SubRant: Recent Episodes

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Houses and 'Performance Art' suck but dogs are awesome

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• The house falls apart
• Good vs bad home inspectors
• Marina Abramovic
• Performance art is... not art
• Barry Lyndon vs Ferris Bueller's Day Off
• Free Hug Bear
• Polluting the store with AI nonsense
• Will AI destroy the world?
• The tragic story of Sam Altman
• Did the internet exist before the smartphone?
• Dogs make life better
• X's brand assests live on... Twitter.com
• Apple invented USB-C

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Stolen, painted over, and exploited: the many horrible lives of modern 'art'

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• Stealing art? Why bother?
• Ruthless People
• Judge Reinhold
• The Parsonage Garden at Nuenen in Spring
• Arthur Brand - the "Indiana Jones of the art world"
• Indiana Jones is a thief
• Drug smuggler steals art to reduce sentence
• Sex, three times a week!
• James, the art thief
• King not Ing
• This is the whole show
• Jens Haaning
• Take the money and run, literally...
• "Almost as embarrassing as The Orlando Museum of Art"
• The "Art" of North West
• My only hope is that no one knows who North West is
• Sylvestor Stallone paints
• Thrift Store Ghost Painting
• Ghosts on everything
• Is A.I. writing the article?

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Muddy Hippies, the true origin of "Prompt Engineer", and ridiculous rich white men

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• X - the most powerful letter...
• Burning Man
• What should a modern Hippie drive?
• "Nordstrom was in my soul"
• "Where does the water come from?"
• "Goodwill for bikes"
• Offer-Up sucks
• Fakesquiat t-shirts
• The Lexus of fakes
• Scion xB
• Trump mug shot = Zoolander
• Trump took the cookies
• X is useless
• "Twatter"
• "You need better notes"
• Elon Musk = Howard Hughes
• S3XY
• He's bad at jokes
• Prompt Engineer
• Large Language Model explained
• Reddit explained
• Adversarial prompting
• SubRant gets spiritual
• Anyway...

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Catherine and James put Florida art museums and wannabe politicians in time-out

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• Vivek Ramaswamy is an asshole
• Orlando Museum of Art is on probation
• Aaron De Groft
• Dinosaurs aren't real
• Mitch McConnell freeze
• Age limits?
• Lock em up! (Catherine's chihuahuas)
• Fakesquiat with BTS
• "You're a puddle"
• Elle Cordova
• "So much stupid online"
• Catherine has a negative attitude towards negative people
• Drennon Davis and his cats
• "Can't trust the art world"
• Catherine is addicted to Pumpkin Spice Latte...
• Vegan pancakes at The Coronado
• Toast

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SubRant disembowels an article about an unfinished Klimt and James goes on vacation

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• Catherine's bathroom woes continue
• "Post mid-century design aesthetic"?
• James explains art pricing
• Cabin fever in Phoenix
• James was attacked by the idea of being attacked by a bear and it ruined his vacation
• "Tourons" - moronic tourists blocking traffic to look at the ugly bison
• Bison are, in fact, mangy mutated cows (and I don't like cows)
• A short story of James being the responsible one
• Glacier National Park is best
• Klimt's "Lady with a fan" sells for stupid amount
• What actual Klimt paintings look like: WikiArt and ArtViewer
• The Japanese influence on Post Impressionism
• Chance the dog begins to cough because Catherine is painting (nail polish) in the house and poisoning everyone
• "Stylized elsewhere"
• Let's sell some Faquiats
• Martin Mull's renegade art show
• Nail polish removal process is too much for James

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A new show for a dead artist, art vandals go to Vatican jail, and Apple reinvents Virtual Reality. Oh, and circular economies.

SHOW NOTES

• Catherine is excited about a NEW Basquiat show, but James is not
• More Fakesquiats
• "A myth building exercise"
• James identifies that he is, in fact, an asshole
• Art hooligans / environmental activists go to Vatican jail
• James breaks down the Apple Vision Pro (definitely not a VR headset)
• Catherine is desperate to be part of the circular economy, but James keeps her straight
• "Circularity is the hottest topic in the fashion industry right now"
• iPhones are already circular, they never go to the landfill
• Catherine's mother doesn't do recycled bricks
• Recycling news is what we do

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Prom wear, vomiting Keurigs, Brutalist 'art', and the questionable artistic judgement of the Supreme Court

SHOW NOTES

• 00:20 - In sync and slacking!
• 02:40 - Local suit maker saves the day!
• 03:35 - Graduate, and graduate again
• 05:45 - Prepping for Yellowstone
• 06:05 - Bathroom beat goes on
• 07:00 - cannabis and basil plants equally doomed under Catherine's care
• 10:05 - Brutalist art find in backyard barn
• 11:30 - Milk glass and Phoenix Lamps
• 12:04 - Brutalist "art" is a stretch
• 13:55 - Possibly Marcello Fantoni?
• 14:35 - Brass, bronze, steel, who knows
• 17:08 - Just clobber me with basic form
• 19:20 - Brutalist pieces will survive!
• 21:15 - Keurig catastrophe
• 23:00 - Feeling guarana
• 24:45 - Non sentient AI: Tool or threat?
• 25:45 - Warhol not transformative!
• 27:55 - Should judges "judge" art?
• 30:20 - A derivative slippery slope
• 31:10 - Siding with Warhol in a "bathtub full of bland"
• 32:20 - Just use Midjourney
• 34:14 - It's all derivative

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Even with no f***s to give, James and Catherine fill 38 minutes with movies and mummies before pondering humanity's precipice and agreeing that most art (other than "Jaws" props) is disposable.

SHOW NOTES

• 00:12 - Catherine is finally on mic
• 00:48 - Good sleep yields not giving a f***
• 01:45 - Know your puppy limitations
• 03:25 - Sinking the coffee cup
• 04:35 - Have we got Ancient Egypt's mummies all wrong? (No)
• 05:30 - The perfect movie!
• 07:15 - Skimming the sarcophagus
• 08:30 - Fayium (portrait) vs faience (glaze technique)
• 10:10 - Remnants of a Roman Egypt
• 11:06 - Difference is... mummies are real
• 12:32 - Unwrapping colonial entitlement
• 15:00 - Art, anthropology, or morbid fascination?
• 16:25 - Humanity's eve of destruction? The Precipice: existential risk and the future of humanity - Toby Ord
• 21:35 - Ancient alien afterlife destruction?
• 22:40 - Ancient Egyptian Instagram Influencers
• 24:15 - Inherent Vice: What to do with Decaying Masterpiece?
• 25:00 - Miami Vice fashion rant
• 28:28 - Naum Gabo: "If it's gone it's gone"
• 29:30 - Artwork will eventually fail, so throw it out!
• 31:00 - Use of dead animals, chocolate and lard is not super edgy but is dumb and or, gross
• 32:25 - Recalling ASU's "Vague Art Show" and ditching painting at RISD
• 35:44 - Hirst "props" can't touch "Jaws"
• 37:00 - "Jaws" the musical
• 38:05 - Back to the garbage heap!

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James and Catherine dip their toes into hope before tackling plagiarism vs appropriation in pop-art

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• 00:30 - Hope and bikes on the ceiling
• 02:30 - Ghosted by a chihuahua
• 04:15 - It's gonna take years!
• 05:00 - Normal American hoarder?
• 07:00 - No boxes from Temu!
• 08:40 - James debunks a dog harness
• 10:20 - Instagram algorithm whiners
• 12:45 - More whining about Lichtenstein 'It's called stealing': new allegations of plagiarism against Roy Lichtenstein
• 13:54 - Seeing the "Ben-Day" dots
• 15:00 - Disposable illustration, pop-art
• 16:00 - "It's called stealing", said Hy Eisman, but James has a different take!
• 18:00 - Appropriation vs plagiarism
• 20:29 - Seeing "BLAM"!
• 21:25 - American Art Industrial Complex squashes comic collage
• 23:18 - Isn't art disposable?
• 26:15 - Chinese website snatched James' image and used it for a logo!
• 29:21 - "WHAAM! BLAM! Roy Lichtenstein And The Art Of Appropriation" documentary
• 31:10 - AI similarities?
• 32:21 - Intellectually interesting, but not analogous
• 33:27 - Lichtenstein IS pop-art, Warhol isn't
• 34:16 - Not a transformative soup can, but good enough to steal!
• 35:24 - "Come play with us forever"

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SubRant touches on 3-D printers and lauds Chewy before breaking down the rise of Chinese apps, fear of a marble penis and “loving them some Google”.

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• 00:01 - “Zoom hates me”
• 01:13 - Multiple states of disarray
• 02:45 - Metal mushrooms & 3-D printers
• 03:00 - Better call Chewy! https://www.chewy.com
• 03:10 - Dara Starr Tucker feeds cats https://www.tiktok.com/@darastarrtucker/video/7215400337438543146
• 05:29 - Buying a 3-D printer tips!
• 08:00 - Hooked on Chinese apps https://www.axios.com/2023/03/27/americans-hooked-on-chinese-apps
• 08:29 - Temu “haul” https://www.temu.com
• 10:00 - More socks and dog harnesses!
• 11:05 - James ruins Catherine’s day
• 12:07 - American tech dulling us down?
• 13:15 - TikTok attack!
• 14:55 - Stupid folks saying hateful things
• 15:25 - Everyone hates JK Rowling?
• 17:05 - Mainstreaming vitriol
• 17:25 - Contemplating Tennessee
• 18:40 - “John McCain Party” is dead
• 19:30 - More bad news from Florida: Italian art experts astonished by David statue uproar in Florida https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65087218
• 20:50 - Defining pornography, duh!
• 21:25 - “David” takeaways
• 22:40 - Deconstructing the ding-dong
• 23:37 - “Tyranny of the minority”
• 24:30 - Section-off the “wacky”, please!
• 26:40 - Good luck re-investing in a loser!
• 27:04 - “I wish you well”, Gwyneth Paltrow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov-FGOPxqcY
• 27:59 - Gen Z loves them some Google https://www.axios.com/2023/04/04/gen-z-jobs-employers-google-tesla-patagonia
• 29:30 - NASA or Disney more interesting!
• 31:00 - Follow up on “Fake-squiat”
• 33:10 - Insta-spam!
• 35:00 - Cleo, unleashed!
• 35:55 - Riding on the Metro!

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SubRant discusses aliens, Valley Metro Lite Rail, public art and real estate with realtor Andrew Richwine

• 00:07 - "We do aliens"
• 00:30 - Welcome Andrew Richwine, Realtor, The Tribe - Keller Williams
• 01:45 - Andrew's story
• 03:40 - Green energy AND Lite Rail can move 1500 people every 3 minutes!
• 06:30 - Valley Metro App
• 09:22 - Lite Rail expansion projects and memories of Metro Center
• 13:45 - Biking from Phoenix to Tempe!
• 15:10 - Bad "flips" and "Where B&B?"
• 19:25 - Worst client? We don't do those.
• 23:00 - Preparing for a listing
• 26:05 - Photographing your old house
• 31:00 - Tribe Takeover and gimbal gaff!
• 32:40 - SubRant Podcast is persistent
• 37:22 - Lite Rail art installations
• 43:00 - Rail connections = community connections
• 45:05 - Keeping community businesses afloat
• 47:55 - Comic book stores, sewing machines, enlightenment, and sleep
• 52:00 - Lite Rail "honor system"
• 54:10 - First Friday is still happening?
• 55:40 - Songbird Coffee House
• 56:50 - Favorite art spaces 1 & 2
• 57:50 - Buying houses near the lite rail
• 01:01:36 - Photo vampire needed

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SubRant co-hosts get no credit for coining AI job title, so they defined "sweeping the floor" while reveling in the shards of a Balloon Dog.

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• 00:20 - SubRant (kinda) said it first
• 00:40 - Groot sucks
• 02:30 - Prompt Engineer?
• 04:17 - A totally unbiased review of Microsoft certifications
• 05:30 - Dissecting a "high-leverage skill"
• 06:15 - Is this the job of the future?
• 07:15 - SubRant abandons all hope?
• 09:40 - Prompts available!
• 10:30 - James has sci-fi panel rant
• 12:00 - Human to human, AI is AI
• 13:08 - Return to NFT
• 14:14 - Startup + day trading + NFTs = 🤮
• 15:05 - "Sweeping the floor" defined
• 16:51 - TLDR: Avoid NFTs
• 17:15 - Jeff Koons: Visitor Breaks Iconic Balloon Dog "Sculpture" in Miami
• 17:45 - Touch it, don't touch it!
• 19:18 - Puppy down
• 20:35 - Just buy it at Neiman Macros
• 21:15 - Isn't all performance art an accident?
• 21:35 - Stupid shard story!
• 23:10 - Million-plus dollar rabbit
• 24:15 - Kinkade the crap out of it
• 24:55 - James is the star
• 26:45 - Nod to "Shitty Craft Club"
• 27:02 - "Don't Groot me!"

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SHOW THEMEThis week on SubRant we question copyright law, search for Banksy's missing freezer, and go to war over a Super Bowl ad.

SHOW NOTES * 00:15 - Catherine gets "topic ambushed"!

• 00:35 - Hypothetical: Copyright "all or nothing"

• 06:01 - Voting for a shorter copyright timeframe!

• 07:00 - Can't remake "Babylon 5", so watch "The Expanse"

• 07:30 - "Great ideas just go off and die because big corporations hold the copyright."

• 07:50 - Chihuahua update: 10 pounds!

• 08:45 - "Valentines Day Mascara"

• 09:30 - Banksy website image

• 10:00 - The freezer was removed! Twice!

• 11:15 - Leave street art and Valentines Day alone!

• 13:15 - Cats, dogs, and "Velcro"

• 14:05 - Super Bowl depression

• 15:35 - James cinched win for Chiefs!

• 15:58 - The divisive Jesus commercial

• 16:40 - Catherine prefers beer commercials

• 17:30 - Responding to confrontational imagery

• 17:42 - "Human" (Rag n Bone Man)

• 18:03 - "Jesus loves the people you hate"

• 19:15 - Both sides of the aisle lost their minds!

• 20:43 - "He Gets Us" has an agenda!

• 23:30 - James defines fascism

• 24:40 - Two fascist households

• 26:00 - No time for the twisted

• 27:35 - Just take a nice message at "face value"

• 29:00 - A "bad take" or calling out a "slippery slope"?

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SHOW THEMEJames and Catherine reconvene to ponder Twitter, fawn over vintage Legos, and marvel at 3-D printers while saving the planet using freeze dried coffee.

SHOW NOTES - 00:20 - Plaything formerly known as Twitter

• 00:50 - Hello Mastodon!

• 01:45 - Algorithms are (21st century) life

• 02:30 - Lego redux and 3-D printers

• 03:35 - Fancy hot glue gun (AKA 3-D printer)

• 07:25 - Paraglider drops in, smashes house

• 10:50 - Coffee is ruining the earth

• 12:28 - Lifecycle of a coffee bean

• 15:40 - Landfills are for sequestering

• 17:55 - "Dose" is key and freeze-dried wins!

• 19:20 - James saves the environment, one cup of Keurig at a time!

• 21:55 - How about just drinking less coffee?

• 22:28 - Gas stoves fuel culture war

• 24:00 - Most of Florida passes (on) gas

• 25:05 - Induction is magic!

