Talk About That: Recent Episodes

Talk About That Podcast

Author John Driver sits down with comedian Jonnie W. and other friends for funny, personal, and ultimately real life conversations about life as creatives, faith, and culture. Interesting guests also occasionally stop by or call in for interviews on the latest happenings.

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John puts himself on the (literal) hot seat and buys a Cadillac made of gold. Meanwhile, Jonnie tells us about the "Dancing Plague" of the 16th Century and the strange reason ketchup was invented.

Plus, a conversation about the difference between healthy confidence and a self-destructive ego.

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John stays in a hiking lodge with strangers and tells us why some things are better off being dirty. Meanwhile, Jonnie has a mishap trimming his goatee and reveals the pecking order of entertainers.

Plus, a conversation about Self-Talk and why your words may matter more than you think.

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John wants to take a long train ride and is exhausted by AI deep fake videos. Meanwhile, Jonnie gets a Facebook comment that is actually helpful and makes a big splash when he reveals his very first memory from childhood.

Plus, a conversation about how the movies and media we consume shape our personality and core values.

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John defies his GPS and begrudgingly admits his father's motto was actually pretty great. Meanwhile, Jonnie brags about his elite status on a budget airline and tells the story of the time a solar eclipse stopped a war and led to a royal wedding.

Plus, a conversation about validating our feelings without always being driven by them.

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John has specific instructions for his wife when he dies, and reveals his obsession with vice grip pliers. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders the real villain of the Titanic movie and tells the strange story of how government-imported camels in the 1800's led to ghost sightings in Arizona.

Plus, a conversation about contemplation, and the power our thoughts have over the direction of our lives.

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John critiques the Big Mac and tries to be productive, but only if he can track it on his phone. Meanwhile, Jonnie has a decade-old video go viral and does a Maypole dance against his Mom’s wishes.

Plus, a conversation about dopamine addiction and the urge to oversimplify problems that need more nuance.

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John gets invited by Jonnie to a gender reveal party for an insect and refuses to get his brain hacked by Elon Musk. Meanwhile, Jonnie thinks Abe Lincoln should’ve seen a dermatologist and tells us the history of the zipper.

Plus, a conversation about emotional maturity and the right way to change someone’s mind.

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John tries to stop his head from shining, and tells us the illustrious history of the Slurpee. Meanwhile, Jonnie goes to a 20 year old movie, and shares the story of the time Winnie the Pooh got sued for assault.

Plus, a conversation about side-hustles, impostor syndrome, and why some of our favorite people doubt their abilities.

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John teaches us about the history of candy and ponders growing a skullet. Meanwhile, Jonnie has a senior moment at the movie theater and tries to find out why Betty Ford danced on a table at the White House

Plus, a conversation about how difficulties and trials tend to deepen our relationships.

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John ponders whether anyone "hate listens" to the show and makes sermon illustrations out of old cartoons. Meanwhile, Jonnie tells us why the first cell phone call was used to troll a competitor and what he learned from Jim Carrey about being a comedian.

Plus, a conversation about human nature, humility, and why "Main Character Energy" isn't the flex you think it is.

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John gets bougie with the sideline snacks for his daughter's volleyball game and wonders if Daniel from the Bible snuggled with the lions. Meanwhile, Jonnie gives us the strange history of the washing machine and gets intimidated at an event when he hears the list of previous keynote speakers.

Plus, a conversation about virtuous leadership, honor, and the main thing George Washington got right.

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John gets secret messages in his ear during worship and ponders whether we need merch. Meanwhile, Jonnie gets interviewed by an 80's comedy icon and tells us the demographic breakdown of his fanbase.

Plus, a conversation about reactionaryism, revolution, and choosing hope over fear.

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John ponders how many pics of his kid is too many and vigorously defends coconut. Meanwhile, Jonnie reveals what all rock band photos have in common and finds out the terrible original name for the Girl Scouts.

Plus, a conversation about The Sermon on the Mount and why it's needed now more than ever.

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John tells us about his short-lived career as a rapper and ponders how much protection his book would offer against a would be assassin. Meanwhile, Jonnie changes his rock band's name way too many times and tries in vain to stop a rodent infestation.

Plus, a conversation about how God shapes us through pain and disappointment, and why that's actually a good thing.

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John reads a listener email and wishes we could be a zany Morning Zoo Radio Show. Meanwhile, Jonnie has an important retraction from last week (because he is stupid) and tells us about some wild wedding proposals on Leap Day in 13th Century Scotland.

Plus, a conversation about neighbors, enemies, and America's addiction to grievance.

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John cleans out his office and gets mad at his younger self while listening to some old tapes. Meanwhile, Jonnie tells us the history of the windshield wiper and the story of a man whose own hanging could not stop him from roasting the grammar of his captors.

Plus, a conversation about certainty and humility—and why a clear path may not always be the best one.

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John does some retail therapy and ponders a bold new way to reduce his screen time. Meanwhile, Jonnie hits the road with way too much luggage and tells the strange history of the Patron Saint of Toothaches.

Plus, a conversation about vulnerability and why a life without humility is so dangerous.

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"You do not need to know precisely what is happening or exactly where it is all going. What you need is to recognize the possibilities and challenges offered by the present moment and to embrace them with courage, faith, and hope." - Thomas Merton. In this episode, we have a conversation about the "pursuit of happiness" and why adapting to challenges is a far better goal.

Plus, John gets a 4-year college scholarship using only a roll of tape and ponders becoming a plumber. Meanwhile, Jonnie changes his mind about seatbelt laws and celebrates the 21st anniversary of the best/worst invention of our lifetime.

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Bertrand Russell said, “There is much pleasure to be gained from useless knowledge.” If there was ever a flagship quote for our podcast, is this it? Are we drowning in knowledge? Is knowing too much actually harming our brains? In today's episode, a conversation about information overload in the age of the internet and whether knowing too much is killing our brains.

Plus, John does his best cat impression for some voiceover work and helps explain when an outfit becomes a getup. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders whether he could defeat John in an armored battle and why so many political fights in history ended with someone being beaten with a cane.

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"Until you make the unconscious conscious, it will direct your life, and you will call it fate." - Carl Jung. Self-awareness is a double-edged sword. Too much of it and you can become an introspective navel gazer. But at the same time, as John Calvin said, "without knowledge of self, there is no knowledge of God." In this episode, John and Jonnie talk about what healthy self-awareness looks like versus unhealthy navel-gazing. While we aren’t able to control everything that happens to us, we are given some agency in some aspects of life - and good therapy and healthy self-awareness can help us see the difference. And this isn’t just humanism - understanding yourself is part of understanding the gospel.

Plus, John gets a fancy new watch and helps Jonnie confront a scammer on the phone. Meanwhile, Jonnie writes a new jingle for a prescription drug and takes credit for a friend's Grammy nomination.

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John comes in second place A LOT and tries his best to look menacing on his way to Walgreens. Meanwhile, Jonnie eats way too many caramels and learns that the most highly ranked restaurants are also selling car parts.

Plus, a conversation about the trap of comparison and how to enjoy the one life you've been given. We make a lot of resolutions this time of year, things we plan to do... but is there anything you ought to "undo" as the new year begins?

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"He who fears he shall suffer, already suffers what he fears." - Michel de Montaigne. This guy said that in the 1500s… so anxiety has been around for a while. In this episode of Talk About That, we talk about fear and worry - is there a way to get better at worry? Can we worry less in 2025? Is that a resolution we can keep? Listen in to our conversation about gratitude and actively looking for the good in the world as an antidote for anxiety.

Plus, John thinks he worries better than you do and finds a magical hat in the strangest place. Meanwhile, Jonnie has an idea to bring folks back to the movie theatre, and tells us how the US almost got a pinstriped flag.

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John has a new name for December 23rd and has an Elf on the Shelf that refuses to move. Meanwhile, Jonnie does an indoor show without any heat and searches for a lucky pickle in his Christmas tree.

Plus, a conversation about the right perspective when facing obstacles and inconveniences.

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John becomes an impromptu firefighter and turns Jonnie's rental car story into a sermon illustration. Meanwhile, Jonnie gets flagged at the airport and tells us the real reason "It's a Wonderful Life" became a classic.

Plus, a conversation about self-righteousness and the temptation to make the gospel about "other more sinful people" when it's really about us.

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John questions Santa's delivery route and takes a private jet straight to prison. Meanwhile, Jonnie has his rental car confiscated in the middle of the night, and tells the story of the time Winston Churchill got a prescription for booze.

Plus, a conversation about Advent, waiting, and the beauty of brokenness.

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John tells us why we really eat turkey at Thanksgiving and is forced to perform in a talent show before he can join the feast. Meanwhile, Jonnie defends the lowly Sloppy Joe as a quality sandwich and tells the tale of the woman so cheap she made nightgowns out of newspapers.

Plus, a conversation about what it really means to "prepare a table for us in the presence of our enemies” and why some people are disappointed by God's mercy towards others.

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John doesn't remember a popular clothing brand and almost falls for a piano scam. Meanwhile, Jonnie nearly has a wardrobe malfunction and argues that your blue jeans don't belong in the freezer.

Plus, a conversation about the courage it takes to hope and why the next generation may actually be getting tired of cynicism.

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John defends green peppers, eats gum wrappers, and needs a hobby. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders why people romanticize medieval times and reveals the surprising reason the sandwich was really invented.

Plus, a conversation about wisdom and foolishness, and how the internet has robbed us of contemplation before rendering an opinion.

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John keeps a secret folder of phrases to make himself look cool at parties and invents a clothing line. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders people who pray with one eye open and tells the story of the man who was jailed for 7 years for smoking tobacco.

Plus, a conversation about the one thing wise and stupid people have in common.

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John gets frustrated with ChatGPT and wants to be a monk (except for the silence part). Meanwhile, Jonnie stays at a hotel with a fancy television and thinks his wife may have stolen several pair of slippers.

Plus, a conversation about prosperity, giving, and surrender.

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John tells us why he just can't lick his fingers anymore and gets jealous of the Bachelor. Meanwhile, Jonnie dishes on an exciting delivery to the old ‘Beverly Hills 90210’ set and gets irritated by fancy ketchup at restaurants.

Plus, a conversation about talent vs discipline and why repetition matters more than you think.

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John gets played by his own dog and ponders a replacement for smart phones. Meanwhile, Jonnie learns about pandas who fake pregnancy and how Abe Lincoln got body-shamed by an 11-year old girl.

Plus, a conversation about forgiveness and grace as a habitual act.

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John looks bad in volleyball shorts and talks to a coconut. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders the origin of the “redshirt freshman” in football and why the Beatles’ biggest hit was almost a song about breakfast.

Plus, a conversation about the subtle difference between a wise person and a fool.

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Take a journey with us through these important topics:

  • John and Jonnie W. discuss the origin of the term "red shirt" in football, speculating it might be related to blood or injuries.
  • Ohio State football and coaching strategies
  • The challenges faced by young quarterbacks and the pressure of living up to expectations.
  • John and Jonnie W. discuss the metaphorical nature of the armor of God and how it should be understood in a broader context.
  • Reminisce with us about our time in youth ministry and the challenges of leading young adult ministries.
  • John and Jonnie W. discuss the rules and techniques of fastpitch softball, including the windup and the leg kick.
  • The societal pressures of hair loss and the options available for treatment, plus other absurd vanity measures like calf implants and hair transplants.
  • Loving Enemies and Christian Identity: resolving conflicts within the body of Christ and loving those who hate us.
  • Plus meteorite strikes, amazon crash survivors and more!

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John supersizes his game day food and ponders a time before cellphones ruined us. Meanwhile, Jonnie tells us why a picnic is no picnic and reveals how a little citrus saved some British sailors.

Plus, a conversation about goals and systems, and why one is more important than the other.

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John ponders neural implants and whether he’d want to control devices with his mind. Meanwhile, Jonnie tells us about the guy who saved the entire world from annihilation by not doing his job, and shares the absolute worst inspiration Bible verse if you are a a wrestler.

Plus, a conversation about the broken two-party system and the importance of seeing the humanity in people with whom you disagree.

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John and Jonnie chat about the pros and cons of performing at a music festival. Then, Jonnie tells the tale of the very first chiropractor and shares some old jokes about changing light bulbs.

Plus, a conversation about anxiety and brokenness, and why we need the proper perspective during hard times.

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John gets a present straight from the garbage and starts a militia. Meanwhile, Jonnie wrecks his first car spectacularly and tells us about the longest baseball game in history.

Plus, a conversation about choosing hope over fear and how our actions can make deserts or forests.

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John learns the origins of the slang term “Rizz” and raises a celebratory toast to 17th century Massachusetts. Meanwhile, Jonnie haunts his own car while it’s in the repair shop and reveals why being the opener as a comedian can sometimes be a real sweet spot.

Plus, a conversation about idols and order, and how misplaced priorities can lead to all kinds of problems.

