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The Tiemstra Brothers

Here we are, twin brothers in sister cities with a strange urge: To talk about stage to screen (and screen to stage) adaptations! Follow us as we bumble through some of the greatest cross-pollination between mediums since people figured out they didn't have to write original material for the screen!

Hosts Social Media (mostly twitter) Robert Tiemstra: @the_timestar Matthew Tiemstra: @TheTimesRat

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We're finally here, at the end (or is it?) - tackling a biggie: HAMLET, THE PRINCE OF DENMARK.

Join us, Marilyn, in the (as of this moment) series finale, where we choose "Not to Be" and go out on a high note on this Best Picture-winning classic from the Bard and Larry Olivvy!

Edited by Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay)
Produced by Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)

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This week, the Tiemstra Bros discuss another overlooked Frank Capra film: Arsenic and Old Lace! Did we really enjoy this goofy dark comedy, or did we find its shenanigans too hard to swallow? That's the tease, just watch the episode!

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Hosted by Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay) and Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)

Next episode, for our series finale, something is rotten in this state of Denmark...

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Spoiler alert for Hereditary (2018). Yes, that does make sense in context.

Buckle in fellas as we dive into some early proto-feminism in the form of Henrik Ibsen's A Doll's House, specifically the really hard to find adaptation from 1973 with David Warner and Jane Fonda (with a brief mention of the... other 1973 adaptation which features Anthony Hopkins and Claire Bloom). Yeah, it's confusing. And feminist. Woo! Also Matt talks about the Mabou Mines production, but forgets the name of the company.

Hosted by Matthew and Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)

Edited by Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay)

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Tennessee Williams strikes again! This time with a film version he hated! In this episode, The Tiemstra Bros. discuss how the film preserves so many surface level parts of the source material... while not quite understanding why Williams hated it so much.

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Meredith Wilson's 1957 classic won the hearts of America, but will its 1962 adaptation pull a fast one 57 years later? Join the Tiemstra Bros. as they delve into what might be a timeless classic, or might be a 2 and a half hour re-staging of the original piece with the barest hint of a change.

Or...BOTH?!?!

Co-hosted and edited by Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay)
Co-hosted and produced by Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)

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We thought it was high time to cover a good Kenneth Branagh film after that strange mess that was Love's Labours Lost. So this week, we discuss the film that introduced us to that delightful slab of Northern Irish Ham: Henry V!

Next Episode, we're going for a march with 76 trombones in The Music Man!

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Hosted by Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar) and Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay)

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"What are they gonna do? We're all crazy."

Join us this time as the Tiemstra Bros. dive into a Pacific northwest asylum to talk one of the "Greatest films of all time"! Does the film still hold up? What is the play like? Why did the novelist sue the production? And why did they spoil the Shining about halfway through?

Co-hosted and Edited by Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay)

Co-hosted and Produced by Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)

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This time, the Tiemstra Bros. tackle an endlessly trip rock opera adaptation that is as strange as the original album was revolutionary! You may ask what legendary band will be the one we tackle this time?

All we can say is: the Who's on first.

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Co-hosted and edited by Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay)

Co-hosted and produced by Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)

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What is the 39 Steps? A wildly successful film from 1935 AND a wildly successful play from 2005! But how do they differ? Join the Tiemstra Brothers in this episode to find out!

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hosted by Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar) and Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay)

If you live in the LA area, Robert's short film is showing at the Pasadena International Film Festival on March 14th! Link to tickets: https://www.laemmle.com/films/43677?fbclid=IwAR3Z7rqk75iyYsvVupVvwrhiMZhucGlTmOTtA9wKkjRybkF7v7_z6E2ZBJU

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This Oscar season, we're taking a shallow dive into a film that has been made 4 TIMES (and that's only counting English Language Hollywood adaptations). We watched 3 of them back to back, so if we sound a little sleep deprived, this is why.

Next, week, we're going to take 39 Steps into the world of Alfred Hitchcock...

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Trigger Warning: References to brutal violence, including a sexual violation.

We go to the NC-17 south in a world of killers and creeps in Tracy Lett's brutal play and the adaptation from the Exorcist's William Friedkin, so buckle your cowboy boots, grab a tub of K-Fry-C, and let's talk some West Texas Satan!

Join us next time for our Oscar Special Episode A STAR IS BORN

Tickets to see Rob's short film at the Mindfield Film Festival - https://filmfreeway.com/MindfieldFilmFestivalLosAngeles/tickets

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Co-hosted and produced by Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)

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It's another Sidney Lumet day here at Bros Before Shows! Listen as we discuss Lumet's first film, 12 Angry Men (or "Twelve Assholes in a Room Trying to figure out What to Do", as Matt calls it).

