Welcome to Forgotten America, a podcast about the many places that get flown over, driven past, or completely forgotten and the people who call these places home. In each episode, we’ll diagnose the unique challenges faced by rural America and unpack and explore the solutions to those challenges. We’ll also share the culture, stories, and perspectives of Forgotten Americans from the hilltop to the holler and the desert to the delta.
John Hood is back on the Forgotten America podcast to discuss his latest installment in the Folklore Cycle! Waterfolk takes on the formative period of American history between the 1830s and the 1850s. He shares with Garrett some of the unbelievable historical events and relationships that inspired scenes in his story. He also dives into some of the popular and lesser-known folktales and cryptids that appear throughout the novel. John and Garrett discuss the role restraints play in unleashing creativity, and we even get a sneak peek into the fourth adventure in the Folklore Cycle.
Additional Resources
Waterfolk: https://folklorecycle.com/
John Hood, President of the John William Pope Foundation, https://jwpf.org/team/john-hood/
Episode 20: Mountain Folk https://forgottenamerica.libsyn.com/ep-020-mountain-folk
Episode 48: Forest Folk and the Return of John Hood https://forgottenamerica.libsyn.com/ep-048-forrest-folk-with-john-hood
Bud Collyer – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bud_Collyer
Kraken: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kraken
Water Panther: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underwater_panther
Water Maidens, Welsh: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwragedd_Annwn#:~:text=Gwragedd%20Annwn%2C%20(singular%20Welsh%3A,Teg%20or%20Welsh%20fairy%20folk.
Bear Springs, New Mexico: https://bearsprings.wordpress.com/
Monongahela, Monongy https://uppermonriver.org/do-three-legendary-monsters-inhabit-the-monongahela-river/
1st book favorite character: Nanyehi Nancy Ward, Cherokee woman https://wams.nyhistory.org/settler-colonialism-and-revolution/the-american-revolution/nanyehi-nancy-ward/
2nd book fav: Real Life Ichabod Crane, https://www.thehistoryreader.com/historical-figures/halloween-story-real-ichabod-crane/
3rd book fav: Sam Houston, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Houston
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Andy Fowler, Communications Specialist for the Yankee Institute, joins us for an episode to discuss Connecticut! Although he wasn’t born there, his family has roots in the state that go back to the turn of the 20th century. Garrett & Andy discuss the reputation of Connecticut, its role in the colonial period and the founding of the United States, and the importance of learning about your home state’s history. They also joke about the difficulty of pinning down a defining stereotype for people from Connecticut. If you enjoy pizza, the colonial period, or Gilmore Girls, you’ll enjoy hearing about the Nutmeg State.
Additional Resources:
Nutmeggers: nickname for people from Connecticut
Learn more about Andrew’s work at the Yankee Institute here: https://yankeeinstitute.org/author/andrewfowler/
Hidden in the Oak: https://yankeeinstitute.org/category/hidden-in-the-oak/
Andrew Fowler: @afowlxc on Twitter
Milford, CT: https://www.ci.milford.ct.us/
Waterbury, CT: https://www.waterburyct.org/
Hartford, CT: https://www.hartfordct.gov/Home
Mystic Pizza https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystic_Pizza
Gilmore Girls: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilmore_Girls
Fairfield County: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairfield_County,_Connecticut
Griswold Inn in Essex: https://griswoldinn.com/ (George Washington visited there.)
Silas Deane: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silas_Deane
Yale: https://www.yale.edu/
New Haven: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Haven,_Connecticut
Yukon Huskies: https://uconnhuskies.com/sports/mens-basketball
Connecticut Compromise: https://www.britannica.com/topic/Connecticut-Compromise
New England: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_England
More information about the lack of county governments in Connecticut: https://www.cga.ct.gov/2015/rpt/2015-R-0274.htm
Connecticut’s Nicknames: https://portal.ct.gov/csl/research/state-nicknames?language=en_US or https://connecticuthistory.org/the-storied-history-behind-connecticuts-nicknames/
Does Connecticut even have its own accent? https://newenglandhistoricalsociety.com/the-connecticut-accent-or-does-connecticut-even-have-one/ or https://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/05/nyregion/accent-what-accent.html
New Haven style pizza: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Haven%E2%80%93style_pizza
The Stepford Wives: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stepford_Wives
The Wadsworth Atheneum Museum of Art: oldest art museum in the US https://www.thewadsworth.org/
Nathan Hale: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Hale
Roger Sherman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Sherman
Prudence Crandall: https://www.womenshistory.org/education-resources/biographies/prudence-crandall
Father Michael McGivney, Founder of the Knights of Columbus: https://www.fathermcgivney.org/
Greenwich, CT: https://www.greenwichct.gov/ (one of the wealthiest places in the United States)
Louis’ Lunch: https://louislunch.com/
Pepe’s Pizza: https://pepespizzeria.com/
Lobster Rolls were actually invented in Milford, CT: https://lobsteranywhere.com/new-england-style/history-lobster-roll/
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Clayton Rasche is a first-generation Louisianan who adores his home state. He joins Garrett on this episode of the Forgotten America podcast to share about the incredibly rich culture of Louisiana. The Pelican State has deep French roots which can be seen in everything from the architecture to the political system to the food. We learn a little bit about the differences between Cajun and Creole culture and about the variety of small and large cities to explore. If you enjoy music, soulful food, and nature, you’ll love this exploration of Louisiana through Clayton’s eyes.
Additional Resources
Grand Isle, Louisiana https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Isle,_Louisiana
Louisiana State Symbols https://statesymbolsusa.org/symbol-official-item/louisiana/state-nickname/pelican-state
Zydeco music: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zydeco
Buckwheat Zydeco: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckwheat_Zydeco
Lana Del Rey & her husband: https://www.elle.com/culture/celebrities/a62103404/who-is-lana-del-rey-boyfriend-jeremy-dufrene/
Parishes instead of Counties: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_parishes_in_Louisiana
Cajun: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cajuns
Creole: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana_Creole_people
Some history and differences between Cajun & Creole culture and meaning: https://www.hnoc.org/publications/first-draft/whats-difference-between-cajun-and-creole-or-there-one
Mandeville, Louisiana: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandeville,_Louisiana
True Detective: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2790174/
Liz’s Where Ya At Diner: https://lizswhereyatdiner.com/
Baton Rouge: https://www.visitbatonrouge.com/listing/louisiana-state-capitol/238/
Tiki Bar in New Orleans: https://latitude29nola.com/
Beach Bum Berry’s Latitude 29: https://latitude29nola.com/
Follow Clayton on Social Media
Instagram @claytonrasche
Facebook /claytonrasche/
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Chris Ingstad is the President of Iowans for Tax Relief Foundation and an 8th generation Iowan. He joins the Forgotten America podcast to discuss life in Iowa. Chris explains why he hasn’t seriously considered leaving the state despite its harsh winters, and he talks about the food, culture, economy, and heritage of the Hawkeye state.
Additional Resources
Follow Chris’s work at Iowans for Taxpayer Relief Foundation: https://itrfoundation.org/staff/
Grant Wood and American Gothic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grant_Wood
University of Iowa Writer’s Workshop: https://writersworkshop.uiowa.edu/
Field of Dreams: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097351/
“Our liberties we prize, and our rights we will maintain.” - Iowa State Motto
https://publications.iowa.gov/135/1/profile/8-1.html#:~:text=On%20the%20white%20center%20stripe,in%20red%20below%20the%20streamers
Okoboji, Iowa https://vacationokoboji.com/
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For this Halloween Special, Lyndsey Quinlan, Digital Marketing Associate for the Cardinal Institute, and Jessica Dobrinsky, Staff Writer for the Cardinal Institute, join Garrett Ballengee to discuss horror films set in rural locations. They share their favorites and explore themes of folklore, rural horror, and hicksploitation. They also take a deep dive into what makes a good horror film and look at literary themes, the power of music and lighting in film, human psychology analyzed through film, and some history behind scary movie genres. If you enjoy horror films, and even if you don’t, you’ll enjoy this riveting discussion of top horror films set in rural America.
Follow Jessica & Lyndsey
Follow Jessica Dobrinsky on Twitter https://x.com/jldobrinsky
Follow Lyndsey Quinlan on Twitter https://x.com/its_Lynds_
Films Discussed
Additional Resources & Mentions
Nightmare Before Christmas - film
Hicksploitation – theme/trope
Film Noir - genre
Harry Powers – serial killer
West Virginia Penitentiary a.k.a. Moundsville Penitentiary
Horror Film - genre
Leaning on the Everlasting Arms – Hymn
Once Upon a Time There Was a Pretty Fly – Song
White Zombie – film
Slasher – genre
Head Cheese – food
Video nasty – type of film
Stephen King – author
Carrie – novel
Comedy Horror – genre
The Evil Dead – film
Necronomicon Ex Mortis – fictional book from a film
Ash vs. Evil Dead – TV show
Sam Raimi – film director
Bruce Campbell – actor and producer
The Legend of Sleepy Hollow – book
Atmospheric Horror – genre
Found footage – film technique
Flying Ointment
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Emma Ayers, a native of East Tennessee and Religion & Culture Writer with the Washington Times, joins us today for the second half of our discussion of Hurricane Helene disaster recovery. She shares her perspective on the culture, economy, and people of East Tennessee and how they are responding to the unprecedented natural disaster of Hurricane Helene. She also shares a little about mule trains and other non-traditional ways that Appalachians are helping each other in their time of need.
Additional Resources:
East Tennessee Hurricane Helene Recovery Resources: https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/local/2024/10/10/east-tennessee-flooding-rescues-resources-hurricane-helene-relief/75608482007/
Tennessee Disaster Recovery Map: https://www.tn.gov/tdot/projects/projects-region-1/hurricane-helene-recovery.html
Barstool Conservatism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barstool_conservatism
Mule Trains: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/sep/30/north-carolina-residents-use-mule-trains-to-delive/
Social Trust: https://www.socialcapitalresearch.com/trust-and-trustworthiness/
Follow Emma’s work at the Washington Times: www.washingtontimes.com
Ways to Donate & Support:
Samaritan’s Purse: https://www.samaritanspurse.org/disaster/hurricane-helene/
Look for actual individuals who live in the area who are looking for help on the ground.
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President & CEO - @gballeng
Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy
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Vice President of Communications & Strategy - @akieffer13
Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy
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(We had some unusual technical difficulties when recording this episode. So please forgive any choppiness that may result – we did what we could to edit it as smoothly as possible.)
Brooke Medina, Vice President of Communications for the John Locke Foundation, joins Garrett Ballengee to discuss the impact of Hurricane Helene on Western North Carolina and how these Appalachian communities are responding to this unprecedented disaster.
Additional Resources:
John Locke Foundation: https://www.johnlocke.org/about/team/brooke-medina/
Samaritan’s Purse: https://www.samaritanspurse.org/disaster/hurricane-helene/
Baptists on Mission: https://baptistsonmission.org/
Cajun Navy: https://www.cajunnavyrelief.com/
Donate to Hurricane Helene Refief: https://www.johnlocke.org/help-support-hurricane-helene-relief-efforts-in-western-nc/
Shop to Support Relief Efforts: https://johnlockestore.com/collections/restore-western-nc
Carolina Journal: https://www.carolinajournal.com/
Hurricane Helene: https://www.axios.com/2024/10/04/hurricane-helene-deadliest-us-storms-death-toll
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Shawn Peterson, President of Catholic Education Partners and long-time resident of Minnesota, joins this episode of the Forgotten America podcast to weigh in on the selection of Tim Walz as the Democratic VP nominee. He also shares about the political history of Minnesota and its cultural history and shifts. If you’re curious about the Upper Midwest and its Scandinavian roots, Garrett’s discussion with Shawn will be enlightening.
Mentioned in this Episode:
Red Wing boots from Minnesota
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Borlaug
Minnesota Iron Range: beautiful old towns up there that have fallen into disrepair, very hard-working salt of the earth people
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cass_Gilbert
Norwegian Lefse
https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/18082/norwegian-lefse/
Catholic Education Partners
https://catholiced.us/
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Dr. Barker is the President of Southern Wesleyan University in South Carolina and joins us today to talk about current challenges in higher education and the importance of an education that teaches values and not just skills. Fun Fact: his home state is West Virginia, so Garrett kicks off this discussion by asking Dr. Barker about his hometown of Clarksburg. Dr. Barker shares stories about the Italian heritage of West Virginia, his time as a military chaplain, and how he came to work in higher education. If you care about the future of post-secondary education and wonder how we got to a place with such a broken system, this is an episode you’ll enjoy.
