True-blue Aussie Isaiah Berris may only be 19-years-old, but has a thing or two to say about political polarisation around the world. While munching on some Tim Tams, Isaiah and Thenu discuss the fundamental nature of truth and how nationalism, tribalism and 'othering' inhibits us from understanding it. 

"If you're going to try and create change in dialogue, take people away from a radical position, they're not going to come away by force. They're not going to come away from that position via opposition. To change minds, we have to create a mutual relationship....establish trust and respect". 

Further links:

Daryl Davis TEDx: Why I, as a black man, attend KKK rallies