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NEXT TIME: KILLER JOE!

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Armed with Rob's firmly-cemented research and experience in the subject and Matt's presence, the Tiemstra Bros. dive into one of the most adapted and beloved children's plays of all time, sorting all possible versions, including but not limited to:
THE SILENT ONE
THE DISNEY ONE
THE SPIELBERG ONE
THE LUCIUS MALFOY ONE
PETER PAN 2: RETURN TO NEVERLAND

Which is the best adaptation? Which is the most racist? Which hand did Hook lose? Find out on this deep-dive of an episode.

Co-hosted and edited by Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay)

Co-hosted and produced by Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)

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"I would love to go to the picnic, but we're in zombies right now."

Today, we're discussing the zombie musical Christmas movie Anna and the Apocalypse! It's a wild ride through Glasgow.

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Hosted by Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar) and Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay)

Next time, we're going to the second star to the right and straight on 'til morning!

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This week, we're talking about the perennial holiday classic, and the stage musical of the same name! Listen as Rob's mind gets blown with this film's crazy trip from the screen to the stage.

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Next time: ANNA AND THE APOCALYPSE!

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We're in the same physical space this time, talking about the The Ruling Class, and its film adaptation starring Peter O'Toole! There's a bit of an echo on Matt's side, but we kept it in because it felt like being in the Houses of Parliament or something.

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hosted by Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar) and Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay)

Next week: We're dreaming of a white Christmas. But not, like, in a racial way. More in a climate change kinda way.

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Guess what time it is? IT'S CLASSISM TIME! Welcome to the nearly three-hour Lerner and Lowe musical based on a play by George Bernard Shaw, that may or may not have aged well or poorly depending on whether you agree with Matt or Rob.

Is it a bloated mess of Anglo-centric quasi-nuance, a sexist endorsement of wanton cruelty, or an incisive character piece? And can you hear Matt making his dinner in the background while Rob doesn't notice?

Edited and co-hosted by Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay)
Co-hosted and produced by Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)

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You know there was a King Lear movie this year starring Anthony Hopkins? Well, we just found that out! LET'S TALK MORE SHAKESPEARE, BABY!

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Hosted by Matthew Tiemstra (@Clockworkplay) and Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)

Join us next week for My Fair Lady!

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HAPPY HALLOWEEN...EPISODE...

Today we get to answer the question: which was more disastrous: Carrie's Prom or Carrie's Opening Night? ZING!! Bathe in blood with us as the Tiemstra Brothers dive into the weeds with this horror classic and its catastrophic stage adaptation. Imagine this episode surrounded by an uncomfortable amount of steam and some implausibly shaved legs.

Co-hosted and Edited by Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay)

Co-hosted and Produced by Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)

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In honor of the late great Neil Simon, we're discussing his most famous play, and the film inspired by it: The Odd Couple!

We also talk a bit about how it spun off into a massive franchise of its own, with 2 movies, 2 TV series, and an additional play! Yeah, it was really popular.

Next week, we're getting a little Carrie-d away for our first Halloween Episode...

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The 1960s, an era where strong alpha men held power in the office, and scrappy young lads fought each other to climb the ladder to the top, all the while curbing their sexual deviancies!

No, we're not reviewing Mad Men.

Join the Tiemstra Bros. as they wade through this sea of pure uncut 60s-ness, sexism, slapstick, sight gags, and a surprising lack of cocaine. Does this musical stand the test of time, or does it take on a darker tone with hindsight?

Co-hosted and Edited by Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay)

Co-hosted and Produced by Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)

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After some technical difficulties, we're going to talk extensively about Peter Shaffer's Amadeus and the film adaptation directed by Milos Forman! So if you wanted to hear us geek out about Opera, this is the place to be.

Our next episode will be Friday September 21, with How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying!

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Due to technical errors, our Amadeus episode will be postponed. Watch our twitter spaces for more as this story develops!

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This episode, we're diving into a Shakespearean tale from a land down under! This is a 2006 Independent Australian version of MacBeth (starring Sam Worthington of Avatar fame). Don't worry, we keep the awful Australian accents to a minimum.

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Hosted by Matthew Tiemstra (@clockworkplay) and Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)

Next week, we're diving into the history (and drama) of Wolfgang AMADEUS Mozart! Stay Tuned!

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WHAT TIME IS IT?

WALTZ TIME!!