Learn more about Southern Wesleyan and Dr. Barker at https://www.swu.edu/about/who-we-are/our-president/
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Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy
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Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy
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J.D. Vance’s selection as President Trump’s Vice-Presidential running mate has kicked up a renewed firestorm around Vance’s Appalachian bona fides and his book Hillbilly Elegy. Is he legitimately Appalachian? What does it even mean to be Appalachian? In this episode of Forgotten America, Garrett is joined by Anthony Hennen, journalist and fellow Appalachian, to discuss this Vice-Presidential pick and what it might mean for the region.
Kentucky Governor Andy Beshear’s Commentary on J.D. Vance
https://x.com/douglaswburns/status/1817976888695951677
https://x.com/SeanPEngland/status/1815366244624740751
J.D. Vance’s Hillbilly Elegy
https://www.amazon.com/Hillbilly-Elegy-Memoir-Family-Culture/dp/0062300547
Follow Anthony’s Work
https://expatalachians.com/author/anthonyh
https://tfas.org/news/tfas-announces-recipients-of-2023-24-robert-novak-journalism-fellowship/
https://www.thecentersquare.com/users/profile/anthony%20hennen/
Garrett Ballengee, Host
President & CEO - @gballeng
Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy
Amanda Kieffer, Executive Producer & Editor
Vice President of Communications & Strategy - @akieffer13
Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy
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Daniel Corcoran joins Forgotten America to discuss men’s issues and why he feels our modern culture is leaving men behind. Statistics across a variety of sectors show that men are struggling with mental health, criminality, friendship, overall well-being, purposelessness, and society’s perception of men. Dan & Garrett discuss these issues, how they affect men, and ways we can improve the lives of boys and men.
Keep up with Dan’s work:
Overcoming the Divide – YouTube Podcast https://www.youtube.com/@overcomingthedivide
Men of Tomorrow – podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/men-of-tomorrow/id1752861808
@dancorcoran28 on Instagram
Some Relevant Statistics Mentioned in this Episode:
15% of men don’t have a close friend (5 fold increase since 1990)
4 times more likely to die by suicide but 10 percentage points less likely to seek help
10 Million working-age men are not working or looking for work
71% of opioid overdoses are men
80-93% of men comprise prison populations
Additional Resources Mentioned:
Richard Reeves: https://richardvreeves.com/
True Detective Quote: https://www.shmoop.com/quotes/world-needs-bad-men.html
@TheTinMen https://www.instagram.com/thetinmen/
Can’t Hurt Me by David Goggins https://a.co/d/5iFYOas
Stoic Philosophy https://www.britannica.com/topic/Stoicism
Camille Paglia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camille_Paglia
The Art of Manliness https://www.artofmanliness.com/
Jordan Peterson https://www.youtube.com/user/JordanPetersonVideos
Jocko Willink https://jocko.com/
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President & CEO - @gballeng
Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy
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Vice President of Communications & Strategy - @akieffer13
Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy
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Two Hoosiers join the Forgotten America podcast to discuss the differences between two very different regions of Indiana. Sarah Milligan, Assistant Director of Community Engagement for the Institute for Quality Education, and Cesar Roman, Director of Community Engagement, share about life in Hardinsburg, IN and East Chicago, IN — one a rural, southern community and the other a bustling metropolitan satellite of Illinois. It’s clear that despite very different experiences they both love their state. Join us as we learn about the history of Indiana, the variety of cultures represented, and the work Sarah & Cesar are doing to improve access to high-quality K-12 education in the Hoosier State.
Hardinsburg, IN https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardinsburg,_Indiana
East Chicago, IN https://eastchicago.com/
Zelle’s in East Chicago https://www.zelsroastbeef.com/
Rooster’s Hen House https://www.facebook.com/RoostersHenHouseRestaurant/
One of the wealthiest cities in the US https://www.carmel.in.gov/
Time Zones in Indianapolis https://faqs.in.gov/hc/en-us/articles/115005225448-Indiana-Time-Zone-Information
Institute for Quality Education https://www.i4qed.org/
https://www.i4qed.org/calculator
State bird: Cardinal
State flower: Peonie
Highest Point in Indiana: Right on the border of OH. Hoosier Hill
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Jacob McCoy (Jake) is from Man, West Virginia in Logan County and a Contributor to the Cardinal’s Nest Blog. He currently resides in Columbus, Ohio with his wife, son, and daughter. Jacob recently took a month-long trip to Ireland with his family. He and Garrett compare notes about their respective European travels and reflect on their homes in two different parts of West Virginia, changing accents, family history, societal trust, the migrant crisis in Ireland, and more.
Man WV https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man,_West_Virginia
Athlone, Ireland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athlone
Read Jake’s latest contribution to the Cardinal’s Nest Blog. https://cardinalinstitute.com/externalities/
Pigouvian tax: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pigouvian_tax
Hatfield-McCoy Feud: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatfield%E2%80%93McCoy_feud
Aer Lingus: https://www.aerlingus.com/html/en-IE/home.html
R756 Road: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R756_road_(Ireland)
Rock of Cashel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_of_Cashel
Glendalough: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glendalough
Rick Steves Guide to Ireland: https://a.co/d/0cZ2DCSF
The Burren: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Burren
High Trust v. Low Trust: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-trust_and_low-trust_societies
Roscrea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roscrea
Taoiseach https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taoiseach
Limerick https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limerick
King John’s Castle https://kingjohnscastle.ie/
Galway https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galway
Donegal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donegal_(town)
Dingle Peninsula https://www.dingle-peninsula.ie/
Michelin Bib Gourmand https://guide.michelin.com/us/en/article/features/bib-gourmand-explained
Thyme Restaurant https://athlone.ie/eat_and_drink/thyme/
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Originally from Ripley, Ohio and currently residing in Lexington, Kentucky, Caleb Franz is the Program Manager for Young Voices and the author of The Conductor: The Story of Rev. John Rankin, Abolitionism’s Essential Founding Father. Caleb grew up in the town where John Rankin eventually died and was surrounded by stories of his role in history. He is now writing the authoritative biography on this forgotten founding father of the American abolition movement. He joins Garrett on the Forgotten America podcast to make sure we all remember this previously Forgotten American Hero.
Caleb Franz’s book, The Conductor: The Story of Rev. John Rankin, Abolitionism’s Essential Founding Father Coming Out October 15th! https://www.amazon.com/Conductor-Rankin-Abolitionisms-Essential-Founding/dp/1637589891
Follow Caleb’s work at Young Voices here: https://www.joinyv.org/staff/caleb-franz
De Tocqueville on Slavery along the Ohio River https://voegelinview.com/noble-savages-and-barbarized-slaves-tocqueville-on-native-americans-and-african-americans-in-democracy-in-america/
Beyond the River: The Untold Story of the Heroes of the Underground Railroad https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-River-Untold-Underground-Railroad/dp/0684870665
Read more about John Rankin https://rlo.acton.org/archives/125356-the-letters-that-inspired-the-american-abolition-movement.html
Second Great Awakening: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Great_Awakening
John Rankin House https://www.ohiohistory.org/visit/browse-historical-sites/john-rankin-house/
John Rankin’s burial place https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/8760833/john-rankin
National Underground Railroad Freedom Center https://freedomcenter.org/
Buffalo Trace Bourbon: https://www.rarebourbonshop.com/products/buffalo-trace-bourbon-1-liter
Elijah Craig Bourbon: https://www.rarebourbonshop.com/products/elijah-craig-small-batch-bourbon
Twitter @CalebFranz
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What do the French Horn, Led Zepplin, and C.S. Lewis have in common? They are all part of the Great Conversation. Dr. Junius Johnson joins the Forgotten America podcast to discuss classical education and the literary life. Dr. Johnson grew up in Louisville, KY, and shares his story of discovering the Western Canon, classical music, and Latin. This episode is a great introduction to the classical education movement taking the country by storm. If you’d like to see a little more truth, goodness, and beauty reflected in the world around you, you’ll want to listen to this episode and hear the wisdom Dr. Johnson has to share with us. And if you’re looking for a new book to add to your booklist, make sure you take notes while listening.
Follow Dr. Junius Johnson’s work: https://www.juniusjohnson.com/ OR https://academics.juniusjohnson.com/
Further Reference:
The Western Cannon by Harold Bloom https://www.abebooks.com/first-edition/Western-Canon-Book-School-Ages-BLOOM/31214804233/bd
C.S. Lewis https://www.christianbook.com/page/christian-authors/cs-lewis
Mimesis - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mimesis
Resource for scanning Latin poetry https://www.thoughtco.com/scan-a-line-of-latin-poetry-118819
John Dewey: https://www.britannica.com/biography/John-Dewey
William James: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/james/
Children of Time
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_of_Time_(novel)
Dune
https://www.thriftbooks.com/series/dune-chronicles/37695/
Garth Nix
https://garthnix.com/books/the-seventh-tower/
https://garthnix.com/books/the-keys-to-the-kingdom/
https://garthnix.com/books/the-old-kingdom/
Timothy Zahn
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadrail_series
Writing history textbooks for highschoolers with Classical Academic Press: Humanitas
https://classicalacademicpress.com/
https://classicalacademicpress.com/collections/humanitas
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In this special solo episode, Garrett takes some time to reflect on recent conversations with guests of the Forgotten America podcast and his Spring vacation to Scottland & Ireland. The last few months of guests and travel have driven home the need for West Virginia to have a Hall of Heroes to celebrate its people and its past. This episode is a great reminder of the importance of loving the place you’re from and sharing your passion for it with others.
Special Mentions:
Edinburgh, Scottland https://edinburgh.org/
Similarities between Scottland and Appalachia https://www.ecoclimax.com/2021/05/the-appalachian-mountains-scottish.html
Of course, Scottland would have a history of coal mining! https://edinburgh.org/event/before-and-after-coal/
Adam Smith: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Smith
Cliffs of Moher – Ireland https://www.cliffsofmoher.ie/
Galway (Irish Nashville) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galway
The Burren https://www.cliffsofmoher.ie/your-visit/beyond-the-cliffs-places-to-see/the-burren/
Garrett Ballengee, Host President & CEO - @gballeng Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Amanda Kieffer, Executive Producer Vice President of Communications & Strategy - @akieffer13 Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Nate Phipps, Editor & Producer Communications & Social Media Associate - @Aviv5753 Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Follow: YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram Support: Patreon, Donate, Newsletter
Tiffany Hoben is the Director of Education Partnerships & Strategy for the Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy. She joins the Forgotten America Podcast to share her motivations for moving from the Sunshine State to the Mountain State, her passion for civics education, and her belief in the importance of feeling rooted in a local community.
The Outpost: https://outpostnrg.com/
Florida Civics Standards: https://www.fldoe.org/civicliteracy/
Comments from the Civics Alliance on the 2024 Proposed West Virginia Social Studies Standards: https://civicsalliance.org/letter-comment-on-west-virginia-social-studies-standards/
New River Gorge: https://www.nps.gov/neri/index.htm
Parrish, Florida: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parrish,_Florida
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Homer Hickam is a true West Virginia hero. Raised in Coalwood, a mining town in southern West Virginia, he went on to fight in the Vietnam War, work for NASA, and become a best-selling author. His book, Rocket Boys, was made into the popular movie October Sky. In this episode, he shares with Garrett stories from his life that reveal how his upbringing in West Virginia contributed to his success.
Homer tells about the inspiration behind his books, expresses his love for the Appalachian mountains, and gives his thoughts about education, the importance of community, and so much more. He even gives a sneak peek into some upcoming projects that he is working on.
Garrett’s conversation with Homer evokes a sense of both comforting familiarity and otherworldliness. This episode of Forgotten America will leave you in awe of how much things have changed since the 40s but also grateful for the resilience of the Mountaineer Spirit.
