Join hosts Kiran Krishnan and Dr. Nicole Beurkens as they explore the complex and mysterious community of microorganisms that live in, on, and around us in search of the continual betterment of our health in the Better Biome Podcast. We discuss the microbiome as well as many other different kinds of biomes that make up the world around you.
Join us as we discuss Alitura Skincare with Andy Hnilo.
As you’ll learn in the episode, Andy came to skincare by way of a nearly fatal accident that left him scarred all over. His commitment to healing landed him in the world of healing skin care products. He shares insight about some of the best ingredients for healing scars, keeping the skin hydrated and protected. He talks about the challenges with skincare products on the shelves today and why it’s important to find products that help the body, not overload it with harsh chemicals and filler ingredients.
Kiran shares a bit about the skin microbiome and Andy brings the conversation to a close with an important reminder that our skin is our largest organ and therefore worth investing in.
Episode Takeaways:
Alitura sources completely natural, from the earth ingredients like:
Problem with Ingredients:
What we put on our bodies is just as important as what we put in our bodies
The skin is one of the most shared microbiomes
Andy’s skincare routine:
Dermaroll 1-3 times per week - increases blood flow
Apply a mask
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Join us as we discuss Kambo Medicine Therapy with Todd Shipman.
So what is Kambo and why are we talking about it? Kambo is a non-psychoactive traditional amazonian medicine and is legal in the United States. Kambo’s secretions, while used as a defense mechanism, and deadly to most animals, provide many health benefits for humans. The secretion is then applied through superficial burns that are made into the skin. Our interest in Kambo, aside from its wide ranging applications, lies in the positive effects on the microbiome.
While more studies are needed in this area of Kambo research, many people with gut issues, Lyme, parasites, constipation, SIBO, stress etc. find immense relief in their symptoms when they do Kambo. Some find relief after one session and some do it a couple of times a year.
Episode Takeaways:
What is Kambo?
It is considered non-psychoactive
It is applied fresh off of the frog on to the person's skin
Historical use
How is Kambo sourced?
What are the benefits?
And many more Deltorphin, Phyllokinin, Phyllomedusin, Adenoregulein, Phyllokinin, Phyllocarulein, Caerulein and Sauvagine and more…
Many people with health challenges like lyme, parasites, addiction, depression, anxiety, fertility, fatigue, and stress experience improvements after using Kambo
Dosing
What is the mechanism?
Endocrine system
Microbiome benefits - there are 5 peptides that seem to benefit the microbiome
What is the ceremony or experience like?
Meditate on goals
A small dot to burn to expose skin is applied to a designated area
How can someone find a safe Kambo practice
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Join us as we discuss the health and economic impact of our food system with Mark Hyman.
Dr. Hyman highlights the startling economic burden of chronic disease driven by Big Food’s ultraprocessed diet that kills 11 million people every year and makes 60 percent of Americans sick with a chronic disease. Food Fix maps out a new food system that can improve public health and save trillions of dollars every year. The other major aspects to this discussion are saving our environment & climate and challenging politics, social injustice, & information wars. There are small and manageable things we can all do in our daily lives to contribute to this change.
About guest:
Dr. Mark Hyman is leading a health revolution—one revolved around using food as medicine to support longevity, energy, mental clarity, happiness, and so much more. Dr. Hyman is a practicing family physician and an internationally recognized leader, speaker, educator, and advocate in the field of Functional Medicine. He is the founder and director of The UltraWellness Center, the Head of Strategy and Innovation of the Cleveland Clinic Center for Functional Medicine, a fourteen-time New York Times bestselling author, and Board President for Clinical Affairs for The Institute for Functional Medicine. He is the host of one of the leading health podcasts, The Doctor’s Farmacy. Dr. Hyman is a regular medical contributor on several television shows and networks, including CBS This Morning, Today, Good Morning America, The View, and CNN. He is also an advisor and guest co-host on The Dr. Oz Show.
Episode Highlights:
What are the top issues within the food system today?
Who benefits from the current food system?
What can individuals and families do to help the change?
