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Loneliness is a common human experience that can be felt by anyone, regardless of their relationship status or social life. In this podcast, we will explore the loneliness that can come with being single and the loneliness that can arise when we are working towards our goals and dreams. We will discuss how to cope with loneliness and build meaningful connections with others, even when we feel alone.
With love,
Ruth and Joshua
Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro
01:50 - Marthina’s experience with loneliness
03:30 - Destiny’s experience
05:45 - Ruth’s experience
14:00 - Coping with loneliness as a single person
25:00 - Wilderness or self isolation?
32:00 - Loneliness affecting your mental health?
38:00 - How to practically manage loneliness
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West & Zander
Join us in this episode as we delve deep into the transformative power of forgiveness. Explore Ruth and Marthina's compelling stories and perceptive insights, navigating the complexities and healing potentials of forgiving oneself and others.
Discover practical strategies and the emotional impact of embracing forgiveness on spiritual maturity, relationships, and overall well-being. Whether it's granting or seeking forgiveness, this episode offers a thoughtful exploration into this profound and cathartic human experience in light of the Gospel.
With love,
Ruth and Joshua
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Yearn
West & Zander
Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro
00:40 - What is forgiveness
09:00 - Institutional forgiveness
17:00 - What does it mean to forgive God?
22:00 - Marthina’s landlord situation
27:00 - Forgiving yourself
Apologies for the technical difficulties this week friends! Ruth's mic cut off at around the 32minute mark.
Boundaries are the invisible fences that protect our physical, emotional, and spiritual well-being. They define what we are willing to tolerate and what we are not. In this episode, we welcome back our special guest, Shekinah, and introduce a new voice to the conversation, Marthina.
Join us for a thought-provoking conversation as we delve into the intricate world of boundaries. In this episode, we'll explore the art of setting healthy limits, the challenges of asserting ourselves, and the power of saying no.
With love,
Ruth and Joshua
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00:00 - Intro
01:37 - Let's define 'boundaries'
13:00 - Generational and cultural clashes
25:00 - Navigating having our needs dismissed
40mins - Tips
In today's world of carefully crafted personas and social media facades, authenticity is a rare and precious commodity. In this episode, we delve into the this topic a bit deeper, exploring how these qualities can transform our lives and relationships. Our guest, renowned spoken-word artist, educator, speaker and dear friend, Boaz, shares his insights on the power of being true to ourselves and embracing our imperfections. Join us as we explore the power of authenticity and vulnerability, and how embracing your true self can unlock different aspects of our life including our leadership potential.
With love,
Ruth and Joshua
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Yearn
West & Zander
Season 3 of our emotionally charged series on 'Emotionally Healthy Spirituality' is off to an explosive start with an episode delving into the delicate dance of confrontation. Join us as we unravel the mystery behind a situation that forced Ruth to have a heart-to-heart with Joshua..
But that's not all! Joshua is about to drop a life-changing update that will leave you speechless. Hint: He has a mini-me.. 👶
Get ready for an emotional rollercoaster as we navigate the complexities of confrontation, celebrate life's precious moments, and explore the depths of 'Emotionally Healthy Spirituality.'
With love,
Ruth and Joshua
00:00 - Intro
01:00 - Update
04:15 - The Problem
17:00 - How our Family of origin Affects the Way We Fight
24:30 - Evergreen Highlight: Care-fronting
31:00 - How to fight fair
39:00 - Outro
For the final episode of the season on life post-uni, we sat down with Mr. Rashawn Grant to pick his brains on his musing on the hurried life, recreating generational cycles of hurriedness as children of immigrant parents, failure as a man and so much more. This is perhaps one of our favourite episodes of this season.
If you have any questions for us for the next season on emotional health, feel free to drop us a DM with some topic suggestions and ideas.
We'll see you all in a couple of weeks. Stay blessed!
Ruth and Josh
00:00 - Embarrassing Rashawn with Honour
03:30 - Rashawn is Writing a Book
5:00 - What did young Rashawn need to hear?
9:20 - How do you recover from failure as a man?