Follow Homer’s work by visiting his website: https://homerhickam.com/
Get a copy of his newest book, Don’t Blow Yourself Up, here: https://homerhickam.com/project/dont-blow-yourself-up/
October Sky (movie adaptation of his memoir, Rocket Boys): https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0132477/
Coalwood, WV: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalwood,_West_Virginia
Buddy Ebsen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddy_Ebsen
Jake Gyllenhaal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jake_Gyllenhaal
Carrying Albert Home: https://homerhickam.com/project/carrying-albert-home/
Garrett Ballengee, Host President & CEO - @gballeng Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Amanda Kieffer, Executive Producer Vice President of Communications & Strategy - @akieffer13 Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Nate Phipps, Editor & Producer Communications & Social Media Associate - @Aviv5753 Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Follow: YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram Support: Patreon, Donate, Newsletter
This episode of Forgotten America opens with a brief walk down memory lane. Garrett shares how he first met Dr. Thompson at his Moral Foundations of Capitalism seminar at Clemson University. Dr. Thompson’s lecture was a catalyst moment for Garrett that led him down a career path that brought him home to run the Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy, a free market think tank.
Dr. Bradley Thompson was born in Canada, but he considered himself an American born in the wrong country from a young age. He tells the story of how hitchhiking through the United States was a formative experience for him and explains that he chose to explore rural America this way for two reasons: to discover America and to discover himself.
This episode of the Forgotten America podcast explores the origins of Dr. Thompson’s Substack entitled Redneck Intellectual, how COVID impacted a generation of young men and women, what makes classical education unique, and the importance of fatherhood. If you enjoy thinking about the big questions of life, this episode is one that you won’t want to miss.
The Well Trained Mind (online resource) https://welltrainedmind.com/
The Well Trained Mind: The Essential Edition (book)
C. Bradley Thompson, Professor at Clemson University and Executive Director for the Clemson Institute for the Study of Capitalism https://www.clemson.edu/centers-institutes/capitalism/cisc/bradley-thompson.html
Dr. Thompson’s website: https://cbradleythompson.com/
The American Mountain People: National Geographic https://www.amazon.com/American-Mountain-National-Geographic-Society/dp/B00PAC6LMY
The How and Why Book of the American Revolution https://www.amazon.com/How-Book-American-Revolution-Wonder/dp/B000BOZY3I
The Fountainhead by Ayn Rand https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fountainhead
Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand https://aynrand.org/novels/atlas-shrugged/
Fathers and Sons, American Style https://cbradleythompson.com/fathers-and-sons-american-style/
LocoFoco Press https://cbradleythompson.substack.com/p/announcement-from-the-redneck-intellectual
Twitter: @CBradleyThomps1
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Sarah Montalbano is the Policy Manager for the Alaska Policy Forum and a senior fellow with the Independent Women’s Forum. She was born and raised in Wasilla, AK, and her family has roots in the state from the era before Alaskan statehood. Sarah joins the Forgotten America podcast to share about the culture, natural beauty, and economic growth of the state. Garrett & Sarah discuss public policy challenges Alaska faces, art and culture, and the history of the native population as well as how Alaskans handle issues of conservation and responsible land development. Follow @SarahMontalban0 and at IWF, Young Voices, and Alaska Policy Forum. Additional Resources for This Episode Wasilla, Alaska: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasilla,_Alaska Alaska Policy Forum: https://alaskapolicyforum.org/author/sarahm/ Mat-Su Valley: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matanuska-Susitna_Valley Alaska Permanent Fund: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Permanent_Fund Endless Wall Trail in West Virginia https://www.nps.gov/places/endless-wall-trail.htm Hatcher Pass Alaska https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatcher_Pass 229 federally recognized federally recognized Alaskan native villages. Alaska Federation of Natives: https://www.nativefederation.org/ Alaska Native Corporations: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Native_Claims_Settlement_Act 13 regional corporations that generate revenues and distribute them to shareholders Denali National Park: https://www.alaska.org/destination/denali-national-park Hobo Jim State Balladeer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobo_Jim Bus 142 from Into the Wild: https://www.uaf.edu/museum/collections/ethno/projects/bus_142/index.php Into the Wild (book): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Into_the_Wild_(book) Firecracker Boys (book): https://www.amazon.com/Firecracker-Boys-Dan-ONeill/dp/0465003486 Garrett Ballengee, Host President & CEO - @gballeng Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Amanda Kieffer, Executive Producer Vice President of Communications & Strategy - @akieffer13 Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Nate Phipps, Editor & Producer Communications & Social Media Associate - @Aviv5753 Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Follow: YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram Support: Patreon, Donate, Newsletter
Jerry Apps is Professor Emeritus at the University of Wisconsin-Madison and the author of more than 35 books. He is a storyteller and historian, joining the Forgotten America podcast to share about his life growing up on a dairy farm in rural, central Wisconsin. Born during the Great Depression, his youth inspired much of his subsequent work and his love for rural America. He joins Garrett to discuss his upcoming book, Farms & Rural Communities: An Agricultural Ethic for the Future. If you’ve ever enjoyed listening to a beloved grandparent tell stories of their childhood, you’ll particularly enjoy this episode which dives into the history of family farming and much of the forgotten history of rural life in America. Follow Jerry’s work at https://jerryapps.com/ Purchase a copy of his new book from Fulcrum Books. Signed copies are available. Garrett Ballengee, Host President & CEO - @gballeng Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Amanda Kieffer, Executive Producer Vice President of Communications & Strategy - @akieffer13 Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Nate Phipps, Editor & Producer Communications & Social Media Associate - @Aviv5753 Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Follow: YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram Support: Patreon, Donate, Newsletter
Nick Deiuliis is a chemical engineer, attorney, and business executive. During a career spanning 30 years, he served as the CEO or Chairman of the Board of five public energy companies. During that time, Nick has been on the front lines of the war being waged by elites against working men and women of Appalachia, the “doers” of the American economy, and the free-thinking individual. Nick is a lifelong Pittsburgher and considers himself a proud capitalist and free enterprise advocate. He joins Garrett today to discuss the city of Pittsburgh and its place among Appalachian cities, the energy industry’s role in society and the future of the region, and Nick’s book, Precipice: The Left’s Campaign to Destroy America. Nick shares about the thinkers who inspired his own personal philosophy and the path his career in the energy industry took. If you’re wondering what Appalachians can do to build a brighter future and fight back against coastal elites, you’ll want to listen to this episode of Forgotten America. Learn more about Nick’s work here. Buy and Read Precipice: The Left’s Campaign to Destroy America Reason Article Mentioned: https://reason.com/2005/10/01/rethinking-the-social-responsi-2/ Garrett Ballengee, Host President & CEO - @gballeng Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Amanda Kieffer, Executive Producer Vice President of Communications & Strategy - @akieffer13 Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Nate Phipps, Editor & Producer Communications & Social Media Associate - @Aviv5753 Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Follow: YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram Support: Patreon, Donate, Newsletter
Elyse Marcellino is the Director of Embark in Mississippi. Embark is a new schools accelerator that works with school founders to help them move from idea to doors open. They guide school founders through early planning and preparing to launch so they can successfully open new schools to serve students throughout the state. Elyse and Garrett start this episode by celebrating what West Virginia and Mississippi have in common and commiserating as residents of states that are often ridiculed by coastal elites. Elyse shares about her experience with several types of education environments growing up which inspired her to make a career in the education reform movement. Sometimes supply needs a little help meeting demand - Garrett & Elyse discuss how we can improve education options outside of state legislatures by working alongside education entrepreneurs to meet the educational needs in our communities even in rural communities. Embark Laurel, Mississippi Home Town on HGTV Mississippi Delta Garrett Ballengee, Host President & CEO - @gballeng Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Amanda Kieffer, Executive Producer Vice President of Communications & Strategy - @akieffer13 Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Nate Phipps, Editor & Producer Communications & Social Media Associate - @Aviv5753 Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Follow: YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram Support: Patreon, Donate, Newsletter
Fred Fransen is the President of Huntington Junior College and Co-Founder of Certell, Inc. He also previously served as Executive Director at the Center for Excellence in Higher Education and as Senior Fellow for Liberty Fund. He has been working to make breakthroughs in how to improve education at both the K-12 and higher education levels. Garrett & Fred talk about the role of junior colleges in the reformation of education in the United States, particularly about the changes Fred is making at Huntington Junior College to incorporate civics and Great Books education into the college’s programs. Fred shares about the defining role the Fall of the Berlin Wall played in his realization of how important freedom is, and how that moment led him to the University of Chicago, which underscored his future career in higher education reform and philanthropy. They also explore Fred’s time in a small town called Eureka Springs, Arkansas. Committee on Social Thought at University of Chicago Find Fred Fransen on LinkedIn Alan Bloom Liberty Fund Huntington Junior College Garrett Ballengee, Host President & CEO - @gballeng Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Amanda Kieffer, Executive Producer Vice President of Communications & Strategy - @akieffer13 Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Nate Phipps, Editor & Producer Communications & Social Media Associate - @Aviv5753 Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Follow: YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram Support: Patreon, Donate, Newsletter
Join us for a Thanksgiving-themed episode before we pause for the holidays!
On Thanksgiving Eve, Garrett recorded another solo episode. He shared ten things he is grateful for this Thanksgiving. He observes how the practice of gratitude can break up the monotony of life and cut through the polarization of our day. For Garrett, remembering the good things in his life has helped him get through dark times. Gratitude is a catalyst for both joy and togetherness when both might otherwise be absent.
Also, to give our team a break during this holiday season, we are going to take a pause from releasing episodes for the month of December. We all need a moment to reflect on where we have been and where we are going in the New Year. We’ll be back in January to start off 2024 with some great content!