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John’s recliner dreams are dashed and he hesitates to tell strangers what he does for a living. Meanwhile, Jonnie has nightmares he can’t wake up from and argues that a very popular trilogy of movies are all about 30 minutes too long.

Plus, a conversation about how we evaluate others versus how we judge ourselves.

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John has to relearn geometry and tries his best not to be a bad sports parent. Meanwhile, Jonnie reminisces about school supplies that were also implements of carnage and reveals the history behind National Waffle Day.

Plus, a conversation about disagreeing with someone without being disagreeable.

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John tells us about some odd olympic sports that got discontinued and learns about a forbidden dance that terrified Christian parents when we were kids. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders an old joke about traffic and reveals the story of the woman behind the most iconic line from a commercial in the 1980’s.

Plus, a conversation about eternity and why it’s a lot sooner than you think.

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John thinks the Olympic Steeplechase is unnecessarily dangerous and ponders getting our old band back together as a vanity project cash grab. Meanwhile, Jonnie explains why beefs between rappers are adorable and why learning about old political scandals actually comforts him.

Plus, a conversation about faith in God that depends on an outcome vs. one that starts with a trust in His nature towards us.

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John thinks he deserves a cut of the proceeds from Jonnie’s comedy shows and dusts off his old Spanish lessons for a family trip. Meanwhile, Jonnie has the most expensive rental car ever and reveals the ordinary woman who inspired the Statue of Liberty.

Plus, a conversation about stewarding an appreciation of the world around us and why you desperately need a 13-second hug, whether you know it or not.

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John can’t spell “yogurt” and has a dog who gives himself shock therapy. Meanwhile, Jonnie isn’t sure a llama should be in your kitchen and tells us the surprising retail price of the nation’s first ballpoint pen in 1945.

Plus, a conversation about whether ignorance really is bliss and why knowing the truth makes things better, but not necessarily easier.

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John misquotes yet another popular saying and wants to die at age 100 in the most dramatic way possible. Meanwhile, Jonnie argues that “tearing it off quick like a Band Aid” is terrible advice and tells us how to inform your neighbor that their cat has died.

Plus, a conversation about vulnerability, worry, and independence—and what the Bible really means by “daily bread.”

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John becomes an overnight Lakers fan and tells us what song could be used to torture him into submission. Meanwhile, Jonnie goes to a Celine Dion concert and reveals the secret to a great comedy venue.

Plus, a conversation about prayer and how our thoughts steer the direction of our lives, for better or worse.

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John shares his supervillain origin story and why he loves sitting in a hot car (even though it might be killing him). Meanwhile, Jonnie tells an old (and pointed) joke about religion, along with the story of the Automobile Club who got busted for helping speeders avoid the cops.

Plus, a conversation about our idolization of youth, the marginalization of the elderly, and why we all need to become better listeners.

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John compares churches to soft drinks and reveals his wife’s growing (and dangerous) shoe problem. Meanwhile, Jonnie changes his mind about seatbelt laws and tells us about the time the Pope (literally) demonized cats and helped spread the Plague.

Plus, a conversation about love and risk, and why a guarded heart is like putting plastic covers on your sofa.

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John goes to a fishing rodeo and regrets not being a doomsday prepper. Meanwhile, Jonnie makes some new friends at a petting zoo and ponders being chased by 25-foot chickens.

Plus, a conversation about Main Character Syndrome, victim mentality, and how to know whether you are being persecuted or just disagreed with.

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John tells us the secret to happiness and gives his daughter (and himself) a birthday gift.

Meanwhile, Jonnie takes a bucket list trip with his 84-year old father in law and comes up with a new way to get people to look at positive news stories.

Plus, a conversation about the laziness of contrarianism and why we will be remembered for what we built, not what we've torn down.

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John tells us why he would be a terrible NASCAR driver and the boys argue over whether professional wrestlers are athletes or actors. Meanwhile, Jonnie has a run-in with the cops because he forgets his phone and tells the story of NBC’s diabolical plan to get people to buy color TVs in the 1950s.

Plus, a conversation about worry and the importance of attempting to affect the course of your thoughts.

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John goes to extreme lengths to stop his snoring and attracts some local females. Meanwhile, Jonnie’s poor eyesight almost causes a scene at the grocery store.

Plus, a conversation about letting go of our need for vengeance, and our inclination towards moral superiority.

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John ponders what the best accent is and wants to bring back the word “comeuppance.” Meanwhile, Jonnie takes his first red-eye flight and tells the story of the time Johnny Carson saved the game Twister from extinction.

Plus, a conversation about bias and why it so easy to make a hasty judgment before hearing all sides.

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John changes his mind about lunchmeat and gets kicked out of a football game. Meanwhile, Jonnie turns the tables on a police officer, and tells the tale of the “Human Fish.”

Plus, a conversation about self-esteem and the balance between knowing our value vs. over-inflating it.

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John threatens someone with a loaded broccoli and tells us why not to look a gift horse in the mouth. Meanwhile, Jonnie learns about redundant colons and gives his review of the newly re-styled Cracker Barrel.

Plus, a conversation about success and happiness and why they are not usually the same thing.

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John gets a ’67 Mustang and some pointy sideburns, and wonders if relatives can see us from heaven.

Meanwhile, Jonnie wonders how long he could stand on one foot and ponders why having your accomplishments forgotten is actually a huge relief.

Plus, a conversation about living by a standard vs. being ruled by our feelings or the actions of others.

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John preaches the day before the eclipse and DOES NOT reference it in his sermon. Meanwhile, Jonnie tells the story of a presidential candidate who lost an entire state because of the way he ate a tamale.

Plus, a conversation about the American obsession with End Times prophecies and our human need to know things that cannot be fully understood.

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John reads some listener emails and gets his writing into The Bible (but not like a heretic, we promise). Meanwhile, Jonnie is starting to fear Artificial Intelligence and tells the story of the craziest coincidence ever.

Plus, a conversation about how tolerance and compromise is actually rooted in early Christianity.

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John tells us what NOT to say in a fight with your wife and that we basically drink orange juice for breakfast because of a government contract during World War II. Meanwhile, Jonnie has a dumb idea for church drum cages and has a conflicted relationship with his team’s colors.

Plus, a conversation about people doing good while working in a flawed system and why changing your mind can lead to changing your life.

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John heads to Las Vegas to help his daughter jump higher and gets scolded while gambling exactly one dollar. Meanwhile, Jonnie gets his computer stolen at a pastor’s conference and tells us about the time a woman got quarantined for life because she wouldn’t stop cooking.

Plus, a conversation about faith as a lens by which we see the world.

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John makes an awkward joke on primary Election Day and has a magical (and questionable) encounter with a bald eagle. Meanwhile, Jonnie plans a weekend of comedy shows in the path of the coming eclipse, which may lead to him sleeping in his car.

Plus, a conversation about compatibility in marriage and why it’s not necessarily the most important thing.

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John wonders what happened to the roadside Rocket in Huntsville, AL and tells us which states are the most stressed out. Meanwhile, Jonnie releases an old comedy clip and somehow finds the angriest people in Iowa.

Plus, a conversation about regaining a sense of wonder and what it really means to have “faith like a child.”

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John gets a go-kart and embarrasses his daughter with a “cool” handshake routine. Meanwhile, Jonnie jumps over the neighborhood kids with his bike and tells the story of a basketball player who saved a dolphin’s life in the weirdest way possible.

Plus, a conversation about the importance of taking risks and why a careful life is more empty than one full of mistakes.

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John gets the flu and makes Jonnie sing the highest harmony notes ever at his wedding. Meanwhile, Jonnie ambushes John’s former teenage celebrity crush for a cruise ship selfie, and tells the story of Abe Lincoln becoming buddies with a guy who wanted to kill him.

Plus, a conversation about how to disagree with someone without dehumanizing them.

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A special encore of Talk About That's 2023 Valentines Day minisode.

The boys take a deep dive into the important topics like high school crushes, the best Valentine’s candy, and how long is too long in a hot tub.

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John gets jealous at a Boyz II Men Concert and teaches us about Neuroplasticity. Meanwhile, Jonnie gives his band’s demo CD to Tobymac in hopes of a record deal, and ponders what it would be like to officiate the wedding of Kevin Bacon.

Plus, a conversation about the power of positivity and giving our spouse the benefit of the doubt, and the danger of dehumanizing our enemies.

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John offers a chimpanzee a promotion at NASA, and travels back in time to Meet Alexander Hamilton, and neither goes well. Meanwhile, Jonnie reveals the one thing you don’t do on a tour bus and ponders the time that Russia skipped the first two weeks of February.

Plus, a conversation about performing under intense pressure, and the most important quality a public speaker can have.

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John puts all his memories in the cloud and begs Jonnie not to tell him the score of the game. Meanwhile, Jonnie performs in front of 16,000 people and hurts himself playing ice hockey.

Plus, a conversation about toxic hustle culture, and finding the delicate balance between self-improvement and contentment.

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John worries about Jonnie driving in the snow, and considers getting his PhD. Meanwhile, Jonnie talks to his Uber driver and immediately regrets it, and ponders drinking from a boot.

Plus, a conversation about the Illuminati and other conspiracies, our collective need for gossip and secrets, and what it says about our culture.

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John has a power trip as a camp counselor, but gets humbled by the Lord of the Landfill. Meanwhile, Jonnie licks windowsills and ponders his questionable clothing choices in the 90’s.

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John plans to live to be 100 and drives on the emergency shoulder on Christmas. Meanwhile, Jonnie takes issue with the ending of Back to the Future and says something to a traffic cop that gets him pulled out of the car.

Plus, a conversation about resolutions, vices, and remaining at peace with our neighbors.

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John tells us about the perils of recording an audiobook and unveils the latest theme music for his “Quote of the Week” segment. Meanwhile, Jonnie writes love poems for a girl he isn’t even interested in and tells us about the time bathtubs got banned.

Plus, a conversation about the problems with modern content creation and how legacy artists like the Beatles would’ve handled it.

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John can’t stop replacing dead fish for his daughter and tells us the three words every parent dreads at Christmas. Meanwhile, Jonnie buys way too many coats and reveals his least favorite Christmas song.

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John reassures Jonnie about his use of text emojis and admits he can’t multitask. Meanwhile, Jonnie finds a car wash with the dumbest name ever and tells the story of the original Doorbuster Christmas toy: the Cabbage Patch Doll.

Plus, a conversation about how to be a better listener and learner.

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John comes up with a brand new drug, and tells us about General Custer. Meanwhile, Jonnie goes on tour with Nate Bargatze in his hometown of Knoxville, triggering anxiety about bombing in front of old friends and family.

Plus, a conversation about enlightenment and the balance between living our lives and sharing our lives.

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John kisses dating goodbye, and tells us the one thing NOT to say in an argument. Meanwhile, Jonnie celebrates the inventor of the shopping cart, and the honorable Judge Wapner.

Plus, a conversation about toxic hindsight and why it’s easier to be a critic than a creator.

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John discovers the subtle difference between prison inmates and referees, and unveils a new jingle candidate for his Quote of the Week segment. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders whether ancient philosophers would’ve been discouraged if they had put their ideas on Facebook and tells the story of Oprah Winfrey and a wheelbarrow full of fat.

Plus, a conversation about what liberty really looks like vs. what we think it is.

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John has a meeting with his inner committee and kills bugs for fun at dinner parties.

Meanwhile, Jonnie doesn’t like moving around onstage and tells us the unfortunate words uttered by the recipient of the first X-Ray.

Plus, a conversation about angst, assertiveness, and whether some anxiety is actually a privilege.

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John meets an archaeologist and steals gasoline. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders Halloween candy bowl etiquette and gives the telltale signs of a bad hotel room.

Plus, a conversation about creativity and how to know when it’s time to stop editing your work.

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John reminisces about Hypercolor t-shirts in the 90s and keeps an inferior product because it’s too expensive to return it. Meanwhile, Jonnie wants to bring back neckerchiefs, gives a $20 tip to a comedian for a perfect joke about Dawson’s Creek, and tells the story about the time France launched a cat into space.

Plus, a conversation about how to handle failure.

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John picks up a hitchhiker and has a missed connection at a Michael Bolton concert. Meanwhile, Jonnie doesn’t like his resting face and can’t find the southeast entrance of any building.

Plus, a conversation about taking constructive criticism and being able to appreciate another artist’s work without feeling threatened.

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John ponders writing a cookbook and tells us what NOT to do if you are officiating a wedding. Meanwhile, Jonnie tells a risky joke at a megachurch and has a microphone literally taped to his face.

Plus, a conversation about Holy Communion and why it’s important to our faith.

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John shouts at the clouds about the return of a certain hairstyle and tries to come up with photoshoot poses that aren’t awkward. Meanwhile, Jonnie accidentally steals someone else’s luggage on a road trip and tells the story of the world’s foremost school for department store Santas.

