Welcome to Therapy for your Money, a podcast about all things money and finance for private practice owners! If you are ready to feel confident and in-control of your financial life, then you are in the right spot. Therapy for our Money is hosted by Julie Herres, the CEO and Senior Accountant of GreenOak Accounting. She and her firm specialize in working with private practice owners across the United States, and have assisted hundreds of private practices with increasing their financial stability and profitability. She is on a mission to share her best practices she's learned along the way through her successful career as an accountant, discusses financial topics with a wide variety of guests, and help her listeners make data driven decisions to help their businesses.
Running a private practice means making a lot of decisions, some exciting, some uncomfortable, and some that just can’t wait.
In this quarterly check-in, I’m joined by Jacquie Carter from our GreenOak team to talk about what we’re actually seeing behind the scenes right now. From tax planning mistakes (yes, we’re going there) to payroll realities, hiring challenges, and a few hard truths practice owners don’t always want to hear, but really need to.
If you’ve ever thought, “I’ll deal with that later,” this episode is your gentle nudge… because later is today.
In This Episode, You’ll Discover:
1. Why tax planning starts now, not next April
Waiting until tax season to “fix” your taxes? Unfortunately, that’s when it’s already too late. We break down what proactive planning actually looks like.
2. The financial decisions that quietly put practices at risk
From overpaying payroll to pulling too much out of the business, we’re talking about the patterns we’re seeing (and how to course-correct).
3. What’s actually worth your time as a practice owner
Not every project, rebrand, or idea deserves your attention. We’ll help you refocus on what truly moves the needle.
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If you’ve crossed (or are approaching) that $1M mark in your practice, you’ve probably realized something… growth doesn’t get easier—it just gets different. In this episode, I’m joined by Joshua Brummel from Therapy Flow to talk about the hidden bottlenecks that show up as you scale from $1M to $3M and beyond. These aren’t the obvious problems you solved early on, they’re the behind-the-scenes issues that quietly slow your growth, shrink your profit, and stretch your capacity as a CEO. We’re breaking down what’s really going on and what you need to focus on to keep moving forward.
3 Reasons to Listen
Links and Resources Mentioned
If you’ve ever felt like you’re doing all the right things—taking time off, booking the massage, squeezing in a workout—but still feeling exhausted… this episode is going to hit home.
Because what if the problem isn’t that you need more self-care?
In this conversation, I sit down with Valarie Harris, author of The Capacity Code, to unpack a powerful idea: many practice owners aren’t dealing with a self-care problem—they’re dealing with a capacity crisis. And until you address that, no amount of bubble baths or weekends off will fix the burnout.
We’re diving into what capacity actually means, how it impacts your business (and your team), and why understanding your limits might be the key to building a sustainable, profitable practice.
3 Lessons From This Episode
1. It’s Not a Self-Care Problem—It’s a Capacity Problem
Many practice owners default to self-care when they feel overwhelmed. But as Valarie explains, self-care often becomes avoidance or short-term relief rather than a real solution. What worked in a previous season of life may not match your current demands—and that mismatch leads to burnout.
2. Your Capacity Directly Impacts Your Practice
Capacity isn’t just personal—it shows up in your business. When your capacity is low, you may notice:
On the flip side, when your capacity is strong, your team is more aligned, your systems run smoother, and your practice becomes more sustainable.
3. Avoidance (Especially Around Money) Is a Capacity Signal
If you’ve been avoiding your numbers, delaying tax conversations, or feeling overwhelmed by finances, you’re not alone. But that avoidance is often a capacity issue, not a knowledge issue.
Building simple, repeatable rhythms (like monthly money check-ins) can help you stay grounded and make better financial decisions without the stress.
Links & Resources
What does it really take to scale a therapy practice to 7 figures, without burning out or creating chaos behind the scenes? In this episode, Julie sits down with returning guest Nicole McCance to break down her proven 5-step framework for scaling a group practice. From systemizing your operations and hiring the right first clinician to fixing your biggest conversion gaps, this conversation is packed with practical strategies you can actually implement. Whether you're building your team or refining your systems, this episode will help you grow a practice that’s both sustainable and profitable.
3 Reasons to Listen
1. You’ll learn a clear, step-by-step framework for scaling
Nicole walks through the exact 5 steps she used to grow her practice to 55 clinicians—and what she’d do again (and differently).
2. You’ll uncover the hidden bottlenecks slowing your growth
From weak systems to missed consult opportunities, this episode highlights what’s really holding many practices back.
3. You’ll get practical, actionable strategies you can implement right away
Simple shifts in hiring, marketing, and client conversion that can immediately improve your results.
Links and Resources Mentioned
If you’ve ever thought, “I’ve heard of Profit First… but I still have questions,” you’re not alone.
In this episode, Julie is joined by Angelica Epps for a real, behind-the-scenes Q&A based on what practice owners are actually asking inside the Profit First Academy. From “Do I even make enough to start?” to “What’s the difference between profit and owner’s pay?”, nothing is off the table.
This conversation is a great place to get clarity on how Profit First works in real life—especially if you’re feeling unsure, overwhelmed, or just curious about whether it’s a fit for your practice.
3 Reasons to Listen
You’ve heard about Profit First, but still feel unsure how it actually works
We break down the basics in a simple, practical way so you can connect the dots.
You’re wondering if your situation is “too messy” to start
Whether it’s inconsistent income, debt, or tax stress, these are the exact questions we address.
You want to understand how other practice owners are thinking about money
These are the real questions coming up every day inside the Academy.
Links & Resources
What does it actually take to grow from clinician to CEO?
In this episode, Julie sits down with Brian Gallagher to unpack the financial leadership shifts required to scale a private practice—without burning out or building a business that runs you into the ground.
They dive into why so many practice owners stay stuck in a “household money mindset,” how to think like a true CEO, and what it really looks like to build a profitable, sustainable group practice. From hiring decisions to expansion strategy to the infamous “danger zone” of growth, this episode is packed with practical insights you won’t want to miss.
3 Reasons to Listen
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You’re tracking your KPIs… but what do you actually do with them? In this episode, I’m walking you through how to move beyond just looking at your numbers and start using them to lead your practice. Because tracking KPIs isn’t leadership—using them to drive decisions, assign ownership, and take action is. We’ll talk about leading vs. lagging indicators, how to set up a simple system for reviewing your numbers, and how to create clear next steps so you’re not reacting in panic mode. The goal is simple: replace panic with process so you can run your practice proactively instead of constantly putting out fires.
3 Reasons to Listen
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How Much Financial Transparency Is Too Much in Private Practice?
Transparency with your team can be a great leadership quality. But when it comes to your practice finances, sharing too much information can sometimes create confusion, pressure, and unintended consequences.
In this episode of Therapy for Your Money, Julie explores a topic that can feel a little controversial for practice owners: how much financial information should you actually share with your team?
Many practice owners share financials because they want to build trust, be transparent, or reduce the feeling of carrying the business alone. But once financial information is shared, it can’t be taken back—and without the right context, those numbers can easily be misunderstood.
Julie breaks down when it makes sense to share financial information, when it doesn’t, and how to create healthy boundaries around your numbers while still being a transparent and supportive leader.
Need Someone to Talk Through Your Numbers With?
Running a private practice can feel lonely, especially when it comes to financial decisions.
If you have been wanting to talk through your practice finances with someone who understands the business side and can stay objective, reach out to a GreenOak Accounting team member. Sometimes you just need to talk to someone unbiased about your practice's financials.
Our team helps practice owners understand their numbers, protect their profit, and make confident financial decisions.
Links and Resources
Many private practice owners assume their business will eventually fund their retirement. After all, you’ve spent years building it, surely it will be worth enough someday to carry you through your later years.
But relying solely on your practice as your retirement strategy can be risky.
In this episode, Julie sits down with financial planner Eric Miller, CEO of Econologics, to talk about why practice owners should think beyond the eventual sale of their business when planning for long-term wealth. They explore common misconceptions about practice valuation, why diversification matters, and practical ways owners can start building multiple income streams while their practice is still growing.
If you want to build a practice that supports both your business goals and your household’s long-term financial health, this conversation is a must-listen.
3 Reasons to Listen to This Episode
1. Many practice owners overestimate what their practice will be worth.
Eric explains why emotional attachment and optimism often lead owners to assume their business will sell for more than it realistically will.
2. Selling your practice doesn’t mean you keep the full amount.
Taxes, debt, and other factors can dramatically reduce what you actually walk away with after a sale.
3. Practice owners have unique opportunities to build multiple income streams.
From retirement plans to real estate to brokerage accounts, there are several ways to create long-term financial stability beyond your practice.
Links and Resources
When inquiry volume slows down, every single call matters.
In today’s private practice landscape, you can’t afford to miss opportunities simply because you didn’t respond fast enough. Research shows that the first practice to respond often wins the client — even if they weren’t the client’s first choice.
In this episode of Therapy for Your Money, Julie sits down with Uriah Guilford of Productive Therapist to talk about how AI-powered intake tools are helping solo and group practices answer every call, respond instantly, and convert more inquiries into booked appointments.
We’re breaking down what AI can (and can’t) do, how it impacts your bottom line, and why speed might be your biggest competitive advantage in 2026.
If you’ve ever wondered whether AI belongs in your private practice, this conversation is for you.
Why You’ll Want to Tune In
Links and Resources
If this episode got you thinking about where money might be slipping through the cracks in your practice, share it with a fellow practice owner.
Because missed calls don’t just mean missed connections.
They mean missed revenue.
And every practice deserves to be profitable. 💚
The Rent Equation That Can Make or Break Your ProfitRent usually isn’t your biggest expense — payroll almost always takes that spot. But rent is one of the biggest long-term commitments you’ll ever make in your practice.
When you sign a 5- or 10-year lease, that decision follows you.
And I’ve seen it go both ways.
I’ve seen beautiful spaces help practices grow efficiently and profitably. And I’ve seen gorgeous offices turn into financial anchors that are almost impossible to escape.
In this episode, I’m walking you through the simple math that determines whether your space supports your profit… or slowly squeezes it.
Because every practice deserves to be profitable — and the math has to math.
In This Episode, You’ll Discover:
1️⃣ The ideal percentage your rent should fall within
(And why 3–10% of gross income is your guardrail.)
2️⃣ How to reverse engineer your space before you sign the lease
We break down real examples so you can calculate exactly how many sessions your space needs to generate.
3️⃣ Why utilization matters more than square footage
Just because you’re open 40 hours doesn’t mean you can only schedule 40 hours — and that mindset shift can completely change your profitability.
Final Thoughts
It’s easy to fall in love with a space.
It smells good. It looks beautiful. You can picture your dream practice there.
But this is business.
Before you sign anything, run the math. Reverse engineer it. Stress test it at 85% utilization. Ask yourself what happens if hiring takes longer than expected.
Your space should support your profit — not strangle it.
Ready to Run the Numbers?
If you want to walk through the calculations step-by-step, I’ve written a detailed blog post that breaks everything down:
👉 Read the full blog here: https://www.greenoakaccounting.com/post/maximizing-your-space-how-to-make-physical-therapy-clinic-real-estate-work-for-your-bottom-line
Do the math before you sign.
Your future self — and your profit margin — will thank you.
And remember… every practice deserves to be profitable.
Links and Resources
Divorce is hard. It’s emotional. It’s overwhelming. And when you own a private practice, it can feel even more complicated.
Your practice isn’t just a job—it’s an asset. It’s a cash flow machine. It’s how you pay your bills, support your family, and serve your clients. So what happens to it in a divorce? How is it valued? Could you lose it? What about taxes, debt, or access to your bank accounts?
In this episode, I’m walking you through what you need to know about divorce as a practice owner—from business valuation to protecting your income-generating asset—so you can move forward with clarity and confidence.
If this is something you’re going through (or even just want to be prepared for), this episode will help you understand the financial realities and protect what you’ve built.
In This Episode, You’ll Learn:
Divorce is never easy. But if you get to keep your practice, you are keeping the very thing that allows you to rebuild.
Listen to this episode for practical guidance, calm perspective, and clear next steps.
And if you know another practice owner who could benefit from this conversation, share this episode with them. They don’t have to navigate this alone.
Links and Resources
In this quarterly review episode, Julie and Jacquie reflect on what private practice owners experienced in 2025 and what to expect in 2026. From staffing challenges and rising expenses to burnout and big leadership transitions, they share what they are seeing behind the scenes with real practices. If you want clarity, stability, and a plan for navigating uncertainty, this conversation will help you focus on what you can control and build a business that lasts.
3 Reasons to Listen
Highlights
[00:01:31] Private practice is still viable
Success remains possible across models.
[00:02:43] Awareness, intention, attention
Three traits of stable practices.
[00:03:23] Clinician pay expectation mismatch
High pay, low caseload tension.
[00:04:14] Benefits must match revenue
Sustainability over generosity alone.
[00:05:35] Owner draws under pressure
Lifestyle creep creates hidden risk.