Smiles of a Summer Night was a Swedish comedy/drama/satire by Ingmar Bergman. It became A Little Night Music, an American comedy/drama/satire/musical by Stephen Sondheim, and then became a film.

Matt and Rob talk all three in this episode, as they attempt to sort out which is the best version of the story, how have the sexual politics evolved from '55 to '72 to '77, and why on earth did the party guests drink that wine???

Co-hosted and Edited by Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay)
Co-hosted and Produced by Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)

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Our second Jukebox Musical with a pretentious exclamation point at the end of the title. Unlike Moulin Rouge, this movie isn't quite as camp as the material wants to be... But listen to this episode to find out more of our opinions! We go in depth discussing the flipper dance.

Listen to the very end to hear our wild predictions for Mamma Mia: Here We Go Again!

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Hosted by Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay) and Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)

Next Week: SMILES OF  A SUMMER NIGHT/A LITTLE NIGHT MUSIC

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In the heat of summer, we take you to the dead of Winter in this second part in the Angevin Empire Extended Universe (AEEU).

If none of that made sense, it's Beckett 2 - this time with extra Peter O'Toole, with the addition of the unbeatable Katherine Hepburn! If you think reality stars are petty, wait 'till you see the reality stars of 1183!

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Co-hosted and edited by Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay)
Co-hosted and produced by Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)

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Today we're talking about the gender-bending genre-defying Broadway-challenging barrier-breaking musical Hedwig and the Angry Inch!! (with special emphasis on its 2001 Film Version).

NEXT EPISODE: A Lion in Winter (1968)

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CW: Opinions about Phantom of the Opera that aren't all negative, and references to Batman and Robin

This time, the Tiemstra Bros. finally roll up their sleeves and get into the muck with this titan of Broadway and its confusing adaptation by Joel Schumacher: The Phantom of the Highlands (I know, Gerard Butler is from the Lowlands, but Phantom of the Lowlands Sounds like a porno name). Is it an underrated classic, or a lumbering mess? Is giving a massively-ego'd man with questionable sense in quality full creative control ever a good idea?

Laboriously edited by Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay)

Surgically produced by Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)

Hosted by both of them.

Bibliography:

Lindsay Ellis' video essay on the Phantom of the Opera: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m5I_5Vnh6A

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This week, the Tiemstra Bros are talking about one of the most produced High School plays of all time, and its Oscar-Winning film adaptation!

Next episode, things are going to get a bit... Operatic. And... Phantomish.

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It's an adaptation with something for EVERYONE... well, by 1966 standards.

This early Sondheim musical has everything - jump cuts! Cut jumps! Cross dressing! Kind of weird objectification! Boring love story!

Are the Tiemstra Bros. pleased by this diversion? Or would we rather just stay home and order a sit down orgy for 14? Only listening can tell you the answer...

Edited and co-hosted by Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay)

Co-hosted and produced by Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)

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So exciting the audience is close to tears... so delighting it will run for 50 years!

Well, so far it has been running for 17 years, and it's quite the film. Yes, this week is Moulin Rouge week on Bros Before Shows! Listen as Matt & Rob parse their mixed feelings on this delightful mess of a movie!

Next week: We're going to Rome. Something funny might happen on the way there...

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Hosted by Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay) and Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)

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Wilkomen, Bienvenue, Welkom, to Bros. Before Shows!

This week we dive into one of the most successful and dramatically adapted film musicals of all time! It's a twisted, sexy, lurid, tale told in the heart of 30s Germany... I do nazi what could go wrong!

Next week we head a bit to the west to see what's going on in... lets say a...Red Mill?

Edited by Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay)

Co-hosted by Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)

Tickets for Twisted: Twistednyc.com

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Today the Tiemstra Brothers discuss their favorite fictionalized version of Shakespeare in SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE! How many different ways can we imply we simply want to be Joseph Fiennes' version of Will Shakespeare? Listen to the episode and find out!

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Next week, we're going to visit a Cabaret somewhere...

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Play it, Marilyn. Play "Bros Before Shows". Round up the usual suspects, for it's classic hollywood time! In this episode, we'll always have (to) par(i)se out our opinions on one of the greatest movies ever made? Or is it? You'll see- this could be a start of a beautiful viewership. Here's listening to you, kid.

Edited and co-hosted by Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay)

Co-hosted and produced by Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)

Credit taken by Jack Warner (@wbpictures)

Matt's upcoming projects:
Tickets for Enoptromancy: https://theatre80.wordpress.com/evening-crane-theatre-presents-enoptromancy-or-when-we-meet-as-one/

Info for Twisted: http://twistednyc.com

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This week, the Tiemstra Brothers dive into some Arthurian Legend with Camelot, the corniest 1967 musical film you may or may not have heard of! This episode features a lot of digressions about when its okay for actors to be dubbed in musicals.