Bring composting to PTA meetings at schools to see if they can change their food waste habits in the cafeteria
foodfixbook.com is the website, and you can go see the Citizen Action Guide and the policy action guide
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Join us as we discuss a holistic approach to treating anxiety and depression with Dr. Peter Bongiorno. Did you know you can get depressed and anxious from not pooping everyday? Or not getting enough fatty acids and fiber in your diet? As evidenced by the growing research, our current lifestyle, foods we're eating, the stressors we have, the lack of sleep, and the lack of exercise are major causes of mental health issues. Brain function is directly related to what’s going on in the gut, so when we make improvements to the gut microbiome, sleep, movement routine etc. we see major improvements in mental health and clarity.
Dr. Peter Bongiorno graduated from Bastyr University after completing five years of medical training in naturopathic medicine and acupuncture. He authored Healing Depression: Integrated Naturopathic & Conventional Treatments, the first comprehensive textbook designed to teach physicians how to use the science and art of natural medicine to heal depression. Dr. Bongiorno is vice president of the New York Association of Naturopathic physicians, a member of the American Association for Naturopathic Physicians, Physicians for Social Responsibility, and has a diploma in acupuncture. He helped create the first elective Natural and Integrative Medicine Class at the Mount Sinai School of Medicine, and regularly guest lectures to medical students about natural medicine and acupuncture. He has been regularly interviewed on national and local television as a natural medicine expert, and writes for national media. He regularly writes articles for the Dr. Oz and Sharecare websites, and as an invited expert blogger at Psychology Today. Dr. Bongiorno is also a major contributor to the third and fourth editions of the Textbook of Natural Medicine.
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Episode Takeaways:
Holistic approach to managing mental health
Causes of this mental health epidemic
Is anxiety the beginning of a snowball effect for mental health?
How does trauma affect mental health?
How brain function relates to the health of the gut microbiome
Fundamentals of mental health when treating a patient
Why do we sleep?
Can acupuncture be helpful?
Why is pooping everyday important for mood and mental health?
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Our guest this week is Dr. Marvin Singh.
Join us as we discuss how to reduce inflammation in the gut, thereby reducing inflammation throughout the body. Dr. Singh came to medicine in a more conventional sense and felt frustrated at the amount of inflammatory issues he was seeing in patients but wasn’t treating successfully. It was his incessant curiosity that led him to a more holistic and integrative way of treating patients. We talk about how the gut microbiome can affect inflammation in the whole body and how you can reverse that process by making small changes over time.
Dr. Marvin Singh practices Integrative Gastroenterologist in San Diego, is a diplomat of The American Board of Integrative Medicine, board-certified Internist and Gastroenterologist. Dr. Singh was trained by Dr. Andrew Weil, a pioneer in the field of Integrative Medicine at the University of Arizona Center for Integrative Medicine. Dr. Singh is currently a voluntary Assistant Clinical Professor at UCSD in the Department of Family Medicine and Public Health. He is a member of the American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine, American College of Lifestyle medicine, and the True Health Initiative among many other societies. He's co-editor of the Textbook of Integrative Gastroenterology, Second Edition, and has already written several book chapters and articles.
Episode Takeaways:
Acute vs. Chronic Inflammation
Causes of inflammation
Constant fight or flight mode is harmful to your health
Poor sleep
Without the proper time to rest and reset, our body can’t work at full capacity and protect us from chronic inflammation
Not eating enough healthy real foods
Try to reduce these things a little at a time in a way that is manageable for you
Not being social with others
Microorganisms in our body can release dopamine, GABA, increase plasma levels of oxytocin
Not enough movement
Starting points for changing the way you eat:
Inspiration for change:
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Join us as we discuss the microbiome and hormone connection for women as they age. No, women do NOT have to suffer greatly through perimenopause and menopause. That’s not “normal” or “just how it is” and that’s not how it has to be. Dr. Anna Cabeca shares how she came to understand how much of the suffering in perimenopause and menopause can be eliminated with the right protocols to support your hormones and overall health.
On today’s episode, we discuss the inner workings of the vaginal microbiome and the gut microbiome and how they are directly related to hormones. Dr. Cabeca tells us that if we can better support our hormones when they are going through changes, we will feel much better. You’ll learn several ways in which you can support your own journey through these stages of change. In some cases, you can even reverse early onset perimenopause or menopause.
