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Central Christian Church of Arizona
Welcome to the Beyond the Lines Podcast. In a world where there are a few loud voices spreading division and hatred, we want you to know that there are more of us who want Unity and Love. We are a part of a community of people who love despite differences and listen to the stories of those who have been marginalized. We love beyond the lines of differences so that our lives can be full of diversity. We listen because we believe in human dignity for all people. Come listen with us and join a movement of people who are willing to love all people at all times.
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Leading people to discover and fully own their faith in Jesus. That is the mission of Central Christian Church, led by Pastor Cal Jernigan based in Mesa, Arizona with multiple locations throughout Arizona.
We are a community of grace and forgiveness where everyone is allowed, encouraged, and expected to be authentic. This is a safe and practical place to come as you are and grow in your faith, but this is also a place where complacency is challenged.
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When an opportunity comes to expand your understanding of the world, do you take it? Even if it means learning some painful truths?
Today on the podcast we have two wonderful leaders from Central’s staff joining us to talk about a recent trip they took to the south. This trip wasn’t for pleasure or for relaxation, it was to learn about the awful truths of slavery in our country and how the effects of slavery are still being felt by our brothers and sisters of color.
We talk about the value of having our eyes opened to realities of America’s past and it’s present so that perhaps we can have a hand in making its future better for all.
Show Notes:
Amplify Peace: https://amplifypeace.com/
How can we better listen to and love our Muslim neighbors? It all begins with getting to know them as people and hearing their stories. Today on the podcast, we have A delightful conversation with Imam Didmar Faja. An Imam is a Muslim religious leader and teacher.
In our conversation with Imam Didmar we get an amazing opportunity to hear his perspective on September 11th and how his Muslim community was affected. We also get to understand better some of the similarities Christians share with the Islamic faith.
Though Christians and Muslims may not agree with each other on every level when it comes to theology, there is great opportunity for us to live with mutual respect and love for one another. I can’t wait for you to hear today’s podcast and perhaps learn a new perspective.
What happens when survival is all you can think about and when the education you have been given doesn’t allow you to consider all of the options available to you? Sometimes people make bad decision because of the terrible situations they are born in.
Today on the podcast we have Dwight Crocker. Dwight is one of the pastors on our church’s staff and he has an incredible story to share with us. Find out how poverty in his mother’s life led her to have a warrant out for her arrest because she couldn’t pay the parking tickets she accrued.
Dwight talks about how he considered as a young teenager selling drugs so that he wouldn’t lose his mother to prison. Today we learn the importance of hearing everyone’s story even when they’ve made bad decisions.
Show Notes:
2Pac - Changes : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXvBjCO19QY
YouTube (so you can see Dwight’s great shirt): https://youtu.be/D8-TUAPJEDc
Homelessness continues to rise in the United States. How can we better love our sisters and brothers who have hit rock bottom and are living on the streets?
Four years ago you could have found Justin drunk and on the streets of Phoenix, but today he is the founder of several business including a non-profit. He has created an organization that is designed to help others like him find hope in the midst of their darkness on the streets. Join us today as we hear his powerful story and learn a little of what we can do to help our neighbors who have nowhere to call home.
Show Notes:
Acts Homeless Ministry at Central: https://www.centralaz.com/ACTS
Justin’s Non-Profit: https://luke1517.com
When is Evangelism Harmful? How have Christians missed the mark in how they share the good news? Where do we need to apologize for our bad behavior and how can we change in order to love better?
For this special Easter episode of Beyond the Lines we have Tom Kopp on the podcast to talk about the good news. Tom Kopp is a pastor at Central and a guy who loves evangelism but maybe not the evangelism you were taught. We can't wait for you to hear this episode of Beyond the Lines!
What is Christian Deconstruction and should we fear it? Deconstruction has become a buzz word over the last year in the Christian community so we wanted to have a conversation about what it is and how we can love those who might be experiencing it.
Maybe you're deconstructing your faith right now, we may have some helpful insights for you as well, but please don’t take my word for it. Listen to the podcast today and decide for yourself as you figure out your own journey with Jesus.
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How do we better listen to indigenous people and learn more about God in the process? Today on the podcast we are discussing a fantastic speech from Native American Theologian Richard Twiss.
We talk about how native people have been excluded from the theological conversation in church history and how we can start changing that. We all miss out on when we choose to dismiss other people’s understanding of God because it seems weird to us. We discuss how this could be because in our pride we have subjugated God into a theological box.
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Show Notes:
Richard Twiss’ Teaching: https://youtu.be/llTBf_IVc8U
Sundusts’ Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-kCWfuVU5I&t=1s
How can Christians do a better job of building relationships with Jews and Muslims? Today on the podcast we have Josh Prather who is the pastor of Pioneering at Redemption Church in Phoenix.
