Runners of The Bay: Recent Episodes

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Bringing you untold stories behind the devoted amateurs and legends of the Bay Area’s running culture. Hosted by Mimi Albert and Brigitte Bradford.

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This week we talk to Dr. Jason Tso, a board-certified cardiologist with the Sports Cardiology Program and the Center for Inherited Cardiovascular Disease and Stanford’s Medical director of the Sports Cardiology Program. We talk about his path from road cycling to sports cardiology and advancing research to learn more about heart health in endurance athletes. Dr. Tso shares research on endurance sports and longevity, how heart rate data can inform training, and his own experiences as a marathoner! In addition, we talk about the Stanford Center for Inherited Cardiovascular Disease’s 5k race on April 21st and we encourage all of our listeners to sign up!

Some highlights from our conversation:

🧬What the research tells us about heart health in endurance athletes

🤷Is there such a thing as too much exercise

🫶How fast and how long to run to optimize for longevity

🩻Maintaining cardiovascular health when you have to take a break from running

🫀What HRV can and can’t tell us

⌚️What metrics to pay attention to

🎽Spots are going fast for the My Heart Counts 5k race. Sign up now!

You can find us on Instagram and X @runnersofthebay

Check out our website www.runnersofthebay.com and send us an e-mail at runnersofthebay@gmail.com.

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This week we are sharing our conversation with 𝗔𝗻𝗻𝗮 𝗟𝗼𝘂𝗱𝗲𝗻, a road and trail runner, member of the Impalas, OTQ 2020, and 2022 Team USA Gold Medalist in the 100K. We have a fun and fascinating conversation about the power of teammates, going all in on running this year, training with a coach, and going after big goals when the fire is stoked!⁣

Some highlights from our conversation:⁣

👟Training for Black Canyons and doing her first 115 mile week! ⁣

🎽 Taking a year off from work to focus on running⁣

🥳 Finding the right coach and how she’s keeping training fun⁣

🦌Learning about the Impalas while at a bar in SF⁣

🤩 The power of running with a team and believing in others as a way to believe in yourself⁣

📈How she went from a lifetime goal of breaking 3 hours in the marathon to qualifying for the Olympic Trials in 2020⁣

🌎Falling in love with ultrarunning and learning about new goals and bucket list races⁣

🏋️‍♀️How fueling and strength training have been her superpower!⁣

You can find Anna on Instagram @akacius and follow her training on Strava⁣

You can find us on Instagram and Twitter @runnersofthebay⁣

Check out our website www.runnersofthebay.com and send us an e-mail at runnersofthebay@gmail.com.⁣

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In this episode we talk to Abbie McNulty just a few days after she ran the 2024 Olympic Marathon Trials in Orlando! Abbie is a former Stanford Track & Field and Cross Country Athlete. After college, Abbie ran for the Reebok Boston Track Club (based in Charlottesville, VA) before making her way back to the Bay Area. Abbie overcame injuries and other challenges to toe the line at CIM this past December to qualify for the Olympic Marathon Trials in her first marathon. Abbie works full-time and trains with other talented runners in San Francisco.

Some highlights from our conversation:

💪 Staying tough during the last few miles of the trials when things started to get hard

💫 Expectations of what being a professional runner was supposed to look like when she graduated college

🌉 Training in San Francisco with some of the most talented runners in the country

🩷 Meeting, training, and competing with her partner, fellow runner, Colin Bennie

🌲 The ultimate Stanford Cross-Country team

🎽 Her future marathon plans

You can find Abbie on Instagram.

You can find us on Instagram and Twitter @runnersofthebay

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In this episode we talk to Cal Calamia fresh off their win at the New York City Marathon! Cal is a marathoner, educator, poet, and an inclusivity activist for trans and nonbinary athletes. In November, Cal became the first trans nonbinary athlete to be granted a therapeutic use exemption for testosterone by the US Anti-Doping agency. This trailbreaking first is a complicated story that Cal generously shares with us. Cal recently got their masters in creative writing from USF and talks about the interplay between creativity and running. They share their work to get races to include nonbinary divisions and how important it is to make everyone feel recognized and celebrated and included!

Some highlights from our conversation:

✍️ How Writing and running allow them to connect with themselves and feel connected to others

😅 Finding joy in running and competition in high school

🤩 A sneak peek of the name of their upcoming collection of poems!

⏩️ How running may have accelerated their understanding of their gender identity

🌉 How Spain and San Francisco showed them the joy and connection within the trans community

🎓 The beauty and honesty of transitioning while teaching

✊ What pushed them to apply for the therapeutic use exemption

🏆 The joy of racing authentically and winning the nonbinary division at the San Francisco Marathon, New York City marathon, and Bay to Breakers

🥳 Making sure that we celebrate the winners for all divisions at races

You can find Cal on Instagram, Strava, and check out their website!

You can find us on Instagram and Twitter @runnersofthebay

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In this episode we talk to Emily Oster, fresh off her run at CIM! If you have a kid or are expecting, you know of Emily. Emily is an Economist, Professor, Writer, Podcaster, Parent, and now, a MARATHONER! Emily is the founder of the podcast and newsletter, Parent Data. Parent Data, along with her books Expecting Better, Cribsheet, and The Family Firm, takes a data-driven approach to questions around pregnancy and parenting. She blends economics, statistics, and common sense to make the journey of parenting just a little easier. Emily is also an avid runner and a huge fan of the sport. If you follow her on Instagram you get to see Emily at the end of her runs most mornings, dishing out the parenting advice we so crave.

Some highlights from our conversation:

🎽 Why Emily went from running for enjoyment (and mental health) to racing

🌟 What makes Emily a fan of the sport

🍩 What it’s like to run with Molly Huddle (and Shane Quinn)

📊 How working experts has changed how she approaches her training and fueling

💨 Why a bad workout impacts us more than a bad email or bad day at work

🏁 Her determination to finish CIM and who, in particular, was following along

😬 Why agreeing to give a talk the day after a marathon is a very bad idea

You can find Emily on Instagram @profemilyoster and make sure to subscribe to the Parent Data podcast and Newsletter. And check out the Parent Data website which also links to everything!

You can find us on Instagram and Twitter @runnersofthebay

Check out our website www.runnersofthebay.com and send us an e-mail at runnersofthebay@gmail.com.

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This week we are sharing our conversation with Zach Litoff, runner, artists, and Santa Clara Alumni. Zach ran a 14:13 at Tracksmith’s Twilight 5000 in San Francisco this summer and paced a blistering heat 1 at the Oakland Twilight 5000. We had a fascinating conversation about his experience falling in love with running, building team culture, creativity and taking chances to pursue the things he loves.

Some highlights from our conversation:

❤️‍🔥 Loving running first and learning how to be competitive

🎽 Helping build Santa Clara’s track and XC programs

🤸 How trampoline tricks made him into a steeplechaser

⚙️Finding balance between running and other parts of his identity

🪩 Useful delusion to manage the pain of racing

🤝‍How his running and creativity go hand-in-hand

💡Starting and growing his design firm Litoff Studio

🤩Holding on to the things that brought him child-like joy

You can find Zach on Instagram @zachlitoff, his deign studio @litoffstudio and follow his training on Strava

You can find us on Instagram and Twitter @runnersofthebay

Check out our website www.runnersofthebay.com and send us an e-mail at runnersofthebay@gmail.com.

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Jay Holder is back! We talked to Jay fresh off three very important events: the New York City Marathon; the announcement that he will be the new Executive Director of Running USA; and of course, 1989 (Taylor’s Version).

We kick things off by talking about the New York City Marathon and what his role was at the race. We then get into some exciting career news and what Jay’s future being front and center in the running industry will look like. There’s also some trials talk. We wrap it up getting to the real reason we came back together - 1989 (Taylor’s Version). We talk not only, Taylor, but about the impact of pop music in general, and about Jay’s love for the band Guster.

Some highlights from our conversation:

📈Why getting older as a runner is actually a great thing

🗽The New York City Marathon, specifically the women’s race

🇺🇸Why we’ll all watch the Trials, no matter what time they’re held (update: as of 11/15 they will be at 10am ET), and the amazing job the Orlando LOC does with their races

👋 Knowing when it’s time to make a change in your career and being ok taking risks

🩵Why 1989 is one of the best pop albums ever made

🕛The importance of nostalgia in music

💽 How Jay found Guster and his love (and commitment) for the band

You can follow Jay on X @@jauntingjourno, on Instagram @jayholderruns, and on Strava. Also be sure to check out Running USA.

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This week we talked to Reisel Berger, runner, mother, and psychiatric clinical pharmacist. Reisel shares her experience with running, developing tools and an integrative approach to cope with mental illness, motherhood and running, her work as a psychiatric clinical pharmacist, and starting her own consulting business.

Some highlights from our conversation:

🥇How high expectations impacted her running performance

🌿 Her experience with an eating disorder

🔨 The downside of using running as therapy

💫 How a bigger life made her mental illness smaller

🐣 How motherhood has changed her relationship with running

♾️ Developing an integrative approach to mental health

Check out Reisel’s website for more information about her and her work. You can find us on Instagram and X @runnersofthebay

Check out our website www.runnersofthebay.com and send us an e-mail at runnersofthebay@gmail.com.

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Welcome to a peak inside Mimi's brain a little over 24 hours post Berlin Marathon.

This episode is unedited, unfiltered, and probably a little all over the place.

Enjoy!

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In this episode we talk to three participants in the SF Twilight 5000 pre and post race: Amanda Wiggenhorn, Kevin O'Connell, and Penelope Ferraro.

We talk about what led them to sign up for the race, what there expectations were, and how it all turned out! We also got to know Amanda, Kevin, and Penelope and what brought them to the sport. Each one of them had a very different journey to running and they all have big goals for the future.

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David Lam is back! David had an incredible experience racing Western States for the first time and we couldn’t resist the chance to hear all about the build up, race, and his thoughts on equity, inclusion and diversity in trail running.

Some highlights from our conversation:

🤓 Training for Western States without a coach

🎽 Racing all of the oldest races in the US in his build up

📖 The book that helped him train his mind for the race

🎉How running 100-miles is like returning to childhood

✨ The sparks of joy he encountered during the race

🧑‍🤝‍🧑His amazing crew and how he picked those people to be by his side

❤️‍🩹How the running community helps him grieve

👋The importance of seeing people who look like you at races

🤗The work he’s doing with organizations to expand access to trail racing and running

You can find David on Instagram @davidtlam and follow his training on Strava

You can find us on Instagram and Twitter @runnersofthebay

Check out our website www.runnersofthebay.com and send us an e-mail at runnersofthebay@gmail.com.

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This week we talked to Christine O’Connell, runner, Co-founder of @o.h.run.club, member of WeRunSF, Hella Bae running and noe valley run club (co-captain for this too), and ambassador for @runlocalevents, @guenergylabs, @garminfitness, @runlikeagirl_ca, @blueskyendurance, @oakrunco, and advocate for Crohn’s and Colitis. Christine shares her experience as a runner with ulcerative colitis, her passion and deep involvement with the running community, running while pregnant and postpartum, and shares behind the scenes details of the 100x1 mile women’s World Record relay race.

Some highlights from our conversation:

🙌Running as a social outlet and ending runs at donut shops 🍩

🚽Being diagnosed with ulcerative colitis in 8th grade and how she went from hiding her diagnosis to making it part of her public identity

🤳Fun details about DMs and timing strategy around for the 100x 1 mile relay World Record

💩Doing Strava art with @chanarchy

👟 Why you should go to Run Club Fest in SF on October 15

Follow Christine on Strava and Instagram

You can find us on Instagram and Twitter @runnersofthebay

Check out our website www.runnersofthebay.com and send us an e-mail at runnersofthebay@gmail.com.

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This week we are sharing a conversation with Danielle Domenichelli & Malcolm Richards, a bay area running power couple! Malcolm is a longtime member of the West Valley Track Club OTQ’ed in the marathon in 2012, 2016, 2020 and 2024, and he set the indoor marathon record in 2016 and 2018. Danielle is a talented runner (All American in the 5 and 10k and 1:16 half marathon) and has spent a decade working for Sacramento Running Association. Malcolm and Danielle share their running stories, how they met, working in the running industry, chasing big goals, and having a baby on the way!

Some highlights from our conversation:

♥️ How friend of the pod @lasala916 played matchmaker

😍 What sparked their passion for running as children

🤕 Chasing dreams when injuries keep getting in the way

🔂 The inspiration for and experience of setting the indoor marathon record at the Armory in NYC

👟 What keeps Danielle working in the running industry

🔆 Staying motivated and chasing new goals to keep running fun and challenging

Follow Malcolm on Strava and Instagram and Danielle on Strava and Instagram.

You can find us on Instagram and Twitter @runnersofthebay

Check out our website www.runnersofthebay.com and send us an e-mail at runnersofthebay@gmail.com.

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In our fourth Exchanging Experiences live podcast conversation at San Francisco Running Company we talk with the incredible mother daughter duo, Sharon Finston & Carolyn Latham. Sharon and Carolyn share the equestrian origins of Western States and their family’s multi-generational history participating in the Western States Trail ride commonly known as the Tevis Cup.

Exchanging Experiences is a live event held at SFRC in San Anselmo at 6pm on the 4th Wednesday of each month. Subscribe to SFRC’s Youtube so you can catch the livestream and follow SFRC on Instagram.

Some highlights from our conversation:

🐎How the Tevis Cup lead to Western States

🐴The training process for a endurance horse race

🩺 The logistics of vet checks, aid stations, and strict cutoff times

🏆Why Western States should have its own version of the Haggin Cup

🏅The quest to join the elite group of women who have raced the Tevis Cup and Western States

Follow Carolyn on Instagram and learn more about the Tevis Cup.

Thank you to Helke Ramos, Ted Knudsen, Leo Pershall, and Tony DiPasquale for making this possible.

Live audio and visual support by Tony DiPasquale.

You can find us on Instagram and Twitter @runnersofthebay

Check out our website www.runnersofthebay.com and send us an e-mail at runnersofthebay@gmail.com.

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In our third Exchanging Experiences live podcast conversation at San Francisco Running Company supported by Nike Trail we talk with Oscar Mejorada. Oscar shares his story of building community, creating a legendary route from the top of Tam, across the East Bay to the top of Diablo and back again, and negative splitting the Boston Marathon!

Exchanging Experiences is a live event held at SFRC in San Anselmo at 6pm on the 4th Wednesday of each month. Subscribe to SFRC’s Youtube so you can catch the livestream and follow SFRC on Instagram.

Some highlights from our conversation:

💪How personal drive, communal connection, and a love for being outside inspired him to start running

🦄The magic of feeling good in the final miles of a marathon

👏 Fostering supportive and motivating community around athletics

⛰️Developing an epic route from Mount Tam to Mount Diablo and back

👟 How the SFRC community fuels motivation and drives collective achievement

Follow Oscar on Instagram and Strava.

Thank you to Helke Ramos, Ted Knudsen, Leo Pershall, Tony DiPasquale, and Erin Edmundson for making this possible.

Live audio and visual support by Tony DiPasquale.

You can find us on Instagram and Twitter @runnersofthebay

Check out our website www.runnersofthebay.com and send us an e-mail at runnersofthebay@gmail.com.

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This week we talk to Peggy Lavelle and Shawn Sax about the SF women's 100x 1 mile world record attempt! Shawn is a runner, SFRRC board member, and director for the world record attempt relay, and Peggy is a pioneer for women’s running and a participant in past world record breaking relays. Shawn and Peggy share their personal running journeys, the evolution of San Francisco’s running community, the details of what it takes to put on a relay of this size, and their efforts to elevate women in sports.

If you can run a 5:35 mile (or faster) and want to participate in the relay taking place on June 3 at Cox stadium in SF, learn more here. Volunteers, pacers, and spectators are welcome!

Some highlights from our conversation:

👟What it was like being a women running in 1970’s

🙌The origins and evolution of the Impalas racing team

📈Shawn’s journey from being the slowest person in school to a passionate runner

♟️The logistics and strategy of a 100-person relay

📣Recruiting a diverse team of women with a 50 year age range

🏆Peggy’s story of running in the 1977 relay that set the original world record

Learn more about the SF Women’s 100x 1 mile relay here.

