This episode of Bird in the Wings maybe the deepest dive into the working mind of a musician we have ever done. And that's saying something. This time Kelli sits down for a fascinating discussion with UW-Green Bay Music Professor, Bill Sallak. He and Kelli discuss his journey through academia as a student, performer, researcher, and educator. In addition, they also discuss the creation of the new Weidner Philharmonic at the University of Wisconsin-Green Bay, and the upcoming inaugural concert.