The Beyond Boss Podcast: Recent Episodes
Caitlin Thomas
Hosted by Beyond Boss Founder and CEO, Caitlin Thomas, a wife, mother of two, professional photographer, and lifelong entrepreneur. A warm and enriching space with a sprinkle of city and sass, the Beyond Boss Podcast shows us that with a little heart and a lot of determination you’re going to get where you are supposed to be!
Podcast segments are centered around life, relationships, careers, and motherhood where we are focused on our listeners feeling heard and growing in confidence.
This is a super special episode because we're here with Team Beyond Boss!
Get to know us, what advice we’d give to one another in our different phases of life, finding your bliss, and what is most important when it comes to your career journey.
Also, a new and very exciting Beyond Boss announcement is made at the end of the episode!
As a momma of two who was struggling with confidence in a few areas, Caitlin decided to try Cool Sculpting at the Skin Center. Join us for Part III of our 3 part series with the Skin Center. In this episode, Catilin is chatting with the Skin Center to continue busting myths and answer your most burning questions!
On this episode of the Beyond Boss Podcast, we're sitting down with Amy Tangerine, a craft booker, author, huge inspiration to our team, mama, and lover of rainbows.
We're talking about crafting a life that is fulfilling, exciting, and evolves with you as you grow, as well as why finding harmony is so important.
Read our show notes here.
Today, we're bringing you Part Two in a three-part series with our friends from the Skin Center! We're chatting with Beth, a nurse practitioner, about preventative botox and what that means for you!
Take a listen to find out how you can receive $100 off your next treatment at the Skin Center.
We're so excited to present to you the first episode in a series of several episodes with or Beyond Boss Insiders members. We will be talking with women from a variety of industries about how they have overcome every hurdle to get to where they are today.
Our first episode features Nicole Burlbaugh, a Senior Business Systems Analyst at PNC Bank. She went from a hairdresser to almost quitting college, to a successful woman in the tech industry while facing adversity, including struggling with celiac disease.
Read our show notes here.
The first episode in a series of 3 mini-episodes with the Skin Center! Today, we're chatting with expert injector Laura, who has been injecting at the Skin Center for 20+ years. We're lifting the curtain on Botox and playing some fact or fiction to get all the answers we're looking for!
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We're kicking off Season 2 of the Beyond Boss Podcast with Mecca Gamble, a brand photographer, entrepreneur, and business coach based in Atlanta, Georgia. In this episode, we're talking about pivoting in your career, deciding what makes you tick in your business, and finding some way to balance your ambitions in your career with your real life.
View the show notes here.
We are chatting with Holly Teegarden, the owner of Pittsburgh House of Oils. She is an entrepreneur, wife, mom, and advocate for autism. Join us as we talk about how you just can't do it all, and that's okay.
On today's episode, Caitlin is talking with Jessi Johansson, the Creative Director at Henne Jewelers. Join us as we talk about our careers, life, and being diagnosed with autism as an adult.
This episode is sponsored by Henne Jewelers
Join us for a real, uncut recording of our Summer Kick-Off Panel on May 23rd in Pittsburgh, PA. We gathered for a day of community and collaboration, with a focus on reentering the "real world" without burning out. Our second panel was focused on how we can intentionally level up by following our "why".
We talk asking for help, trusting the timing of our lives, and all things authentic living.
Thank you Laurnie, Eva and Katie for talking with us, to our episode sponsor Henne Jewelers , and to DJ Digital Dave for recording for us!
This episode is sponsored by Veronica's Balloon Design and The Blue Daisy Floral.
Join us for a real, uncut recording of our Summer Kick-Off Panel on May 23rd in Pittsburgh, PA. We gathered for a day of community and collaboration, with a focus on reentering the "real world" without burning out. Our first panel was centered on the lessons we learned in 2020, surviving a pandemic and unrest, and how we can apply them to our lives and careers going forward.
We talk financial uncertainty, fear, customer service, social media, and all the really "FUN" parts of 2020, and how we have overcome them.
