UXpod - User Experience Podcast: Recent Episodes

Gerry Gaffney

A free-ranging set of discussions on matters of interest to people involved in user experience design, website design, and usability in general.

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A nice case study of the value of a small number of in-depth interviews.

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Michelle talks about the challenge and opportunity of running a large team remotely.

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Celia Hodent talks about neuroscience, UX and games design.

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Brett King on the future of banking

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Martin talks about the challenges and opportunities of designing for the connected, sensor- and data-enabled city of the future.

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Kevin Hoffman talks about how to design and facilitate good meetings.

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Matiu Bush talks about designing for the end of life.

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Slack's Amir Shevat talks about bots, and why you can't just port existing services to a bot, and about the power of conversational interfaces.

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Tech firms that are not themselves diverse can't be effective in meeting the needs of diverse audiences. Sara Wachter-Boettcher talks about how we've built exclusion into our algorithms.

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Does metadata matter – and why? Shari Thurow talks about making your content usable and accessible for both humans and machines and the importance of information architecture.

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Why everyone should learn to think like a professional, honest journal. What makes a good "infographic"? And how can we find the stories in our data, and tell those stories effectively?

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The author of "Contextual Design" on the importance of immersion, and how to engage the entire team in the design process.

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Jessica talks about good forms design. Layout, Flow, Language - and why not to use placeholder text

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Ethnographic researchers share their experiences in Steve's new book, "Doorbells, Danger and Dead Batteries: User Research War Stories."

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Dave Gray describes "Liminal Thinking" and why it matters.

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Gerry McGovern talks to Gerry Gaffney about the empowered customer and the consequent need to transform organisations.

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Tomer Sharon talks bout Lean User Research.

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Customer as superhero.

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Articulating Design Decisions.

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Can we expect a jury of lay-people to interpret, understand and apply the law?

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What is service design, and how does it relate to UX?

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What you can (and can’t) find out in five seconds, and how to design good tests to do so.

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Getting onto the floor for user research. Measuring PTR (Parental Threshold for the Revolting.) And designing products that engage, educate and entertain kids.

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Donna Tedesco and Fiona Tranquada, authors of "The Moderator's Survival Guide" talk to Gerry Gaffney about moderation. They discuss styles like Friendly Face, Down to Business, Inquisitive Mind and By-the-Book, the risks and pitfalls, Gerry's labcoat, and advice to moderators of all levels.

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Catherine D'Elia talks to Gerry Gaffney about how UX contributed to the design of a new Jury Management Service. She says that explaining UX and getting buy-in are crucial.

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Jeff Johnson talks to Gerry Gaffney about user interface design guidelines, zombie processes, and why your first answer to the following question is typically wrong. A baseball and a bat together cost $110. The bat costs $100 more than the ball. How much does the ball cost?

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Dan Saffer talks about microinteractions, signature moments, and the importance of detail. For a transcript of this and other episodes, visit www.uxpod.com.

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Gerry Gaffney interviews Steve Portigal about conducting interviews for user research. For a transcript of this and other episodes, visit www.uxpod.com.

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Gerry Gaffney interviews Jarrett Walker. For a transcript of this and other episodes, visit www.uxpod.com.

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Gerry Gaffney interviews Whitney Quesenbery. For a transcript of this and other episodes, visit www.uxpod.com.

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Gerry Gaffney interviews James Lewis. For a transcript of this and other episodes, visit www.uxpod.com.

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Gerry Gaffney interviews Mike Regan. For a transcript of this and other episodes, visit www.uxpod.com.

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Gerry Gaffney interviews Morgan McKeagney. For a transcript of this and other episodes, visit www.uxpod.com.

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| Gerry Gaffney interviews Morgan McKeagney. For a transcript of this and other episodes, visit www.uxpod.com. |

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Gerry Gaffney interviews Caroline Jarrett. For a transcript of this and other episodes, visit www.uxpod.com.

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Gerry Gaffney interviews Giles Colborne. For a transcript of this and other episodes, visit www.uxpod.com.

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Gerry Gaffney interviews Bill Albert. For a transcript of this and other episodes, visit www.uxpod.com.

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Gerry Gaffney interviews Mikael Colville-Anderson. For a transcript of this and other episodes, visit www.uxpod.com.

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Gerry Gaffney interviews Adam Greenfield on ubiquitous computing. For a transcript of this and other episodes, visit www.uxpod.com.

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Gerry Gaffney interviews Lenovo's David Hill. For a transcript of this and other episodes, visit www.uxpod.com.

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Gerry Gaffney interviews James Roberston from Step Two Designs about managing intranets.