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HAPPY EASTER! Here's the drugged-up version of 70s Sunday School you (maybe) wish you (maybe) never had! Is this as interesting as its contemporary Superstar? Or is it something completely different?

Edited and co-hosted by (Not Saint) Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay)

Produced and co-hosted by Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)

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CW: Talk of and reference to a very specific hate crime.

But other than that it's more interesting theater-talk with the Brothers Tiemstra! Will they make too much fun of Wyoming?! Does Wyoming deserve it?!?

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Co-hosted and produced by Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)

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Content Warning: Extensive Swearing and Kevin Spacey.

This week, the Tiemstra Brothers discuss a play that could well be known as SALESMEN BANTER: THE MOTION PICTURE. Spoiler alert: We never quite figure out what the title means.

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Hosted by Matthewe Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay) and Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)

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Welcome to 21st Century Broadway! Here it's all glitz and glamour and... Hitler?! The Tiemstra Bros. talk Mel Brooks savage and oddly controversial take on fascism, as well as the subsequent musical adaptation and its film xerox copy. Of these three classics, which will come out on top as the definitive version of this screwball story?

Co-hosted and Edited by Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay)

Co-hosted and Produced by Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)

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OSCAR SPECIAL TIME!!

This week the Tiemstra Bros. review the surprise Best Picture 2016 winner Moonlight, adapted from the unpublished "In Moonlight Black Boys Look Blue". Do they merely grasp at straws for nearly 40 minutes or do they actually have something meaningful to say about this quite meaningful award winner?

Edited and Co-hosted by Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay)

Co-hosted and Produced by Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)

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This week, Matt & Rob watch and discuss their first Tyler Perry movie! Will it be a faithful adaptation of the Iconic Choreopoem, or a melodramatic mess that doesn't do its source material justice! Listen to find out! And then maybe listen to some people of color discuss this film, because we are nowhere near qualified...

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This week, Matt & Rob watch and discuss their first Tyler Perry movie! Will it be a faithful adaptation of the Iconic Choreopoem, or a melodramatic mess that doesn't do its source material justice! Listen to find out! And then maybe listen to some people of color discuss this film, because we are nowhere near qualified...

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For part 3 of our Black History Month series, we're covering a film that Spike [Lee] hates: The controversial in hindsight Driving Miss Daisy!

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For part 3 of our Black History Month series, we're covering a film that Spike [Lee] hates: The controversial in hindsight Driving Miss Daisy!

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Continuing Black History Month, the Tiemstra Bros. (in a surprisingly spoiler-free episode) delve into Lorraine Hansberry's 1958 Classic adapted for a 1961 screen!

Is Sydney Poitier able to do justice to the character he got a Tony nod for? Is the play really about his character, or is it about Claudia McNeil? And PIGLET?!?!

Co-hosted and Edited by Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay)

Co-hosted and not edited by Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)

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We're starting Black History Month with one of the most successful black musicals of all time - The Wiz! As you'll learn in this episode, our hosts were in this musical in high school, playing a variety of roles.

Next week, we're gonna leave some fruit outside. Namely, a Raisin in the Sun.

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It's cross-dressin' time! Well, it always is, but this time it is in 1934 Paris! Join the Tiemstra Bros. as we visit this '82 exploration of Homosexuality, cross-dressing, and gender politics in a world that doesn't quite understand any of it. Does it hold up, or is it a cringefest?

Edited by Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay)

Co-hosted by Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)

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There was only so many Shakespeare Adaptations we could cover before we got to Kenneth Branagh, the Northern Irish actor and filmmaker who made some of the most iconic Shakespeare film adaptations! But for our first foray into his filmography, we're talking about one of his less popular efforts: Love's Labour's Lost!

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"This movie should be called 'the Greatest Conman'" - Matt, minutes after finishing recording.

This new year, we're starting with a special episode analyzing the new musical film 'The Greatest Showman' a film that's a musical based on the real life of P.T. Barnum, in that the main character is named P.T. Barnum... and basically nothing else.

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Co-hosted by Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)

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It's our last episode of 2017, and we're taking on the White Whale of Movie musicals: Tom Hooper's 2012 adaptation of Les Miserables! A film that a lot of musical theater fans hate with a passion that both of us actually liked when it came out. Stay tuned for how our opinions have changed.