Thank you Rachel, Bri and Jameeta for talking with us, to our episode sponsors, and to DJ Digital Dave for recording for us!
Listen in to hear my story of pivoting from a full-time wedding photography career to splitting my time and filling my cup. On this episode, I am talking about how times of stress or discomfort or just plain boredom can be a good indicator that it is time to make a change. If you’re feeling stuck in your career or business, this episode is for you! Three steps you can take to figure out what the heck is next for you: Evaluate what you really want To feel Financially Your goals Your why (listen to episode 27 with Eva Lin Douglass and episode 22 with Laurnie Wilson for a deeper dive on this topic) What are you an expert in? What makes your heart sing? Ask the people closest to you what they think you are an expert in. What do they come to you for advice on? What do they think really lights you up? What is your budget and how could you free up some time to pursue your passions?
Today on the podcast, we are chatting with Rachel Rowland, a Pittsburgh-based wedding and portrait photographer and one of the best in the business. We are talking about how to build a business based on relationships, how to create reciprocal relationships, and how to soar in your career without burning out. Today's episode is brought to you by Henne Jewelers, located in Pittsburgh and online at hennejewelers.com.
On today's episode, Caitlin chats with Sydney Smyers of Know Your Worth Pgh. Sydney left her corporate job to pursue her own bookkeeping company and the girl has taken off! Listen now to find out what you need to do to get your finances in check.
Everything you need to know about developing a web presence with sisters and founders of Waterloo Street, a website design agency based in Pittsburgh.
Many of us think about women’s health and immediately go to birth control and abortion, but the reality is that women’s bodies are far more complex than our male counterparts, and the science behind our bodies is lagging many decades behind what we know about men's bodies.
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Today, in addition to maintaining her sobriety and advocating for others to start their journey, she is a wife, an expectant mama, and a customer experience master. If you take away one thing from this episode, it should be that everyone has a story, and your ability to live a life that makes your heart sing is not determined by the things that you have experienced. Fear and doubt will always be a part of your journey, but you have the choice to push forward.
My favorite quote from todays episode is our title: "your journey does not determine your destination".
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On this episode of the podcast we are discussing being a hustler and working hard, with soul, versus succumbing to hustle culture and burnout. We see hustle culture as a cake with beautiful fondant icing…the inside is the good part. Join us as we talk through this important topic for every working woman!
View our show notes at: https://www.beyond-boss.com/blog/2021/02/28/show-notes-the-journey-to-self-love-with-kelsey-breisinger/
Have you find yourself believing that self care is either massages, bubble baths, and rest, OR therapy and exercise? All of this is important, but you might be missing major opportunities to life a more fulfilling life if you are not hitting each level of Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs in your forms of self care.
Check out this episodes show notes and more information at www.beyond-boss.com/blog/2021/02/21/4-forms-of-self-care/.
Jessica Baker is a Pittsburgh area realtor, momma of two, and a boss who is growing her team, leveling up, and scaling her business by the day.
Check out the show notes here: https://www.beyond-boss.com/blog/2021/02/04/podcast-episode-23-laughing-down-the-aisle-w-jameeta-lewis-davis/
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Hearing how Laurnie helps her clients to explore their purpose using hypnotherapy and other techniques, including self-hypnosis is incredibly inspiring. Listen in and enjoy.
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We talk:
- Find yourself hyper-focused on all the things that ultimately do not bring us joy, like weight loss and higher incomes.
- How your mindset shift to this actually can result in those less important goals being met.
- We can be passive or active about how we look at the previous year and compare it to today.
- Setting active goals for your professional life, health, family, and mental health.
- Seeking help when things like vision planning feel completely impossible.
Some active vs. passive goal ideas:
- Improve overall physical health VS. lose 20 lbs.
- Align marketing and personal brand w/ my ideal client and market to them VS. increase clients 50%
- Increase intentional, meaningful time with my kids VS. only 30 minutes of screen time per day.