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Monica Moses is a policy fellow for the Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy and a PhD candidate at West Virginia University. She joins Garrett today to discuss the role colleges and universities play in rural communities. She discusses how growing up in a small town near St. Bonaventure University influenced her interest in researching the role universities and colleges play in rural areas. Garrett & Monica explore the symbiotic relationship that these higher education institutions have with the communities around them and how they can help prevent brain drain. Learn more about Monica’s work and follow her on Twitter @MonicaaMoses. Olean, New York St. Bonaventure University Alleghany River Ascend WV Garrett Ballengee, Host Executive Director - @gballeng Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Amanda Kieffer, Executive Producer Communications Director - @akieffer13 Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Nate Phipps, Editor & Producer Communications & Social Media Associate - @Aviv5753 Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Follow: YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram Support: Patreon, Donate, Newsletter
Ashley Stinnett is the Communications Coordinator for Coalfield Development, he’s a co-founder of the Film Futures Foundation, a former republican candidate for the West Virginia House of Delegates, an actor, and an author. He was born and grew up in Lavalette, West Virginia and currently resides in Wayne County. Today he joins Garrett to talk about Halloween, the horror genre, and his book Haunted Tales From Appalachia: Ghosts, Spirits and Other Strange Happenings from the Hills and Hollows. Many of the stories in Ashley’s book are inspired by real events. In this episode, he shares some of the family stories that inspired his book and discusses his faith and its influence on his horror writing. Garrett & Ashley explore the value of the horror genre in film and writing and tackle the question “Is Appalachia an inherently scary place?” Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scary_Stories_to_Tell_in_the_Dark Goosebumps books https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goosebumps Scholastic BookFair https://bookfairs.scholastic.com/content/fairs/home.html Other Books by Ashley Stinnett: The Liberty Documents: Principles That Framed a Nation Grasping Appalachian Conservatism: How Not to Be Mistaken for a Latte Liberal The Liberty Essays: Restoring a Lost American Principle Garrett Ballengee, Host Executive Director - @gballeng Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Amanda Kieffer, Executive Producer Communications Director - @akieffer13 Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Nate Phipps, Editor & Producer Communications & Social Media Associate - @Aviv5753 Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Follow: YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram Support: Patreon, Donate, Newsletter
Kim Dully has a Master’s degree in School Counseling, she is a Grassroots Coordinator with Love Your School-WV, and a co-host of the We Have Hope podcast. She has years of experience working with families and kids, particularly with recruiting and teaching foster parents in the northern panhandle of West Virginia. On today’s episode of Forgotten America, Kim shares her experience with the foster care system as a child whose siblings were in foster care in Pennsylvania and as an adult who has worked to recruit foster families in West Virginia. Her story helps to highlight the beauty that comes when one adult steps in the gap for a child and the brokenness that exists in our current foster care system. Kim Dully kim@loveyourschoolwv.org We Have Hope podcast https://www.loveyourschool.org/we-have-hope-podcast/ Garrett Ballengee, Host Executive Director - @gballeng Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Amanda Kieffer, Executive Producer Communications Director - @akieffer13 Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Nate Phipps, Editor & Producer Communications & Social Media Associate - @Aviv5753 Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Follow: YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram Support: Patreon, Donate, Newsletter
Aaron Renn is a writer and consultant based in Indianapolis and is a co-founder and Senior Fellow at American Reformer. He had a first career in management and technology consulting advising major corporations as a Partner at Accenture and a second career in urban policy as a Senior Fellow at the Manhattan Institute for Policy Research. Today his focus is on helping conservatives and the American church rise to the challenge of finding success in the 21st century. Appalachia is the last physically beautiful land in America that does not have extreme climate and is affordable. The same sorts of people who are buying up land in the West will soon, and already are, turning their sights east toward Appalachia. In this episode of Forgotten America, Aaron and Garrett tackle difficult questions like the role climate plays in economic growth, how migration is impacting local communities in the region, and the major divide Aaron sees between the North and South Appalachian regions. Garrett asks what kind of progress should we want for our region and should we look to growing mountain state regions in the West for ideas to grow economically in Appalachia? Listen in to hear what Aaron thinks about the present and future of Appalachia and his citizen-centric strategy for prosperity. Stats & Terms Mentioned Idaho is the 2nd fastest growing state in the country. https://www.census.gov/library/stories/state-by-state/idaho-population-change-between-census-decade.html Appalachian Regional Commission's discussion of subregions in Appalachia. https://www.arc.gov/map/subregions-in-appalachia/ Sunbelt vs. Frostbelt https://www.jrank.org/encyclopedia/pages/cm7kzpwgun/Sunbelt-Frostbelt.html Brookings Institution’s Exurbia Info CentralApp https://www.centralapp.us/ Oktana https://oktana.com/ Nate Phipp’s article about these remote companies https://cardinalinstitute.com/a-west-virginia-miracle-in-remote-work-innovation/ SOAR https://soar-ky.org/ Governing.com article on relocation incentives https://www.governing.com/work/pay-people-to-move-to-your-state-or-region-maybe-its-not-such-a-bad-idea You can keep up with Aaron Renn by subscribing to his Substack. Twitter: @Aaron_Renn The pieces that inspired this episode. https://urbanreforminstitute.org/2023/08/the-future-of-appalachia/ https://www.aaronrenn.com/p/future-of-appalachia https://www.city-journal.org/article/appalachias-north-south-divide Garrett Ballengee, Host Executive Director - @gballeng Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Amanda Kieffer, Executive Producer Communications Director - @akieffer13 Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Nate Phipps, Editor & Producer Communications & Social Media Associate - @Aviv5753 Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Follow: YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram Support: Patreon, Donate, Newsletter
Jessi Troyan, Director of Policy & Research for the Cardinal Institute, takes over the Forgotten America podcast as guest host. She interviews Chris Denson, Director of Policy & Research at the Georgia Public Policy Foundation, about health care in rural America, particularly focusing on his experiences with the healthcare system in Georgia. Prior to his time at the Georgia Public Policy Foundation, Chris served as Director of Outreach at HCA Memorial Health in Savannah, a 612-bed Level 1 trauma center serving a 32-county region in Southeast Georgia and South Carolina and as the Director of Advisory Services for Hometown Health, a multi-state rural hospital trade association based in Georgia. He shares his unique perspective on health care policy and its impacts on rural communities. Key Statistics Mentioned: * 159 Counties in Georgia + 82 w/o OB/GYNs + 65 w/o Pediatricians + 40 w/o Internal Medicine + 18 w/o Family Medicine + 9 with No Physicians whatsoever
50 services and facility types are regulated through CON
You’re 10% more likely to have a Nurse Practitioner office in rural areas.
Reports from Georgia Public Policy Foundation https://www.georgiapolicy.org/publications/addressing-georgias-healthcare-disparities-the-benefits-of-full-practice-authority-for-nurse-practitioners-and-physician-assistants/#how-underserved-is-most-of-georgia https://www.georgiapolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/CON-report.pdf Georgia Public Policy Foundation: https://www.georgiapolicy.org/about/ Chris Denson: https://www.georgiapolicy.org/people/chris-denson/ Knee Center for the Study of Occupational Regulation: https://csorwvu.com/ Garrett Ballengee, Host Executive Director - @gballeng Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Amanda Kieffer, Executive Producer Communications Director - @akieffer13 Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Nate Phipps, Editor & Producer Communications & Social Media Associate - @Aviv5753 Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Follow: YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram Support: Patreon, Donate, Newsletter
Anthony Hennen covers Pennsylvania as a reporter for the Center Square and is the Managing Editor of Expatalachians. He also was recently named a Robert Novak Journalism Fellow with the Fund for American Studies. He joins Garrett today to discuss Presidential election season and how candidates are addressing rural American issues. Find Anthony online at: Center Square: https://www.thecentersquare.com/pennsylvania/ Expatalachians: http://expatalachians.com/ Anthony’s previous Forgotten America Episode: https://forgottenamerica.libsyn.com/ep-006-expatalachians Garrett Ballengee, Host Executive Director - @gballeng Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Amanda Kieffer, Executive Producer Communications Director - @akieffer13 Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Tony Reed, Editor & Producer Associate Director of Operations - @treed1134 International Center for Law & Economics Follow: YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram Support: Patreon, Donate, Newsletter
Marina Herrera is a 17th generation New Mexican on the Spanish side of her family with roots as far back as time immemorial on the indigenous side of her family. She joins Garrett today to talk about her life growing up in New Mexico’s Mora Valley. She takes us on a journey through the culture, language, food, and art of the region that inspires a sense of awe. Marina also shares the challenges New Mexico faces and the ways she is working with the Rio Grande Foundation to address those concerns. If you’ve ever said, “Thank God for Mississippi,” you’re likely to relate to the experiences Marina shares in this episode of the Forgotten America podcast. Statistics Mentioned * New Mexico is 51st for education * New Mexico is 1st in the nation for non-violent crime * Record breaking homicides five years in a row * Espanola is the heroin capitol of the world * Albuquerque is a sanctuary city * New Mexico spends more per student but gets worse outcomes than any of their neighboring states * New Mexico is #1 in the nation for Ph.D.s per capita * New Mexico is one of the world’s largest producers (surpassing Mexico) of oil & gas
Places to Visit The Buckhorn Tavern in San Antonio, #7 burger in the nation, Green Chile Cheese burger The Owl in San Antonio, https://sanantonioowl.com/ Santa Fe, New Mexico Salinas Pueblo Missions National Monument, part of the National Park Service System https://www.nps.gov/sapu/index.htm New Mexican music has a distinct style. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexico_music World’s Tallest Tramway https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandia_Peak_Tramway San Miguel Church - oldest church in the U.S. The Cathedral Basilica of St. Francis of Assisi El Pinto - restaurant Geronimo - famous restaurant Sangre de Cristo Mountains https://www.britannica.com/place/Sangre-de-Cristo-Mountains Las Vegas, New Mexico and Taos, New Mexico on the map Additional Information & References Learn more about Marina and her work at the Rio Grande Foundation. Penitente Morada of Abiquiu Learn more about Penitentes, a private Catholic Brotherhood unique to Northern, New Mexico Santeros - Saint art makers, distinct form of iconography art Colcha embroidery - unique form of art from the American southwest Breaking Bad https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0903747/
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When you hear the words “New York,” what do you think of? Maybe you think of Times Square or Wall Street. Perhaps you think of the Empire State Building. Does your mind immediately go to pizza? Mine does. There’s a number of cultural references to New York that may come to mind. But whatever you think of, I’m willing to bet the first thing that comes to mind is related to New York City . . . not New York state. What is the rest of New York like beyond Manhattan? How do New Yorkers feel about the stereotypes and the tendency of American pop culture to reduce their entire state to a single city? The Cardinal Institute’s newest team member, Nate Phipps, joins us to share about his childhood in upstate New York and the similarities and differences between New York state and states like West Virginia. Nate Phipps bio ---------- Garrett Ballengee, Host Executive Director - @gballeng Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Amanda Kieffer, Executive Producer Communications Director - @akieffer13 Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Tony Reed, Editor & Producer Associate Director of Operations - @treed1134 International Center for Law & Economics Follow: YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram Support: Patreon, Donate, Newsletter
This may have been one of my favorite episodes to record in quite awhile, and I hope you all enjoy it too. In this week’s episode, Garrett interviews West Virginia author, S.D. Smith, author of the beloved Green Ember series. Garrett & Sam discuss such wide-ranging topics as the beauty of Appalachia, Sam’s childhood in South Africa, the philosophy and writing of J.R.R. Tolkien and C.S. Lewis, and the feeling that many West Virginians have of inferiority inter-mixed with a deep sense of pride. If you believe all children should read fairy tales, if you feel awe when you behold the sunset across the Appalachian Mountains, and if you enjoy the company of characters from a good book, you will adore this discussion with Sam and the sneak peak he gives into his life as a writer in southern West Virginia. Follow Sam’s work at his website https://sdsmith.com/. Literature and Locations Mentioned Three Men in a Boat (To Say Nothing of the Dog) Old Smith Cemetery, Wayne County, WV Pipestem Resort State Park New River Gorge National Park and Preserve Little Beaver State Park “it grows like a seed in the dark out of the leaf-mould of the mind: out of all that has been seen or thought or read, that has long ago been forgotten, descending into the deeps.” - J.R.R. Tolkien More information on the concept of “leaf-mould of the mind” from the Rabbit Room. ---------- Garrett Ballengee, Host Executive Director - @gballeng Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Amanda Kieffer, Executive Producer Communications Director - @akieffer13 Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Tony Reed, Editor & Producer Associate Director of Operations - @treed1134 International Center for Law & Economics Follow: YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram Support: Patreon, Donate, Newsletter
Mark Moses has provided finance-related management and consulting services to local government agencies since 2011 after spending two decades working directly for municipal agencies in senior-level finance and administrative management positions. He joins Garrett today on Forgotten America to discuss an area of political life that is often forgotten, overlooked, and dismissed: municipal finance. Each of us is often most aware of national politics, and when it comes to certain issues, we may pay attention to our state legislatures. But how many of us keep an eye on what the level of government closest to us is doing? Mark & Garrett discuss how the sprawling missions of towns, cities, and municipalities can negatively affect the lives of those who form these communities. I think you’ll be surprised just how much city hall impacts your life. Website: https://munifinanceguy.com/ Twitter: @MuniFinanceGuy Mark’s Book: The Municipal Financial Crisis: A Framework for Understanding and Fixing Government Budgeting ---------- Garrett Ballengee, Host Executive Director - @gballeng Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Amanda Kieffer, Executive Producer Communications Director - @akieffer13 Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Tony Reed, Editor & Producer Associate Director of Operations - @treed1134 International Center for Law & Economics Follow: YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram Support: Patreon, Donate, Newsletter
