Your friends and family live in your phone. Sure, you see them from time to time, but usually for scheduled events, planned well in advance, with an agenda and a timeframe. How often do you just find a friend … and chill?

A new book illustrates the kinds of casual hangouts that are dying out, at the same time as loneliness rates are rising around the world. There’s a particular kind of energy we get from just killing time, or wandering, and we’re losing it. What’s that doing to us?

GUEST: Sheila Liming, author of Hanging Out: The Radical Power Of Killing Time