[00:06:56] Emergency funds are essential
Risk planning protects your practice.
[00:07:41] Something will always happen
Plan for inevitable disruptions.
[00:08:57] Ten years of steady growth
Slow growth beats flashy scaling.
[00:09:51] Strong foundations matter most
Structure supports long-term success.
[00:10:21] The power of saying no
Alignment over shiny opportunities.
[00:11:23] Advisors prevent bad decisions
Outside perspective adds clarity.
[00:13:47] Owners want to step back
Burnout driving leadership changes.
[00:14:26] Gradual clinical director transition
Shift responsibilities slowly.
[00:16:54] One-year transition timeline
Stability requires patience.
[00:17:19] Never abdicate responsibility
Stay engaged with your numbers.
[00:18:35] Protect yourself from surprises
Keep access to key systems.
[00:20:23] 2026 uncertainty ahead
Insurance and intake instability.
[00:21:16] Control what you can
Focus on efficiency and accountability.
[00:22:27] Hard conversations are necessary
Actionable steps over blame.
[00:23:29] You always have choices
Ownership means responsibility.
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Common Tax Credits and Deductions for Practice Owners in 2026
Tax season doesn’t have to be a mystery, and you might be leaving money on the table without even realizing it. In this episode, Julie Herres sits down with Adam Rook from the GreenOak Accounting tax team to break down the most common tax credits and deductions practice owners may qualify for—both on the business and personal side. Whether you run a solo or group practice, you’ll walk away with clarity about the tax savings that could make a real difference for your bottom line.
3 Reasons to Listen
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A Profit First Journey: Confessions of a First-Year Practice Owner
Starting a private practice can feel equal parts exciting and overwhelming—especially when it comes to money. In this episode of Therapy for Your Money, Julie sits down with Alex Antonucci, a first-year practice owner who isn’t afraid to share the honest, behind-the-scenes reality of building a financially sustainable practice from the ground up.
Alex opens up about student loan debt that rivaled the cost of his home, feeling unsure about retirement savings, and the mental load that comes with not quite knowing where your money stands. He also shares how implementing Profit First before opening his doors gave him clarity, confidence, and a financial system that now supports both his business and his life.
If you’re a solo practice owner—or dreaming about growing into a group practice—this conversation is a powerful reminder that you don’t have to have it all figured out to start. You just need a system that helps you make clear, values-aligned decisions along the way.
3 Things to Listen for in This Episode
Resources & Mentions
Making the shift from independent contractors (1099s) to employees (W2s) can feel overwhelming for private practice owners—and let’s be honest, it can stir up a lot of big feelings for your team too! In this episode, Julie Herres sits down with Ginger Houghton, owner of Bright Spot Therapy, to unpack how Ginger’s “red carpet exit” approach turned what could have been a stressful transition into an experience rooted in trust, growth, and long-term success. Whether you’re considering this move or already knee-deep in the process, Ginger’s story offers practical strategies and plenty of encouragement.
Three Reasons to Listen / Three Things You’ll Learn
Resources & Links Mentioned
If you’ve ever dreamed about opening your own private practice, but the numbers are making your head spin (hello, startup costs!), this episode is for you. I’m walking you through exactly how I’d build a private practice with a $5,000 budget. Where I’d spend, what I’d skip, and the mindset shifts that will help you stay sane and avoid financial overwhelm. There’s a lot of advice out there, but let’s get real: you don’t need a giant pile of cash to get started, you just need a plan that works for you. Review episodes 198 and 199, where I review starting your practice with $1,000 and $3,000.
If you’ve ever wondered, “Should I be spending here? Is this something I can do myself?”—I’m sharing my honest take and the real-life steps I’d take if I were starting from scratch. This isn’t about cutting every corner; it’s about building wisely, not just quickly.
Top 3 Reasons to Listen
Resources I Mentioned
Starting a private practice with a limited budget can feel daunting—but with the right plan, $3,000 can go further than you think! In this episode, Julie Herres shares exactly how she’d launch a new practice if she had $3,000 to spend. Discover the must-haves, the smart shortcuts, and the areas where a little investment makes a big difference.
Listen to Discover
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How I Would Start My Private Practice: with $1,000
What would it actually look like to launch a solo private practice with just $1,000? In this episode, Julie Herres kicks off a practical three-part series walking you through exactly how she would build a private practice from the ground up—starting with a shoestring budget. Julie shares candid insights, must-have tools, and where not to spend your cash, all while keeping things approachable (and a little bit fun).
What You’ll Learn:
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Is Getting a Tax Refund a Good Thing for a Therapy Practice?
Welcome back to Therapy For Your Money, and Happy New Year! I’m Julie Herres, and I know tax season brings lots of questions—especially when it comes to tax refunds. For many business owners, that refund feels like a windfall or a bonus, but is it actually a good thing for your private practice? In today’s episode, we’ll break down what your tax refund really means for your practice’s financial health—and what you might need to adjust going forward. (Spoiler alert: it’s not always as great as it sounds.)
What We Cover
1. Green Flags: When a tax refund is a sign that your practice’s finances are on track. (Hint: it’s all about small refunds!)
2. Yellow Flags: Situations where a bigger refund means you missed out on cash flow you could have used all year long. We’ll talk about the sneaky reasons this happens—and what to do if you notice this pattern.
3. Red Flags: The danger zone! If you ever receive an unexpectedly large check from the IRS or your state, there are a few things you must check before celebrating. Julie shares common payroll pitfalls and why you need to get your accountant involved, fast.
Subscribe:Catch every episode by subscribing to Therapy For Your Money on Apple Podcasts or YouTube.
Remember:Tax refunds aren’t always a high-five moment for your practice. A little curiosity (and a call to your accountant) can help you spot green, yellow, or red flags and set you up for a financially healthy year ahead!
Links and Resources:
Money for Therapists Practice Startup - https://www.greenoakaccounting.com/startup
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Profit First Academy - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com/Academy
Podcast Production and Show Notes by Course Creation Studio
Eyes Wide Open: Prepping Your Practice for 2026
Let’s face it, 2025 has been a wild ride for so many practice owners. But while we can’t predict every curveball coming our way, we can go into the new year feeling informed, prepared, and ready to roll with whatever comes next. In this episode, I’m sharing real-world, actionable tips to help you keep your practice thriving in 2026, no crystal ball required! Whether you’re worried about insurance changes, want to strengthen your margins, or just want to be proactive (instead of reactive), you’ll walk away with practical steps and encouragement for the road ahead.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode
Links and Resources
Ever wish you could pick the brains of Profit First pros just for private practice? This episode brings you behind the scenes of Profit First Academy office hours with two of our most experienced coaches, Carolyn Chrestman and Hannah Dyer. Julie sits down with Carolyn and Hannah to share real questions from practice owners, common places people get stuck (and how to get unstuck), and what it really looks like to tailor Profit First to your own practice. Whether you’re just getting started or ready to dig deeper, you’ll walk away with encouragement, actionable tips, and a whole lot less confusion about your financials!
In This Episode
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TFYM 194 | Quarterly Recap with Jacquie (Q3, 2025)
Host: Julie Herres, Host of Therapy for Your Money
Guest: Jacquie Carter, GreenOak Accounting
In this quarterly check-in, Julie and Jacquie share what’s actually happening inside group practices right now. They cover the real-life challenges with payroll, tough financial decisions, and staying resilient when the industry shifts overnight.
In this episode:
Links And Resources
Get our free KPI tracker to see how you practice measures up to others in the industry!
www.therapyforyourmoney.com/kpi
Cash-Flow Series: Where Is Your Money Leaking?
In this episode, Julie dives into the not-so-fun—but oh-so-important—side of practice finances: figuring out where your hard-earned money is sneaking out the door.
If you’ve ever wondered why your practice feels “tight” on cash even when revenue looks strong, you are definitely not alone. Julie walks you through the six most common cash-flow bottlenecks that drain practices, both big and small, and provides practical, judgment-free advice on how to spot and solve them.
Whether you’re a solo owner or running a thriving group, you’ll leave this episode with fresh clarity—and maybe even a little sigh of relief.
Three Things You’ll Learn in This Episode:
Links and Resources
Group Practice Con - Join the 2026 Waitlist
Money for Therapists Practice Startup - https://www.greenoakaccounting.com/startup
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Profit First Academy - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com/Academy
Podcast Production and Show Notes by Course Creation Studio
In this episode, we tackle the most common cash bottlenecks on the incoming side of your private practice. Julie explains why problems are inevitable in business—and how a calm, systems-first response keeps money moving. You’ll learn how to spot a billing slowdown vs. a standstill, which weekly metrics to review, and why working with a team of billers creates helpful redundancies.
Julie rounds things out with insurance-specific red flags and practical safeguards. With consistent metrics and owner-level oversight, you can identify where cash is getting stuck and "unstuck" it quickly.
Next week, Part 2 digs into the spending side—where cash exits your practice and how to plug leaks without stalling growth.
Links and Resources
Group Practice Con - Join the 2026 Waitlist
Money for Therapists Practice Startup - https://www.greenoakaccounting.com/startup
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Profit First Academy - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com/Academy
Podcast Production and Show Notes by Course Creation Studio
Taxes can feel overwhelming, but you don’t have to figure it out alone! In this episode, I’m joined by two of GreenOak’s tax wizards, Morgan and Linda, for an honest, friendly conversation about the tax questions we hear most from practice owners. We’re talking real-life scenarios, the little things that trip people up (and how to avoid them), and why you really shouldn’t take tax advice from Facebook groups or TikTok. We want you to feel a little more confident—one step at a time.
Whether you’re still figuring out your business entity, not sure about “finding deductions,” or just want to keep things simple, you’ll leave this episode feeling empowered and maybe even a little relieved. Bring your coffee (and your questions) and let’s dive in!
Links and Resources
Money for Therapists Practice Startup - https://www.greenoakaccounting.com/startup
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Profit First Academy - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com/Academy
Podcast Production and Show Notes by Course Creation Studio
Get our free KPI tracker to see how you practice measures up to others in the industry!
www.therapyforyourmoney.com/kpi
In this uplifting follow-up episode, Julie Herres welcomes Linzy Bonham from Money Skills for Therapists to talk about what practice owners can actually do when the economy feels uncertain, client demand is softening, and those waitlists have disappeared. If you’re a solo or group practice owner who’s used to worrying about burnout but now find yourself worrying about empty appointment slots, you are not alone! Julie and Linzy get real about the “pendulum swing” from burnout prevention to getting flexible, creative, and—sometimes—doing the unglamorous work that needs to get done to keep your business healthy.
This episode is packed with honest advice and plenty of encouragement for anyone facing hard decisions, whether that means picking up a few more client hours or finally trying those marketing ideas you’ve been avoiding. The conversation covers practical strategies for bringing in “fast money,” the difference between working in versus on your business, why measuring what works is essential, and how resilience and adaptability are now your most valuable business assets. If you need a pep talk and some actionable ideas, this one’s for you.
Links and Resources
Money Skills for Therapists: https://moneynutsandbolts.com/podcast/
Money for Therapists Practice Startup - https://www.greenoakaccounting.com/startup
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Profit First Academy - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com/Academy
Podcast Editing, Video Production, and Show Notes by Course Creation Studio
Get our free KPI tracker to see how you practice measures up to others in the industry!
www.therapyforyourmoney.com/kpi
Things are changing in private practice—and if you’ve noticed your business feels a bit more challenging lately, you’re definitely not imagining it. In this episode, Julie is joined by Linzy Bonham to talk about what’s really going on behind the scenes: rising costs, tighter cash flow, shifts in hiring, and why even your go-to marketing tactics might need a rethink.
We’re pulling back the curtain on the realities of running a practice “in this economy,” sharing the patterns we’re seeing with clients across the US and Canada, and offering some encouragement along the way. Tune in to feel less alone, get some context for what you’re experiencing, and get ready for next week’s episode where we’ll dive into practical strategies to help you move forward.
Links and Resources
Money Skills for Therapists: https://moneynutsandbolts.com/podcast/
Money for Therapists Practice Startup - https://www.greenoakaccounting.com/startup
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Profit First Academy - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com/Academy
Podcast Production and Show Notes by Course Creation Studio
Get our free KPI tracker to see how you practice measures up to others in the industry!
www.therapyforyourmoney.com/kpi
Payroll is one of those topics every group practice owner knows is important… but let’s be real, it’s also where things can get really messy, really fast. In this episode, Julie is joined by Julia Henry, GreenOak Accounting Manager, to unpack the most common (and cringe-worthy) payroll mistakes they’ve seen behind the scenes. From missed tax payments to bonus blunders and everything in between, they’re sharing real stories and practical tips to keep your practice out of payroll trouble.
Whether you’re new to managing payroll or a seasoned pro, you’ll pick up clear strategies to protect your business and your team. Learn how to spot payroll problems before they snowball, what to do if you’ve fallen behind, and which payroll providers actually have your back. Tune in and discover how a few smart moves today can help you avoid headaches—and IRS nightmares—tomorrow. Don’t miss this essential episode!