GUEST INFO:
Dr. Anna Cabeca, a triple board-certified, Emory University trained physician and hormone expert was diagnosed with early menopause at age 38. Devastated, she set out on a personal wellness journey to reverse her menopause side effects, which resulted in her delivery of a healthy baby girl at the age of 41.
After experiencing her own health successes, Dr. Cabeca began counseling others, ultimately changing the lives of thousands of women across the globe. Her new book “The Hormone Fix” and other empowering transformation programs have helped women of all ages become their best selves again. Her successful line of all-natural products features the alkaline superfoods drink Mighty Maca® PLUS and the rejuvenating vulva cream Julva®.
EPISODE TAKEAWAYS
Reversing early Perimenopause and Menopause
Importance of the gut microbiome in perimenopause and menopause
Do not drink while you eat, let your stomach acid do its thing!
So the biggest takeaways are intermittent fasting, healthy fats, healthy protein, lots of greens
Importance of the vaginal microbiome in perimenopause and menopause
Tampon trauma, using dehydrating soaps, sprays, and feminine washes all disrupt our vaginal microbiome
Many of the products will dehydrate, will cause further irritation, and can have chemical sensitivities or endocrine disruptors as they are, and we have to remember the vagina is an amazing organ that has such vascularity to it. Huge blood flow, great muscle and collagen potential.
Anything we put near the vagina, the vulva, can be absorbed into the bloodstream
A product like Julva can help restore balance in the vagina as well as DHEA
Can you reverse incontinence?
EPISODE TIMESTAMPS:
00:02:04 Anna’s experience with early perimenopause
00:07:00 Importance of gut & vaginal microbiome in perimenopause and menopause
00:12:42 Don’t use products that disrupt the vaginal microbiome
00:20:38 Fasting for a better microbiome
00:23:50 Why the microbiome thrives on greens
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On today's show, we're talking with Dr. Joe Tatta about chronic pain and its connection to the gut microbiome. Dr. Joe lets us in on a variety of treatment modalities for chronic pain. As you can imagine, people who are in chronic pain are having a tough time so he recommends starting with 2-3 modalities based on what seems optimal for that individual. We cover several modalities and related topics like nutrition, FODMAP diet, probiotics, movement, devices, opioids, cannabinoids, gut microbiome, and changes in the home.
If you are a practitioner and want to explore more about this topic, Dr. Joe has created a practitioner training course for treating chronic pain.
Episode Takeaways:
Chronic Pain vs Acute Pain
Gut/Brain
Gut/Joint connection and Gut/Pain connection
Chronic pain is the #1 cause of physical disability
Nutrition
What about Cannabinoids?
What is not helpful for chronic pain?
Movement
Devices:
Household changes
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Join us as we discuss an integrative approach to Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome (PCOS) with Dr. Felice Gersh. 10% of all women have PCOS, making it the most common female endocrine disorder and cause of female infertility in the world. Women with PCOS may suffer from acne, menstrual irregularity, infertility, obesity, autoimmune disease, diabetes, and heart disease. Traditionally, doctors treat symptoms one at a time, often with a new regime of pills for each symptom or an invasive surgery. This approach never addresses the underlying causes of PCOS so women are medicated but never healed.
PCOS is not JUST a reproductive problem, there is a strong link between reproductive function and metabolic function. Dr. Gersh goes into great detail about how the two are related and how a woman with PCOS can start to make manageable changes in her life toward feeling better.
Episode Takeaways:
What is Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome?
In young girls you may see images like PCOS however they are young and their ovaries are just learning to work. A woman more in their 20s is ok to diagnosis
A PCOS Diagnosis is now defined by
PCOS is not JUST a reproductive problem
Sleep problems
Struggle with melatonin production
Tools for improving PCOS Symptoms
No dairy
Sleep! Get your circadian rhythm back on track
Either by sunlight or a a light box with 10,000 Lux
Finish eating by 7pm
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Join us as we discuss a lesser known wound care therapy with Dr. Ronald Sherman. These small but mighty creatures do really important work and won’t harm you in the slightest. They remove dead tissue from infected wounds, they even help in the case of antibiotic resistant organisms and they do so in a matter of a couple of days. They get a bad rap for being gross but actually they are quite the opposite. They are helping humans heal where modern medicine cannot. For instance, they have the potential to save someone from having their foot amputated due to diabetic foot ulcers. There are many use cases for them.