• 25:45 - The Nigerian AI artist reimagining a stylish old age

• 26:30 - "Fashion Show For Seniors" via AI

• 27:30 - Finally, the fingers look like fingers!

• 28:25 - AI comes through (again) as creative tool!

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Twitter’s “Meltdown” sets a festive mood as our SubRant co-hosts continue their AI deep-dive via ArtStation protests and opt-out image training before going to war over Christmas!

Show Notes

00:05 - Moods and (tile) meltdowns

01:15 - The “bots” have spoken!

02:15 - “Are we having free speech yet?”

02:45 - Dear Elon, links are the web…

03:15- Just dial “1-900-Twitter”

04:35 - A CEO fall-guy?

06:10 - Tesla, SpaceEx, Star Link

07:18 - NFT’s are flying off the shelves!

08:45 - It’s only a head-shot!

10:45 - Real tough guys wear Aviator glasses

12:15 - Drive-by Vegan burger

12:50 - Artists Protest After ArtStation Features AI-Generated Images https://www.kotaku.com.au/2022/12/artists-protest-after-artstation-features-ai-generated-images/

13:45 - “Explore” the flood-plain

14:05 - Artstation Website https://www.artstation.com/?sort_by=community

14:55 - Your lane is over there!

15:10 - Art station makes it worse? https://www.kotaku.com.au/2022/12/artstation-responds-to-ai-controversy-makes-things-worse/

16:05 - Opt-out, opt-in?

16:30 - Issues, issues, issues https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/12/stability-ai-plans-to-let-artists-opt-out-of-stable-diffusion-3-image-trainxxing/

18:17 - Was it doxing?

20:18 - “We’re all re-compilers!”

21:12 - What’s your definition of free speech?

22:43 - Christmas soap opera

22:59 - Riffusion’s AI generates music from text using visual sonograms https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/12/riffusions-ai-generates-music-from-text-using-visual-sonograms/

24:26 - Six prompts yield similar results, all bad

25:04 - “Gayatri Mantra” AI-style

25:57 - “One Minute After New Year’s Eve”

26:22 - Battlestar Galactica finale disconnect

27:31 - Costco membership woes? https://www.thestreet.com/retailers/costco-plans-to-raise-its-membership-prices

28:30 - Christmas every 4 years? NOPE

29:00 - Blame SubRant!

29:50 - Durable Medical Equipment Festivities

30:00 - Wrapping dog presents!

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SHOW THEMESubRant cohosts touch on eyeballs and pie while drafting their own conspiracy theories and pondering the place of AI in art history.

SHOW NOTES - 00:15 - Cream pie and a left eye

• 01:15 - No turkey, no salmon!

• 02:30 - Sweet words at Thanksgiving

• 03:25 - Uncles and conspiracies

• 05:05 - Crazy takes a "right"?

• 06:18 - Twitter chugs along

• 06:55 - Swastikas are not in vogue

• 08:00 - James unveils a conspiracy theory!

• 08:45 - How Is AI Changing Art History?

• 09:55 - Up in arms about detachment

• 11:00 - Directing AI or minions, what's the difference?

• 13:15 - Circuitous discourse on historical bias

• 14:00 - Modern Dream: How Refik Anadol Is Using Machine Learning and NFTs to Interpret MoMA's Collection

• 15:08 - Hold the hallucinations!

• 16:05 - Are we all just machines?

• 18:50 - "I see cubism"

• 19:50 - No talk of the show disappoints

• 21:30 - All ones and zeroes are the same

• 22:30 - Digital vs Physical

• 24:00 - The art of James

• 26:00 - Connection without nostalgia

• 27:45 - Mash-ups create new ideas

• 28:30 - AI is part of art history

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SHOW THEME The "Second Annual Thanksgiving Show" where James and Catherine exude more delight for a Western image of China than for the holiday while pondering the benefits of video games.

SHOW NOTES - 00:20 - We are Thanksgiving-holes!

• 01:35 - Costco unhinged over missing turkeys

• 02:30 - No chickens, eggs, or parking rant!

• 05:10 - Anything important already happened

• 05:55 - Missing Oreos

• 06:55 - Drop-bars, drop-bars everywhere

• 07:35 - FIFA shit show, Twitter meltdown

• 08:00 - It's also a gaming franchise!

• 08:40 - "If you want to play soccer, just go outside!"

• 09:00 - Gaming friendships

• 10:45 - Guy talk: weddings and kids?

• 12:00 - They came to his wedding!

• 12:50 - "Bit of stick" explained

• 14:10 - The begging billionaire list

• 16:00 - Smart but not so savvy?

• 17:30 - The "Twitter tone"

• 18:20 - Polling cop-out, still no landslide!

• 19:35 - Burning down the wealth

• 21:00 - Jung Kook at World Cup

• 21:30 - Playing lots of video games may benefit kids' brains

• 22:15 - Surgeons who game get good results

• 23:10 - Jen hides from the aliens!

• 22:20 - More research needed

• 25:00 - Strife, violence, and Marvel

• 25:30 - Finally some art to ponder!

• 27:00 - "This isn't China", it's how we see China

• 28:10 - Dior calligraphy

• 29:00 - "Fashion is art"

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SHOW THEME James and Catherine view a Christie's art auction and the banning of E-bikes through the lens of classism, while questioning the goals of AI

SHOW NOTES - 02:10 - James and the GIANT bike!

• 03:00 - Finally, a good Oreo cookie?

• 04:55 - Update: Christie's auction

• 07:00 - "They were all bangers"

• 07:30 - Thought we banned "art-speak"

• 07:55 - Through the lens of classism

• 09:00 - Swollen lithium batteries = havoc

• 11:20 - Bent iPhone battery ignites!

• 12:52 - "Lithium likes to burn a lot"

• 13:34 - Lovingly roasting Samsung

• 15:45 - James solves E-bike storage issue

• 16:50 - PSA: Risky in-app browsers

• 18:20 - inappbrowser.com

• 18:50 - Just stop clicking on ad links

• 20:45 - Crypto setback, so wait 5 years

• 21:55 - What's the AI goal?

• 23:00 - Triggered by ultrasound AI

• 23:45 - Judy Schweibert won & AZ midterm update

• 26:30 - Where are the visionaries?

• 27:05 - AI steamrolls, but who sets standards?

• 29:00 - James predicts break-through tech

• 29:55 - Runway re-run (next episode)

• 31:00 - Blown away (in a good way)

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SHOW THEME James and Catherine unload on new phones, hyperlink irritants, and copyright restrictions before uncovering a tsunami of AI image generator talent

SHOW NOTES - 00:03 - Late (again) for Halloween

• 00:35 - Old people get new phones

• 01:40 - Hell is in the link

• 03:10 - "Free your Apple news"

• 04:20 - Chihuahua eats AI "homework"

• 05:55 - James dabbles and hits gold!

• 07:30 - AI vs. living artists

• 09:15 - Copyright doesn't protect your vibe

• 10:08 - "Always room for robots!"

• 12:20 - Are they coming for all of our jobs?

• 12:58 - Copyright primer

• 14:45 - Is there protection for AI art?

• 16:00 - Legal vs. moral, plus trademark

• 17:40 - AI advancement moving fast!

• 18:20 - Removing references to living artists makes it harder (but not really)

• 19:50 - The value of knowing

• 21:45 - How Much "Art" Can There Be In Artificial Intelligence?

• 22:52 - Second place winner speaks out

• 24:24 - Who really owns the creative output?

• 25:40 - Save time, just draw it!

• 26:05 - AI selfie filter fail

• 26:50 - "Draw Anyone" (with three arms?)

• 28:15 - Backwards AI gets snarky!

• 28:42 - Selfie roast

• 30:55 - Spicing up a "too nice" internet?

• 31:27 - James appeals to human kindness, then recants

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SHOW THEME Catherine and James riff on Cezanne, plead for curatorial intelligence, and dismiss "Process Art"

SHOW NOTES - 00:10 - No disarray here!

• 01:05 - "Kay-enne" got too hot for Adidas

• 02:20 - Flat Earth AI Zombies push a button

• 04:24 - James is a bit of a troll

• 05:24 - "Wait! We get a lot of hate?"

• 06:35 - SubRant t-shirts not disappointing

• 08:00 - We see, therefore, Cezanne

• 10:05 - Static, roving, is it that deep?

• 11:00 - Teardown of the stare-down

• 12:41 - Impressionism interrupted

• 14:00 - Plea for curatorial common sense

• 15:30 - From Impressionism to Midwifery

• 16:10 - Addressing Western-centrism

• 18:00 - Distortion and evisceration gone wild

• 18:35 - "Cezanne, I'm glad he did it!"

• 19:40 - Imagining Cezanne's process-timeline

• 20:40 - Process + end product = art?

• 22:00 - Thinking of Da Vinci

• 23:05 - "The work is the art. and everything else is a prelude"

• 24:00 - If the "process" is also art, how does this apply to AI generated images?

• 24:30 - Stay tuned for more AI

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SHOW THEME Catherine and James laud a MET facade, but trash "art speak", selling dead people's collections, cold soup, and burning ‘art'.

SHOW NOTES - 00:03 - "Constant state of bicycle shopping"

• 01:47 - James is "The Surly Straggler"

• 03:05 - Ding your bell, it's "Biking Story-time!"

• 04:06 - Good morning, or not!

• 05:00 - James freaks out road bikers

• 05:45 - Walking into walls & delayed synaptic response

• 06:27 - MET public art (not MOMA)

• 08:40 - "Gilt & Guilt" or "Ownership & Superficiality"?

• 10:15 - Artist's words versus "art-speak"

• 11:09 - James bans "curatorial studies"

• 12:17 - Appreciating a facade (on a facade)

• 12:30 - The power of Paul Allen

• 13:26 - "So, regular people can't buy art?"

• 15:30 - "Norm" or not, just buy what you like!

• 16:48 - Back to the museums to raise value!

• 19:00 - Van Gogh plus soup is good art

• 19:15 - SubRant Throwback

• 19:35 - "Just Stop Oil" (painting)

• 21:00 - Gone haywire on "The Haywain"

• 24:50 - Hirst kicks off his own "Burning Man"

• 26:30 - "The Haunting of Word Soup"

• 29:03 - SubRant Throwback (Koons)

• 29:08 - Nod to DeGrazia'z taxation protest

• 31:10 - Maximize that carbon footprint!

• 33:15 - Dust in the wind

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SHOW THEME James and Catherine "nerd rant" about tech platforms, Minotaur teeth, and the curious trend of whole house doodling.

SHOW NOTES - 00:05 - "Old people don"t need new phones"

• 00:20 - "Prey" panoramic followup

• 02:00 - 300 year evolution of "The Predator"

• 03:05 - Hollywood butchers technology

• 04:20 - James repos quote, shoves Plato off cliff

• 05:05 - Google nerd-rant - Stadia: DONE

• 07:00 - Treading water with Search and Mail

• 09:30 - Hey YouTube, remember Flickr?

• 10:27 - Silly Google, Docs is for kids!

• 11:00 - Lame VR and the developers who won't use it

• 12:00 - Instagram hack!

• 13:07 - Secure your passwords and don"t use Facebook log-in

• 14:35 - "Mr. Doodle does" wall drawings!

• 15:18 - Gettin a superficial Haring vibe

• 16:45 - Buys house and doodles it!

• 17:13 - "Graffiti Spaghetti" for lunch?

• 18:15 - Do doodles need color?

• 19:30 - Mr. Doodle freestyle

• 20:22 - Revisiting Polina Rayko, self-taught Ukrainian artist

• 22:36 - James is a doodler

• 23:10 - Ron's House: Minotaur Head And Lion Is Discovered In Rented Birkenhead Flat

• 24:45 - Nerds contemplate minotaur teeth and other points of fiction

• 26:25 - Put some effort into your art!

• 29:40 - "They always go for the ceilings"

• 30:50 - Doodle camouflage

• 31:13 - Halloween t-shirt plug!

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SHOW THEME Catherine and James waffle on selling their cars while dissecting potential changes to S. Korean net neutrality and crowning RM as the best art critic!

SHOW NOTES - 00:05 - Selling our cars?

• 02:35 - Forget new tires, just buy a new car!

• 04:10 - Hybrid Maverick: The "exciting" choice

• 07:10 - The biggest issue of the week! (Or not)

• 07:35 - James explains net neutrality and data access fees

• 08:55 - No more "Baby Shark or BTS" scares Catherine

• 09:30 - S. Korean ISPs want to charge more, James breaks it down!

• 12:12 - Just don't interrupt Catherine's Korean content!

• 14:00 - James calls out a "dick move" and rights a "slippery slope"

• 15:35 - "The world is coming to an end and we're all going to be isolated"

• 16:45 - A usage fee bill from Argentina?

• 18:00 - SubRant saves the Internet!

• 18:58 - Appeal to S. Korean legislators to not mess with success!

• 19:50 - Temporarily annoyed with "art critic" RM?

• 21:45 - "RM is the Liz Cheney of the art world!"

• 22:45 - James implements a usage fee to deliver thoughts to your head

• 23:30 - Bad analogies, free speech, and TV

• 25:15 - The expensive neighborhood road

• 26:34 - A soothing perspective

• 28:10 - Territorial women's wear (for a new Arizona reality)

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SHOW THEME Catherine and James eviscerate flat earth theory and the zombified appetite for "alternate realities" while predicting the future of AI "art".

SHOW NOTES - 00:10 - Honey Bear's rescue story!

• 01:30 - James describes a real dog

• 02:10 - New format flop

• 02:30 - TikTok Flat Earth hilarity

• 03:45 - She gotta be trolling!

• 05:10 - Reason begone, here comes the wacky!

• 05:45 - Ignorance or boredom? Who cares!

• 06:15 - Stupidity rises like cream on social media

• 07:05 - Does the appetite for "alternate realities" affect how we see art?

• 07:45 - Colorado State Fair vs. AI generated art

• 08:05 - AI image generator: Midjourney

• 10:00 - "Hand of the artist" is now "your mind"!

• 11:20 - Riffing from Hudson River, but did anyone know (or care?)

• 14:30 - Questions remain re: digital image sourcing and "sampling"

• 17:49 - Image synthesis via latent diffusion

• 18:25 - Search yourself (and your art) LAION-5B

• 21:10 - Robots are coming for your creativity!

• 22:40 - Put me in your database and re-use my work!

• 23:20 - Severed head Phoestivus

• 26:33 - Interest equals value!

• 27:50 - "Watching the death of artistry..."

• 28:20 - Art communities ban AI generated images

• 29:43 - James looks into an AI crystal ball

• 31:20 - At last, James is correct!

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SHOW THEME Catherine and James discuss the "greatest conspiracy in ancient art" while summarily dismissing Minimalism, Architecture, and Modern Design.

SHOW NOTES - 00:10 - Cohost identifies as chromophobic, but not really?

• 00:48 - The Greatest Conspiracy In Ancient Art

• 01:05 - Breaking news: Ancient monochromatic statues are just faded

• 02:14 - Natural weathering takes a toll

• 02:43 - The "art historian elites" object!

• 03:40 - Restoration erases patina and the passage of time

• 05:05 - Refurbish recoil and "The Archer"

• 06:10 - Nobody paints Baby in a corner!

• 07:15 - "Ancient ancient" color gap

• 11:07 - Going mad with color!

• 12:37 - Clean away the goth (and forget Plato)!

• 13:24 - High Renaissance ghostly minimalism

• 14:05 - Michelangelo was the first Western abstract artist!

