Allen Wyma talks with Stephen Blum about PubNub. PubNub is a real-time communication platform and infrastructure-as-a-service company that is integrating Rust into their stack.

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Timestamps* [@00:00] - Meet Stephen Blum, CTO & Co-founder of PubNub * [@06:43] - Implementing Rust in PubNub’s infrastructure * [@15:19] - Rust rewrite insights * [@16:41] - PubNub’s hiring process * [@19:35] - Discussing concurrency * [@22:07] - Pros and cons of full vs partial Rust rewrites * [@30:39] - Closing discussion

Other links* RustASIA Conf 2025

CreditsIntro Theme: Aerocity

Audio Editing: Plangora

Hosting Infrastructure: Jon Gjengset

Show Notes: Plangora

Hosts: Allen Wyma