You can find us on Instagram and Twitter @runnersofthebay

Check out our website www.runnersofthebay.com and send us an e-mail at runnersofthebay@gmail.com.

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This is our second Exchanging Experiences live podcast conversation at San Francisco Running Company supported by Nike Trail with the Queen of Tam herself, Katherina (Kati) Laan. In this episode Kati shares her stories as a legendary local ultrarunner, being a mother of three, and her incredible FKT for summiting Mt Tam 16 times!

Exchanging Experiences is a live event held at SFRC in San Anselmo at 6pm on the 4th Wednesday of each month. It is also streamed live on SFRC’s YouTube channel. Follow SFRC on Instagram for more information.

Some highlights from our conversation:

💡What inspired her to start running in her 30s

🏅How her racing has changed from her first race to now

👏 How the SFRC community inspired her to jump into trail running and ultramarathons

⛰️The story behind her FKT for summiting Tam 16 times

👟 How the running community inspires her training and racing

Follow Kati on Instagram and Strava.

Thank you to Helke Ramos, Ted Knudsen, Leo Pershall, Tony DiPasquale, and Erin Edmundson for making this possible.

Live audio and visual support by Tony DiPasquale.

You can find us on Instagram and Twitter @runnersofthebay

Check out our website www.runnersofthebay.com and send us an e-mail at runnersofthebay@gmail.com.

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This is the first episode in our Exchanging Experiences live podcast series with San Francisco Running Company supported by Nike Trail. This first episode is with Ted Knudsen, SFRC’s owner and “Boss Man”. In this episode we talk about Ted’s love of running, his favorite races, how SFRC builds and strengthens community, owning a small business during the pandemic, and technology’s role in running.

Exchanging Experiences is a live event held at SFRC in San Anselmo at 6pm on the 4th Wednesday of each month. It is also streamed live on SFRC’s YouTube channel. Follow SFRC on Instagram for more information.

Some highlights from our conversation:

🏞️ How Ted found the trail and SFRC community

🗝️ Taking over SFRC from Brett Rivers

🪢 Sustaining SFRC’s community during the pandemic

🎽 The origins of Ted’s passion for running

👟 The benefits and limitations of tech to help runners

Follow SFRC on Instagram and Ted on Strava

You can find us on Instagram and Twitter @runnersofthebay

Check out our website www.runnersofthebay.com and send us an e-mail at runnersofthebay@gmail.com.

Thank you to Helke Ramos, Ted Knudsen, Leo Pershall, Tony DiPasquale, and Erin Edmundson for making this possible.

Live audio and visual support by Tony DiPasquale.

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This week we talk to Dr. Malene Lindholm & Dr. Jeff Christle who are currently conducting research at Stanford’s Stanford Sports Cardiology, and the Stanford Cardiopulmonary Exercise Testing Laboratory. We talk about a wide range of topics based on their incredible research including the impact of genetics in athletic performance and training, the accuracy and best use for wearable technology, the physiological and cardiovascular impact of living an active lifestyle, and what research says about how family history can be used to optimize training. In addition, we talk about the Stanford Center for Inherited Cardiovascular Disease’s 5k race on April 30th and we encourage all of our listeners to sign up!

Some highlights from our conversation:

🧬How genetics impacts training adaptation

⌚️The benefits and limitations of wearable tech to measure fitness and training

🔬Training your genes

🤝How your community shapes your approach to fitness

🫀What we know about the science of cumulative training

🥇How their work shapes their own training

Sign up for the My Heart Counts 5k race here

Participate in the ELITE Research Study

You can find us on Instagram and Twitter @runnersofthebay

Check out our website www.runnersofthebay.com and send us an e-mail at runnersofthebay@gmail.com.

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This week we talk to Jen Odenheimer, a 2:37 marathoner and a member of the Peninsula Distance Club. Jen talks about breakthrough performances, learning from disappointing races, and the power of training with a team and being inspired by amateur elite women in running.

AVID Sports Medicine is our partner so listeners can receive:

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Listeners can email info@avidsportsmed.com and mention Runners of the Bay to use these offers.

Some highlights from our conversation:

🔓 Trusting her training to unlock big performance leaps

🦄 BQing at her first marathon

🌧️T raining for Boston and racing in 2018 during the terrible weather

🌲 Joining Peninsula Distance Club

🤓 Applying lessons from running to work and personal life

🥇 Learning how to race for place versus time

Follow Jen on Instagram and her training on Strava.

You can find us on Instagram and Twitter @runnersofthebay

Check out our website www.runnersofthebay.com and send us an e-mail at runnersofthebay@gmail.com.

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This week we talk to Julieta Guzman, Head Athletic Trainer at AVID Sports Medicine, Veteran, athlete, saxophonist, and former trainer for Stanford and UC Berkeley’s Football team. Julieta talks about how growing up as a queer child in the 90s and joining the Marines shaped her athletic training philosophy. We dig into the importance of the mental, societal, and spiritual aspects of athletic performance and recovery, and how representation impacts quality of care.AVID Sports Medicine is our partner so listeners can receive: 15% off New Patient Visit 15% off Gait Analysis 50% off of Avid Fitness (code runnersofthebay) Sign up hereListeners can email info@avidsportsmed.com and mention Runners of the Bay to use these offers.Some highlights from our conversation:🤕 How her own injury spurred her interest in athletic training💪 The difference between athletic training and physical training🪴 Why AVID is the best place she has ever worked💡 The importance of seeing different types of bodies as athletes❤️‍🩹 Addressing expectations when it comes to recovery🙏 What gives her hope for a kinder, more equitable future in sports (and beyond)!You can follow AVID on Instagram and learn more about their services https://avidsportsmed.com/You can find us on Instagram and Twitter @runnersofthebayCheck out our website www.runnersofthebay.com and send us an e-mail at runnersofthebay@gmail.com.Music is California by The Spectacular Fantastic.Mixing and editing by Brian Walters at Singletrack Sound.

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This week we talk to Lauren Fleshman, whose first book, Good For a Girl, A Woman Running in a Man’s World is now available! Lauren won five NCAA championships at Stanford, is one of the most decorated American distance runners of all time, co-founded Picky Bars, is a brand strategy advisor for Oiselle, mother of two, and is married to former pro triathlete Jesse Thomas. Lauren talks about her book writing process and what it was like writing hard truths that she at times didn’t even want to admit to herself.

Some highlights from our conversation:

🛠️ The responsibility she felt to make things easier for the next generation

🗣️ Finding and balancing three voices: the expert, the storyteller, and the soap box

🤯 Unpacking what it means to be “coachable”

⏱️ How coaching Little Wing was influenced by her desire to shape a better system for female athletes

🏃‍♀️ Women in sports as a microcosm for women in society at large

🌎 How writing forces us to reflect on the stories we tell about ourselves

✍️ Her own literary influences

Order Lauren’s book here, and follow her on Instagram, and Twitter.

You can find us on Instagram and Twitter @runnersofthebay

Check out our website www.runnersofthebay.com and send us an e-mail at runnersofthebay@gmail.com.

This episode is brought to you by Avid Sports Medicine. AVID Sports Medicine is offering our listeners:

  • 15% off New Patient Visit
  • 15% off Gait Analysis
  • 50% off of Avid Fitness (code runnersofthebay) Sign up here

Listeners can email info@avidsportsmed.com and mention Runners of the Bay to use these offers.

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This week we talk to Julia Sachdev, runner, mother, and activist for mother runners with &Mother. Julia was tapering for CIM 2022 when we recorded this interview and had been training to run sub-3 hours with Lift, Run, Perform’s training group. Julia shares her experience with postpartum running, how she and her partner balance parenting duties, overcoming personal challenges and learning how to ask for help, and the work she’s doing with &Mother to reduce barriers around running and motherhood.

Some highlights from our conversation:

⏱️Defining success when you have a time goal in mind

👂The benefits of approach goals with balance and listening to her body

🍼Why she almost didn’t ask about lactation accommodations at the Boston Marathon

🌎How the benefits of accommodations for mothers at races extend beyond the people who need those services at that time

📣Embracing the role of advocate

🥰How the goal of running joyfully keeps her focused on what matters when it comes to running

You can follow Julia on Strava and Instagram.

You can find us on Instagram and Twitter @runnersofthebay

Check out our website www.runnersofthebay.com and send us an e-mail at runnersofthebay@gmail.com.

This episode is brought to you by Avid Sports Medicine. AVID Sports Medicine is offering our listeners:

  • 15% off New Patient Visit
  • 15% off Gait Analysis
  • 50% off of Avid Fitness (code runnersofthebay) Sign up here

Listeners can email info@avidsportsmed.com and mention Runners of the Bay to use these offers.

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This week we talk to Joyce Young, runner, pharmacist, and SFRCC member. Joyce shares what drew her in to the sport as an adult, how her breast cancer diagnosis impacted her running and racing this year, her experience with AVID sports medicine, racing the NYC marathon this year, coping with uncertainty and finding joy in the community, and so much more.

Some highlights from our conversation:

🤩The allure of racing and the power of the running community

🧩Experimenting with workouts, training loads, and nutrition

🎽How her running friends slowly normalized the marathon distance

💪How working with AVID Sports Medicine helped her overcome injury, gain strength, and prevent injury while training for the NYC marathon

🎗️Learning to adapt her training and deal with uncertainty after her breast cancer diagnosis

🥐Her experience with Keto (spoiler: she’s back on carbs!)

📣The pure joy of crossing the finish line and the strength of the crowd support at NYC

You can follow Joyce on Strava and Instagram.

You can find us on Instagram and Twitter @runnersofthebay

Check out our website www.runnersofthebay.com and send us an e-mail at runnersofthebay@gmail.com.

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This week we talk to Stephanie Howe, ultra runner, nutritionist, coach, mother, and advocate for women in sports. Stephanie talks to us about her path from skiing to trail running, how she became interested in pursuing a PhD in nutrition, her entrance into the professional trailing running circuit, motherhood, and so much more.

Some highlights from our conversation:

🩴Her very first cross country practice (and choice of footwear)

💪How pushing her body hard makes her feel

🎽Why she signed up for her first 50K and what came as a result

🔬What drew here to get her PhD in nutrition and exercise science

🤰🏼Nutrition throughout pregnancy and beyond

🏔️Her experience running OCC this year and life in France

👭The importance of mentors and support in the sport

You can follow Stephanie on Instagram and check out her website.

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This week we talk to Veronica Jow, a Internal Medicine and Sports Medicine doctor, athlete, and founder of AVID Sports Medicine. Veronica talks about the role athletics played in her her life and the story of and vision for AVID Sports Medicine, a cutting-edge coordinated care for athletes. AVID Sports Medicine is now a Runners of the Bay partner, offering our listeners:

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Some highlights from our conversation:

🐻How working with athletes at UC Berkeley inspired her

👯The benefits of group activity for athletic development

👟How she went from disliking running to embracing it

🗽The role New York Road Runners played in her career

⚕️How AVID gives athletes a holistic approach to injury prevention, recovery, and fitness

💡Lessons learned from starting her business right before the pandemic hit

🔥Her hot take on burpees!

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This week we talk to Laura Green, runner, physical therapist, videographer, co-founder of the November Project SF, mother, and Instagram running reel MVP. Laura talks about her experience starting the November Project in SF, what it was like leaving SF just before giving birth to her first child, her work as a PT, and obviously, what it is like being one of the funniest and most poignant voices in the running community right now.

Some highlights from our conversation:

🌉 How she was told that starting the November Project SF wasn’t a good idea and doing it anyway

🙋🏻 Finding your people by being your authentic self

💪 Not shying away from competition

🎫 The creative strategies she employed to get people to show up to the November Project SF

🚘 Leaving SF and starting over with running as a new mom while navigating all the feelings that come postpartum

🎥 Getting into videography

🎭 Her full circle journey, combining many of her passions through her instagram reels

😂 Her process for creating the reels and her comedic ambitions

You can follow Laura on Strava and Instagram.

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This week we talk to Cadence McCracken, marathoner, trail runner, trans activist, expressive art therapist, and parent. Cadence shares her powerful journey exploring identity and gender through running, art therapy, poetry, and community.

Some highlights from our conversation:

🔗 How running connected her with her body in new ways

😅 Experience training with RUN365 for her first marathon

🏳️‍⚧️ Trans joy, gender euphoria, and passing!

🤼 What’s missing from the discussion around transgender athletes in sports

🤘 How punk rock and poetry slams gave her a place to explore and express herself

🫶 Her thoughtful approach to parenting

🧑‍🎨 Getting her masters in expressive art therapy

You can follow Cadence on Strava and Instagram.

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This week we talk to siblings Ron Douglas and Shamara Carney, who co-founded of The Race Continues Track Club and coach track and field at Notre Dame High School in Belmont. Ron and Shamara share their unique journeys with running, their surprising path to working together, and how they are inspiring the next generation of runners to have a strong sense of self on and off the track.

Some highlights from our conversation:

🏃🏾🏃🏾‍♀️ How racing their cousins inspired competitiveness early on

⚖️Learning balance after trying to do it all

🏈 Developing their coaching style by taking elements of practice and competition from different sports

🙌🏾 How being siblings impacts the kids they coach

🔗 Integrating mental health with physical health

🤗 Finding ways to make connections with everyone

🌳 Developing a strong sense of self outside of sports

You can follow Ron on Instagram @coachrondougie, Shamara at @shamaracarney, and check out The Race Continues Track Club.

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This week we talk to Frank Chan, a stalwart of the San Francisco running community. Frank may be best known for his incredible Strava art, but we learn so much more about Frank in this episode including his commitment to engaging and supporting the San Francisco community as a whole during the pandemic, and how is approach to running changes when he is in pursuit of different goals. Some highlights from our conversation: 🏃🏻 How running evolved from punishment as a childhood to a key expression of himself 🌁 His journey running every single street in SF during the pandemic 🎨 His very first piece of Strava art and the ensuing evolution of his projects 💭 His detailed approach to mapping out and tackling his Strava art 🏅 How he balances his own goals and training with his artistic pursuits 🤗 Becoming a volunteer pacer for Run365 💪 How he views himself as an athlete You can follow Frank on Instagram and Strava. You can find us on Instagram and Twitter @runnersofthebay Check out our website www.runnersofthebay.com and send us an e-mail at runnersofthebay@gmail.com. Music is California by The Spectacular Fantastic. Mixing and editing by Brian Walters at Singletrack Sound.

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This week Michelle La Sala of Blistering Pace Race Management returns to talk about the return of in-person racing, what’s changed, how we can support races even if we aren’t running, and the inaugural Wineshine Half Marathon. Some highlights from our conversation: 📣 How things have changed as in-person racing returns 💸 Why inflation isn’t the only reason race registrations have increased 🛠 How her team and work has had to adapt 🔮 The challenge with projecting the future 🌉 Why the Bay Area racing calendar will likely look different in the coming years 💎 Her passion for creating “forever memories” while promoting health, community, and wellbeing 🎉 Why now is a great time to volunteer at your favorite race 🥲 What brought her to tears at the SF Half Marathon You can follow Michelle on Instagram and Strava and Blistering Pace on Instagram and Strava. Sign up for the Wineshine Half Marathon or 3.9-Miler https://wineshinehalfmarathon.org/registration/ You can find us on Instagram and Twitter @runnersofthebay Check out our website www.runnersofthebay.com and send us an e-mail at runnersofthebay@gmail.com. Music is California by The Spectacular Fantastic. Mixing and editing by Brian Walters at Singletrack Sound.

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Matt Lenehan, member of the Peninsula Distance Club, 2020 Marathon OTQ, engineer, and videographer joins the podcast to talk about his journey from hating running in high school and being the last person to make the cut for UCSD’s team to qualifying for the 2020 marathon olympic trial and how skate videos inspired him to learn how to make videos.

Some highlights from our conversation:

🙌How early sparks of confidence built his love for running

⚡️Benefits of training with people who are faster than you

🎽What kept him running after college

⌚️ Learning about GPS watches and Strava

🌲Joining Peninsula Distance Club

👟Qualifying for the Olympic Trials with an untied shoe

📹Drawing creative inspiration

📱Why he feels like sending running a “u up?” text

You can follow Matt on Instagram and Strava.