Plus, a conversation about honor culture and the fine line between healthy and toxic when it comes to memorializing flawed people.

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John stays way too long at the butter pump and yearns for a simpler time when our superheroes could be a bit pudgier. Meanwhile, Jonnie shares some of his pet peeves while traveling and tells the epic story of the man who played a chess match to save his own life.

Plus, a conversation about how getting older can make us more contemplative when it comes to things like traffic.

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John creates a death metal boy band and ponders what would be on our podcasts official Bingo Card. Meanwhile, Jonnie has difficulty rolling his Rs and takes a moment to honor the 80s TV star who went skiing and gave us all a brand new catch phrase.

Plus, a conversation about being centered and why doing the right thing is important, even if the results aren’t always perfect.

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John is self conscious of his squeaky shoes, and writes a song about dying frogs. Meanwhile, Jonnie auditions for the celebrity judges on America’s Got Talent and gets nauseous at Dollywood.

Plus, a conversation about our need for control and the importance of trusting God in uncertain times.

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John tries living in the moment and thinks Jonnie is exactly 10% too negative. Meanwhile, Jonnie shares a hypothesis about why conspiracy theories exploded the past few years and tells the tale of the WWII pilot who had no legs, and used it as an advantage. 

Plus, a conversation about the dangers of isolation and why we need each other now more than ever. 

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John tries to be the “cool teacher” and thinks Jonnie takes too much Tylenol. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders the old Super Glue commercial with the construction worker and “tells tales out of school,” whatever that means. 

Plus, a conversation about the Beatitudes and what it really means to be a person of meekness. 

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John meets a pizza delivering robot and wears house shoes to climb Everest. Meanwhile, Jonnie keeps his shoes on way too long and tells the story of the time Picasso was accused of stealing the Mona Lisa. 

Plus, a conversation about why fulfillment is so elusive and why it’s easier to be creative while at play than under pressure. 

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John makes an apology video from the high seas and somehow makes it worse. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders the origin of reality prank shows and tells the story of how two beloved Hollywood stars were almost taken out by makeup.

Plus, a conversation about fame, talent, and why humans weren’t meant to be worshipped. 

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John tries to come up with a new name for “potluck dinners” and has an idea to revolutionize frozen yogurt shops. Meanwhile, Jonnie has questions about an Olympic sledding event and tells the story of Clara Peller, the actress from Wendy’s “Where’s The Beef” commercials in the 1980’s.

Plus, a conversation about what it means to have faith like a child and why it’s important to make the Church a safe place to ask questions. 

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John puts on his baggiest rayon pants and tells the story of a rogue gang of cursing parrots. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders the phrase “goody two shoes” and feels a special calling to the luxury resort community. 

Plus, a conversation about enlightenment and how our continuing knowledge of the universe should deepen our faith, but sometimes has the opposite effect. 

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John digitally tracks his family and gets invited to speak at an Episcopal church... (for about 11 minutes). Meanwhile, Jonnie thinks professional wrestlers and standup comedians have a lot in common and reveals the coldest day in history.

Plus, the boys talk about meeting each other 28 years ago, how early is too early to hug, and the incredibly dumb joke Jonnie told John that started it all. 

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John dissects what made the show Friends so good and Indiana Jones 4 so bad. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders the history of monkeys in the movies and tells the story of a power outage that resulted in over four thousand arrests. 

Plus, a conversation about difficulty in relationships and using therapy as a mirror, rather than a weapon. 

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John gets into a fight with his brother and chases down some teenage boys like a modern day vigilante. Meanwhile, Jonnie visits a sarcastically named walk-in clinic and reveals the perfect defense against getting mugged.

Plus, a conversation about what it really means to be “blessed.”

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John strikes up a conversation with a total stranger and thinks an octopus and a squid are the same thing. Meanwhile, Jonnie is conflicted about buying toilet paper in bulk and defends himself to John on his lack of Disney expertise. 

Plus, a conversation about what time does to our legacies and whether we have constructed our own “Truman Show” to insulate ourselves from the real world. 

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John falls for a prank while driving a bus and proposes a senior league NFL. Meanwhile, Jonnie comes in to work on his birthday and hurts himself by waking up in a dead sprint. 

Plus, a conversation about internal messaging and the pressure on parents to be their children’s hero. 

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John goes to college for free and ponders whether he’d want to know about an alien invasion. Meanwhile, Jonnie thinks fax machines might be witchcraft and tells the story of triplets who were born weeks apart from one another. 

Plus, a conversation about finding God amid the obstacles of modern life. 

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John compares himself to Larry Bird and tries to correct his horrible posture. Meanwhile, Jonnie wishes he was more optimistic and tells the incredible tale of the shortest player in MLB history. 

Plus, a conversation about disappointment and what it really means to be “tested by God.”

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John has a leaky ceiling and is running late, even while asleep. Meanwhile, Jonnie wonders why no one is ever on their phones in their dreams, and tells the story of the group in the 1600’s who thought the world was ending.

Plus, a conversation about overcorrections, balance, and the need for dissenting viewpoints.

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John watches trash TV and files an unlikely insurance claim. Meanwhile, Jonnie tells us the one thing is wife could do that he couldn’t forgive and reveals the ironic fate of the man who built the Brooklyn Bridge. 

Plus, a conversation about extreme individualism and whether or not it is compatible with the Christian faith. 

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John taps into his counterphobia on theme park rides and reveals who is responsible for killing bugs in his house. Meanwhile, Jonnie adds a waterslide clause to his living will and learns way too much about toilet paper. 

Plus, a conversation about problematic themes in the Bible, redemptive movements, and cultural biases in our interpretation of Scripture.

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Today on Talk About That, the boys are joined in studio by comedian Brian Bates, co-host of the hugely successful “Nateland” podcast, to talk about emotional support animals on planes and what it was like to perform live in front of 20,000 people in Nashville. Meanwhile, Jonnie and Brian argue about the details of a golf cart accident that left one of them with a fractured appendage. 

Plus, John prepares his Mother’s Day Sermon and recommends we all climb on old garbage in St. Louis. 

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John has a late night thanks to T-swift and some T-storms, and reveals how long he needs to know someone before going in for a hug. Meanwhile, Jonnie explains why there’s a phone booth on top of the courthouse in Lincoln, Illinois and spends a LOT of money on his dog’s knees. 

Plus, a conversation about cynicism and hopefulness, and why it’s always more courageous to believe the best about people. 

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Today on Talk About That, Jonnie shoots commercials in a freak April snowstorm and thinks you’re a bad person if you do a certain thing on an airplane. Meanwhile, John does a job for over a decade that didn’t exist just a few generations earlier and ponders whether he over-apologizes. 

Plus, "This Week in History" and a birthday greeting to one of the all-time great comedians. 

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Today on Talk About That, John’s goes medieval on some rodent intruders and buys votes in his 8th grade election. Meanwhile, Jonnie reveals what 70s movie made him distrust green smoothies, and tells the true story of how someone was once accused of witchcraft because they played shuffleboard. 

Plus, a conversation about human nature and how our view of God as a friend and loving Father should inform our prayer life. 

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Today on Talk About That, John deals with a shady music producer and fights for his right to haggle over the price of a car. Meanwhile, Jonnie gets robbed and tells the story of the time America launched a vomiting Senator into space.

Plus, a conversation on the decline of civility in politics and the dangers of tribalism. 

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Today on Talk About That, John shares what it’s like as a Pastor to prepare for an Easter crowd and talks about the biblical danger of sleeping in windows during a sermon. 

Meanwhile, Jonnie orders extra crunchies at Long John Silvers, and the boys discuss what possessions they’d need if they were leaving for a long, long journey.

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Today on Talk About That, John gets a country song stuck in his head and is terrified of losing his job to a robot. Meanwhile, Jonnie accidentally disses Disney and tells the true story of the Old West outlaw who was made into shoes. 

Plus, a conversation about our fruitless search for perfection and our need for authenticity. 

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Today on Talk About That, John avoids scary movies, and invests in some good knee braces. 

Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders the most laid back of the martial arts, and tells the true story of the time a woman brought her OWN tank to fight in a war. 

Plus, a conversation about negative engagement online, and whether the algorithm is creating or merely reflecting our current culture.

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Today on Talk About That, John stalks Christian celebrities to give them our band’s demo CD and ponders if a ghostwriter ✍️ ever gets so busy that they hire their own ghostwriter. Meanwhile, Jonnie loses his shirt 👕 in Kansas and tells the tale of the time the US Army killed 6,000 sheep.

Plus, a conversation about celebrity worship—and what it says about us.

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Today on Talk About That, John deconstructs cable television, and wonders who mailed his mother a SpongeBob tumbler. Meanwhile, Jonnie gets indignant at the dentist, and tells John the story of the time NASA launched pictures of naked people into space 🚀 . 

Plus, a conversation about learning from history, and finding a balance between being honest about our shared past while maintaining a grace mindset.

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Today on Talk About That, Jonnie deals with a fire alarm during his comedy set, and gives a sound scolding to a would-be burglar. Meanwhile, John gets sucked in by the magic of Disney 🐭, and will never recover financially.

Then, our dear friend Carlo Serrano joins us in studio and tells the story of how he went from GED to PhD, and why being a learner is the best way to be a leader. 

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Today on Talk About That, John gets mistaken for a convict, and plagiarizes the Serenity Prayer.

Meanwhile, Jonnie eats a gigantic potato 🥔, and loves tattoo culture, but doesn’t want a tattoo.

Plus, a conversation about the dangers of “assembly line” spirituality ⚙️, and how to trust God even when we don’t get the outcome we hoped for.

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Today on Talk About That, Jonnie has way too many pairs of glasses 🤓, and a car just for his dogs 🐕. Meanwhile, John ponders if there is a right way to leave a text thread. 

Then, singer/songwriter Caleb Christopher Edwards joins us for a candid interview about his creative and spiritual journey since being diagnosed with autism. 

Plus, a conversation about the dangers of certainty and the thrill of hunting muskrats. 

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Today on Talk About That, John hears ringing and doesn’t understand praying mantises. Meanwhile, Jonnie performs during a snowstorm ❄️ and ponders launching his own awards ceremony.

Plus, a conversation about handling rejection and dealing with elements of your life over which you have no control. 

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Today on a very special Talk About That Mini-sode, the boys take a deep dive into the important topics like high school crushes, the best Valentine’s candy, and how long is too long in a hot tub.

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Today on Talk About That, John learns to speak Viking, and wonders if he has anything in his house worth stealing. Meanwhile, Jonnie opens a mystery package and does comedy at a women’s prison. 

Plus, a conversation about leadership, servanthood, and being on the same page with your spouse when it comes to finances.

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Today of Talk About That, John ponders revenge songs, and defaces public property. 

Meanwhile, Jonnie thinks movies have gotten way too long ⏰ and gets booked to perform comedy during a solar eclipse ☀️ 🌚. 

Plus, a conversation about what technology is doing to our brains and why boredom feeds creativity.

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Today on Talk About That, the boys talk about the dreaded January weight loss & fitness goals we all set every year. Jonnie remembers being everyone’s fun fat friend and ponders how beauty standards and unrealistic expectations of culture are making everyone sad. John looks at old photos and tries not to rewrite his own history. Plus, a conversation on Gatorade commercials, Jason Momoa, and putting our confidence in the right things.

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Today on Talk About That, John buys some strange accessories for his dog and eats bugs to impress his Dad. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders Cryogenic freezing 🧊 and vigorously defends the Ernest movies. 

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On Today’s special Talk About Thatmidweek mini-episode, the boys chat about emotional health, screen time, and how to break up with your therapist.

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Today on Talk About That, John charms the lunch lady and makes a case for flying cars 🚗 ✈️.  Meanwhile, Jonnie irritates his teachers and puts a tiny camera in his ear 👂. 

Plus, a conversation about affirmation, kindness, and high school yearbooks. 

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On Today’s special Talk About That midweek mini-episode, the boys discuss the long history of New Years resolutions, erased debts, and the danger of your friend’s “popcorn bowl."

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Today on Talk About That, John gets a phone call from a football legend 🍊, and considers taking a year off from New Years resolutions. Meanwhile, Jonnie stifles his crisis and tells the story of the time he and John both catastrophically forgot someone’s name 🤦‍♂️.

Plus, highlights from This Week in History! 

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Today on Talk About That, John explores his days as a Youth Pastor and reacts to his Christmas gift 🎁 by shooting the bird. Meanwhile, Jonnie tries out a new joke and ponders why certain people like pranks and others don’t. 

Plus, a conversation about what really makes for an effective sermon. 