They only get a bad rap because of their association. You typically find these little creatures in the trash, scavenging on a dead animal, etc. These powerful and healing creatures are maggots.
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Episode Takeaways:
What is a maggot? 00:05:40
How do maggots help us heal? 00:09:00
Historical use 00:10:00
Why is maggot therapy not more widely used 00:14:30
Less than 2% are given a trial of maggot therapy
The research shows that 50% or more of patients with diabetic foot ulcers who are given maggot therapy as a last resort, are able to heal their wounds and do not have to get their limbs amputated. .
How do maggots control bacteria 00:20:00
How does Maggot therapy work? 00:35:38
Is it painful? 00:42:00
Interested in learning more about maggot therapy? 00:45:00
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Join us as we discuss the vaginal microbiome. Jacques explains what it is, how to support it, and what to stop doing so that you can continue to have a healthy vaginal microbiota. This is a fascinating conversation that reveals so much about what we know so far and what we have yet to learn in this unique microbiome.
Some background on Dr. Jacques Ravel, he is a professor in the Department of Microbiology and Immunology, and the Associate Director for Genomics at The Institute for Genome Sciences, University of Maryland, School of Medicine in Baltimore Maryland. Over the past 15 years, he has developed a research program focused on applying modern genomic technologies and ecological principles to characterize the role and dynamics of the microbial communities inhabiting the human body in health and disease and better define the interactions between the host, the microbes and the environment that drives these ecological systems. Specifically, he is interested in the role of the vaginal microbiome in women’s health in order to develop improved strategies to manage gynecological and obstetrics conditions.
He has published over 225 peer-reviewed publications and has attracted grant income of more than $30 million. His work is currently being translated by developing novel live microbiome-based biotherapeutic formulations targeted to restore vaginal health, treat conditions such as bacterial vaginosis, urinary tract infections and improved fertility. His work earned him to be elected to the fellowship of the American Academy of Microbiology, and in
2015, he was awarded the Blaise Pascal international research chair. He is the founder and editor-in-chief of the journal Microbiome. He joined the Institute for Genome Sciences at The University of Maryland Medical School in 2007 as an associate professor.
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Episode Takeaways:
What is the vaginal microbiome?
How does the composition of the vaginal microbiome impact a woman’s overall health?
Can lubricants affect the vaginal microbiome negatively?
What are some of the things that people are doing in day to day life that seem to be hurting the vaginal microbiome?
What can women start doing right now to help support a healthy vaginal microbiome?
Where to learn more about Dr. Jacques Ravel,
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Join us as we discuss how exposure to dirt and time in nature are essential to supporting a healthy microbiome while learning the practices behind Terrain Medicine with Dr. Maya Shetreat. Dr. Maya goes into the history and stigmas that have followed ‘germs’ over time and breaks down simple ways we can support our health by introducing our microbiomes to more diverse environments inside and outside the home.
Dr. Maya Shetreat is a neurologist, herbalist, urban farmer and author of ‘The Dirt Cure: Healthy Food, Healthy Gut, Happy Child’, which has been translated into 10 languages. She's been featured in The New York Times, The Telegraph, NPR, Sky News, The Dr. Oz Show and more. Dr. Maya is the founder of the Terrain Institute where she teaches terrain medicine, earth-based programs for transformational healing. She works and studies with indigenous communities and healers in Ecuador, and is a lifelong student of ethnobotany, plant healing, and the sacred.
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Show Notes:
What is Terrain Medicine?