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Ayako Sawanobori, accomplished runner, co-lead of the Anti-Racist Run Club and longtime supporter of Girls on the Run and Back on My Feet, joins the podcast to talk about her journey from gymnastics to running, running and advocacy, and how healing and comeback are a theme throughout her running. Some highlights from our conversation: 🤸 Intense gymnastics training as a child 👟 Finding track after getting injured⁣ 🎉 Loving being a middle of the pack runner 🔂 Embracing being a forever beginner⁣ 👋🏽 How she and her dad have used marathons to bond and heal after a loss ✊🏾 How the Anti-Racist Run Club is focusing on awareness, education, and action 🎽 Training for her first ultra!

You can follow Ayako on Instagram and Strava, and follow Anti-Racist Run Club on Instagram  You can find us on Instagram and Twitter @runnersofthebay Check out our website www.runnersofthebay.com and send us an e-mail at runnersofthebay@gmail.com. Music is California by The Spectacular Fantastic. Mixing and editing by Brian Walters at Singletrack Sound.

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Jessica de Leon, founder of Hella Bae Running joins us on the podcast today to talk all things Speed Project and her journey to the 2022 Boston Marathon, plus much more!

This episode is dedicated to Athena Liberatos Dawes, the beloved mother of two of Hella Bae Speed Project runners. The love she had for her daughters represents all the motherly love we had carrying them through the desert.

You can support Jess’s fundraising efforts for the 2022 Boston Marathon in support of MDA Team Momentum by going to: https://www.givengain.com/ap/jessica-de-leon-raising-funds-for-muscular-dystrophy-association/

Some highlights from our conversation:

🌉Finding her running community in the Bay Area

🎽Starting Hella Bae running and how important that was during the pandemic

🎉The epic-ness of The Speed Project

🙌Setting milestones for yourself and being down for anything

🦄The 2 year journey to run the Boston Marathon with MDA Team Momentum

🚫Setting boundaries and making time for yourself

💪Women’s empowerment in running and at work

You can follow Jess on Instagram and Strava.

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Dena Evans, accomplished runner, soccer super-fan, coach, Club Director for the Peninsula Distance Club, mother of two, and Stanford track and cross country coach from 1999-2005, joins the podcast to talk about her unlikely journey to coaching and embracing opportunities outside of her comfort zone.

Some highlights from our conversation:

🏞 Being challenged by outdoor fitness adventures early in life

📈 Learning how to build up to big adventures

🎽 Being a multi-sport athlete throughout college

🙅🏽‍♀️ Thinking she never wanted to be a coach

👋🏽 Coaching and recruiting athletes that weren’t much younger than her

💅🏽 Developing her coaching style

🎽 The role running plays in her own life

You can follow Dena on Instagram and Strava, and follow Peninsula Distance Club on Instagram

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Jenny (Donnelly) Grimshaw, a new member of the Impalas, joins the podcast to talk about her start in running, how her relationship has evolved throughout her life, what led to a mental breakthrough, and what running means to her now.

Some highlights from our conversation:

😂 Being tricked into her first “long run”⁣

🙉 Struggling with race anxiety⁣

👯‍♀️ Finding her running community in New York City⁣

🐙The path to her QTQ and all things post-race octopus⁣⁣

❤️ Testing positive for the BRCA gene and her path to having her son, Tate⁣

🗽Running the FKT of the NYC perimeter with some of her best friends

🏃🏻‍♀️What running means to her right now⁣

You can follow Jenny on Instagram and Strava.

You can find us on Instagram and Twitter @runnersofthebay

Listen to Jenny on these podcast episodes!

Jenny & Judi Donnelly on Ali on the Run

Ali on the Run Friendship Fest with Jenny Grimshaw & Grace Keller

Ali on the Run Live Olympic Trials Show Check out our website www.runnersofthebay.com and send us an e-mail at runnersofthebay@gmail.com.

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Morgan Meade, a member of Peninsula Distance Club, joins the podcast to talk about her unlikely start in running, surprising herself, taking breaks, and training for her first marathon.

Some highlights from our conversation:

👑 Her experience as a competitive cheerleader

🌓 Focusing on fun when trying new things

🎯 The power of being satisfied with a wide range of possibilities

😍 Learning how to be a runner when you can’t run

😫 Taking time off to rediscover her passion for running

🎤 How a long run to Hawk Hill inspired her to run her first marathon

🎧 Training for her first marathon

You can follow Morgan on Twitter, Instagram, Strava, and her blog https://www.morganmeade.com/

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Dana Giordano, elite track athlete, Host of the More Than Running podcast, women in sports advocate, and digital marketing professional, joins the podcast to talk about her recent move to the Bay Area, creativity and the importance of broadening the way we cover athletes, and trying new things and being playful with running and life.

Some highlights from our conversation:

👑 Jumping into SF running scene with the Chase the Throne series

🌓 Realizing the benefits of separation between career and running

🎯Throwing out timelines to achieve goals

😍 The best run of all time

😫 Embracing creative fits and spurts

🎤 Encouraging more athletes to share their voices and perspectives

🎧 The evolution of her podcast

🤳 Having fun with social media

You can follow Dana on Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, Strava, and listen to her podcast.

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Casey Corman, road and trail runner, endurance cyclist, lover of Type II fun, and marketing professional, joins the podcast to talk about his athletic journey from coming in DFL at high school cross country meets to doing BIG training for the Napa Valley marathon.

Some highlights from our conversation:

🏃🏻‍♂️Doing workouts when things aren’t perfect

⏱Figuring out race goals when you’ve taken leaps since your last race

🔨Training aggressively so the marathon feels like just another training run

🦵Having compartment syndrome in both legs as a kid

🏁How a Ragnar race inspired him to take running more seriously

⏳How running helped him find a community outside of work

👟Learning a new running gait

💎Sharing Type II fun with his father

💯Doing a 100+ mile week during Des Linden’s Run Destober Challenger

🤫The power of being a “quiet minded” runner

You can follow Casey on Instagram @cormancasey and follow his training onStrava

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Anh Bui joins the podcast to talk about her journey to becoming a Doctor of Physical Therapy, starting her own run coach and PT business, Run Resiliently, and breaking 3 hours at CIM after DNFing at the Chicago Marathon. Some highlights from our conversation: 🔨 Breaking 3 hours in the marathon at her third marathon this year 🩺 Having to be her own PT mid-race 💎 Trusting lifetime fitness when training blocks are imperfect 💪 Why it is better to go into a race undertrained 🏀 Finding running after being cut from the basketball team 👟 The importance of an individualized approach to gait assessments 👀 How watching elite athletes in Boulder helped her learn what it takes to be an elite runner 💁‍♀️ Starting her own practice, Run Resiliently 🪢 Working with Renegade Running in Oakland to promote inclusion and diversity in running You can follow Anh on Instagram @runresilientlydpt, check out Run Resiliently at https://www.runresilientlydpt.com/, and follow her training on Strava. You can find us on Instagram and Twitter @runnersofthebay Check out our website www.runnersofthebay.com and send us an e-mail at runnersofthebay@gmail.com. This week’s episode with Anh Bui is brought to you by: EverAthlete, the online strength and mobility training community for outdoor enthusiasts!  Visit www.everathlete.fit/ and use code ROTB50 to get 50% off your first month! Music is California by The Spectacular Fantastic. Mixing and editing by Brian Walters at Singletrack Sound.

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Amy Leedham, professional trail runner, 2:48 marathoner, architect and sustainability consultant, wife, and mother to Aila, joins the podcast to talk about her postpartum journey and how she balances running at a high level with work and now motherhood.

Some highlights from our conversation:

⚽️ Love for running started on the soccer field

🦄 Going to school in Boston inspired her to run the marathon

🐿 Pursuing a demanding career as an architect and carving out a specialty in sustainability

⛰ How she got her start as a trail runner

⏳ Her approach to setting work boundaries, working efficiently, and finding time

😫 Going from breakthrough races in 2018 to a stress reaction in 2019

🤰 Challenges of being pregnant and postpartum during COVID

💪 Having to be her own research to learn how to heal and strengthen her body after pregnancy and giving birth

You can follow Amy on Instagram @amy_the_punisher, onStrava, and read more about her postpartum journey here.

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Holly Clarke of the Impala RacingTeam returns to talk about what she’s been up to since we last spoke to her in August of 2020. We recorded this episode before the USATF announced the new Olympic Trials Qualifying standard and before Holly ran CIM and (spoiler alert), saw that 2:37 and said, “hold my Negroni” and ran a 2:36:52. Holly is always a delight to talk to and we loved having her back on!

Some highlights from our conversation:

🏔 How her first “ultra” went (and whether or not she considers it an ultra)

🎽 Deciding to make a shift in her coaching and training situation

👯 Training with her best friends who are also often her toughest competitors

💖 Focusing on the process rather than the outcome

⏳ Balancing training with big life changes

💉 Why race organizers should offer boosters at the end of a race

💩 What you should yell at her while cheering for her in a race

You can follow Holly on Instagram @hollywoodclarke and on Strava.

Listen to Episode 16 with Holly!

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Sophie Payne of the Impala RacingTeam joins to talk about how she found running after burning out on soccer, finding her running team, training for CIM and racing with some of her best friends, and going to the Tokyo Olympics for work.

Some highlights from our conversation:

⚽️Loving team sports as a child

🇪🇸Signing up for her first half marathon while studying abroad in Spain

🔥How she reconnected with her competitive spirit after athletic burnout

💫Why the 2018 Chicago marathon was a turning point for her identity as a runner

⚖️Balancing the pressure to improve with the simple joy of training

🗼Exploring Tokyo by running around with friend of the pod, Jay Holder!

🏃‍♀️Training mentally and physically for a marathon PR

You can follow Sophie on Instagram @sophyay and onStrava.

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Pamela Iwaszewicz, winner of the Skyline to Sea 50k and member of David and Megan Roche’s SWAP team, joins the pod to talk about her running journey and switching from trails to the roads to train for CIM.

Some highlights from our conversation:

❤️‍🔥How a race in the 3rd grade cemented her passion for running

🙌Why she walked on and then off the team at UC Davis

🏃‍♀️Starting a women’s running club that’s still active

🌲 A trail run in Santa Cruz that was the worst… and the best

🤝 Meeting her coach David Roche at a trail race in Pacifica

🙏 Learning to believe in herself

⚡️ Deciding to chase some speedy goals on the roads

🙃The power of renaming the hard parts

You can find Pamela on Instagram @pamela.iwaszewicz/ and follow her training onStrava

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Imran Khoja, entrepreneur, Stanford Graduate School of Business alum, and sub 2:45 marathoner (and good friend of the Pod), joins the podcast to talk about training for CIM and how he balances working hard, training hard, and running fast.

Some highlights from our conversation:

🏃🏾 Finding community in sports all over the world

☀️ Learning how to show up on the days when you’re not feeling good

🔁 Why running is a kind learning environment

🎽 How business school inspired him to run his first marathon

🛠 Figuring out the right tools and community to help him run big, hard miles

💪🏾 How running helps him be a better entrepreneur and stave off burnout

😵‍ 💫 Getting so excited about racing and signing up for races when he can’t sleep

You can follow Imran’s training onStrava.

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Lizzy Rountree (episode #53) returns to the pod to talk about her new coach and training for CIM, which will be her first marathon since the Olympic Trials. Lizzy shares how she’s evolved as an athlete since her last marathon and what will be different this time around at CIM.

Some highlights from our conversation:

💃 Why an acute injury earlier this year was actually a blessing

🙌 Working with Dena Evans as her coach

🙅‍♀️ Deciding not to run Chicago

🏠 How working from home has helped her improve her running and recovery routine

📋 Changes in her marathon training

🙏 Gratitude for the return of in-person racing

🍝” Michael Scott-ing” the night before the Urban Cow Half Marathon

You can find Lizzy on Instagram @lizzy.rountree and follow her training on Strava

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Mimi Albert (now Kellogg) shares her experience at the 125th Boston Marathon, and spoiler alert: it was a hard day. We talk about the days before the race, her mindset going into the race, what it was like racing a marathon for the first time since the pandemic, and how quickly the fire to race again returns after she crossed the finish line.

Some highlights from our conversation:

💊 Dealing with a dreaded UTI in the days before the race

🙅‍♀️ Recognizing and rejecting her disordered eating voice

😎 The vibe in Boston pre-race

🏁 The strangeness of the rolling start

🏃‍♀️ Executing her race plan for the first half

💧 Feeling the dehydration hit at mile 16

🔂 Having to take it one 400 meter at a time

💪 Being the most sore she’s ever been post-marathon

👰‍♀️ The challenge of running a race 10 days before her wedding!

🧥 The best and worst Boston Marathon jackets

Follow Mimi on Twitter @MimsMPH and on Instagram @mimsers84. You can also find her on Strava as Mimi Albert Kellogg.

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Jenni Dubman, co-founder of Nth Degree Athletic Club and leader in the Bay Area running community joins the pod to talk about her running origin story, finding her people in the running community, and why she felt a responsibility to grow and preserve the running community that helped shape her.

Some highlights from our conversation:

🌉 Her experience leading Take The Bridge in SF

🐢 Coming in dead last in cross country races in high school

⏩ The transition from running being a hobby to a lifestyle

🪝 How Concrete Runners and Nike Run Club got her hooked on the running community

👟How running gives her confidence to see what’s possible

👩‍💻Balancing a professional identity as a runner and a high-stress corporate job

🪢Creating an inclusive training group with high level coaching

Follow Jenni on Instagram @sherunssf and Nth Degree Athletic Club @nthdegreeac

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Matt Forsman is back to the podcast to talk about the return to in-person racing and how his Haunted Bay Area Road Trip has evolved since last year. Matt discusses why this April was a breaking point for him and the challenges of figuring out the right mix of in-person and virtual events. We also hear how the Ninja Loop was the origin for his racing company Sasquatch Racing.

Some highlights from our conversation:

✅ The challenges of getting a permit for an in-person race

🔗 Inclusivity in event organizing

🎽 The return of group training

🧠 The mental health components of in-person training and events

🚨 Addressing our depleted surge capacity

🤩 His personal renaissance

🐲 The creative evolution of his races

💡 Finding his best ideas on long runs

Check The Haunted Bay Area Road Trip!

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In today’s episode we’re chatting with Mike Olzinski, runner and coach at Purple Patch Fitness and Nth Degree. Mike shares his evolution as an athlete, and how his own running has shaped his coaching philosophy. Some highlights from our conversation: 💥 The power of the “fake it until you make it” philosophy 🧘“Dude, breathe” 🦷 Going from dental assistant to a career in athletics 🎽 Racing at open track meets and embracing coming in DFL 💫 How he used a 1:1 coaching appointment with Matt Dixon to get a job at Purple Patch 🧪 Finding confidence experimenting with different training methods 🧬 Being a living laboratory for his athletes and asking for help from other coaches You can follow Mike Instagram @mikey.olz12, Twitter @mikeolzinski, and on Strava. Join Mike at Kezar on October 9th @ 10am for Under Armour’s All-Out Mile challenge https://link.heylo.co/1H92 Check out our website www.runnersofthebay.com and send us an e-mail at runnersofthebay@gmail.com. This week’s episode with Mike Olzinski is brought to you by: EverAthlete, the online strength and mobility training community for outdoor enthusiasts!  Visit www.everathlete.fit/ and use code ROTB50 to get 50% off your first month! UCAN. Visit ucan.co/discount/rotb/ for 15% off! Music is California by The Spectacular Fantastic. Mixing and editing by Brian Walters at Singletrack Sound.

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In today’s episode we’re chatting with Garrick Chan, founder and creator of Asian Athlete Spotlight, writer, and member of the Bay Area’s Wolfpack Running Club. Garrick shares what inspired him to start Asian Athlete Spotlight on Instagram, how he expresses himself as a writer, and how he found running at an early age.

Some highlights from our conversation:

👟 Garrick’s running goals and his journey to a sub-16 5K

🎽Training for and completing his first marathon

🌠Why creating a space on the internet to highlight the stories of Asian Athletes is so meaningful

💔His own experiences with racism

🚧His early challenges as an athlete

🚀His plans and hopes for the future

You can follow Garrick Instagram @gvc1992 and the Asian Athlete Spotlight on Instagram @asianathletespotlight, and check out Garrick’s writing on Medium.