Links and Resources
Money for Therapists Practice Startup - https://www.greenoakaccounting.com/startup
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Profit First Academy - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com/Academy
Podcast Production and Show Notes by Course Creation Studio
If Profit First has felt inspiring but hard to implement, this episode is your on-ramp. Julie shares why so many practice owners stall at the “first step,” and hints at a new, ultra-practical way to get moving using what you already have. You’ll hear how to think about profit beyond the P&L and why three specific accounts can meaningfully change how—and how much—you pay yourself.
If you want clarity, simple next moves, and a nudge to finish the year strong, hit play and take notes.
Resources
In this episode of Therapy for Your Money, Julie chats with Doug Vestal, a former Wall Street exec turned financial coach for therapists and OTs. They delve into the real financial challenges therapists face—such as high student loan debt and low starting salaries—and how these can lead to burnout if not addressed carefully. Doug shares the surprisingly simple wealth-building strategy that works (even if you're not a budget person), why your money mindset matters more than you think, and how early financial habits can set you up for long-term success. Doug also opens up about how a childhood memory shaped his entire financial philosophy. Whether you're solo or in a group practice, you’ll walk away with practical ideas and a fresh perspective on money.
Doug’s book Financial Freedom for OTs: A Guide to Building Wealth Without Burnout is available on Amazon and Barnes & Noble. Learn more about his work and his course, Private Pay MBA, at freedomofpractice.com.
Links and Resources
Money for Therapists Practice Startup - https://www.greenoakaccounting.com/startup
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Profit First Academy - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com/Academy
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Get our free KPI tracker to see how you practice measures up to others in the industry!
www.therapyforyourmoney.com/kpi
You might think the biggest threats to your private practice are burnout, cash flow issues, or poor marketing…
But what if the real danger is something far sneakier?
In this episode, I’m breaking down the hidden cost of this habit—and why it can quietly derail your business if you’re not careful.
🎧 Listen now to get clarity on what your practice really needs from you—especially if you’re juggling team needs, money decisions, and your own leadership growth.
Links and Resources
Money for Therapists Practice Startup - https://www.greenoakaccounting.com/startup
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Profit First Academy - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com/Academy
Audio, Video, and Show notes by https://www.coursecreationstudio.com/
Episode 184: Should You Use a Loan to Grow Your Practice?Thinking about taking on debt to start or grow your private practice?
In this episode, we’re breaking down the most common types of loans available to practice owners—including the pros, cons, and risks no one talks about. From lines of credit to SBA loans and even credit cards, we’ll walk through when (and if) it makes sense to borrow money—and how to avoid financial decisions that could haunt you later.
If you’re considering a loan—or just want to grow wisely—this one’s for you.
🎧 Listen now to learn how to fund your next move wisely—without putting your practice or personal finances at risk.
Links and Resources
Special Episode: Navigating New 2025 Tax Laws for Therapy Practice Owners
In this special summer edition of 'Therapy for Your Money', host Julie Herres, owner of Green Oak Accounting, discusses important updates from the new tax bill that affect small business owners and private practice therapists. Julie provides a concise breakdown of business changes, personal tax updates, and some unique deductions that may have fine print, offering key insights and practical advice for therapy practice owners to stay informed and prepared. Key topics include maintaining the QBI deduction, the return of bonus depreciation, pass-through entity tax benefits, and adjustments to personal deductions like the SALT deduction and child tax credit. Julie emphasizes the importance of consulting with tax professionals to navigate these changes effectively.
Episode Highlights
Links and Resources
Get our free KPI tracker to see how you practice measures up to others in the industry!
www.therapyforyourmoney.com/kpi
Therapist Finances in 2025: What’s Working, What’s Risky, and What to Watch
In this quarterly recap, Julie Herres sits down with Green Oak Accounting’s Jacquie Carter for a candid conversation about the financial realities therapy practice owners are facing in 2025. From insurance shifts to hiring woes, this episode is packed with no-fluff guidance for navigating uncertainty.
You’ll hear:
If you’ve been wondering whether to grow, pivot, or hold steady—this episode is for you.
Highlights:00:44 – Why private-pay practices are pivoting to insurance (and how to think about the tradeoff)
03:39 – Summer slowdown or summer surprise? How to plan for seasonal shifts
04:37 – Why marketing is becoming non-negotiable—and how to track your ROI
07:11 – “The math has to math”: The cost of people pleasing in your payroll strategy
08:52 – The truth behind that controversial Facebook ad about overpaying clinicians
10:20 – Is group practice really the path to passive income? (Spoiler: No.)
12:37 – Why chasing $1M revenue doesn’t always make sense
15:37 – What to do when you ignore professional advice—and how to recover
18:24 – Are you spending money to look successful instead of being profitable?
20:09 – One of the riskiest financial decisions Julie has ever seen a client make
25:01 – “You might be the problem”—the hard truth about self-sabotage in business
29:33 – Why “boring” financial advice often leads to long-term success
Links and ResourcesMoney for Therapists Practice Startup - https://www.greenoakaccounting.com/startup
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Profit First Academy - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com/Academy
Podcast Production and Show Notes by Course Creation Studio
Get our free KPI tracker to see how you practice measures up to others in the industry!
www.therapyforyourmoney.com/kpi
Understanding Tax Inequities: Why Billionaires Pay Less
In this episode of 'Therapy for Your Money,' host Julie Herres, an accountant and owner of Green Oak Accounting, delves into the often-asked question of why billionaires seem to pay so little in taxes compared to small business owners. Julie explains the U.S. tax system's design to benefit the ultra-wealthy and explores the 'buy, borrow, die' strategy that allows billionaires to leverage their assets without triggering taxable events. She also discusses estate taxes and how complex legal structures enable the wealthy to pass on fortunes tax-free. This episode aims to educate listeners about these discrepancies and inspire more informed conversations around tax reform.
Show Highlights
00:00 Introduction to Therapy for Your Money
00:44 Why Do Billionaires Pay Less in Taxes?
03:18 Understanding the Buy, Borrow, Die Strategy
10:46 The Impact of Tax System on Small Business Owners
11:55 Estate Tax and Wealth Transfer
15:04 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
Resources
Money for Therapists Practice Startup - https://www.greenoakaccounting.com/startup
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Profit First Academy - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com/Academy
Podcast Production and Show Notes by Course Creation Studio
Smart Money Moves for Therapists in a Shaky Economy
Feeling nervous about the economy? You're not alone—and you’re not powerless. In this episode, Julie Herres welcomes financial planner David Frank back to the show for a calming and practical conversation about what therapists can do when things feel financially unstable.
You’ll learn why panic doesn’t serve your practice—and what to do instead. Whether you’re watching the market dip, worried about Medicare or Medicaid cuts, or just feeling the pressure of team payroll, this episode is packed with tools and reassurance.
Why listen:
Show Highlights:
01:45 – Why anxiety is rising and what’s really happening in the market
03:00 – Zooming out: what history tells us about bear markets and recovery
05:00 – Julie’s “set it and forget it” investing strategy
08:00 – Dollar-cost averaging explained—and why it works
09:30 – How to think like a CEO if you rely on Medicaid/Medicare
10:40 – Revenue concentration risk: what it is, and why it matters
11:30 – Using “fear-setting” to prepare without panicking
14:00 – The value of securing a line of credit before you need it
20:00 – The difference between tracking for action vs. emotional reassurance
22:00 – How missing a few big days in the market can hurt long-term returns
23:00 – Julie’s closing reminder
Closing Thought: “If you’re feeling unsure, that’s okay. You don’t have to hustle harder, but you can plan smarter. You’ve got this—and I’m cheering you on.”
Links and Resources
Get our free KPI tracker to see how you practice measures up to others in the industry!
www.therapyforyourmoney.com/kpi
Episode Summary
Thinking about switching your group practice from 1099 contractors to W-2 employees? You’re not alone—and you’re not crazy for feeling overwhelmed by it.
In this episode, Julie talks with group practice owner and consultant Amy Dover about her real-life journey making this transition. Amy shares what triggered the change, the surprises along the way, and what she wishes she knew from the start. Labor laws, compensation shifts, team dynamics, and aligning your business model with your values...it's all in this episode!
Here’s why this episode is a must listen:
Episode Highlights
00:45 – Why this is one of the most requested topics among therapists
02:00 – Amy’s rapid growth—and early red flags
03:40 – The legal wake-up call: “This is a W-2 setup in disguise”
05:50 – Choosing alignment: why Amy shifted to employees
07:15 – Rolling it out: legal prep, communication, and transparency
08:30 – When kindness isn’t enough to avoid legal risk
10:00 – The emotional weight of leadership and unexpected team changes
11:50 – Over half the team left—what Amy learned through attrition
16:00 – Julie: “We can’t invest in growth if the numbers don’t work”
18:20 – “No one keeps their full fee”—a reality check for therapists
20:00 – Life after the storm: alignment, faith, and steady referrals
22:00 – Transition timelines: why 12+ months is realistic
23:00 – Julie and Amy: the sooner you decide, the smoother it goes
Resources
Get our free KPI tracker to see how you practice measures up to others in the industry!
www.therapyforyourmoney.com/kpi
Scale Your Therapy Practice Fast: Clinicians, Clients, Cash & Space
In this episode, Julie walks you through the four critical systems you need to grow your therapy practice quickly and sustainably. You’ll learn how to recruit clinicians before you need them, attract a steady stream of clients, plan for cashflow dips, and optimize your office space.
By the end, you’ll have a clear roadmap to coordinate all four factors—so your practice can expand without burning out your team or your bank account.
Listen for solutions:
Highlights:
00:00 – Julie opens Therapy for Your Money and today’s growth topic
00:32 – Introducing Profit First for Therapists book
00:45 – The four pillars of fast scaling: Clinicians, Clients, Cash, Space
01:25 – Building recruiting systems and runway planning
03:19 – Why you must start hiring months before you need capacity
04:23 – Factoring team attrition into your hiring goals
05:00 – Budgeting for clinician recruitment ads (Indeed, LinkedIn, ZipRecruiter)
05:59 – Setting up client‑attraction systems (ads, referrals, tracking)
07:48 – Speed of response: converting inquiries in 24 hours
10:01 – Planning for a temporary profit dip during rapid growth
11:39 – Financing options: owner’s pay, lines of credit, loans
14:00 – Maximizing physical space: shifts, weekend hours, telehealth
15:46 – Knowing when to add locations or telehealth roles
16:53 – Integrating all systems for efficient, profitable expansion
17:46 – Key takeaways and next steps for scaling success
Need Help Growing:
Need a tailored growth plan? Visit Green Oak Accounting for free guides and tools. If you found this episode helpful, share it with a colleague or leave a review!
Links and Resources
Money for Therapists Practice Startup - https://www.greenoakaccounting.com/startup
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Profit First Academy - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com/Academy
Podcast Production and Show Notes by Course Creation Studio
Adding Supervision to Your Therapy Practice for Financial Stability
In this episode of 'Therapy for Your Money,' host Julie Herres welcomes Brittany Schank to discuss the benefits of incorporating supervision into therapy practices. Brittany, a group practice owner from Fargo, North Dakota, shares her journey of adding supervision to create financial stability amidst the unpredictable nature of insurance payments. They delve into the logistical aspects of providing supervision, including the establishment of fair rates, group versus individual supervision dynamics, and advertising strategies. The discussion also covers key considerations for practice owners, such as liability insurance, setting up contracts, and potentially separating supervision services from the core practice for legal and business reasons. This episode provides valuable insights into expanding revenue streams by offering supervision, making it a must-listen for therapy practitioners looking to enhance financial security.
Show Highlights
Links and Resources
Solace Directory: https://solacecodirectory.com/
Money for Therapists Practice Startup - https://www.greenoakaccounting.com/startup
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Profit First Academy - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com/Academy
Podcast Production and Show Notes by Course Creation Studio
Budgeting vs. Investing: Smart Financial Decisions for Therapy Practice Owners
In this episode of 'Therapy for Your Money,' host Julie Herres, owner of GreenOak Accounting, discusses how therapy practice owners can navigate the challenging decision of when to be frugal versus when to invest in growth. Julie offers a step-by-step guide on setting up a startup budget, allocating funds, and revisiting financial milestones. She also explores the pros and cons of taking on debt and the importance of marketing investments in the early stages of a practice. Key action steps include knowing your startup budget, dividing funds strategically, and continuously evaluating financial needs as your practice grows. Julie emphasizes the need for using accounting software and saving for taxes to ensure a financially healthy practice.
Show Highlights
00:00 Introduction to Therapy for Your Money
00:45 Deciding When to Spend or Save in Your Practice
01:57 Setting Up Your Startup Budget
03:32 Allocating Your Budget Wisely
09:22 Marketing and Growth Strategies
11:43 Managing Debt and Financial Caution
15:18 Final Tips and Resources
16:57 Disclaimer and Legal Information
Links and ResourcesMoney for Therapists Practice Startup - https://www.greenoakaccounting.com/startup
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
GreenOak Courses: https://www.greenoakaccounting.com/courses
Profit First Academy - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com/Academy
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Adding an online course or coaching offer can feel like a natural next step for private practice owners—but it comes with its own financial considerations. In this episode, Julie Herres walks through how to manage revenue from a course or other non-clinical income stream without creating chaos in your books.