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Today on Talk About That, John chases a bird around his house 🦅 🧹, wonders if donkeys are depressed, and loses at Trivial Pursuit in epic fashion. Meanwhile, Jonnie injures himself with a cinnamon roll, has a chance encounter with Willie Nelson 🤠, and pictures himself as a comedian after the apocalypse. 💣 

Plus, a conversation about the pressure to be extraordinary in today’s culture and what success actually looks like.

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Today on Talk About That, Jonnie suddenly craves grapefruit juice, and wonders how many worship leaders onstage is too many. Meanwhile, John tries to straighten his teeth 🦷, and finds out he’s way shorter than he thought. 

Plus, a conversation about liturgy, church traditions, and whether the Apostle Paul would’ve been the early church version of Simon Cowell.

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Today on Talk About That, John eats a comically big sandwich 🥪 and makes his own funeral playlist 🎶 💀. Meanwhile, we look back at our Christian rock band roots, and cringe at our first CD title 🤦‍♂️. 

Plus, a conversation about creativity, authenticity, and why procrastination isn’t always what we think it is. 

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Today on Talk About That, John wishes there were ninja chiropractors and has some problems with Star Wars terminology. Meanwhile, Jonnie finds out in the worst way possible that he dresses like a slouch, and yells at holograms of his dead parents.

Plus, a conversation about gratitude, contentment, and self-care.

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Today on Talk About That, John’s sports a faux hawk for 3 years too long, and writes a book about history’s most patriotic duvet. Meanwhile, Jonnie wants to smell like flowers and worries that his own hairline is showing signs of retreat. 

Also, a conversation about the power of inside jokes in relationships, and the importance of feeling seen and heard.

Plus, an exciting SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT about the future of the podcast. 

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Today on Talk About That, John thinks he’s a ninja 🥷, and fights accusations of being a Boomer 👴🏻. Meanwhile, Jonnie shares a theory about Prince, and ruins someone’s dessert with sarcasm.

Also, a conversation about disappointment, contentment, and “God’s Perfect Will."

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Today on Talk About That, John over-analyzes a text conversation, and tries to change his love language. Meanwhile, Jonnie pays people to get out of telling jokes at their event 💒, and ponders how Biblical characters got their nicknames.

Plus, a conversation about vulnerability, friendship, and hiring movers. 

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Today on Talk About That, John has a smelly dog 🐕 👃 AND a go-kart. Meanwhile, Jonnie fractures a toe and ponders the role of a professional “sweetener.”

Plus, a conversation about Biblical Interpretations and how we tend to view what we read through the lenses of our culture and biases. 

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Today on Talk About That, the boys finally break down the Volunteers’ big win over Alabama 🙌. Then, Jonnie brings back cigars and candy from Mexico with ominous warning labels. Meanwhile, we ponder Tennessee’s new license plate options, and wonders if it could lead to something nefarious.

Also, a conversation about negativity in the media, and whether we will ever escape this era of clickbait and doom scrolling.

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Today on Talk About That, Jonnie goes pants shopping in Mexico 🇲🇽, and ponders the real reason women like tall men 📸. Meanwhile, John refuses to moisturize 🔥, and eats key lime pie in bed 🛌. 

Plus, a conversation about secondhand embarrassment, shame, and babies in restaurants 👶. 

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Today on Talk About That, Jonnie goes pants shopping in Mexico 🇲🇽, and ponders the real reason women like tall men 📸. Meanwhile, John refuses to moisturize 🔥, and eats key lime pie in bed 🛌. 

Plus, a conversation about secondhand embarrassment, shame, and babies in restaurants 👶. 

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Today on Talk About That, John has trouble describing himself in an interview, and consults his Inner Committee. Meanwhile, the Vols 🏈 break the curse against Florida, and Jonnie accidentally writes the premise for a new sitcom. 

Plus, a conversation about vulnerability, community, and what comedians & cavemen have in common.

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Today on Talk About That, Jonnie plays understudy for a comedian friend who gets sick, and hopes to avoid some guy named Ian. Meanwhile, John gets the weirdest feedback ever after his latest sermon and moves his office to the great outdoors 🌲. 

Plus, a conversation about Advil PM and Empathy. 

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Today on Talk About That, John drives without a license 🪪 and has dreams of an NIL endorsement deal 💰.

Meanwhile, Jonnie tries intermittent fasting and ponders why some people need their food to hurt them🍗🔥. 

Plus, a conversation about Grace and Truth (in that order), and why it’s dangerous to make yourself the hero of your own story. 

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Today on Talk About That, we try to remember who shot J.R. on the 80’s TV show “Dallas”. Then, Jonnie has a strange encounter with two artists while out biking 🚴‍♀️ , and remembers a time when people were shamed for having brown eyes 👀.

Meanwhile, John is upset about the state of modern sweatpants (and his tiny legs 🐓), and gives a harrowing update about his recent health scare. 

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Today on Talk About That, John investigates his wife’s bear sighting, and can’t remember if he’s ever been in a hot air balloon. Meanwhile, Jonnie visit’s Topeka, but misses out on the museum dedicated to their most famous daredevil, and then gets pushback on last week’s comments about living in harsh weather states.

Plus, more facts from this Week in History! 

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Today on Talk About That, John breaks up the band and breaks Jonnie’s heart 💔, and also makes a  theological case for dogs in Heaven. Meanwhile, Jonnie’s Mom calls a parent-teacher meeting🤦‍♂️. 

Plus, the boys chat about Ronald Reagan, The Beatles, and an axe murderer 🪓 in a BRAND NEW Segment with facts from this week in history. 

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Today on Talk About That, John has an allergic reaction, forcing Jonnie to try and remember the words to their own band’s songs. Then, Jonnie performs at a Southern Gospel festival in Missouri, and can’t stop crying at a show in Canada 🇨🇦. 

Plus, a conversation about America’s founders and servant leadership. 

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Today on Talk About That, John is fed up with fake injuries 😡, and tries to convince Jonnie to listen to the Hamilton soundtrack before seeing the play. Meanwhile, Jonnie takes a risk with his opening joke at a show, and takes issue with a popular Christmas song. 

Plus, John shares some insights he learned about Black history at Colonial Williamsburg. 

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Today on Talk About That, John’s tries to impress the eye doctor, and offers to coach Jonnie on frisbee technique. Meanwhile, Jonnie has two wolves inside of him 🐺, and is probably feeding them both Taco Bell 🌮. Also, a conversation about feeling “ghosted”, and our human need for affirmation.

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Today on Talk About That, Jonnie doesn’t read the fine print on a monthly service 💰😡 and ponders music artists who look nothing like their names. Meanwhile, John saves a bunny and wonders if his dog is really a “good boy.”

Plus, a conversation about repurposed sermon illustrations and repurposed jokes.

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Today on Talk About That, Jonnie argues against dark chocolate 🍫 and “important” speeches at rock concerts 🙄.

Meanwhile, John explains what makes an Apostle, and the boys chat about their Pentecostal upbringing. 

Plus, a conversation about creativity, fame, and the tendency to make ourselves the hero of our own stories. 

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Today on Talk About That, John gets hauled into a parent-teacher meeting over saggy pants👖.

Meanwhile, Jonnie picks the absolute wrong person to sing to at a show, and starts a hip hop group in Bolivia. 

Also, a conversation about altered memories, and the tendency to make ourselves the hero of our own stories 🦸‍♂️.

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Today on Talk About That, Jonnie learns he is not in fact a superhero 🦸‍♂️, and finally joins the Covid Club. Meanwhile, John is disappointed when people on his favorite shows don’t actually like each other in real life 🥊. 

Plus, a conversation about humility, confidence, and whether or not we can really learn from other people’s mistakes. 

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Today on Talk About That, John takes on a phone scammer, and sees his books go flying off the shelves (and off trucks). Meanwhile, Jonnie quits the piano 🎹, and drops John off in 1991 to do ministry without technology.

Plus, a conversation about guns in America, politics, and other non-controversial topics.

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Today on Talk About That, Jonnie tells lies about plants for money, and gets terrified of loose groceries 🍌. Meanwhile, John has theories about the Titanic and stands up to a bully 🤛.

Plus, a conversation about recovery and self-examination. 

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Today on Talk About That, John and Jonnie tackle the important subjects like: who would win in a fight between us, which one of us would make a better President, and whether frozen yogurt is as good as ice cream. Then Jonnie reluctantly gets a tetanus shot and John unveils a plan to SPAM his family from beyond the grave.

Plus a conversation about being at peace when times get tough.

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Today on Talk About That, Jonnie goes bargain hunting for fashionable eyewear, and writes celebrity  announcements for Nashville Airport ✈️. Meanwhile, John gives a history lesson about restaurants 👨‍🍳, and cuts line at the airport. 

Plus, a conversation about changing directions in life. 

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Today on Talk About That, we welcome our dear friend and host of the Kennedy Dynasty podcast, Alyson Holland.

We discuss the important issues, like bringing back landlines, know-it-alls, and the proper pronunciation of niche. (Or is it niche?) 

Plus a conversation about the dangers of revisionist history, and the emergence of commentary as “News.”

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Today on Talk About That, Jonnie invents a new television 📺 👓, sweats profusely, and shares his best travel tips. Meanwhile, John wants to live to be 119, hates needles 💉, and forgets the words to a song he wrote.

Plus, a conversation about Impostor Syndrome. 

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Today on Talk About That, John discovers Deep Fake video technology, and refuses to sleep in 🛌 . Meanwhile, Jonnie issues a correction from an old episode and still has night terrors, but can’t get out of them thanks to modern medicine 💊. 

Also, a conversation about Humility, Know-It-Alls, and Strawman Arguments. 

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Today on Talk About That, Jonnie ponders the invention of hushpuppies, and joins an exclusive club 👴🏻. Then John has a Crisis of Limitation and we chat about what really makes a bad driver. 

Plus, a conversation on suffering and hope. 

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Today on Talk About That, Jonnie tries to make Amish people laugh and deals with the youngest heckler ever. Meanwhile, John deals with mistaken identity, and has a sermon illustration fall flat ⛽️. 

Plus, a conversation on Christian camps, the Sabbath, and why we aren’t built for perpetual excitement. 

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Today on Talk About That, John wonders how successful he’d be if he had all his hair and Jonnie finds out about another troubling gas shortage.

Then the boys discuss the Slap Heard ‘Round the World, and the inevitable cultural overreaction. Plus a conversation on Biblical Parables.

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Today on Talk About That, John ponders a new career in hip-hop, and gets stuck on a boat when his Instagram post goes rogue. Meanwhile Jonnie explains why he’s a control freak about booking travel, but a negligent stepdad when it comes to meal planning 🍔. 

Plus, a conversation on Revelation, and our need for certainty and aversion to mystery.

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Today on Talk About That, John has a run-in with a sea lion, and searches for a less political pillow company. Meanwhile, Jonnie is a proud member of the Clean Plate Club 🥇, and is relieved when John cuts his sermon short 😅.

Also, a conversation on “Post-Christianity” and whether self-actualization is really its own religion in many ways.

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Today on Talk About That, we celebrate our 200th show by welcoming in special guests Dave Barnes & Jon McLaughlin from the Dadville Podcast!

Together we spent an hour talking about old songs, creativity, legacy, and weedeating as an art form.

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Today on Talk About That, Jonnie gets sick on the road, and gets TikTok famous anonymously. Meanwhile, John has a shiny head, and stalks the Facebook profile of a negative commenter. 

Plus, a conversation on bias and reliability in the media. 

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Today on Talk About That, we launch our inaugural VIDEO episode, which makes us even more self conscious.

John gets ready to go on a cruise, and talks about the most embarrassing thing happening in Mt. Juliet, TN🤦‍♂️. Meanwhile, Jonnie rants about crypto and NFTs like an old man shouting at the clouds, and tries to ease his own mind about the coming robot takeover 🤖. 

Also, a conversation about Forecasting, and how our expectations and systems can make us feel safe or threatened. 

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Today on Talk About That, Jonnie needs closed captions at the movies, and gets a zero for the day. 

Meanwhile, John lets his daughter watch Tommy Boy, and makes a bad butterfly metaphor 🦋. 

Plus, a conversation about writing first drafts, and being kind to yourself while creating something.

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Today on Talk About That, Jonnie invents some weird new products for his merch table, and laments the slow death of DVD and CD sales (just in time for the strange resurrection of cassettes). Meanwhile John goes down a rabbit hole of 90’s Christian Rock, and the boys remember awful camp games from their days as youth leaders.

Plus, a conversation about confrontational Christianity, and whether we are really called to be constantly “turning over tables” of other people.

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Today on Talk About That, Jonnie invents some weird new products for his merch table, and laments the slow death of DVD and CD sales (just in time for the strange resurrection of cassettes). Meanwhile John goes down a rabbit hole of 90’s Christian Rock, and the boys remember awful camp games from their days as youth leaders.

Plus, a conversation about confrontational Christianity, and whether we are really called to be constantly “turning over tables” of other people.