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In today’s episode we’re chatting with Jay Holder, the Director of Marketing & Communications for The Atlanta Track Club, runner, dad, and co-founder (alongside local legend and friend of the pod @cait.chris) of the Charlotte Run Club. Jay shares his experience as the host of the Marathon Olympic Trials in 2020 and working at the Tokyo Olympics. We learn about Jay’s own running, merging his passion for running with a job in running and how he’s using story to drive inclusivity and inspire more people to see themselves in the sport.

Some highlights from our conversation:

👟 Finding running because he loved running warmups at other sports and running to a friend’s house

🔗 The lifelong bonds of his high school XC team

🎽 Meeting Caitlin Chrisman and co-founding the Charlotte Running Club

🌉 Bridging the running community across paces, experience, and distance

🗽Our mutual love for the NYC Marathon

🥉 How he found out that Molly won the bronze in the marathon

🙋‍♂️ Putting himself in places where opportunities are likely to come arise

📣 How the stories of these Olympics went beyond the medals

🔄 Support and partnership from his wife Lauren

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In today’s episode we’re chatting with Dez Taylor-Douglas, a runner, scientist, SF captain at Midnight Runners, and dog dad. Dez shares how he grew up on the track and how his running started off as pure fun and how he got back to that place after getting burned out. Dez talks about how intuition, community, and solidarity have helped him find his path on the roads, trails, and life. Some highlights from our conversation: 😵 Racing so hard that he passed out 👟 A devastating injury during a big pre-race workout 👀 Running a marathon on a week’s worth of training 🔑 Trial and error to find your community 🧷 Promoting a sense of safety within the running community 🥶 Training for his first 50k in the winter in DC 🏃🏾 Why he cements all big decisions on runs 🌀Working through mental health issues and talking about not being okay You can follow Dez on Instagram @rundezzyrun and find him on Strava You can find us on Instagram and Twitter @runnersofthebay Check out our website www.runnersofthebay.com and send us an e-mail at runnersofthebay@gmail.com. This week’s episode with Dez is brought to you by: EverAthlete, the online strength and mobility training community for outdoor enthusiasts!  Visit www.everathlete.fit/ and use code ROTB50 to get 50% off your first month! UCAN. Visit ucan.co/discount/rotb/ for 15% off! Music is California by The Spectacular Fantastic. Mixing and editing by Brian Walters at Singletrack Sound.

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In today’s episode catch up with Deanna Kwong and Eric King to hear about their experience at Western States. Eric was featured in our Western States series and shortly after our conversation he reached out to us looking for a pacer. Enter returning guest Deanna, who jumped at the chance to help Eric. In this episode we talk about how Eric and Deanna first started talking about a pacing strategy, about Deanna’s mindset as a pacer, how Eric’s first part of the race went, and their different perspectives and experiences out there on the trail.

Some highlights from our conversation:

🏃 Eric’s first time having a pacer

👋 The importance of helping rather than hindering

🧠 Re-setting expectations and goals during the race while staying mentally tough

🌚 Finding each other in the dark

👯 How having company in the dark makes it all a little less scary

⌚ The impossible nature of doing math during an ultra

⛰ All the small little hills and rocks that slow you down in those final miles

💪 How pacing helps Deanna be a better runner

📸 Getting a selfie with Kaci Lickteig in the last stages of the race

😳 How disorienting the high energy of the track was after spending 29 hours in the quiet woods

🚘 The license plate holder

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In today’s episode we’re chatting with Gabi Maudiere, a runner, personal trainer, run coach, intuitive eating counselor, and a passionate advocate for anti-diet athletes. Gabi shares how her relationship with running and disordered eating led her to ED recovery and ultimately her passion for intuitively eating and helping other athletes learn how to honor their own health with “gentle nutrition”. She also gives us a behind the scenes take on crewing her partner at Western States this year and doing a 14-day hike on the John Muir Trail!

Some highlights from our conversation:

🔥 What led to her burning out on running by her junior year in college

🎽 How her relationship with being an athlete has changed as she’s gotten older

🤔 Unlearning diet culture and weight culture

🍔 How a post-race burger was an aha moment

🥾 Her experience hiking the John Muir Trail and learning about the indigenoius origins of the trails around us

👏 Being proud of her partner for dropping out of Western States this year

You can follow Gabi on Instagram @gabi_maudiere, Strava, and check out her website https://gabi-maudiere.com/

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In today’s episode we talk to Stanford athlete, Julia Heymach. Julia recently capped off an amazing season of Cross-Country and Track with an incredible run at the US Olympic Track and Field Trials in Eugene, OR where she was the only female collegiate to make the 1500m final. Julia set the PAC-12 Championship Record in her first 5,000m ever and now owns the Stanford Women’s 1500m record. We learned so much from Julia in this episode: from her positive outlook and approach to training and racing, to her perspective on how to find balance as an elite athlete. Julia has one more season left at Stanford and we can’t wait to cheer her on!

Some highlights from our conversation include:

🏆 Running during the Presidential Fitness test and realizing that she was naturally gifted, leading her to join her first track team at around 9 years-old

🧠 Her ability to stay present and focused on the now and near future

🌲 What drew her to Stanford

📈 Adjusting to higher mileage in college and felt like she had to step up in order to keep up with the rest of the team

🎽 Going through a coaching transition through college

🏁 Trusting and having confidence in her race strategy and knowing how to kick at the end

⭐ Never putting limits on herself and her ability

🚀 Learning from every race, regardless of the result

🧪 Experimenting with different differences (but the 800 holds a special place her her heart)

🌅 The freedom that comes from running without expectations

🌀 Choosing joy in running, knowing that fitness ebbs and flows

📆 The importance of having a regular period and weight throughout high school and college

🔔 Knowing what she needed in each heat at the trials to inform her strategy

💯 Setting incremental goals that helped her get one step closer to her ultimate goal

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In today’s episode we’re chatting with Michelle Chang, a runner, Googler, mother, traveler, and member of the Impalas. Michelle shares her thoughtful 7-phase running journey that began with her playful desire to chase boys and is currently in a recovery phase where she is finding balance with running and motherhood.

Some highlights from our conversation:

🙅‍♀️ The downside of using running as a panacea or as therapy

🙌 Working with Oiselle to build a brand at the center of feminism, empowerment, and athletics

👟 How running helped her in recovery from an eating disorder

🚵‍♀️ Discovering a love for mountain biking while recovering from injury

🧭 How running helps her navigate an ambiguous career

🦊 Why you shouldn’t “sneak in your run”

🚐 Getting a van to travel with her family during covid

🎽 Inspired by the Impalas to qualify for Boston

You can follow Michelle on Instagram @madamichelle and on Twitter @michellelchang

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We welcome great friend of the pod, Jordan Kutzer back to talk all things USATF Olympic Trials. Jordan, otherwise known as Boyfriends of Oiselle (he is the BF of Little Wing athlete and 1500 meter superstar, Rebecca Mehra). In this episode we talk about what it was like to have a front row seat to the biggest meet of a track and field athlete’s career.

Some highlights from our conversation include:

😎 Cooling down from the record temperatures in Eugene

🐱 What it’s like to support a pro athlete as they get ready for the trials

⏰ The oddity of an athlete’s entire career boiling down to just a few minutes or even seconds

🌍 The outsized importance we all put on global championships, especially the olympics

📈 How the USATF can help grow the sport by allowing athletes to better represent their sponsors during the events

💘 Our favorite performances

🐦 Rebecca’s race plans during the trials

👟 Bouncing back from the 1500 to run the 800

🧀 The now infamous “Will run for cheese” tweet and subsequent response

🌲 Stanford pride and the way they represented at the trials

🔥 Our obsession with Sha’Carri Richardson and why we think she is the future of this sport, regardless of the whole THC thing (we love you Sha’Carri and we can’t wait to watch you set the world on fire for years to come)

The tl;dr of it all is that we love track and field!

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In our third and final episode in our Western States local runner series we’re chatting with Donal Carroll! Donal was not an athlete in school but a friend convinced him to run a marathon and that race unlocked a desire to see what he was capable of. A desire that pushed him to run marathons for 20 years and now ultramarathons. We talk about overcoming challenges in training -- both mentally and physically. His motivation for pushing through the hardest parts of a race and the mystical status of Western States. We recorded this interview less than two weeks before Western States, and spoiler alert: he finished in 28:56:12!

Some highlights from our conversation:

🥵 His approach to heat and elevation training

👏 Pushing through a mentally difficult race at 2017 Tahoe Rim 100 miler

⛔️ DNFing Quicksilver 100k at 99k

💬 Learning that he got a lottery spot in Western States via a comment on Strava

🩹 Overcoming injury early in this training cycle

🌎 How running was a source of connection to the world during the pandemic

⏳ Feeling like ultras are life in a day (shout-out to Billy Yang)

😴 What he learned from taking an hour long nap at an aid station

You can follow Donal’s training on Stravaand follow him on Instagram @donalstar

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PK Karr ⁣ In our second episode in our Western States local runner series we’re chatting with 𝗣𝗞 𝗞𝗮𝗿𝗿! PK is from Redwood City and got into Western States after 4 years of lottery tickets. PK shares how Fleet Feet Menlo Park got him into trail running in his 50s and it was the Western States plaque at Squaw Valley where he first learned about the race. PK shares how he shares his love of running with his wife and how they have different approaches to data and training but often arrive at the same conclusions. We talk about trying to learn to love running in the heat and thinking of bad weather as a blessing because it makes running an adventure! ⁣ Some highlights from our conversation:⁣ ⁣ 👟 How his training shifted during the pandemic⁣ ⁣ 🐝 Fun stories from the Western States training camp⁣ ⁣ 📣 Hearing his name called during the lottery⁣ ⁣ 🏃‍♀️ Having his wife be his crew chief and pacer for the final 20 miles⁣ ⁣ 🤐 The “Trail NDA”⁣ ⁣ 🌿 His trick for pushing through dark moments in races⁣ ⁣ 🔢 Being a data driven student of the sport⁣ ⁣ ❤️ Spending life leaning into the things he loves⁣ ⁣ You can follow PK’s training on Strava. Find him on Instagram @pkultrarunner⁣ ⁣ You can find us on Instagram and Twitter @runnersofthebay⁣ Check out our website www.runnersofthebay.com and send us an e-mail at runnersofthebay@gmail.com.⁣ ⁣ This week’s episode with PK Karr is brought to you by:⁣ EverAthlete, the online strength and mobility training community for outdoor enthusiasts! Visit www.everathlete.fit/ and use code ROTB50 to get 50% off your first month!⁣ UCAN. Visit ucan.co/discount/rotb/ for 15% off!⁣ ⁣ Music is California by The Spectacular Fantastic.⁣ ⁣ Mixing and editing by Brian Walters at Singletrack Sound.⁣ .⁣ .⁣ .⁣

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This week we’re kicking off a mini series featuring Western States runners, starting with Eric King. Eric is from Redwood City and got into Western States after 6 years of lottery tickets. Eric shares how he went from being indifferent about running as a kid to being pulled into the local trail running scene in 2013 and now having a goal to run in all 50 states. We talk honestly about the challenges of running solo, lulls in motivation during the pandemic, and what he is most excited about at Western States!

Some highlights from our conversation:

🔂 The benefits of having short term memory when it comes to routes and races

🏞 How he got pulled into the local trail running scene in 2013

🎟 6 years of Western States lottery tickets!

💪 The challenge of motivating yourself to do solo long runs

🫀 How a heart issues in 2017 fueled his fire to race

🎉 Experimenting with different workouts during the pandemic when running motivation was low

🔚 Putting the endure in endurance

🧠 Mental tricks to get through hard points in an ultra

🚘 The one thing he’ll be thinking about when things get hard at Western States

You can follow Eric’s training on Strava

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This week we’re back with David Lam (episode #59) to talk about his race at the American River 50 Miler which leads us to a larger conversation about meditation, food, community, and AAPI representation.

Some highlights from our conversation:

🥵 Combatting heat and severe cramps

🙌 How the volunteers and veteran racers kept him from dropping out

🧘🏻 His meditation practice

🍬 A fun idea for a novelty mile

😥 Working through feelings of embarrassment after a disappointing race

♣️ His time as a professional poker player

🍔 Starting a burger restaurant with some friends in Vietnam

🃏 How poker taught him to have a short memory for losses

Intersectionality and understanding who he is within a larger community

🌉 His top 5 favorite restaurants in SF!

You can find David on Instagram @davidtlam and follow his training on Strava

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This week we’re talking to Olivia Amber, a nordic skier turned trail running pro and strategic researcher at Uber. Olivia shares her journey from being an All-American nordric ski racer in college to finding her running crew and eventually joining Salomon’s trail running team. We chat about the Broken Arrow Sky Race, how she got the Ninja Loop CR on a workout based purely on effort, and her plans for this year’s racing season!

Some highlights from our conversation:

👩‍👧Early running memories with her mom

🎿Ski racing with Corinne Malcolm as a kid

😜Why she didn’t take racing too seriously initially

💫The difference between being serious and being focused

⛷The hard decision not to pursue skiing professionally

💯Taking a leap when you sense that you aren’t 100% excited about a life choice

🔁The pipeline between nordic skiing and trail running

🏃🏻‍♀️How she found her running crew

👑The Ninja Loop CR!

🙌Savoring the runs when it’s all there

🌼Why getting faster and slower are just learning opportunities

You can find Olivia on Instagram @osamber and follow her training on Strava

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This week we’re talking to David Lam, a marketer for SFRC, runner, and self-proclaimed run gear nerd. We talk about how Dean Karnazes’s book inspired him to start running in 2017 and finding his people in the SF running community. David has an amazing perspective on never taking yourself too seriously and embracing race blow ups and “hoping to fail”. At the time of this interview David was putting the final touches on his training for the American River 50 Miler!

Some highlights from our conversation:

🐕 His awesome dog, Bob!

🖥 The power and limitations of digital communities and why in-person races matter

🤝 Feeling like “these are my people” when he runs in SF and in the Marin trails

🧨 Why he loves blowing up on races and you have to hope to fail

🎽 Not being defined by any race

📍 The privilege of seeing where your edge is

🙅 Remove “I’m too slow to run with you” from your vocabulary

💥 Building a support crew around your training goals

⛰ Training for his first 50 miler!

🙌 Building a relationship with his coach Matt Daniels

🍔 We nerd out on shoes and burgers

You can find David on Instagram @davidtlam and follow his training on Strava

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This week we’re back with Deanna Kwong to talk about her experience as a proud member of the AAPI community, her work on representation and advocacy, and how current events have brought light to issues that have always been present but were being ignored by the non-AAPI community.

Some highlights from our conversation:

🚩How the pandemic forced her identity as an asian woman to the forefront

🔺Finding and facilitating safe spaces to be open about talking about her identity and experience

📌How she’s identified new support networks

📍Seeing situations things through different lenses

🎈How our history, like the Page Act of 1875, continue to shape us

❤️ Her thoughts on the stop AAPI hate movement

🚨The importance of listening as a key component of allyship

🌈 The “Invisible Minority” and model minority problem

🔺Feeling like a perpetual foreigner

📌The importance of diversify your feed and seeking out stories that challenge your experience

🎈Why it’s a privilege to stay out of the conversation

🚩How to normalize discussions about discussions about race

❤️Why runners are an ideal community to embrace tackling uncomfortable topics

🚨Representation in sports

🌏How the world defines us versus how we define ourselves

🚩The emotional tax of being a minority

💥The power of finding points of commonality

You can find Deanna on Instagram @myfavoritemoment38 and follow her training onStrava

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This week we’re talking to Deanna Kwong, a corporate lawyer, road and trail runner, mother, and advocate. We talk about discovering her talent and passion for running and overcoming imposter syndrome to find her place in the running community. She shares how she balances the desire for spontaneity and unstructured training with chasing big goals on the roads and trails.

Some highlights from our conversation:

⏱ How the high school mile revealed her talent for running

🏃🏽‍♀️ Imposter syndrome hindered her ability at track and field

🙌🏼 Why running has always been a place where she’s find community

✨ Signing up for her first half marathon on a whim

🔂 Finding her first running group and creating consistency around running

💎 Seeing easy running days as a luxury

🦄 Racing Boston to Big Sur and Boston to Canyons!

