Conversations About Collaboration: Recent Episodes

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Conversations About Collaboration is a timely and multi-disciplinary podcast about how we work together. Award-winning author and recognized collaboration authority Phil Simon chats with smart cookies about remote work, the future of work, productivity, technology, workplace culture, and business processes. Oh, and lots of pop-culture references somehow make their way into the episodes.

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What's it like when a 23,000-person organization uses Slack? If you're curious about all of the communications and change management issues, listen to this episode.

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I've been on a self-imposed podcast hiatus since June of last year. In this quick episode, I tell you why I needed a break, what I've been up to, and my future plans for the pod.

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My friend Josh Bernoff returns today to talk about his excellent new release, Build a Better Business Book: How to Plan, Write, and Promote a Book That Matters.

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Dr. Vanessa Patrick joins me today. We talk about her new book The Power of Saying No: The New Science of How to Say No That Puts You in Charge of Your Life.

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Teresa Cintra joins me. She is the country manager at ncScale. We talk about LC/NC tools, Airtable, Netflix, and Anchorman. It turns out that low-code/no-code is kind of a big deal.

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Chris Shipley joins me today. We talk about four-day workweeks, pandemic-based relocation, and her new book The Empathy Advantage.

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Enjoy a 13-minute preview of my forthcoming book, The Nine: The Tectonic Forces Reshaping the Workplace.

Props to my narrator Jonathan Yen.

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Simone Stolzoff joins me to talk about his new book The Good Enough Job: Reclaiming Life from Work. We discuss unions, Kickstarter, trust, and much more.

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Michael McCullough joins me today. He’s the Citizen Development Business Architect at Amtrak. We talk about low-code, training, Microsoft, and the challenges of running one of the world’s largest citizen development departments.

New book is out. 

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Here's an excerpt from my new book Low-Code/No-Code: Citizen Developers and the Surprising Future of Business Applications.

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Jon Darbyshire joins me today. He’s the CEO and co-founder of SmartSuite. We talk about efficiency, automation, Notion, VC funding, how he started his company, and whether we’ll ultimately all wind up using a single app.

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Chaya Gutnick and Avi Hercenberg join me to talk about the staggering amount of choice in the LC/NC world. Other topics include consulting, enterprise systems, HubSpot, Apple, SmartSuite, and supply chains.

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Josh Snow from SupportDept joins me. We talk about automation, Airtable, teaching yourself new tools, how to improve business processes, and sleep.

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Jenny Blake joins me. Her new book is Free Time: Lose The Busywork, Love Your Business. We talk about tech tuition, Notion, the importance of documentation, automation, yachts, and other cool stuff.

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Christine McHone joins me today. She's a Slack Capability Leader at Slalom, a management consulting firm. We geek out on Slack, organizational change, and flexible work.

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Lizzy Lawrence of Protocol joins me. She covers tools and productivity in the workplace. We talk about productivity, Slack, Canva, Gen Z, organizational change, and other cool stuff. 

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Tiago Forte is one productive dude. He joins me to talk about his new book Building a Second Brain: A Proven Method to Organize Your Digital Life and Unlock Your Creative Potential. Legos, productivity, pencils, and metadata are also on the docket.

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Anh Dao Pham joins me. She is a VP of Product & Program Management at Edmunds. We talk about her book Glue: How Project Leaders Create Cohesive, Engaged, High-Performing Teams.

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My new book Project Management in the Hybrid Workplace drops on June 15 of this year. For now, enjoy an excerpt from the audiobook. My narrator Gary Bennett again hits it out of the park.

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Brian Elliott, Executive Leader of the Future Forum, joins me again. This time, we talk about his new book How the Future Works: Leading Flexible Teams To Do The Best Work of Their Lives. We also discuss team-level agreements, hybrid work, and the need for experiments.

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Elizabeth Harrin joins me today. We discuss her new book Managing Multiple Projects, sushi, spaghetti, side dishes, productivity, timeboxing, and more. I had a blast on this one.

