A much-delayed episode, Bruce chats Derek Penwell, Pastor of Douglass Boulevard Christian Church and author of, "Outlandish: An Unlikely Messiah, A Messy Ministry, and the Call to Mobilize" (Chalice Press, 2019)You can find Derrick on Twitter at @reseudaimon.Bruce's dogs would be very happy if you subscribed to and rated this podcast and they would over the moon if you followed, liked, tagged, and shared this podcast on — Twitter: https://twitter.com/brcandfriends (https://twitter.com/brcandfriends)Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/brcandfriends (https://www.instagram.com/brcandfriends)Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/brcandfriends/ (https://www.facebook.com/brcandfriends/)Spreaker: https://www.spreaker.com/show/brc (https://www.spreaker.com/show/brc)