In this episode, Kendall, rachel, and Emily talk about: * Reaffirming that people have a circuitous path to management * The pros and cons of becoming a technologist for romantic reasons * Just how far the biological life analogy can be taken to describe the early internet industry * The point at which you learn that not all problems your team has need fixing * Leveraging the focus of your colleagues when you need help prioritizing All The Things * The highs and lows of iterating on hiring process * Pitfalls for new managers * Just how much of an MCU nerd rachel is * How isolating leadership can be at the top of the org * Kendall's requirement to include downtime/self-care time in his calendar, typically involving mountains * How much fun disaster preparedness planning can be * Why it's ok to have a personal Trello, but perhaps a personal JIRA is a bit too much You can find Emily on twitter at @eanakashima Special thanks to Mel Stanley for our theme music <3