15:10 - Finding Contentment in Living Slowly
30:00 - Origins of the Hurried Life
34:52 - Generational Cycles of Hurriedness
40:00 - Have you had the opportunity to tell the adults in your life to rest?
47:00 - Unbelief at the Core of Hurry
50:00 - Let Abba be Abba
53:00 - Who pours into you?
01:01:00 - Closing prayer
01:02:18 - Outro
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Yearn
West & Zander
Hello! We're back for the penultimate episode of the season (eek!). In today's episode, we sat down with the AMAZING Veronia Spaine to learn more about money management, her journey getting debt-free and how to broach the sensitive topic of finances in intimate relationships. This was an incredibly enriching chat for us so we hope you're able to take some gems away!
With love,
Ruth and & Josh
00:00 - DISCLAIMER
00:30 - Intro
01:35 - Veronia’s Story of Being 16K in Debt
05:45 - Childhood Influences on Money Management
08:55 - Tips on How to Pay off Your Overdraft
16:00 -Guarding Against the Idolisation of Money
19:00 - Give What You Are Willing to Gift
22:00 - Money Conversations Whilst Dating
24:00 - Money Management In Marriage
25:00 - Investing Whilst Young
27:00 - ISAs
28:00 - EG Highlight
35:00 - What to do if we don't make much?
45:00 - Money in Marriage
48:00 - Importance of Financial Literacy Amongst Women
59:00 - What does financial independence mean?
01:08:00 - Build healthy habits
Hey guys! We are back with another episode!!
This week Josh returns to sit down with Ruth and discuss the difficulties of changing family dynamics after university.
This episode serves as a precursor to season 3, where we will be exploring ‘Emotionally Healthy Discipleship’ more deeply. But for now sit back and enjoy this week’s episode!
Stay blessed!
Ruth and Josh
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 - Intro
02:15 - Josh Get's Kicked Out of His Room
05:14 - Our Earliest Childhood Memory
08:40 - Our Happiest Childhood Memory
13:30 - Our Saddest Childhood Memory
20:00 - The Importance of Gentle Parenting
24:00 - Family Life Post University
29:00 - Outro
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Yearn
West & Zander
Hi folks!
It's Monday which means another Evergreen episode. We hope you've been enjoying our series on life post-uni. In today's episode, we are joined by an incredibly special guest (and very dear friend of ours), Boaz a.k.a The Mayor of Warwick!
We discuss our spiritual journeys, the importance of fellowship and community during uni, including the pitfalls of Christian fellowships, processing anger towards God and so much more. Give it a listen and let us know what you think.
Stay blessed!
Ruth and Josh
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Intro
01:16 - Boaz's journey to Christ
05:00 - What is deliverance?
06:50 - Road to Damascus
07:30 - Ruth's journey to Christ
14:50 - Kid's have no filter
16:45 - Understanding the Secret Place
18:00 - Ruth’s journey continued
27:00 - Walking hand in hand with those in difficult seasons
33:20 - Men of Valour!!!! EG HIGHLIGHT, SUIIIIIII
37:00 - The importance of male voices in younger men
40:26 - Ruth and Boaz's awkward first encounter
44:00 - The comparison trap
46:00 - University fellowships: the pros and cons
51:00 - The transition from university to work
55:00 - Tips and advice on maintaining your relationship with God post-uni
01:01:00 - EG Highlight 2, communities
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Yearn
West & Zander
Hi guys!
Happy Easter!! HE IS RISENNN, We hope you've managed to reset, reflect and enjoy the long weekend.
In this episode, we discuss all things careers, including our dream jobs as children, navigating closed doors and the pressure to make inauthentic career decisions. We also discuss the importance of diversifying the concept of 'Black Excellence' by exposing ourselves to unconventional stories of career success.
We hope this is particularly beneficial to those in their final stage of university who are navigating making their first career move. Let us know if this resonated with you!
Have an amazing start to the week and stay blessed,
Ruth and Josh!