• 15:09 - "Hard no" on "nipple tattoo"

• 16:04 - Black, white, and grey = garbage palette

• 18:15 - James has a purple door (but it's actually red)

• 20:25 - "Visual stillness" vs design degradation

• 21:05 - Architectural stasis

• 23:05 - Arcosanti

• 24:38 - "Modern humans are just boring"

• 25:40 - Arcosanti bell loses a dangle

• 26:15 - Christopher shows up and ends the show

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Show Themes

• All kinds of drought

• PC Gaming

• Show note PSA

• Instagram hate

• Mannequin Madness

• Prey follow-up

• Huge conspiracy next episode!

Show Notes

• 00:20 - Cohost identifies as the “Lake Mead” of emotional support

• 01:00 - Abbreviated Southern California cringe https://www.axios.com/2022/08/24/california-drought-crisis-water-waste-celebrities

• 01:46 - So many Kardashians, so little water

• 02:15 - Stallone (and 1599 others) exceed water usage

• 02:20 - “Let Them Eat Koi” revisited! https://www.subrantpodcast.com/episode_0048_eat-koi.html

• 05:20 - Thirty years of creeping water shortages

• 06:30 - “Can you spell privilege?”

• 07:50 - PlayStation sued in UK, but why? https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-62631533

• 08:45 - James puts gaming in perspective

• 10:00 - “What’s the point? That was my point!” (Huh?)

• 10:30 - Console and platform subrant

• 13:30 - Listeners spared, contact James for more!

• 14:40 - Show notes PSA: Scroll, read, links, follow!

• • Twitter: https://twitter.com/SubRantPodcast
• • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/subrantpodcast/
• • TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@subrantpodcast

• 16:00 - I wear my (denim) sunglasses on Instagram!

• 18:23 - Idiot “feather ruffling” yields more idiocy

• 20:30 - Contemplating Plato (or not)

• 21:00 - Thank you “Mannequin Madness” for the “butts”! https://www.mannequinmadness.com

• 22:20 - Triggered by a plastic belly button, please send help! (It wasn’t the belly button)

• 22:36 - “Prey” follow-up

• 23:12 - “Predator was a better action movie, Prey was a better film” (Plato)

• 25:15 - Badass, not revisionist

• 27:20 - Muddying up the “mud scene”

• 29:00 - The “no subtitle” Predator-Prey thread

• 31:10 - Trying everything or barely trying?

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SHOW THEMES - Prey (2022) and Predator (1987)

• High tech litter boxes

• AI generated images vs editorial illustration

• Again with the dead cow head

SHOW NOTES - 00:18 - Let's both not talk about the movie you didn't see

• 00:58 - Newsflash: There is no "Prey 1"

• 02:00 - Catherine answers a citizenship question

• 03:00 - Streaming negates need for movie theaters

• 04:15 - James recommends "Prey" (2022), revisits "Predator" (1987)

• 07:18 - No spoilers here, just a Hollywood ending

• 09:35 - "Predator" is a better action film, "Prey" is a better movie

• 10:47 - Trolls in a twist

• 12:15 - No subtitles for "French Klingon"

• 13:40 - Cat poop in AI headlines

• 14:20 - Cat litter is incredibly exciting?

• 16:00 - Cats openly mock litter box technology

• 18:00 - Nothing about this is AI, so just look at you cat

• 20:35 - AI-generated digital art spurs debate about News illustrations

• 21:50 - James breaks down AI

• 24:25 - Comparing editorial illustration to AI generated images (DALL-E)

• 26:57 - Is this just image sampling or will it evolve creatively?

• 28:00 - The hubris of overcoming bias

• 29:20 - Is your bias really your perspective?

• 31:50 - Random connections generate new ideas

• 33:02 - James leaves, Catherine talks to herself

• 34:15 - We probably shouldn't ignore DALL-E!

• 35:05 - Plastic wins at our demise!

• 36:00 - In: AI all the way! Out: dead cow heads!

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SHOW THEMES - Netflix v Hulu

• Lalapalooza

• New mannequin

• De-globalization in the arts

• "Old Masters" on caring walls

• Milagros and street art

SHOW NOTES - 00:30 - Swapping Hulu for Netflix (for now)

• 01:10 - "HobiPalooza" soothed an aching soul!

• 01:45 - Shower, tea, phone off for J-Hope!

• 02:20 - James is an English teacher

• 03:07 - Better K-drama translation?

• 04:15 - Ghost stories more believable than the news?

• 05:00 - James makes Hulu recommendations

• • Save Yourselves
• • Love and Monsters
• • I Love Lucy
• • People of Earth

• 06:45 - Town of "Fish Kill" doesn't kill fish

• 07:50 - Mannequin mocking

• 10:10 - Who needs a head?

• 10:40 - Insane cyclists of Scotland

• 11:45 - De-globalization Hits the Art World (or does it?)

• 12:22 - Unwinding vs fracturing vs bullshit

• 14:25 - Art: Means to an end vs end in itself?

• 14:55 - Just say "Plato"

• 16:10 - Art blockbuster shows, niche museums, community focus

• 17:15 - Collection sell-off debate

• 21:45 - Deaccessioning? Just say "selling"!

• 22:30 - Catherine gets emotional about art preservation

• 23:15 - James subrants on the lies and lies of the artworld!

• 25:00 - 30-year China trend?

• 26:40 - "The 'China-nization' of Hong Kong"

• 27:00 - SF MOMA Mural, Healing and Milagros

• 27:12 - 100 Day Project Celebrating Essential Workers 100 Days Action's Art for Essential Workers

• 27:55 - Suenos Imports

• 29:27 - "Mural-ized" street art

• 30:15 - Hope comes full circle: Meaning of Milagros

• 31:17 - Must start with cats!

• 31:35 - I'm a dog person

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SHOW THEMES - Van Gogh "hidden" portrait

• Secret mirrors and Cracker Jack Buddhas

• AI image generators

SHOW NOTES - 00:38 - Van Gogh portrait found behind "Head of a Peasant Woman"

• 01:08 - James makes a case for "peasant-core"

• 01:35 - Random x-rays, but why?

• 02:02 - "I thought the painting was depressing"

• 02:25 - Breaking down curator boredom

• 03:12 - Impasto faux pas... Rembrandt not Van Gogh!

• 04:45 - It's simple - canvass is expensive.

• 06:12 - Van Gogh was "a broke ass painter"

• 06:30 - Buddha Buddha on the wall. How did you get there?

• 07:25 - "Mystery purchase" at Tucson Gem Show

• 08:12 - Cracker Jack enlightenment

• 10:45 - Are there more mysteries in plain sight? Probable not.

• 11:56 - All the kids are doing it? (AI image generators)

• 13:30 - Why AI? It's not art, it's a tool https://www.craiyon.com

• 14:20 - Joan of Arc eating ice cream

• 15:43 - Georgia O'Keefe painted cats?

• 18:10 - Cats in the "style" of Damien Hurst look like Laurel Burch https://www.laurelburch.com

• 19:08 - James is DALL-E wait-listed

• 21:00 - Unintended scarcity?

• 22:28 - Generating "fun spaghetti"

• 22:50 - "Nefarious" experimentation yielded freakish results!

• 24:00 - "Hack-a-thon" and curated image database

• 25:40 - Let's just leave it!

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SHOW NOTES - Grace Habib of Shop Refugee part of GoTen

• Grace started as an English teacher with GoTen

• Seamstress volunteers wanted to start Sewing class started 2021

• Grace shifted from English teaching to running Shop Refugee full time

• Stared by rebranded Shop Refugee

• Expanded classes and has its own workshop (20 person max)

• Loving Covers helped out with material donations in the beginning

• Sourcing material locally

• City Serve (Amazon, Walmart, and CostCo returns)

• Sheer fabric = Scrunchy

• Mesh netting = produce bags

• Environmentally friendly process

• 95% of sales goes to seamstress

• Business owners now coming to Shop Refugee for seamstresses

• Noggin Boss

• Seamstresses are contract working and can work at home at their pace

• Bead trade of Murano

• Welcome Cookie!

• Grace rents out her wedding arch and a mogul is born!

• Grace's marketing side hustle

• We need to support more refugees

• Parolees from Afghanistan

• Refugee is a legal status

• Spread the world!

• The Rock as the model

• Requests welcome!

• Sewing machines are awesome

• Farmer's markets

• World Refugee Day Phoenix College

• Retail stores:

• • Cultivate coffee
• • Gather Phoenix
• • SBC Book Store

• Phoenix eats batteries and tires!

• Success stories from the class

• Rapha House

• Donations (fabric and thread)!

• Aug 18 - Meeting for volunteers

• Insha'Allah

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SHOW NOTES - 00:15 - Tired of "adulting"

• 00:45 - Disregard SubRant dating advice

• 01:40 - The Met is not MOMA!

• 02:00 - Catherine doesn't listen to James!

• 02:50 - SubRant stickers buy a Lamborghini

• 03:20 - Episode 55 is important (?)

• 03:59 - All politics are local

• 04:45 - Hospitals waste time and plastic (and lives)

• 06:10 - Pink plastic (from one room) fills the dump!

• 07:15 - James has a suggestion for hospital performance art

• 07:45 - What would happen if we stopped using plastic?

• 08:35 - Hypothetical plastic recycling

• 09:53 - Sequester plastic so it doesn't kill us

• 11:10 - Glass water bottles kind of suck

• 12:15 - Glass is no picnic either

• 14:05 - Conquering the world in just 70 years

• 14:34 - Hard pass on intelligence and sacrifice

• 15:45 - Can't grow your own in Phoenix

• 16:30 - James has faith in good engineering

• 17:35 - Fewer cows would be nice

• 18:40 - Thirteen uses to offset carbon footprint

• 19:30 - Baffled by K-pop and BTS

• 20:15 - Kim Nam Joon, art enthusiast

• 20:25 - RM fans flood art museum

• 22:10 - Is it just a passing fad?

• 24:17 - James gives it one shrug (WTF?)

• 26:45 - Who is on your list of favorite modern artists?

• 29:00 - Vicarious expansion via Instagram

• 30:00 - Contemplating "Namjooning"

• 30:40 - James wants a study, but is it necessary?

• Weverse

• 32:50 - Moving to Italy but visiting ROK

• 33:29 - Fingers crossed!

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We Speak With * Jeanne Casteen: Candidate for Arizona State Senate LD2 * Judy Schwiebert: Arizona House of Representatives LD2

SHOW TOPICS * The disfunction in the Arizona legislature * The problems Arizonians are actually facing * Fighting the wave of extreme legislation from The American Legislative Exchange Council * The distraction of the "Culture Wars" * The trajectory of Womens Rights in America * Let's do better * The Arizona State Budget and the 5.3 billion dollar surplus * School vouchers * School Choice - we already have it! * Super majority for voter initiative * Ice cream vs cake

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SHOW TOPICS - Earth vs. Mars

• Top 5, No Surprise!

• Trail Stories

• Instagram Artist Sells High

• Frode Bolhuis

SHOW NOTES - 00:15 - A better world or Mars

• 00:50 - Rovers with no soul

• 01:15 - Half of global art sales, but is the art interesting?

• 01:30 - L.A. makes "Top 5" art city list

• 02:15 - California, Mars, what's the difference?

• 02:50 - New York, LA, San Francisco, Chicago, Miami

• 03:50 - "Bananas, duct tape, invisible art" in Miami

• 04:05 - Is the "creative center" really in Seoul?

• 05:00 - Has NY lost its "artsy" edge?

• 05:40 - "The Getty" ruined a biking trail

• 06:20 - James gets dumped (on the worst trail ini Phoenix)!

• 08:00 - A wash and a boulder

• 08:50 - Tom Thumb trashed toenails

• 09:30 - Underrepresenting women in art

• 11:00 - North Mountain in the dark

• 12:20 - Strava tracks your stuff?

• 14:31 - Social media intelligence test?

• 15:35 - "I Am Not a Robot" tests don't care if you're a robot

• 16:50 - Instagram artist makes good!

• 17:35 - Liking the still lifes and "Godzilla"

• 19:40 - Tiny figures make me happy! Frode Bolhuis

• 21:28 - Human form, human psyche

• 23:14 - Kinda like Pinocchio?

• 24:04 - Intuitive Alarm!

• 25:30 - It takes this village (to make interesting people)

• 26:05 - Daily creativity

• 27:35 - Actually discussed art!

• 28:02 - We're both done!

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SHOW TOPICS - Tim Sprague - Real Estate Developer - Phoenix, AZ

SHOW NOTES - 00:10 - Welcome Tim Sprague!

• 01:00 - Tim's story: "I got thrown into the deep end of the pool!"

• 03:00 - Prime interest rate comparison provides perspective

• 04:19 - Crazier than the 1980's!

• 04:27 - COVID, world economy, supply chain issues, Ukraine

• 05:15 - Tim is "pro-Phoenix", but it took awhile

• 05:45 - Waiting for cold tap water...

• 08:00 - Desert biome sunsets are the best!

• 10:43 - Courage, school of hard knocks, transforming community

• 11:40 - Applying lessons from bigger urban centers

• 12:15 - Cultivating arts, culture, and design into buildings

• 12:30 - Oasis on Grand - Affordable Housing for Artists

• 15:00 - Funding affordable living and political challenges

• 15:55 - Stratified Economic Housing

• 17:20 - Greenfield development vs in-fill projects

• 18:30 - Urban sprawl taxes community infrastructure

• 20:00 - Walkable communities, neighbors, being known

• 22:00 - Good design beats fashion

• 23:40 - Found:Re - Hotel and Gallery

• 27:01 - Arizona "Art Boutique Hotel" for all facets of art

• 28:35 - Not pretentious, not fussy, just beautiful art

• 29:08 - "Industrial Chic" and good lighting!

• 31:10 - "Cracking the egg" on in-fill development

• 32:38 - Roosevelt Action Association in response to 1-10 expansion

• 33:35 - Margaret T. Hance Park, the most invisible park in the country

• 34:12 - "The Golden Spike" joins East and West freeways

• 35:48 - Tim listens (and repeats!)

• 36:35 - "Creativity means generating ideas, good design pays for itself"

• 37:35 - "Everything we really care about is based on a story"

• 38:10 - Tim tells a story about his grandfather

• 39:10 - Tim will return in "Drought Talk"

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Themes

• Deep dig into Minecraft

• Plumber shout out!

• Multiple follow-ups

• MET does good website!

• People and art students suck

• Betty Rubble

Notes

• 00:18 - Catherine chooses coffee over Bedrock

• 01:00 - Microsoft emails James

• 01:30 - History of Minecraft, the original blocky world

• 03:15 - Scripting, cross-platform, running native? What?

• 03:55 - SubRant embraces “tech geek world”

• 04:30 - Everything leads to “The Flintstones”

• 05:20 - Plumber shout out! https://georgebrazilplumbingelectrical.com

• 06:20 - Expansion tank saves the day!

• 06:44 - Nicholas is also a “Grocery Store Superstar”!