Danny Murphy, the Director of Right on Crime for Virginia and West Virginia, joins Garrett Ballengee and Jessica Dobrinsky Harris, Cardinal’s Policy Analyst, for a discussion of what it means to reform the criminal justice system in America and how we can approach this issue from a perspective rooted in the principles of liberty. In this episode, we tackle issues like mandatory minimums, what it means to be “tough on crime,” differences in types of drug offenders, bail reform, plea bargaining, federalism, and more. Right on Crime ---------- Garrett Ballengee, Host Executive Director - @gballeng Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Amanda Kieffer, Executive Producer Communications Director - @akieffer13 Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Tony Reed, Editor & Producer Associate Director of Operations - @treed1134 International Center for Law & Economics Follow: YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram Support: Patreon, Donate, Newsletter
Kerry McDonald, a national expert on education entrepreneurship and alternative forms of education, joins Garrett to discuss nontraditional schooling and the growing trend of microschooling in America. Garrett & Kerry explore the history of homeschooling and the reasons why many have chosen to return to a model of education that is reminiscent of the one room schoolhouse while debunking several popular myths about homeschooling and other forms of alternative education. Kerry also shares the most recent statistics about homeschooling and microschooling in the United States along with stories from her work with education entrepreneurs across the country. Senior Education Fellow at FEE and the host of the LiberatED podcast. Unschooled: Raising Curious, Well-educated Children outside the Conventional Classroom Pioneer Institute Embark ---------- Hosted by Garrett Ballengee Executive Director - @gballeng Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Executive Producer Amanda Kieffer Communications Director - @akieffer13 Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Produced & Edited by Tony Reed Associate Director of Operations - @treed1134 International Center for Law & Economics Follow: YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram Support: Patreon, Donate, Newsletter
Today’s episode takes a bit of a detour outside of our typical topics about communities and challenges in rural America. Scott Beyer joins us again on the Forgotten America Podcast - this time to discuss the Scott Beyer Market Urbanism World Tour, where he is exploring 40 cities across 3 regions for a year and a half, to see how the fast pace of development in the Global South can inform free-market policy and urban issues in a broader context. Garrett talks with Scott just after he has completed the first segment of his worldwide tour in Latin America. He shares the differences he is seeing between Southern American countries and North America in terms of our cultures, levels of regulation, and the way we build our cities. He also discusses the importance of the rule of law, free-markets, and other freedom values that could help these cities in the Global South become more prosperous. On the flip-side, Scott also shares how at the smallest levels, some of these countries are even freer and less regulated than the United States - there are even some cities that are entirely privately owned! While our podcast focuses primarily on rural America, the lines between urban and rural can often be a bit blurry, so let’s join Garrett & Scott to see what we can learn from Scott’s exploration of world-wide urbanism through a free-market lens. Maybe we’ll find solutions to the challenges that are facing us in our very own communities. Resources Large City Rankings 1. Tokyo 2. Dheli 3. Shanghai 4. Sao Paulo 5. Mexico City 6. Cairo 7. Mumbai 8. Beijing 9. Dhaka 10. Osaka 11. New York 12. Karachi 13. Buenos Aires 14. Chongqing 15. Istanbul
Favelas - working class neighborhoods in Brazil (Scott compares these to the homes West Virginians build up into the hills and the ways in which trailer park communities are organized in some rural communities) How to Follow Scott Beyer’s Work Market Urbanism Report The Market Urbanism Podcast Market Urbanism Report Facebook Group Scott’s previous episode on Forgotten America: Ep.004: The Jagged Heart of Appalachia Twitter: @sbcrosscountry or @marketurbanist Instagram: @market_urbanism_report Follow Scott’s World Tour at the Independent Institute: Catalyst ---------- Garrett Ballengee, Host Executive Director - @gballeng Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Amanda Kieffer, Executive Producer Communications Director - @akieffer13 Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Tony Reed, Editor & Producer Associate Director of Operations - @treed1134 International Center for Law & Economics Follow: YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram Support: Patreon, Donate, Newsletter
Dr. Matt Ladner is an education policy researcher and is the Executive Editor of ReimaginED, a blog focused on education choice. Matt is also the Director of the Arizona Center for Student Opportunity at the Arizona Charter School Association. Matt joins Garrett today to discuss his recent paper, co-authored with Jason Bedrick and published by the Heritage Foundation, Rustic Renaissance: Education Choice in Rural America. They talk about how well American public education is doing at achieving its purpose of “equipping students with the knowledge, skills, and habits they need for success in life and preparing them to exercise citizenship responsibly.” Matt also explains how regulatory capture is impacting America’s K-12 system. If you’re interested in how school choice policies are impacting rural America, this is the episode for you. Wired Article mentioned: The Techies Who Are Hacking Education by Homeschooling Their Kids You can follow Matt’s work at: ReimaginED Arizona Charter Schools Association Twitter: @MatthewLadner Please take a moment today to rate and review this podcast on your favorite streaming service. It helps other people find the podcast so they too can learn about the culture and challenges of Forgotten America and how individuals are tackling them. ---------- Hosted by Garrett Ballengee Executive Director - @gballeng Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Executive Producer Amanda Kieffer Communications Director - @akieffer13 Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Produced & Edited by Tony Reed Associate Director of Operations - @treed1134 International Center for Law & Economics Follow: YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram Support: Patreon, Donate, Newsletter
In this special Bonus episode of the Forgotten America podcast, Amanda Kieffer, Communications Director for the Cardinal Institute for West Virginia hosts an episode focused on maternity care access in rural America and the role midwives play in caring for women.
Our guest this week is Beth Redden, a Certified Nurse Midwife from Southern West Virginia and fellow of the American College of Nurse Midwives. Amanda and Beth discuss who midwives are, what they do, and the regulations that impact maternity care, especially in rural America. Amanda also shares a few tidbits from her personal experience as a new mother who received midwifery care.
If you or someone you love is a mother, we hope you’ll listen to this episode and share it so that we can raise awareness of the regulatory burdens that are preventing women in America from receiving the quality care they need and deserve. Thanks for your support, and we hope you enjoy this special episode of Forgotten America!
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Stephanie Wissman is the Executive Director of API Pennsylvania, a division of the American Petroleum Institute. API’s mission is to promote safety and to influence public policy in support of a strong, viable U.S. oil and natural gas industry.
Stephanie joins Garrett to talk about domestic energy policy, wonder in awe at the marvel of modern fracking innovation, and dream of one day finally getting to see the Mountain Valley Pipeline in West Virginia.
All on this episode of Forgotten America.
@scwissman
https://www.api.org/
https://www.mountainvalleypipeline.info/
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As the founder of Baltimore Collegiate School for Boys, a public charter school, Jack Johnson Pannel aims to disrupt the status quo in education and design by building an effective model of teaching and learning for boys of color. As an impact social entrepreneur, he is expanding the Collegiate Model through a national network of schools. Jack joins Garrett on the podcast to talk about what makes an all boys school so different, and the massive impact that just a firm hanshake and a tie can have on these young men. On this episode of Forgotten America. Jack Johnson Pannell Founder, Baltimore Collegiate School for Boys @Lyncaeus ---------- Hosted by Garrett Ballengee Executive Director - @gballeng Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Executive Producer Amanda Kieffer Communications Director - @akieffer13 Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Produced & Edited by Tony Reed Associate Director of Operations - @treed1134 International Center for Law & Economics Follow: YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram Support: Patreon, Donate, Newsletter
Charlotte and Kenny Webb have dedicated their work to finding innovative solutions to help formerly incarcerated and recovering individuals gain access to resources and employment opportunities. Through their company, Charleston Property Restoration, they hire “fair-chance” employees and offer practical assistance through their nonprofit organization, Way Makers. In this episode, Charlotte and Kenny tell Garrett why they decided to form a nonprofit organization aimed at removing barriers to reentry, how to think about compassion vs consequence, and question the systematic Catch 22 making it more difficult for those on the road to recovery to reach their destination. Kenny Webb Owner, Charleston Property Restoration Charlotte Webb Director, Way Makers ---------- Hosted by Garrett Ballengee Executive Director - @gballeng Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Executive Producer Amanda Kieffer Communications Director - @akieffer13 Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Produced & Edited by Tony Reed Associate Director of Operations - @treed1134 International Center for Law & Economics Follow: YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram Support: Patreon, Donate, Newsletter
What do Sojourner Truth, Davy Crockett, Ichabod Crane, and a Cherokee river dragon have in common? They are all characters in John Hood’s second historical-fantasy novel, Forest Folk. John Hood is president of the John William Pope Foundation, a Raleigh-based grantmaker that supports public policy organizations, educational institutions, arts and cultural programs, and humanitarian relief in North Carolina and beyond. He is also a newspaper columnist, historian, and an author with a deep passion for both the American Founding and speculative fiction. In this episode, John joins Garrett for his second time as a guest of the podcast, to discuss his latest novel, Forest Folk, the perfect recipie for blending folklore and early American History, and ask the real Ichabod Crane to please stand up. All on this episode of Forgotten America. John Hood @JohnHoodNC Folklore Cycle Series Mountain Folk Forest Folk ---------- Hosted by Garrett Ballengee Executive Director - @gballeng Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Executive Producer Amanda Kieffer Communications Director - @akieffer13 Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy Produced & Edited by Tony Reed Associate Director of Operations - @treed1134 International Center for Law & Economics Follow: YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram Support: Patreon, Donate, Newsletter
Welcome back to the Forgotten America Podcast!
We are returning from a strategic pause in releasing new episodes in order to build up a robust catalog of episodes and add new content formats to the show. We have a lineup of fantastic guests and we're excited to share those conversations with you.
In this episode, Garrett goes solo as he reflects on the importance of exploring our roots as a way to find meaning and purpose in our lives. He discusses how those who came before us influence who we are today and shares his personal insight on the lessons we can learn from our ancestors. Making a personal connection with our predecessors can lead to a clearer understanding of our roles in today's society and help us know how to have a positive impact on the culture of tomorrow.
So let's take a look inward by taking a look backward, in this episode of Forgotten America.
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As you probably noticed, this episode is being released a week later than our usual schedule. Extensive traveling has made it difficult to schedule a guest interview while Garrett is on the road.
So we brought in Cardinal Institute's Jessi Troyan to do a deep dive with Garret on the current state of the US economy.
Jessi Troyan is the Director of Policy and Research for the Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy. Jessi was raised in Pinch, WV, about 20 minutes outside Charleston. She received her Ph.D. in economics from George Mason University with her dissertation covering the political economy of mining reclamation.
Jessi L. Troyan, PhD, @jltroyan_wv Director of Policy and Research Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy
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Garrett is joined by Brian Fencl, Professor of Art, and Director of the Nutting Gallery at West Liberty University.
This week, Garrett and Brian dive into some of the reasons visual arts are so important for fly-over country.
Are rural Americans portrayed fairly in art?
Should the government continue to support the arts?
Is it even possible to define what art is?
All coming up in this episode of Forgotten America.
Brian Fencl, @fenclstudio
https://westliberty.edu/media-visual-arts/faculty/brian-fencl/
Nutting Gallery at West Liberty University, https://westliberty.edu/media-visual-arts/gallery/
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Garrett is joined by Don Soifer, President of Nevada Action for School Options, a nonpartisan “action tank” he founded in 2017 to support the growth of diverse choices of rich, high-quality, and personalized educational opportunities for all students.
This week, Garrett and Don discuss his approach to alternative education, including microschools, learning pods, and hybrid learning, along with some of the challenges facing the School Choice movement.
Don Soifer @donsoifer
Nevada Action for School Options
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Garrett is joined by Paul Gessing, President of the Rio Grande Foundation, an organization dedicated to increasing liberty and prosperity for New Mexico citizens by promoting individual freedom, limited government, and economic opportunity. This week, Garrett and Paul discuss the many economic and social issues currently facing New Mexico and how leaders at the state and local levels are picking up the slack left by the federal government.
Paul Gessing, @pgessing
Rio Grande Foundation, https://riograndefoundation.org/
https://errorsofenchantment.com/
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Garrett is joined by Justin (Gus) Hurwitz, Professor at Nebraska College of Law and the Director of Law & Economic Programs at the International Center for Law & Economics. Gus's work builds on his background in law, technology, and economics to consider the interface between law and technology and the role of regulation in high-tech industries.
In this week's episode, Garrett and Gus discuss the logistical, political, and philosophical questions surrounding broadband in rural America.
Gus Hurwitz @gushurwitz https://law.unl.edu/justin-gus-hurwitz/
Tech Refactored Podcast https://ngtc.unl.edu/techrefactored
Nebraska Law | Bringing Broadband to Rural America https://mediahub.unl.edu/media/14151
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Garrett is joined today by Garris Stroud, Founder and Chief Editor of Rural Ed Voices, an organization seeking to elevate the conversation on education opportunities in rural areas and small cities.
In this week's episode, Garrett and Garris discuss colleges of education, school choice, and the role that schools in rural America play in shaping the landscape of opportunity for students. Garris Stroud @garrisstroud Rural Ed Voices https://ruraledvoices.org/ @RuralEdVoices
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This week's episode is hosted by Cardinal Institute's Development Director, Jessi Troyan. Jessi is joined by Keliʻi Akina, President and CEO of the Grassroot Institute of Hawaii. The Grassroot Institute is a nonprofit policy research organization focusing on the values of individual liberty, economic freedom, and accountable government. In this episode, Jessi and Keliʻi discuss the Jones Act, how pandemic lockdowns affected Hawaii's economy, and creating practical change and a better society in the spirit of “E hana kākou” (Let’s work together).