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Sabine Ehm joins me today. She's a research manager at Locatee. We talk about the future of the office, how much space companies need, ideal configurations, sensors, privacy, The Reset, and a bunch of other topical stuff.

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Lucas Miller joins me today. Like me, he wears quite a few hats. The cognitive scientist teaches at UC Berkeley and researches productivity. We talk about technology, how we're wired, his work at Becoming Superhuman, his upcoming class at Section4, and cuddle hormones.

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Dr. Laura Giurge joins me today. She is an organizational scholar, speaker, and consultant. We explore the importance of deadlines and clarity, task urgency, accountability, and the notion of pre-mortems. 

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My friend Karin Reed is the show's first return guest. (Evidently, I was so charming that she couldn't resist coming back.) We talk about her new book Suddenly Hybrid: Managing the Modern Meeting, HR, the future of the office, user interfaces, employee training, and, Succession.

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Denise Brouder pops by today. The head of Sway Workplace shares her thoughts on a number of interesting subjects: the future of work, the creator economy, web3, the metaverse, the importance of incessantly asking why, and her five-lane theory of work. 

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Noah Pusey joins me. He is president and CEO of Ripple Analytics, a company that is redefining performance evaluations and employee surveys. We talk about curiosity, cooperation, traditional performance reviews, Goodhart’s Law, GE, and Air Jordan.

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Dr. Sahar Yousef of Berkeley and Josh Zerkel of Asana join me. We talk about work about work, the role technology plays in employee burnout, intentionality, trust, and clarity. We also discuss Asana's fascinating Anatomy of Work Report.

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Zoom may have introduced millions to screen-sharing, but others have been doing it for decades. Also, why are engineers innately more collaborative than most of us? I talk about these subjects and others with Till Pieper, CEO and co-founder of CoScreen.

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Nick Iovacchini joins me. He is the co-founder and CEO of Kettle. The company makes software that enables hybrid work. We talk about the formation of the company, the difficulty of scheduling employees, the potential savings of hybrid work, Uber, and transparency 

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Vanessa Bohns joins me today. She is a social psychologist and professor of organizational behavior at Cornell University. Her new book is You Have More Influence Than You Think: How We Underestimate Our Power of Persuasion, and Why It Matters. We talk about power, hybrid work, virtue signaling, destination weddings, pronouns, and the benefits of showing up to meetings even when you don't speak.

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Christopher Mims joins me today. He is a tech columnist at The Wall Street Journal. His new book is Arriving Today: From Factory to Front Door—Why Everything Has Changed About How and What We Buy. We talk about logistics, the long-term impact of COVID-19 on the supply chain, labor differences between Amazon and UPS, Frederick Taylor, and when things will go back to normal.

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A while back, I gave a keynote for the AV company Lightwerks. The good folks at the company are letting me share it in an audio format. I talk about where we are with the pandemic, the adoption of new collaboration tools, Reimagining Collaboration, and things that people can do today to collaborate better. 

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Matt Wade joins me. He is the co-founder of jumpto365. His new book is Teach Yourself VISUALLY Microsoft Teams. We talk about Microsoft's productivity and collaboration software, the overlap among its products, and the difficulty of getting people to adopt new ways of working.

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Fellow tennis nut Rob Cross joins me today. He's the Edward A. Madden Professor of Global Leadership at Babson College. We talk about the state of work and his excellent new book Beyond Collaboration Overload: How to Work Smarter, Get Ahead, and Restore Your Well-Being. Oh, and Kevin Bacon makes an appearance.

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April Rinne joins me. She's the author of the excellent new book Flux: 8 Superpowers for Thriving in Constant Change. We talk about the intensifying rate of change, agency, playlists, and the importance of letting go of the future. (Yeah, you read right.)

