Matthias Zimmerlin is a vice principal at the Peter Thumb School in southern Germany.

Matthias and Carl met when Carl's punk band was touring Germany in the mid 2000s. Now they reconnect having both ventured into education. We dig into School Development through Change Concept of Performance and look for shared insights between the current education qualities of Germany and the U.S.

A question we explore is, "How do we educate for what students will need in the future?" Are trade schools a better route for success than academic degrees? How do schools share the role of parenting? 

Buckle up- it's a long one!

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