• 07:55 - Fake bird surveillance joke follow up https://youtu.be/l30_APBNPXg

• 09:25 - We’re not art lawyers, but Catherine will test the waters

• 10:00 - We’re not scientists either, so below are alternate sources

• • 1 - Kat Epidemiologist https://www.epidemiologistkat.com
• • 2 - Very Bad Wizards https://www.verybadwizards.com
• • 3 - Andy Does Healthy https://www.tiktok.com/@andydoeshealthy

• 11:25 - James is a ruthless self-promoter (not)

• 12:05 - Now here’s a really good museum website! https://www.metmuseum.org

• 12:26 - Fly-through videos! https://www.metmuseum.org/art/online-features/met-360-project

• 13:00 - “Fake” follow-up about curator responsibility

• 14:45 - Mona Lisa eats cake https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2022/05/mona-lisa-attacked-at-louvre-museum-by-vandal-with-patisserie

• 16:40 - Breaking News: “People suck”

• 17:12 - James makes a case for cannibalism

• 17:50 - Groceries going MIA

• 18:58 - Forget Durango, just camp in San Francisco

• 21:15 - Details are important (and interesting)

• 22:10 - Marks of the mono print

• 23:26 - Intaglio embarrassment: Catherine gets mocked in art class

• 25:17 - Garbage torso painting is difficult because it’s garbage!

• 26:20 - Education theory according to James

• 26:55 - Betty Rubble

• 27:25 - At least the plumbers are listening!

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SHOW TOPICS * Two show announcements! * Storage Whores * We see dead people

SHOW NOTES * 00:10 - Merchandise but no Anniversary Show * 01:10 - James and Catherine are aliens * 01:25 - New SubRant TikTok! * 01:45 - Online video editing software * 02:30 - Fake til proven Basquiat? * 03:05 - "Chain of Custody" and "Players" + Basquiat - (deceased) Artist + Larry Gagosian - Art dealer + Thad Mumford - (deceased) Screenwriter, 1st owner + Storage Unit -Unpaid x30 years + William Force - Art/antiquities dealer, 2nd owner + Lee Mangan - Retired salesman, 2nd owner + Pierce O'Donnell - Lawyer, purchased interest in 6/25 pieces + "Mumford's Poem" - Taped on dot-matrix printer paper + Lindon Leader - Brand expert, FedEx logo designer + Diego Cortez - (deceased) Basquiat Estate Authentication Committee (deceased - disbanded 2012) member + Jordanna Moore Saggese - Author "Reading Basquiat: Exploring Ambivalence in American Art". + Aaron De Groft - Director & CEO, Orlando Museum of Art + Cynthia Brumback - Board Chair, Orlando Museum of Art * 06:50 - Trying hard for that "place in time" * 07:30 - "One Last Heist" coming soon to a theatre near you! Or, "Ocean's Fail" * 09:05 - Chasing the antiquity dragon * 10:30 - Perusing the "Cardboard Collection" (video) * 11:30 - Provenance (and asking questions) is "off-limits" in Orlando * 12:34 - "Sometimes, you shouldn't attribute to malice what can be attributed to incompetence" * 13:30 - Orlando, unhinged! * 14:15 - Traumatically trapped in Orlando elevator! * 14:52 - "Heroes and Monsters" - John Michel Basquiat * 15:40 - A "stooge" for with good intentions, or just a stooge? * 16:45 - James has a list of critiques * 18:02 - Just say "these works may or may not be authentic" * 18:21 - Having fun? Spending money? Who cares if it's real or not! * 19:00 - Back to the "in-the-style-adjacent" artwork * 20:30 - Achieving layering within a "visual collage" * 21:00 - Deconstructing Basquiat, again! * 23:03 - It's ghoulish to use dead people to authenticate your fakes * 24:55 - The Mystery of the 1994 FedEx Logo * 27:05 - "Handwriting analysis and poems don't authenticate artworks" * 28:20 - Back to Banksy's Instagram archive and end

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SHOW TOPICS - The science of boredom. So bad we had to do it twice.

SHOW NOTES - 00:10 - Take 2

• 00:45 - Less you know & clueless Joe

• 01:05 - Spotify, if you're listening!

• 01:52 - "Blinded me with (bad) science (journalism)"

• 03:15 - Warning: No "Life Coach" On Duty

• 03:45 - Scientific fluff piece?

• 04:20 - Let's get into it!

• 05:07 - Emotional hyperbole

• 06:17 - Boredom seems correctable

• 07:03 - Please define!

• 08:47 - Categorizing boring

• 09:27 - Catherine's studies cemented crazy!

• 09:48 - Opinion about assumption isn't science

• 11:06 - James has a sleep hobby

• 12:27 - Buzzing outta boredom

• 13:47 - "Excruciating" not proven

• 14:32 - "It's all hypothetical"

• 15:27 - Hypothetically, artists are interesting?

• 16:02 - "Who feels more deeply than the artist?"

• 17:05 - The simple wisdom of Von Tilburg!

• 17:42 - Let them talk!

• 19:01 - Reframe the lie?

• 20:26 - Shameless SubRant sticker plug

• 20:37 - Spotify, are you listening yet?

• 21:17 - How to be left alone at a party!

• 22:50 - James is bored and out!

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SHOW TOPICS - Leaving Facebook, again!

• Warhol stole our colors

• Drought is real

• "The Sugar Shack", Ernie Barns

• Barns, Wyeth, Rockwell, Holyfield

• Sugar Shack vs The Mona Lisa

• Doesn't matter what is real

• Stupid or boring, both!

SHOW NOTES - 00:07 - Cookies and podcasts don't mix

• 00:55 - 72hrs of Facebook is enough!

• 02:05 - "Faking" a breach for a phone number?

• 03:30 - James plays "chicken" with Instagram, and wins!

• 04:05 - Panic de-activation

• 04:55 - They know what you did last summer

• 06:02 - Black and white and mostly people I don't know

• 08:30 - Artist name correction: "One Beach Plastic", Richard and Judith Lang

• 09:25 - Ozzie Osborn is alive, but James remain unconvinced (or maybe just doesn't care)

• 09:50 - Our opinions are not legal advice AND neither of us are lawyers!

• 10:15 - Warhol' and SubRant's common-color-ground

• 10:55 - Just get a real camera!

• 11:57 - What is a "Super Market Star"? Catherine is.

• 12:45 - Drought of content about a drought

• 13:55 - Calabasas Koi

• 14:45 - Wealth and the American "Porpoise"

• 16:45 - Symbiotic relationship between rich people and big goldfish explained

• 17:11 - "Let them eat koi!"

• 17:50 - Good Times! Another art auction, another $15,000,000!

• 18:20 - "The Sugar Shack", by Ernie Barns

• 19:07 - He fills the canvas with movement!

• 19:46 - "Country Ride" 1982 reminiscent but not derivative of Wyeth

• 21:35 - Barnes: "abstraction not exaggeration"

• 22:20 - Similar to Rockwell, in that they are both illustrators of ideas

• 24:21 - John Holyfield

• 25:03 - Back to Warhol, it's just a t-shirt

• 25:30 - "The Sugar Shack" vs. "Mona Lisa"

• 26:30 - We're not meat bags, we're a simulation

• 28:37 - Do you prefer stupid or boring?

• 29:26 - Twitter poll fail

• 30:15 - Go wash your car

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SHOW TOPICS - Anniversary Interrupted

• No Fun With Migraines

• Zooming In Pajamas

• Everything Is Garbage

• Micro-plastic in the blood

• Pink Ball, Blue Ball

• Trashing Art

SHOW NOTES - 00:20 - "Spot on" co-host forgets SubRant anniversary

• 01:30 - Other co-host forgets about Leap Year

• 02:10 - James crushes migraine for sake of podcast

• 05:00 - Airport pajama fashion

• 05:47 - Reviving Facebook

• 06:35 - "Zero-sum" upgrade or princess fantasy?

• 08:57 - "You got a window, open it"

• 10:15 - Plastic garbage obsession

• 11:00 - Misinterpreting micro-plastics

• 12:00 - Forgoing a Lego blood clot

• 12:45 - Vegetarian siting on dead cow worries about plastic toothpaste

• 13:40 - Just waiting to be discovered!

• 14:04 - 'Blue Balls' destroy humanity

• 15:17 - "One word: plastics" (The Graduate, 1967)

• 16:20 - Plastic saturation limit

• 16:45 - Catherine's savage mercury moment

• 17:41 - Talking strangers at the grocery strangers and palpating tomatoes

• 18:45 - Take-out plastic overwhelms studio space

• 19:58 - Plastic pollution art

• 21:30 - Don't divert, use real trash! "Bristol Whales" by Sue Lipscombe

• 22:25 - My bags have been a tapestry "Bridge" and "Ocean of Plastic" by Dianna Cohen

• 22:50 - Consuming chips for art

• 23:32 - Colorful bottle top rainbow trash "One Beach Plastic" by Richard and Judith Lang

• 24:22 - Infinitely sustainable materials?

• 25:02 - Compressing into nature "Plastic Planet" by Calder Kamin

• 26:07 - Introducing "Tik-Toad"

• 26:34 - James has a favorite!

• 27:02 - The Great Lakes palette

• 28:48 - Podcast of imperfection

• 29:02 - "What is art? Listen and you still won't know!"

• 30:12 - "I good think too"!

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SHOW TOPICS - Conspiracies are for the birds

• Wearable art?

• If I made a TikTok

• (Over) Selling Warhol

• Gratuitous BTS reference

• Tricycles can hurt you

SHOW NOTES - 00:30 - Pivot followup: Shadowcat is a trail bike

• 02:00 - $7700 of fun

• 02:30 - Instagram followup: James is a hypocrite

• 03:15 - Black and white and square and mostly cat

• 04:00 - Podcast birds (aren't real)

• 05:00 - No birds in the hood?

• 06:00 - "Hit piece" gets tarred and feathered

• 06:40 - All conspiracies should be this much fun!

• 08:00 - Catherine gets concerned

• 08:35 - "Are you referring to bird drone surveillance?"

• 09:25 - The internet raised him good

• 10:15 - Listener provides content! Thanks Jay!

• 11:00 - Old Masters and altered sleeves

• 12:08 - Who called her an old lady?

• 13:00 - If the jacket fits

• 13:35 - The real crime is calling it "art"

• 14:35 - Bed under a "Starry Night"

• 15:00 - Spitballing a TikTok series

• 15:44 - (Over) Selling a Warhol

• 16:35 - James drops his Warhol cringe, just this once

• 17:30 - Marilyn v. Andy AKA "Iconic v. Iconic"

• 19:15 - "Shot Sage Blue Marilyn" captures the 1960's

• 20:35 - Shoutout to Phoenix Art Museum

• 21:20 - Is it OK to film art and them post it?

• 21:55 - BTS adjacent "Rkive art vibe"

• 23:45 - Second tricycle childhood?

• 27:25 - Turning, tipping, crashing, and freaking out. Thanks Trike!

• 27:50 - Ozzie Osborne is alive!

• 29:00 - PSA: Slow your 3-wheel roll

• 29:45 - James was wrong

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SHOW TOPICS - Writer DJ Leary discusses art, poetry, prose, and next steps on his creative journey.

SHOW NOTES - 00:12 - DJ "SubRants" again!

• 02:00 - Pandemic apartment good for writing

• 02:50 - Laundry basket anxiety attack

• 04:00 - Poems, stories, Pivot Cycles commercial

• 04:20 - DJ's Pivot Shadowcat Ad

• 08:20 - "4 Minutes Later" (James bike-nerds out)

• 09:50 - No more training wheels, ever!

• 11:15 - Listen to the neighborhood ambiance

• 12:00 - "DC Rat Mob" (actual rodents, not politicians)

• 14:08 - Bethesda v. Scottsdale and a tattoo artist's floor

• 16:20 - Bird loudly joins podcast

• 17:00 - What DJ will and won't miss about Phoenix

• 19:20 - Phoenix expensive, friends moving on

• 20:30 - One rodeo is enough for a lifetime

• 21:00 - Surprise, DC is political!

• 22:30 - Poems for "Tuckle"

• 23:13 - Cocaine free coffee beans

• 24:15 - No "swerving right" for easy money?

• 26:00 - Writers needed (in Thailand?)

• 27:15 - Fiverr and the "gig economy"

• 29:15 - Motivated through authentic interaction

• 32:18 - Instagram as "poetry archive"

• 33:30 - DJ is a tattoo!

• 35:30 - Being an artist is hard work

• 38:40 - Screaming into the Twitter void

• 41:04 - Instagram pay dirt

• 43:20 - Next steps for prose over poetry

• 44:50 - Think you're good at what you do? You're not!

• 47:45 - Catchy, but played out

• 49:00 - Practice makes better

• 50:25 - DJ and a typewriter

• 52:00 - San Diego and DC give "great busk"

• 53:03 - Shout out to The Smithsonian

• 54:05 - DJ recites a poem

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SHOW TOPICS - Forgetful U.S. healthcare system

• Tattooing Phoenix

• Discoveries in weird places

• SubRant social media

• (Too) Hot Phoenix real estate

• Art intersection

• Gentrification is disorienting (for Catherine)

SHOW NOTES - 00:05 - SubRant is hostile, but it's not work

• 01:45 - James is unrecognizable

• 02:45 - Curious canine cat food caper!

• 04:50 - Tattoos, but where (to get one)?

• 05:26 - Forehead or nowhere!

• 06:20 - Will Catherine really get tattoos?

• 08:00 - James and "left breast Jimin"

• 09:03 - Moving on...

• 09:10 - Digging Anat, the "Goddess of Everything"

• 09:50 - Destination: Gaza, but back away from my head!

• 11:15 - Hidden basements and the boxes therein

• 13:15 - Attention (13 listeners): SubRant SubReddit coming!

• 14:36 - James is "way serious"

• 14:50 - Better late than never! SubRant social media!

• • Instagram: SubRant Podcast
• • Twitter: @SubRantPodcast

• 15:10 - Messing with realtors!

• 15:50 - "Housing Fodder and Unaffordable Phoenix"

• 16:38 - All James needs is weather, trails, Costco

• 17:21 - Redefining "exponential" and exerting male privilege

• 18:50 - Compelling content as Catherine files her nails

• 20:20 - More money than sense, but not climate refugees

• 21:55 - Least sustainable city? Let's move there!

• 22:45 - Intersection Art

• 24:28 - Too much ado about Trompe-l'oeil

• 25:20 - Phoenix murals, the 80 seconds of art this week

• 26:00 - Disorientation in the Arts District

• 27:43 - Shipping containers and hip hop

• 29:53 - Lovin' the urban chic vibe

• 31:15 - Putting a pin in "Art on the Street"

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SHOW TOPICS - Creativity

• Pop art and other space junk

• Douchebag of the week

• Library books and censorship

• Netflix

SHOW NOTES - 00:10 - James got news, but show must go on!

• 00:45 - 100 Days of Creativity Project

• 02:15 - Instagram accounts - paintings & cats?

• 02:55 - "To the moon, Jeff Koons!"

• 03:42 - Space, the final frontier for the rich and egoic (which is a word)

• 05:00 - If this were only a joke

• 07:20 - Got space junk? Hire the banana guy!

• 08:31 - Writer award goes to...

• 09:22 - James critiques "Death Becomes Her" because he is a zombie

• 09:45 - Catherine gets triggered by book reviewer

• 10:48 - Let librarians library!

• 11:30 - No common sense, people suck, let's stay home

• 13:00 - Can someone else's preferences define our discomfort?

• 14:48 - Hyperbole for hyperbole

• 15:58 - We're already on that slippery slope

• 17:15 - Netflix, just chill

• 19:24 - Prices up, content down, Star Trek gone

• 21:50 - Nobody wants advertising!