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Dr. Peter Cappelli joins me. He is the George W. Taylor professor of management at the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School and the author of The Future of the Office: Work From Home, Remote Work, and the Hard Choices We All Face. We talk about the difficulties of hybrid work, how it may impact cities and local businesses, and the challenges of onboarding new employees.

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Rock star and remote oracle Darren Murph joins me. He serves as the Head of Remote—cool title—for Gitlab. We talk about organizational alignment, Slack, intentionality, the importance of documentation, software development, talent shows, and much more. 

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Scott Behson joins me. He is a professor at Fairleigh Dickinson University. We talk about his new book The Whole-Person Workplace: Building Better Workplaces Through Work-Life, Wellness and Employee Support.

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John Jantsch joins me. He is a prominent marketing consultant, speaker, and the author of a bunch of books, most recently The Ultimate Marketing Engine: 5 Steps to Ridiculously Consistent Growth. We talk about the collaborative nature of marketing, Monday, customer journeys, automation, and referrals.

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Forest Key joins me. He is the founder and CEO of Voodle. We talk about stories, Slack, Clubhouse, Zoom, e-mail, asynchronous communication, and personalized videos.

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Michael Peachey joins me. He is the VP of User Experience at RingCentral. We discuss collaboration personas, Ready Player One, maker time vs. manager time, and unified communications.

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Chris Fenning is my guest today. We talk about communication styles, types, the English neo-prog band Marillion, and his award-winning book The First Minute: How to Start Conversations That Get Results.

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Erin Grau joins me. She's the co-founder and COO of Charter, a company that seeks to transform work. We talk about parental leave, equity, Jerry Maguire, and the massive opportunity for organizations to reimagine work.

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Rajiv Ayyangar is my guest this week. He's the CEO of Tandem—the virtual office for distributed teams. We talk about hybrid work, Yahoo! (yes, Yahoo!), productivity, presence, Spotify, Britney Spears, and debugging people.

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Chris Good joins me. He's the Creative Director at One Workplace.We talk about reimagining the office, going to work to get away from home, and the massive opportunity for companies to differentiate themselves via design.

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Coonoor Behal is my guest today. She runs Mindhatch—a firm that using creativity to help companies get better results. She is also the author of I Quit! The Life-Affirming Joy of Giving Up. We talk about The Great Resignation, improv comedy, saying no, and the choices that employees make.

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Brad Stone is a Senior Executive Editor at Bloomberg News. He joins me this week to talk about his excellent book Amazon Unbound: Jeff Bezos and the Invention of a Global Empire. We talk about automation, HQ2, Prime Studios, fake reviews, Seinfeld, and the tension between creativity and analytics at the world's largest e-tailer.

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Pim de Morree joins me. He's the co-founder of Corporate Rebels and co-author of Corporate Rebels: Make work more fun. We talk about self-management, employee trust, Spotify, hybrid work, e-commerce, and the world coming around to his line of thinking.

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Larry English joins me. He's the president of Centric Consulting and the author of Office Optional: How to Build a Connected Culture with Virtual Teams. We talk about trust, teams, culture, change management, and hybrid work.

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AirSlate CEO Borya Shakhnovich and I discuss the obstacles that inhibit organizations from automating manual business processes. We also talk about small businesses, change management, and the economics of automation.

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Jordan Pearce is my guest today. He is the CEO of Fringe. We talk about how to personalize employee benefits, the challenges of recognizing remote employees, and his company's plans for the future of work. 

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Bestselling author David Burkus and I discuss remote work, the difference between presence and productivity, Van Halen, bad Instagram ideas, and Office Space.

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Aaron Campbell of OhmniLabs joins me to talk about telepresence robots, AI, ethics, and Jurassic Park.

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Rohit Bhargava joins me to talk about the spectrum of work, diversity and inclusion, and the role of political discussions in the workplace. 

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Danielle Newton of Zendesk joins me for an illuminating chat about remote work, Hygge, location designations, and how her company has handled this vastly new work environment. 