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For our post-Hanukkah pre-Christmas episode, the Tiemstra Bros. review the musical epic Fiddler on the Roof! Does this adaptation deserve its length (that of a small miniseries or a regular-sized David Lean film)? Is this indeed the definitive cinematic version of the '60s classic? Find out in this unusually spoiler-safe episode!

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Co-hosted by Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)

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It's the holiday season and subtext is in the air as the Tiemstra Brothers review the 1994 British comedic chamber piece My Night With Reg and its 1997 BBC adaptation! Who says a straight-to-TV adaptation of a play in the 90s can't be good? Well, we might, but you can find out now!

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Once again, we're talking about a play one of us was actually IN, John Guare's Six Degrees of Separation, a play about abstract art, con artists, and cameos from future Star Wars directors!

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Next week: My Night with Reg!

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For the beginning of our second season(ish), we're doing something completely different: Profiling one of our favorite playwrights-turned-filmmakers, Martin McDonagh!

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Next week: Six Degrees of Separation by John Guare!

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CONTENT WARNING: Mention of Assault, the fate of Misty Upham.

It's a really good play, but does that guarantee an iconic film? The Tiemstra brothers tackle the 2013 Meryl Streep Vehicle based on the Pulitzer Prize winning family dramedy. Just in time for Thanksgiving!

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Two weeks from now, we're beginning our second season with a profile of Playwright turned Filmmaker Martin McDonagh!

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It's Aaron Sorkin time! This week, the Brothers Tiemstra review the West Wing Mastermind's breakthrough play/film A Few Good Men. Is this a good adaptation? Is that the truth? And can they handle it?

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This week, the Tiemstra Brothers tackle one of the most famous modern ballet musicals and the film it was based on! Quite a few spoilers in this episode, and also a few mediocre English accents!

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CW: Discussion of violence, cannibalism, and a mention of sexual assault. And spoilers.

For our SUPER LONG HALLOWEEN FINALE, the Tiemstra Bros. discuss their favorite musical Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street. Attend the incredibly strange tale of this dark comedy eventually turned broadway thriller! What happened then, well that's the 'cast and to give it away would put us on blast.

Edited (eventually) by Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay)

Co-hosted and produced by Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)

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Join us in a dystopian future this week, as we discuss the 2008 cult horror/sci-fi musical Repo! The Genetic Opera! Spoiler alert: Matt is not into it. Rob is a little more into it, but still not.

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Read Rob's horror fiction: https://raremiststories.wordpress.com/

Or listen to Rob on Season 3 Episode 5 of this Glee Podcast: http://gleepodcast.libsyn.com/

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Things are getting bloody and quirky in this second edition of the Bros. Before Shows Halloween series, as we talk about how this weird little film became a weird little musical and then a weird little musical film...

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Co-hosted by Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)

Co-hosted and edited by Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay)

Rob's short stories: raremiststories.wordpress.com

Also listen to Rob on the latest episode of the podcast "There's Nothing Ironic About Show Choir"

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Happy Halloween month! This month, we're going for a theme of covering macabre and spooky plays & musicals! For our first entry in this series: Young Frankenstein!

Young Frankenstein the movie is a solid gold comedy classic from 1974. Young Frankenstein the musical also exists. Let's talk about it.

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Hosted by Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar) and Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay)

For some horror short stories Rob is writing this October, go to http://raremiststories.wordpress.com

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We didn't plan it this way, but we're now discussing our third Romeo & Juliet adaptation! This time, we're discussing the 2014 film starring Hailee Steinfeld and Douglas Booth, adapted dreadfully by the creator of Downtown Abbey himself, Julian Fellowes!

Next week, we're kicking off our Halloween month with Young Frankenstein!!!

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Straight from the 2014 Tony Awards comes an HBO-produced showcase in the (Walter) White house, where he struggles to give Falcon the right to vote, amongst other politics-y stuff! Also included are discussions on where presidents come from, politicians in cinema, and your normal soupçon of trivia straight from your very own Tiemstra Brothers!

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In this political and trivia-laden episode, the Tiemstra Bros. delve into a relic of times past with no modern-day similarities whatsoever (sarcasm), to deliver you nothing but the best in ridiculous digressions, speculation on historical resonance, some grandstanding, and at least one reference to Rocky IV. Enjoy!

Edited by Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay)

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A first for this show, we're reviewing a film that went from the screen to the stage, and then BACK TO THE SCREEN! In this special episode of Bros Before Shows, we tackle all 3 versions of Hairspray: The 1988 film by John Waters, the 2003 Musical Adaptation of that film, and the 2007 film adaptation of that musical.

