Kate Copstick is a Paisley-born Scottish actress, television presenter, writer, critic, director and producer. She is part of the furniture of Edinburgh Fringe with more stories than most - Karen and Katy could not get enough of her!

Kate is absolutely fascinating to listen to and in this episode - the longest interview they've had with any guest - Kate reveals so much about her upbringing and family, her incredible charity Mama Biashara and of course producing porn films.

Boss Wummin' is a podcast about Women, Comedy and Business. It's hosted by Karen and Katy Koren, the mother daughter powerhouse team behind the Edinburgh Festival Fringe venue, Gilded Balloon.

Listen as Katy asks her mum for important business and general life advice to help her take the reins in running a company in the world of comedy.