Fly On The Call hits the big 5-0! The podcast's second year of existence starts with a conversation with Elise Okusami, the mind behind Oceantor. Her debut full length, Thing I Never Said, is the perfect mix of heavy grunge and power pop, of dark themes with silver linings, to help you through 2020. We talk all about the album, her Plastic Miracles label, 90s merch bundles, and a whole lot more. Enjoy!

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