In this episode, Evva and Charles talk about the first time they met, share stories about the games they made as kids, and reminisce about a project that goes by the name of Anti-Piracy.

Timestamps [1:30] "We acknowledged each other's existence"

[6:00] Making video games at 9 years old [9:50] Games are not a part of the McGregor family business [13:54] Fitting game development into high school and college curriculum [16:20] Origins of Anti-Piracy, the video game [24:55] The first public playtesting [27:00] "Oh my goodness"

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