Grassroot Institute of Hawaii https://grassrootinstitute.org/
Grassroot Institute video primer on the Jones Act, here.
Watch Keli’i Akina at the West Maui Taxpayers Association annual meeting discussing how to create a more robust healthcare system on Maui, here.
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Greg Clutter is the director of Foster Care Initiatives at Chestnut Mountain Ranch, a Christ-centered home and school. They reach the hearts of young men and restore broken families through a structured loving community. Their vision is to restore hope to children and families. He shares the history of the community and how it came to be located in Morgantown, West Virginia.
Greg also discusses the role of religious communities in foster care and family welfare work, emphasizing the importance of having a strong "why" and a sense of purpose.
Chestnut Mountain Ranch https://cmrwv.org/
Chestnut Mountain Village https://cmvwv.org/
Read more about the foster care crisis in West Virginia: https://cmvwv.org/the-west-virginia-foster-care-crisis/
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Garrett is joined today by Shawn Peterson from Catholic Education Partners and Jill Annable with the National Catholic Education Association to discuss the Roman Catholic Church’s stance on education and the role Catholic education plays in the greater education environment, especially in rural communities. They explore the history of Catholic education in the United States and also discuss how the role of Catholic education has evolved overtime in the lives of Catholic families as school choice options expand in many states.
https://www.ncea.org/
https://catholiced.us/
Learn more about Catholic microschools: https://www.ncea.org/Store/detail.aspx?id=ADM-31-1629
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Ben Stiegelmeier shares stories from his life growing up farming and ranching in Selby, South Dakota where he, alongside his family, carried on his father’s legacy in production agriculture. He describes his German-Russian heritage and the German culture that is still prevalent in his area of the Dakotas. He reflects on the somewhat insular nature of the community he grew up in and also on the beauty of the community ties - ties that he sees changing as modern life makes it less necessary to rely on neighbors. Ben also discusses his transition to life as an auctioneer and the joy he has found in the ability to help people meet their needs. He explores some of the variation in the auction trade and how it has evolved over time. Finally, Ben & Garrett also discuss their love for old country music, especially the way it captures the beauty of the simplicity of life and finding meaning in the mundane.
Selby, South Dakota: https://selbysd.govoffice2.com/
The history of Germans in Russia and their migration to the U.S. https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/9c621b68d337472187571d9e413ada12
Low-German: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_German
Peach Kuchen recipe: https://www.farmersalmanac.com/what-the-heck-is-kuchen-22786
Learn more about combines and other farming equipment: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combine_harvester
Witness by Whittaker Chambers: https://www.amazon.com/Witness-Cold-Classics-Whittaker-Chambers/dp/162157296X/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1MSVYZZEYYS3G&keywords=witness+by+whittaker+chambers&qid=1642120353&sprefix=witness+by+w%2Caps%2C117&sr=8-1
The Auctioneer by Leroy Van Dyke: https://genius.com/Leroy-van-dyke-auctioneer-lyrics
National Auctioneers Association: https://www.auctioneers.org/
Reserve Price: https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/reserve-price.asp#:~:text=Common%20to%20auctions%2C%20a%20reserve,accept%20as%20the%20winning%20bid.&text=The%20reserve%20price%20prevents%20a,accept%20from%20winning%20the%20auction.
Kendall Cotton, President of the Frontier Institute in Montana, joins us today to discuss health care and certificate of need laws. Today’s episode is a little more wonky, and dives into the impacts of these CON laws on rural America. Kendall shares how Montana reformed them to improve the health care system in their state and what we can learn from their example. Garrett & Kendall also talk about other types of CON laws outside of healthcare and how difficult it can be to find people willing to speak out against those in power who benefit from these laws.
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A strategic consultant, political maven, & social entrepreneur based in the Washington, DC area, Rina Shah has been nationally-recognized as an astute businesswoman with a strong streak of political activism. Prior to relocating to northern Virginia, she grew up in Beckley, West Virginia and attended West Virginia University as a college student. She shares with Garrett her experiences as the daughter of immigrants living in West Virginia, what it’s like being a representative of West Virginia to the rest of the world, what role stigmas have played in her life, and some of the interesting contradictions that make up her identity.
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You can get in touch with her about her work at her website https://www.runwithrina.com/
You can learn more about Jainism by reading this article on Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jainism
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Today Garrett is joined on the Forgotten America podcast by Naomi Schaefer Riley, a resident fellow at the American Enterprise Institute focusing on issues regarding child welfare as well as a senior fellow at the Independent Women’s Forum. She joins us to discuss her new book, No Way to Treat A Child: How the Foster Care System, Family Courts, and Racial Activists Are Wrecking Young Lives. She discusses the lack of a conservative presence in the conversation surrounding foster care policy, why the system is so broken, and her recommendations for how conservatives can engage in ways that are beneficial to children.
Purchase the book, No Way to Treat a Child, on Amazon.
Learn more about the American Enterprise Institute at www.aei.org.
Follow Naomi’s work, including her other books on family policy and child-welfare, at https://www.naomiriley.com/naomi-schaefer-riley/
You can read more about child abuse statistics mentioned in this episode here. https://www.statista.com/topics/5910/child-abuse-in-the-united-states/#:~:text=Around%20158%2C900%20children%20ages%20two,from%20child%20abuse%20or%20maltreatment.
Wikipedia has a great article explaining the philosophy of family preservation if you want to learn more about it and the role it plays in current foster care policies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_preservation#:~:text=Family%20preservation%20was%20the%20movement,children%20out%20of%20unfit%20homes.
The Annie E. Casey Foundation https://www.aecf.org/topics/foster-care
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Today Nolan Gray joins Garrett to discuss how principles of market urbanism and regional planning can be applied to rural America and small towns. Nolan is originally from Lexington, KY and is studying to receive his PhD in Urban Planning at UCLA. He is also one of the co-authors of the Cardinal Institute’s recent paper entitled Homegrown Revival: Removing Barriers to Home Based Entrepreneurship in West Virginia. Nolan shares the importance of building an echo system of entrepreneurs rather than relying on corporate welfare and explains the role local power can have in creating a brighter future for rural American towns.
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Read our paper on home based business regulations in West Virginia
Nolan Gray & Olivia Gonzalez have authored another paper on home based business regulations with the Center for Growth & Opportunity at Utah State
Books on the topic recommended by Nolan:
Death & Life of Great American Cities by Jane Jacobs
Triumph of the City: How Our Greatest Invention Makes Us Richer, Smarter, Greener, Healthier, and Happier by Edward Glaeser
The Use of Knowledge in Society by Friedrich A. Hayek
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Gordon Tomb is a senior fellow with the Commonwealth Foundation in Harrisburg, PA, a free-market think tank focused on Pennsylvania state policy and a senior advisor with the CO2 Coalition founded with the purpose offor the purpose of educating thought leaders, policy makers, and the public about the important contribution made by carbon dioxide to our lives and the economy. Gordon joins Garrett today to discuss climate change, energy policy, and rural America.
Follow Gordon’s work at the Commonwealth Foundation.
Learn more about the CO2 Coalition.
The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels by Alex Epstein https://www.amazon.com/Moral-Case-Fossil-Fuels/dp/1591847443/ref=sr_1_1?crid=374QE166TQOQ6&keywords=the+moral+case+for+fossil+fuels&qid=1636120357&qsid=146-9753540-0151901&s=books&sprefix=the+moral+case+for%2Caps%2C224&sr=1-1&sres=1591847443%2CB07KCL46RN%2CB0178R9CWO%2CB00KY9PFMK%2C0593084101%2C0593420411%2C0262035774%2C1545614105%2C1732687900%2C0989344800%2CB07VLPD7ZT%2C1949673162%2CB07PN5N9K2%2C1594206430%2CB08T6FFY6S%2C0300234481&srpt=ABIS_BOOK
Inconvenient Facts: The science Al Gore doesn’t want you to know by Gregory Wrightstone https://www.amazon.com/Inconvenient-Facts-science-that-doesnt/dp/1545614105/ref=sr_1_2?crid=XZUPOW49ZDAK&keywords=inconvenient+facts+gregory+wrightstone&qid=1636401807&qsid=146-9753540-0151901&s=books&sprefix=inconvenient+facts+%2Cstripbooks%2C180&sr=1-2&sres=1545614105%2CB092FM1LG9%2C197390845X%2C1945181478%2C0986398306%2C1621576760%2C1984371401%2C0393540871%2C1630061476%2C0986420190%2C1731015208%2C1594865671%2C0670062723%2C1985611376&srpt=ABIS_BOOK
H.L. Menchken https://www.britannica.com/biography/H-L-Mencken
Mark P. Mills with the Manhattan Institute https://www.manhattan-institute.org/expert/mark-p-mills
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James Franko, President of the Kansas Policy Institute, joins Garrett to explore the Sunflower State. Garrett & James discuss everything from the appropriate degree of doneness for a steak to Kansas tax reform. We learn that even flat Kansas has elevations to rival the Mountain State, and we dive into local Swedish art, the demographics of Kansas, increasing mechanization’s impacts on the local economy, and Trump’s legacy in the Great Plains.
Read about the history of “Bleeding Kansas” https://www.history.com/topics/19th-century/bleeding-kansas#:~:text=Bleeding%20Kansas%20describes%20the%20period,killed%20between%201855%20and%201859.
What’s the Matter with Kansas? https://www.amazon.com/Whats-Matter-Kansas-Conservatives-America/dp/080507774X/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=what%27s+the+matter+with+kansas&qid=1635188011&sprefix=what%27s+the+matter+with%2Caps%2C125&sr=8-1
What Was Really the Matter with the Kansas Tax Plan? https://www.amazon.com/What-Really-Matter-Kansas-Plan/dp/0898031826/ref=sr_1_1?crid=4RV8403XNMPF&dchild=1&keywords=what%27s+really+the+matter+with+kansas&qid=1635188040&sprefix=what%27s+really+the+matter+with+kansas%2Caps%2C114&sr=8-1
Visit Mount Sunflower https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Sunflower
Explore the Flint Hills of Kansas https://www.flinthillsdiscovery.org/594/What-are-the-Flint-Hills
Learn more about Kansas and taxation and spending statistics through KPI’s Green Book! https://kansaspolicy.org/tag/2021-green-book/
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Peter J. Hill is Professor of Economics Emeritus at Wheaton College and a Senior Fellow at the Property and Environment Research Center in Bozeman, Montana, where he currently resides. He joins Garrett on Forgotten America to discuss free-market environmentalism (FME) and the property rights framework he uses to evaluate conservation issues. P.J. also gives us a look back into the truth about the Wild West and whether or not it was really all that wild.
Follow P.J.’s work and the work of PERC at https://www.perc.org/
Rachel Carson’s Silent Spring: http://www.rachelcarson.org/SilentSpring.aspx
Learn more about the economist Ronald Coase: https://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/bios/Coase.html
Read about Terry Anderson at PERC: https://www.perc.org/people/terry-anderson-2/
You can buy the book Free Market Environmentalism for the Next Generation on Amazon.
Edward Abbey was originally discussed in Ep. 021.
The Not So Wild, Wild West by Terry Anderson & P.J. Hill
The Foundation for Economic Education teaches about the Knowledge Problem.
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Our newest team member, Andrew Bambrick, joins Garrett to discuss his home state of New Jersey and what it was like growing up in the small town of Hammonton in southern New Jersey. He tackles stereotypes that come from shows like the Sopranos and Jersey Shore, talks about the cultural and political differences between north and south New Jersey, and he shares why he loved growing up in the Garden State.