Also, we talk about racism and stuffs. It's fun.

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We're taking ourselves back to the 19th century (specifically its gender roles) with August Strindberg's corked wine of a 'masterpiece' MISS JULIE! Thrill as the Tiemstra Bros. figure out how many different ways we can say misogyny, and struggle to figure out whether this film works as a deconstruction of...itself?

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Hosted by Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay) and Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)

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Aaaaand the Tiemstra Bros. are back with an analysis of Sugar, the musical adaptation of the Billy Wilder/Marilyn Monroe classic Some Like It Hot! As we meander through horrible impressions, fascinating trivia, and a ton of jet-lag, we answer: does this farce make the transition well or does it receive the fuzzy end of the adaptation lollipop?

Hosted by Matthew (@ClockworkPlay) and Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)
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Wonder why there was no episode this week? Well...

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"I've always depended on the kindness of strangers" - a famous quote from this play & film, or our marketing strategy for this podcast?

This week, we're talking some Brando and Leigh with the classic stage to screen version of Tennessee Williams' play 'A Streetcar Named Desire'!

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Produced and Edited by Robert Tiemstra

NEXT WEEK: 'Sugar!" the musical adaptation of 'Some Like it Hot'!

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“We should rename the film 'the last 5 hours', because it feels that long.” - Matt, immediately after he finished watching the film for the first time.

And if that doesn't give away our take on this Jason Robert Brown musical film adaptation, we've got 42 minutes of ranting for you! As usual, Matt is a bit more angry than Rob about this one. It feels like our Romeo + Juliet episode all over again...

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HOSTED BY ROBERT TIEMSTRA (@The_Timestar) AND MATTHEW TIEMSTRA (@ClockworkPlay)

Next week, we're hitching a ride on A Streetcar Named Desire!

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This week, we're putting our history hats on for Becket, a film set in 12th century France, starring Peter O'Toole and Richard Burton. During the course of this episode, we tread through some brief crash courses in Anglo-Saxon history, modern political references, and a strange amount of references to Samuel Beckett (who has nothing to do with this play)

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Produced and edited by Robert Tiemstra

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For our second special episode, we're tackling a film we both very much enjoy, but have mixed feelings on: Julie Taymor's jukebox rock musical motion picture Across the Universe! In this episode, Rob tries to define why he loves Julie Taymor despite not loving a single one of her films, and Matt can't get over how awful Jude (the protagonist) is. It's a barrel of laughs.

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PRODUCED AND EDITED BY ROBERT TIEMSTRA

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CONTENT WARNING: IF YOU AREN'T A FAN OF LOUD AIR CONDITIONING OR RANDOM ACTORS MAKING NOISES IN THE BACKGROUND, THIS EPISODE WILL BE PARTICULARLY ANNOYING TO YOU.

This week, we're tackling a legendary stage play and a... less legendary... film by a legendary director. This film has an odd pedigree, because it's Sidney Lumet's 1962 film of Arthur Miller's A View from the Bridge!

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To celebrate this country's belated birthday, let's talk about the beloved but extremely dated musical 1776! The year is, well, 1776, and the location is Philadelphia in the summer. The country is ripe for Independence, as well as quirky hijinks and musical numbers. Matt was in this musical, by the way.

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This week is a bunch of firsts - first foreign language film on this podcast, first film from before the 1960s, first MacBeth (though given our history with the play, we'll likely cover a bunch of these as the show goes on).

This week, we're covering Throne of Blood, AAkira Kurosawa's 50s Samurai drama. It features fog, witches, ghosts murder, and a LOT of Arrows.

Next Week, we're going back to the American Revolution with 1776!

Episode Produced and edited by Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)

Hosted by Robert and Matthew Tiemstra (@Clockwork Play)

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For work Rob has done lately, check out this video essay he directed or Wisecrack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5crXeoBo2w

And for Matt, check out the Sterling Renaissance Festival in Upstate New York!

(Referenced in the podcast) Kyle Kalgarn's analysis of Throne of Blood: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Na_PrOYqKNY

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"I was a 20 year old  gay man in Manhattan during the 1980s, and you know what I did? I paid my F*cking Rent!" - a Theater professor of mine on why he hates Rent, or as we call it, "Hipsters in America".

And if that isn't enough, here's two men who weren't even born during the AIDS crisis talking about why Rent's characters are awful human beings, the conflict is cheap, and no one on this production knows how a Bolex works.

And yet, the musical is not a complete waste of time. The same may not be said about this 45 minute episode. Enjoy!