Practicing Gratitude and Awe
Dirt is Not Dirty
Steps You Can Take Right Now
Look for easy swaps and be aware of what you are ingesting (diet) and the environmental factors around you (products)
Timestamps:
Episode Intro … 00:00:30
Dr. Shetreat’s Story … 00:01:30
What is Terrain Medicine? … 00:05:34
Practicing Gratitude and Awe … 00:13:00
Dirt is Not Dirty … 00:20:51
Steps You Can Take Right Now … 00:34:10
Episode Wrap-Up … 00:45:10
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Join us as we discuss trauma, nutrition, and the microbiome with post-traumatic stress expert, Dr. James Gordon. In this episode, Dr. Gordon shares his insight as a trained psychiatrist on the process of transformation towards healing trauma that people experienced in their lives.
Guest Bio
Dr. James Gordon is the author of The Transformation: Discovering Wholeness and Healing After Trauma. As the Founder and Executive Director of The Center for Mind-Body Medicine in Washington, D.C., he has created and implemented the world’s largest and most effective program for healing population-wide psychological trauma. Dr. Gordon and his 130 international faculty at The Center for Mind-Body Medicine have brought this program of self-care and group support to more than 6,000 health professionals and other communities here in the US and overseas and they, in turn, are using it in a wide variety of clinical, educational, and community-based settings.
He and his colleagues have also developed community-wide programs for refugees from wars in the Balkans, the Middle East, and Africa; for New York City firefighters and U. S. military personnel and veterans and their families; for students, parents, and teachers who have survived school shootings; for Native American children and their families; for those affected by the opioid crisis in Allegany County; and for communities in the aftermath of climate-related disasters in New Orleans and Southern Louisiana, Houston, Puerto Rico, and Sonoma, Shasta, Butte, Napa, and Siskiyou Counties. To learn more about Dr. James Gordon click here.
Episode Takeaways:
What is Trauma?
Important Components of Transformation
Nutrition’s Role in Transformation
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In this episode, Dr. Slavko Komarnytsky shares his expertise in pharmacogenomics (the study of how people respond to certain therapies based on their genetic makeup). He describes how we can use pharmacogenomics to our advantage, using polyphenols as an example of how we can change our own microbiome.
We discuss the complexities of plant microbiomes, natural antibiotics, soil, and why having even a small garden is highly beneficial to your physical and mental health. If you’ve ever wondered why eating plant-fed animals is important, Dr. Komarnytsky tells us why. Grab a vegetable, take off your shoes and go outside, and enjoy this episode!
Episode Highlights
What is Pharmacogenomics
Microbiome and Metabolic Disease
Relationship Between Bacteria and Plants
Gardening
Secondary Metabolites in Plants
Plants In The Home
Consuming Plant-fed Animals vs. Conventional Farmed Animals
Mobile Discovery Program
Guest Bio
To learn more about Slavko Komarnytsky click here.
Born in the remote wilderness of the Carpathian Mountains in Ukraine, Slavko Komarnytsky is an integrative biologist who combines expertise in botanical research and technological innovation with a commitment to reverse the worldwide trend of human metabolic and immune disorders. His scholarly work includes 70 papers that set trends in biodiscovery from natural sources, including phytochemicals such as phenolics and cannabinoids and their interaction with bitter receptors and the gut microbiome is related to health and disease. He is the Associate Professor of Pharmacogenomics at NC State University and the founder of the Mobile Discovery program that engages students and ethnic communities in global health research.
Episode Timestamps:
Episode Intro … 00:00:30
Dr. Komarnytsky’s Story … 00:02:25
What is Pharmacogenomics … 00:06:00
Microbiome and Metabolic Disease … 00:10:00
Relationship Between Bacteria and Plants … 00: 18:16
Secondary Metabolites in Plants … 00:30:33
Plants In The Home … 00:36:35
Mobile Discovery Program … 00:41:00
Episode Wrap Up … 00:47:10
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Join us as we discuss an integrative approach to dermatology and the skin microbiome with board-certified dermatologist and researcher, Dr. Raja Sivamani. In this episode, Dr. Sivamani shares how addressing key lifestyle components like diet, environment, and stress can affect our skin microbiome’s health. Learn what steps you can take to start supporting your skin’s unique microbiome and where to access key resources for skin health.