• 22:25 - James reminisces, DVDs to streaming

• 23:54 - Breaking down the niches

• 25:37 - Catherine just wants to watch everything!

• 27:30 - High prices for crap?

• 28:59 - SubRant fever dreams get cancelled

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SHOW TOPICS - UNESCO makes a holiday

• "Professional" artist?

• Billionaires and philanthropy (or the lack there of)

• Trashing Amazon

• Artistic activism

• Wearing Rembrandt

• Math-nerd moment

SHOW NOTES - 00:15 - "World Art Day" is every day

• 01:20 - What is a profession really?

• 02:07 - Artists just don't get paid!

• 02:58 - Show note refund / RISD with an extra "E"

• 04:20 - MacKenzie Scott is a generous "22%-er"

• 05:10 - Critiquing a billionaire short list

• 06:54 - "...and the douche-bag is..."

• 07:50 - Turned off by Amazon

• 09:30 - Dumpster diving proves a point

• 10:30 - A new take on "sticker shock", but is it art?

• 12:00 - Alexandra Skochilenko "awaiting trial" for creative protest

• 12:36 - Seems like yarn graffiti

• 14:15 - Representative Cori Bush is a "positivist"?

• 16:30 - Creativity, courage and blank signs!

• 17:45 - Now that's "wearable art"!

• 19:14 - Hands down, it's a an interesting bracelet!

• 20:00 - Cooper Hewitt snags original, but there were 10!

• 21:40 - "Golden Ratio" is not just for nerds

• 22:05 - Fibonacci sequence obsession

• 24:00 - Random quote not previously covered

• 24:28 - "Mini-Madoff" and out!

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SHOW TOPICS - Must leave home

• Mushrooms are everywhere

• Shoutout to Arizona LD 2 Democrats!

• Bedazzling garbage

• Don't feed the birds

• Shoulda Dropped Out of RISD

SHOW NOTES - 00:05 - Time for Catherine to leave the house

• 01:50 - No camping for James

• 02:39 - Fungus objection

• 03:20 - Human brain: art project on mushrooms!

• 04:55 - Portobello prose?

• 06:12 - "Annoyingly pretentiously tedious"

• 08:00 - Organic molded work

• 09:20 - Abandon crypto for mushrooms

• 11:00 - "Inter-species" collaboration in a Phoenix art space

• 12:00 - After our first podcast it was all downhill

• 12:55 - Links for Arizona LD 2 Democrats running for state legislature

• Rep. Judy Schwiebert: Twitter, Facebook, website, and newsletter

• Jeanne Casteen for LD2 State Senate: website, Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram

• LD2 Dems: website, newsletter, monthly meeting, Facebook, and Twitter

• 13:05 - Weekly Events to support AZ LD 2

• Wednesday Phonebank from 5-7

• Saturday Canvassing from 10-12:30

• Saturday Phonebank from 3-5

• Sunday Canvassing every other week from 2:30-5:00

• Anytime Phonebank daily from 9am-7pm. (You must be trained before doing this)

• 14:10 - Cheetos and crystals

• 17:00 - "Swarovski-lying" garbage for consumerism

• 18:00 - Everyone, play with your food!

• 19:17 - Ignore Catherine and her fever dreams

• 20:25 - James uncovers the geodesic mystery

• 21:30 - Hemp "legos" for houses

• 23:15 - Cheeto-sphere vs. peanut butter pinecone

• 24:07 - "Sam, have you seen Americans?"

• 25:50 - James sounds like a hippie

• 26:31 - Sam (and James) went to RISD

• 27:27 - Do a "real power move", drop out!

• 28:24 - This is the worst podcast on the planet

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SHOW TOPICS - Words matter

• Travel and Catherine don't mix

• Oligarchs and art

• Saving art in times of war

• Good Grammy

SHOW NOTES - 00:07 - "Hanging out" is not dating, and words matter!

• 01:05 - James berates Catherine's (lack of) travel

• 01:20 - Pissing on the Midwest

• 02:25 - Exploring Hong Kong before Google maps

• 04:15 - "It's the oligarchs' (art) world, we just paint in it?"

• 05:35 - Guardians of ambiguity

• 06:45 - Hold that auction!

• 08:30 - Gatekeepers of moral responsibility?

• 10:00 - Catherine mistakes a soccer team for a neighborhood in New York

• 11:00 - The global presence of Philips (not light bulbs)

• 11:45 - James defines "art washing"

• 13:20 - Don't collude with bad guys

• 14:05 - There are no cushions, even for art

• 15:13 - Dr. Evil was not evil or effective

• 15:30 - Disclosure laws needed, case closed

• 17:25 - Keeping collecting safe in "The Garage"

• 18:25 - Even ugly history repeats itself

• 19:50 - Destroying art erases humanity's connections

• 21:45 - Prohibiting "wanton destruction" since 1899

• 23:35 - Drunk dialing an Italian article that will not be shared here

• 24:50 - James is (not) a word criminal

• 25:37 - The Grammys, BTS, President Volodymyr Zelensky

• 26:45 - Make your own damn art!

• 27:06 - Stop the war!

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SHOW TOPICS - Suspicions social media ads

• Fake Banksy shows

• Dissecting sleazy

• Just go to Banksy

SHOW NOTES - 00:05 - Suspicious ads

• 00:50 - Banksy "Show" keeps showing up, but not at Phoenix Art Museum

• 03:00 - Give info to get info? Nope.

• 03:45 - Car dealership urban legend

• 04:30 - Internet sleuth uncovers a "Turkey"

• 05:05 - Banksy says "Nope"

• 05:18 - Another "not Banksy approved" scenario

• 06:40 - What do you see? Refunds!

• 07:44 - No chisels, but "high value" work, "according to the company"

• 09:20 - Siding with the artist is the "silver lining"

• 09:54 - Go to Banksy to view Banksy, he shares!

• 11:20 - "The public doesn't have a right to anything"

• 12:20 - No good argument for "sleazy", but not a PSA

• 14:10 - "Vibing" with Diego Rivera's brushstrokes

• 15:20 - Banksy's message is more concise than this discussion

• 15:48 - Just follow Banksy on Instagram

• 16:40 - Please don't steal my wall

• 17:20 - Banksy does your homework!

• 18:00 - Vermeer didn't give consent, yet...

• 18:30 - "The better the show, the less you pay"

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• 00:05 - Hello, it's 2021 calling!

• 00:40 - "Mask-hole", unchained

• 03:00 - "Phone-holes" vs James

• 04:05 - James explains the "Slur of Karen"

• 05:00 - Crushing on Betty Rubble and Mary Ann

• 05:30 - "Gilligan's Island", the last great TV show

• 06:20 - The horrors of re-watching 80s-90s TV

• 07:50 - Everything after the "Miami Vice" pilot was crap

• 08:30 - Skewed media degrades morale, even on the battlefield

• 10:15 - TikTok's "Hypo Hysterical History" covered it first!

• 11:50 - Media's lack of good analysis is failing us

• 13:10 - Be selective with your social media

• 14:08 - "Beau of the Fifth Column" on YouTube provides thoughtful content

• 15:50 - Speaking of laptop art!

• 16:30 - Harry Styles click-bait

• 18:00 - Art, modern archaeology, and psychotic bursts of emotion

• 20:00 - Laptop stickers: "all-in" or a minimalist?

• 22:11 - Dickies is not street wear

• 23:00 - Laptops: Swiss Army knife or portal to your existence?

• 26:15 - Computers are more important than cars

• 27:33 - James is (not) a hothead

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SHOW TOPICS - Balloons!

• iPhone addiction

• Desert flooding

• Goblin-mode?

• Quasi-political rant

• Locksmith saves the family!

SHOW NOTES - 00:45 - Balloon bouquet for all occasions!

• 01:30 - Catherine late to podcast, again

• 02:15 - Step away from the iPhone!

• 04:15 - "The Podcast Record Of Our Lives"

• 05:30 - Rocks in her yard, rocks in her head

• 07:00 - Catherine floods Phoenix, but this content is sheer drought

• 08:10 - Goblins trigger James

• 09:20 - "No aesthetic" is an aesthetic

• 11:00 - American short attention span makes everything ancient history

• 11:53 - "It's always something...every day is a crazy day!"

• 12:15 - Who's onboard with the logical progression to nihilism?

• 13:20 - A bad case of cosplay

• 14:20 - Break-up couch and 4 days of ice cream

• 15:05 - This deep dive is really too much

• 16:30 - Acceptance, resignation, or 3 pairs of yoga pants?

• 18:30 - Just don't be a goblin, ok?

• 19:15 — Good things happen!

• 20:00 - James makes a case for "Orc-Mode"

• 20:30 - So much for the podcast about art!

• 21:15 - USA has many blessings

• 22:30 - Double-edged sword of abundance

• 24:20 - Constitutional "gentleman's agreement"

• 24:44 - America only works if we all agree to the rules

• 26:19 - Goblin mode leads to destruction!

• 26:30 - Failed locks but Jarod saves the day!

• 27:55 - Catherine was a "party gurl"!

• 29:28 - There goes our "G-rating"

• 30:45 - Intellectual level dropped so we need to stop

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SHOW TOPICS - Solar panels

• This old house

• Lies, lies, lies

• Housing rant

• Learning Korean

• CDs and missing the 1990s

SHOW NOTES - 00:15 - James's invisible solar panels

• 01:00 - Catherine's infrastructure meltdown

• 02:20 - Monetizing the sun

• 03:54 - Energy efficiency goodie box

• 04:50 - Lying is bad, but...

• 06:00 - Morality: osmosis or reason?

• 08:00 - Just tell me "it's OK"!

• 08:40 - Tweets et cetera

• 09:45 - Turn down the amplifier already!

• 11:53 - Bob's truth conquers a bridge!

• 13:25 - Freedom through candor

• 14:20 - Who has the power?

• 14:45 - "Candorous" is now a word

• 16:00 - House CEO buys $900 toilet

• 18:30 - Arizona is too boring to be this expensive

• 20:05 - Ignoring the housing shortage is not helpful

• 20:55 - Now for some good news! Learning Korean!

• 21:25 - Two minutes of rambling...

• 23:05 - "Talk To Me In Korean" books arrived fast!

• 24:15 - New alphabet, Hangul, intimidation, drawing faces

• 24:40 - Migraines, guitar, and Spanish

• 26:00 - All musical rabbit holes lead to BTS (for Catherine)

• 27:30 - Buying CDs is back!

• 29:00 - James will always have "The Fifth Element"

• 31:05 - Embracing analogue and other 1990s nostalgia

• 32:22 - Design the world that you want to live in!

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SHOW TOPICS - Phoenix: Aliens in the alleyway

• Recycling rant

• Art destruction

• Enough orange for a lifetime

• BTS is our only hope!

• Butchering a new language

SHOW NOTES - 00:10 - Alleys are despicable

• 00:30 - "Every week it's guns, guns, guns!"

• 01:25 - "Where has all the garbage gone?"

• 02:20 - Alien crash landing on Dreamy Draw!

• 03:15 - Dumpsters, cows, no difference

• 04:20 - Illegal dumping or art installation?

• 05:25 - Please don't sleep in the alley

• 05:50 - Hold your recycle containers close

• 07:00 - Recycling territory sparks aggression

• 08:10 - Just recycle Florida

• 09:00 - Phoenix recycling burn-out

• 10:20 - Cut stuff out, get stuff done!

• 11:10 - James wins "reduce, reuse, recycle"

• 12:10 - Bob's "empty toy-room" epiphany!

• 13:20 - "Shrink-wrap" and snap, but why?

• 16:15 - Destruction of Malaysian tiger sculpture

• 19:00 - Public art is not your playground!

• 19:35 - Porshes don't float, "news from the sea", oligarch B&B

• 21:35 - Destruction of Ukrainian paintings

• 22:55 - Museum as target

• 23:45 - Violent random acts hurt humanity

• 24:35 - We can only grieve for what is lost

• 25:35 - Now some good news?

• 25:50 - Enough orange, moving on!

• 27:35 - BTS is the new "rose colored glasses"!

• 29:05 - Just "Talk To Me in Korean"

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SHOW TOPICS - Luxury car roast

• Battery zombies and Christmas lights

• Phoenix recycling woes

• Tiny apartments

• Roblox non-story

• Medusa turning heads

SHOW NOTES - 00:10 - Porsche supply chain heats up!

• 00:55 - If ship on fire, jump overboard

• 01:45 - Smoking Lamborghinis on the water

• 02:05 - EV battery vs "the environment"

• 03:00 - The expensive barbarian battery

• 04:45 - "Electr-(on)-ic" battery activism or PR?

• 06:40 - Climate, EVs, not yet "Golden Age"

• 07:47 - Is "Million Mile" battery a zombie, OR Analogous to Christmas string lights?

• 09:22 - TV disposal nightmare in Phoenix!

• 11:25 - James gets tough on recycling

• 12:22 - Cubicle apartments, London to S. Korea

• 13:35 - Seven square meters with potatoes

• 14:45 - Rant of the Phoenix homebodies

• 16:05 - Foresty Forest

• 16:35 - James has no need for houses

• 16:55 - Roblox, mini-figs, blurring the naughty bits

• 18:55 - Sexist censorship for square butts

• 19:44 - Simply outrageous but not puritanical

• 20:51 - Back to art with the "Me Too" Medusa

• 21:40 - Turning mythology "on its head"

• 22:56 - Amplified controversy via social media

• 23:15 - Dissecting the "hot takes"

• 24:08 - How about two or three heads?

• 25:30 - Art is hard and photography is under appreciated

• 26:20 - Arlene Gottfried photographs

• 28:11 - "How do we chronicle our relationships?"

• 28:44 - "These are not studio pictures"

• 29:25 - Nice to come across art that moves you!

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SHOW TOPICS * Welcome Mary Fortney, Campaign Manager for Representative Judy Schwiebert, AZ LD2 * All politics is local! * Stop messing with Arizona education * Voting is key to democratic processes * Keep the legislature working for the people! * Pay attention Arizonans!

SHOW NOTES * 00:20 - Mary describes her political journey * 3:050 - Why the State Legislature is important * 05:00 - “Local is where you start!” * 06:05 - 1980 returns to haunt Arizona education! (Aggregate Expenditure Limit explained) * 09:20 - No medals for 49th place Arizona! * 10:20 - ALEC, privatization, AZ as “test market” * 12:00 - Tweets and trolls! * 13:30 - Lottery, land sales, misinformation * 15:40 - Let’s expand voter engagement! * 17:25 - Voting is core element of democracy * 18:40 - Voter suppression hurts across party lines * 20:00 - AZ’s mail-in voting historic “street cred” * 22:15 - Judy Schwiebert cares about Arizona! * 24:20 - “Tier 1 Districts” and the “single shot” * 28:00 - Redistricting, revisiting Ken Clark * 28:40 - Campaign Manager’s Day, never boring! * 32:20 - What about the “outer-space” base? * 33:10 - Mary’s masterful burger pivot! * 34:25 - The Question Purple and recap!

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SHOW TOPICS - Chocolate, chocolate, chocolate

• "Fight Club" rewind to original ending

• Security guard's first day: vandalize painting

• Crypto fail and "Crypto-pocalypse"

• Valentine's Day and Super Bowl silliness

• "Mask-iety"?

• Tucson might be boring, but...

