Paul Macauley is a self-described 'maker of things'. He writes books and plays and has been known to turn his hand to the odd short film. This conversation was recorded in March 2018. I spoke to him about how the idea of 'enough' can be a motivator and a reward in the creative process and what else came to mind when he considered the question 'what is enough?' It's the second in a series of unknown size. I hope you enjoy it.