Philosophers chatting with Clinicians: Recent Episodes

Laura Rathbone

What is Pain? Why do we suffer? What is consciousness? What is 'evidence-based' and what do we mean by 'causation'? How does science work? What is 'health' and what does it mean to be in 'good health'?

What is the meaning and purpose of life?

Just some of the questions that and great conversations that come about when Philosophers chat with Clinicians.

Enjoy!

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Episode SIX of Philsophers Chatting with Clinicians welcomes Philosophy welcomes Dr Theresa Aoko Otieno and Otieno Martin Ong'Wen to discuss health and pain through the sociao-cultural lens and what we can learn about culturally competent care from the Kenyan perspective.

About the speakers:

Dr Theresa Otieno is currently the Youth Representative at the National Technical Working Group on Reducing Emissions from Deforestation and Forest Degradation (REDD+) Readiness Project.  Prior to this role she worked as the Thematic Lead Project Assistant on Governance, Social and Ethnic Cohesion and Civic Spaces.  She recently gained her PhD in Environmental Policy after studying Philosophy at the Bachelor and Masters level.  Dr Otieno is particularly interested in how community and environment come together and how we can create systems of cohesion to better serve the planet and humanity.

Linked In: Dr Theresa Otieno

Otieno Martin Ong'Wen, known to the international physio community as the @KenyanPhysio for his work on Instagram, is a Physiotherapist, educator and speaker.  He works in a rehabilitation space seeing people with pain, injury and those recovering from cancer.

Twitter: @OngwenMartin

Laura Rathbone is an advanced physiotherapist working with people experiencing complex and persistent pain, as well supporting clinicians to develop their biopsychosocial practice, update their pain knowledge, integrate psychological processes into their rehab practice and maintains the community reading and discussion group Pain Geeks

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EPISODE 4 with Philosopher Dr Rani Lill Anjum from the Cause Health Project chatting with Psychologist Dr Shreena Unadkat.

This episode is packed with challenging information about what we call science, how we collate and use evidence to underpin our practice and some really cheesy local-radio-style editing!

We talk about the challenges facing clinicians that are navigating the tricky world of Evidence Based Practice and how exploring our philosophy of causation through dispositionalism may help us to better support the people living with complex experiences, such as pain, better. Which is the golden goal. Better care. Better access. Better services. 

If you want to learn more about the Cause Health Project head to: https://causehealthblog.org/

Click this link to download the Cause Health Book: Rethinking Causality, Complexity and Evidence for the Unique Patient.

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After a long break from publishing episodes I am happy to announce the return of Philosophers Chatting with Clinicians and this is a great episode to come back on!

This was a live recording of a collaboration session between Philosophers Chatting with Clinicians and another project that I work with: Le Pub Scientifique

This was one of our very first virtual sessions for Le Pub Scientifique Home Brew following the COVID-19 restrictions in May 2020, when so many of our in-person educational courses, meetings and gatherings were cancelled. 

So here you have a conversation between Philosopher Julian Kiverstein and Physiotherapist and Professor, Mick Thacker. During this wonderful convesation they explore phenomenology, embodied cognition and predictive processing applied to the experience of pain.

Joined by some friends and colleagues, philosopher Mark Miller and Clinicians Time Beames, Bart van Buchem, Morten Høgh and Tim Cocks, you will hear some interesting and maybe even challenging ideas for understanding pain as well as a few laughs. 

It's quite a long one at just under two hours, but it is so so worth it.

Enjoy

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Here we go folks! Episode 3 is now available. I chat with philosopher Mark Miller, who kindly joined us in the early morning from Canada, and psychologist Katinka Damen, from the Netherlands, about:

Addiction

Compulsive behaviours

Therapeutic communities

Affordances

Prediction

Error

Precision

Values

ACT

Dynamic coupling

Hysterical model

Compassion fatigue

Burn-out

Mindfulness

A great chat that really asked us all to think about our own role within the therapeutic encounter and what we might be struggling with as clinicians.

A huge thank you to all the patrons and everyone that engages with the podcast through social media! Your support is very much appreciated!

Laura x

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EPISODE TWO of Philosophers chatting with Clinicians bringing Julian Kiverstein and Tim Cocks together!

We talked about:

Skilled intentionality affordances attunement 4E or should that be 5E cognition phenomenology predictive processing ecological psychology and exposure 2nd person dimension of pain qualia DIMs and SIMs Explaining pain free energy principles the dark room problem morphology existence life whole-person perspective limitations opportunities

we mentioned:

Alva Noe Anil Seth Andy Clark Mick Thacker Daniel Dennett Jacob Howy Karl Friston Colin Klein Lisa Feldman Barrett Mark Miller Erik Rietveld

(and more probably!)....

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Yay! It's here!! The very first episode of Philosophers chatting with clinicians!

In this episode we have Adam Shriver chatting with Roger Kerry about the two worlds of philosophy and clinical practice as well as the implications for science and evidence-based practice. We explore what it is to 'do' science, the philosophical versus the clinical need and approaches to defining 'pain' and all the ethics and tensions that sit in between.

Adam Shriver is currently based at the University of Oxford in the United Kingdom at the Uehiro Centre for practical ethics. He is a philosopher with a Ph.D. from the Philosophy-Neuroscience-Psychology program at Washington University in St. Louis. Prior to Oxford, he worked at the University of Pennsylvania and the University of British Columbia.

Adam’s research examines the intersection of ethics and cognitive science and he has written multiple articles about human well-being and animal welfare. In particular, Adam’s research has examined the significance of the dissociation between the affective and sensory components of pain for philosophical theories of ethics and well-being.

To this end, Adam has written about the relationship between pain and pleasure, the legal and ethical questions that arise from the search for a neural signature of pain in humans, and the capacity for suffering across different species.

Roger Kerry is Associate Professor in the Faculty of Medicine and Health Sciences at the University of Nottingham, UK.

He is also a qualified Chartered Physiotherapist, and an honorary Fellow of the UK’s Musculoskeletal Association of Chartered Physiotherapists. His main clinical research interests have been in adverse events and physiotherapy interventions of the head and neck, particularly on the causal nature of the interventions.

Roger is also undertaking research activity in the area of Philosophy of Science, investigating the nature of causation in the health sciences.  His PhD thesis was titled 'Causation and Evidence-based Medicine' (supervised by Prof. Stephen Mumford) and he collaborates with the Cause Health project, which brings together philosophers, medical researchers and practitioners to address a major challenge: how to understand causation in health sciences.

Paper specifically discussed in the episode:

Aydede, M. and Shriver, A., 2018. Recently introduced definition of “nociplastic pain” by the International Association for the Study of Pain needs better formulation. Pain, 159(6), pp.1176-1177.