⚖️ Balancing structured training with spontaneity

🎽Dealing with disappointing races

🧐 Figuring out what works specifically for you

👩‍💻 How trail ultras have help her professionally

🌦 Being prepared but being agile and adaptive

🥑 Her love for avocados and running!

💪🏼 Focusing on longevity and durability in running

You can find Deanna on Instagram @myfavoritemoment38 and follow her training on Strava

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This week we’re talking to Tantek Çelik, a computer scientist, trailer runner, and yogi among many other things. We talk about the philosophy of taking care of your future self and playing around with the perception of time before diving into Tantek’s journey from an asthmatic child to ultra trail runner. It was Bay to Breakers and the November Project that pulled Tantek into the world of running. That community led him to SFRC and the confidence to train for his first 50k and 50 miler. Tantek describes the falls he’s taken and how the hard days are big deposits in the grit bank.

Some highlights from our conversation:

🧽Procrasta-cleaning

🔮Taking care of your future self

🧘🏻‍♂️How yoga brought him to meditation

🕰Playing around with perceptions of time

📋Terrible memories of the physical fitness tests from grade school

💫The power of tackling fears and practicing falling

⛰Taking big falls while running down Mt. Tam

👫Running his first race with his mom and dad at Bay to Breakers

🙌Finding community and training partners to train for his first 50k and 50 milers

🏦Making deposits in your grit bank

You can find Tantek on Instagram @tantek, on twitter @t, and follow his training on Strava

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This week we’re talking to Amy Diallo, an infectious disease scientist at UCSF who has been working tirelessly on COVID-19 this past year. We talk about the unseen stress of being one degree removed from the front lines and how she handles the pressure of a demanding job with her big ambitions as a runner. You may recognize Amy from Tracksmith’s incredible photography (Emily Maye we love you!). In the episode we talk about her work in science, working with Tracksmith, running with West Valley Track Club, her love for middle distance racing, and how she got her start as a runner.

Some highlights from our conversation:

🌪 Adjusting to the pace of work and the focus of work as a scientist in the post-pandemic world

👩🏾‍🔬 The unseen sources of stress being a scientist during a pandemic

🔬How she got started as a scientists and what attracted her to infectious disease

🚨 Why her first half marathon was a “disaster”

🎽How she got started running track and XC with a running group in Paris

🇫🇷 French nationals as a goal that inspired her to take running more seriously

🏃🏾‍♀️Finding her run community when she moved to SF

👟 Running XC and track with West Valley Track Club

🗣 The differences between running culture in Paris and SF

🤩 The behind the scenes of Tracksmith photoshoots

🙏 The one item of clothing she wishes Tracksmith would bring back

🥳 What she’s excited about this year

🌎 Her ideas on a post-COVID world

You can find Amy on Instagram @dreaming_amy and follow her training on Strava

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Abbie Attwood returns to answer all of your questions about nutrition, body image, properly fueling for performance, RED-S, and eating disorders. This is an amazing episode full of actionable insights, helpful ways to think about performance and nutrition, and vulnerable oversharing from Abbie, Brigitte, and Mimi! If you missed Abbie’s first episode where she shares her amazing story, check out episode 47.

In this episode we tackle:

🥖 Why is it so hard for athletes to fuel appropriately?

🤔 Why do we often discredit how much energy we expend?

💜 How to begin to improve body image?

🌧 The difference between disordered eating and an eating disorder

🥞 If I ate a large meal before a run, do you still need recovery fuel after?

🏃🏻‍♀️Thoughts on fasted runs? Benefits? When to do them if at all?

🦴 How does RED-S happen? How to heal from it?

⌚️ What can’t smart watches tell us about our health?

⚡️ What counts as intense exercise?

🗣 How to talk to the negative voices in your head

🩸 Exercising while on your period

🛑 Why we need to stop “what i eat in a day” content

🙈 Why sometimes it is better not to look at race photos

🦄 Why there is no holy grail or one-size fits all diet when it comes to nutrition

Follow Abbie Attwood on Instagram @abbieattwoodwellness and on Twitter @abbie_attwood. Find out more about her and her coaching on her website and go here to and book a FREE 20 min consultation!

Photography by Ian Tuttle @iantuttle

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This week we’re talking to Lizzy Rountree, a member of the Impalas, 2020 Marathon Olympic Trials Qualifier, winner of the 2021 Arches 50K, and product designer. Lizzy says that her high school self would be shocked by her current identity as a runner (she impressively scored on her own team twice in school). She shares her journey from a non-athlete who smoked to the Olympic trials, and how running fuels her creativity as a product designer. We talk about the mental aspects of training and racing and how the sisterhood of the Impalas inspired her identity as a runner and fueled her progress as a runner by helping to block out doubts.

Some highlights from our conversation:

🎽 What it was like to race at the Texas Qualifier track meet

👤 Dealing with imposter syndrome at big races

🇨🇷 How a classmate helped her get started running while they were studying abroad in Costa Rica

🌄 How the pandemic and post-trials training drove her to trail running

🏆 Training for her first 50K and WINNING IT

💀 The “stomach grim reaper”

💡Translating her creativity into a career in product design

⚡️ Finding creative energy while running

🔗 How bonds with runner friends are different than bonds with other friends

🔂 How seeing the impalas doing their track workouts inspired her to join the team

👯‍♀️ The power of a tight knit community of women

🛑 Using teammates to help block out the doubts

You can find Lizzy on Instagram @lizzy.rountree and follow her training on Strava

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This week we’re talking to Kim Conley, two time Olympian, pro for New Balance, UC Davis alum, who is currently chasing down a spot on the 2021 Olympic team. Kim has secured qualifying times for the 2021 US Olympic trials in the 10K and 5K. We talk about her evolution from running XC in high school on a team with Sara Hall (then Bei) to graduating UC Davis feeling like she had unfinished business, to going all in on the 2012 track trials and having her breakthrough moment and becoming a New Balance sponsored athlete. Kim shares how it was challenging to adjust to “being an Olympian” and how her mindset shifted her second time at the Olympics in 2016. Kim talks about her current training, how she is coping with the uncertainty of the Olympics this year, track meets in the time of Covid, and her excitement about ultimately turning her attention to the marathon.

Some highlights from our conversation:

🚀 Her training and mindset with less than 100 days to the trials

🧠 Training through doubts and postponements around the Olympics

💗 Taking time last year to rekindle her love for running

🚚 Decision to move to Flagstaff fulltime

🏃🏼‍♀️Running in high school with Sara Hall

🔁 Being process oriented as opposed to outcome focused

👟Her history of shoes coming off in races

⏱ Flying under the radar in the 5K by gradually chipping away at her times

🤩 Signing with New Balance and PRing after the 2012 Olympic Trials

🎽 Adjusting to “being an Olympian”

🙌 Getting excited to get after the marathon after the Olympics

You can find Kim on Instagram @kfconley, Twitter @kimconley and her website is https://kimfconley.com/.

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This week we’re talking to Fiona O’Keeffe, newly minted professional runner for Puma, Stanford alum, and climate change researcher. Fiona had a whirlwind 2020, starting a Masters program at University of New Mexico, training but never competing because of the pandemic, then in December she ran the smashed the 10K Olympic trials qualifying standard of 32:25 with a time of 32:12.28 for the 11th-fastest time as an American collegian. In January 2021, she signed with Puma and moved to North Carolina to join their training group. Fiona shares how her high school and college teams shaped who she is today, how the transition to pro is going so far, and her goals for the future. Some highlights from our conversation: 😺 Who helped her make the decision to join Puma 🎽 Alistair Cragg’s vision for Puma’s North Carolina training group 🎓 The surreal experience of graduating college in her living room 🌤 Her passion for studying climate change 👖 Running the mile in elementary school in jeans and a t-shirt 🏃🏻‍♀️ How Bill Gregg (Kaitlin Goodman’s dad) shaped her as a runner in high school 🙌 Handling the pressure of running at a high level 🔁 The importance of pre-race routines 🔥 Why she subscribes to the Passion Paradox perspective of imbalance 👟The fun, underground vibe of  COVID track meets 🛣Mixing it up with some road races You can find Fiona on instagram @fiona_okeeffe and check out the new Puma’s distance crew @PUMAperformance You can find us on Instagram and Twitter @Runnersofthebay Check out our website www.runnersofthebay.com and send us an e-mail at runnersofthebay@gmail.com. This week’s episode with Fiona O’Keeffe is brought to you by: EverAthlete, the online strength and mobility training community for outdoor enthusiasts!  Visit www.everathlete.fit/ and use code ROTB50 to get 50% off your first month! Beam. Check out their hydration and CBD productions beamtlc.com use code ROTB for 15% off your order! Music is California by The Spectacular Fantastic. Editing by John (JB) Barley.

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This week we’re talking to Tony DiPasquale, a trail runner, photographer, software engineer, and a lead at November Project SF. Tony shares how the November Project sparked his interest in running and gave him a community that he tapped into when he moved from Boston to SF. It was that community that inspired him to run his first 50k and made him think about finding value in places other than work. Tony shares how a bad breakup led him to purchase his first camera and start to take photography more seriously. Our conversation about running and photography circles around themes of intentionality, purpose, and Tony’s philosophy of designing his life around giving back to others.

Some highlights from our conversation:

🥕 What he has learned by going pegan (vegan who eats pastries)

🚚 How November Project gave him a community when he moved to SF

🏃‍♀️ BTS stories of filming Corrine Malcolm on her FKT

💫 How trail running helps him tap into his inner child

🌄 Approaching life with the mindset of being an explorer

📸 The upside of a bad breakup

🚣‍♂️ Why he carried an oar with him on his first 50k

⚡️ How the pandemic pushed him to embrace digital community and sparked different sides of his creativity

🥖 How MH Bakery’s bread broke him of his keto diet

📱What he’s learned from taking time off from social media

🤝 How he’s trying to design his life around giving back

You can find Tony on instagram @tonywithasony, follow his training on Strava, his blog www.toniwithasony.com, and check out November Project SF

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This week we’re talking to Kevin Pool, an elite runner, race manager, course director and co-founder of Blistering Pace with his wife (and friend of the pod) Michelle La Sala. Kevin discovered his talent and passion for running in the 5th grade and a competitive high school cross country program pushed him to develop and dream big. After college, it was a lonely job with the park department and lots of solo running that inspired him to run his first marathon. From that first race, Kevin was drawn to the distance and the allure of chasing improvements and his best. Kevin shares the highs and lows of chasing the Olympic Trials Qualifying standard in the marathon -- the races that broke his heart and the ones the races that were so perfect they kept him going. Kevin shares how he’s giving back to local runners and how training partners and the community helped him achieve more than he ever dreamed.

Some highlights from our conversation:

🏃🏻‍♂️ How his high school cross country inspired him to step up as a runner

💫 How those dream races keep you going

💆🏻‍♂️ How to process the stress of a goal race

⚡️ Running his first marathon on 5K training

🏅 What inspired him to chase after the 2012 OTQ standard after not hitting the 2008 standard

🙌 The power of training partners and proximity to people who are chasing after similar goals

👀 Getting to mile 22 and feeling your goal time slip away

🧩 Figuring out the puzzle pieces of the marathon

🤝 How he’s giving back to local elite runners

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This week we’re talking to Bill Casher, a runner, father, scientist, and member of the Anti-racist Run Club (formerly known as SF Runners for Equality). Bill grew up playing sports but it wasn’t until later in life that he discovered his love for running. He ran his first marathon with his twin brother in 2012 and hasn’t stopped running since. Bill shares the origins of the Anti-Racist Run Club, what inspired him to join, and how powerful it is to share the group runs and conversations with his children. As a scientist who has been working on COVID treatments, we talk about what this past year has taught us all about the power of collaboration, determination, and speed when it comes to science, running, activism, and community.

Some highlights from our conversation:

✨ What sparked the name change from SF Runners for Equality to the Anti-Racist Run club

👨‍👦‍👦 How being a father shaped how he talks about racism

🏃🏿‍♂️ How running creates space for deep conversations

🌎 Why he doesn’t want to leave any of life’s experiences on the table

🤩 How having a twin brother gave him confidence in the marathon

⌚️ Why he never runs with a watch when he’s running with others

💫 Intentionality and being present

🗣 How he found his voice as a community organizer and leader

⚡️Impact as a way of life

🙌🏾 The parallels between activism and endurance sports

🔬 How COVID has shown us what’s possible when people collaborative and move quickly

👊🏿 Why representation matters

Follow the Anti-Racist Run Club on Instagram @antiracistrunclub. Follow Bill on Instagram @fcsfinest1.

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This week we’re talking to Abbie Attwood, an athlete, sports nutritionist, endurance coach, and nutritional therapist. Abbie grew up with parents who ran the Boston marathon and calls Joan Benoit Samuelson a family friend. It wasn’t until college that Abbie found running. At first it was a coping mechanism, then it was a passion, and then that passion consumed her. Today, Abbie is a coach and clinical nutritionist, which is informed by her own experience with low energy availability coupled with celiac disease, Guillain-Barre, and a tumor on her pituitary gland. In this episode we talk about Abbie’s evolving identity as an athlete, the desire for a sense of belonging, her approach to fueling her body (which occasionally includes cake for breakfast!), and creating a life that’s full and has plenty of sources of joy.

Some highlights from our conversation:

🍽 Not overthinking what you eat

⚖️ Balancing eating intuitively and intentionally

🤯 When you lose trust in your mind to tell you what your body needs

🗣 Why you should talk to your eating disorder, anxiety or depression

✨ How running helped her cope with panic attacks and anxiety in college

🏃‍♀️ Running Boston as her first marathon

🌪 How running took over her life in an unhealthy way

🎽 How a sense of belonging can feed negative behaviors

🌥 The inescapability of the effects of low energy availability

🥘 Why it took her a decade to realize that she had an eating disorder

⏱ Unfinished business in the 10k and 5k

💔 How to accept fragility and being competitive

🥳 Diversify your joy

Follow Abbie Attwood on Instagram @abbieattwoodwellness and on Twitter @abbie_attwood. Find out more about her and her coaching on her website and go here to and book a FREE 20 min consultation!

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This week we’re talking to Jeffrey Stern, a professional runner for Salomon, dog dad, coach, freelance writer, and marketing consultant. Jeffrey grew up in Marin and still thinks of the Bay Area as home even though he is now ripping it up on the trails and roads in Santa Barbara. Jeffrey spent 2020 consistently training and shaping himself into an ultra runner who is ready to have breakthrough races at some of the biggest races in the country this year. He recently smashed the unsupported FKT on the 42-mile Los Padres Traverse as a part of training for Black Canyon 100k. Jeffrey shares his mental and physical training trips, how he balances his life, and how rowdy, adventurous races like The Dipsea and Mount Marathon inspired him to pursue trail running professionally. Jeffrey’s passion is infectious. We dare you to listen to this episode and not smile! Some highlights from our conversation: 🏡 His tips for balancing everything while working from home 😴 The power of sleep in performance 🙌 Knowing yourself and not worrying about what works for other people ⌚️How lunch runs can make 24 hours feel so much longer 🧠 How to train mentally for breakthrough races 🏔 Why he chose the Los Padres Traverse for his recent FKT 💫 What he learned from his FKT that he’s going to apply to Black Canyon 🏃‍♂️ How The Dipsea race inspired him to think about trail running 🎽 Why crazy adventurous races like The Dipsea and Mount Marathon get him stoked 🌪 Becoming a better runner during 2020 by mixing things up and being consistent during periods of chaos ⚡️How 2020 might spark an increase in trail running 🚵‍♂️ The differences between cycling and the trail running community Follow Jeffrey Stern on Twitter and Instagram @uponward, his website where you can find out more about him and his coaching, his blog for Spring Energy, and his dogs’ instagram @leoandlunas_lab_life. You can find us on Instagram and Twitter @Runnersofthebay Check out our website www.runnersofthebay.com and send us an e-mail at runnersofthebay@gmail.com. This week’s episode with Jeffrey Stern is brought to you by: EverAthlete, the online strength and mobility training community for outdoor enthusiasts!  Visit evertathlete.fit and use code ROTB50 to get 50% off your first month! UCAN.  Go to ucan.co/discount/ROTB/ for 15% off your order! Music is California by The Spectacular Fantastic.