We talk about how Christians can learn a lot from visiting a Mosque or a Synagogue. We talk how those of us in the west need to start seeking out and listening to our sisters and brothers from the global church. Also, what does this all have to do with learning to choose suffering in our everyday lives? You’ll find all of this more in today’s podcast with Josh Prather!
Show Notes:
Josh Prather’s Email: joshprather@redemptionaz.com
Deaf people can do everything those with hearing can do except hear. Where have we failed to love the deaf community and what can we learn from them about how to view our world? Today on the podcast we have two incredible guests in Hailey and Julia. Hailey has been deaf her entire life and has faced some challenges because of that. Julia is her mother and has been Hailey’s faithful advocate when hearing people choose not to listen.
We talk about stereotypes that have been perpetuated in culture about the deaf community. We talk about some of the challenges that the deaf face in getting the services they need. We also get to hear some fantastic perspective from the Bible about being deaf.
We can’t wait for you to hear all of this and more in this special episode of listening to the deaf.
Hailey's Video Podcast: https://youtu.be/VV-KXPhVFmM
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Show Notes:
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Arizona Center for Deaf andHhard of Hearing About ACDHH: https://www.acdhh.org/about-the-commission/
Valley Center for the Deaf https://vcdaz.org/#navigation
Detour Company Theatre (an inclusive theatre company) www.detourcompanytheatre.org
Arizona Center For Disability Law Arizona Center for Disability Law https://www.azdisabilitylaw.org/
Tucson & Phoenix, AZ Gallaudet University https://www.gallaudet.edu/
Deaf Movies: https://www.amazon.com/Deaf-Movies/s?k=Deaf+Movies
Books:
“For Hearing People Only” by Matthew Moore & Linda Levitan
“Train Go Sorry” by Marlee Matlin
Christians need unity. How do we know that? Because Jesus' longest prayer was for his followers to have unity. Joe Tosini is the founder of the John 17 Movement. John17 is designed to be a tool for unity.
We talk about the reasons why Christians have become so divided and why our history is full of hostility toward one another and the world. Join us today as we talk with Joe Tosini about what it means to love one another.
Show Notes:
Special Event in Phoenix Area: To Be Announced
Learn more about John 17: https://john17movement.com
The Christian church is full of people, so it should be no surprise that it has a history full of errors. Some of these errors are racism, complicity, and segregation.
Today on the podcast we reflect on an interview with Reverend David Wade. We talk about the beauty of the black church’s faith despite the long tragic history of mistreatment they have endured in the United States. We also talk about why 11am on Sunday can still be the most segregated hour in Christian America and what we can do about that. In the midst of all of this tension, we also reflect on how we can all come together and build bridges of unity and understanding.
Show Notes:
Reverend David Wade’s Full Interview: https://www.centralaz.com/messages/love-beyond-1
Mount Calvary Baptist Church: https://www.mcbcmesa.org/
Dr. Jeff McGee Podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/938689/8852141
Today we listen to an ex-convict, David Prian, give his story on how he turned his life around. Spoiler: it wasn't easy. David Prian had to deal with a lot of stereotyping that made it hard for him to succeed. Nevertheless, today, David has started and owns multiple successful businesses and serves the homeless. He is truly an incredible person and his life begs the question, "what are we all missing out on when we don't give people a second chance?"
Show Notes:
Inspired Marketing: https://inspiredmarketing.design
David’s Testimony: https://youtu.be/BoQUDEj5mZo
Acts Homeless Ministry: https://www.facebook.com/ActsHomelessMinistry
How do we get along with our family this Christmas and Holiday season? Sometimes family conflict can leave Christmas dinner tasting sour. How can you prepare yourself now so that we can have a Christmas that we want to remember with our families later. It is possible!
Join us as we learn from the Lisa & Cal Jernigan on how to manage conflict during the holidays!
Preventing violence in our communities and nation starts with us. Together we can be a part of making a difference in the world. Identity-based violence is being spread by a few loud voices, but more of us want unity and understanding. Together we can rise up above violence and prevent it from silencing minorities and marginalized communities.
Rachel Brown is a brilliant historian and researcher at an organization called Over Zero. Over Zero is using communication to prevent, resist and rise above identity-based violence.
Show Notes:
Learn more about Over Zero: https://www.projectoverzero.org
Opting Out of War: https://g.co/kgs/FGVkfq
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Welcome to the special Thanksgiving Episode of the Beyond The Lines Podcast! In this episode, we are breaking down how we've grown and what we learned throughout this journey of loving beyond the lines. And of course we are so thankful for you to have been listening alongside us. Enjoy the episode and Happy Thanksgiving!