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Gerry Gaffney interviews Shane Morris about designing for Microsoft Surface and multi-touch interfaces.

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TramTracker is an application that runs on iPhone (and other platforms) and gives Melbourne commuters real-time information on tram movements. Robert Amos talks about developing the application.

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Gerry Gaffney interviews GerryMcGovern, author of "Killer Web Content".

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Gerry Gaffney interviews Tom Vanderbilt, author of "Why we drive the way we do (and what it says about us)".

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Gerry Gaffney interviews John Rhodes about how to sell usability, and about John's book "Selling Usability: User Experience Infiltration Tactics".

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Gerry Gaffney interviews Marc Rettig of Fit Associates on immersion, responsible design, and working with conscious organisations.

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Gerry Gaffney interviews Shawn Henry about the release of the Web Content Accessibility Guidelines V2.0 (www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/).

A transcript of this episode is available at www.uxpod.com.

Note that the User Experience Podcast is now hosted within the Information & Design website (www.infodesign.com.au) - and it's searchable.

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Gerry Gaffney interviews Ginny Redish about the communication needs of web users, about whether those needs are changing, and about how to meet them.

"It's not about the words," says Ginny, "it's about helping people accomplish their goals." She says that this has led to a change from command-based to task-based communication.

Ginny's book is "Letting go of the words: Writing Web Content that Works" (tinyurl.com/3m5fee).

Ginny mentions the forthcoming book by Caroline Jarrett and me - that's "Forms That Work: Designing Web Forms for Usability" (tinyurl.com/44muxd). In the interests of full disclosure, I must point out that both books are in the same series.

Ginny also refers to "Christensen"; that book is "The Innovator's Dilemma" (tinyurl.com/4otvnq).

"Older Wiser Wired" (aarp.org/olderwiserwired) is at the American Association of Retired Persons (AARP). An article by Tom Tullis of Fidelity Investments about designing for older users (tinyurl.com/537ooa) is also online there.

Gerry mentions a previous episode with Dave Grey of Xplane (www.uxpod.com/index.php?post_id=238707).

(References to individual books on this website are links to Amazon.com - we earn a small commission on any purchases you make on following such links).

Duration: 19:55
File size: 3.41MB

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Gerry Gaffney interviews David Jaffe about customer service.

David talks about the "bizarre myth that the head of customer service is responsible for customer service", and the problems that arise from treating customer service as a cost centre.

He tells us that resolution, not handling time, is what matters.

David asks: Why do companies spend millions of dollars on customer research but not learn anything from the day-to-day interactions they already have?

He talks about how inappropriate measures result in the the wrong behaviour from front-line staff, and what happens when IT or Marketing departments have to take responsibility for the problems they cause?

David also tells us about how Amazon melts the "snowball" of repeat contacts.

David's very interesting book (co-authored with Bill Price) is "The Best Service is No Service" (tinyurl.com/68mtbu).

His company is Limebridge (www.limebridge.com.au)

The UK company whose customer service David praises is egg (new.egg.com)

Duration: 27:19
File size: 4.69MB

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Gerry Gaffney spoke to Sam Ng from Optimal Usability in New Zealand
(www.optimalusability.com).

Sam is responsible for OptimalSort, an online card sorting tool (www.optimalsort.com).

Sam speaks about the challenges of balancing user-centred design practices with the need to meet deadlines. Do small development teams really need to use personas?

Sam says software can be "too convenient" if we rely too much on stats to "spit out" answers.

Sam mentions some other products:

Morae (www.techsmith.com/morae.asp)

Axure (www.axure.com)

LiveMeeting (office.microsoft.com/livemeeting)

GoTo Meeting (www.gotomeeting.com)

Google Analytics (www.google.com/analytics)

Crazy Egg (crazyegg.com)

UserTesting.com (www.usertesting.com)

BaseCamp (www.basecamphq.com) from 37 signals (www.37signals.com).

Thanks to Jo Eaton for the photo of Sam.

And apparently if Optimal Usability were a person it would be Jackie Chan (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Chan)

Duration: 17:04
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Gerry Gaffney conducts a wide-ranging interview with Jakob Nielsen.

Is web usability where it's at? Does usability have a say on climate change? Why is the keyboard so popular?

Jakob talks about having data propagate to multiple devices, about why government agencies continue to apply an outdated "waterfall' model, and about how usability can make developing countries rich quickly and thus improve the environment.

He talks about the need to make things easier if you want people to do those things, about future directions in user interaction, and about the need to start small if you're budget-constrained.