You’ll learn how to separate course finances from your practice, when it might be time to set up a separate entity, and how to use Profit First principles to allocate funds for development, marketing, taxes, and your own pay. Whether you’re just getting started or already selling, Julie offers grounded guidance to help you build a profitable and sustainable second stream of income.
Listen in to learn:
Episode Highlights
00:45 – Why a course isn’t the solution to a struggling practice
02:50 – How to evaluate whether your course should be part of your practice or a separate entity
04:15 – The potential risk of licensing board oversight for non-clinical offerings
05:40 – When it’s worth creating a separate LLC
06:50 – Using Profit First to allocate a start-up course budget
08:10 – Why separate bank accounts give you clarity and control
09:00 – Treating your course income like a solo practice inside a group model
10:00 – How to handle taxes, reinvestment, and owner’s pay for your course
12:00 – Final thoughts on making your course pay you back—not just take your time
Links and Resources
If this episode resonated with you, consider sharing it with a fellow clinician or checking out our free resources at GreenOak Accounting. Your financial clarity starts with a single step—and you don’t have to take it alone.
Optimizing Insurance for Therapy Practices with Jeremy Zug
In this episode of Therapy for Your Money, host Julie Herres speaks with Jeremy Zug, co-founder of Practice Solutions, about the intricacies of insurance for therapy practices. They discuss the reasons for taking insurance, navigating reimbursement rates, the steps in the credentialing process, and managing the revenue cycle. Jeremy emphasizes the importance of being strategic when selecting insurance providers and highlights the hurdles therapists may face. They also discuss the significance of choosing the right electronic health record (EHR) system and the benefits of having structured billing processes. Jeremy introduces his new book as a resource for maximizing insurance revenue and offers practical advice for therapy practice owners.
Show Highlights
00:00 Introduction to Therapy for Your Money
00:44 Welcoming Jeremy Zug: Discussing Insurance
01:34 Why Take Insurance in Private Practice?
03:20 Navigating Insurance Reimbursement Rates
05:07 The Credentialing Process: Start Early
06:07 Hurdles in Accepting Insurance
09:11 Managing the Revenue Cycle
12:32 Insurance vs. Private Pay: Making the Decision
17:00 Practice Solutions: Maximizing Insurance Revenue
24:07 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
Links and Resources
Practice Solutions: https://www.practicesol.com/
Special Deal for Therapy For Your Money Listeners: https://www.practicesol.com/therapyforyourmoney
Money for Therapists Practice Startup - https://www.greenoakaccounting.com/startup
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Profit First Academy - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com/Academy
Podcast Production and Show Notes by Course Creation Studio
Get our free KPI tracker to see how you practice measures up to others in the industry!
www.therapyforyourmoney.com/kpi
Navigating Finances and Tech for Your Therapy Practice
In this episode of Therapy for Your Money, Julie Herres, owner and accountant at GreenOak Accounting, discusses how technology impacts financial management for therapy practice owners. This episode was recorded after the unexpected closure of Bench.co, a popular bookkeeping service, which sparked this important conversation about owning your financial data and the potential risks of relying solely on cheap, tech-driven accounting options.
Julie breaks down some of the challenges with services like Bench, such as their proprietary software that can make it hard to move your data elsewhere, and those "free" tax services that might not be as thorough or accountable as you'd hope. She also draws parallels to what's happening in the mental health industry, where venture capital-backed tech companies are influencing pricing and reimbursement rates. This episode will help you feel more informed and empowered to make the best decisions for your practice's financial health and to choose accounting services you can truly trust.
What We Covered:
Links and Resources
Money for Therapists Practice Startup - https://www.greenoakaccounting.com/startup
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Profit First Academy - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com/Academy
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Maximizing Income in Private Therapy Practice
In this episode of Therapy for Your Money, host Julie Herres shares valuable tips on how therapists in private practice can predict their income and maximize their take-home pay. Julie explores three controllable factors in a practice: the number of sessions, the rate per session, and the percentage of income retained.
By understanding personal capacity, examining historical data, and accounting for yearly variability, Julie provides concrete steps for financial planning. Additionally, she offers insights into the expected profit margins for various practice sizes and the potential impact of strategic decisions on overall profitability. Julie concludes by introducing a KPI tracker to help therapists manage their finances effectively.
Show Highlights00:00 Introduction to Therapy for Your Money
00:46 Today's Topic: Predicting Income and Maximizing Take-Home Pay
02:51 Understanding the Three Main Levers
04:12 Lever 1: Number of Sessions
06:47 Lever 2: Session Rates
15:48 Lever 3: Income Percentage
23:20 Using the KPI Tracker
27:19 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
Links and ResourcesKPI Tracker and Calculator: https://calculator.greenoakaccounting.com
Money for Therapists Practice Startup - https://www.greenoakaccounting.com/startup
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Profit First Academy - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com/Academy
Podcast Production and Show Notes by Course Creation Studio
Get our free KPI tracker to see how you practice measures up to others in the industry!
www.therapyforyourmoney.com/kpi
Navigating Tax Considerations for Multi-State Telehealth PractitionersIn this episode of 'Therapy for Your Money,' host Julie Herres addresses a listener-submitted question about tax considerations for clinicians providing telehealth services across state lines. Julie highlights the complexities introduced by factors such as nexus, the location of clients, and state-specific tax laws. She offers valuable advice, emphasizing the importance of consulting with a tax preparer, maintaining clear client location records, and understanding state-specific regulations. Julie also discusses registration requirements for hiring across states and the impact of multi-state telehealth practice on business structures and tax filings.
Show Highlights00:00 Introduction to Therapy for Your Money
00:45 Listener Question: Tax Considerations for Telehealth
02:35 Understanding Nexus in Taxation
03:53 State-Specific Tax Thresholds
07:40 Registering as a Foreign Entity
09:57 Recap and Final Advice
12:57 Disclaimer
Links and ResourcesMoney for Therapists Practice Startup - https://www.greenoakaccounting.com/startup
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Profit First Academy - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com/Academy
Podcast Production and Show Notes by Course Creation Studio
Understanding Financial Health: A Guide for Therapy Practice LeadersIn this episode of 'Therapy for Your Money,' host Julie Herres tackles the crucial issue of financial literacy for group practice leaders and clinicians. Julie, an accountant and the owner of Green Oak Accounting offers insights gleaned from her experience with private practice owners across the United States. The episode highlights the significance of grasping the financial realities involved in running a group practice, including how clinical sessions affect the practice's income, the dynamics of profit margins, and the difficulties caused by rising costs and stagnant insurance reimbursements. Julie also presents the concept of the Healthcare Hierarchy of Needs from Kasey Compton's book 'Fix This Next for Healthcare Providers,' emphasizing the importance of sales, profit, and order for a successful practice. This episode is essential listening for leaders aiming to align their financial choices with the overall health of their practice.
Show Highlights
00:00 Introduction to Therapy for Your Money
00:45 Today's Topic: Financial Literacy for Practice Leaders
02:00 Understanding Financial Realities in Group Practices
05:10 The Importance of Profit Margins
07:16 Challenges Faced by Group Practices
09:35 The Role of Practice Owners and Leaders
12:15 Hierarchy of Needs in Healthcare Practices
14:07 Final Thoughts and Recommendations
15:58 Conclusion and Disclaimers
Links and Resources
Money for Therapists Practice Startup - https://www.greenoakaccounting.com/startup
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Profit First Academy - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com/Academy
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Join host Julie Herres on Therapy for Your Money as she sits down with Jamie Schrier to discuss the essentials of relationship marketing for therapy practice owners. They delve into why marketing is crucial for bringing dollars into your practice and the challenges many therapists face when it comes to self-promotion. Jamie shares his journey from a busy physical therapist to a successful coach and explains how vulnerability and authenticity can strengthen your marketing efforts. Jamie also introduces his concept of relationship marketing, emphasizing the importance of creating awareness, identifying specific target audiences, and building strategic partnerships. Key takeaways include tips on how to build trust with potential clients and referral sources, and the value of measuring the return on investment for your marketing efforts. A key quote from Jamie: 'Vulnerability is a superpower.' Tune in to learn how to leverage your expertise to grow your practice.
Episode Highlights00:00 Introduction to Therapy for Your Money
00:45 Welcoming Jamie Schrier: Relationship Marketing
01:10 Understanding the Importance of Marketing
04:17 Jamie Schrier's Journey: From Physical Therapist to Coach
10:18 Diving into Relationship Marketing
16:32 Building Referrals and Clientele
24:28 Measuring Return on Investment
28:36 Conclusion and Contact Information
Links and ResourcesPractice Freedom with Jamie Schrier: https://practicefreedomu.com
Money for Therapists Practice Startup - https://www.greenoakaccounting.com/startup
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Profit First Academy - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com/Academy
Podcast Production and Show Notes by Course Creation Studio
Get our free KPI tracker to see how you practice measures up to others in the industry!
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Navigating Financial Challenges in 2025: Insights and Strategies for Therapy Practice OwnersIn this episode of 'Therapy for Your Money,' host Julie Herres, owner of Green Oak Accounting and author of 'Profit First for Therapists,' is joined by frequent guest Jacquie Carter to discuss various financial topics relevant to therapy practice owners. They cover a quarterly recap focusing on the challenges and changes faced by private practices in 2024, the importance of optimizing marketing efforts, and the critical role of administrative efficiency. They also stress the necessity of active participation from practice owners, especially during tough financial times, and explore affordable self-care practices to avoid burnout. As Jacquie eloquently states, 'It just takes one small thing a day to make a difference in the long run.'
Show Highlights
00:00 Welcome to Therapy for Your Money
00:45 Quarterly Recap with Jacquie Carter
01:43 Challenges Faced by Practice Owners in 2024
05:31 Marketing Strategies for Group Practices
07:44 The Importance of Timely Responses
10:35 Facing Financial Realities
13:55 Managing Administrative Costs
19:16 Balancing Self-Care and Business Needs
26:11 Looking Forward: Optimism for Private Practices
29:52 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
Links and Resources
Money for Therapists Practice Startup - https://www.greenoakaccounting.com/startup
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Profit First Academy - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com/Academy
Podcast Production and Show Notes by Course Creation Studio
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Increase Client Conversions with Effective Website Strategies
In this episode of 'Therapy for Your Money,' host Julie Herres is joined by Daniel Fava from Private Practice Elevation to discuss the importance of investing in a well-designed website for therapy practices. Daniel shares common mistakes therapists make with their websites and emphasizes the return on investment a professional site can bring. Listeners will learn about the essential features every therapy website needs, such as clear calls to action and quality content that speaks directly to potential clients. Julie and Daniel also delve into the benefits of having a blog, the importance of SEO, and how to ensure your site meets both potential and current client needs. 'It's about the client, not just about you,' says Daniel, highlighting the need to focus on client benefits rather than just therapist credentials.
Episode Highlights
00:00 Introduction to Therapy for Your Money
00:49 Meet Daniel Fava from Private Practice Elevation
01:55 The Importance of Investing in Your Website
04:12 Real-World Examples of Website Success
07:14 When to Consider a Website Redesign
10:39 Essential Website Features for Conversion
21:45 The Role of Blogging in Private Practice
27:23 Conclusion and Call to Action
Links and Resources
Private Practice Elevation: privatepracticeelevation.com
Money for Therapists Practice Startup - https://www.greenoakaccounting.com/startup
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Profit First Academy - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com/Academy
Podcast Production and Show Notes by Course Creation Studio
Get our free KPI tracker to see how you practice measures up to others in the industry!
www.therapyforyourmoney.com/kpi
Mastering Marketing Strategies for Therapists with Avivit FisherIn this episode of Therapy for Your Money, host Julie Herres dives into marketing strategies with Avivit Fisher, founder of Redd Strategy. They discuss practical steps for attracting clients and transitioning from insurance to private pay. Avivit shares insights on setting up and scaling a practice, emphasizing the importance of local marketing, crafting a brand strategy, and organizing marketing tasks using project management tools like Basecamp. As Julie notes, 'When everything is a priority, nothing is a priority.' Tune in for actionable tips to boost your practice’s visibility and profitability.