SHOW NOTES - 00:05 - Hive box update

• 00:25 - Where do Instagram stories go?

• 01:50 - Raising chocolate awareness

• 04:10 - Chocolate migraine

• 04:50 - SubRant controls narrative, again!

• 05:50 - James teaches "power driving"

• 06:30 - The clout of 12 listeners

• 07:00 - "Improving" the art is not your job

• 07:50 - Countdown: Yeltsin Gallery name change

• 08:50 - "Don't re-doodle what I drew!"

• 10:55 - Back to crypto with NFT fail

• 11:49 - The "mint-post-buy" full circle

• 13:23 - Horrifying Bitcoin bailout prediction

• 13:45 - Stable or unstable coin?

• 15:15 - "The Bank of Fred"

• 17:45 - A loophole speculation kind of market

• 20:41 - Stable is a myth bro

• 22:07 - James is not too old for crypto

• 23:00 - "Web 1" reminiscing

• 25:00 - James wields a hammer as a gift

• 25:45 - Flowers in car vs pre-packaged holiday

• 27:00 - What is a "Super Bowl"?

• 28:20 - Maskless dreams

• 29:00 - Systematic desensitization, our own research, friends with COVID

• 30:05 - Catherine simplifies football culture

• 31:55 - Don't trash Tuc-son or Tubac!

• 34:10 - Horrible sense of direction exposed

• 35:45 - Missile silo, airplane graveyard, done

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SHOW TOPICS - Cookies, groceries, shrinking commodities

• Cruising is rife with piracy and betrayal

• Fight Club segue to China rant

• News articles: Spotify, Palin, fast-food COVID

• Cracks in Pieta reveal nothing

SHOW NOTES - 00:10 - (Bad) Girl Scout cookies (and James is done)

• 02:10 - Boxes are shrinking!

• 03:00 - Is "supply chain" code for inflation?

• 03:45 - Aargh! Pirates are trending!

• 04:50 - Catherine's island mutiny!

• 06:50 - Sailing is not as gross as camping

• 08:00 - "Fight Flub" new Chinese ending

• 09:20 - Who buys the lies?

• 10:15 - Media bias v. indoctrination

• 11:00 - ChinaRant

• 13:10 - Grandfather of Grunge" throws down

• 14:15 - Activism, Music, Spotify, Joe Rogan

• 15:45 - Money talks, 1970 walks

• 18:50 - Opposition to misinformation is the point

• 20:00 - Sarah has COVID and flips off NYC

• 22:50 - How much are you willing to be sick?

• 24:00 - What happened to this podcast?

• 25:00 - "Mask-In-The-Box"

• 27:25 - Will "the real Pieta" please stand up?

• 30:00 - Art IS finished

• 32:30 - Nothing but an art-free art podcast

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• 00:10 - The cat vs pigeon story

• 01:00 - Lying podcasts

• 01:15 - RIP Meatloaf

• 02:20 - Dark humor fail

• 02:50 - Huel challenge fail changes the rules

• 03:35 - Targeted ads peg Catherine 100%

• 03:55 - The $53 "free" Hive gift box!

• 05:35 - Just walk to Seoul Market

• 06:20 - No Huel for James, he has an air fryer

• 06:55 - James riffs on the art world

• 07:15 - What is an "emerging artist"?

• 08:15 - James defines the terms

• 10:25 - Article

• 11:00 - A guide for new art collectors

• 13:25 - James is technically an established artist!

• 14:10 - How about "pre-emerging zygote artist"?

• 15:35 - Investors, galleries, art "pump-n-dump"

• 16:55 - James quotes Duchamp’s still relevant perspective

• 18:00 - Zombie Formalism’s abstract regurgitation

• 19:00 - Curator pressure evades regulation

• 20:30 - James and a a "Houston Gallerist" subrant!

• 22:20 - Catherine’s emerging art purchase

• 24:20 - Unwelcoming galleries shred naivete

• 26:20 - James relives an excruciating studio experience

• 28:00 - Leave 'em wanting more!

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- 00:10 - James tells a joke

- 00:40 - James's psychiatry subrant

- 01:40 - Good "dad jokes" gone bad

- 03:30 - Bike science says "fatter is faster"

- 03:52 - Catherine falls asleep

- 04:07 - "Zero-Resolution" January

- 05:15 - Alcohol-adjacent sushi beach getaway

- 06:18 - How bleak is your love (of February)?

- 06:55 - Every day is "Air Fryer Day"

- 08:05 - From "Movember" to "No-spender"

- 11:00 - No bees or trees in suburbs

- 11:21 - Huel does not sponsor this podcast

- 12:28 - Couture camp food?

- 13:05 - Catherine's camping horror stories

- 14:30 - Sleeping with wolves and bears

- 15:45 - Thirty acres of gunshots and chanting

- 19:05 - house hunting is as close to camping as Catherine wants to get

- 19:58 - Short sales and Satanic rituals

- 20:52 - "Air Fryer February" started here

- 21:50 - James can't stop, won't stop frying

- 23:33 - Brussel sprouts can be heinous

- 25:40 - Immersion blender fan-gurl

- 27:03 - Why are we discussing kitchen ovens?

- 29:05 - We really need to talk about art!

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• 00:15 - Drilling for earbuds

• 00:40 - Babies are gross

• 01:35 - Creativity hits a TikTok wall

• 02:44 - Copy & paste TikTok garbage

• 04:25 - Mind violence and "Moonstruck"

• 07:07 - Don't buy it, just TAKE IT!

• 07:37 - It's all about microbiology

• 08:12 - A "hard out" at Sprouts

• 08:57 - James gets his cut

• 09:43 - NFTs - an idea perfect for the "nothing" podcast

• 10:39 - James gets triggered by "jar" article

• 12:20 - Catherine explains NFTs

• 13:05 - For this podcast, NFT = "art"

• 14:25 - NFT "ART" = "visual diarrhea"

• 15:15 - "Devoid of content, but still selling"

• 15:36 - Artist who started selling NFTs less than a year ago is now making six figures

• 16:20 - Catherine's NFT rant

• 17:56 - James deconstructs Web 3

• 18:55 - "Remember GeoCities? No you don't!"

• 19:48 - Make way for smarter greedier people

• 22:20 - NFTs are the new Beanie Babies

• 24:00 - The comic book bubble

• 26:00 - Artists can benefit from NFT sales

• 28:00 - James describes blockchain and more

• 31:15 - Exiting the paywall

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• 00:03 - "Warning: Art Emergency!"

• 00:33 - Cultural apocalypse?

• 01:00 - James's paintings at The Children's Museum of Phoenix

• 02:30 - "No ice" Phoenix skating rink!

• 03:09 - Buying memories through scars and art

• 03:15 - Shout out to Betsy Ferman, COO

• 03:48 - Ignoring Warhol's "Art Signal"

• 04:45 - Catherine is a hermit, except for Costco

• 05:20 - Suspicious pizza cheese

• 07:20 - Restaurants are hard

• 07:48 - Cookbook spurs 25-year fantasy

• 09:05 - From "Tuck Shop" to "The Coronado"

• 10:15 - "Take-out" cures "cooking burn-out"

• 11:00 - Co-opted by collective consciousness!

• 12:15 - Mobile Knitting Mobile

• 13:15 - Video game birthday van is just sad

• 14:12 - James "Frankenstein-ed" an X-Box!

• 15:24 - Dreams of a Cookie Mobile

• 16:30 - Simplicity is a life hack

• 17:30 - Vegan with a dash of meat please!

• 18:03 - Bring back restaurant upholstery

• 19:30 - Background noise is an energetic suck

• 20:49 - Italian food with a side of international abduction

• 22:00 - Tutti a tavola a mangiare cibo Messicano?

• 22:46 - "Covert Vegan" restaurant for adults only

• 23:37 - Jolly pancakes and tofu dogs

• 24:30 - Running through streets craving steak?

• 24:58 - "Forget About Meat Cookbook", Karen Brooks

• 25:55 - "What do I have but time?"

• 27:06 - Cruisin' for black bean burgers

• 29:00 - Air fryers, washing grills, lame content

• 30:32 - Is this even worth publishing?

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Christmas Special!!!

The show notes are off for the Christmas Holiday.

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• 00:30 - Lights up on Thanksgiving

• 01:30 - Holiday "No Compete Clause"

• 02:00 - Catherine loathes Christmas

• 02:50 - Leering snowman on the roof

• 04:15 - Catherine's Childhood Santa photo trauma

• 07:22 - James's Mom gave great gifts

• 07:41 - The 40-year-old Legos

• 08:30 - "Christmas comes but once a year..."

• 09:30 - James is a titanium trendsetter

• 10:13 - Ravioli is better than Christmas (says Catherine)

• 11:15 - RISD Alumnus rant

• 11:53 - What the hell is a "proof point"?

• 12:45 - Capacity, branding, and RISD exclusivity

• 15:50 - Catherine and department store windows

• 17:50 - Robot Ai-Da is a poet/artist/printer

• 18:30 - Allegedly deeply emotive algorithms

• 19:10 - Let's not shit on Ai-Da (no, let's)

• 20:00 - Catherine reads alleged poem

• 20:52 - YouTube is a deep dive for Catherine

• 21:25 - Creation vs curation vs programming

• 22:45 - Gendering of a garbage bag

• 24:00 - James is a robot

• 25:31 - Catherine questions efficacy of AI

• 26:26 - James explains "humans are not smart"

• 27:38 - "Meaty" substrate vs consciousness?

• 28:54 - "AI" movie was sad and creepy

• 29:30 - Catherine's phone is "Hellbound"

• 30:30 - Susan's phone besieged by "The Beatles"

• 32:00 - Data points and monetization

• 34:10 - Bob Dylan's art show

• 37:40 - Was there ever a young Dylan?

• 38:30 - Lateral thumb on celebrity "art"

• 39:24 - The 'Super Bowl' of the 'Art World': Miami Art Week

• 39:31 - "No."

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• 00:20 - Dr. Mischa Cohen Peck

• 00:35 - Mischa explains Eye Movement Desensitization Reprocessing (EMDR) therapy

• 02:40 - Psychoactive drug therapy

• 03:14 - Timothy (not Thomas) Leary

• O4:00 - Activism, Act Up, Queer Nation

• 05:17 - Drugs are not a path to authenticity

• 09:05 - Trans identity and pronouns

• 09:27 - The false dichotomy of binary

• 09:40 - Replace "or" with "and" to expand!

• 11:31 - Labeling in "reaction to" binary construct

• 14:45 - Critical thinking breeds empathy

• 15:48 - Mischa's "super power"?

• 17:10 - Adapting to more expansive thinking

• 19:55 - "Gender is nothing and everything"

• 20:47 - Facts exist AND can evolve

• 21:24 - Epigenetic download, observation, survival

• 23:15 - Education and critical thinking

• 25:05 - CriticalThinking.org

• 29:26 - Brain Operating System and 'manufacture's defects'

• 34:08 - Fear is a 4-letter word

• 35:40 - Brain as unreliable witness

• 39:00 - Deep conversations or (and) great meds?

• 40:00 - Gender affirming surgery = ego-integration

• 41:26 - When Catherine met Mischa

• 43:00 - Love, be loved, born for connection

• 45:00 - Younger generation disconnect?

• 48:22 - James is the "get off my lawn" guy!

• 51:56 - "Nothing has meaning except the meaning you give it" (Thanks Hector)

• 53:13 - "Marlena Miata", stick-shift (of course), "2NonQ"

• 59:00 - Bat shit crazy as diagnosis?

• 1:02:40 - Trans-generational transmission of trauma and family connection

• 1:03:58 - Three random questions in closing

• 1:04:17 - Shout out to Manny!

• 1:05:37 - Dog person, cat tolerant!

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• 00:14 - James controls knobs

• 00:40 - Reminder: James attended RISD

• 01:12 - Phoenix looks rode hard and half closed

• 01:40 - Easley's Magic Shop and John Fitzsimmons

• 04:25 - Catherine is the boss and James makes terrible coffee

• 05:15 - Keurig regifting

• 06:30 - Coffee grinders, burrs, and chunks

• 08:00 - Old plumbing hates coffee grounds?

• 08:24 - Garbage disposals are barbaric

• 10:34 - Detritus in library books

• 10:57 - Best ArtNews article ever!

• 12:45 - Book time capsules left behind

• 13:30 - Someone discarded James's piles

• 14:30 - Books are tactile and personal

• 15:31 - A second-hand Bhagavad Gita

• 17:01 - Do Kindle books have titles?

• 18:34 - "Archaeological work of sentimentality"

• 20:45 - Bead Museum library collection

• 23:17 - No discussing K drama!

• 24:10 - Catherine isn't listening

• 27:17 - Thrift store film missed opportunity

• 29:03 - James eyes "The Matrix"

• 29:56 - Listeners Gratitude Moment(s)!

• 30:07 - Ing's words from Malaysia

• 31:38 - Thoughts from Kim in Colorado

• 32:18 - Cheryl wrote in from Phoenix!

• 32:28 - Heather's comments from Chandler

• 32:58 - Susan's gratitude

• 33:31 - Is Tucson international or 'sub-local'?

• 34:04 - Jim retires!

• 34:45 - Chris starts his career

• 34:57 - Jess crashes into Harry Styles concert

• 35:40 - Ing will sew in 2022

• 36:10 - James appreciates Malinda

• 36:45 - Catherine is grateful for pizza crust and wrote a poem

• 38:17 - Podcast gratitude, thanks to guests!

• 39:15 - Dim sum, Cracker Barrel, no turkey

• 40:47 - Keurig cup 3-D art thing rambling

• 41:37 - Thanks for listening!

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• 00:02 - Welcome writer and poet DJ Leary

• 00:45 - James "don't" do words well

• 01:06 - How DJ met Catherine

• 02:00 - DJ inspired at Shakespeare's Globe

• 04:00 - Street performance typewriter

• 04:37 - The "COVID Project 7-year novel"

• 05:24 - Creating characters is complicated!

• 06:00 - Post English degree creativity

• 07:17 - Schools fall short for creative endeavors

• 08:29 - Lack of critical thinking

• 09:02 - Nobody can teach the artistic process

• 09:50 - "New Slam In Town", Ghost Poetry Show

• 10:57 - Kaiti Pritchett Slam Poet

• 12:18 - Academic poetry turns off a generation

• 13:50 - Console vs PC gaming

• 14:50 - Catherine nods off during gaming convo

• 15:33 - iPhone gaming and cruise ship quotas

• 17:43 - James dates himself with "Doom"

• 18:57 - The "gamer history eye roll"

• 19:22 - Film Bar is back, same location!

