The conversation about race in America continues; you know why? Because it NEEDS to. To do better, it's important we talk... and talk some more. Although we will make mistakes again and again, we must keep the conversations and the questions going.

On that note, this week's episode is all about having the tough talks that I hope will help propel us forward.

Secily Wilson is a freelance journalist and non-profit owner of WOW, Women Overcoming with Willpower; and Darrell Butler is the CEO of Butler Innovations, which specializes in diversity inclusion, empowerment and work-life integration strategies.

We talk:

• Their feelings on being black in America today
• What white privilege really is
• How to leverage your privilege to lift minority communities
• Fighting the “What About-isms” when you’re talking race with reticent friends
• Becoming an ally in word and in action
• The conversations black mothers and fathers have to have with their kids about what to do if they are stopped by police
• Defunding the police, vs. transforming the police force
• Secily’s experience with police, and the 3-day Court TV trial that ensued
• How to turn the ship around with racism

Follow Secily on IG @SecilyDeniseWilson and check her out at www.SecilyWilson.net.

Follow Darrell on Twitter @DarrellAButler, and check him out at www.EmpoweredInclusion.com.

Follow me on IG @SonniAbatta, and check out www.Sonni.me for more stories, tips and interviews!

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