Show Highlights
00:00 Welcome to Therapy for Your Money
00:49 Today's Topic: Marketing Strategies
00:59 Meet Our Guest: Avivit Fisher
02:10 Marketing for New Practices
04:11 Scaling Your Practice: Marketing Tips
06:38 Local Marketing for New Locations
07:53 Setting Marketing Goals
09:41 Project Management in Marketing
14:45 DIY vs. Professional Help in Marketing
18:22 Free Marketing Resources for Therapists
19:35 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
Links and Resources
Adding a Nonprofit to Your Therapy Practice: Pros, Cons, and Compliance
In this episode of Therapy for Your Money, host Julie Herres, owner of Green Oak Accounting, discusses the considerations and challenges of adding a nonprofit alongside your for-profit therapy practice. Julie explains the logistics of setting up a nonprofit, such as establishing a C corporation and obtaining nonprofit status from the IRS. She outlines the advantages, like tax-deductible donations and eligibility for grants, and the disadvantages, including compliance requirements and the need for board members. Julie emphasizes the importance of staying in compliance and provides practical tips for managing finances between the nonprofit and for-profit entities. By understanding these factors, you can decide if adding a nonprofit is the right choice for your practice. "If you're just talking about getting a few hundred or a few thousand dollars in donations each year, it might not actually make sense for you to have a non profit alongside your business."
Show Highlights
00:00 Introduction to Therapy for Your Money
00:45 Adding a Nonprofit to Your Practice
01:31 Understanding Nonprofits
03:36 Pros of Starting a Nonprofit
05:00 Cons and Challenges of Nonprofits
10:57 Compliance and Management Tips
13:50 Final Thoughts and Recommendations
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Money for Therapists Practice Startup - https://www.greenoakaccounting.com/startup
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Profit First Academy - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com/Academy
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Navigating Pay Raises in Therapy Practices: Key Considerations
In this episode of Therapy for Your Money, host Julie Herres explores critical factors therapy practice owners need to consider when team members request raises. Julie highlights the importance of ensuring the business's financial health before rewarding employees and provides a comprehensive analysis of different compensation models, including salary, hourly rates, and commission-based structures. She shares practical tips on aligning raises with business profitability, evaluating team performance, and having transparent conversations with employees about financial realities. Julie also touches upon the pros and cons of offering bonuses as a short-term motivation tool. Quote: 'Your most important role as the business owner is to ensure the survival of the business.' Tune in to gain valuable insights on maintaining a profitable practice while fairly compensating your team.
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00:00 Welcome to Therapy for Your Money
00:42 Listener-Suggested Topic: Handling Raise Requests
01:09 Key Considerations for Granting Raises
03:55 Evaluating Team Performance and Financial Health
07:13 Insurance vs. Cash Pay Practices
14:13 Communicating with Your Team
15:47 Exploring Additional Income Opportunities
18:20 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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Integrating Ketamine-Assisted Psychotherapy into Your Practice
In this episode of Therapy for Your Money, host Julie Herres delves into the logistics and financial benefits of adding ketamine-assisted psychotherapy (KAP) to a therapy practice. Joined by experts Dr. Sophia Branstetter and Karen Smith, they explore the minimal training requirements, income-generating opportunities, and how KAP can help manage seasonal income fluctuations. They also discuss the importance of community and consultation in navigating this emerging field. Tune in for practical advice and insights.
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00:00 Introduction to Therapy for Your Money
00:42 Introducing Today's Topic: Ketamine-Assisted Psychotherapy
01:08 Meet the Experts: Dr. Sophia Brandsetter and Karen Smith
02:13 Financial and Educational Investments for KAP
03:54 Overcoming Hesitations and Starting KAP
07:25 Income Opportunities with KAP
09:54 Marketing and Scheduling for KAP
13:33 Charging Models and Packages for KAP
22:00 Risks and Considerations for Adding KAP
24:52 Resources and Support for KAP Integration
28:46 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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Embracing Technology Trends in Therapy Practices with Amity Cooper
In this episode of Therapy for Your Money, host Julie Herres discusses the intersection of technology and mental health with Amity Cooper, the owner of Clinical Career Collective. They explore the impact of emerging technologies like OpenAI, ChatGPT, and virtual reality on therapy practices. Amity highlights the potential these tools have for improving accessibility and client engagement, noting that immersive technologies are already transforming therapeutic approaches. They also delve into practical insights on how practice owners can incorporate these innovations cost-effectively and enhance their service offerings. Julie emphasizes the importance of adopting a 'curious business owner' mindset to leverage these advancements effectively. As Amity puts it, "It's beyond just the dollars and cents. I think you're investing in yourself as a business owner."
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00:00 Introduction to Therapy for Your Money
00:53 Meet Amity Cooper: Clinical Career Collective
02:31 Technology Trends in Mental Health
05:13 Immersive Technologies in Therapy
08:02 Adoption and Financial Considerations
18:04 Evaluating ROI for New Technologies
21:09 Conclusion and Contact Information
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In the first episode of 2025, Julie Herres, host of Therapy for Your Money and owner of Green Oak Accounting, focuses on empowering therapy practice owners to take control of their finances. Julie provides practical tips to help listeners take charge of both personal and business finances, including:
Julie emphasizes that financial independence is more than just money—it’s about creating peace of mind, security, and the freedom to make informed decisions.
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Find the Perfect Balance of Growth in your BusinessIn this episode of Therapy for Your Money, host Julie Herres dives into the importance of effective delegation in private practices with guest Casey Gromer of C-Suite Boutique. Discussing the EOS framework, Casey emphasizes the distinction between visionaries and integrators. Key insights include the importance of delegating ownership rather than just tasks, understanding metrics, and the financial impacts of effective delegation. One notable quote: 'Right person, right seat.' Casey also shares tips on hiring the right people and offers services to help private practices streamline their operations. Tune in to learn how to make your practice more profitable through smart delegation.
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Financial Success at Any Age
In this episode of 'Therapy for Your Money,' host Julie Herres talks with CJ DeMarco, a therapist who transitioned to private practice later in life. They discuss setting up for financial success using the Profit First system. Key topics include the advantages of private pay, the importance of niching, and the potential of intensives for trauma therapy. DeMarco shares her journey from educator to trauma therapist, highlighting that it's never too late to achieve financial security. A must-listen for therapists venturing into business and those curious about Profit First strategies. "Today's the best time to then make decisions that are going to impact your life in the best of ways," says Julie Herres.
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Planning for Your Best Year Yet: Financial Goal Setting for 2025
In this episode of 'Therapy for Your Money,' host Julie Herres, an accountant and the owner of Green Oak Accounting, shares valuable insights on planning for a prosperous 2025. With her extensive experience working with therapy practice owners across the US, Julie emphasizes the importance of reflecting on the past year to set realistic financial goals. She discusses various financial targets, like revenue and profit margins, and the significance of creating a detailed plan to achieve them. Julie advises focusing on one or two specific goals and tracking progress regularly to ensure success. As she wisely states, 'What gets measured gets attention.' Listeners will learn the importance of aligning business goals with personal aspirations and making necessary adjustments to ensure a balanced and fulfilling year ahead.
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Why I believe Whole Life Insurance is a Bad InvestmentIn this episode of 'Therapy for Your Money,' host Julie Herres, owner of GreenOak Accounting, shares her strong opinion that whole life and universal life insurance policies are poor financial products. Julie delves into her personal experience with these policies, explains why they don't make financial sense for most people, and advocates for term life insurance. Focusing on keeping finances straightforward, she emphasizes separating life insurance from investments. Listeners will learn about the pitfalls of whole-life policies, the substantial savings with term life insurance, and how to protect their loved ones properly.
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Marketing Strategies for Therapy Practices with Joshua Brummel
In this episode of 'Therapy for Your Money,' host Julie Herres dives into the intricacies of marketing with Joshua Brummel, the founder of Therapy Flow. They explore how therapy practice owners can optimize their marketing spend, categorizing it into infrastructure and ongoing activities. Joshua shares crucial metrics such as cost per lead and client acquisition cost, emphasizing the impact of these on overall profitability. They also discuss the importance of setting a marketing budget per clinician and the effectiveness of non-traditional marketing avenues like email campaigns, networking, and social media. This episode is packed with actionable tips for both maintaining and expanding a therapy practice.
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00:00 Introduction to Therapy for Your Money
00:51 Meet Joshua Brummel: Marketing Expert
01:54 Understanding Marketing Categories
03:23 Determining Your Marketing Budget
04:36 Key Marketing Metrics: Cost Per Lead and Client Acquisition
06:57 Marketing Strategies for Private Practices
11:20 Optimizing Marketing Spend Per Clinician
23:24 Non-Traditional Marketing Investments
25:51 Conclusion and Contact Information
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Therapy Flow: https://mytherapyflow.com/
Money for Therapists Practice Startup - https://www.greenoakaccounting.com/startup
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Profit First Academy - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com/Academy
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Navigating Retirement Plans: Avoiding Costly Financial Pitfalls
In this episode of Therapy for Your Money, host Julie Herres dives into the complexities of retirement plans, focusing on the pitfalls of cash balance plans and the benefits of simpler options like 401ks and IRAs. Triggered by a recent client experience, Julie passionately argues against high-fee plans pushed by financial planners who are more interested in commissions than client welfare. She offers actionable advice, including three critical questions to ask your financial planner, and highlights the importance of choosing low-cost, high-value options like Gusto's integrated 401k plans. As Julie puts it, 'If anyone tries to force you into a cash balance plan, you need to run away. Do not walk, run.'
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Financial Mastery for Therapy Practice Owners: Investing, Retirement, and Real Estate Insights
In this episode of Therapy for Your Money, host Julie Herres delves into essential financial strategies for therapy practice owners with certified financial planner David Frank. The discussion spans various areas, including the importance of emergency funds, distinguishing between personal and business finances, and the advantages of fee-only financial planners. Listeners will gain valuable insights into managing excess cash, understanding tax-advantaged accounts, and setting up business emergency funds.
Simplified retirement planning is also covered, emphasizing target date funds and consistent savings. The episode touches on the intricacies of financial planning, including risk management, estate planning, and real estate investments. Practical advice on life insurance options and detailed resources on retirement plans are provided to help ensure the financial stability and growth of therapy practices.
Episode Highlights00:00 Welcome to Therapy for Your Money
00:50 Introducing David Frank: Financial Planner for Therapists
01:15 Investing Basics for Business Owners
04:34 Emergency Funds: The Foundation of Financial Security
08:14 Navigating Taxable Brokerage Accounts
15:10 Retirement Planning: Choosing the Right Accounts
20:01 Solo vs. Group Practice Financial Strategies
21:03 Calculating Your Retirement Number
22:04 Approaching Retirement: Financial Tips
23:52 Overcoming Financial Anxiety
25:41 Risk Management and Insurance
26:40 Real Estate Investments: Pros and Cons
34:33 Life Insurance for Practice Owners
38:04 Free Webinar and Resources
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Mastering Tax Debt: Strategies and Solutions for Therapy Practice Owners
In this insightful episode of 'Therapy for Your Money,' host Julie Herres of Green Oak Accounting provides therapy practice owners with essential guidance on managing tax debt. Julie covers crucial steps for addressing IRS notices, exploring payment plans, and applying for offers in compromise. She warns about the potential consequences of neglecting tax responsibilities and explains IRS procedures before drastic actions like wage garnishment or account seizure are taken. The episode also highlights the importance of timely payments, strategies for managing large debts, recognizing tax-related scams, and common IRS errors like misplaced payments. Additionally, Julie promotes a detailed tax course designed to help business owners better manage their finances. Tune in to gain control over your financial situation, avoid pitfalls, and keep your practice profitable.
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00:00 Welcome to Therapy for Your Money
00:45 Dealing with Tax Debt: An Overview
01:41 Understanding IRS Power and Consequences
03:01 First Steps: Responding to IRS Notices
05:18 The Importance of Professional Help
06:31 Options for Managing IRS Debt
08:10 Importance of Timely Payments
08:46 Offer in Compromise: When and How
10:01 Requesting More Time from the IRS
10:32 IRS Mistakes and How to Handle Them
12:40 Beware of Scams
14:50 Conclusion and Additional Resources
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GreenOak Accounting Manager Jacquie Carter joins the conversation for this quarterly episode mainstay - Industry Updates! Julie and Jacquie cover the latest issues that are on practice owners' minds and advise how to wisely manage the financial side of business ownership in these latest industry hurdles. Also find out what's recommended for end of year financial security!
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Avoiding Common Financial Pitfalls in Private Therapy Practice
In this episode of 'Therapy for Your Money', host Julie Herres shares insights into common financial mistakes made by private therapy practice owners. As an experienced accountant and owner of Green Oak Accounting, Julie emphasizes the importance of foresight in business planning, preparing for entrepreneurship's financial and operational intricacies, and properly accounting for taxes. The episode highlights the necessity of focusing on profit without guilt, advising on setting the right structures from the start, such as forming a legal entity like an LLC, and recognizing business costs that reduce the perception of a full income from fees. Julie also introduces her new course, 'Money for Therapists Practice Startup', to provide essential financial knowledge for new therapy practice owners.
