John is sleepy, Alison is talking to Chinese fans, and Liz went to the Hugos.

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Content warnings this episode: COVID-19 (chapter 2); racism (chapter 3); foreign policy and sexism (chapter 4)

  • Letters of comment
    • Farah and Fran talking about masking at Novacon
    • A big discussion about BSFA
      • You can get by just NOT TELLING THE BSFA your address (DON’T TRY THAT WITH THE WORLDCON)
    • Chris Garcia
  • Site selection at DisCon III
    • Chengdu in 2023 won
      • File 770’s reporting on the win
      • Chinese fans seem nice!
      • The livestream was good, and had 106,000 viewers
      • Lots of different Chinese university SF societies encouraging the bid; spot the flag in Gallifreyan and the monolith
    • WSFS Business Meeting
      • The video of the session we discuss
      • Kevin Standlee’s LiveJournal post about it
      • File 770’s reporting on the session
    • There are legitimate concerns about China
      • John found he generally agreed with these tweets from Jeannette Ng
        • Tweet
        • Thread #1
        • Thread #2
      • The guests are Liu Cixin, Sergei Lukyanenko and Robert J. Sawyer
        • A File 770 commenter outlines the issues with Lukyanenko
  • Hugo Awards
    • If Fanzine had 53 fewer votes and Fancast had 42 fewer votes they would not have been awarded
  • Picks
    • John: The Psychopath Club by Sandra Bond (paperback, Kindle)
    • Alison: Sibilant Fricative by Adam Roberts (paperback, Kindle)
    • Liz: The Witness for the Dead by Katherine Addison (epub, paperback, Kindle)
  • Picks for Christmas song
    • Alison: Chiron Beta Prime by Jonathan Coulton
    • John:
      • California Christmastime by Crazy Ex-Girlfriend
      • Oh Santa! by Mr.B the Gentleman Rhymer
    • Liz: Bethlehem Down
    • Alison’s playlist of Christmas songs which do not presuppose God or Santa
  • Music credits
    • Our theme music is It’s Christmas Time by Frank Schröter, used under the Simplified Filmmusic.io Standard License