Go visit Hammonton, New Jersey for their Blueberry Festival! https://www.hammontonnj.us/red-white-blueberry-festival
Jersey Shore is so much more than the show makes it out to be. http://www.newjerseyshore.com/
The Sopranos: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sopranos
Jersey Shore: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1563069/
Andrew’s favorite diner in Hammonton: https://www.silvercoindiner.net/
Saltwater Taffy originated in Atlantic City, NJ: https://www.britannica.com/topic/salt-water-taffy
The Pine Barrens are a great example of the natural beauty of New Jersey: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Barrens_(New_Jersey)
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The opioid crisis is back in the news with the death of actor Michael K. Williams. West Virginia is even suing Purdue Pharma over its role in the opioid crisis. However, today’s guest, Jacob Rich, a drug, tobacco, and healthcare analyst with the Reason Foundation and Senior Contributor with Young Voices, says that the majority of the blame should be placed on the government. Join Garrett & Jacob for today’s episode of Forgotten America as they discuss the history of the opioid crisis, government’s role in exacerbating it, policies that can alleviate the crisis, and predictions about the future.
You can follow Jacob on Twitter at @jacobjamesrich
You can read his research at reason.com - here is his article on medication assisted therapies (MAT) and current federal policy https://reason.com/2021/02/02/biden-restores-a-barrier-to-opioid-addiction-treatment/
Statistics on the opioid crisis from the CDC https://www.cdc.gov/drugoverdose/deaths/index.html
Substance Abuse and Mental Health Administration’s guidelines on MAT https://www.samhsa.gov/medication-assisted-treatment/practitioner-resources/faqs
Prescription Drug Monitoring Programs: Effects on Opioid Prescribing and Drug Overdose Mortality by Jacob Rich and Robert Capodilupo
https://reason.org/policy-study/prescription-drug-monitoring-programs-effects-on-opioid-prescribing-and-drug-overdose-mortality/
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Jessi Troyan and Jessica Dobrinsky from team Cardinal take over the Forgotten America podcast this week. They chat about why they chose to stay in West Virginia, how Jessica transformed from an avid Bernie supporter to a leading young voice for conservatives in West Virginia, their mutual love/hate relationships with Pittsburgh, and their perspectives on West Virginia culture.
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Many people think that all of West Virginia is coal country, but that simply isn’t true. Garrett joins his wife, Kimberly, on this episode of Forgotten America to discuss life in the southern coalfields, how her upbringing was different from his in the Mid-Ohio Valley, the strength of the Appalachian woman, and the future of West Virginia.
You can learn about the various regions in West Virginia and their differences in this article by West Virginia Executive Magazine. http://www.wvexecutive.com/local-challenges-unique-opportunities/
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John Charles Jr is the President & CEO of the Cascade Policy Institute in Portland, Oregon. In this episode, we learn about his journey from Marxist environmental activist to leader in the free-market environmentalist movement. He and Garrett also discuss land use policy and how it affects individuals and economies. This is one of those policies that the average person doesn’t know much about but that massively affects everyone’s lives. This episode covers everything from zoning to lite rail to urban sprawl to the housing crisis. Listen in and tell your friends all about land use policy and how it’s making their lives more expensive and difficult.
The Property & Environment Research Center (PERC) - formerly known as the Political Economy Research Center - based in Montana https://www.perc.org/
Cascade Policy Institute - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascade_Policy_Institute
You can learn more about the Smart Growth movement at https://smartgrowthamerica.org/our-vision/what-is-smart-growth/
Patrick Moore - past president of Greenpeace https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Moore_(consultant)
Bjorn Lomborg - author of The Skeptical Environmentalist - https://www.lomborg.com/skeptical-environmentalist
Read more about Performance Based Zoning - https://www.bdcnetwork.com/performance-based-zoning-us-cities-starting-loosen-zoning-regulations
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Robert Graboyes, a healthcare economist for the Mercatus Center at George Mason University, joins Garrett today to discuss the health care system in America. He talks about its purpose, why it’s broken, how being a doctor is similar to and different from being a pilot, and the high stakes of getting it right. They also discuss such topics as innovation in health care, which level of government should be responsible for health care regulation and reform, and the history and effects of certificate of need laws. If you are constantly frustrated by American health care, this is the episode for you.
Mercatus Center at George Mason University - www.mercatus.org
Twitter - @robert_graboyes
Read Fortress and Frontier in American Health Care - https://www.mercatus.org/publications/healthcare/fortress-and-frontier-american-health-care
The Dubious Case for Professional Licensing by Uwe Reinhardt - https://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/11/the-dubious-case-for-professional-licensing/
You can buy a copy of David Goldhill’s Catastrophic Care on Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/Catastrophic-Care-Everything-Think-Health/dp/034580273X/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=catastrophic+care&qid=1626714092&sr=8-2
Washington Post: “7 experts try to answer who has the world’s best health-care system” https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/17/best-health-care-systems-world/
Robert also hosts his own podcast called Fortress and Frontier. You can listen to his episode with Dr. Devi Shetty here. https://www.mercatus.org/podcasts/06042021/fortress-and-frontier-narayana-system-and-innovations-healthcare
Learn more about the Healthcare Openness and Access Project on Mercatus’ website. https://www.mercatus.org/publications/healthcare/healthcare-openness-and-access-project-2020-full-release
Find more information on the Night Scout project at http://www.nightscout.info/
Read more about how certificate of need laws led to an infant’s death in Virginia https://reason.com/2017/01/25/virginia-certificate-of-need-hospital/
John Goodman Priceless https://www.amazon.com/Priceless-Healthcare-Independent-Studies-Political/dp/1598130838/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=priceless+john+goodman&qid=1626738493&sr=8-1
The Creative Destruction of Medicine by Eric Topol https://www.amazon.com/Creative-Destruction-Medicine-Digital-Revolution/dp/0465061834/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=eric+topol&qid=1626738540&sr=8-5
The Patient Will See You Now by Eric Topol https://www.amazon.com/Patient-Will-See-You-Now/dp/0465040020/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=eric+topol&qid=1626738638&sr=8-4
Deep Medicine by Eric Topol https://www.amazon.com/Deep-Medicine-Artificial-Intelligence-Healthcare/dp/1541644638/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=eric+topol&qid=1626738638&sr=8-3
The Innovator’s Prescription by Christensen, Grossman, and Mwang https://www.amazon.com/Innovators-Prescription-Disruptive-Solution-Health/dp/1259860868/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=grossman+healthcare+book&qid=1626738819&sr=8-3
This week, Jason Huffman, state director of Americans for Prosperity - West Virginia, joins us for a second time on Forgotten America. He and Garrett discuss new legislation bringing transformational change to the Mountain State as well as thoughts on how to combat political polarization and why more engaged citizens are needed in state politics today.
If you want to follow Jason’s work at Americans for Prosperity - West Virginia, you can follow them on
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You can read more about their policy proposals for making West Virginia a better place to live, work, and raise a family https://americansforprosperity.org/state/west-virginia/
You can listen to Jason’s previous episode on Forgotten America - Ep. 002: Coal Miner’s Son.
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Dr. Abigail Hall Blanco is an Associate Professor in Economics at Bellarmine University. She received her PhD in Economics from George Mason University in Fairfax, Virginia. She is a co-author of the books Manufacturing Militarism: US Government Propaganda in the War on Terror and Tyranny Comes Home: The Domestic Fate of U.S. Militarism both with Christopher Coyne. Today she joins Garrett to discuss development economics, why regions like Appalachia are still so poor, and what solutions economists have for poverty and economic growth.
Visit her website here: https://www.abigailrhall.com/
Learn more about Bill Easterly: https://www.williameasterly.org/
Learn more about Jeff Sachs: https://www.jeffsachs.org/
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JD Tuccille is a self-proclaimed anarchist living in the desert of Arizona. He is an author for Reason magazine and a novelist. He believes in personal responsibility and loves the freedom of the American Southwest. He joins Garrett to discuss how he came to be in Arizona and why, for him, the deserts of Arizona are the truest manifestation of a freedom philosophy. Garrett & JD also dive into the relationship between libertarianism and rural America, environmentalism & anarchy in fiction, and the joys of canning food.
You can see pictures and read all about the javelina at the Arizona-Sonora Desert Museum’s website.
Want to learn more about canning? The University of Georgia can help you out! https://extension.uga.edu/topic-areas/food-health/food-preservation.html
Who is Edward Abbey? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Abbey
Who is Hunter S. Thompson? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_S._Thompson
Everett Ruess - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everett_Ruess
Everett Ruess song by Dave Alvin - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6W25W6c4pY&ab_channel=davealvinofficial
You can buy Education of a Wandering Man by Louis L’Amour on Amazon.https://www.amazon.com/Education-Wandering-Man-Louis-LAmour/dp/0553286528
High Desert Barbecue can be found on Amazon.com in the Books section.
City Mice Go Country by J.D. Tuccille can be read at https://reason.com/2020/08/15/city-mice-go-country/
One of our Forgotten America podcasts was inspired by J.D.’s article and the flight of urbanites to rural areas during the pandemic. You can listen to it here, and hear Adam’s story of why he left Washington, D.C. for Charleston, WV.
Follow him on Twitter @jd_tuccille
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In honor of the release of John Hood’s book, Mountain Folk, on June 8th, we are re-releasing our Patrons only Halloween Bonus episode that we recorded with him back in October for all of our listeners to enjoy. Don’t forget to pre-order a copy of John’s book on Amazon and sign up for his Mountain Folk Readers’ Guild newsletter so you can keep up to date with information on new upcoming books in the FolkLore cycle.
John Hood is a newspaper columnist, historian, and foundation executive with a deep passion for both the American Founding and speculative fiction. The author of critically acclaimed books of economic and political history, Hood has reported on governments from town councils to Congress and written for the Wall Street Journal, Military History, and dozens of other publications. Today he joins Garrett to discuss his upcoming novel, Mountain Folk, folklore across a variety of cultures, conspiracy theories, cryptids, and more!
You can learn more about John Hood, meet the characters of Mountain Folk, and sign up for the Readers Guild at mountainfolkbook.com.
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Join Garrett as he interviews Luke Huffman and Brandon Dennison from Coalfield Development about the work they’re doing in their southern, West Virginia community to eliminate generational poverty. Located in Wayne, WV, their team is rebuilding the Appalachian economy from the ground up. Coalfield Development believes in developing the potential of Appalachia through the triple bottom line: people, planet, and profit.
Visit Coalfield Development’s website to learn more about the programs they offer. https://coalfield-development.org/
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Montana is affectionately known by those that live there as the “Last Best Place On Earth.” Today Garrett is joined by Kendall Cotton, the President & CEO of the Frontier Institute. Kendall developed his passion for serving his community while growing up in Florence, Montana along the banks of the Bitterroot River. In this episode, he guides us through the best places in the state to visit if you want to enjoy pristine nature. He also dives into some of the challenges that face Montana as a uniquely large state with a small population and the solutions that the Frontier Institute is developing to address those challenges. If you love nature and wide open spaces, Montana might just be the place you ought to visit next.
The Frontier Institute works hard to help Montanans prosper and maintain what makes their home state unique. You can learn more about their core principles and the work they do on their website. https://frontierinstitute.org/about/
You can read more of the English philosopher Roger Scruton’s work on his website: https://www.roger-scruton.com/
You can visit or support the Bob Marshall Wilderness https://www.bmwf.org/
Espinosa v. Montana SCOTUS case about tax-credit scholarships https://www.oyez.org/cases/2019/18-1195
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Tim Barto is the Vice President of External Relations at Alaska Policy Forum. Tim is a retired Defense Department Special Agent, having worked in the field of personnel security. He also spent time as a Marine infantryman and Naval intelligence specialist, all of which was aimed at preserving and promoting the values of economic freedom and individual liberty. He joins us today to talk about Alaskan politics and culture as well as his outlook for the future of the state.
Learn more about Tim’s work here https://alaskapolicyforum.org/
The Buckner Building: https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/buckner-building-2
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Vance Ginn, Ph.D., is chief economist at the Texas Public Policy Foundation. He earned his doctorate in economics at Texas Tech University and has an accomplished career as a policy director and university lecturer with experience in public policy, academia, and government. He joins us today to talk about the growth of Texas as it continues to evolve to face the future while holding onto the character traits that make it a unique place to live.