Post about this episode and tag #DOWNWITHNEWYEARNEWME and @beyondboss_ @jessmgun_ and share your ACTIVE goals!
Sara is a sustainability consultant and host of the Make Climate Cool Again Podcast. She has worked with some of the biggest names in the fashion and beauty industry to help them be more green. After graduating from Columbia University with a degree in Sustainable Business, Sara went on to create a career that she loves, helping others learn to serve their planet.
So we know this concept is important, but it is also somewhat overwhelming when you look at the big picture. Sara is helping us to zoom in on small steps that we can take that will make a big impact.
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Raya is a personal finance coach for women who was a chronic spender until she launched City Girl Savings. She was able to create a solid budgeting plan that allowed her to continue to enjoy life as a lover of travel.
Have you asked yourself any of these questions? Listen in to see what Raya has to say.
- Why is it so incredibly important to have a budget?
- So many people feel like a budget is squashing their freedom, but I feel like a solid budget actually GIVES you the freedom to do more. Would you agree?
- If someone hates budgeting, how should they get started?
- Let’s talk about “debt-free lifestyles” vs. budgeting.
- How to enjoy your life on a budget.
- How to start a savings plan.
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As women, we need to learn to detach ourselves from the idea of being perfect. We have to unhook ourselves from the idea that we can do it all. We have to learn to delegate and let go of control, and when we are doing that, we are also giving others more opportunities to advance.
You cannot just leave your work stress at the door. There is no true “leave it at the office” for stress and anxiety. These vibrations and energy live in our bodies, creating toxic amounts of stress that need to be released. We think that when we get busy at work we will magically get through it if we just buckle down and work harder. Then we punish ourselves and Maria says that this comes from the core belief that we are not enough.
This vicious cycle of getting exhausted and riddled by stress and anxiety leads us to lower productivity. We can use movement and yoga to move from the sympathetic nervous system (fight or flight) to a parasympathetic nervous system (restored sense of calm). This is incredibly important when managing stress at work. Taking a walk, stretching, or practicing yoga can help us become more aligned, enjoy our lives more, and become more productive.
What does all of this mean? LEVELING UP BOO, and we love to see it.
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Listen, if you are not planning for next year yet, you are missing a huge opportunity to set an incredible framework for your 2021. A foundation to build confidence in your abilities, crush your goals, and find time to lay in a bubble bath on the reg. Check out all of our planning info on the Beyond Boss Blog! You can sign up for ClickUp for free and get your life organized at www.clickup.com
Statistics say that 47.8% of the private workforce as of 2015 was employed by a small business. This year, more than 76% of small businesses are reporting being moderately or severely affected by COVID-19. Yet, Amazon is estimated to earn $120 BILLION in their 4th quarter this year.
Studies show that for every $100 that is spent at local small businesses, 68 of those dollars are spent back in the community. This episode reminds us all how important it is to shop small when possible, especially this year.
Meet Emma and Hannah Wojtowicz, sisters and owners of BlushTan Pittsburgh, a body-positive spray tanning salon. On this episode of the podcast, we are chatting about the fashion and beauty industry, and how Emma and Hannah are dedicated to creating a body-positive beauty business. As young models they experienced the crushing, consuming pressure to maintain a certain size and image, which led Emma to develop an eating disorder. This experience led them to find BlushTan, whose mission is to be a safe space for all women to feel beautiful. Today they are co-owners, co-workers, and roommates, living a healthier lifestyle both physically and emotionally. Their passion for making women feel beautiful and confident is contagious. After listening, book your appointment for SUGARING, the latest service from BlushTan Pittsburgh. Sugaring is an all-natural, organic hair removal method that is less painful and easier to maintain than traditional waxing. You can find them on Instagram: @blushtan_pgh @emma__august @hannah_honey @sugared_at_blush www.blushtan.com/pittsburgh
This year has not been easy of any of us, and the toll that it has taken on women and families is unfathomable. The National Women’s Law Center reported that out of the 1.1 million jobs that were lost in September, 80% were women. No, this is not normal, nor is it forever.