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Navigating Partnerships in Therapy Practices: Risks and Considerations
In this episode of 'Therapy for Your Money,' host Julie Herres explores the complexities of forming partnerships in private practice. While partnerships seem like a good idea to share costs and responsibilities, they often come with significant risks. Julie dives into why about 80% of partnerships fail, compared to 50% of solo businesses. She discusses the importance of having detailed partnership agreements, covering crucial aspects such as profit sharing, administrative duties, and unforeseen events like disability, death, divorce, addiction, and disinterest. Julie provides real-world examples and insights into the legal and financial considerations essential for partnership success. This episode aims to equip therapy practice owners with the knowledge to make informed decisions about entering or exiting partnerships.
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Navigating Partnerships in Private Therapy Practices
In this episode of 'Therapy for Your Money,' host Julie Herres discusses the intricacies of partnerships in therapy practices with attorney Dan Mayer and practice owner Dave Yood. They explore the importance of having a well-crafted partnership agreement, key elements that need to be included, and potential sources of friction among partners. Dan and Dave share their experiences and share the key ingredients to maintaining successful partnerships.
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Links and ResourcesProtecting Your Practice - https://www.protectingyourpractice.com/
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Profit First Academy - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com/Academy
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Understanding the Value of Your Therapy Practice: Essential Tips for Selling
In this episode of 'Therapy for Your Money,' Julie Herres, an accountant and owner of Green Oak Accounting, concludes a two-part series on selling your therapy practice. Julie delves into how to evaluate the worth of a practice, emphasizing the importance of practice size and the role of net profit in determining value. Listeners learn about EBITDA, economic conditions' impact, and multiples' significance in practice valuation. Julie also stresses the need to consult an accountant, attorney, and financial planner before accepting offers. Access a free webinar replay on exit planning for a more detailed guide.
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Exiting Your Group Practice: Insights and StrategiesIn this episode of 'Therapy for Your Money,' host Julie Herres, owner of Green Oak Accounting, discusses the intricate process of selling a group therapy practice with Nicole McCance, a retired psychologist who successfully sold her group practice. The conversation covers Nicole's initial reluctance to sell, her eventual decision influenced by seeing a peer's successful sale, and the detailed steps she took to ensure her business was attractive to buyers. Key topics include the importance of systemizing your practice, ensuring profitability, retaining a strong team, and the significant role professional advisors play in navigating the sale process. Nicole shares her personal journey of scaling her practice to 55 therapists, her experiences with the actual sale, and the emotional and practical considerations of exiting a business she built from the ground up. The episode provides valuable insights for private practice owners contemplating or embarking on the sale of their practice.
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Navigating Challenges in Therapy Practices: Insights and Strategies
This episode of 'Therapy for Your Money' features host Julie Herres and GreenOak Accounting team manager Jacquie Carter discussing the financial challenges therapy practices faced in the year's second quarter. They explore themes of cautiousness among practice owners due to low intakes and referrals, the impact of external factors such as the Change Healthcare incident, and strategies for maintaining financial health, including prudent cash flow management and clinician compensation. The discussion also covers the importance of professional advice in navigating business decisions and thoughts on what the future may hold for the industry, emphasizing the need for caution, preparation, and sustainable growth strategies amidst ongoing economic uncertainties.
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Navigating the World of Buying Real Estate for Your PracticeIn this episode of Therapy For Your Money, host Julie Herres, an accountant and the owner of Green Oak Accounting, explores the complex decision of buying real estate for therapy practice owners. She delves into the reasons for and against purchasing a building, embracing the principle that such a significant financial step should align with one's long-term goals rather than be influenced by the actions of peers. Julie discusses the upfront and ongoing financial commitments of owning versus renting, including the potential for higher expenses and the responsibility of repairs and property taxes. She highlights the importance of financial readiness, advising against the purchase if it jeopardizes the practice's financial health or if funds for the down payment would otherwise contribute to underfunded retirement savings. The episode also covers the nuanced differences between commercial and residential loans, the process and expectations for securing a commercial loan, and the strategic legal and tax implications of owning commercial real estate. Julie provides a thorough overview of the potential tax benefits and pitfalls, especially the impact of depreciation and depreciation recapture on future tax bills. She concludes by reflecting on the shifting landscape of commercial real estate, particularly post-2020, and its implications for practice owners considering this investment. Julie advises listeners to seek professional guidance tailored to their unique situation, as the episode contains general opinions on accounting and tax matters rather than personalized advice.
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Therapy for Your Money: Unveiling the Power of Marketing in Therapy Practices
In this episode of Therapy for Your Money, host Julie Herres, an accountant and owner of Green Oak Accounting, explores the crucial yet often avoided topics of money and marketing for therapy practice owners. Joined by guest Jenn Fredette, a psychotherapist and marketing enthusiast, the discussion delves into overcoming the challenges associated with financial management and marketing within a private practice. Jenn shares her journey from psychotherapist to marketing mentor, emphasizing the similarities between clinical work and marketing and the importance of authentic connection with potential clients. The episode covers strategies for effective marketing, the significance of visibility, dealing with self-sabotage and avoidance, and crafting messages that resonate with ideal clients. Furthermore, Jenn introduces her flagship program aimed at helping therapists achieve a full and fulfilling caseload. The show concludes with Jenn's book recommendations for business owners and provides information on how listeners can access her programs.
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In this episode of 'Therapy for Your Money,' hosted by Julie Herres, the focus is on understanding Department of Labor (DOL) audits through the lens of a therapy practice owner. Julie shares her personal experience with a DOL audit in 2023, emphasizing the rarity of such audits for small businesses and outlining what triggers them. She provides a detailed account of the audit process, what the DOL investigates, and the kind of information they request, ranging from employee data to time and payroll records. Highlighting the challenges and emotions involved, Julie offers practical advice for handling audits, including the importance of EPLI insurance, rights during the audit, and the potential outcomes. The episode aims to prepare listeners for the unlikely event of a DOL audit, ensuring they're informed and protected.
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Mastering Delegation: A Guide for Therapy Practice Owners
This episode of 'Therapy for Your Money' features host Julie Herres and guest Uriah Guilford discussing the importance of efficiency, delegation, and reducing stress for therapy practice owners. Uriah, a group practice owner and the founder of Productive Therapist shares his personal mission of making work and life easier and more fun. He introduces a five-step process for successful delegation: 1) Create a clear goal, 2) Create a written procedure (SOP), 3) Do effective training, 4) Give clear feedback, and 5) Maintain good accountability. Throughout the conversation, both speakers emphasize the significance of delegated tasks to prevent burnout, improve business efficiency, and ensure practice profitability.
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Therapy for Your Money: Becoming a Wealthy Therapist
In this episode of 'Therapy for Your Money,' host Julie Herres discusses her insights on wealth accumulation for therapists. The economic rules discussed include spending less than what one earns, saving at least 10% of annual income, using debt wisely, having term life insurance if one has dependents, having emergency funds personally and in business, and ensuring one has a will. Lastly, she emphasizes the need for consistency in practicing these habits and that becoming wealthy is usually gradual.
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Behind the Numbers of Self-Publishing: Profit First for Therapists Turns OneIn this Therapy for Your Money episode, host Julie Herres, an accountant and owner of Green Oak Accounting, celebrates her book's first anniversary, Profit First for Therapists. She discusses the comprehensive details of self-publishing a niche book, including the financial and time commitments required. Julie provides insights into the costs associated with developmental editing, proofreading, typesetting, audiobook production, marketing, and promotional materials for the all in total. She sheds light on the book's sales performance, revealing that despite the significant upfront costs, the book has sold over 8,000 copies, surpassing her initial goal of 5,000 sales in the first year. The episode also highlights the importance of aligning book projects with broader business goals rather than expecting direct financial returns from book sales alone. Julie encourages listeners with a book idea to pursue self-publishing, equipped with realistic expectations about the process and potential outcomes.
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Finding Joy and Understanding Self-Love with Kasey ComptonIn this episode of 'Therapy for Your Money', host Julie Herres, an accountant and owner of Green Oak Accounting, talks with three-time guest Kasey Compton about her new book, 'In Search of You'. They delve into the journey of writing the book, its personal nature, and the process of self-discovery and vulnerability Compton experienced. 'In Search of You' explores themes of self-love, the quest for joy beyond achievements, and the impact of one's past on the present. Kasey shares insights into her own life, including challenges with motherhood and personal growth, and discusses the importance of self-acceptance and understanding what true joy means. The conversation also touches on Compton's older work, highlighting the personal transformation and insights she has gained through writing and therapy.
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Understanding Retirement Plans: Options for Business OwnersIn this episode of Therapy for Your Money we discusses the different retirement plans available to business owners. She details four main business retirement plans: traditional 401k, Safe Harbor 401k, Simple IRA, and SEP IRA. Julie outlines the benefits, limitations, and eligibility criteria for each plan, highlighting how these can align with various business scales and circumstances. She also introduces two personal retirement plans, the IRA and the Roth IRA, noting that business owners may have restricted eligibility for these. Lastly, Julie discusses the concept of ‘backdoor Roth,’ an option for high-income earners who don’t qualify for regular Roth IRAs, and mentions the impact of state-mandated retirement plans. She urges listeners to plan their retirement savings wisely by considering their financial situation and business scale.
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Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
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Unlocking the Power of Private Pay Practice: Expert Insights and Advice
In this episode of 'Therapy for Your Money', host Julie Herres discusses the importance of private pay practices for therapists with guest Deb Legge, a mental health professional and business coach. Deb shares her experiences shifting towards private pay practices, emphasizing the importance of understanding value, the necessity of effective marketing, and the benefit of identifying and reaching out to key target markets. Furthermore, she discusses strategies for dealing with potential clients' insurance questions and reminds practitioners that their ultimate goal is to provide effective service to clients. Deb also shares information about her 'Private Pay Practice Program' and a special podcast series giveaway. In this episode, you will discover insights on:
1. Niche Services: Deb Legge emphasizes the importance of offering unique and specialized services that set you apart. She reveals strategies to identify niche markets and provide services that clients can't find elsewhere.
2. Expert Insights: As an industry expert, Deb Legge shares her wealth of knowledge on positioning yourself as the go-to professional in your niche market. She discusses the power of being the best choice for your target audience and provides practical tips on building trust and credibility.
3. Connect with Your Ideal Clients: Deb explains why focusing on a specific target market leads to better results and a stronger connection with clients. Discover the secrets to making your practice more memorable and effective by following Deb's advice in this episode.
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00:04 Introduction to the Podcast
00:51 The Importance of Private Pay Clients
01:04 Guest Introduction: Deb Legge
02:26 Understanding the Benefits of Private Pay
04:16 Addressing Accessibility Concerns
05:17 The Importance of Niche Specialization
07:40 Effective Marketing Strategies
10:35 Increasing Referrals
13:47 Overcoming Barriers to Private Pay
17:51 Starting the Transition to Private Pay
17:59 Understanding Your Value
18:55 The Role of Mindset in Private Pay
21:49 The Importance of Professional Services
24:02 Deb's Private Pay Practice Program
27:15 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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In this Therapy for Your Money episode, host Julie Herres, an accountant specializing in private practices, shares insights on creating a million-dollar therapy practice. She clarifies that a million-dollar practice generates gross annual revenue, not profit. She illustrates how practices achieve this, noting it involves robust systems around marketing and client acquisition, ongoing recruitment, and strategic delegation. Moreover, she warns against unsustainable hiring and compensation practices. Julie also promotes her webinar on common hiring mistakes made by practice owners.
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In this episode of the 'Therapy for Your Money' podcast, host Julie Herres talks to mental health therapist and financial therapy practitioner Khara Croswaite Brindle. They discuss the prevalent issues of money avoidance and insecurity among private practice owners, often stemming from deeply ingrained beliefs and traumas about money. The conversation delves into the concept of 'noble poverty' in the industry, misconceptions around the pursuit of profit, and the importance of addressing these issues through financial therapy. Khara describes her approach to helping clients, often fellow therapists, to gradually confront their fears and cultivate a healthier relationship with money.
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In this episode of 'Therapy for Your Money,' host Julie Herres and retreat planning expert Patrick Casale delve deep into the world of retreats. They discuss strategies for successful retreat planning, including creating a detailed budget, understanding the true costs, setting realistic prices, developing effective marketing strategies, and offering add-ons such as CEUs (Continuing Education Units), excellent accommodation, and local experiences to attract participants. Patrick's experience planning retreats and his tips for overcoming common challenges provide invaluable insights for anyone considering launching their own retreats.
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Understanding the Implications of Hiring Contractors vs Employees in Therapy Practices
In this episode of 'Therapy for Your Money,' host Julie Herres discusses the implications of employing contractors versus employees in therapy practices. She unpacks a recent ruling from the Department of Labor and its six factors for determining employment relationships. She emphasizes that legislation is moving towards favoring employee relationships. While the immediate impact on therapy practices may be limited, it is prudent for owners to begin considering the transition from contractors to employees. Julie also shares useful resources to help small businesses stay compliant and highlights a webinar on clinician compensation for sustainable and profitable practices.
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In this episode, Julie Herres and her guest Davia Roberts discuss the differences between the nonprofit and corporate mindsets in the therapy field. They explore the challenges faced by therapists working in nonprofits, such as low pay, unrealistic expectations, and the guilt associated with prioritizing financial security. They also debunk the stigma around therapists transitioning from nonprofit to corporate settings.
