This is the audio part of a video podcast. A continuation of the theme in the second part, we explore what happens when we decide not to fit in. It isn't easy, yes, but our guest talks about her experiences, how she  happened to break stereotypes almost regularly. She might not be the most happening person, but she has managed to find a bit of happiness on her own terms. Quite an interesting chat, this.  For the video, check www.youtube.com/c/thevaluesworkshop