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Leo Bottary joins me for a multifaceted discussion on management, collaboration, and communication. He's the author of three books, most recently Peernovation: What Peer Advisory Groups Can Teach Us About Building High Performing Teams. We talk about servant leadership, golf, basketball, and organizational learning.

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Nellie Hayat, head of Workplace Transformation at VergeSense, pops by. We discuss HSBC's decision to abandon offices for its top brass, performance management, trust, changes in real estate, transparency, and Stripe.

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Dr. Rebecca Kehoe joins me. She is an Associate Professor of Human Resource Studies at Cornell University. We talk about her research into stars, whether the pandemic has given them more or less power, and companies such as Uber, Google, and Amazon.

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Shiraz Cupala of Microsoft joins me. Cupala is the Product Leader for Microsoft Teams Meetings. We talk about AI, machine learning, the power of hubs and spokes, and roosters.

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Author and UX expert  Tamara Adlin joins me for a rocking chat. We talk about personas, collaboration, shiny new things, the four stages of competence, and the classic  Pink Floyd album Dark Side of the Moon.

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Kevin Roose of The New York Times pops by for a chat about his new book Futureproof: 9 Rules for Humans in the Age of Automation. We talk about Best Buy, Amazon, Google's scary-accurate AI tool, remote work, and ways to retain our humanity when machines rule the world. 

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Brian Elliott, Executive Leader of the Future Forum, joins me for a fascinating discussion on the dimensions of collaboration. We talk about flexibility, inclusivity, and connection. Oh, and his dog Yuki.

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Natalie Angelillo of OfferUp joins me for a rollicking discussion on how her company has handled the WFH environment. We discuss the adoption of Slack at her company and how it evolved over time. She also gives me her insights on the future of the office. Oh, and we talk about donuts.

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Firebrand Toni Cowan-Brown pops by for a lively chat about a host of different topics, including remote meetings, workplace etiquette in the WFH world, Zoom, Slack, Formula One racing, Clubhouse, Reimagining Collaboration, and more. Hell, it's probably easier if I list what we didn't discuss in this action-packed episode.

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Yeah, I’m providing an extra goodie this week. The audiobook version of Reimagining Collaboration is out now. (As of this moment, it's live on Apple Books. Expect it to drop on the other sites soon.) For now, enjoy the dulcet tones of rock star Gary Bennett in this one-chapter excerpt. The dude makes me seem pretty freakin’ smart. 

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Bill Carr is the co-author of Working Backwards: Insights, Stories, and Secrets from Inside Amazon. He joins me to talk about collaboration at the e-commerce behemoth. We discuss how the company gets so much done and succeeds where so many others fail.

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Distributed-teams expert, author, and fellow member of the bald brotherhood John O'Duinn pops in for a lively discussion.  We talk about his book Distributed Teams: The Art and Practice of Working Together While Physically Apart. We also cover Vermont’s Remote Worker Program. (Yeah, that's a thing.)

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Author, Emmy winner, and overall smart cookie Karin Reed pops by to chat about her new book Suddenly Virtual: Making Remote Meetings Work. We talk about the research behind remote meetings, emotional labor, and surface acting. Don't know what the last two concepts are? Neither did I until she taught me a thing or six.

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Brian Kropp of Gartner Research joins me to talk about his impressive body of work. We discuss employee incentives, flexibility, whether collaboration is a goal or just a means to an end, and the future of work. It's a rocking conversation and I had a blast.

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Elizabeth Kinsey of Slack joins me to talk about a wide array of topics. We discuss who's ultimately responsible for collaboration in a firm, the norms of tools such as Slack, some ways to easily automate how you work, and
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Emily Kennedy of Marinus Analytics and fellow Carnegie Mellon alumnus joins me for a rocking chat about collaboration in a startup environment. We talk about Slack, calendars, and the other tools she uses. She also mentions unique challenges that startups encounter and her methods for overcoming them.