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Native American Heritage and History has long been ignored in the history of the Western world. Native and Indigenous people from all over North and South America have suffered and lost their culture through colonization. Today we get the opportunity to hear the person perspective and history of Mikhail and Charissa Sundust and what they are learning from their own native heritage and parents.
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Single Moms are often judged because of their circumstances. They don't feel accepted for who they are and very few people want to actually listen to their stories. Renee Bennet shows us that this practice isn't based in truth. It is based in fear. In reality, Single Moms are some of the greatest heroes we should all look up to.
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Join us this week on the Beyond The Lines Podcast as hosts Jon Miller, Clayton Eddleman, and DJ Heyward reflect on the past couple of episodes on Suicide Prevention, Addiction, and Central Christian Church's Through The Valley series.
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Show Notes:
How to Best Love People Dealing with Addiction: https://youtu.be/TIG2fop0QfE
How to Talk to Someone Considering Suicide: https://youtu.be/wQJYOvDFee4
Through The Valley Series: https://www.centralaz.com/messages/through-the-valley-youre-not-alone
Lisa Jernigan Episode: https://youtu.be/ZMjoBsl9_6Q
Rooted: https://www.centralaz.com/rooted
Sonya's Rooted Testimony: https://vimeo.com/528446158
As Christians, we are called to love others in a way that is Christ-like. So how do you best love someone who has an addiction? So often we want to help but we don't know how or what to do. In this episode of Beyond The Lines, Central Christian Church's Cares Pastor, David Wilinski provides practical ways that we can love them while giving them grace, truth, and time.
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Show Notes:
Central Cares (Celebrate Recovery, Boundaries, Parents of Addicted Loved Ones): https://www.centralaz.com/cares
Addiction Resources: https://www.centralaz.com/Content/ExternalSite/care/Central%20Cares%20Addiction%20-%20v2.pdf
Adult & Teen Challenge: https://teenchallengeusa.org/
New episodes every other Wednesday!
How are we supposed to help someone who has suicidal thoughts? Suicidal thoughts are far more common than you might think. Suicide is the 10th leading cause of death in the US. In 2019 it claimed the lives of over 47,500 Americans (CDC).
The good news is that suicide is preventable. You can be a part of a group who knows how to help those are struggling with suicidal thoughts. With a little training anyone can save a life. Join us on this week of Beyond The Lines as we talk with suicide prevention expert Mark Faul and how you can provide the life-saving conversation someone needs.
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Show Notes:
- National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: 800-273-8255
- Teen Lifeline is answered by youth peer counselors Monday through Friday from 3pm – 9pm: 1-800-248-8336
- Central Cares Website: https://www.centralaz.com/cares
- The Gift of Fear Book: https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Gift_of_Fear/hRfzwAEACAAJ?hl=en&kptab=overview
- Get trained in Suicide prevention with Living Works: https://www.livingworks.net
New episodes every other Wednesday!
Join us on this week's episode of Beyond The Lines as we talk with Jamal Hashweh of Global Hope Network International. Hear how their work is helping bring relief, long-term development, and hope to refugees across the Middle East region.
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Show Notes:
Global Hope Network International: https://www.globalhopenetwork.org/
Jamal Hashweh: https://www.globalhopenetwork.org/about/staff/jamal-suzan-hashweh
New Episode every other Wednesday!
Everyone like the idea of peace, but when it comes down to it peacemaking can be really hard, messy, and even brutal at times because peacemaking happens in the middle of conflict and tension. When things are peaceful, you don't need a peacemaker. That said, what does it mean to be a peacemaker? Join us on this episode of the Beyond The Lines podcast as we talk with Co-Founder of Amplify Peace Lisa Jernigan!
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Show Notes
- Amplify Peace: https://amplifypeace.com/
- Creating a Better Story Together Podcast: https://amplifypeace.com/get-involved/podcast/
New episodes every other Wednesday!
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What does it mean to have a poverty of perspective? Join us this week on the Beyond The Lines Podcast as hosts Jonathan Miller and Clayton Eddleman dive deeper into past episodes with Dr. Jeff McGee and Diana Oestreich.
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EPISODES
Dr. Jeff McGee: https://youtu.be/NwDEfOKMXzM
Diana Oestreich: https://youtu.be/Hfx57Bfhubc
BOOKS:
One Human Race by Dr. Jeff McGee: https://www.drjeffmcgee.com/onehumanracebook
Waging Peace by Diana Oestreich: https://www.dianaoestreich.com/waging-peace
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God never intended for humans to be divided by race. Where did racism come from? Christians have participated in racism and we don't understand where it comes from. There is only one human race.
