An interview with John Seddon, the inventor of 'The Vanguard Method' and managing director of Vanguard consultancy company. The Vanguard Method is a way of helping organizations move from command and control towards systems design.

In this episode we talk about Johns new book: 'Beyond Command and Control'. We also continue on topics we discussed previous time John was guest on Boss Level.

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• Vanguard Method
• What is the Vanguard Method? John Seddon explains (video)
• John on Wikipedia

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