You can read the full jobs report here.
We want all of our listeners to know that they are not alone. That your feelings are valid, even if there are people who have experienced things in a more intense way than you have, OR if your friends are “over the pandemic and do not care anymore”. Even if your problem today is that you are overwhelmed with your family and they forgot your dang waffle fries.
Human beings are not designed to live in the way that we have been asked to live in the last few months. We are designed for human connection. For collaboration. For touch and hugs and laughter.
We HAVE to find workarounds. We HAVE to continue to take care of ourselves. We have to ask for help and offer help.
We invite you to call a friend, grab a cup of coffee or a glass of wine, and have the conversation that we had on this episode.
- Phrases we are tired of hearing.
- What has been the hardest thing.
- What we have learned/career pivots.
- Things that we have changed in our lifestyles.
- Finding your threshold/filling your COVID cup.
- Three things we promise each other that we will do for ourselves.
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Episode 11 - Lindsey, CEO of Plain Jane
AFFORDABILITY + IMPROVING LIVES
When Lindsey Was diagnosed with ulcerative colitis she needed something to help ease her symptoms and found weed and CBD to be incredibly cost prohibitive.
Being the boss that she is, she decided that it was time to get into the CBD business and use her public policy education and experience to make this life altering product widely available to people of all incomes.
[03:00]
“I started smoking weed again. Still hated getting paranoid, but I found out about CBD, which has all the cannabinoids basically that weed has, and it doesn't give you that same high, which is the part that I didn't like. So I was smoking a ton of weed and CBD and it was really expensive”
FEAR + EXPECTATIONS
Growing up believing that she had to be incredibly successful and productive in order to have self-worth, Lindsey struggled with the idea of what people would think about her when she left a good job to waitress and start a CBD company.
[05:52]
“There's always a way that you can make money, but it's more like, what are people going to think about me? Are they going to think that, like, I'm wasting my life, I'm wasting my degrees.
So I really had to just get over what people thought of me and their expectations of me, because if I thought about that, I would just stay in a job that I didn't love because other people had these expectations. “
YOUR PERSONAL IDENTITY
When she started to plan for leaving her job, Lindsey was terrified to let go of her identity: the smart kid with a masters degree. At the end of the day she was able to do the things that she really wanted to do when stopped using who she thought she was as her source of validation, something that she suggests all women examine in themselves.
[07:21]
“People use their career as their identity and their source of validation. And for a little while I did too. I was like, oh, my identity is that I'm smart and I get straight A's and I have a master's degree and I'm like, I know all these things and I use that as my identity. And I was scared to let go of that. Who am I if I'm not smart enough for not making a change in the world?”
[07:59]
“You have to let go of using your career or whatever you think your source of validation is to actually do the things that you want to do.”
CONFIDENCE IN BUSINESS AS A WOMAN
We chatted a lot about being women and business and having self-confidence and belief in our worthiness.
It is incredibly unfortunate that women have to be 1000% confident in what they are doing before they take the leap, well men are often born with an innate confidence that allows them to reach for their goals and dreams without constantly second-guessing themselves.
[09:01]
“If I had the confidence that a man had, like my two co-founders had all the confidence in the world and I had no confidence, I was like, why? Why do I think I can run a business? And I think it took me like a year of running the business and doing really well. I was still questioning myself. I was still feeling like a fraud”
[09:21]
“I was like, is this me? Am I doing this? How is this going so well? This is just luck. So it took me a really long time to have the confidence to be like, wow, I can run a business where a lot of men, I wouldn't say all, but a lot of men just wake up with that confidence. And women have to be like really, really a thousand percent sure and overqualified to go after anything.”
FAKING IT TILL YOU MAKE IT
So much of life is faking it until you make it. A lot of the confidence that we have in our careers comes not only from your gender at birth, but the class that we were born into, our current socioeconomic status, our family, and the way that we were raised.