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This week we’re talking to Paddy O’Leary, a runner for The North Face, cancer researcher at UCSF, and the former co-lead of November Project SF. Paddy spent his childhood in Ireland growing up on a farm. His first athletic love was lacrosse, which he played at an international level before moving to SF and falling in love with running through the November Project. He shares how running helped him find his community in San Francisco and fall in love with all the city and the local trails and how that love transformed him into a professional athlete. Paddy shares what it was like returning to Ireland to chase the Wicklow Round FKT and how his Battle of the Bay Challenge and the Trial of Miles Chase the Throne challenge have kept him exploring, competitive, and connected during the pandemic. Plus we geek out on science and how this past year will shape the future of research and collaboration.

Some highlights from our conversation:

💫 What inspired him to create the Battle of the Bay challenge

👑 Getting to the final four of the Bay Area Chase the Throne

🌍 Racing on 5 continents in a single year

😬 Accidentally “losing” Corrine Malcolm while pacing her on her Tahoe Rim Trail FKT

🥳 How November Project SF gave him community and sparked his love of running

⚡️The story behind his Wicklow Round FKT (check out link to documentary below)

🌄 Learning to love and explore the trails in your own backyard

💨 Why wind is his least favorite running weather

🙌 How SFRC gave him the confidence to pursue running professionally

🏃‍♂️His love for cross country and why it is awesome ultra training

🔥 Running a 2:20 marathon on 50-mile ultra running training

🔬Why he doesn’t apply the scientific methodology that he uses as a cancer biologist in his approach to running

🔑 His key to fitting it all in

⏳ What helped him discover that he didn’t want to stop working and run full-time

💉 How the collaboration within the scientific community last year inspires him

Follow Paddy on Twitter and Instagram @poleary87, check out the Battle of the Bay Challenge, Chase the Throne, and Coming Home the documentary about Paddy’s Wicklow Round FKT.

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This week we’re talking to 𝗚𝗲𝗼𝗿𝗴𝗲 𝗥𝗲𝗵𝗺𝗲𝘁, a runner, special education teacher, and current president of the Road Runners Club of America. George has spent his life working to expand understanding, empathy, and inclusion in running and schools. He shares how running has made him a better teacher and what teaching has taught him about running. As the first Asian-American President of the RRCA, George shares what the job entails and how he sees running as a tool to make the world a better, more equitable and inclusive place. George shares how he went from running cross country in high school to doing Ironman triathlons and ultramarathons as an adult. ⁣

Some highlights from our conversation: ⁣

✨ Why Bay to Breakers was the race that made him fall in love with running⁣

👨🏽‍💼The responsibility he feels as a person of color to be the President of the RRCA⁣

👊🏿 Why representation matters⁣

👋 His goal to make sure that any runner who shows up to a running club feels welcome ⁣

🎿 How a confusion about “cross country” introduced him to running ⁣

👟Why runners shouldn’t feel like they have to graduate to the marathon ⁣

🚌 How riding a bus with Meb led to a major shoe donation for kids⁣

💍 His engagement story which involves the Escape From Alcatraz race⁣

🎽 When he thinks races will come back ⁣

⏱ How his goals have shifted as he’s gotten older⁣

💪 Ironman lead him to ultramarathons⁣

🏃‍♂️How to start your own running club⁣

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This week we’re talking to Kaitlin Goodman, elite runner, public health professional, coach, wife, dog mom, and former member of the Peninsula Distance Club! Kaitlin made a difficult and public decision not to race during the pandemic after the Olympic Marathon Trials in February. She shares the details of how she came to that choice, how an injury inspired her to work towards making roads safer for cyclists and runners, her recent announcement that she is leaving the BAA after running for them for the last two years, and her journey with running and coaching joyfully!

Some highlights from our conversation:

🥇 How watching the 2008 track trials inspired her to think about going professional after college

😁 How her father inspired her philosophy for running and coaching joyfully

🤬 Channeling her anger at a distracted driver into her nonprofit, Safe On The Road

🐕 How her dog Moose helped her recover from an injury

💪 How endurance running and “covid training” helps all of us be better athletes

🚦 Why making streets safer for runners and cyclists is an equality and public health issue

⏳ How pursuing many passions helps her focus and be efficient and fulfilled

🏃‍♀️ How runners like Lauren Fleshman inspired her approach to a running and life outside of running

⛰ How FKTs, record attempts, and virtual racing have inspired her to step outside of her own running comfort zone and try new things

Follow Kaitlin on Twitter and Instagram @runnerkg, learn more about her coaching at Running Joyfully, and get involved with Safe on the Road.

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This week we’re talking to Ryan Hall, coach, podcaster, husband, father, weightlifter, Stanford Alum, American Record holder for the Half-Marathon, and unofficial American record for the marathon! We talked to Ryan 10 days after he coached his wife, Sara Hall to the second fastest marathon run by an American woman. We talk about his experience watching The Marathon Project (and his slight FOMO) and his current passion for weightlifting, coaching, and fatherhood, then we dig into a deep conversation about mental health, performance, and how Ryan grappled with his own body image issues and comparison.

Some highlights from our conversation:

🚲 The difference between coaching a marathon and racing a marathon

😰 The sense of responsibility he feels as a coach

💑 Why Sara has fired (and rehired) him as a coach hundreds of time

🧩 How his identity outside of running helped him navigate retirement from running

🏋️‍♂️ Why he hated lifting when he was running

🙌 Realizing that his journey as a runner was more about sharing what he learned with other people

👟 How his thoughts have evolved on super shoes

🔬 Physical breakthroughs versus technological breakthroughs

⏳ The evolution of his coaching philosophy

🔑 How the pieces of our lives outside of running are often the keys to performance gains

🏃‍♂️ His own struggles with body image, comparison, and competition

❄️ How he finally said his proper good-bye to the marathon after retirement

Follow Ryan on Twitter and Instagram @ryanhall3, learn more about his coaching at Run Free Training, and check out his podcast is Run Free. Follow @runfree_training on Instagram.

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Matt Forsman returns to the podcast to share all the highs and lows from his running story! Matt’s run journey started in high school when started running after getting frustrated with soccer and an amazing coach inspired him to believe in his own potential. He’s raced everything from the track to 50-milers, coached runners for over a decade, and founded Sasquatch Racing. Matt is one of the most creative race directors out there who likes to create events that encourage us all to find as much fun in the sport as possible.

Some highlights from our conversation:

  • His pre-race ritual
  • How a coach in high school predicted his career as a marathoner
  • Learning to advocate for yourself when you don’t mess with a coach
  • The power of running’s meritocracy
  • His personal renaissance
  • The story of breaking his hip during Bay to Breakers
  • Being injury prone and still chasing big goals in the marathon
  • Tapping into the dark side when races get hard
  • Why the race that broke his heart is also one that he’s most proud of

Check out Matt’s latest race adventure, The Great Sasquatch Road Trip, which launches on 1/11/21!

Follow Matt on Facebook and Twitter @262Matt on Instagram @sasquatchracing, and find his coaching at San Francisco Running Club and his races at Sasquatch Racing.

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This week’s episode is with Peninsula Distance Club’s Mara Olson. Mara was putting the finishing touches on her training for the The Marathon Project when we recorded this episode. Mara’s debut marathon was Grandma’s Marathon in 2019 during her second where she qualified for the marathon trials! The Olympic Trials was her second marathon and The Marathon Project will be her third. In this episode we talk about balancing school, work, and running, the role running plays in her overall identity, and pushing herself during the pandemic.

Some highlights from our conversation:

  • The decision to delay Medical School to give pro running a go
  • Chasing the track Olympic Trials in 2016
  • Running an OTQ in her marathon debut in 2019!
  • Why she decided to pursue a career in medicine
  • Moving to SF from Boulder and finding a new training group
  • Starting a new job during a pandemic
  • Her training and pre-race thoughts on The Marathon Project
  • Period talk!

Follow Mara on Instagram @mara.olson, Twitter @Mara0lson, and follow her training on Strava.

Mentioned in episode:

  • Follow period. on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/p.eriod.period/

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This week’s episode is with professional trail runner, coach, and self proclaimed “science nerd” Corrine Malcolm. Corrine is a professional trail runner who is sponsored by Adidas. She started her athletic career as a skier and then was recruited to become a biathlete! Her success in biathlon led her to the Olympic Training Center in Lake Placid, but just before the 2014 Olympics everything came crashing down. Her love of science, good friends, and running helped her define who she was as a person and athlete after “retiring” from biathlon at 24. Corrine shares her journey with her athletic identity, her recent FKT on the 171-mile Tahoe Rim Trail, and being her own guinea pig when it comes to research and exercise science.

Some highlights from our conversation:

  • How her competitive nature makes it hard to this day to play board games
  • What is emotionally sustainable training versus physically sustainable
  • How the pandemic is a gift to anyone who has struggled with overtraining
  • How Krissy Moehl and Magda Boulet inspired her Tahoe Rim Trail FKT
  • Running while hallucinating
  • What it’s like to set an FKT at 2am with a toilet paper finish line
  • Her love of science and being her own guinea pig

Follow Corinne on Instagram and Twitter @corrinemalcolm, follow her training on Strava, check out her blog, and read her writing on iRunFar.

Links mentioned in episode:

  • Video of Magda’s FKT attempt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlAhHZhkHQk
  • Video from Corrine’s FKT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jifGHinY5q4

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In this Taylor Swift podcast, 4 podcasters and 1 influencer (and soon-to-be podcaster, Jordan, don’t kill me), come together to properly process their feelings about the surprise release of Taylor’s 9th studio album, evermore.

Joining Mimi and Brigitte today are:

  • Lindsey Hein, founder of SandyBoy Productions and host of I’ll Have Another, Why is Everyone Yelling, and The Illuminate Podcast
  • Jonathan Levitt, host of For The Long Run
  • Jordan Kutzer, the man behind Boyfriends of Oiselle and BFF of The Runners of The Bay Podcast

On this glorious occasion of Taylor Swift’s 31st (13 backwards) birthday, we discuss:

  • What we love about Taylor so much
  • The first song/genre that got us hooked
  • Our favorite Taylor eras
  • Taylor Swift's Monologue song on Saturday Night Live in 2013
  • Ms. Americana and the intimate view we get into Taylor’s life
  • Taylor’s decision to publicly enter the political conversation
  • Our top 5 Taylor Swift songs
  • The Taylor Swift song that is always on our running playlist

Thank you to Lindsey, Jonathan, and Jordan for joining this conversation and spending over an hour with us fawning over Taylor!

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Lindsey @lindseyhein626,

Jonathan @jwlevitt

Jordan @jordankutzer @boyfriendsofoiselle

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Mimi @mimsers84

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This week’s episode is with runner, coach, and art teacher Tania Fischer. Tania is a lifelong runner who qualified for the olympic trials in the 5000m in 1996, and has multiple Masters titles including the Masters win at Bay to Breakers in 2007, 2008 and 2011. She has coached high school track for over 23 years and started The Janes, an all women racing team in 2002. Tania has made her mark on the running community and has helped hundreds of runners fall in love with the sport and fulfill their potential. We discuss her routine, coaching philosophy, creativity, and what keeps her going through the pandemic.

Some highlights from our conversation:

  • How the running community has evolved
  • Being a woman in a male dominated sport
  • How she got her start coaching high school track and XC
  • Her role as Cami Chapus’s godmother and “rock” throughout her running career
  • How she adapts her coaching style to maximize an athlete’s potential
  • Why she pushed Nike to make better running clothes for women
  • How she teaches ceramics to her student while classes are remote
  • The origin story of The Janes

Follow The Janes on Instagram @thejanesracing and learn more about them on the website https://www.thejanes.net/about/

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This week’s episode is with runner, SoulCycle instructor, and tech marketer Andrew Stinger. Just after high school, Andrew was diagnosed with Guillain-Barre syndrome, a rare and incurable disorder that robbed him of his career in track and field but opened new doors in his relationship with movement and fitness. Andrew shares how his diagnosis shifted the story he told about himself and made him into someone that chooses hope over fear and lives life with his heart full.

Some highlights from our conversation:

  • How his relationship with running has evolved
  • How community and accountabili-buddies help him to show up even on the days when anxiety and exhaustion want to take over
  • Going from being reluctantly dragged to a SoulCycle class to auditioning to become an instructor
  • What it was like working full-time as a SoulCycle instructor and what made him choose to go back to product marketing
  • Why we should all see a therapist
  • Speedo selfies!
  • The lifestyle that is being a Survivor SuperFan
  • The origin story of his SoulCycle mantra

Follow Andrew on Instagram and Twitter @andrewstinger and book a SoulCycle class with him! https://www.soul-cycle.com/instructors/10327/andrew/

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This week’s episode is with talented runner, brand manager, and graphic designer Phoebe Kranefuss. We are OBSESSED with her designs. Seriously, check out her Instagram! Phoebe shares her journey from being an all-around athlete in high school to a collegiate runner to a member of the Impala Racing Team. Phoebe grew up in Marin and currently lives in San Francisco where she works as an advertising brand manager. Some highlights from our conversation:

What role running plays in her overall identity

Her relationship with running and getting outside in the middle of a pandemic

How working as a brand manager with other graphic designers inspires her own work

Joining the Impalas (just before the pandemic) in pursuit of adult female friendships

How the Impalas are keeping their tight-knit community thriving without races and large group practices

Her experience with an eating disorder and the things that helped her the most while recovering

Follow Phoebe on on Instagram @byph0ebe, check out her training on Strava, and read her writing on her website phoebekranefuss.com/ You can find us on Instagram and Twitter @Runnersofthebay Check out our website www.runnersofthebay.com and send us an e-mail at runnersofthebay@gmail.com. This week’s episode with Chris and Chipper is brought to you by UCAN. Visit ucan.co/discount/ROTB/ for 15% off your order! Music is California by The Spectacular Fantastic.

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This week’s episode is our first crossover episode with the incredible fun and talented Chris Douglas and Chipper Nicodemus of the Löw Tide Böyz, a podcast devoted to the sport of Swimrun. Both Chris and Chipper have been instrumental in helping us get our podcast off the ground and help improve our sound and editing. In this episode we dive into creating community and connection through podcasting and they tell us all about the new-ish sport of Swimrun. If you have ever been out on a run and come to a body of water and thought, maybe I should swim to the next cove and then run some more, this episode and Swimrun is for you!

Some highlights from our conversation:

  • What makes them such good teammates
  • Their theories on why the sport is gaining popularity around the world
  • How fatherhood changed the way they train and race
  • Why people sometimes mistake them for being in special ops
  • The origin story of their podcast and how it has helped them create and inclusive community in Swimrun
  • What it’s like racing when you are tethered to your teammate
  • The art of niche meme content creation

Follow Löw Tide Böyz on Instagram @thelowtideboyz and listen to their podcast on Apple or Spotify.

Check out this great Swimrun video: ÖTILLÖ Swimrun Cannes 2019 - The Force of Nature

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This week’s episode is with Dr. Matt Smith. Matt is a chiropractor, strength coach, and the founder of Everathlete. Matt is an athlete who is passionate about strength training, functional movement, and breathing to ensure that every athlete from the pros to the first-timers is mentally and physically ready to tackle whatever adventure is on their bucket list. In this episode we get into the nitty gritty of strength training, how COVID changed his dream job, and what it means to be “adventure ready”.

Some highlights from our conversation:

  • How COVID forced him to pivoted after opening the training facility of his dreams
  • How Everathlete is both a creative and athletic outlet
  • Why it is important to enjoy being a novice
  • Why we should end our runs with a couple mins of breathing
  • How strength training has evolved in the endurance athlete community
  • Building community in the time of COVID and after
  • Why online strength training videos and athletic communities are here to stay
  • And he urges Mimi to open a hybrid running store/pizza place (Run Hard/Pizza Harder)--- um, yes please!!

Follow Matt on Instagram @everathlete and check out Everathlete.

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Today’s episode is with designer and photographer, Ryan McSwain. Ryan is based in Oakland, CA and is the designer of the Runners of The Bay logo! We were impressed by Ryan’s portfolio and his ability to convey the message of a brand through his simple and clean lines. Ryan took our vision for the Runners of The Bay logo and created a design that perfectly conveys the essence of our show. We loved working with Ryan and highly recommend him for any design work!