Timestamps
00:00 - Intro
02:00 - Searching for glory in the field of finance
10:00 - Rejected from dream uni course
16:19 - Navigating the pressure to secure a graduate role after final year
21:00 - Ruth's career journey
30:00 - Rediscovering your "unthought knows"
34:00 - Unconventional stories of 'Black Excellence'
38:00 - Strengthening your 'weak ties'
43:50 - Evergreen Highlight: Career Confident, Vera Okojie
46:00 - The Tyranny of Should
50:45 - Closing
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Yearn
West & Zander
In episode 3 of out 'Life After Uni' series, we are joined by a very special guest, Shekinah, where we discuss the joys and pains of navigating friendship after university.
This one gets quite deep at around the 40 minute mark, so make sure to stick around until then, or even skip to that part now!
Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro
02:00 - What is friendship
05:30 - What have your friendships been like?
18:40 - Experiences with female friendships
25:40 - Male and Female friends
27:30 - Cross gender enrichment
30:30 - The Worlds Worst Question
34:09 - Grey area relationships
36:50 - Male friendships
39:00 - Toxic aspects of friendship
44:00 - Shekinah's Hate club
47:10 - Low maintenance friendship
51:50 - Are you still low maintenance in romantic relationships
01:03:00 - In what ways have you been a bad friend
01:12:00 - Speak to yourself as you speak to your friends
01:14:50 - Evergreen Highlight & Closing
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West & Zander
Hey guys! Welcoming back to the second episode of the season where we discuss our experiences navigating the "dating jungle" also affectionately known as the "streets."
Dating post-uni is a slightly different game to what it was during university. In this episode, we discuss everything from our experiences (or lack thereof) dating, the importance of emotional integrity, ways in which we can be responsible for our own involuntary singleness, remaining open and the difference between compromising and settling.
This is an interesting episode and one we're confident you'll be able to relate to. If you have any dating horror stories or any tips on navigating how to date post-uni, feel free to share them with us and The Evergreen community.
Have a blessed week!
Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro
01:08 - Ruth's scary story 1
05:30 - Ruth’s scary story 2
08:00 - Good moving story
11:20 - Feeling undesired
14:00 - Lack of dating experience in younger years
18:30 - Josh’s experience
22:00 - care that you’re talking to someone vs the actual person you’re talking to
26:00 - Josh knows why the saints are single
32:40 - Emotional integrity
37:30 - Mandem you would be surprised
40:50 - Dating post-uni
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Yearn
West & Zander
Hey guys! We’re finally back and raring to go with season 2 of The Evergreen Podcast. For the first episode of season two, we brought on Abaka Debrah - talented wordsmith, writer, and source of wise counsel, laughter and friendship to many to help us kick off the season.
Listen in as we discuss what it means to live in a constant state of 2am dreams, our experiences with failure and we got to find out more about Abaka’s journey as a spoken word artist.
Sit back, relax and enjoy!
Timestamps:
00:00-02:30 - A warm Introduction to our first EVER guest on the Podcast, Abaka Debrah
02:30-04:04 - Introduction
4:05-6:00 - Evergreen highlight
6:30-13:00 What is the 2am state?
13:30 - 17:00 - Abaka's spoken word journey
17:00 - Abaka's experience with nerves and shyness
20:00 - 25:00 - Reasons we're afraid to fail
25:30 - 28:30- What 2am dreams are you still sleeping on?
28:50 - 31:30- Being paralysed by analysis
31:30 - 34:30 - A CV of failures
34:30 - Abaka’s biggest lesson on failure & closing
Don’t forget to check out Abaka’s work:
Follow him on Instagram @abakadebrah
Sign-up to his fantastic blog “As I Grow Older” - https://abakadebrah.substack.com
For bookings/enquiries, please email: kabakadebrah@gmail.com
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West & Zander
Happy Monday Folks! To wrap up Season 1, we'll be answering a question from a lovely listener asking for advice on how to encourage their friend who is consistently producing 'bad' art. What a dilemma! In this episode we explored some of the weaknesses of "Christian" art and artists, the inevitability of starting off imperfectly, being your brothers keeper as a creative and the strengths and weaknesses of The Evergreen Podcast. This is a hefty but thought-provoking episode - we hope you're able to take some gems away. Sit back, relax and enjoy the FINAL episode of the season! 🎉
We'll be back in March with Season 2 to discuss 'Life Post-Uni.' Drop us a DM to let us know who you'd like to appear on the podcast and what topics you would like us to discuss.
