It was around 2008-2010 when Michael's family's business went under due to the recession. From that point, Michael spent every spare second he had reading whatever he could. He'd be reading Ruby and JavaScript documentation while he pushed his son on the swing.

In this episode, Michael talks about what it takes to break into the tech industry. He explains how interviews are a hackable skill and the importance of building relationships in the industry.

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Homework Sit down for 5 minutes and think about what you really want to do with your life and figure out how you can sell that. Get one* customer.

Resources* How to get experience as a software engineer

Guest: Michael Chan* Twitter: @chantastic * Github: @chantastic

Host: Kent C. Dodds* Website: kentcdodds.com * Twitter: @kentcdodds * GitHub: @kentcdodds * YouTube: Kent C. Dodds * Epic React: epicreact.dev