Financial Challenges in Nonprofit Settings
The conversation highlights the financial challenges faced by therapists working in nonprofit settings. Many therapists in these settings are overworked and underpaid, with unrealistic workloads and limited resources. Struggles include making a living wage, paying off student loans, and the overall financial stress that impacts the well-being of therapists. On top of that, there is the guilt associated with charging higher fees for services, despite the value and importance of their work.
The Impact of Stigma
Davia highlights the perception that going corporate is seen as being greedy or money-focused, while nonprofit work is viewed as selfless and dedicated to helping others. The conversation challenges these stereotypes, pointing out the importance of financial security and acknowledging that therapists should not be expected to sacrifice their own well-being for their clients. They discuss the need to break free from the guilt and reframe the conversation around the value and worth of mental health services.
Shifting the Mindset
The transition from a nonprofit mindset to a corporate or private practice mindset involves a critical evaluation of goals, motivations, and expectations. This process is crucial for therapists considering such a shift. They need to align their financial goals with their career aspirations, highlighting the significance of negotiating appropriate pay and understanding their worth. Additionally, the conversation addresses the necessity of financial planning and budgeting. Awareness of the seasonal fluctuations in income that can occur in an entrepreneurial or private practice setting is also a key aspect of this transition.
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Lessons from Successful Business Owners: Strategies and Habits for Profitable Practices
Host Julie Herres discusses the habits and strategies common among the most successful business owners. She emphasizes not to equate the appearance of wealth with actual success. She suggests that successful business owners often do not overextend their resources but smartly use credit cards and plan investments. Successful business owners rarely take uncalculated risks. They value their time and spend it wisely on the business. They have emergency funds, focus on perfecting one revenue stream before moving on to others, and rely on experts for various business requirements. These strategies have helped drive their businesses forward in a financially sustainable way.
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In this episode, Maira Holzmann and Julie Herres delve deep into the intricacies of managing finances in the world of therapy practice. They discuss the challenges and revelations they've faced, from reevaluating their perceptions of debt to the importance of joy spotting amidst the stresses of business. Maira shares her transformative journey with money, emphasizing the need for prioritization and respect in handling finances. Julie offers insights into the dual-edged nature of business ownership, highlighting the balance between control and uncertainty.
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How to Increase Your Income in Private Practice: Three Levers All Practice Owners Can Use
In this podcast episode of Therapy for Your Money, host Julie Herres discusses levers that therapy practice owners can control to increase their income.
By skillfully managing these levers and expenses, practice owners can improve their personal income without necessarily needing to increase their gross earnings.
Highlights
00:04 Introduction to the Podcast
00:15 About the Host and Her Mission
00:35 Introduction to the Book 'Profit First for Therapists'
00:51 Increasing Your Private Practice Income
01:08 Three Levers to Increase Your Income
01:44 Lever 1: Increasing the Number of Sessions
03:38 Lever 2: Increasing the Average Fee per Session
05:05 Lever 3: Managing Your Expenses and Allocation
06:40 How to Use These Levers to Your Advantage
07:25 The Importance of a Profitable Practice
08:16 Using the 'Reverse Engineer Your Practice' Tool
09:09 Conclusion and Legal Disclaimer
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During this podcast episode, the hosts discuss the shifting mindset from viewing intake coordinators strictly as administrative support to seeing them as essential salespeople in mental health practices. By redefining the role, conversion rates can increase, benefiting the practice and the clients. When it comes to putting the right person in the role, it's important to hire someone with a sales mindset capable of tackling tasks like efficient follow-ups and exploring all possible patient options while still being likable and relational.
Three questions this episode will answer are:
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In this episode, Julie Herres, the host of 'Therapy for Your Money' speaks with Sarah Riley, the business development manager at Green Oak Accounting, about reimagining the role of an intake coordinator to work more like a salesperson. They discuss how a sales-oriented approach can significantly improve a therapy practice's conversion rates, making it more profitable. They also explore practical tips on how to implement this approach, deal with ethical concerns, and how choosing the right person with a sales mindset can help provide better service to clients.
In this episode, you will discover:
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LINKS & RESOURCESGreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Profit First Academy - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com/Academy
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In this episode of "Therapy for Your Money," Julie Herres and Linzy Bonham discuss the various types of financial professionals that therapy practice owners might work with or encounter. They highlight the importance of understanding the roles and responsibilities of these professionals to make informed decisions for one's business.
Bookkeepers and Accountants for Therapists
The discussion starts with an overview of bookkeepers and accountants. Bookkeepers manage the financial records, transactions, and basic financial tasks, while accountants have a more comprehensive understanding of taxes, bookkeeping, and payroll. Accountants might also provide forward-looking analysis, helping business owners plan for the future.
Fractional CFOs (Chief Financial Officers) for Therapists
The hosts introduce the concept of fractional CFOs, who are like strategic financial partners for businesses. Fractional CFOs help with big financial decisions, budgeting, measuring financial key performance indicators, and achieving financial goals. They play a vital role in guiding businesses through periods of growth and keeping them on track.
Financial Coaches and Profit First Professionals for Therapists
Financial coaches focus on educating and empowering business owners to manage their finances effectively. They address mindset and emotional aspects related to money, helping business owners develop skills and habits for informed financial decisions. Profit First Professionals specifically use the Profit First methodology to prioritize profit in business finances.
Payroll Services and Financial Planners
Payroll services automate payroll-related tasks, ensuring compliance and accuracy. Financial planners, on the other hand, offer guidance on investments, retirement planning, and insurance products. It's important to distinguish between fee-for-service financial planners and those who may also sell financial products, as this can affect the advice and recommendations they provide.
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GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Profit First Academy - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com/Academy
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In this enlightening episode of "Therapy for Your Money," host Julie Herres dives into the crucial topic of embracing your full fee as a therapist and getting comfortable with it. She is joined by Alyse Freda Colon, a seasoned therapist with 18 years of experience in private practice.
Shifting the Mindset Around Fees
Alyse encourages therapists to recognize the immense value they provide through their work and to overcome the fear of charging their worth. As she aptly puts it, "We are doing kick-ass life-changing work, and you need to acknowledge that you are providing a very valuable service."
Transitioning from Insurance to Private Pay
The episode delves into the process of transitioning from accepting insurance to practicing on a private pay basis. Alyse's experience serves as a powerful reminder that therapists have the right to set their fee structures based on their own needs and circumstances.
Overcoming the Fear of Charging Your Worth
Challenging the notion that therapists shouldn't focus on making money, Alyse emphasizes the importance of confidently charging your worth. She advocates for therapists to take ownership of their fee structures without apology or hesitation.
Action Steps
The episode serves as a reminder that therapists provide invaluable services and deserve to thrive in their businesses. As Alyse aptly states, "We gotta stop all the shaming around therapists who want to do good work and make a good living." With determination and a renewed perspective, therapists can embrace their financial worth and achieve sustainable success in their private practices.
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In this episode, we explore the intricacies of achieving financial freedom in the digital era with our guest, Adam Carroll. We discuss the changing dynamics of financial transactions and innovative strategies that have reshaped our relationship with money, making it seem less tangible and possibly affecting our spending habits. We also introduce the "Shred Method," a groundbreaking approach to debt management that offers a faster path to financial independence.
Highlights:
As we conclude, we reflect on the wealth of knowledge shared by Adam Carroll, highlighting the necessity to adapt to the changing financial landscape and utilize innovative methods for efficient debt and investment management. This conversation illuminates the potential of compound interest and the importance of flexibility in financial planning, encouraging listeners to make informed decisions for a prosperous future.
Join us in the next episode for more insights into shaping a financially secure future.
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Welcome to Therapy for Your Money, a podcast dedicated to all things money and finance for therapy practice owners. I'm Julie Herres, an accountant and owner of Green Oak Accounting. With years of experience working with private practice owners, my goal is to share the best practices I've learned to help you build a profitable private practice. In this episode, I talk about starting your year off right by implementing Profit First. In this episode, you will discover:
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We've got an exciting new episode of our Live Stream Launch Party Series! On May 2nd, 2023, Julie released her book, Profit First for Therapists. We threw a huge online launch party with GreenOak Accounting team members, real practice owners who tell their stories in the book, and the original creator of Profit First, Mike Michalowicz to celebrate this exciting event. We wanted to share the stories told during our launch event with our podcast listeners so you could be part of the celebration with us!
On today’s episode, we’re joined by none other than the creator of Profit First, Mike Michalowicz! Julie chats with Mike about her experience writing Profit First for Therapists and the impact it’s had on the therapy community, as well as some exciting new projects that Mike has in the works.
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GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.comTherapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.comProfit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.comProfit First Academy - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com/Academy
Setting Effective Financial Goals for 2024
In this episode of 'Therapy for Your Money', host Julie Herres discusses tips on how to make 2024 the most productive financial year yet for private practice owners. She encourages listeners to evaluate previous successes and align future goals with their personal ambitions, focusing on both financial and non-financial targets. Additionally, she emphasizes the effectiveness of setting SMART goals. Finally, she announces an upcoming 'Make 2024 Your Best Year Yet Workshop' where attendees can work on their goals and financial plans.
Aligning Personal Goals with Financial Goals: When setting financial goals, it's essential to align them with your personal aspirations. While having a revenue target can be motivating, it's equally important to consider what truly matters to you. Increasing your take-home pay or achieving a better work-life balance may be more significant than merely attaining a specific revenue milestone
The 10X Goal Mindset: Embracing the 10X goal mindset can be transformative. It challenges you to rethink everything in your business. Setting a goal that is significantly beyond your current position forces you to examine what needs to change to make that goal possible.
Putting Goals into Action: Once your goals are set, it's time to develop a plan to achieve them. Utilize the SMART goal framework – Specific, Measurable, Achievable, Relevant, and Time-bound. By creating goals that meet these criteria, you can clearly track your progress and make necessary adjustments along the way.
Monitoring Progress and Making Adjustments: Regularly review your progress and ensure that you're on track to achieve your goals. At the end of each month, evaluate your outcomes and make any necessary adjustments.
Conclusion:
As we enter a new year, take the time to set financial goals that align with your personal aspirations. Reflect on your past accomplishments, consider audacious 10X goals, and develop a plan using the SMART goal framework. By setting clear and actionable goals, you can make 2024 your best year yet. Remember, your financial success is within reach when you combine intentionality, strategic planning, and the drive to reach new heights.
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In this podcast episode, host, Julie Herres discusses the challenges faced by therapy practice owners. Topics covered include the ongoing trends of low referrals and low conversions in the fall of 2023, difficulty in achieving productivity goals, and the importance of tracking metrics and establishing robust financial systems. Julie goes on to recommend solutions that can improve the financial conditions of therapy private practices, underlining the importance of clarity and accessibility in financial systems while noting the difference between accounts receivable from different practices. The episode also delves into the significance of having an effective billing system for maintaining regular cash flow in a practice.
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In this enlightening episode of “Therapy for Your Money,” we had the pleasure of hosting Emily and Julie Herres. Both experts dive deep into the intricacies of state taxes, the importance of hiring tax professionals, and the potential pitfalls of self-preparation. Their insights are particularly valuable for those in the counseling and therapy fields, aiming to strike a balance between their passion for helping others and the practicalities of running a profitable business.
The Complexity of State Taxes
Emily emphasizes the complexity of state taxes, noting that they can be even more intricate than federal taxes. She points out, "Your state taxes are probably even more complex and unique than the federal taxes." As businesses expand or deal with clients and employees across state lines, understanding multi-state apportionment becomes crucial. Julie adds, "Multi-state apportionment is extremely complex...every state has a different formula for it." This underscores the importance of being well-versed in the tax requirements of not just one's home state, but potentially multiple states.
The Value of a Tax Professional
Both Emily and Julie champion the benefits of hiring a tax professional. As Emily states, "Your tax professionals can help you save money and save tax." They are equipped with the knowledge of all possible deductions, tax credits, and strategies that can be leveraged to one's advantage. Julie further elaborates on the potentially costly mistakes one might make when self-preparing, such as missing due dates or filing the wrong tax form. She mentions, "Filing the wrong return...can be a really, really expensive mistake."
Time is Money
One of the standout points of the discussion is the value of time. Emily succinctly puts it as, "It's not worth your time." For business owners, especially those in the therapy field, their expertise lies in their practice, not in tax preparation. Julie observes that successful practice owners surround themselves with experts in various fields, allowing them to focus on what they do best. She notes, "They are not trying to be experts at everything."
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GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.comTherapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.comProfit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.comProfit First Academy - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com/Academy
On Episode 118, join our host, Julie Herres, and special guest, Jacquie Kiefer of Green Oak Accounting, for a guiding discussion about the fourth-quarter financial trends and challenges faced by therapy practice owners. In this captivating dialogue, they delve into issues that are impacting the industry's monetary climate, from dwindling referrals to the implications of accelerating inflation on private practices. The conversation also sheds light on the rising popularity of therapy applications, such as BetterHelp, and its corresponding effects on the industry.