[11:51]
“Like, let's just let's just admit nobody knows. We don't know where we're making up the like all the laws and regulations now everyone's making it up. No one has any idea, really. That's how things I mean, working for the legislature, that's how things happen. Nobody really knows. And someone's gotta figure it out. Maybe it'll change, maybe it won't because nobody really knows. But I think being a woman, but also not having a lot of resources and not having a lot of money, those two things like the class that you're born into has a lot to do with your confidence level. And so like me, like going to college, being the first one to go to college, I was terrified.”
SOLVING A PROBLEM FOR YOUR CUSTOMER
It is incredibly important to base your business around a problem that you are solving for your customer. If you haven’t thought about that in your small business, it’s time to sit down with a pen and paper and start writing out what problems your customer might have and how you already solve them or how you could solve them with a new product or service, and what other types of people could you solve problems for with your product or service?
[18:53]
“I think that the reason the company is doing so well is because I created the company to solve a problem. And I think those are the best types of companies because you're solving your own problem. Other people might be having these problems. Basically, it was access to affordable flower for people that needed it.”
PUTTING THE THINGS YOU WANT TO DO OUT INTO THE UNIVERSE
[28:48]
“That's another thing to tell people, put it out into the universe. Because when I quit my job, I was like, I want to go work at a tech startup on the West Coast. And I'm not at a tech startup, but my co-founder worked for a tech company before. And both of them went to MIT. So it was like not exactly where I thought I would land, but just throwing that out there will maybe give you the first step.”
THERE IS NO BALANCE
This concept can be so hard for many of us to wrap our brains around. There is no balance. There will be years of sacrifice when you are starting a business or a new career path, and it won’t be easy. There will be long nights, early mornings, and if you are lucky enough to have a supportive partner prior to starting that business, there will be a lot of sacrifice for both of you as you grow.
Stop imagining that you can “do it all” well. It is about prioritizing and sacrificing to build the life that you are imagining.
[35:50]
“It's really, really, really hard to find a balance. I wish there were an easier answer to that. And I wish that I could say, like, oh, you're going to be able to do it But sometimes when you're thinking about starting a business, you're just going to have to just sacrifice a lot.”
Thanks to Lindsey and Plain Jane for offering our listeners 15% off at TRYPLAINJANE.COM with code beyondboss.
Guest Info:
Bri Conley is the owner of No.14 Boutique in Pittsburgh, PA and the powerhouse behind her new brand, Sister Bloom. She lives in a renovated row house with her husband Eric and their dog Roo. She is a cheerleader for other women, and one of the hardest workers that I know.
On Today's Episode
We are chatting about how the COVID-19 crisis and quarantine has forced us to "pivot", and the importance of not letting fear win. The take home? The people that are doing the things that you want to do are also scared, but they keep going.
Thank you to Emily Austin for joining me for a conversation about staying grounded and practicing self care during the COVID-19 virus outbreak.
Emily is a mom of two, a wife, and a Realtor. She suffers from chronic migraines after a traumatic brain injury and was recently diagnosed with thyroid cancer. She has shared much of her journey of self care in chaos, and her thyroid cancer journey on her instagram, @mrsemilyaustin.
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Things are chaotic. We need to learn to quiet our minds, turn off the TV, stop scrolling, and just BE. Fear and worry will always exist, but with a few techniques you can survive this with minimal anxiety,
Here is our advice:
- Practice mindfulness and deep breathing. Even if it means 60 seconds.
- Use an app for guided meditation.
- Stay in a routine. Set a bedtime and a wake up time.
- Eat regular meals, even if you feel anxious.
- Go for a walk in the fresh air. Move your body! It keeps your immune system strong.
- Set boundaries with friends and family. Know that it is OK to say “no, I don’t want to leave the house”.
- Know that this too shall pass.
Are you suddenly a work from home mom? Whoops. Didn’t anticipate that. HELLO CORONA VIRUS.
I have been a work from home mama for 3.5 years now, and I have a few tips to help get you through.
- Plan some age appropriate activities the night before. Then you don’t have to worry about what the heck to do with the kids the next morning. If they are school age and have work to do, have that ready to go.