About the guest:
Dr. Raja Sivamani is a board-certified dermatologist and practices as an integrative dermatologist at Pacific Skin Institute. He is an Adjunct Associate Professor of Clinical Dermatology at the University of California, Davis, and Director of Clinical Research and the Clinical Trials Unit. He is also an Adjunct Assistant Professor in the Department of Biological Sciences at the California State University, Sacramento, and an Associate Professor of Dermatology at California Northstate University, College of Medicine. He engages in clinical practice, as well as, both clinical and translational research that integrates bioengineering, nutrition, cosmetics, and skin biology. With training in both Allopathic and Ayurvedic medicine, he takes an integrative approach to his patients and in his research. He has published over 100 peer-reviewed research manuscripts, 10 textbook chapters, and a textbook entitled Cosmeceuticals and Active Cosmetics, 3rd Edition with a passion for expanding the evidence and boundaries of integrative medicine for skincare.
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Episode Highlights
Acne
Dermveda
Ex: lactobacillus rhamnosus gg has been shown to have an effect for eczema
When looking for probiotics you really have to spend the time educating yourself
Key Takeaway
Where to learn more about Dr. Raja Sivamani...
Timestamps
Episode Intro … 00:00:30
Dr. Sivamani’s Story … 00:02:40
Ayurveda … 00:04:20
Skin and The Microbiome … 00:09:00
Acne … 00:17:30
Environment … 00:25:30
Dermveda Skin Profile … 00:27:50
Probiotic Use for Skin … 00:33:15
Key Takeaway … 00:47:15
Episode Wrap Up … 00:48:50
Join us as we discuss how the microbiome can affect women’s hormones with leading expert, Dr. Jolene Brighten. In this episode, Dr. Brighten digs into the correlations between the gut and hormonal imbalances while sharing with the audience practical takeaways on how to support their hormonal health.
Dr. Brighten is one of the leading experts in women’s medicine and is a pioneer in her exploration of the far-reaching impact of hormonal birth control and the little-known side effects that impact health in a large way. In her best-selling book, Beyond the Pill, she shares her clinical protocols aimed at supporting women struggling with symptoms of hormone imbalance, including Post-Birth Control Syndrome and birth control-related side effects. A trained nutritional biochemist and Naturopathic Physician, Dr. Brighten is the founder and Clinic Director at Rubus Health, an integrative women’s medicine clinic. She is a member of the MindBodyGreen Collective and has been featured in prominent media outlets such as Forbes, Cosmopolitan, ABC News, and the New York Post.
To learn more about Dr. Brighten click here.
Episode Show Notes:
The Gut - Hormone Relationship
Hormonal Birth Control
Tips While Taking The Pill
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Join us as we discuss the depths of the gut microbiome with chiropractic and an international expert in digestive health and detoxification, Dr. Tom Bayne. In this episode, Dr. Bayne shares a wealth of uncommon knowledge about the microbiome and breaks down key research on the use of spore-based probiotics to improve chronic illness.
As the president of Microbiome Labs, Dr. Bayne travels around the world to educate other healthcare practitioners on the connection between the gut microbiome and many chronic diseases. Dr. Bayne's comprehensive understanding of supplement manufacturing and extensive clinical experience have given him a unique ability to innovate integrative solutions for digestive and immune health. In his clinic, Dr. Bayne has spent over 24 years helping his patients optimize their digestive health, improve autoimmune conditions, and enhance detoxification. To learn more about Dr. Bayne click here.
What is destroying our Microbiome?
Improving The Microbiome
Where to learn more about Dr. Tom Bayne...
Episode Intro … 00:00:30
Do Probiotics Change the Microbiome? … 00:15:00
What is a Spore? … 00:18:30
What is Destroying Our Microbiome? … 00:27:10
Improving The Microbiome … 00:30:40
The Future of Spore Applications … 00:37:00
The Functional Medicine Approach … 00:43:17
Episode Wrap Up … 00:45:00
Welcome to the first sit-down conversation between hosts, Kiran Krishnan and Dr. Nicole Beurkens of the Better Biome Podcast. Tune in as they share the story behind the creation of the podcast, what to expect in the coming episodes, and discuss key takeaways and tips you can implement now to improve your health!
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