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Today on Talk About That, John finds buried treasure and gets Covid 🦠. Meanwhile, Jonnie has some regrettable hot takes from old episodes, and desperately wants to be a ninja. 

Also, a conversation about unlearning wrong ideas and the pitfalls of ideological certainty. 

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This week on Talk About, John gets hacked by a nefarious New Zealander, and ponders a future in politics. Meanwhile, Jonnie puts his mattress on the floor like a college dorm room and avoids watching He-Man like a good Christian.

Also, a conversation about the balance between being confident and staying humble.

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This week on Talk About, John gets hacked by a nefarious New Zealander, and ponders a future in politics. Meanwhile, Jonnie puts his mattress on the floor like a college dorm room and avoids watching He-Man like a good Christian.

Also, a conversation about the balance between being confident and staying humble.

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Today on Talk About That, Jonnie gives tips on staying in cheap hotels, & makes a tough choice in a movie theatre. Meanwhile, John ponders Old Testament Law & The 5th Amendment, and also shaves his face with body wash 🪒.

Also, a conversation on accountability in politics, and why throwing someone's words back at them no longer works anymore. 

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Today on Talk About That, it’s a Snowpocalypse! John hurts himself sledding, and has no butt 🍑. Meanwhile Jonnie tries adopting a “lunchroom” philosophy to creativity, rather than always trying to win over critics.

Also, a conversation about the illusion of safety, and how taking no risks is the biggest risk of all.

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Today on Talk About That,  John gives a history lesson about the President who locked up his critics 🔒, and gets some new pen pals for his Birthday ✍️. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders freedom of speech and hyper-sensitivity in comedy and elsewhere. 

Also, a conversation about negativity and whether people can become more positive or are just wired one way or the other. 

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Today on Talk About That, John is hopelessly behind on his Marvel Movies 🎥 🦸‍♂️ & shares how a strong wind caused his mental meltdown🌪. Meanwhile, Jonnie has strong feelings about unnecessary apostrophes, and gets a dog at Walgreens 🐶.

Also, a conversation on making amends.

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Today on Talk About That, Jonnie gives his dog table food and wonders if he’s too old for TikTok. Meanwhile, John claims he never cheated in school, but learns he has something in common with a serial killer 🔪.

Also, the boys read a list of ten Cognitive Distortions, and ponder why they suffer from all of them 🤯. 

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Today on Talk About That, John laments his December birthday 🎁, and explores the history of his family name. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders the art of interruption, and whether people still use a Rolodex 📝.

Plus, a conversation on the pressure to identify ourselves by our job.

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Today on Talk About That, Jonnie develops an unhealthy envy of someone’s fridge, and ponders worship lyric technology in the future 🤖. Meanwhile John reaches his breaking point while doing a home repair project 🤬.

Plus, a discussion on how getting older gives us a more generous and empathetic perspective on our parents.

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Today on Talk About That, Jonnie scolds John for running on empty, and attempts to impress a girl with popcorn 🍿. Meanwhile John calls Jonnie a Grinch and proposes a permanent Holiday Tree.

Also, a conversation on hustle, burnout, and the balance between chasing opportunities or letting them come to you.

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Today on Talk About That, John abandons Jonnie at a 5k race 🏃🏼‍♂️, and Jonnie holds a 20 year grudge about it. Meanwhile, we ponder the moral panic surrounding drug culture💊in the 80’s & 90’s, and the resulting fallout.

Plus, a conversation on pain and purpose, and why some conflict is actually good.

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Today on Talk About That, John uses a fifty-cent word, and ponders tasing himself into better posture. Meanwhile, Jonnie hurts himself playing kickball with other adults, and has a run-in with the Bills Mafia at his comedy show.

Plus, a conversation about new parents, sensitivity, and small talk.

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Today on Talk About That, Jonnie sells plants while not knowing anything about them, and get caught cheating on the Titans with another team. Meanwhile, John talks about being an easy target for teasing, and has his mind blown by the oldest joke in the world.

Also, we read listeners' emails, including a question about church trauma, and knowing when it’s time to move on to another church.

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Today on Talk About That, John absorbs all the responsibility in the room, and ponders life as an oil baron. Meanwhile, Jonnie has car trouble, and prepares to do standup on a show with a WWE Hall of Famer.

Also, a conversation about sheep, honesty, and manipulation.

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Today on Talk About That, Jonnie inures himself, and ponders when and why abs became so culturally important 🏋️. Meanwhile, John makes a fashion statement on national TV, and takes the Big Apple by storm.

Also, the boys talk about being huge crybabies, and why sensitivity is actually a good thing.

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Today on Talk About That, Jonnie goes to the Grand Ole Opry 🎸and hears a perfect joke, while John quotes himself in a sermon, and holds a wet orange 🍊 for good luck. 

Plus, a conversation about humility, empathy, and Jenga. 

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Today on Talk About That, John exercises his 3rd Amendment rights and ponders mixed drinks from the Bible. Meanwhile, Jonnie makes for a terrible (and chubby) chocolate salesman, and goes to a pep rally at his job.

Also, a conversation about fashion anxiety among middle aged men. 

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This week, the podcast welcomes Laura Driver who revisits clips from a past episode’s volleyed foibles between John and Jonnie. In rebutting their merits and mistakes, Laura and John also work out a few of their twenty-one year-old marriage issues on the air. 

DISCLAIMER: No marriages were injured in the making of this episode. 

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Today on Talk About That, John tries to explain why his Christmas tree is already up, and Jonnie gets taller, but still can’t dunk a basketball 🏀. Then we discuss our eavesdropping devices, and online shopping compulsion 💴. 

Plus, a conversation about American exceptionalism, and why our built in biases give us a sense of comfort. 

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Today on Talk About That, John gets a medal 🏅 in the mail, and immediately turns it into a sermon illustration. Meanwhile, Jonnie loses his precious fitness watch in a 95-foot hole 🕳, gets a massage, and has an unfortunate mishap in the jacuzzi. 

Plus, a conversation about fear of over-sharing and social media etiquette while on vacation. 

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Today on Talk About That, John argues with his wife about breakfast, and mails someone a book, only to have it returned a year later. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders why certain movies just appeal more to men, and then later sobs like a baby at an internet video 😭.

Also, a conversation about narcissistic leadership and self-awareness.

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Today on Talk About That, John has a real life “This Is Us” moment while looking at old videos of himself leaving for college 😭. Meanwhile, Jonnie is terrified of living a real life "Hotel California” while on vacation, and can’t believe his niece is in a chair in the sky.

Also, a conversation about nostalgia, and why we can’t have true perspective until some time has passed.

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John takes us inside the competitive world of Teen Bible Quiz 📖, and shares one of the worst parts about his time as a youth pastor. Meanwhile, Jonnie threatens to record the podcast shirtless, and ponders the strange phenomenon of mascot genders for school sports teams.    Also, a conversation about hope.   Today’s episode in NOT sponsored by Black Licorice®️: “For people who love candy, but hate themselves.”

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Today on Talk About That, Jonnie climbs the corporate ladder to an easier but still minimum wage job, while John reads his own writing into an expensive microphone, and forgets how to pronounce things.

Also, a conversation on the subtle difference between coaching and manipulation.

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On today’s show, John almost loses his scholarship, gets fired at a greasy spoon, and somehow gets mono TWICE. Jonnie loses his driving privileges, and comes dangerously close to fighting a drunk guy while wearing a muscle shirt. 

Plus, a conversation on living in the moment. 

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The boys have apprehensions about a trip to Europe, and John tells a story about the dangers of Greek translation in sermons. Then, Jonnie asks John for a ruling on whether he was out of line after trolling one of his neighbors on Facebook.

Also, a conversation about partisanship in the Media, and how we are all being pitted against one another.

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Jonnie has a conflicted relationship with Nature 🦅, and wants a harpoon gun. Meanwhile, John trades in his cheap sunglasses for the real thing, and suggests a (questionable) cooking challenge for a future show 👨‍🍳.

Also, a conversation about conviction, and the pursuit of knowledge 📚.

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Jonnie prepares for a trip to Cancun 🏖 , and throws the book 📕 at an unwelcome visitor. Meanwhile, John has tenuous confidence in his vitamin supplements, and tries a drastic solution for his snoring.

Plus, a conversation about dad bods, Timehop photos, empathy and insecurity.

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The boys share Vegas stories 🎰, and John hurts himself in the dumbest way possible. Jonnie explains why the Gospel is like Shake & Bake, and John has a tragic first date.

Also, a conversation on body positivity and self-worth.

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Jonnie “cleans up” a chemical spill, and destroys a National Park on vacation 🤿. Meanwhile, John sees something strange in a local yard, and then tells the craziest story you didn’t know about President Lincoln.

Also, a conversation about nationalism, statues, and exhumation!!

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Jonnie likes cities that have a sense of humor about themselves, and the boys discuss some things they didn’t learn in history class. Then Jonnie watches too many 90’s films and gets them confused with each other, while John needs to record an audiobook, and literally fakes it until he makes it.

Plus, a conversation about ambition, and the search for peace while also pursuing a dream.

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The boys talk about the power of nostalgia, and what weird names they call their dogs. Then, Jonnie talks onstage about being an awkward kid, and John tells a story, and it’s snot funny 😆.

Also, a conversation about the principle of the “bleeding neck”.

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John enrages a momma bird and shares some teenage regrets 🕺. Meanwhile, Jonnie inadvertently steals a joke, and can’t figure out why his car stinks 😷.

Plus, a conversation on risk aversion.

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Jonnie discovers a horrifying new tool against snoring 😴, while John invents a way to avoid missing movie moments 🎥.

Plus, a conversation on how different cultures deal with death, and why avoiding pain may not always be a good idea.

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Jonnie has a viral video, and makes the mistake of reading the comments. Then, John talks about the research for his forthcoming book on racism, and the boys delve into America’s troubled past.

Also, a conversation about fear as a “button” for motivating people, and why it always works.

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Jonnie has a dead yard, and tries to throw away concrete. Meanwhile, John goes to Florida, and the boys argue steak vs. burgers.

Then, a conversation about traumatic experiences, and John shares memories of his beloved Brutus.

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An episode recorded several weeks ago, John tries to get Jonnie to take a personality test, but Jonnie would rather assess himself.

Then, a discussion about eternity, and whether a prophet should be trusted after they get it wrong.

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Jonnie avoids the dentist 🦷 and doesn’t want to add years to his life. And John should’ve left his dirty pool liner alone. 🏊‍♂️

Plus, a conversation about the balance between fulfillment in our work vs. letting it define us completely.

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John destroys a bathroom, and brags about his CDL, while Jonnie defends his scooter and makes terrible sermon illustrations.

Also, the boys debate which Bible translation is the best.

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The boys are back from hiatus, and John has a horrifying virus 🦠 (not THAT one). Then, Jonnie wonders if his workout streak has become a problem.

Plus, a conversation about what the world would look like without Facebook and Twitter.

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John’s blind dog makes a run for it, and Jonnie reminisces on childhood fire safety tips.

Then, the boys discuss why “brokenness” makes for more interesting characters in TV and movies (and real life), and why Christians sometimes feel the need to hide their flaws.

Plus, a conversation on cancel culture, forgiveness and growth.

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The boys discuss the Vols’ chances in March Madness, and whether John could hit clutch free throws. Then, Jonnie shares details about his health journey, weight loss, and support system.

Also, a conversation about misogyny in evangelical churches, and why it’s so damaging.

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John and Jonnie know nothing about farming or hunting, and it shows. Then, the boys reminisce on incredibly dumb things they did behind the wheel 🚙  as teenagers, and Jonnie gets skeptical about the "Treasure of Oak Island” 💰.

Plus, a conversation on what we surmise to be the appeal of our own show (for better or worse).

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Jonnie has car problems and he somehow makes it worse, while John tries to be a Good Samaritan until he hears gunshots. Then the boys discuss their checkered driving past, and Jonnie encounters a loud child on a plane.

Plus, a conversation on the art of listening 👂 without always offering solutions or advice.

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John and Jonnie have their monthly COVID scare, and prepare to blame each other. Jonnie pays way too much for a pet’s surgeries, and the boys inadvertently create a Russian figure skater. Plus, a conversation on gender roles and chivalry.

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John writes way too many words, while Jonnie worries he isn’t animated enough onstage.

Then, the boys survive the Snowpocalypse, but have a harrowing tale to tell. Also, a conversation about confidence, insecurity, and vulnerability.

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Jonnie defends himself from the fallout of last weeks hotdog 🌭 episode and builds a snow fort ❄️. Then the boys discuss Artificial Intelligence, and its effects on comedy and censorship.

Plus, a conversation about opposition-based thinking, and the importance of holding our own tribes accountable.

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John and Jonnie break down some overused colloquialisms, and believe it will help you (when combined with diet and exercise). Jonnie contemplates petty crime when he is wronged by the local grocer, and John argues with his wife over sausage.