- Get on a schedule! Wakeup before you kids for self care time. You will be consumed all day with work AND kids. Wake the kids up at their normal wake up time. Have breakfast as a family. Then get to work. If your kids are young, they won’t be used to being at home with you working. Sorry. This will be hard. Occupy their time and plan time blocks for what you will do during the day. Accomplish the hardest tasks you have while they are occupied. Don’t answer emails during their occupied time, save that for when they are nagging you. It is easier to respond to emails with screaming kids than it is to accomplish hard tasks.
- You will ALL need to learn to work around each other.
- Remember to eat and drink water.
- Take moments to breath. This is hard. That is OK.
- Screen time is not the devil. Plan for blocks of it throughout the day between activities and independent play (let them do this as much as possible. DO NOT GIVE THEM AN ACTIVITY IF THEY ARE HAPPY TO PLAY ALONE. Let them entertain themselves. That is HEALTHY. You are not their school teacher. This is not school). You have to work and you do not need to feel guilty about that fact. THEY WILL LIVE.
- Remember that this will pass. It will be ok. You’ve got this!
Eeek! It is my first solo episode. Jess will be joining us occasionally, but as she branches out to start her own business (please visit her at www.jessmcgun.com and @jessmcgun on IG), she is spending a lot of time focusing on her venture, so here I am, riding solo!
Turning a Hobby or Passion into a Side Hustle or Full Time Business * The reality is not everyone is meant to start a business and that is OK. (This post on the Beyond Boss Instagram was popular) + You do not need to own a business to be a boss. Full stop. + Do not compare yourself to on the internet and feel like a loser for going to your 9-5 paying into that 401k. + There is no shame in working full time or being at home with your kids. * Starting before you are “ready” because you will never fully be ready. * Making sure you are financially prepared. There are absolutely going to be sacrifices and risks along the way, but how much risk is too much risk for you and your family. Hire a tax professional. Seriously, just do it. * Be realistic about the time that it will take. You will not start a business and be an overnight success. It just does not happen that way. * Support system. You need one. Beyond your family, friends, and partner. Hire professionals. Hire a coach, hire a therapist.
So you started your business. It is a lot. Now what.
- Set a schedule. Whether your gig is a full time business or a side hustle you are handling after your 9-5. Plan out your time. Your time is valuable.
- Systems to make sure things get done and your client/customer is having great experiences, and you are finding some balance in your life.
- Honestly, it just takes time and experience. You will stumble A LOT. But you will learn how to answer to yourself, how to manage your time, and how to earn your "freedom"
- Be prepared to fail. It happens. But babies don't just start walking one day. They get up, they fall, they cry, and they do it all over again.
- Therapist and business coaches are not for people who are lost and stuck. Get them. Pay them for their experience. Get a mentor.. You need to having sounding boards that are not just your partner.
- Speaking of which, making sure you are on the same page as your partner because it can be tough. Communicate about expectations!
Conclusion.
- Not everyone NEEDS to start a business. Not everyone should.
- If you are waiting for the right time, that isn’t going to happen.
- So are you fearful or smart?
- Prepare financially. Be realistic about goals.
- How much time is this/will this really take?
- Support system.
- SCHEDULE AND SYSTEMS
- Be prepared to fail and look dumb. Some people won't get it. Some people will think you look silly. Those are not your people.
- Get a coach. Get a mentor. Do the work.
- Hang in there. xoxo
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Whether you're an entrepreneur or a SAHM, this applies to YOU. Let's chat about escaping the lonely funk of "I am all alone and I suck at everything".
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Does your social drain your time and energy? Do you shout "IS SHE SERIOUS?! WHY!" at your phone? Girl, listen up! Read Jess' post on sprucing up that social here.
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Let's chat about finding ways to manage our New Year expectations and goal setting, while remaning realistic and productive.
This episode is a little bit of a pat on the back, and a little bit of a kick in the back.
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On today’s episode (our very first!) let’s talk about how to be a person that enters into collaborations with your heart.
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