Jakob Nielsen's website is useit.com (www.useit.com)

His company is the Nielsen Norman Group (www.nngroup.com).

Jakob refers to Microsoft's Ray Ozzie (www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/ozzie/default.mspx) and Groove (www.openp2p.com/pub/a/p2p/2000/10/24/ozzie_interview.html).

He also refers to the anti-mac interface (www.useit.com/papers/anti-mac.html).

Jakob's forthcoming event is usability week (www.nngroup.com/events/).

Jakob's excellent books include "Usability Engineering" (tinyurl.com/4lsfdv) and "Designing Web Usability" (tinyurl.com/5ymz5t).

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Gerry Gaffney spoke to Luke Wroblewski, Senior Principal of Product Ideation & Design at Yahoo! about what web designers can learn from the world of product packaging, about 'unpacking' as a metaphor for registration, and about embracing the fact that your content will be clipped, cut, copied and embedded.

Luke's forthcoming book is Web Form Design - Filling in the Blanks (www.rosenfeldmedia.com/books/webforms).

Luke's company is LukeW Interface Designs (www.lukew.com); his blog is Functioning Form (www.lukew.com/ff).

Luke mentions Jumpcut (www.jumpcut.com).

The design patterns mentioned are from Yahoo! (developer.yahoo.com/ypatterns), Jennifer Tidwell (designinginterfaces.com) and Martijn van Welie (www.welie.com/patterns/index.php).

Gerry mentions a previous podcast episode (uxpod.com/index.php?post_id=122094) with Ken Carroll from ChinesePod (www.chinesepod.com), who spoke about edge competencies.

We also mention CHISIG (www.chisig.org) and the VALA conference (www.vala.org.au).

And the beer Luke discovered in New Zealand is from Mac's brewery (www.thebrewerybar.co.nz/shed-22-brewing-company).

Duration: 20:54
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Gerry Gaffney spoke to Patrick Kennedy from Step Two Designs  in Sydney (www.steptwo.com.au) about mentoring.

What are the benefits - and the pitfalls - in mentoring?

The book Patrick mentions is The Tao of Coaching, by Max Landsberg  (tinyurl.com/yt8kaj).

(Our book links go to Amazon, and we get a small commission from books sold in this way).

Check out Patrick's Point of View blog (www.gurtle.com/ppov).

Duration: 17:05
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Gerry Gaffney spoke to Patrick Larvie, Google's Manager of User Experience Research.

Patrick reveals Google's secret - rapid user feedback, early and often.

He also talks about the influence of culture on technology.

The book Patrick recommends is Karaoke Nights: An Ethnographic Rhapsody, by Rob Drew (tinyurl.com/2ewbft).

There was also a reference to the Google Image Labeler (images.google.com/imagelabeler).

Gerry concluded with a plug for Information & Design's usability training
courses in Melbourne (infodesign.com.au/training/courseschedule.asp).

Duration: 34:29
File size: 5.92MB

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Gerry Gaffney spoke to Floyd Mueller about his work with exertion interfaces - where the world of video games meets the sweat of the sportsground, and where you can jog, box or play ball with people in distant locations.

Floyd discusses the impact of the Nintendo Wii, and how the lessons to be learned from sports psychology can be applied to video conferencing tools.

He explains that in virtual table tennis, the player puts meaning in the ball by imparting spin and force; the game carries meaning through the network; and the meaning is what matters for engagement.

For interesting videos and more, check out Floyd's website (floydmueller.com), exertion interfaces (exertioninterfaces.com) and 'Remote Impact' at the distance lab (www.distancelab.org/projects/remoteimpact).

Duration: 30:48
File size: 5.28MB

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Gerry Gaffney spoke to Dr. Sofia Celic of Vision Australia (www.visionaustralia.org.au) about issues faced by the visually impaired and others.

Sofia says that a knowledge of accessibility should be "in any serious developer's toolkit".

Two screen readers were mentioned - Jaws (www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws.asp) and Window-Eyes (www.gwmicro.com).

OzWAI (www.ozewai.org) is the Australian Web Adaptability Initiative.

Sofia mentions the Australian Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission (HREOC) (www.hreoc.gov.au).

Microsoft has case studies and videos online (www.microsoft.com/enable/casestudy/default.aspx).

Sofia is also involved in the ongoing development of the Web Content Accessibility Guidelines (www.w3.org/TR/WAI-WEBCONTENT).

Duration: 14:26
File size: 2.47MB

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Gerry Gaffney spoke to Daniel Szuc in Hong Kong about the state of usability today. Although we were on the 22nd floor, in the background you can hear the sounds of the Hong Kong traffic.

