In 'Conversation Starters' Garry and Tim discussed the recordings released by Heritier Lumumba last night, Sam Landsberger's story about the AFL's dealings with the umpire abuse report, and Jason Horne-Francis' decision to put off contract talks. And after learning more about Lumumba's interview with the ABC this morning from Sam Edmund, they were joined in the studio by Boomers star and San Antonio Spurs big man Jock Landale.