• 19:58 - Club Dwntwn hosts "Poetic Soul"

• 20:30 - DJ's sci-fi novel

• 21:09 - Just wear your phone on your face

• 22:15 - We are the Brave New World Borg

• 22:42 - Consumption, overstimulation, distraction

• 24:00 - My phone is my universe, and is boring

• 27:00 - DJ's busy life and social media

• 31:04 - Instagram and visual art

• 31:40 - Twitter is a writer's resume

• 33:30 - Unplugged anonymity is a luxury

• 34:00 - Analog nostalgia vs digital complexity

• 40:30 - Moving beyond a flash of brilliance

• 43:20 - "Train I Ride", Paul Mosier

• 44:13 - Middle ground on Myers-Briggs I/O scale

• 45:57 - DJ's Poet Pick: T.S. Eliot

• 49:00 - Cutting the Arts won't save a failed educational system

• 51:07 - DJ and James fix global climate change

• 52:05 - Pro Pigeon Party

• 56:45 - DJ reads "Scarecrow, Road-trip, Clay"

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• 00:10 - New intro music is a tone

• 01:00 - It's after Halloween and jeans are stupid

• 02:04 - Science is not a "man thing"

• 02:24 - James labels Catherine

• 02:55 - Talking "Squid Game" spoilers

• 03:47 - James's disbelief not suspended

• 04:30 - Catherine watched "Squid Game" twice

• 04:43 - Kang Sae-byeok (067) (HoYeon Jung) is favorite character

• 05:37 - Catherine's Korean sucks

• 06:34 - "In-your-face" odd visual experience

• 07:00 - James prefers aesthetics of "Foundation"

• 07:54 - Squid Game is rigged game?

• 08:41 - "001" absolute POS

• 11:04 - Stupid BBC article title - "No Squid Game Halloween costumes, New York schools say"

• 13:25 - "Office Jason" horrified Catherine

• 15:27 - "Tiananmen Tank Guy"

• 16:48 - "Squid Game" uplifting message

• 20:00 - Hunger Games v Squid v high school

• 24:00 - Artist Christmas gift ideas and duds (mostly duds)

• 27:28 - MasterClass.com

• 29:20 - Don't give books to artists

• 30:30 - Aprons and Bob Ross cups

• 33:45 - Moving on from oyster shells

• 36:57 - Just get the Apple pencil

• 38:19 - Creative people need paper

• 41:15 - Don't frame bad art

• 42:30 - Screen printing kit is James's best idea!

• 43:40 - Scratch board helps with shadows

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• 00:20 - Welcome Ing Yeen!

• 01:20 - Hardcore gamers, inner farmers

• O2:20 - James on fashion

• 03:04 - Photojournalist and fashion dreams

• 03:15 - Ing "went for it" 2013 Seoul Fashion Week

• 04:10 - Don't wait to do anything!

• 06:00 - Ing breaks down Fashion Week

• 07:00 - Ing is a one-man show

• 09:00 - Newbies & K-pop fans get in the way

• 10:57 - After party: food and random celebrities

• 12:30 - "Fashion blur" (after 30 shows)

• 13:43 - Celebrity-centric K-pop designs

• 14:44 - Will James be a mistaken superstar?

• 16:36 - James and the foreign front row face

• 19:40 - Rude people photo bomb Ing's interviews (and must die)

• 21:10 - James suggests a taser, Ing likes idea!

• 23:00 - Katherine tasing a defenseless watermelon

• 25:30 - Sewing machine vs table saw

• 27:36 - Tropic Escape helps us escape

• 28:30 - James prefers shooting games

• 29:32 - Squid Game in 5 minutes

• 33:23 - Ing cried writing gameshow subtitles!

• 34:24 - James gets his cat

• 34:49 - American language cringe moment

• 35:09 - Ing was raised on American TV

• 36:38 - "I Dream Of Jeannie" 70's flat

• 40:30 - Ing is owed retroactive goodie bags!

• 41:50 - Ing makes the world a better place!

• 42:48 - Ing is our International Tea Spiller!

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• 00:29 - Art barn body parts

• 02:37 - Crockpot and 2AM zucchini

• 05:05 - Alive artists of the week

• 05:33 - Shredded Banksy revisited

• 09:17 - Pile of painted strips

• 10:05 - A moment for the Curators

• 13:00 - Hire 160 painters for greater ROI

• 13:59 - Shatner goes full space groundhog

• 15:10 - Las Vegas Stratosphere Big Shot

• 16:25 - James's fantasy Captain Kirk

• 17:59 - "Evil Uhura" exposed midriff

• 19:05 - OG Star Trek could be painful

• 21:45 - Who's your captain?

• 22:55 - "Deep Space 9" IS a TV show

• 23:10 - Well deserved co-hosts

• 23:50 - William Merritt Chase

• 24:00 - "White Rose" AKA "Miss Jesup"

• 25:04 - James went to RISD but still has room in his heart to love Parsons too

• 26:58 - Hollywood implodes the Rose

• 27:20 - Gessoed torso found

• 28:03 - American Impressionism

• 28:24 - "Bessie Potter" portrait

• 29:20 - Masterful capturing of light

• 31:10 - History of Parsons

• 32:32 - James and the over sexed paragraph

• 34:00 - We all need a Making Space

• 39:00 - ASU has a Maker Lab

• 39:20 - COVID is still a thing

• 40:30 - Just get vaccinated

• 42:00 - Good art, bad art, COVID bashing, done

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• 01:20 - ARTnews

• O2:10 - Securitizing artwork is a stupid idea

• 04:40 - 'Art' = infinite con-game

• 05:24 - Santa Fe "Rembrandt plates"

• 06:28 - James vs extradition

• 08:48 - Scum sucking vampires

• 09:17 - Art, baseball cards, whatever

• 10:13 - Three threads of a Picasso

• 10:35 - Full-on Ferengi Fantasy

• 10:47 - Barely a Trekie

• 12:02 - Star Trek is social commentary

• 13:26 - Catherine goes to a compost pile

• 14:03 - Was it a grub?

• 14:56 - La Brea Tar Pits in an alley

• 15:30 - Next time go to Costco

• 16:25 - Pills vs horse paste vs science

• 18:24 - Scariest stuff is real life

• 19:44 - "Do our own research"

• 21:15 - Spain is open!

• 22:28 - Why flip a coin? Get vaccinated!

• 22:35 - Artist of the Week - Cinta Vidal

• 23:42 - MC Escher with humanity https://mcescher.com

• 24:40 - Want to live inside her painting

• 25:30 - James channels Tina Fey

• 27:00 - "Escher-esque", not derivative

• 28:28 - No camping in compost

• 30:00 - Internet lacks horror, Goya delivers

• 30:24 - "Saturn Devouring His Son", Goya

• 31:00 - Mythology is confusing

• 33:48 - This is horror in painting

• 35:17 - "The Third of May 1808", Goya

• 36:10 - Back to Cinta, end on high note

• 37:23 - Duc Vuong, MD on YouTube

• 38:42 - Skewed risk perception

• 39:32 - Dr. Kat Epidemiologist on TikTok

• 40:42 - Staying in our bubbles

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• 00:10 - James goes to the doctor and gets sick

• 02:18 - "Crap-tacular"

• 02:28 - Happy October!

• 03:00 - Chloe takes the sofa

• 04:38 - Catherine's jumping chihuahua!

• 06:28 - Cats and murder

• 07:25 - Veterinarians are the best!

• 08:17 - James is the wrong species

• 09:42 - An appointment next year

• 10:32 - Who does a doctor work for?

• 12:42 - The laundry goes on and on

• 13:43 - Marie Kondo who?

• 14:28 - The "zero joy" sponge

• 15:00 - "Capsule wardrobe" is the term

• 17:27 - Everyone wants to smash Catherine's phone

• 19:24 - Buried paintings and books

• 19:44 - Subtle Heatstroke Podcast plug!

• 19:48 - Taliban Twitter?

• 21:10 - 1980's England "Crying Child" paintings

• 21:43 - Well written "spooky" article

• 22:48 - LED eyes

• 24:52 - How do we make a spooky painting?

• 26:10 - We are brains in vats

• 26:36 - Algorithms and faces everywhere

• 27:33 - People love spooky stuff

• 28:14 - Danish museum wants its money back

• 28:56 - 3000 Euros for "Kabul" time!

• 30:06 - "Take The Money And Run"

• 32:40 - Put your money where your clock is

• 33:15 - Cleo barks

• 33:32 - Cleo's walk of shame

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• 00:14 - Life of a podcaster, always dull never off

• 00:20 - Catherine had a container

• 00:56 - Why are you looking at your phone?

• 01:32 - Let's talk about the art!

• 01:37 - Deconstructing the Arts Insider article

• 01:45 - Finding the art online

• 02:12 - Is invisible art hard art? Or just hard to understand?

• 02:29 - Conning someone into buying your work?

• 02:34 - This is worth $100. No $10,000!

• 02:52 - $30k is so accessible

• 03:15 - Prius is too small for Catherine's needs

• 03:45 - Fred Flintstone and the Mustang

• 03:49 - A Prius is definitely not a Mustang

• 04:10 - Disintegrating Mustang, welcome to Ford

• 04:24 - 2020 art market down, online buying up

• 04:45 - No more galleries for James

• 05:00 - Important to see the work in person

• 05:25 - Jessica Silverman's "Hayal Pozanti"

• 06:24 - Art interaction and energetic field

• 08:40 - Art on Instagram

• 09:10 - Revisiting "Virtual Phoestivus 2020"

• 10:09 - Can't compete against Netflix!

• 10:45 - Acceleration of pandemic trends

• 12:36 - James is on Pixels.com

• 14:42 - TikTok delivery experience

• 15:05 - Pins are a big thing these days

• 15:27 - Deconstructing the "unboxing thing"

• 18:48 - NFTs and how collecting is different

• 20:00 - Circling back to garbage "Art-ivists"

• 22:15 - Tan Zi Xi's "Plastic Ocean"

• 22:29 - "Disney-ification" of a message?

• 24:17 - Recycled items are a medium vs activism

• 26:00 - 40 year old copper pipe bracelets

• 28:38 - Don't cancel James for this bad ideas

• 28:56 - Soylent Green is people

• 29:27 - Robert Bradford plastic sculpture

• 31:27 - James is a "thing person"

• 32:07 - Garbage vs collectible

• 33:05 - Switchboard shelving unit

• 34:30 - House flipping lessons learned

• 35:18 - Salvaging old growth teak boxes

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WORKS - On paper

• Awful print

• Outdoor

• Sky Cathedral

• Column

SHOW NOTES - 00:12 - Bacon forgeries

• 01:18 - Is Colbert listening to SubRant?

• 01:28 - Catherine eats 'fake' bacon

• 02:30 - The "googling" of Rick Steves

• 04:05 - Inspiration from garbage

• 04:35 - Clothing landfills in Africa

• 05:44 - Recycled clothing into art

• 06:24 - Let's just talk about Louise Nevelson

• 07:20 - Repeatedly pronouncing "assemblage"

• 08:37 - Everyone is credited with influencing Abstract Expressionism

• 08:46 - Deconstructing "The Scream" - A "really off" Van Gogh

• 09:24 - Do you have an Xbox?

• 10:25 - Honing endoscopy skills via Halo?

• 10:45 - James's wife hides from the aliens

• 11:05 - Catherine borders on nihilistic

• 12:03 - Compelling monochromatic boxy work

• 13:02 - Inspiration: Mannequins from garbage

• 16:40 - Scale is everything

• 17:30 - Protective patina of COR-TEN steel

• 18:15 - Nevelson created her world

• 19:48 - Vertical pieces, rhythm, "Seventh Decade Garden 9 & 10"

• 20:21 - Master of Composition

• 20:40 - Between interior design and fine art

• 21:02 - The environment and rectilinear border

• 21:22 - Can you really do this?

• 21:37 - Some recycled "art" looks like garbage

• 22:20 - Would take years to level up

• 23:07 - New York was her palette

• 23:20 - Art stores are overwhelming & sterile

• 23:56 - James is drawn to found items

• 24:30 - From the ground of Vegas parking lot

• 25:10 - Boxes of stuff with no purpose

• 25:21 - TikTok found object artist/geologist

• 26:23 - James just wants to cut up graham cracker boxes

• 26:40 - Saving Lays potato chip bags

• 27:30 - Non-recyclable flexible plastic/metal food packaging

• 29:00 - Palm tree torsos?

• 29:55 - You need to get dirty for your art!

• 30:24 - Rewinding to Nevelson

• 30:40 - Comparing Nevelson to Rothko

• 33:03 - Roots in Cubism

• 33:27 - Diego Rivera, pre-Columbian influence

• 34:07 - Representative of their time

• 34:34 - Does gender-bias exist in art?

• 35:15 - Art critic legends in our own minds

• 35:27 - Thank you for listening!

• 35:49 - "Assemblage" one more time

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• 01:29- "Joining Plastic, Glass, and Metal On the Recycle List: Fake Art" (NY Times paywall)

• 01:35 - It's not about recycling

• 01:50 - Commas trigger James

• 02:15 - Pretentious words trigger James

• 03:25 - Art world vs elites vs the masses

• 03:36 - Language as a weapon?

• 03:45 - Catherine sums article up in seconds, but they will talk about it for 20 minutes

• 04:00 - Most of the fake art is not destroyed

• 04:10 - The only recycling is that fake pieces keep showing up for sale and authentication

• 04:15 - If everyone is upset about forgeries, just destroy them!

• 04:30 - Catalogues of fakes as teaching tools

• 04:45 - If a piece has merits, does the author really matter?

• 04:56 - "Tyranny of authorship"

• 05:40 - Celebrate the work, not the author

• 06:28 - Forged pieces are stamped, retained, and potentially resurface in art world

• 07:58 - Deconstructing authentication

• 08:54 - The case of the "thrift store Pollack"

• 09:44 - It's a sleazy market

• 10:00 - Once a forgery, always a forgery?

• 10:55 - Bad stamp

• 11:30 - James holds back re: Damien Hirst

• 12:23 - Digression about makers' marks

• 13:54 - The found piece will not be destroyed

• 14:20 - Catherine has a knack!

• 15:12 - Unanswered questions

• 15:55 - Who authenticates the authenticator?

• 17:00 - James proposes a "forgery registry", Catherine suggests putting a notch in it!

• 19:12 - James approves NY Times web design

• 20:10 - What bikinis?

• 21:50 - Both Chagall's in article are forgeries

• 23:05 - Just didn't get any vibes

• 23:45 - Catherine proposes recycling ideas

• 25:00 - Authenticator's opposing specialties: Egon Schiele vs Grandma Moses

• 26:17 - Deconstructing the term "Folk Art"

• 27:00 - The genius of Grandma Moses

• 28:27 - Villeroy & Boch "Naif" pattern

• 29:00 - The term Folk Art is purely marketing

• 30:00 - Again, the work must stand on its own

• 30:12 - Training does not beget great work

• 31:50 - "Craft" is legit

• 32:25 - Catherine "paints" with fibers

• 32:43 - Affirmation is great

• 33:45 - Was this an angry podcast?

• 34:05 - Next week, Louise Nevelson and a discussion of "recycling" in art

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Comparing works, overcoming blindspots, seeking consensus on Basquait and Rockwell Visit our website to see the artwork we discuss this episode

SHOW NOTES - 00:05 - Christopher is back

• 00:20 - Never say never about Basquiat

• 00:48 - It's easy to enable James' bad ideas

• 01:00 - "Art Off Octagon": Basquiat v Rockwell

• 01:25 - Catherine loosely introduces Basquiat

• 01:48 - James seriously describes Rockwell

• 02:30 - Comparing works, overcoming blindspots, seeking consensus

• 02:49 - Catherine gets roasted for her first impression of Rockwell's "Glen Canyon Dam" as Cowboy Art!

• 03:50 - Basquiat's "Beef Ribs Longhorn" actually reads as "cowboy"!

• 04:41 - Catherine chose specific Basquiat works as foils to James' Rockwell selections

• 06:48 - Catherine agrees with James' critique, and admits to tuning out anything remotely reminiscent of Cowboy Art

• 08:10 - Did Rockwell "punk" the Department of Interior with this commissioned piece?