Join us this week on this episode of Beyond The Lines as we talk with special guest, Dr. Jeff McGee on his new book One Human Race.
For more from Dr. McGee visit https://www.drjeffmcgee.com/ or https://www.ccdynamics.org/
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What does it mean to be a peacemaker? Can you be a peacemaker in your community? Being a peacemaker can be a scary thing to start. Diana Oestreich has walked this path and shares how you can make an impact in your community with peace.
On this week's episode of the Beyond The Lines podcast we are joined by Author, Activist, and Peacemaker Diana Oestreich. Join us as she shows us what it looks like to wage peace and how the us versus them dynamic is a false choice.
More from Diana: https://www.dianaoestreich.com
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Is it okay to doubt God? Can you doubt God and will He be angry with you? What does it mean to live in your true identity? Why are our fears in our lives are separating us from God? There are some loud voices who say it is a sin to doubt God. This is a lie and unbiblical. You can doubt God. Find out more in this episode of the Beyond The Lines podcast as hosts Jon Miller, Clayton Eddleman, and new host DJ Heyward reflect on the past episodes with Jamie and Donna Winship.
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Why are we so afraid? A Christian is not immune to fear and anxiety. What should a Christian do if they have fear and anxiety in our current world. A few loud voices want you to be afraid and to suppress the emotion. God repeatedly says, "Do not fear". So how do we live a life without fear? Listen in to this week's episode as Jamie and Donna Winship join us again on the Beyond The Lines podcast.
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The conflict and violence happening in Israel & Palestine right now is all over world news. However, there is a lot more going in Israel and Palestine that many of us are unaware of. Some loud voices want to make the conflict worse. Is this best for Israel and Palestine?
Join us for this special episode of Beyond The Lines as we talk to Lisa Jernigan from Amplify Peace and Todd Deatherage from Telos Group about the complexities and nuances of this conflict.
Both of these incredible leaders have been deeply involved with peacemaking in this volatile region for many years and have a wealth of knowledge and perspective to share. Discover with us what it means to be a peacemaker in both the Israel/Palestine conflict and in your own home neighborhood.
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What does is mean to live in your true identity? For a Christian in the West it can be hard. But many are finding identity and you can join them. Watch this video about Christian Identity with Jamie and Donna Winship. The Winships have learned the teachings of Jesus about Christian identity. On this episode of Beyond The Lines we sit down with the Co-Founders of Identity Exchange and find identity even in Crisis.
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How should we approach conversations about race? There are a few loud voices out there who don't want us to learn about race. Racism is real and we need learn how to talk about this important topic. Race is an important topic to learn about.
Join us on this episode of Beyond The Lines where we talk with special guest DJ Heyward, a black pastor in a predominately white church. We will discuss the lessons he's learned about how to talk about race and ethnicity.
How to Talk About Race: Four Lessons I learned: https://www.centralaz.com/blog/how-to-talk-about-race-four-lessons-i-learned
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In this special episode of Beyond The Lines, get to know hosts, Jon Miller and Clayton Eddleman, a little better and listen in as they reflect on the past 3 episodes of Beyond The Lines.
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How would your life be different if you were born somewhere else, had different parents, had a different set of friends, and had different life experiences? Would you still be the person you are today?
So when we listen to someone else's story why do we assume that we would do things differently? Why do we only view their story through our perspective and not try put ourselves in their shoes and see what they see?
All of these questions are key to listening and understanding people who have different perspectives from you. Join us on the Beyond The Lines podcast as we dig deeper on how to do this with special guest Cal Jernigan.
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Loving people that are like you is easy. Loving someone different than you is hard.
Is it possible to love someone different than you? Can you love someone and not like them? Should you love someone who has wronged you?
We'll answer all these questions and more on this episode of Beyond The Lines with special guest Cal Jernigan.
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Our world is filled with so much hate and division. When we disagree with someone, we can often demonize them as well.
How do we find the antidote for this poison of contempt in our lives?
Join us on the Beyond The Lines podcast with special guest Cal Jernigan as we learn how to go beyond the lines and love others despite our differences and disagreements.
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In a world filled with so much hate and division we want to do something about that.
We all have lines that we draw in our lives where we feel like that is our limit. We can’t listen past this line. We can’t love past this line. We can’t understand someone who is on the other side of the line.
Our goal with this podcast is to treat all people with the dignity that they deserve even if we disagree with them.
Join us as we learn to love beyond the lines.
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