Read Why Nations Fail by Daron Acemoglu & James A. Robinson
“The Liberty Action Agenda is a set of critical reforms that must be made to promote and defend liberty, personal responsibility, and free enterprise in Texas. To ensure the flourishing of Texans during the next quarter-century, we must work now toward these bold policy proposals that embody the Texas ideal. ”
You can read Vance’s work at the Texas Public Policy Foundation on their commentary website: https://thecannononline.com/commentaries/?experts=vance-ginn-ph-d
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Jack LaPant, a farmer, lost over a million dollars in an 8-year legal battle because the Army arbitrarily enforced an environmental law it had no authority to enforce.
His huge loss is bad enough but why in the world is the Army even regulating agriculture in the first place?
This week we have Tony Francois from the Pacific Legal Foundation talking to us about the intersection between agriculture and government. He shares his experiences as a veteran who was in West Germany during the fall of the Berlin wall and how that led him to his current role fighting against central planning and government overreach as a public interest lawyer. He also shares with us the story of Jack’s years long, frankly Orwellian, legal battle with the Army Corps of Engineers over his farmland in northern California.
Read Jack’s story here: https://pacificlegal.org/why-is-the-army-regulating-farms/
You can read Tony’s bio here: https://pacificlegal.org/staff/tony-francois/
Learn more about the Pacific Legal Foundation’s work on their website. https://pacificlegal.org/
You can read Tony’s article in The Hill about the Army Corps of Engineers here: https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-environment/479799-the-army-corps-of-engineers-has-become-a-rogue-agency
Learn more about Administrative Law from the Federalist Society’s No. 86 project.
You can also buy Phillip Hamburger’s book, Is the Administrative State Unlawful on Amazon?
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Is your only cultural reference to the Sooner state the old Rogers and Hammerstein musical, Oklahoma!? Or maybe you’re a sports fan and you’re familiar with the Oklahoma City Thunder basketball team. Today, Trent England Executive Director of Save Our States and fellow at Oklahoma Council of Public Affairs discusses his journey to living in Oklahoma, the culture and politics of the state, a little bit of history, and takes a dive into what makes Oklahoma unique. Whether you know nothing about Oklahoma or it’s your favorite state in the union, this is an episode you won’t want to miss.
You can learn more about Trent’s work to save the Electoral College at https://saveourstates.com/
You can also keep up with him through his work at the Oklahoma Council of Public Affairs
American Nations: A History of the Eleven Rival Regional Cultures of North America by Colin Woodard
Curious who the Five Civilized Tribes were? Encyclopedia Britannica can help!
The Samuel Roberts Noble Foundation supports smarter agriculture practices
Plan your next vacation to the Cowboy and Western Heritage Museum!
August Metcalfe’s art and history can be found at http://www.metcalfemuseum.org/
Kevin Williamson discusses his new book, Big White Ghetto: Dead Broke, Stone-Cold Stupid, and High on Rage in the Dank Woolly Wilds of the "Real America.” He shares with Garrett what he’s learned as a roving journalist for the National Review about poor, rural America. He also discusses the interesting ways people talk about events that have happened in their lives and their roles in those events. Ultimately, Kevin forces us to ask ourselves the hard questions about communities in rural America that are falling apart: “Should we stay or should we go?” And if that isn’t enough of a teaser to get you to listen to this episode, well dear listeners, I never thought I’d say this on Forgotten America, but Kevin and Garrett also discuss porn. So join us for this special episode of Forgotten America with journalist and author Kevin Williamson if you want to know what Owsley County, KY, the Adult Video Awards in Las Vegas, and the casinos of Atlantic City all have in common. And, don’t forget to leave us a review on your favorite podcast listening app, so we can reach more people with interesting stories, conversations, and research about America from the hilltops to the hollers and the desert to the delta.
You can read the article that inspired this episode and Kevin’s latest book on the National Review’s website. https://www.nationalreview.com/2013/12/white-ghetto-kevin-d-williamson/
You can buy a copy of Kevin’s book, Big White Ghetto, on Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/Big-White-Ghetto-Stone-Cold-America/dp/1621579697
You can learn more about Owsley County, KY on Wikipedia. https://www.amazon.com/Big-White-Ghetto-Stone-Cold-America/dp/1621579697
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Taylor Dawson and Mark Cunningham are empowering Tennesseans to reclaim control of their lives as a communications team at the Beacon Center for Tennessee based in Nashville. They join Garrett today to discuss culture and politics in Tennessee and share their perspectives as transplants from Alabama and Washington, D.C. to the Volunteer State. They also talk about the forgotten Tennesseans who are often overshadowed by Nashville’s growth, why both of them have fallen in love with the state, and what other states in the region can learn from Tennessee’s rising prosperity.
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Alex Brill is a resident fellow at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), where he studies the impact of tax policy on the US economy as well as the fiscal, economic, and political consequences of tax, budget, health care, retirement security, and trade policies. He also works on health care reform, pharmaceutical spending and drug innovation, and unemployment insurance reform. Today he joins Garrett to discuss the economic impacts of the opioid crisis on Forgotten America, and he shares with us that this epidemic isn’t just an Appalachian problem.
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Emma Ayers, Managing Opinion Editor at Young Voices and native of northeast Tennessee, joins Garrett on today’s episode to talk about the importance of tradition and religion in Appalachian culture. Together, they also explore the importance of meaningful work to the future prosperity of the Appalachian region, share the history of the mysterious Melungeons of Appalachia, and discuss possible solutions to the region’s woes.
You can learn more about Melungeons from this article in USA Today.
Recommended Books in this episode:
Spirit of the Mountains by Emma Bell Miles
Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry into Values by Robert M. Pirsig
Shop Class as Soulcraft by Matthew B. Crawford
Alienated America: Why Some Places Thrive While Others Collapse by Timothy Carney
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Casey Pifer is the Director of Institute Relations for the Atlas Network, a nonprofit organization connecting a global network of more than 475 free-market organizations in over 90 countries to the ideas and resources needed to advance the cause of liberty. She’s also a native West Virginian. Today she joins Garrett on the Forgotten America podcast to talk about the commonalities between our work in West Virginia and hers in an international context, wild horses in Montana, Big Game in Africa, and street vendors in India and how everyone, no matter where they are in the world, is ultimately dealing with the same sorts of challenges and are searching for solutions that affirm their human dignity.
You can learn more about Casey Pifer and her work with the Atlas Network at https://www.atlasnetwork.org/about/people/casey-pifer
Organizations mentioned during this episode:
Centre for Development Great Lakes - Burundi
Centre for Civil Society - India
Property & Environment Research Center - Montana, USA
Atlas Network - Virginia, USA
William “Bill” Easterly - you can read about his career, research, and books at http://www.williameasterly.org/
A great resource for Hayek’s Knowledge Problem is found at the Foundation for Economic Education
Never heard of the Communist state of Kerala, India? Wikipedia has a good description to familiarize yourself with it.
Bradley Foster is the newest member of our team at the Cardinal Institute - joining us as our Community Engagement Associate. Similar to many mountaineers, his family has ties to mining, but instead of coal, Bradley’s family mined iron in Minnesota. Garrett invited Bradley onto the podcast today to share his experiences growing up in Minnesota, going to college in Fargo, North Dakota, the similarities and differences he’s noticed between the Mountain State and the Land of 10,000 Lakes, and what his experience has been like so far adjusting to life in Charleston, West Virginia.
You can listen to Bob Dylan’s song North Country Blues on YouTube.
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Joshua & Jared Crenshaw are brothers from Massachusetts who moved to Louisville, Kentucky to found the Pegasus Institute, a free market, state policy think tank. In this episode, Garrett speaks with them about their experience moving from the Bay State to the Bluegrass State, cultural misunderstandings about Kentucky, the New South, and a variety of reforms they believe will make Kentucky a beacon of prosperity.
Get to know more about Pegasus’ work in Kentucky on their website: https://www.pegasuskentucky.org/
Amy McGrath interview with Samantha Bee on Full Frontal about her campaign against Mitch McConnell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=n-2Tnmxo9EY&ab_channel=FullFrontalwithSamanthaBee
You can also read Dignity by Chris Arnade as mentioned in this episode.
You can also learn more about the Volunteers of America: Mid-States and the work they’re doing by clicking on this link.
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Anthony Hennen is a native of southeastern Ohio and the Managing Editor at the James G. Martin Center for Academic Renewal. In 2018, he joined with several other friends and Ohio university alumni to found the independent journalism website, Expatalachians. Anthony joins Garrett on today’s episode to discuss the future of regional journalism, cultural diversity in Appalachia, J.D. Vance’s controversial book Hillbilly Elegy, and life as an expatalachian.
You can keep up with independent, Appalachian journalism by following Expatalachians. You can support their project on Patreon.
If you like to support independent journalism in West Virginia, you can follow Mountain State Spotlight.
If you’re interested in journalism focused on the American South, you can follow Southerly.
You can also follow Anthony’s work at the James G. Martin Center for Academic Renewal.
Other mentions from this episode:
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Adam Kissel has made a career of helping others and advocating for liberty. He supported civic literacy with the Intercollegiate Studies Institute, fundamental rights at the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education, and philanthropy at the Charles Koch Foundation (CKF) and The Philanthropy Roundtable (TPR). He has even spent time as the deputy assistant secretary for higher education programs at the U.S. Department of Education overseeing a $2 billion loan portfolio. At the beginning of the coronavirus pandemic, Adam re-evaluated his priorities and decided that he no longer wanted to live in Washington, D.C. and opted to make a change. Adam is excited to be a new resident of Charleston, West Virginia and to be part of the Cardinal’s Institute’s team advancing liberty and opportunity across the state as a senior fellow. In today’s episode, Garrett interviews Adam about his decision to leave the city mouse life behind.
Special Cameo by Frank, Adam’s chocolate lab.
You can read Adam’s article in Reason Magazine: It’s Time to Leave Your City. Come to West Virginia With Me.
If you aren’t already familiar with the children’s story, The City Mouse and the Country Mouse, you can watch a cartoon version of it here.
You can learn more about Adam Kissel and his work on the Cardinal Institute’s website.
You can also read the article Adam mentioned entitled Goodbye, Washington DC., in Human Events.
City Mice Go Country by J.D. Tuccille in Reason Magazine mentioned by Garrett.
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Have you ever been curious about the intersection between free-market policy and urban issues? Do you wonder if rural America and urban America have anything in common? Today, we dive deep into the Jagged Heart of Appalachia as Garrett interviews Scott Beyer, the founder of Market Urbanism Report. He shares with us how he became interested in this region of the country and what he has learned about urbanism in a predominantly rural area like Appalachia. In this episode, we tackle the difficult issues of defining Appalachian culture, challenges like generational poverty and the opioid epidemic, and the unique way urbanism takes shape in the mountains of West Virginia, Eastern Kentucky, and Southwestern Virginia.
You can join the conversation about Market Urbanism on Facebook:
Market Urbanism Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/marketurbanismreport/
You can also keep up with Scott’s Work at Market Urbanism Report online:
Twitter: @sbcrosscountry
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Website: https://marketurbanismreport.com/
Scott’s Catalyst article about Appalachia and Tourism: https://catalyst.independent.org/2020/07/26/almost-heaven-appalachia/
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This week Garrett interviews Andrew Campanella, President of National School Choice Week about his new book The School Choice Roadmap: 7 Steps to Finding the Right School for Your Child. In this episode, Andrew tells us why he wrote the book, what he thinks about the school choice debates raging across the country, and his experiences helping students, parents, and teachers find the education environment in which they will thrive. If you think children’s futures shouldn’t be determined by their zip-code, then this is the episode for you!
You can buy Andrew’s book on Amazon.
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Website: https://schoolchoiceweek.com/
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In today’s episode, Garrett interviews Jason Huffman, the State Director of Americans for Prosperity - West Virginia and a native West Virginian. Jason shares with us stories about his family’s proud heritage as coal-miners, why he decided to stay in West Virginia, and what he thinks it will take to build the West Virginia Miracle.
You can follow Jason's work with AFP-WV on:
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You can read more about their policy proposals for making West Virginia a better place to live, work, and raise a family at https://americansforprosperity.org/state/west-virginia/
You can learn about the historic Sago Mine Disaster Jason mentioned.
You can read Garrett's op-ed about Katherine Johnson in the Logan Banner.
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In this first episode, you’ll meet the Cardinal Institute team, learn what we mean by the phrase Forgotten America, and get a peek into what you can expect from the Forgotten America podcast.
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