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Produced & Edited by Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar on Twitter & Instagram)

Co-Hosted by Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay on Twitter)

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And we're back!

The audio/noise quality is... interesting this week, because one of us is recording from the wilderness of Northern New York. Despite the medieval quality of Matt's living situation right now, he managed to finish that 6 hours of masterful filmmaking that is Angels in America!

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co-hosted by Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay)

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Happy Pride, Marilyn! Matt & Rob Tiemstra are back for the first of our Pride Month Specials - Angels in America, the Tony Award winning play that became the Emmy Award Winning HBO miniseries!

We're taking a week off the podcast due to Matt's schedule, but we'll be back on June 16th with Part 2 of this two part Magnum Opus of Theater: Perestroika!

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Episode Produced & Edited by Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)

Co-Hosted by Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay)

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It all begins tonight as the Tiemstra Bros. jet their way onto the west side for a tale as old as Shakespeare, and as New as York! No Verona Beach to be found in this modernization.

Join us as Matt and Rob discuss accents, behind the scenes stories, brownface and hollywood street cleaning, among other topics, all to delve into a disputed classic!

Edited by Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay)

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This week, the Tiemstra brothers talk a Jazz Musical that won Best Picture in 2002: Chicago! If a movie feels like half of it was just pulled directly from the stage, is it still a good movie? We discuss that (and other tantalizing tidbits) in this Illinois-centric episode.

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Co-Hosted by Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay)

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In their first (and quite possibly only) Spielberg episode, the Tiemstra Bros discuss the WAR HORSE! It's about horses in war.

Join us as we wax philosophical about the Great War, and engage in several of the worst English accents this side of Dick Van Dyke! Also at one point Matt mistakes Lupin for Faramir - keep an ear out. 

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Welcome to episode 14 of Bros Before Shows! This week, we're discussing a watershed stage to screen adaptation in Mike Nichols' film Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf, based on the stage play by Edward Albee.*

We ramble a bit more than usual in this one, we have some fun personal anecdotes related to the material, and get to discuss the volcanic personalities of Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor. Altogether, not a terrible way to spend 30 minutes.

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Edited & Produced by Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)

Co-Hosted by Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay)

*It is Cinco De Mayo, a holiday widely celebrated by white folks who want an excuse to get devastated by booze, so this seemed like a timely choice of subject. Actually, a complete coincidence, but we won't tell if you don't.

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SHAKESPEARE SUB EPISODE #2! Things are getting Venetian in the latest Bros Before Shows as the Brothers Tiemstra tackle headlong into the 1995 version of the ~1603 classic! Will this hold up better than Baz Luhrman's R+J? Is being a respectful adaptation more important than being a daring one? Join us to find out!

Edited by Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay)

Manipulated by Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)

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The following is an apology for Rob's really bad John Cleese impression: Sorry about that.

This week, we're discussing one of our favorite film comedies, Monty Python and the Holy Grail, and the musical lovingly ripped off from it! Is it a Shrek the Musical style shameless cash cow, or a... better one than that? Listen and find out!

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Co-Hosted by Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay on Twitter)

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Step into the greatest story ever rocked as the Tiemstra Bros. review their first (and favorite) musical by Andrew Lloyd Webber - yes, it's all downhill from here. As Rob does his absolute best to piss off the ultra-conservatives on the internet and deliver head-scratchingly specific insights, Matt harps on about misplaced pantomime and what the proper term is for a salmon-colored hippie suit. HAPPY EASTER!! (and Passover)

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Edited and co-hosted by Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay)

Co-hosted by Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)

Tickets to Matt's stand-up comedy showcase on 4/17 7pm: http://gothamcomedyclub.com/event.cfm?id=483132&cart

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Join Matt & Rob as we discuss whether Tom Stoppard's masterpiece can possibly work for the screen! Sadly, the film adaptation we got provides a very convincing argument against playwrights adapting their own work to the screen.

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Produced, Edited, and Co-Hosted by Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)

Co-Hosted by Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay)

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WARNING: MATT'S AUDIO CUT OUT SO HE HAS NO PLUG THIS EPISODE! SEE BELOW FOR ALL CONTACT INFO & SOCIAL MEDIA.

Today we're talking about the Gilbert & Sullivan Operetta The Pirates of Penzance! Join us as we awkwardly impersonate opera singers and try really hard to figure out whether Opera can work on the big screen.

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Co-Hosted by Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay on Twitter)

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It's another day of sun in this SPECIAL episode where Matt and Rob talk about how the recent musical/cinematic sensation La La Land relates to stage musicals. Is Rob blinded by his love for his current city of residence? (No) Would this film pass muster if it were to appear onstage, and are we fools to dream that it might happen?