Some highlights from our conversation:

  • Ryan’s design aesthetic
  • How is hometown influences his photography
  • His process for designing for different types of clients
  • How place factors into his design process
  • How sometimes the best designs come when you don’t force it
  • His transition from architecture to graphic design and photography
  • How getting outside helps his process

Follow Ryan on Instagram @ryan_mcswain.

Check out his website Ryan McSwain Design.

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This week’s episode is with Toby Silver. Toby is a runner from San Francisco who recently completed his Fifty Shades of Pavement project where he ran every street in San Francisco. When he isn’t running and coaching, Toby is busy working at Taft Street Winery in Sebastopol as their Director of Community. Toby is someone who is passionate about creating community in all aspects of his life.

Some highlights from our conversation:

  • How turning 50 inspired his 50 Shades of Pavement project
  • How running new roads helped him better understand and feel more connected to San Francisco
  • Becoming a coach after racing his first marathon
  • Wine and running!
  • How AIDS activism introduced him to the running community
  • His favorite places to run in San Francisco
  • The story of how he ending his project running around Alcatraz
  • How the running during the pandemic has changed since March

Follow Toby on Instagram @fifty_shades_of_pavement and follow his training on Strava.

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This week’s episode is with Tom Tayeri. Tom is a marathoner, Ophthalmologist, and co-founder of the Fiat Lux Foundation, which works to prevent and reverse blindness in the developing world by building sustainable and locally controlled eye treatment centers. Tom is a passionate runner who keeps getting faster with age. In 2019 he ran a blazing 2:42 at the Chicago Marathon, easily winning his age group and snagging a 2+ minute PR! Tom is a member of the Peninsula Distance Club.

Some highlights from our conversation:

  • How he became a runner during medical school
  • How finding a running community led to a running breakthrough
  • His goal to win his age group at the Abbott World Marathon Majors World Championships
  • How he balances work, philanthropy, family and running at a high level
  • Running 100+ mile weeks while working full-time as an Ophthalmologist
  • The power of training partners who are faster than you
  • His secret hydration, anti-cramp trick
  • His work building hospitals in Africa and the barriers to healthcare access, even in the United States

Follow Tom on Twitter @thomastayeri, on Instagram @ttayeri, and follow his training on Strava.

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This week’s episode is with Nick Dawson. Nick is a leader in health care human centered design. Nick has worked with organizations like Stanford Medicine X and Kaiser Permanente to embed human centered design techniques and philosophies into the health care delivery system. He is also an avid runner and outdoorsman with a huge passion for skiing. Nick and his fiance recently said goodbye to the Bay Area (for now) to explore and find inspiration in the Montana wilderness.

Some highlights from our conversation:

  • How running helps us tap into our state of flow and “negative space” that allows for the best design work to happen
  • How human centered design in health care went from being a carve-out, niche thing to something that is now considered essential to any health care organization
  • The nuances between US health care and overall attitudes towards health vs. that of other countries
  • The challenges of tying health insurance to employment, especially for professional athletes
  • What it would mean to become a “Healthist”
  • Finding community in unexpected places and how to design for that
  • The power of organizations who take the time to clearly articulate their values and stand behind them

Follow Nick on Twitter @nickdawson, on Instagram @nickpdawson, and follow his training on Strava.

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This week’s episode is with Rebecca Mehra. Rebecca is a professional runner for Oiselle and a member of the Bend-based pro team, Little Wing, coached by Lauren Fleshman.  Rebecca grew up in Palos Verdes before making her way to the Bay Area to attend Stanford. After college, she has found a way to balance professional running with working on projects that fuel her passions outside of running. This season she raced personal bests in the 800 and 1000.  In 2019, Rebecca made the 800m final at the US Track and Field Championships and placed 3rd in the 5th Avenue Mile. Some highlights from our conversation:

Working as a campaign manager during an unconventional campaign season.

Why we should all care more about local elections and elected officials

Getting into running by being in Junior Guards in High School

Getting an invite to race the 5th Avenue Mile at an airport

Balancing working and running professionally

Choosing to race with a BLM sticker on her kit

Her favorite and least favorite workout

The name she has picked out for her yet-to-be-adopted cat

Follow Rebecca on Instagram @rebecca_mehra, on Twitter @rebecca_mehra, and follow her training on Strava. You can find us on Instagram and Twitter @Runnersofthebay Check out our website www.runnersofthebay.com and send us an e-mail at runnersofthebay@gmail.com. This week’s episode with Rebecca Mehra is brought to you by UCAN. Visit ucan.co/discount/ROTB/ for 15% off your order! Music is California by The Spectacular Fantastic.

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This week’s episode is with Cole Manley. Cole is a Masters and PhD student at UC Davis studying the history of social movements for racial and economic justice in the United States. Inspired by the Black Lives Matter movement, Cole created the Marathon to Justice project, a blog designed to help build communities of politically-active and historically-conscious runners.

Cole was born in SF and spent much of his childhood in Palo Alto before moving to the East Coast for High School. He made his way back to the Bay as an undergraduate at Stanford. Cole’s father, John Manley, was a beloved Stanford Professor and Political Scientist, who inspired Cole’s pursuits in social and economic justice.

Some highlights from our conversation:

  • His self-supported marathon around Stanford campus in honor of Marathon to Justice and his father, John Manley
  • How his father’s activism inspired him
  • The inspiration behind and purpose of his Marathon to Justice Project
  • How studying the history of protests helps him understand our current racial protests
  • How the mindset of running relates to social justice
  • Reckoning with running’s history, culture, and accessibility
  • His unexpected time living in Iraq

Follow Cole’s training on Strava and his Marathon to Justice project here

Find Cole on Instagram @colesmanley

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It’s spooky season and Matt Forsman, better known as Marathon Matt, has the perfect virtual run tour planned! The Haunted Bay Area (virtual) Run Tour –– which may be the most creative virtual race we’ve ever heard of –– takes you on a tour of 15-20 of the most haunted places in the Bay Area over the course of 240 miles. For each segment you complete, you unlock the history of that location and a ghost story written by Matt. It’s a mashup of running, Halloween, Stranger Things, and ghost stories.

Matt is the head coach of Run Club and founder of Sasquatch Racing.

Some highlights from our conversation:

  • The storytelling behind the Haunted Bay Area Run Tour
  • Explains why we should all fear the NUR
  • All the legendary haunted places in the Bay Area
  • Matt’s love for creativity and creating community
  • How the local running community has evolved over the last 15 years
  • What made Matt quit his corporate job to focus on running and coaching

Sign up for the Haunted Bay Area (virtual) Run Tour, follow Matt on Facebook, and join his Run Club (which has virtual and pandemic-friendly group training!).

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This week’s episode is with legendary run coach Greg McMillan. Greg is the head coach of McMillan Running and has coached all types of runners from Olympians to enthusiastic amateurs. Greg’s eponymous McMillan Running Calculator has been used by anyone who has ever asked the internet how fast they can run. Greg found running at an early age, cultivating his talent at the urging of cross country and basketball coaches, alike. In high school he knew that the science of running and exercise physiology would help him unlock his full potential as a runner.

Some highlights from our conversation:

  • Growing up on a farm and developing a passion for running on the fields in rural Tennessee
  • Why he was always fascinated in the psychological component of running
  • The story behind the famous McMillan Running Calculator
  • How knowing your weaknesses can make it easier to never have a “bad” workout
  • What he has learned from a career of training olympians and driven amateurs
  • How to prepare for and rehearse suffering by harnessing the power of your mind
  • Why we should all be smiling more when we run!

Follow Greg on Instagram @mcmillanrunning and Twitter @GregMcMillan, and check out his website: https://www.mcmillanrunning.com/

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This week’s episode is with Luke Wicker. Luke is a visual designer and copywriter who grew up across the pond in England. He developed a love for running after college and joined London’s Run Dem Crew. He quickly got pulled into running’s energetic culture and fell in love with training and racing. Running became a way to fuel his creativity and feel connected to his environment. Luke moved to San Francisco five years ago and joined the SWAP running team, coached by David Roche. Luke can be found on the trails and roads all over the Bay Area.

Some highlights from our conversation:

  • How he traded visits to the pub to runs as his preferred way to unwind after work
  • How London’s Run Dem Crew formed his identity as a runner
  • How running helps him create mental negative space that spurs his creativity
  • The value of partnerships in work and running
  • Running 100-mile week during the pandemic
  • How running culture is changing and what he sees for the future
  • Dealing with an uncertain health issue and delays in an FKT attempt and training plans
  • Traveling to races and using running as a tool to see new places

Follow Luke on Instagram and Twitter @lukewicker, and follow his training on Strava.

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This week’s episode is with two thirds of the founding team of the Running for Office Challenge. Michelle LaSala and Hillary Fujii join us to discuss the idea behind the Running for Office Challenge, how it works, and why everyone should register!

Some highlights from our conversation:

  • How race cancellations sparked a creative approach to creating community
  • Why the running community is connected to the election
  • How they, along with their third team member, Christy Slye, selected America Votes to the their cause to support
  • How the simple act of voting has become so politicized
  • Which of the RFOC challenges they most excited about
  • How this challenge is helping them cope with anxiety about the election
  • How we can all do things that matter when we still have to be working remotely
  • The advantages to virtual events (yes, there are some!)
  • What the future of racing will look like
  • How running impacts their mental health
  • Why the pandemic has made them more vocal about politics

Follow Running for Office on Instagram @runningforofficechallenge and on Twitter @exercisetovote and register here.

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This week’s episode is with Cami Chapus. Cami is a native of Los Angeles, where she attended the same high school as Mimi (Go Wolverines)! Cami’s passion for running started when her mom encouraged her to join the XC team as a Freshman in High School. Byy the time she was recruited by Stanford she had competed internationally and had earned state and national titles in Track and XC. In college, Cami battled injuries and burn out, so she directed her energy and passion towards supporting her team and exploring other passions. Cami now lives in Telluride Colorado and is pursuing a career in Occupational Therapy, working with adaptive athletes.

Some highlights from our conversation:

  • What it was like stand-out high school athlete, winning multiple state and national titles
  • How playing soccer all through High School made her a better runner
  • Dealing with injuries and burn out as a collegiate athlete
  • How coming back to running after mental pain can just as difficult as coming back after physical pain
  • Her experience working with the Special Olympics and how a chance meeting at a track in Hawaii planted the seed for her future career path
  • How occupational therapy and working with adaptive athletes has shifted her perspective on her identity as an athlete
  • Finding the joy in running again by transitioning to the trails
  • What advice she would give younger athletes

Follow Cami on Instagram @camichapus.

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A native of Georgia (born in Germany!), Angelica Swaim found her way to the Bay Area after spending seven years in the Navy falling in love with the sport of running while training on ships and racing on land. Angelica is a member of the Oiselle Volée and now runs everything from 5ks to 50ks! In this episode, we discuss Angelica’s identity as a runner both when she was in the Navy and now in the Medical Device industry, why she makes her way to the front of the start-line at trail races, and how she tackles new distances and why she prefers the longer distances.  We also talk about what it’s like to often be the only Black female runner at trail races and why representation is so important. Some highlights from our conversation:

  • Her experience in the Navy and running on ships out at sea

  • Finding community in the Oiselle Volée

  • Winning Skyline to the Sea 50k last year

  • How cancelled races has shifted her training

  • How she sees her role as a Black female runner

  • How running different distances can help reframe your running goals

  • How she inspires her co-workers (and her husband) by getting out the door to run each day

Follow Angelica Swaim on Twitter and Instagram @jellyruns You can find us on Instagram and Twitter @Runnersofthebay Check out our website www.runnersofthebay.com and send us an e-mail at runnersofthebay@gmail.com. This week’s episode with Angelica Swaim is brought to you by UCAN. Visit ucan.co/discount/ROTB/ for 15% off your order! Music is California by The Spectacular Fantastic.

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Our first returning guest, Howard Ekundayo, is back to talk about his experience being a black runner and engineer. If you missed Howard’s first episode, it’s episode 13 and we talk about his journey to discovering running after college and how he progressed to a sub-3 hour marathoner.

In this episode we go much deeper on the issues related to diversity, inclusion and mental health. Some highlights from our conversation:

  • Being the only Black man on the start-line of smaller marathons
  • Talking to friends about race during runs
  • How running is a useful tool to improve his mental health
  • His experience with the “Black tax”
  • The pressure that comes with being Black in Silicon Valley
  • How exhausting it is to think about racism while racing
  • Feeling lonely in the vastly white running community

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This week’s episode with Caitlin Chrisman is brought to you by UCAN. Visit ucan.co/discount/ROTB/ for 15% off your order! Caitlin Chrisman started running in middle school and ran at Wake Forest where she thrived in cross country and loved the team aspect of the sport. After graduation, she moved to North Carolina and helped start the Charlotte Running Club which inspired her to chase after the marathon Olympic Trials in 2012. In this episode, we discuss Caitlin’s journey from high school XC to marathon OTQ, creating running communities to fuel her post-collegiate career, and why she never wants anyone to have to run alone. Some highlights from our conversation:

How her dad helped her get recruited for running in college

Finding her first post-collegiate running partner on Craigslist

Starting her first run club in Charlotte and building community

Going from being a shy introvert to being a leader in every community that she runs in

How running with a group of people transformed her post-collegiate running and fueled her to marathon OTQs

Meeting new friends at the start-line of races

Documenting her running journey through her blog https://seeredrun.com/blog

How lifting helps her manage injuries and overcome nagging plantar fasciitis

Being pregnant and thinking about being a runner and a mother!

Follow Cailtin Chrisman’s training on Strava and find her on Twitter @caitchris and on instagram @cait.chris You can find us on Instagram and Twitter @Runnersofthebay. Check out our website www.runnersofthebay.com and send us an e-mail at runnersofthebay@gmail.com. Music is California by The Spectacular Fantastic.

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In this special episode we chat with Dr. Clyde Wilson about nutrition for athletic performance. Dr. Wilson served in the Navy before pursuing a masters and PhD in chemistry with a focus on the molecular aspects of healthy eating and metabolism. Dr. Wilson has worked with Ryan Hall, Lauren Fleshman, the Little Wing team and many other professionals as well as Mimi and other elite amateurs looking to better understand their nutritional needs. In this episode we get into the nitty gritty of what to eat, when to eat, and how to think about nutrition for running performance.

Some highlights from our conversation:

  • The difference between fasted and starved
  • Why being in a starved state is so harmful to your health and athletic performance
  • When and approximately how much to eat before different types of runs
  • How your nutrition should be tied to your overall goals for that training session
  • How to think about gels and other sports-specific fuel as a part of your overall nutrition
  • The importance nutrition plays in avoiding overtraining
  • What he’s learned from working with elites and non-elites (there are more similarities than differences!)
  • The best way to deal with iron deficiency

Follow Dr. Clyde Wilson on Twitter @drclydewilson and learn more on his website http://www.drclydewilson.com/

Recommended reading and resources:

Dr. Wilson's research on what to eat and when

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This week’s episode with Holly Clarke is brought to you by UCAN. Visit ucan.co/discount/ROTB/ for 15% off your order!

Massachusetts native, Holly Clarke started running in high school and ran at John Hopkins where she helped her cross country team win 2 NCAA DIII National Championships. After graduation, she moved out to the Bay Area and was encouraged to join a running team in the last hundred meters from the finish line of her first marathon. Holly joined the Impala Racing Team in 2015 and has been thriving ever since.

In this episode, we discuss Holly’s journey from BQ to OTQ, running with the Impalas, balancing running and work, and why sometimes taking time off is the key to having fun and getting faster.

Some highlights from our conversation:

👩‍💻Being a multidimensional person who also happens to be a talented runner

🌍 How studying abroad led to all sorts of personal breakthroughs that led to becoming a stronger and healthier runner

⛰ Her love for cross-country and how that background set her up for success in the Olympic Marathon Trials

⛷Taking time off for both a mental and physical break

👯‍♀️The power of teamwork and having fun, even before a serious race

🤬 How an imperfect build up with a scary injury can still lead to an amazing race

🙌 Finding her best friends on long runs and celebrating finish lines

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This week’s episode is with Jordan Kutzer who you may know from his viral instagram account Boyfriends of Oiselle. Jordan was born and raised in Southern California and attended Stanford on a baseball scholarship. His senior year at Stanford he met Rebecca Mehra, who is now a professional runner for Oiselle, and they have been together ever since.