Also a conversation on justice and grace.

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John receives a sick burn from a neighbor while out for a jog, and Jonnie dreams of being President, if only to enact arbitrary legislation.

Then the boys discuss Old Testament stories, and whether they’d do  7 years of labor for their bride.

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John and Jonnie discuss the role of satirical content in social change, and lament those who use a “free speech” defense while committing acts of sedition.

Also, an important conversation about Christian Nationalism, the legacy of our President, and the church’s response.

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John has clogged ear canals, and Jonnie tells a story about a smelly kid from the news. Then the boys discuss their amazement at (older) technology that we take for granted.

Also a conversation about the President, his legacy, and our disappointment with recent events (some of which were happening live as we recorded).

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John cleans out his garage, while Jonnie makes an internet purchase and gets sucked into a vortex of Facebook "Dad Ads".

Then, the boys talk about their band days 🎸, and John’s propensity to talk between songs onstage.

Also, a conversation about condemnation and grace.

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The boys discuss their (least) favorite Christmas songs, and remember some branding advice they received from a record producer.

Then, a discussion about heretical song lyrics send the boys down a rabbit hole. Plus, a listener question about celebrities who are Christian.

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John and Jonnie talk about the pain of editing, and John has an idea to make a million dollars a year 💰.

Also, a conversation on contentment, joy vs. circumstantial happiness. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Etch a Sketch®️: “Around here, we draw stairs.”

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Jonnie is fascinated by a new scientific development 🧪, and ponders its effects.

Then, a discussion on why music artists generally need to look a certain way to be accepted. Also, a conversation on digital health, and the death of nuance.

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John loves church history, especially if it involves eating, while Jonnie notices a strange new tick caused by mask-wearing.

Then the boys fantasize about gaining weight for a movie role.

Also, a discussion on whether we should teach kids that they’re “special”, and learning the value of liturgy.

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John rescues Jonnie on the side of the road, ad ponders whether it makes them even in the long run. Jonnie can’t wait to be a corporate sellout. 

Then the boys talk about the election controversy and conspiracy theorists🙄 .

Also, John tackles a listener question about whether the Bible condones slavery. 

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Jonnie almost ruins someone’s ministry for failure to properly vet a movie clip 🤬, while John almost punches his wife in his sleep 🥊.

Then the boys discuss sleep drugs and whether the Body Mass Index is fake news.

Also, a conversation about liberty from a Biblical perspective. 

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The boys discuss the impact of social media on the election aftermath. Jonnie posts a shirtless photo because he can. Then, John defends the Electoral College, and brags about how much math he knows.

Plus, a conversation on tribalism and the dangers of cancel culture.

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Time for another trip down memory lane, back to November 2018, to be exact. Jonnie tells the dumb story of his dumb injury, John takes his family to Disney, but only for the sermon illustrations, and the boys discuss voting, immigration, and other hot-button topics that will cost them listeners. 

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The boys ponder what sweets old people prefer, and to their horror, realize they ARE old people. Jonnie’s wife will probably get away with murder, while John believes it takes a village to raise a child, and appoints Uncle Jonnie to his Parenting Trubunal.

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Jonnie wants the church to adopt Festivus rules. Then the boys discuss their favorite sodas, and whether CBD oil works.

Also, special guest Alyson Holland joins the conversation to talk about the Kennedy Curse and the cult of personality around ultra famous families. Check out her smash hit podcast, “Kennedy Dynasty”, on all platforms.

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Jonnie has some odd requirements for his hotel room, and almost ruins a middle school volleyball game.

John hates small talk, and eats ice cream in bed like a monster. Also, a conversation about crowns in heaven.

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Jonnie explains his intense phobia of hoodies, and John offers a solution. John’s wife sets her clocks back in different rooms, and Jonnie ruins someone’s business call.

Also, a conversation about growing up in the “Just Say No” generation.

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John becomes an inside restaurant guy and ponders his “platform", while Jonnie visits Nebraska and hatches an invention that will (probably not) change mask-wearing forever.

Also, a conversation about the line between stewardship of our gifts and the pride of being “self-made."

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Jonnie goes to the dentist and gets way too much nitrous oxide, while John counsels his daughter without a license.

Also, a conversation about an “Us vs. Them” mentality in church and culture at large.

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Jonnie gets furious in an airport, and ponders breaking into the NBA Bubble, while John comes up with the cheesiest Youth Group slogan in history.

Plus, a conversation about a recent “prophetic warning” video, and why Christians are fascinated by predictions about the future.

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Jonnie takes a trip to Middle Earth 16 years too late, and almost forgets a joke at a TV taping. John ruins Laura’s sleep and pulls a gun on dream burglars.

Also, a conversation about rest, and why it’s just as important as work.

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John talks about the fall of the Roman Empire, white grape juice, and admits he speaks more bluntly on the livestream. Jonnie shares the perfect time limit for a sermon, while lamenting his own short attention span.

Also, the boys make an argument that America is currently in a recovery program (whether we know it or not).

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John hates small talk, and desperately want to tell you about his rash, while Jonnie is worried that getting healthy will make him less funny.

Then, the boys discuss artists who use their platform to push politics, and why comedy with an agenda is almost always a bad idea.

Also, a conversation on vulnerability. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Lucky Charms 🍀™️: “We know you just buy it for the marshmallows, and we’re okay with that."

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John can’t stop working even on vacation, which Jonnie finds insufferable. Then they boys discuss what performer they’d risk getting COVID to see live in concert.

Also, a listener question about the End of Days.

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Jonnie plays a terrifying version of hide-and-seek 🧦, while John plays tag with fireworks 🧨. Then, the boys make biking sermon illustrations 🚲.

Also, a conversation about (gulp)…mask mandates 😷.

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Jonnie has his first comedy club shows in the Age of Corona 😷, John shares some of his recovery journey, and the boys talk about having to “unlearn” some toxic theology from their youth.

Also, a conversation about the glorification of anxiety in our culture.

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Due to a death in the family, the boys take a week off and go back in time for a Throwback episode. Jonnie witnesses something weird at the Apple store, John talks to his phone with a British accent, and the boys discuss the last two seasons of The Office.

Also a conversation on liturgy, and how being present is better than living from event to event.

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The boys talk about old cartoons, (over?)protective moms, and the imminent removal of villains and idiots from pop culture.

Plus, Listener Questions! Also, a conversation about online debate and the death of expertise.

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John hotwires his microwave, finds a dead mole in his pool, and corrects Jonnie’s horsey heresy. Then the boys discuss some historical characters in American cuisine.

Also, a conversation about the best and worst parts of the creative process.

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Jonnie ponders end times theology, and plans an awkward water break. Then the boys discuss the “Batman voice” and offer an alternative.

Also, a conversation on the importance of having friends with different life experiences.

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Jonnie launches a (terrible) lawn care company, and spoils an action movie for John.

Meanwhile, the boys blame a popular TV show for irreversible damage to American’s crotches, and question whether mosquitos and carnivores are products of the fall of humankind. Also, a conversation on heaven.

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The boys discuss their stance on contraband at the movies. John has a conflicted relationship with cold cuts, and Jonnie pitches a (terrible) children’s book.

Also, a discussion on deconstruction, jingoism, loyalty to systems, and how the patterns of our childhood follow us into adulthood. 

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The boys ponder whether they’d use a tiny tornado shelter, and John gives a stellar bus driver metaphor worthy of a youth sermon.

Then Jonnie responds to some listener questions, and gives some advice to young comedians. Also, a conversation on The Confederacy, “The Lost Cause”, and Cancel Culture.

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Jonnie gets back to work telling jokes in front of people 🎤, while John tries his best to keep his daughter from getting a Facebook account.

Then the boys welcome in their longtime friend - author and speaker Reggie Dabbs - to talk about his black experience in America, speaking out even when it’s uncomfortable, and how white folks can be allies for change in this important season.

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John realizes no one remembers any of his past messages, and Jonnie wonders if sermons need to rhyme to be good.

Also, a conversation about how the show, and our opinions, have evolved over 114 podcasts, and how we expect to be cancelled any minute now.

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Jonnie ponders if he would lose his creative drive if he were super rich, while John withers under cross-examination from a Southern lawyer. Then, the boys chat about their show being “Unrated”.

Also, a conversation about Michael Jordan, bad journalism, and being present.

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Jonnie invents a new handshake 🤝 for a new era, while John listens for whispers, and tries to hard sell Jonnie on the merits of a national parks documentary 😴.

Also, a conversation about hearing God’s voice.

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John and Jonnie are back in studio TOGETHER (sort of)! The boys talk about great Moms, Jonnie wonders if a baked potato🥔 is a meal, and John questions his own conspiracy theory acumen 🤓.

Then, a discussion on white privilege (from two white guys).

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Jonnie hates “Corona Commercials” and does a dramatic reading of what they actually sound like, while John rides the salty-sweet food roller coaster. Jonnie asks John if it’s tougher to preach on the book of Job in the middle of a national emergency. The boys marvel at a friend’s athletic accomplishment, and wonder if the first marathon was R-Rated.

Also a conversation on why the Prosperity Gospel doesn’t ring true.

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John wards off a vicious beast using a surprising method, while Jonnie ponders the legality of a certain bumper sticker.

Then the boys discuss the spectrum of attitudes about emerging (too early? too late?) from quarantine, and how we should all treat each other.

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Jonnie assesses his market value for prerecorded messages to fans in Cameo, while John has Taco Bell for the first time in ages. Then the boys discuss whether the isolation is making dumb ideas trend on social media.

Also a conversation about what occurs when our values clash with the party line of our tribe, and why people are more than one thing.

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John’s wife has the wrong idea of what it means to be “low on toilet paper”, while Jonnie discovers the surprising things stores ARE running low on now.

Also, a conversation about worry, control, and togetherness in a culture raised to think of ourselves first.

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Jonnie clears up the real reason behind the toilet paper shortage 🧻, and John cashes in on the crisis with his new book 📖. Then the boys reminisce on the Rapture Panic of 1988.

Also, a conversation about saying “I don’t know” when you just don’t know.

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Jonnie breaks out of his quarantine, and immediately regrets it.

Meanwhile John has a life hack to keep him safe while jogging, and the boys ponder other jobs Jonnie could do if comedy doesn’t come back for awhile.

Also, a conversation about having confidence in God’s plan (and less confidence in our own) during a crisis.

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The boys have no idea how the internet works, and John ponders why he will never be elected to office. Meanwhile, Jonnie is forced to retire one of his jokes, and also offers several ideas for future virus-themed TV shows.

Plus, a conversation about Free Will, Doubt, and Trusting God in a tragedy.

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Jonnie accuses John of being cursed, while John takes his family to Disney and burns his diet to the ground. Jonnie wonders if God has autotune, and looks forward to the memorial slideshow of a certain person.

Then, the boys discuss the surreal new realities of the current pandemic (including jerks on social media) and John preaches to an empty room.

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The boys survive a twister, and hope we are all overreacting to the Coronavirus 😷. 

John tells us what’s REALLY being heard in your worship leader’s earpiece, and Jonnie’s friend is duped by an unoriginal poem. Also, a conversation about cyberbullying and violent prayers. 

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John filibusters Comcast, but later relents, while Jonnie gives some movie and music trivia no one asked for 🥊.

Then the boys unpack some of their Pentecostal upbringing, and discuss some of the built-in problems with faith-based films.

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The boys welcome in some friends of the podcast to commemorate the Hundredth Episode!

John nearly strangles himself trying to be a rockstar, and then gets his wife’s Love Language wayyyyy wrong as a newlywed.

Then, Jonnie tries to coach John as a comedian to get him ready for their big fundraiser show at his daughter’s school, and the gang reads some listener reviews!

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The boys take a deep dive into early 2000’s youth ministry culture, for better and worse.

Jonnie has an idea for a (weird) documentary series, and does comedy in a prison, while John tells the tale of an epic Easter production fail.

Also a conversation about Men’s Church Conferences, “Biblical Manhood”, and vulnerability.

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Jonnie thinks everyone is at least secretly fat, and John wonders why certain Biblical names never caught on. 

Then the boys lament their lack of dancing skills 💃🏼, and the disappearance of voiceover breaks in 90’s pop songs.

Also, a conversation on whether we trust God’s ways vs. our own definition of right and wrong.

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The boys rant unintelligently about daylight savings time and invent a new health disorder. John’s book gets placed in a superstore, while Jonnie has his national TV debut with absolutely zero fanfare.

Also, a conversation about fears and neuroses in parenting. 

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Jonnie gets confused by a hip-hop phrase, John has a (bad) book title idea, and the boys reminisce about an old purity sermon from their youth ministry days.

Plus, a conversation on anxiety and busyness as a false badge of honor.

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On today’s show, John and Jonnie talk about their favorite cheesy movies, football snacks🌭, and make their (incorrect) prediction about the Titans. Then John walks the plank and puts Jonnie in his will, while Jonnie is fascinated by artists who hate their most famous work. 