Edited by Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay)

Co-hosted by Matthew and Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)

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Content Warning: Frequent yet non-explicit references to pedophilia.

This Saint Patrick's Day, join us with Doubt! Not the feeling, but the film, an adaptation that lends itself to some powerful thoughts and discussions, featuring the return of two actresses from previous episodes and written/directed by John Patrick "Did You Know I'm From the Bronx?" Shanley!

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Co-hosted, edited and produced by Matthew Tiemstra (@ClockworkPlay)

Co-hosted by Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)

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Shrek was a 2000 animated film that pioneered the animated fantasy genre and spawned dozens of mediocre sequels (and one really good one). Shrek the Musical was a Broadway sensation in 2008 that spawned... a few catchy tunes?

Join us as we dissect this musical, rave about the original film, and try to figure out whether this Broadway adaptation was worth it in the end!

Produced & Edited by Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)

Hosted by Robert & Matthew Tiemstra (@TheTimesRat)

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The Tiemstra brothers pay a visit to the 90s in Verona Beach to review Baz Luhrmann's William Shakespeare's Romeo + Juliet. You know, the one you watched in High School that everyone inexplicably liked? With sexy 21 year old Leo DiCaprio? Yeah, that's the one.

Matt spends most of this episode groaning and swearing in the background, whilst Rob desperately searches for virtues in what (much like the choices of its' protagonists) was clearly a Murphy's law of bad ideas.

Edited and Produced by Matthew Tiemstra (@TheTimesRat)

Hosted by Matthew and Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)

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This week we are discussing a musical we have both seen live on stage, which became an Oscar Winning motion picture, Dreamgirls! A film snubbed by the Oscars for best picture before people could tweet #OscarsSoWhite

Join us as we struggle to call Deena and Effie the proper names while praising their performances!

Produced and Edited by Robert Tiemstra (@the_timestar on Twitter & Instagram)

Hosted by Robert and Matthew Tiemstra (@TheTimesRat on Twitter)

PLUGS:

'Sweet Memories', a comedic sketch written & directed by Robert Tiemstra: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxA_Vgp5Fl8&feature=youtu.be

'The Philosophy of Westworld', a video essay co-directed by Robert: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1j2Q8yXx7vY

'10 Best Musical Numbers in Film', a clickbait article written by Robert: http://whatculture.com/film/10-best-musical-numbers-in-film

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An EXTRA LONG AWARDS SEASON SPECIAL!

Today the Tiemstra Brothers delve into the very recent and long overdue adaptation of August Wilson's Fences, directed by and starring Denzel Washington, and featuring the apparently supporting acting of Viola Davis.

Episode Produced & Edited by Matthew Tiemstra (@TheTimesRat)

Hosted by Matthew & Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar)

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Rob's new sketch "Sweet Memories" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxA_Vgp5Fl8

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As red blooded American Millenials, we grew up on the tales Disney told to us, that it in turn ripped off from older versions of the same stories. Today, the Tiemstra Bros. tackle the 1994 classic The Lion King, and its 1996 translation to Broadway under the direction of auteur mad woman Julie Taymor!

Episode Produced & Edited by Robert Tiemstra

Hosted by Robert & Matthew Tiemstra

As always, follow our hosts on social media: Robert Tiemstra (@The_Timestar), and Matthew Tiemstra (@TheTimesRat).

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In Episode 2, the Tiemstra Bros. go on a witch hunt for good stage-film adapting in the 1996 film of Arthur Miller's The Crucible, starring a distractingly hot Daniel Day-Lewis. Is he going to save HIS NAME!!? Are we going to sell our friends? Can Rob name 10 writers that were affected by the Hollywood blacklist? And will Matt ever plug his correct twitter handle at the end?

Produced and Edited by Matthew Tiemstra (@TheTimesRat)

Hosted by Matthew and Robert Tiemstra (@TheTimeStar)

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Into the woods, it's time to go/record an episode of this show/into the woods, the pace is slow/and Rob Marshall's a burden!

For the pilot episode of Bros Before Shows, we're tackling one incredible 1980s stage musical turned into a watchable film in 2014. Enjoy listening to us struggle to stay on topic while we discuss this fairy tale classic.

EDIT: We are well aware that we gave the wrong twitter handle for Matt. This was recorded 3 weeks ago, give us a break.

Produced & Edited by Robert Tiemstra (@the_timestar)

Hosted by Robert & Matthew Tiemstra (@TheTimesRat)

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