Have a blessed start to the week and don’t forget to LIKE, COMMENT, SHARE and SUBSCRIBE!
Timestamps
00:00 - How to deal with bad art?
00:44 - Intro
02:08 - Be okay with starting bad
04:00 - A lack of quality could be due to a lack of resource
05:05 - Taking responsibility for the expression of your art
09:05 - The Holy Spirit does not compensate for a lack of discipline
11:05 - Do Christians lack the subtly of Christ?
13:00 - Show don’t tell
15:40 - The medium is part of the the message
17:50 - The Heart of the Creator: Give people hunting license
21:00 - Shrooms for Jesus?
23:30 - Montell Fish: Exercising creative liberty, or ruining your witness?
26:50 - How to give advice to a friend
31:50 - The Heart of the Feedback Giver: Be good at noticing good things
36:30 - Little Black Book example
38:30 - Outro
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Yearn
West & Zander
Gold Digger
Kanye West ft. Jaimee Foxx
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In this weeks episode Ruth & I explore 3 very weighty questions 1) what are our thoughts on deconstruction 2) how to read for transformation and 3) how to develop patience in life.
Timestamps
00:00 - Intro
01:05 - Q1: Thoughts on deconstruction
04:25 - How different cultures worship differently
10:10 - Diversity is not a result of the fall!
13:13 - Evergreen Highlight: Dr Vince Bantu
16:30 - West African christians during King Mansa Musa’s reign
22:00 - Summary
28:30 - Q2: How to read for transformation.
29:00 - Introducing the Evergreen Reading System
29:30 Preliminary steps
- Let your primary reading be scripture
- Resolve to read good books multiple times
32:10 - Step 1: Prime your mind to find gold
Questions - why am I reading this? what stage of life am I at, what am I trying to gain from it?
33:43 - Step 2: Take Evergreen Notes.
- At the back of the book. Or in a separate note book.
- Page number
- A quote that captures the thrust of what the author was saying OR An interesting question which will prompt your memory when you return to the book in the future.
35:30 - The Meaning of Marriage example
40:15 - Step 3: Synthesis as you read.
42:30 - Ruths reading tips
46:00 - Q3: How to develop patience in life.
56:40 - Clarifying what we mean by ‘promises’
59:00 - Practical tips
01:01:00 - Consider the nature of Christian growth
01:01:40 - There’s a burden attached to your goals
1:02:00 - Closing
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“There is a kind of person who seems - at first glance - to benefit from an admirable degree of self-motivation, thoroughness and drive. They are up at dawn, they rarely take holidays, they are always sneaking in an extra hour or two of work. Their bosses are highly impressed, they are constantly promoted and their grades have constantly been excellent since primary school. We might anoint them with the word ‘perfectionism.’” - The School of Life
On episode 6 of The Evergreen Podcast, Ruth and Josh shed light on the experience with perfectionism as it's infiltrated relational dynamics, starting creative ventures and their spiritual walks. The hosts propose the view that perfectionism is more a vice than a virtue which avert our eyes from the One who is perfect. Whilst high goals and ambitions are noble and integral to human flourishing, there can also come a point where these goals can be sources of crippling and unnecessary anxiety manifest as procrastination, inauthenticity, and inertia.
We hope that this episode inspires you to focus on progress not perfection.
Have a blessed start to the week!
Timestamps:
00:00 - Story time Josh’s recent embarrassing moment
01:53 - Intro
02:30 - Perfectionism as a sickness
05:14 - Josh went to fat camp
06:30 - Humility as self-forgetfulness
08:00 - Golden child syndrome
12:48 - “Be perfect as I am perfect.” How sway?