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On today’s show, the boys weigh the pros and cons of going back to school, Jonnie gives (unsolicited) tax tips, John hates small talk, and gets mixed messages from his wife on his 👢.

Also, a conversation on the identity crises that a creative person goes through.  

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The boys talk about parallel thought, Jonnie's battle against Father Time, and going Dutch for lunch. Then John finds hidden treasure in some books (other than the adventure of a great story).

Also, a conversation on Traditional vs. Modern Worship.

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John and Jonnie talk about being your own worst critic, and whether standup comedy is portrayed realistically on TV and movies. Then, a conversation on not "playing it safe", creatively, and the importance of staying vulnerable.

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Jonnie wonders whether the new Star Wars will ruin his childhood, and John watches Christmas movies with Sadie, but has his thumb on the mute button. Then the boys have a discussion on foul language, and its purported pain-relieving qualities.

Also, a conversation on the best Christmas gifts ever.

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The boys talk about the one trait all good leaders have, and Jonnie comes up with the perfect Christmas sermon series, & John talks about attractional elements of church, for better or worse. Plus, a frozen car horn ruins Jonnie’s night, and the guys give tips on how NOT to handle a gas fire.

Also, a conversation on optimism, and whether a negative person can change their outlook.

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On today’s show, the boys attempt to LIVE stream with mixed results. Jonnie gives up Diet Coke (for 3 weeks) & ribs the tee-totalers 🍷. John almost fights a friend (his odds aren’t good) & has a confusing salad order.

Then the boys tell some tales of bug infestation 🐜 & Jonnie defends “letting the dishes soak”. Also, a conversation on Advent and how liturgical traditions are making an impact on the modern Church.

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John contemplates buying another TV 📺 and Jonnie proposes a new invention that might (not) help.

Also, John discovers the worst ministry acronym in history, and disgusts Jonnie with his strange shower habits 🚿. Also, the boys reveal details for next week’s interactive Facebook LIVE podcast streaming!

Plus, a conversation on humility, accolades, wood, hay, and stubble. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Bowling 🎳™️: “If at first you don't succeed, eat some nachos and try again”.

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John’s hotel AC 🥶 goes on the fritz, but inspires a sermon, while Jonnie shares about his first commercial acting gig, and imagines jumping out of a plane with a famous person. Also, the boys give some tips for surviving the Holidays with extended family 🦃.

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John contemplates an exciting career in electronics, Jonnie literally freaks out about the word "literally," and the boys fondly remember life before the advent of DVR.

Also, a conversation on what fear really is and how it affects our culture and spiritual health. 

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John tries to keep Jonnie on his toes, and laments the worst Country song ever. Then the boys reminisce about being ready to “Just say NO” as a kid, while never once being offered drugs.

Also, a conversation on importance of accountability in marriage and friendships.

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John gets to meet a Tennessee legend, and immediately gets accused of a crime, while Jonnie hides from children and uses the honor system for his Halloween candy bowl.

Also, a conversation on Kanye’s conversion to Christianity, and the social media firestorm it has created.

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Our first THROWBACK episode.

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We're taking the show on the road! J&J drive to Terre Haute, Indians (yes, on purpose), and John reads his response to an angry emailer, but can't figure out the plural of the word "impetus". Also, Jonnie talks about how comedy has helped form his ideas on true community. John eats EVERYTHING, and we try to answer a listener's question about the problem of spiritual apathy.

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Jonnie gets a weird “compliment" from his wife & has a new metric for cardiovascular fitness, while John remembers being a Sword Drill Champion 📖, and confounds Jonnie with his mnemonic devices.  

The boys come up with the dumbest personality test yet 🚗, and have a conversation about things that shake our confidence.

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John gets kicked out of a hotel for being dumb & gives a great tip for wearing hoodies, while Jonnie shares how his wide hips almost killed him, and his weird reason for not eating peanuts as a kid.

Then the boys talk about rules, grace, and righteousness, and Jonnie reveals the Old Testament tradition he wishes would make a comeback. 

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John and Jonnie lament some terrible church signs they’ve seen, and wonder whether the phrase, “all press is good press” is really true.

Also, the boys have a conversation about celebrities & politicians as “role models”, and Jonnie shifts his philosophy on social media content.  

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Today Jonnie jumps out of a moving car 🚙 & gets chased by a pygmy, while John pretends to be dead. Jeffrey Holland, a dear friend & producer, joins them in studio to recount the weirdest things they’ve done to make church folks laugh, including homemade fireballs & dressing up like dinosaurs 🦖.

Also, a conversation on whether popular culture is fueling cognitive dissonance in modern Christians.

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Jonnie gets a big dumb scooter, discusses movie bathroom strategies 🎥 🚽 , and tries to keep his dog from embarrassing him. Meanwhile, John buys half a cow 🐄, and tries to convince himself it was a good idea.

Also, a conversation about intellectual laziness, and a Christian’s responsibility to keep learning 📚.

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On today’s show, Jonnie gets sick 🤒 and Laura bails him out (again). John and Laura decide to work out a few parenting issues on the air and John bemoans life with a new puppy, while Laura addresses the most worthless ten-day observance ever.

Also, a conversation about thoughtful ways to compassionately look out for one another's mental and spiritual health.

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On today’s show, the boys lament the Vols’ horrible start 🏈, and talk about the important issues- Rompers, Armpit Hair, and Helicopter 🚁 Parents.

Also, a conversation on whether we really believe God is involved in our everyday lives, and how feeling small can actually be a good thing. 

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On today’s show, Jonnie is (really) bad at golf, and does a cool show with some of Nashville’s best songwriters. And John explains the (painful) difference between deep tissue and Swedish massage.

Also, a conversation about church on Holiday weekends, and the boys tell the story of the best/worst outreach idea their church ever had.

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John talks about the two main problem issues he sees in most marriages, and deals with his own issues while running. Meanwhile, Jonnie sees a local endorsement deal opportunity for Michael Tait (of DC Talk fame), sending the boys down the CCM rabbit hole.

Also, a conversation on what it means to be “in the light”.

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John gets some weird donations, and puts them to good use 10 years later, while Jonnie vents about ambiguous test results from his doctor.

Also, a conversation about recovery and learning to be vulnerable with others about your hurts, habits, and hangups.

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Jonnie credits his (limited) success in comedy to some of the jokes he didn’t do, and John imagines what would happen if Jesus & Paul joined your small group.

Also, a conversation on marriage and hopefulness.

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On today’s show, the boys contemplate a trip to NYC for an odd reason 🍔, Jonnie learns about the violent incident that changed fried chicken forever, and John doesn’t wash a shirt for a year, with surprising results 🤮. 

Also, a conversation on agreement vs. belief.

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Jonnie does a movie🍿 and finds out he dresses badly, John goes to camp, and makes up a brand new word that will (probably not) change your marriage.

Also, a conversation on our need for affirmation.

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On today's show, John welcomes his wife, Laura, as co-host while Jonnie selfishly takes a vacation to the beach. John discusses a new addition to the Driver home and Laura goes a little overboard talking about the upcoming Top Gun sequel.

Also, a discussion about the different lenses through which we see the world and how this leads us to lean into our faith. 

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On today’s show, Jonnie extols the virtues of having friends who razz each other, John meets a potential new client and forgets how to talk, and the boys welcome comedian Marty Simpson into the studio to talk about life, football 🏈, and his chance encounter with Bono. 

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On today’s show, Jonnie ponders the book of Revelation 🐉 and sends a really dumb text to someone he just met, and John nerds out on U.S. history, leading the boys to a discussion on the idea of “American Exceptionalism”.

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On today’s show, John nerds out on his trip to Washington DC, and Jonnie  reveals his favorite comedian (in response to a listener question).

Also, a conversation about similarities between pastors and comedians as it relates to how they view their audience.

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On today’s show, Jonnie retracts his apology, John is confounded by a toilet paper commercial 🧻, and the boys ponder a career in professional wrestling 🤼‍♀️. 

Also, a conversation about spiritual metaphors and their limits.

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On today’s show, John gets to meet a former boy band star 🕺 and gets a new job title, and Jonnie fills in for a sick comedian friend on a moment’s notice, but has to perform for 2500 youth 😬.

Also, a conversation on happiness, social media, and FOMO.

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On today’s show, John gets another negative book review and gets his head stuck in the ceiling, while Jonnie owns his movie trivia ignorance and goes on a noted local TV show in his hometown.

Also, John can’t wait to make preaching illustrations from his cruise experience, and Jonnie has some ideas. 

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John sends saliva to strangers and remembers his beloved Mustang, while Jonnie worries about Skynet and reminisces about Reese’s Pieces.

Also, a conversation on knowledge vs. understanding, whether or not we can have too much information. 

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On today’s show, Jonnie has to decide between allergies and depression, John meets a giant, and Jonnie doesn’t understand weather ⛅️. 

Also, the boys welcome in Tyler Trent’s parents, Tony and Kelly, to discuss his life, illness, and ongoing legacy.

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On today’s show, Jonnie hates marketing, but has to do it if he wants to eat, while John responds to a professional book reviewer (and immediately regrets it), and wrestles with a mysterious message on a license plate.

Also, a conversation about sheltering ourselves and others from pain, and whether it’s always a good thing.

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On today’s show, John deals with a home invasion, and tries to quell his daughter’s social activism. Jonnie gives his dogs people food 🐶🍔, but is afraid to drink water onstage.

Also, a conversation on Christians in the Arts and the need for more vulnerability & adaptability.

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On today’s show, John discovers a dead rabbit 🐇💀 and is confounded by a four-star review, Jonnie is afraid of getting fired, the boys chat about changes in eyewear, and argue over cummerbunds.

Also, a conversation on a Christian’s responsibility to the environment♻️ .

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On today’s show, John cries out to “O’Rourke”, Jonnie ponders a conspiracy theory and explains why he can’t eat steamed rice anymore 🍚. Also, John runs sound for Jonnie at a show, and indirectly leads to the Mother of All Pratfalls. Plus, a conversation on the heart of giving to others. 

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On today’s show, John and Jonnie give a mea culpa for their poor golf prognostication, and remember the intoxicating smells of grade school handouts.

Plus, John forgets the lyrics to his own song, and doesn’t know how helicopters work. 

Also, a conversation on the “attractional church” movement.   

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On today’s show, Jonnie doubts Tiger 🐅 and pays dearly, John writes a book while on drugs 💊. Also, Jonnie gives himself therapy, and the boys have a conversation on taking risks, even in the face of loss. 

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On today's show, John and Jonnie welcome in their longtime friend and mentor, Pastor Andrew Wharton.

They reminisce about the early days of ministry together, Jonnie moving across the state with absolutely NO plan, Andrew almost dies in South America, and the boys extract comedy from tragedy. Also, a conversation about the change of heart that led to a new church culture. 

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On today's show, Jonnie abandons his Incredible Hulk joke, and John makes a HUGE faux pas in his sermon, with hijinks ensuing.

The boys discuss Jonnie’s (foolish) attempt to do two shows in one night in different states, and John offers to tag in.

Also, a conversation about whether or not gambling 🎰 is sinful. This episode is NOT sponsored by iPad™️: "Still cheaper than a babysitter."

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On today's show, John dreams of a long vacation 🚢, Jonnie sees disgusting things at a Philadelphia Museum (and then eats a cheesesteak), and the boys call up their old friend Reggie Dabbs to share about his 35+ years of work with students as a motivational speaker.

Also, a conversation about living in the moment vs. always focusing on the future.

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On today’s show, Jonnie tell jokes that only work in certain states, John’s turns the tables on a phone scam artist, and his neighbors get chickens. Also, a conversation on church “witnessing programs”.

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It’s our 50th Episode! Today, Jonnie contemplates a long flight without headphones, John invents things that have already been invented, and the boys discuss theft of intellectual property.

Also, a conversation on how making our lives more comfortable has also made them less interesting. 

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On today’s show, John experiences carb coma, Jonnie does comedy after an altar call, and the boys talk about the balance between being a steamroller and a doormat.

Also, a discussion on forgiveness, and how it goes against our desire for vengeance.

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On today’s show, Jonnie mumbles when he sings and gives weird gifts, John uses movies to help him parent, and the boys go down Memory Lane with special guest Mike Burnette, Lead Pastor of the fastest growing church in America.

Also, a conversation on parables, shaping culture, and whether cats are a product of the fall of man.

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On todays Show, 

The boys reminisce on their encounter with Toby Mac, Jonnie bemoans the new "culture of offense", and the death of satire, while John talks about rejection (in a good way). Also, a conversation on the purpose of the Bible, and whether current believers should be tithing. 

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On today’s show, Jonnie reconsiders his longstanding hatred of the Patriots, John longs for an Andy Bartlett Presidency, and the boys discuss the concept of empathy, and the “self-esteem” movement of their childhood.