Daniel's company is Apogee (www.apogeehk.com)

The Usability Toolkit is the one Gerry and Daniel co-authored (www.theusabilitykit.com).

UPA is the Usability Professionals' Association (www.upassoc.org).

Disclosure: Gerry and Daniel have various commercial connections.

Duration: 18:11
File size: 6.24MB

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Gerry Gaffney spoke to Celeste Lyn Paul about the state of usability efforts in open source software, and about her card sorting method - the Modified Delphi.

Celeste mentioned Open Usability (openusability.org)

Gerry mentions a previous card-sorting episode of UXpod with Donna Maurer (tinyurl.com/3xzglj)

Celeste mentioned Michael Gladwell's book 'Blink' (http://tinyurl.com/235vnd)

The spreadsheet that Celeste spoke about is Joe Lamantia's on BoxesAndArrows (http://tinyurl.com/3742xt)

Celeste's blog is weblog.obso1337.org

Duration: 25:46
File size: 8.84MB

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Gerry Gaffney asked Brian Donohue from iQcontent (www.iqcontent.com) about when, why and how to use web analytics.

Brian talked about avoiding 'zero insight', and how you can use analytics to understand users, improve your site, and validate success.

A few books and resources were mentioned:

Web Analytics Demystified by Eric Peterson (tinyurl.com/ys498j)
Web Analytics: An Hour a Day by Avinash Kaushik (tinyurl.com/2bnc8d)

Google Analytics Shortcuts by Justin Cutroni (www.gashortcut.com)

Sitescan (sitescanga.com)
Emetrics (www.emetrics.org)
Advanced Web Metrics is Brian Clifton's blog (www.advanced-web-metrics.com/blog/)
Occam's Razor is Avinash Kaushik's blog (www.kaushik.net/avinash/)

Duration: 22:49
File size: 7.83MB

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Gerry Gaffney interviews social media maven Tom Raftery.

What does it mean to be a 'social media consultant'? In a wide-ranging discussion, Tom talks about:
* The meaning and relevance of social media * Whether bus drivers in Cork will use social media software * Why companies should embrace complaint * Carbon-neutral data centres

Tom's blog is Tom Raftery's Social Media (www.tomrafteryit.net/)

You can follow the progress of Tom's carbon-neutral data centre - the Cork Internet Exchange (www.cix.ie/). Tom's presentation on reducing IT's carbon footprint is online (tinyurl.com/2u5bvz).

Several venues and conferences are mentioned:

Barcamp Galway (barcampgalway.wordpress.com/)
Barcamp Dublin (www.barcampdublin.com/)
Reboot Copenhagen (www.reboot.dk/)
Le Web conference (www.leweb3.com/)
Web 2.0 Expo (www.web2expo.com/)
DLD Munich (www.dld-conference.com/)

Duration: 23:17
File size: 8.2MB

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Gerry Gaffney asks Jason Furnell about designing for mobile devices.

Along the way, Jason talks about the poetry of movement, the Agile development methodology, and how to navigate a career path in design.

He tells us that without a vision, great minds can go to waste; and how high-fidelity wireframes can help communicate a simple vision.

Jason's blog is 'the architecture of everything'. (jasonfurnell.wordpress.com)

The William Gibson book is 'Spook Country'. (tinyurl.com/2a7mf9)

Duration: 20:29
File size: 7.2MB

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Dave talks about giving ourselves permission to draw, about how the printing press led us to communicate in a particular way, and about how that can limit our communication in a digital environment, about how PowerPoint can be both inhibiting and comforting, and about how where we are with video today is where we were with PageMaker 20 years ago.

Dave says 'You don't have to be an expert to start - you just have to start'.

There are several references in this episode:

Dave's blog is Communication Nation (http://communicationnation.blogspot.com/).

His company is Xplane (http://www.xplane.com/).

Edward Tufte's inspirational book is 'The Visual Display of Quantitative Information' (http://tinyurl.com/27dw8s).

Betty Edwards' book 'Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain' can teach you to draw - even if you don't think you can (http://tinyurl.com/36jbxj).

The culture map is Dave's representation of the culture at his company Xplane (http://tinyurl.com/3a27bp).

Dave's 'ListMania' booklist is on Amazon.com (http://tinyurl.com/25jqas).

I mentioned Lee Brimelow of Frog Design. One of his sites is the WPF blog - it contains his presentation to the Microsoft Remix conference. (http://www.thewpfblog.com/)

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Duration: 30:57
File size: 14.2MB