Dr. Mark Erdmann is the Vice President of Asia Pacific Marine Programs with Conservation International. He has lived and worked in Indonesia and the Indo Pacific for more than 25 years. He is one of the driving forces behind the success of the Raja Ampat and Birds Head Seascape marine protected areas. We spend an hour discussing his history, the creation and challenges of marine parks in Indonesia and beyond, plus a discussion of why he has a positive outlook on the future of our oceans. Of course with all of the discussion of exploring new sites in the tropics, the topic of crocodile encounters also comes up!