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President of Global Workplace Analytics Kate Lister pops by for an engaging and informative chat about her work. We talk about collaboration, the future of work, the surprising savings and benefits of remote work, and the state of contemporary collaboration tools.

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Consultant, trainer, speaking coach, and Emmy winner Kerry Barrett joins me for an illuminating chat about her collaboration world. We talk about the inherent trade-offs necessary for independent folks and why she needs to use different tools—some of which are decidedly old school.

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Kick-ass writer, Jersey boy, and overall mensch Pete Croatto joins me to talk about basketball and his ridiculously good new book From Hang Time to Prime Time: Business, Entertainment, and the Birth of the Modern-Day NBA. We also discuss the often surprisingly collaborative nature of writing and research.

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Slack's Bear Douglas pops by for an illuminating chat. We discuss how companies are doing mind-blowing things with her company's collaboration hub and its spokes. We talk about Hearst, Docusign, Airtable, and other organizations pioneering the moves to automation and more effective collaboration.

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Best-selling author Josh Bernoff is today’s guest on the pod. His book Writing Without Bullshit is a modern-day classic. We talk about the merits of working for a large organization vs. being an independent. We also explore the relationship between clarity and effective collaboration.

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Infonomics author Doug Laney joins me for a chat about strategy, tools, gamification, virtual conferences, and enterprise tech. We also peer into the future. What do conferences look like in two years? We also talk about Miro and Virbela.

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Firebrand and force of nature Dr. Mary Donohue of The Digital Wellness Center joins me to talk about the intersection of stress, collaboration, and technology. We also discuss her new book Message Received: 7 Steps to Break Down Communication Barriers at Work. Oh, and bubble baths and Dianna Ross—I'm not kidding—come up during our lively chat.

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The insanely smart Dr. Terri Griffith joins me for a far-reaching conversation about higher education, privacy, artificial intelligence, data residency, and collaboration. (I try to keep up with her.) We talk about the future of academia and why it's silly to think of collaboration tools in isolation.

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In this special edition, I offer my thoughts on Salesforce's $28 billion acquisition of Slack. 

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In this episode, Formstack CEO Chris Byers joins me to talk about the future of work, whiteboards, automation, the need for in-person meetings, and resistance to new technologies.

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Dorie Clark joins me on the pod to talk about collaboration and the different hats she wears. We discuss how, when it comes to collaboration, one size never fits all. We also delve into the unspoken norms and underlying power dynamics when people collaborate.

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My friend and brother from another mother Mike Vardy joins me for an animated discussion. The productivity guru and overall smart dude talks about leadership, collaboration, and how tools like Slack, Asana, and Front alone don't solve our collaboration problems. Go Canada. 🇨🇦

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Author Todd Henry joins me to talk about the intersection of motivation and collaboration. We discuss his new book The Motivation Code. I learned how the factors that motivate one person may work in precisely the opposite direction for another.

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Renowned communications expert Dr. Nick Morgan joins me for a lively and far-reaching discussion. We talk about about body language, the science behind Zoom fatigue, emojis, and other lessons from his book Can You Hear Me?: How to Connect with People in a Virtual World

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Insanely prolific author, snappy dresser, and Hall of Fame keynote speaker Jay Baer joins me. We talk about running a remote company and how it has evolved over the past twelve years. We also chat about some of his favorite collaboration tools, including Sococo, Vidyard, and Teamwork.

An announcement on my forthcoming book Project Management in the Hybrid Workplace.

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If you think that we're returning to the pre-COVID-19 world of work, think again. The world of work has changed—for good. Remote work and collaboration will only increase in frequency and importance.

But how do you navigate this new normal? 

In a nutshell, we'll need to adopt new tools and a new mind-set. This podcast will be able to help with both. 

In this short trailer, recognized and collaboration authority Phil Simon explains what to expect from Conversations About Collaboration, his new podcast. 

An announcement on my forthcoming book Project Management in the Hybrid Workplace.

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