In this episode, we discuss Jordan’s baseball career, how Rebecca helped him enjoy running, working in tech, and what it is like to live with a professional runner. Some highlights from our conversation:

  • His love for baseball and identity as an athlete after he stopped playing
  • How he wooed Rebecca with turkey sandwiches and movies
  • The story behind Boyfriends of Oiselle
  • Being a founder and taking risks in his career
  • How tech can help and hurt athletes
  • The shakeup on this season of The Bachelorette!

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This week’s episode is with Christine Lampe from San Francisco. Christine is born and raised in the Bay and works as a math teacher at her former high school. She fell in love with running in college and knew at the finish line of her first race that her love for running would guide her life. In this episode, we discuss how Christine’s training has adapted during the pandemic, how her trip to a training camp in Iten, Kenya unlocked running and personal potential, and her goals to continuously improve. Some highlights from our conversation:

Chasing a personal best in the mile

How training with SFRCC and Oiselle Volee pushes her and keeps things fun

Why getting older has made her brave

How math is like running

Trusting your training on race day

Doing core workouts next to Mary Keitany in Kenya

Follow Christine on Instagram @Christinerunsfast and follow her training on Strava. Follow Runners of The Bay on Instagram and Twitter @Runnersofthebay. Check out our website runnersofthebay.com and send us an e-mail at runnersofthebay@gmail.com. Music is California by The Spectacular Fantastic.

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This week’s episode is with Howard Ekundayo from Oakland. Howard made his way to the Bay after falling in love with running on the streets and in the parks of New York City. Howard graduated from Howard University and has worked for Goldman Sachs, Google, and Netflix as well as co-founding his own startup, all while steadily improving his marathon time from a 3:43 down to a 2:55!

In this episode we discuss how Howard first started running in his 20s, how he connected with bay area runners, and how his approach to running influences his professional life. Some highlights from our conversation:

  • Taking care of his teenage brother when he was in his early 20's
  • First using running as a way to clear his head
  • How finding a running community and people to encourage him along the way influenced his path from recreational runner to serious racer
  • Going after big goals in running and in life
  • Breaking 3 hours in the marathon and qualifying for Boston
  • How Strava stalking unlocked friendship and a community of runners to train with in the Bay Area
  • How his approach to running has shifted over time and what it looks like during Covid-19
  • Taking his wife’s last name and the unexpected fame that came with that decision

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This week’s episode is with Brendan Watkins from Redwood Shores. Brendan is from Ireland and made his way to the Bay Area after living in New York City. He spends his days sharply dressed at Stanford Children’s Health as their Director of Enterprise Analytics, then spends his nights and mornings running. He is a sub-3 hour marathoner who participated in the Triple 8 Quest––8 marathons in 8 days on 7 continents plus New Zealand. In this episode, we discuss how Brendon started running, his quest to win a marathon, and his epic running and traveling adventures. Some highlights from our conversation:

Balancing work and running at a high level

Learning to love running on the streets on New York City

Breaking 3 hours in the marathon in his late 30s

What it was like running 8 marathons in 8 days on 7 continents plus New Zealand, especially for someone who is “not a good flyer”

Winning a marathon on the last day of the Triple 8 Quest in Antarctica.

How the Triple 8 Quest changed him

How running helps him clear his mind

Follow Brendan on Twitter @brendanwatkins and follow his training on Strava. You can read his blog about the Triple 8 Quest here https://brendanstriple8quest.blogspot.com/ Follow Runners of The Bay on Instagram and Twitter @Runnersofthebay. Check out our website runnersofthebay.com and send us an e-mail at runnersofthebay@gmail.com. Music is California by The Spectacular Fantastic.

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In this special episode we chat with Dr. Emily Kraus about hormonal contraception and bone health. Last week, Emily shared an infographicabout these issues targeting female athletes that went viral on runner Twitter and sparked lots of discussion and questions, so we talk about everything from periods to stress fractures and IUDs.

Some highlights from our conversation:

  • How hormones are connected to bone health
  • Why it’s possible to have a “normal” menstrual cycle but still have hormonal imbalances and poor bone health
  • What male athletes should look out for when it comes to energy availability and hormonal health
  • What runners who have lost their periods can do
  • The science connecting oral contraceptives and stress fractures
  • What signs we should be looking for to determine hormonal and bone health

Follow Dr. Emily Kraus on Twitter and Instagram @emilykrausmd, and follow her training on Strava.

Her clinic for young runners at Stanford Children’s Health can be found at: https://www.stanfordchildrens.org/en/service/sports-medicine/conditions/running

Recommended reading and resources:

  • Roar by Stacy Sims
  • Femaleandmaletriad.org
  • The Effects of Menstrual Cycle Phase on Exercise Performance in Eumenorrheic Women: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis

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This week’s episode is with YiOu Wang from Marin. YiOu is a professional runner for Under Armour, a teacher, and a world traveler. She won The North Face Challenge 50 miler in 2019 and qualified for the US Olympic Marathon Trials in 2012 and 2020.

In this episode we discuss how spectating the Boston Marathon in college sparked her interest in running, qualifying for the Olympic trials in the marathon, Some highlights from our conversation:

  • How she discovered her love for running later in life, coming to the sport without a strong sports background as a kid
  • Her early days of marathon training based on books and trial and error
  • Moving from Boston to her husband’s hometown of Marin, and falling in love with the trails in California
  • What she learned from traveling around the world while working as a private tutor
  • How she trains through uncertainty
  • How she adopted her trail training to OTQ in the marathon in only a few weeks
  • Adjusting her mindset and training after all the races she had planned to run this year were cancelled

Follow YiOu on Instagram @ywangruns, on Twitter @Magicsquid, and follow her training on Strava.

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This week’s episode is with Angela Tieri, a resident of Mill Valley, CA who is about to relocate to Ashland, Oregon. Angela is an accomplished trail and road runner and a run and strength coach and a member of the elite northern california all-female running team, the Impalas. She founded her business, Tieri Training, with the goal of helping runners run strong and healthy. (http://www.tieritraining.com/). In this episode we talk about Angela’s Every Tam Trail Quest during quarantine (her attempt to run or hike every trail in the Tam Watershed), how she found running, and her path to becoming a run and strength coach. Some highlights from our conversation:

Why Angela decided to challenge herself by running or hiking every trail in the Tam Watershed

Chasing an Olympic Marathon Trials Qualifying time and being ok with falling short of big goals

How Angela knew strength training was a key component for any running program early on

Angela’s passion for helping others overcome injury

How Angela made the career leap to starting her own business

How the pandemic actually helped Angela expand her coaching offerings beyond anything she could have expected

We’re sad Angela has left the Bay Area, but are excited to follow along on all of her new adventures in Oregon! Follow Angela on Instagram and Twitter @tieri_training, and follow her training on Strava. Follow Runners of The Bay on Instagram and Twitter @Runnersofthebay. Check out our website runnersofthebay.com and send us an e-mail at runnersofthebay@gmail.com. Music is California by The Spectacular Fantastic.

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This week’s episode is with Mario Fraioli from Novato, CA. Mario is a road and trail runner, elite coach, and writer who lives in Marin. He shares his weekly thoughts on running and life in his must-read The Morning Shakeout Newsletter and must-listen The Morning Shakeout Podcast (https://themorningshakeout.com/).

In this episode we discuss how Mario celebrated his 38th birthday by chasing down his high school PR in the mile and we do a deep dive into some of the 38 life lessons that he shared in his newsletter. Some highlights from our conversation:

  • How adversity is just an opportunity to see how you respond to what’s being thrown at you
  • Why simple is often better (but how simple isn’t easy)
  • What he learned from living in different places throughout his life
  • Why he runs without a watch at least once a week
  • His favorite books, authors, and intentional approach toward his weekly newsletter
  • Why he would never bet against Meb Keflezighi
  • How he shapes his life around mood following action and why that important, especially during the pandemic

Follow Mario on Twitter @mariofraioli and follow his training on Strava.

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Subscribe to The Morning Shakeout podcast and newsletter at https://themorningshakeout.com/

Check out Mario’s The Morning Shakeout Podcast episode with his college coach, Karen Boen. He mentions this episode in our discussion as one of his favorites to date, and we agree.

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This week’s episode is with Michelle La Sala. Michelle is the founder of Blistering Pace Race Management, which runs the San Francisco Kaiser Permanente Half Marathon, the Napa Valley Marathon and Half Marathon, and the Big Sur Marathon. She partners with both the Chicago and New York City Marathons. Michelle is also the President of the West Valley Track Club.

Michelle is a sub 3-hour marathoner who fell in love with the sport early on and is deeply invested in fostering a healthy, equitable, and strong running community.

In this episode we discuss:

  • What it was like to host one of the last major marathons in California before everything was cancelled due to the pandemic
  • Her love of running and how it has evolved
  • How she got her start in race management
  • All of the decisions that need to be considered when thinking about races starting up again
  • Her history with an Eating Disorder in college and how that impacts her life now
  • Breaking 3 hours in the marathon
  • How she is thinking about the running community and her passion for fostering an inclusive and supportive environment for all runners
  • How she is challenging the notion of “staying in her lane” and working towards rebuilding a more equitable running/racing community

Follow Michelle on Instagram and Twitter at @lasala916 and follow her training on Strava. You can find her race management company, Blistering Pace, at https://blisteringpace.com/ and on instagram @blisteringpace.

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In this episode, Mimi talks to elite runner, Keira D'Amato.  Keira is a woman of many talents.  She's a realtor in Virgina, a mother of 2, a DJ (listen to Episode 244 of I'll Have Another With Lindsey Hein for more DJ talk), and the 7th fastest 35 years or older in the WORLD for the 5K! Keira is the most decorated runner of all time in American University history where she was coached by Matthew Centrowitz Sr.  At American she was a 4-time All American and 11-time individual Patriot League champion.  Keira placed 5th in the 2005 NCAA DI Cross Country Championships where she beat a few up and comers by the names of Molly Huddle and Amy Hastings. Keira placed 15th in the 2020 US Olympic Marathon trials and was selected to represent the US in the World Half Marathon Championships originally scheduled to take place in Poland this spring - now rescheduled for this fall.  Earlier this week, Keira ran a 15:04 5K time trial on her home track.  For reference, the Olympic standard is 15:10.  Keira's 15:04 makes her the 7th fastest woman 35 or older all time in the world!   Another fun fact about Keira: she's a superfan of the television show, Survivor.  In this episode, Mimi and Keira catch up on all things running, but then get deep into Survivor talk.  We talk about: - How we started watching the show and why we keep watching - Our favorite seasons - Our favorite players - Our experiences meeting various Survivor players IRL - Past contestants we'd like to see play again - The importance and magic of Rob Has a Podcast  - The controversial fire making challenge conundrum at the Final 4 Tribal Council - Our pro-runner fantasy Survivor season - Alliance names - The Final 3 and Winner of Survivor: Rumble of the Runners

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In this episode we talk to Devon Yanko. Devon is a 2-time US Olympic Marathon Trials participant, a 5-time member of TEAM USA in the 100K World Champs. She’s won both the Javelina 100 miler and the Leadville 100 miler. She finished 3rd at Western States in 2016, where her race was featured in the documentary film, Life in a Day. Devon loves to chase Fastest Known Times (FKTs) and continues to challenge herself whether there’s an official race or not. Devon started a bakery called M.H. Bread & Butter with her husband, Nathan, which is a Marin staple for hungry runners post-long run. This is only a small description of Devon’s incredible career and experiences. She is an all around awesome person who is an integral part of both the Bay Area running community and running community at large. Some highlights from the interview with Devon: Her epic virtual race calendar Her path from basketball to running Balancing running with running her bakery Her reluctance in running a 100 miler and path to doing it for herself, not for others How her intrinsic motivation keeps her going and leads her to the most flow state How she thrives in times where she is forced to work hard (like now) What brought her the Bay Area and how she met her husband What success means to her now and going forward Follow Devon on Instagram @fastfoodie and on Strava Check out her Bakery, M.H. Bread & Butter Follow Runners of The Bay on Instagram and Twitter @Runnersofthebay. Check out our website runnersofthebay.com and send us an e-mail at runnersofthebay@gmail.com. Music is California by The Spectacular Fantastic

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In this episode, Mimi and Brigitte talk to Jeannette Mathieu. Jeannette is a Radiology Resident at UCSF by way of Vanderbilt and grew . She runs for the Peninsula Distance Club (PDC) and recently ran the US Olympic Marathon Trials this past February. Jeannette qualified for the trials in her 2nd marathon at California International Marathon (CIM) in 2019.

Jeannette shares:

Her journey to qualifying for the trials and her experience as one of the women who qualified during that magical last minute at CIM in 2019.

How she started running in high school but how she got serious about cultivating her talent during Medical School and into Residency.

Training for the trials while on night-float.

Why she chose Radiology and how it's benefited her own running.

The parallels between a career in medicine and the journey of a runner.

Where she's at with running now and why we shouldn't be surprised if we see her on the trails.

Her short-term and long-term running goals.

We loved getting to know Jeannette better and can't wait to continue to follow her career in both medicine and running.

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In this episode, we chat with Santa Cruz County (Scott’s Valley) raised, Stanford Alum, and current Bowerman Track Club member Vanessa Fraser. Vanessa shares:

How she went from a running a big PB at BU’s Last Chance to undergoing an Achilles and calcaneus procedure on both of her feet.

How she’s handling the longest time off running in her career. How she benefitted from a high school coach who saw her long term potential and didn’t ever let her overtrain for short term goals.

How being one of the youngest, slowest people at Stanford’s cross country camp in 8th grade paved the path for her to joining the Stanford XC/T&F team.

Her major and thesis at Stanford.

What is was like going from Stanford to joining one of the most elite professional teams.

How social media has shifted what it means to be an athlete and the responsibilities professional athletes have to share more than just their running performances with their fans.

What she learned from each of her coaches.

Marielle Hall - Racing to Stay Alive (Runner's World) https://www.runnersworld.com/runners-stories/a32729943/marielle-hall-racing-to-stay-alive/

Bowerman Track Club Store: https://www.bowermantc.com/

Color of Change: https://colorofchange.org/

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In this episode, Brigitte interviews her Runners of The Bay co-host, Mimi Albert.

Brigitte talks to Mimi about:

  • Her idea for Runners of The Bay and how the concept of the podcast evolved and ultimately came to fruition.
  • How Mimi found running as a way to give her an edge in her tennis game in High School
  • How she found her identity as a runner in New York on the Columbia indoor track (and ultimately in Riverside and Central Park).
  • How running ultimately saved her life, giving her a reason to recover from an eating disorder.
  • How she learns from races and training, and what a nerd she is when it comes to running science, stats, history, professional races, etc.
  • The role her coach plays both in her running and in her life as a friend and confidante.
  • Why being a part of the running community is so important for her and her dreams for the future.
  • Why Mimi is such a geek for all sports and how The Mighty Ducks I and II are two of the greatest sports movies ever made (not D3).

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In this episode, Mimi interviews her Runners of The Bay co-host, Brigitte Bradford.

Mimi talks to Brigitte about:

  • How she started running in high school and first got into marathoning.
  • What running looks like in her daily life and how she incorporates what she’s learned as a runner into her work as a Marketing consultant.
  • The race that broke her heart and how she bounced back from a brief period of burnout.
  • The role her coach plays in her running and in her life.
  • What she hopes her relationship with running will look like over time, which includes continuing to get faster and set new PRs, but also is about contributing to and being a bigger part of the running community.

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On Strava at Brigitte Bradford

On Instagram at Brigitte Bradford

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Bay Area Runners Mimi Albert and Brigitte Bradford interview the local legends, weekend warriors, pros, and devoted amateurs who make up our local running culture. Inspired by the Runners of NYC podcast (and many other Running podcasts currently holding a special place in your feed), we’re excited to bring you the stories of the people we flyby and see on the local segment leaderboards. Subscribe and follow us on Twitter and Instagram @runnersofthebay. We can’t wait to share the first episode with you soon!