• 08:40 - Christopher dissects the political undertones of the piece

• 09:10 - Delving deeper into the paintings negative images and birds of prey

• 11:12 - Criteria 1: First Impression

• 11:39 - Criteria 2: Evoke feeling

• 12:02 - Criteria 3: Use of medium

• 12:23 - Criteria 4: Representative of time period in which it was created

• 12:30 - Nobody likes the birds! (Except James, but no one listens to him)

• 13:20 - Criteria 5: Would you hang this on your wall?

• 13:45 - Catherine describes Basquiat's "Beef Ribs Longhorn", not rib-eye

• 15:40 - The words in piece imply "doom"

• 16:13 - Deconstructing 1980's aliens, butcher shops and the words

• 17:17 - The cow is sad

• 18:54 - Catherine sees different themes, James sees no poetic narrative

• 19:50 - Christopher described how these two works are similar

• 21:17 - James remains unconvinced

• 21:23 - Lack of framing evokes rawness

• 22:15 - The survey says, Catherine and Christopher would hang it on their wall

• 25:32 - James steps away, Christopher and Catherine decide that continuing this exercise will yield similar results

• 25:47 - Is comparison fair or necessary?

• 27:30 - The conclusions remain the same

• 28:08 - Basquiat's "raw punch" vs Rockwell's focus on detail

• 28:30 - Basquiat's "Untitled 1982" vs Rockwell's " The Connoisseur"

• 28:37 - How would Basquiat have evolved?

• 30:02- "The Connoisseur" is and is not a Jackson Pollock

• 32:57 - One more. James passionately describes Rockwell's "Lost In Paris" as a "10"

• 35:50 - Complex emotion vs raw emotion

• 36:26 - Rockwell's "New Kids In The Neighborhood"

• 39:40 - Rockwell exits The Octagon

• 40:20 - Any Basquiat for Catherine's wall

• 40:59 - "What could have been" with Basquiat?

• 42:10 - A trio of art nerds

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• 00.03 - Good Morning Christopher

• 00.26 - James can leave anytime

• 01:20 - Cleo and Phoenix Cat bake themselves

• 01:56 - This is not a cat show, it's about art!

• 02:07 - James insists on discussing "Gene-Michael Basket"

• 02:56 - Catherine just likes the hair

• 03:06 - James finds zero resonance in the consistent scribble

• 04:15 - Christopher relives discovering Basquiat in Venice Beach

• 04:27 - Basquiat Doc Marten's don't cost millions

• 05:00 - Christopher discusses Brooklyn graffiti and Phoenix murals

• 06:05 - SAMO: Same Old Bullshit

• 07:55 - Tagging walls, developing his style

• 09:00 - Youthful angst and "Irony of a Negro Policeman"

• 09:00 - James feels bullied

• 10:30 - Dadaism explains it all

• 11:00 - "Self Portrait" 1984, Acrylic and oil stick on paper

• 12:00 - "Riding With Death" 1988, Acrylic, crayon, canvas

• 12:37 - Heroine-house field trip

• 13:25 - Dio de los Muertes and Catherine's skeleton study

• 14:30 - James remains unconvinced and unimpressed

• 17:06 - Film "Basquiat", 1996

• 17:46 - Enveloped into the Factory

• 18:20 - Warhol, the "King of Marketing"

• 19:00 - It's celebrity vs the work, benefactors vs "smack schmuck"

• 19:40 - James remains unconnected to Basquiat's work

• 20:07 - Sotherby's marketing: "How Jean-Michel Basquiat Turned Art History on Its Head"

• 20:25 - Christopher admits to being a "heavy doodler"

• 21:27 - James agrees with Basquiat on painting/sketching continuum

• 22:06 - James likes the "heads", finally says something nice!

• 22:50 - Lots of balls in his work

• 23:45 - Catherine remains "sucked in" after 20 yrs

• 24:29 - Galleries of New York City vs. James approval

• 25:30 - Christopher's philosophy on "drug-influenced art"

• 27:20 - James deconstructs art politics and how artists are "chosen"

• 29:48 - The calculated wrath of SAMO "Jean-Michel Basquiat and the Birth of SAMO"

• 31:35 - James scores a "fake it til you make it" point

• 32:40 - Christopher brings it home with Al Diaz

• 36:40 - More to discuss on Basquiat, Catherine can't stop

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• Catherine's dog died

• The ghost of Catherine's dog is haunting their house

• Banksy-shmaksy

• "Doom Scroller"

• Catherine's ass twitches

• James is writing a screenplay

• Catherine is the ship

• Delusions of grandeur

• Fete de comple

• Creepy dolls

• Omega Man

• I Am Legend

• Spray-cation (BBC)

• "Artcaster"

• The Internet sucks

• We like Banksy

• Whimsy

• Banksy is like a Yeti

• Graffiti behind plexiglass...

• Asshole teddybears

• Stolen Banksy

• Jean-Michel Basquiat

• Theater in Quarantine - Joshua William Gelb

• Mime, dance, theater? Yes.

• Documentation of the pandemic

• New York Times has the best web design

• In the red zone

• Mask forever

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• How's your ass?

• The cheek of it: artists celebrate the bottom

• Is it cute or really terrible?

• Where's the photocopied butt?

• Catherine is triggering James. On purpose. And repeatedly.

• TikTok for all things

• Dr Kat, Epidemiologist

• NSCU College of Design

• Are there still Life Coaches out there?

• Code Art Rooted In An Unlikely Era: The 1960s

• Casey Reas http://reas.com

• Congratulations, you invented the screensaver

• Sol LeWitt

• Artspeak

• Are instructions art?

• Ansel Adams's process

• James wins a point

• A struggle for dominance

• Forbes? What the hell?

• White Male Artist Wants To Know If You'll Buy His $HT NFTs.

• Litteral, canned shit

• Probably a ferret

• Gold and shit and Fox News

• Tucker Carlson IS WMA

• James doubts that WMA understands ‘intimacy'

• The gatekeepers are really, really stupid

• Don't read the comments

• Rock star painter

• Gene Simmons

• "Making art in secret"

• Gene vs Hunter

• "Someone needs a punch"

• Man-Tiger

• There's no stopping Catherine

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• Can James sell his work for $500k?

• Hunter Biden in now an "Artist"

• "Never would have been better"

• George Berges

• Gallerists is a dumb and pretentious word

• Sylvester Stallone's paintings

• Xeo Chu - Vietnam's Jackson Pollock

• "Artistic abuse"

• This is not art

• William Powhida discusses Hunter's "art"

• Don't anger the Gallerists Gods

• To cover a bad spakle job

• Catherine is getting high, not James

• Let's ride the Biden name!

• Art dealers undermine US sanctions on Russia

• You're not buying Hunter's art, you're buying influence

• Vomiting on canvas

• Huner is NOW comfortable calling himself an artist

• Art is like crypto currency

• Put Hunter in a corner, or send him to Guantanamo Bay

• We can't say the word pseudonymously or remember how to say nom de plume

• May not be illegal, but is totally immoral

• Privilege

• Catherine says kudos too many times

• Walter Shaub on Hunter's art sale "the perfect mechanism for funneling bribes"

• Is Stephen Colbert listening to our show?

• James likes painting and money so buy his paintings. For money.

• Artisanally crafting a Ford

• Catherine should listen to our podcast

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• Ken Clark

• Ranked Choice Voting

• Voter Choice Arizona

• Phoestivus

• Hipster Santa

• Phoestivus Ale

• Green Guinness

• Billionaires in Space

• Whitey on the Moon

• Catherine's knitted wonders

• Can Floridians count? (Cyber Ninjas)

• Partisan Recount

• Clear Ballot Group

• Replaying Bosnia

• Redistricting

• Terry Goddard

• Arizona "Re-election"?

• Al Franken

• Matt Gaetz

• Roy Moore

• Meditation

• "Full Q"

• Debunking requires patients

• Garrett Archer (election tracking)

• Better slogans

• Shared connections - we don't trust corporations

• Justice Scalia - Democracy requires transparency

• Criteria for redistricting

• Communities of Interest

• Competitive districts

• Smaller districts?

• Recounting the partisan recount

• Overpacking the Voting Rights Act districts

• "Starving the Beast"

• Modernizing the Tax Code

• Bill 1516

• Americans for Puppies and Apple Pie

• Dark Money in school boards

• Yassamin Ansari

• Leave your campsite cleaner than you found it

• "Click of the Mouse" theory

• Crazy conspiracies are more fun than real conspiracies

• Dogs!

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• How many bikes does James have?

• Infinite bikes

• Minnesota's horrible winters and horrible summers

• Catherine doesn't like mosquitoes

• The Maine mosquitoes are coming for James

• Deep Woods Off!

• "Family sized" cereal is a scam

• James falls for the mountain bike

• The kind of pain you can tolerate

• Knitting - A Competitive Sport for Catherine

• "Hardcoring it"

• The spa ride ruins Catherine

• Roadies vs Mountain Bikers

• The Jenny story

• James treats everyone like an equestrian

• Catherine's blue tricycle

• Catherine rides into the Christmas Tree

• Bikes are expensive

• Catherine regrets giving up her Schwinn

• Bikes aren't gendered

• Catherine knows neither how many mannequins she has nor why she has so many

• Gershel Bros used retail fixtures

• A pregnant mannequin

• Jungian Archetypes

• Easley's Fun Shop

• John Fitzsimmons on Heat Stroke

• Pinkie

• Dead toe shoes

• Buddhism does not justify invisible art

• Picaso's bull paintings

• Extended to its illogical conclusion

• No need for realism after photography?

• Art is represented of nothing. Well that's a helpful argument

• Invisible con job

• Photography is its own abstraction

• James educates the audience on photographic technique

• Catherine left her notes at home

• James's wife gives their son's teacher a migraine

• A bicycle riding a mannequin

• Where do mannequins end and humans begin?

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• Getting high to make real estate art

• Leafly supporting local artist

• The Artist Tree art gallery / dispensary in LA

• Rice pudding takes out Catherine's dog down

• James is trying to care

• Are chihuahuas actually dogs?

• Invoking the name of Christ will stop alien abductions

• Catherine isn't Korean or Jewish, but that's how James sees her

• CE4 Research Group?

• Are aliens really just demons?

• Born-Again Vampires

• Catherine is wearing a mask

• James explains plosives and pop filters

• "Punching the mic"

• $30 microphone

• "Midgression"

• Why would an alien come for you:

• • 1. You asked for it
• • 1. You opened the door through being open to new-age thinking
• • 1. You have no godly cover

• Original Sin is weird

• "Am I triggered enough yet?"

• Moth Man, Marian Apparitions, and Aliens

• Harbingers

• Qanon has replaced alien abductions

• Alex Jones is an alien robot who doesn't quite pass the Uncanny Valley test

• Law school?

• No AC in the Pacific North West

• Point of honor NOT having an AC

• No "open window" time in Catherine's house

• The blessed dryness of Phoenix

• Poor French mom trying to iron all the jeans

• James gets reported for not wearing an ironed shirt

• James climate-shames Catherine for driving an SUV

• Balance your own Chakras

• Minivan vs SUV

• Ford Transit Connect

• Weird import laws on beads and vans

• Catherine just want's a backup camera

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• Ghosts?

• Maybe Somewhat pregnant

• Sleepy Joe seems not so sleepy

• Catherine's haunted college apartment

• "Top-tier ghosting place"

• Movers in college? Princess.

• The ghost is angry that Catherine is leaving

• Alien abductions stoped, we're too busy on our phones to notice

• "I never had a vibe for aliens"

• James's ghost story

• "A fun thing to believe in."

• UFO report

• "Their pilot planes"

• Alien pirates

• Seeded from aliens

• Tesseract

• We don't rate high enough for the aliens to get out and talk to us

• James loves quilts

• James explains Instagram

• Instagram, no one wants to see your fail videos

• "Smaesh"

• Instagram is a visual database of the world

• Doing design research with Instagram

• As terrible as Instagram is, it is still a great portfolio platform

• Trying to Instagram with a Twitter mindset

• Volkswagen Trek edition

• "Homogenize would be the word"

• TikTok wedding photography

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• When will the heat drive Catherine out of Phoenix?

• Rumors of an aquifer

• Lawns are dumb

• Embrace your Phoenix

• Stranger Things isn't Korean but is Catherine watching anyway

• Pirate podcast from Costco

• Catherine is just crazy enough to actually do it

• Seoul Market remembers Catherine

• Blah Blah Blah - a traditional Korean side dish

• Flushing Twitter

• Catherine, the retired Twitter star

• "UnTweeting"

• Rewriting your journal

• A closet minimalist

• Sara Cooper is a liar

• Catherine's Twitter Poetry...

• "To go bag" or "Go Bag"? Yes Catherine, there is a difference

• Art is not in the eye of the beholder

• Tim Johnson on Heat Stroke

• Meditative Arts Gallery

• "Psychic or otherwise"

• Lets be honest, First Fridays are kind of half-assed

• ArtLink could be... more optimized

• "On the way to Grand"

• Bashing ArtLink

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• The Costco meat guy accosts Catherine

• James doesn't get punched at Costco

• Hardcore scooters

• Where's the Maple Syrup?

• James misses cruising

• We're too stupid to build nice cities

• Republicans dictating policy for private property owners? What kind of world is this now?

• We were both Republicans?

• James gets deregistered

• Catherine's mail is AWOL

• Invisible art? Are we really here?

• Salvatore Garau

• "Some Italian idiot"

• Invisible art is no joke, but it was at one point

• Catherine is painting a gourd

• Catherine keeps finding body parts

• Flatulating at the camera

• "Can you sell nothing for nothing?"

• Our plan to steel the invisible art

• Duct-taping an invisible banana to the invisible Buddha, and then, of course, Catherine goes in and eats the banana

• Defacing the invisible art

• Our performance art piece: Costco Meat Guy "Am I In Your Way, Man?"

• The book that is trapped

• It's art dad, it's ART!

• Catherine forces James to turn off his phone

• High art is the lowest form of communication

• Ass twitch

• It's Okay To Not Be Okay

• James loves TikTok

• Let the interns do it

• Knock-knock, anyone in there?

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• What is this podcast about?

• Don't take Costco For granted

• Pandemic musings

• Band Aides

• Turning around in the strip club parking lot

• Jack Lancaster collecting trains... real trains

• Mike Swaine on Heat Stroke

• Catherine is a maximalist

• James hates architects

• We fill holes

• How many passwords are enough?

• Onepass and LastPass

• Don't pay Verizon

• Imagine a Millennial trying to write a check

• Deconstructing Catherine

• Catherine has many baskets

• Catherine learns to shoot a gun

• Open carry salad making

• James's favorite gun is the Void's Tear

• How confused do I look now

• Tropic Escape

• Catherine checks into the island occasionally

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• The COVID nothing

• There is only one episode of Seinfeld

• Our thoughts on Andy Warhol

• Within five minutes, Catherine deconstructed Warhol (at age 10)

• 15 minutes of fame but only 15 seconds of interest

• Performance art is neither art nor performance

• James Turrell

• James defines art

• Cleo barks

• Catherine's favorite artist... well, beads

• Personal adornment, a personal and emotional connection

• Is comedy art?

• Art is now just a brand

• The art world is rotten from the top down

• Barby and GI Joe and gender

• Tom Sellek is the perfect man

• James's beard walks off set