18:50 - Scripture’s reveal stumbling saints
21:30 - Kintsugi pottery
22:30 - Processing perfectionism with regards to Evergreen
26:15 - Long game approach
27:00 - Blindspots
29:00 - Josh’s tales of discouragement
30:15 - Procrastination as an attempt to avoid emotional pain
31:20 - Taking thoughts captive / Personal CBT
32:20 - Outtro
Talking points:
- Getting over embarrassment
- Dealing with ‘Golden Child Syndrome’ (Ruth not Josh at best I was the silver child)
- Embracing our limitations as a human
- How to be self forgetful
- Kintsugi Pottery
- Elijah-esc tales of discouragement
- Christ’s perfection covers us
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West & Zander
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In today's episode, we discuss 'invisibility.' With the Prosperity Gospel becoming mainstream conversations such as becoming “the best you,” “living your best life,” “self-actualisation,” and “finding your destiny,” have become incredibly hot topics. Due to this, our eyes have become locked on our outward lives; we inevitably assess our growth by the successes of our circumstances.
We discuss our experiences of being invisible in both creative and personal spaces. We also define what it means to be 'invisible,' highlight some of the benefits of being hidden and how fear can prevent us from showing up when we're needed the most. We also acknowledge the need for creatives to be visible and suggest ways they can best navigate this.
This may be one of our favourite episodes from the season so get ready for a vulnerable, and open chat, mixed with surprising anecdotes from the pair.
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Yearn
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In this weeks episode we explore themes in Curt Thompson's book 'The Soul of Shame'. We focus specifically on how shame can hinder creativity, especially when used as a motivator by those in positions of authority i.e. teachers. Let us know your thoughts surrounding the topic of shame in the comment section below!
Timestamps:
00:00 - Welcome & Intro
00:53 - The Soul of shame
03:30 - Shame as a motivator
09:50 - Feelings of inadequacy
12:50 - Cognitive distortions
13:50 - Catastrophising
16:45 - Question your questions
17:50 - Shame & insecurity in successful people
20:20 - Post traumatic growth
23:40 - Neuroplastic reinforcement
24:30 - How Christ redeems our shame
27:07 - Outro
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Rest is a necessity for all, but is elusive for many. Join us in Episode 3 of the Evergreen Podcast as we talk through our struggles and successes with finding true rest for the soul.
Timestamps
00:00 - Welcome & Intro
01:48 - What is the Sabbath
02:48 - Origins of the Sabbath.
08:17 - Ruth’s Childhood experience of the Sabbath.
12:40 - The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry
16:15 - Your soul needs rest
18:20 - The none of yoke of Christ
20:46 - The life saving yoke of Christ
21:30 - How we build rest into The Evergreen Podcast
23:00 - The French Revolution
26:00 - Why we struggle to rest
31:30 - Sabbath as a fight for delight
34:00 - Prayer during dryness
35:00 - Sleep as spiritual discipline
39:00 - 10 Best practices for engaging with the Sabbath
41:30 - Outro
In this episode we explore how embracing our role as a maker in this world can help us to become more loving and effective in our everyday lives.
Timestamps: 00:00 - Welcome & Intro 02:45 - Ruth's academic journey 06:00 - Josh's clearing nightmare 11:40 - Siblings as graces of sanctification 17:00 - Vocational creativity in the work place 23:30 - The necessity of innovation in the workplace - Study 24:42 - The Medichi Effect 27:35 - How God creatively wins wars 30:40 - Reframing the way we view the margins 33:00 - God is working with you 35:00 - Tap into the riches of the faith 37:30 - Outro
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“There is no doubt that creativity is the most important human resource of all. Without creativity, there would be no progress, and we would be forever repeating the same patterns,” Edward de Bono
Conversations on creativity have exploded in the last decades. It has been recognised as has been recognized as one of the most important “twentieth century skills,” shaping everything from corporate spaces, educational policy and practice and, much more! Listen as we discuss what it means to be creatives as image bearers of God.
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