"To know that young, promising journalists have not returned to the industry because of racism is a blight all of us should be ashamed of. It’s time for systemic change – and for organisations like ours to own up to it, and do something about it.”

Rachael Hocking's powerful monologue last month on NITV's The Point about racism in news media made serious waves. We chat with the Warlpiri woman and journalist about speaking truth to power on the very platform that you’re critiquing, the current unprecedented reckoning with racism in media, and the importance of self-care, particularly as an Aboriginal reporter covering the Black Lives Matter movement.

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