Also, a conversation on Black History Month, and some tough truth from MLK.

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And we’re BACK! On today’s show, Jonnie explains gift card math, John falls down in his underwear (and Jonnie tries to make a sermon illustration out of it), and the boys try not to jinx the Vols. 

Also, John fills us in on his latest book projects, including “The Upset”, with Tyler Trent. Plus, we answer YOUR questions from Facebook and Twitter! 

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On today’s show, Jonnie witnesses something weird at the Apple store, John talks to his phone with a British accent, and the boys discuss the last two seasons of The Office. Also, a conversation on liturgy, and how being present is better than living from event to event.

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On today’s show, Jonnie discovers a family secret, John “uncovers” some American History, and Jonnie can’t stop (won’t stop) making catchy titles for things. Also, a conversation on justice, mercy, and spiritual blindness.

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On today’s show, Jonnie gets sensitive, John sings a bad song about Moses, and the boys reminisce on how they met. Also, a conversation about consumer culture as an obstacle to creativity.

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On today’s show, Jonnie tells the dumb story of his dumb injury, John takes his family to Disney, but only for the sermon illustrations, and the boys discuss voting, immigration, and other hot-button topics that will cost them listeners. 

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On today’s show, Jonnie devises a new use for Uber, John looks for an empty hospital room to vomit in, and the boys reminisce about the days of  churches trying to scare people into heaven. Also, a conversation on what more effectively draws people to Christianity.

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Today, John revels in the Vols’ upset win over Auburn, Jonnie cheats (but his wife is fine with it), and the boys discuss vestigial organs. Also, a conversation on how God views us vs. how we see each other.

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Today, John revels in the Vols’ upset win over Auburn, Jonnie cheats (but his wife is fine with it), and the boys discuss vestigial organs. Also, a conversation on how God views us vs. how we see each other.

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Today, Jonnie deals with distracted crowds at two events, with wildly different results. John takes a romantic trip to French Lick, Indiana (on purpose) and Jonnie tries to discern the reason. Also, a discussion on what we expect church to be vs. what it is... and how this expectation can shape our spiritual health. 

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On today’s episode, Jonnie carbs out, John finally gives Jonnie the credit he deserves, and the boys speculate on the Vols’ upcoming game vs the Gators. Also, a discussion about being better listeners, especially to those who have been hurt by the church.

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On today’s episode, John and Laura record the podcast from a new, somewhat exotic location. Laura nerds out (again) on meteorology, while John recounts the moment when a song he wrote for Laura and their newborn daughter didn't quite go over as planned. Also, a conversation about expectations and resentment. 

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On today’s episode, John and Laura opine about a strange development with the Christopher Robin movie, and also announce some exciting news about Jonnie. Aly Thayer, Founder of PPD Journey, stops by for an honest conversation about faith, mental health, and postpartum depression. 

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On today’s episode, Jonnie makes an awkward entrance to the stage, John introduces a brand new segment to answer some questions from our listener(s), and the boys ponder taking a cruise together. Also, a conversation on the death of contemplation, and how “Be angry and sin not” is only part of the story. 

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On today’s episode:

•Jonnie finds something new to be terrified about

•John tries to find a place to sit down

•The boys remember a camp service when “God Told Me...” went terribly wrong

•A conversation about our unhealthy need to know the future, and our fear of making the wrong choice

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John goes high-tech with Sadie’s allowance, but Jonnie thinks it’s not been adjusted for inflation, and the boys remember the odd trend of “tag team sermons”. Also, a discussion on the mystery of “God’s Will” for our lives.

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This week, Laura Driver dons the mic as the guest co-host while Jonnie galavants around the country. Laura confesses her discovery of what 90's music was really about, while John dubiously declares himself to be an unstoppable force in their marriage. Also, a discussion on what it means to really sit with others in their grief. 

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This week, John invents a new dance 💃🏼, Jonnie pitches Christian film ideas 💡, and the boys talk about the time Jonnie almost killed his father-in-law. Also, a discussion on positive vs. negative words, and whether they create or merely reflect our circumstance. 

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On today’s episode, Jonnie rages against false internet memes, John dreams of a book deal with Costco, and the boys discuss the value of sermon titles that rhyme. Also, a discussion about fatherhood, what it means to be a “real man”, and Jonnie weeps openly at the movies🍿.

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On today’s episode, John does his impression of a bullhorn siren, Jonnie reminisces about gross camp games, and the guys give tips on keeping your pop culture sermon references fresh. Also, a conversation on Gnosticism, and our generation’s intolerance for mystery. 

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This week, the guys pause to take a completely different direction after the sudden and tragic loss of one of their longterm friends, a young man named Weston Gray.

John shares an audio clip of the eulogy and remarks he delivered at Weston's memorial service that address the celebration of Weston's life, as well as thoughts about cynicism, community, and living real life together each and every day, even when it hurts. 

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This week, Jonnie opens his home to 5 comedians, and somehow stays married, John tells an obscure story from the Bible, and hopes he got the names right, and Jonnie goes to a fancy party with famous people. 

Also, a conversation about depression and hope, and the need for friends who embrace vulnerability. 

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It’s the 25th Show!!

And to celebrate, the guys welcome John’s wife, Laura, back into the studio. 

In this episode:

  • John chooses the wrong lotion for his sunburn

  • Jonnie talks about spending his adolescence as Mayor of the Friend Zone

-Laura develops new torture techniques for carpenter bees 🐝 

Also, a discussion about misogyny, gender roles, and identity. 

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This week, John and Jonnie opine about a host of things, including the idea that perhaps they should opine about fewer things on future podcasts. John unsuccessfully tries one of Jonnie's comedy bits and Jonnie corrects ancient lemming lore. Also, a discussion on the search for happiness directly.

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On Today’s episode, Jonnie buys scalped Laker tickets, and John gets caught with a weapon at TSA. The boys argue about whether the NBA is greater than college basketball, and what Lebron James has in common with Michael Scott from The Office. Also, a discussion on what we do with our money, and what it’s doing to us.

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This week:

• John is STILL sick, but plods through like a champion... if that champion went on to have his medals stripped for steroid use.

• Jonnie gets defensive about his recreational vehicle choices.

• John ruins petting zoos for everyone.

• Memories from the Nashville Flood of 2010

• The boys chat about the Cosby verdict, the #MeToo Movement, and the responsibility of the Church towards survivors of abuse.

Plus, a conversation about how being aware of our own depravity makes us less judgmental of others.

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On today’s episode: John considers an esophagus stretching procedure, Jonnie expects a (metaphorical) bucket of blood to fall on him, and shares his brother’s adoption story. Also, a conversation between two white dudes about racism, and the church’s potential role in reconciliation.

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This week, the John falls asleep with a lozenge in his mouth, Jonnie gets stuck in an airport, and they discuss the important topics, like whether the search for a more comfortable life is killing our creativity, and how smart phones have ruined small talk. Also, a conversation on how our impatience with mystery impedes lasting faith.

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The boys are back after a long hiatus, saying “hi” and hoping you don’t hate us. Hey that rhymed. On today’s episode, the guys talk about bribing customs officials, John gets an invite to merry old England that is too good to be true, and Jonnie deals with a performer’s nightmare. Also, a conversation on the difference between blind optimism and hopefulness, and feeling okay about some relationships not being permanent.

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John and Jonnie discuss paying college athletes, the Cold War, and the Space Race. Jonnie spends way too much time on the Flat Earth Society’s website, and John laments his wife's obsession with the volleyball scene in Top Gun. Plus, a conversation on freedom from sin, and how the Gospel isn’t only about healing our relationship with God.

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Dane is back from his whirlwind tour with Loyals, so the guys discuss the differences and similarities of the music and comedy grind. Jonnie shouts about trail mix, Dane relates a story about bands who don’t shower on the road, and John questions whether the sermons on heaven he listened to as a kid were even Biblical.

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The 3 Amigos are back together! This week, John gives a WWII history lesson while being sick, Dane shares an awkward introduction story, and Jonnie makes a rookie mistake at his comedy show. Also, the guys talk about 80’s movies that still hold up, and the unexpected dangers of churches who give out earplugs. Plus, a discussion about regret, growing old, and moving past our mistakes.

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This week, Laura Driver joins John and Jonnie as they chat about Jonnie's early hair and fashion choices, as well as Laura's double life as an amateur meteorologist. 

Everyone takes a stroll down a 1990's memory lane, and somehow Mariah Carey gets brought up yet again. They also discuss the difficulty of escaping the expectations and impressions, for better or for worse, of our younger selves.

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This week, John and Jonnie chat about being sick at school, and how lame it is to have a late December birthday. Jonnie turns to Jack Frost after an ill-advised jog, and John ponders a “dude trip”. Also, a discussion on the courage to try again. 

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This week, the guys discuss whether or not Home Alone is a Christmas movie and ponder an alien invasion. John gives a quick history lesson on “the pursuit of happiness”, for better and for worse, and Dane reveals how an open floor plan can destroy a marriage. Plus, Jonnie shares a great comedy bombing story and why failure is so much more interesting (and helpful) than success. This week’s podcast is NOT sponsored by Our New Alien Overlords®️.

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This week, John’s wife Laura joins the conversation! They reminisce about youth pastor object lessons, & Jonnie shares a story about a memorable fire his Mom started. Keeping with the theme, Dane talks about upcoming tour with As Cities Burn & the Vols try their best to put out their (literal?) dumpster fire. Then John & Laura try and fail to convince Dane to take a personality test.

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This week the guys talk about Christmas music, Mariah Carey’s remarkable quadriceps muscles, and whether there’s such a thing as “soulmates”. Also, Jonnie thinks he’s the woman in his marriage, John laments the Vols’ coaching search, and Dane refuses to take a personality test. This episode is NOT sponsored by Equifax™️.

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The guys are BACK, and they are SICK!

Listen to the boys try to suppress coughs as they discuss important topics like whether Michael Jordan’s first retirement was forced by the NBA, and ponder the mysterious decor at the Denver Airport. We also talk about the disastrous Vols coaching search, the good and bad aspects of social media’s power, and have a discussion about Inherent Moral Law, depravity, and Werthers Originals fine butterscotch candies (not a sponsor).

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John and Jonnie are back home in Bantertown and they marvel at the explosive growth of Nashville. Jonnie reveals how a certain candy is the unlikely linchpin to his testimony. The guys also take a walk down the memory lane of 90's TV shows like 90210 and Saved By The Bell. They also discuss the effects of real freedom on decision-making in relationships and in faith, and how we can sometimes be as loyal to ideas as we are to people.

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We’re taking the show on the road!! John and Jonnie drive to Terre Haute, Indiana (Yes, on purpose), and John reads his response to an angry emailer, but can’t figure out the plural of the word “impetus”. Also, Jonnie talks about how comedy has helped form his ideas on true community, John eats EVERYTHING, and we try to answer a listener’s question about the problem of spiritual apathy.

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The whole gang is back! This week we discuss Jonnie’s failing eyesight, Garth Brooks’ 5-part autobiography (!), growing up as a sheltered Christian kid on Halloween, and finding a balance between healthy boundaries and legalism.

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Jonnie reveals the art of spraining both ankles simultaneously and John talks about punching three holes in his A/C ductwork to retrieve his wife’s “magic” ring. The guys also discuss the correct order of the gospel as it relates to personal discipline and the quest to stay in control.

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This week the guys discuss what happens if you don’t shake the NyQuil, our guest, Pastor John Carey teaches Spanish to preschoolers, and Jonnie attempts comedy in a Japanese Steakhouse. Also included- our weekly lamentations over the Vols, and a conversation about how our personal biases affect the ability to see another’s perspective.

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In this episode, John and Dane opine about many random topics, including the process of collaborative writing, UT's epic loss to Georgia, and Jonnie W's superhuman recall of worthless information. Marketing guru Alyson Holland also stops by to continue the conversation about being a "good" Christian.

Alyson Holland: alyson@alysonholland.com

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In this episode, the guys talk about urban legends, proper prayer etiquette, prank wars, and what it means to be a “good Christian”. American Ninja Warrior Grant McCartney also calls in for a chat.

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Jonnie almost gets into a stranger’s car, open weeping breaks out over UT’s loss to Florida, John shares the greatest true story ever told, and the guys discuss being "colorblinded" to the the message of grace by overly familiar vernacular.

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John, Jonnie, and Dane discuss hurricane Irma relief, Tennessee Vol football, and Jonnie's nostrils.

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Welcome to the Talk About That podcast!

This is a preview episode for the upcoming show where John let's you know what you can expect from Talk About That. In Episode 1, John, Jonnie, and Dane discuss hurricane Irma relief, Tennessee Vol football, and Jonnie's nostrils, and will be available very soon. Subscribe and you will get Episode 1 when it's available. Spread the word and stay tuned!