In this episode Robbie bangs on about a button, gets incredibly jealous and learns about the importance of persistence.

Brilliantly Easy, Stupidly Difficult is a podcast about the choices we make, and the lives we end up living. Join Robbie Dale as he negotiates a specially curated 9others dinner to explore how the choices we make at work, at home - at all - can be the difference between relief and regret.

Written and presented by Robbie Dale, writer, snoozer and co-founder of Thought Starter.

Guest three: Brandt Maybury, founder of Tastehead.

Guest four: Melanie Goldsmith, founder of Smith & Sinclair.

Read more about 9others at https://9others.com