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Show notes* Barry moving to America and the "American Dream" [0:06:11] * Experimentation as a lifestyle -- the kitchen table talk [0:13:14] * Navigating uncertainty [0:15:09] * Modeling behaviors [0:22:25] * Barry's hack to get new perspectives on problems you don't know how to solve [0:24:12] * Stumbling blocks in unlearning [0:26:36] * Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, and "time to think" [0:31:07] * Barry's personal reflection practices [0:33:11] * "We're trained for more" [0:35:19] * How do I know I need to unlearn? [0:45:27] * Hotseat: Barry puts Andrew through unlearning exercise on the spot [0:48:11] * Andrew's embarrassing insight [0:54:50] * The #1 obstacle to being a learner [1:00:04] * "Steve always got it right" [1:02:24] * How to make being wrong, feel good [1:04:09] * Debunking the 10,000 hour rule [1:07:49] * The levels of deliberate practice [1:08:24] * Applying deliberate practice to day-to-day life [1:15:12] * Building systems & countermeasures around yourself to be successful [1:18:42] * The origin of the Enliven podcast [1:22:44] * How to start a cultural transformation [1:26:37] * Barry's #1 hack for meetings [1:33:01]

People, companies, books, etc mentioned* People + Carol Dweck + Angela Duckworth + Cal Newport + Andy Grove & OKRs + Tom Bilyeu + K. Anders Ericsson + Gibson Biddle (listen to Gib's episode on Barry's Unlearn podcast) + Dr Ed Hoffman at NASA * Books & Podcasts + Barry's books - Unlearn - Unlearn podcast - Lean Enterprise + Mindset + Grit + So Good They Can't Ignore You + Deep Work + Digital Minimalism + Impact Theory + Peak: The New Science of Expertise + Mastery, by George Leonard + The E-Myth * Other + McKinsey & the obligation to dissent + Deliberate practice + Agile

Quotes* "If something important comes up, I'll put it on my calendar. But I'm going to make time for thinking." * making two or three bets and exploring them well is better than making one hundred bets and half-assing them" * "I've been right a million times...and it's bought me jack shit." * "Innovation is new insight that leads to better action" * "we're building these systems that are so example that we don't even know how they work" * "in all our meetings we just talk about output, the things we got done...if we're going to be agile we have to talk about outcomes" * "organizational transformation is just the collective impact of individual transformation"

Lessons and key takeaways* how eager am I to get information that is contrary to my view? * the essentials to unlearning: curiosity, ownership * reflection is a habit of top performers * signs you need to unlearn + challenge facing and not living up to expectation + place you're struggling or avoiding a challenge + tried everything can think of and not getting results you want * What's the real outcome you're aiming for? * when frustrated with the obstacles, zoom back out to the outcomes in order to discover new things to try * we often know what to do...but we can't execute shared things on our own * Andy Grove and Steve Jobs "getting it right" * create and cultivate a personal board of directors to re-energize and gain new perspectives * always have agency for how we show up in a system—so it starts with us—and each of us has a

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