The discussion concludes with valuable end-of-year financial strategies designed specifically for private practice owners, aimed at ensuring monetary sustainability and resilience in unpredictable times. Through this episode, gain critical insights into the financial realities within the therapy sector and pick up substantial advice on managing your practice's finances.
In this episode, you will discover:
Fuel your practice's financial health by arming yourself with the knowledge presented in this eye-opening episode! Stay informed, keep learning, and let's face it together because we want you to have a profitable private practice—let's make that journey together.
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We've got an exciting new episode of our Live Stream Launch Party Series! On May 2nd, 2023, Julie released her book, Profit First for Therapists. We threw a huge online launch party with GreenOak Accounting team members, real practice owners who tell their stories in the book, and the original creator of Profit First, Mike Michalowicz to celebrate this exciting event. We wanted to share the stories told during our launch event with our podcast listeners so you could be part of the celebration with us!
On today's episode, we're joined by Jessica Tappana, Whitney Owens, Uriah Guilford, and Gordon Brewer! These industry leaders have expanded their businesses from private practice to podcasting to consulting and so much more. They were so excited to share their stories with our Launch Party viewers, and are even more excited to share with our podcast listeners today.
LINKS & RESOURCES
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Profit First Academy - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com/Academy
In the ever-challenging landscape of the mental health industry, private practice owners often grapple with burnout. Julie Herres highlights the significance of having a clear financial goal or "number" to navigate these challenges. "It has been a hard couple of years in the mental health industry," Julie remarks, emphasizing the power of a financial target to bring clarity and direction.
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Conclusion:
Financial well-being transcends mere numbers. It's rooted in the peace of mind derived from financial security. By grasping the balance between income and assets and pinpointing a personal "comfort number," practice owners can confidently face industry challenges. As Julie succinctly states, "Knowing your financial goals and working towards them can provide the motivation and security you need to thrive in your practice."
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We have another exciting new episode today all about a game changing strategy that can significantly boost your ROI as a private practice owner – collaboration. Mental health professionals often emphasize the importance of collaboration in their therapeutic work, but have you considered how collaboration can extend beyond therapy sessions and positively impact the financial health of your practice? Whether you're a seasoned practitioner or just starting, the power of collaboration can't be underestimated. Julie is joined by Stephanie Korpal and Christy Pennison of the Practice Collab to talk about their successes through the power of collaboration.
Stephanie Korpal and Christy Pennison are both group practice owners with multiple locations. Both women are passionate about their group practices, teams, and communities they serve--Stephanie in St. Louis and Chicago, Christy in central Louisiana (Alexandria and Natchichoes to be exact). That passion also extends to fellow group practice owners, a role they both know takes so much! Together, they have founded and launched a unique, special place for group practice bosses to connect, collaborate, and crush it. Their business, The Practice Collab, is designed to help practice owners work less, make more, and live most.
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GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Profit First Academy - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com/Academy
The Practice Collab - www.ThePracticeCollab.com
Traction by Gino Wickman
The Culture Code by Daniel Coyle
In today's episode, we'll be exploring a new topic - 529 College Savings Plans! We believe that every child's potential deserves to be nurtured, and that includes paving the way for their educational aspirations. Together, let's navigate the world of 529 plans... not just as a financial tool but as a means to cultivate a sense of security and confidence for your family.
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GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Profit First Academy - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com/Academy
Welcome to episode 119 of the "Therapy for Your Money" podcast! Host Julie Herres dives into effective ways to boost income in a group practice without solely relying on marketing efforts. Her guest, Nicole McCance, a former psychologist and founder of a thriving group practice, shares invaluable insights drawn from her journey of scaling her practice and transitioning into coaching. McCance emphasizes the importance of tapping into your existing client base and optimizing internal processes.
To learn more about McCance's coaching program and insights, listeners can access her "Expand Your Practice Starter Kit" and explore her podcast, "The Business Savvy Therapist."
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GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com**
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Profit First Academy - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com/Academy
The Business Savvy Therapist - www.mccancemethod.com/podcast-library
Free Gift from Nicole - Expand Your Practice Starter Kit
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Having a contingency plan for your business may have never crossed your mind before... but it's more important to have than you may think! Julie's sitting down with the master of planning herself, Mary Beth Simón, to talk about what you need a contingency plan for and what items you should include in yours.
Mary Beth guides business owners to create contingency plans that prepare them and their teams for extended vacations or the unexpected, so the business can continue to run successfully in their absence. She founded Niche Partnership Consulting after seeing the turmoil that a lack of contingency planning can cause when a dear friend developed terminal cancer. Mary Beth is a national conference speaker, continuous learner and loves helping business owners find peace of mind since retiring from a 30+ year career at Vanguard. In her free time, she's active in her local business community and loves being mom to her rescue dogs.
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LINKS & RESOURCES
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Profit First Academy - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com/Academy
Business Model Generation by Alexander Osterwalder
FREE Online Course for Business Owner SOPs
Today, we're getting personal! It can be difficult finding a healthy balance between being a business owner, a parent or spouse, and your own independent person. Julie's chatting with us about how she manages to head her team at GreenOak, prepare for the future of her kiddos and spouse, and take care of herself in between!
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GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Profit First Academy - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com/Academy
At Therapy For Your Money, we strongly believe in practice owners tracking their metrics in order to understand how well their business is performing. Julie is joined by an exciting, new guest, Brent Stutzman! Brent is sharing the key metrics he likes to track in his client's private practices, and why tracking these specifically are so important.
Brent Stutzman is the owner of Brand Your Practice, Inc. and a certified Storybrand Guide. After helping his wife launch her practice in 2016, he saw a need to help other therapists launch, market, and grow their practices. Since then he’s launched and scaled over 12 private practices across the country leveraging hi private practice accelerator framework. He’s excited about the public launch of TheraSaaS- a HIPAA-compliant cloud-based tool to help therapy practices capture, nurture, and convert new client leads. He lives in Chicagoland with his wife of 19 years, and their 3 beautiful children.
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS
LINKS & RESOURCES
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Profit First Academy - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com/Academy
Brent Stutzman - www.BrandYourPractice.com
Brent's Private Practice Startup Checklist
While setting your fees may seem like an impossible and emotional feat, today's guest takes the task and turns it into a formula you definitely want to try! Julie's chatting with Erin Gibb, a jack of all trades in the therapy world, about how setting your fees needs to start with you in mind first.
Erin Gibb is a therapist, clinical supervisor, group practice owner, Therapist Fulfillment coach, podcast host, and early adopted of the weird and wonderful that accelerates expansion. She created Therapist Expanded after years of mentoring clinicians and seeing how deeply the industry conditioning of self-sacrifice, over-responsibility, and liability fear goes, and how courageously living from the source of our dreams and desires incites mental health revolution. As a Therapist Fulfillment Coach, she offers experimental containers designed to unearth and clarify your deepest dreams, visions, and strategies, so you can live life truly fulfilled.
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LINKS & RESOURCES
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Profit First Academy - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com/Academy
Erin Gibb - www.TherapistExpanded.com
We're starting an exciting new series today, our Live Stream Launch Party Series! On May 2nd, 2023, Julie released her book, Profit First for Therapists. We threw a huge online launch party with GreenOak Accounting team members, real practice owners who tell their stories in the book, and the original creator of Profit First, Mike Michalowicz to celebrate this exciting event. We wanted to share the stories told during our launch event with our podcast listeners so you could be part of the celebration with us!
On today's episode, we're joined by three wonderful members of the GreenOak Accounting team - Kelly Jewell, Carolyn Chrestman, and Misstie Pollard. They share their experiences helping clients implement the Profit First methodology into their practices, and some tried and true tricks of the trade to get started!
LINKS & RESOURCES
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Profit First Academy - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com/Academy
Choosing an accountant that best fits the needs of your practice can seem intimidating but today's episode will put your mind at ease! Julie's chatting with Linzy Bonham, the genius behind Money Nuts & Bolts, to discuss what kind of questions you should ask a new accountant, how to figure out your accounting needs, and how to manage your expectations of an accountants scope.
Linzy Bonham is a private practice therapist turned money coach who helps private practice owners and health professionals feel calm and in control of their finances through her coaching at Money Nuts & Bolts and her podcast Money Skills for Therapists. It all started when she saw her extremely skilled colleagues struggle with the money side of business. Some had even left private practice, or were avoiding starting one, because the financial side was too stressful. So, Linzy decided to help therapists and health professionals develop peace of mind about their money. Since so many were never taught these skills, she focuses on the "how" of making the business side of private practice doable, and even super satisfying.
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS
LINKS & RESOURCES
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Profit First Academy - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com/Academy
Linzy Bonham - www.MoneyNutsAndBolts.com
The Secret to Getting Unstuck in Your Finances
Welcome back to Therapy For Your Money Season 4!
When we say that every practice deserves to be profitable... we mean it! Through working with hundreds of clients, we understand that discussing finances in the therapy industry can cause a lot of guilt and anxiety. We're here to dispel those feelings and build your practice into your dream business.
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS
LINKS & RESOURCESGreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Profit First Academy - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com/Academy
We wanted to give you a little update this summer and chat about some subjects that have been brought up with our GreenOak Accounting clients! Julie's chatting with one of our fantastic accounting managers, Jacquie Kiefer, about what her clients have been asking at the end of their second quarters and how to knock out the rest of the year. The summer slow seasons and attending conferences are just a couple of the great topics we're covering today!
Jacquie Kiefer is an Accounting Manager at GreenOak Accounting. She is passionate about helping her clients see the big picture and how their companies are progressing. She lives in the details of each client's day-to-day business, and prides herself in helping them achieve their goals! Originally from Colorado, she now calls Florida home, spending most of her free time adventuring with her boyfriend and their five dogs, fishing, hunting, and enjoying the outdoors.
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS
LINKS & RESOURCES
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Have no fear... We are here to break the cycle of negative discussions that surround making money in the therapy industry! The work that therapists and private practice owners do is so important, and it is one of our missions to ensure all therapy industry professionals are compensated for the incredible work they do. Today, Julie is joined by Katie Read to chat about breaking the chain of negative talk surrounding money in the therapy world.
Katie takes lessons from her nearly-20 successful years in the field to help clinicians grow...then OUTgrow...their practices. Immediately upon licensure, Katie was made Director of a large Transitional Aged Youth program in Oakland, CA. Later, she was recruited to Direct one of Sacramento’s largest Wraparound Programs, and from there she moved into the role of Director of Clinical Supervision, personally supervising 40+ interns towards licensure. Concurrently, Katie had private practices in multiple cities, taught graduate psychology students, and wrote and created therapist training materials. She is the creator of The Clinician to Coach® Academy, The Clini-Coach® Certification, and the Six-Figure Flagship® Program. Katie helps other helping professionals step into their biggest lives…so they can serve in the biggest ways.
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS
LINKS & RESOURCES
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Katie Read - www.KatieRead.com
Traction by Gino Wickman
Buying or leasing office space can be tricky territory to navigate when you're already managing your practice on a day to day basis! It can be hard to determine whether you should lease or buy, how much space you will need depending on your practice size, and if you have intentions of growing your practice over the next 10+ years. Julie is chatting with Colin Carr, a real estate specialist who is here to answer our questions about real estate in the private practice world!
Colin Carr is the founder and CEO of CARR, the nation’s leading provider of commercial real estate services for healthcare tenants and buyers. Every year, thousands of healthcare practices trust CARR to help them achieve the most favorable terms on their lease and purchase negotiations. Colin has been involved in commercial real estate for over two decades and has personally completed over 1,000 transactions.
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS
LINKS & RESOURCES
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Colin Car - www.Carr.us
If you've ever thought about selling your practice, then today's episode is for YOU! There are many components that play into successfully selling your practice and our guest, Gabrielle Juliano-Villani, is here to share her experience.
Gabrielle Juliano-Villani is a licensed clinical social worker, consultant, coach, entrepreneur, and educator based in Sarasota, Florida. She has been in the mental health field for over a decade, specializing in stress, chronic health conditions, and trauma. After realizing her own burnout in 2021, she sold her thriving group practice and and made her mission to educate others on the impact stress has on our everyday lives. Gabrielle pulls from her experience as an EMDR and Polyvagal Informed therapist to utilize mind/body approaches to help others implement everyday strategies to manage stress and live their best lives. When she's not working, Gabrielle is teaching Zumba, surfing, or reading a psychological thriller at the beach.
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS
LINKS & RESOURCES
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Money & The Law of Attraction
www.GabrielleJulianaVillani.com
Growing your private practice doesn't mean you have to immediately bring on new clinicians, buy a building, and hire a whole administrative team - You could start by simply hiring interns! To give us some insight on the ins and outs of adding interns into your practice, Julie is joined by Dr. Tara Sanderson.
Dr. Tara Sanderson is a Licensed Psychologist in Oregon, owner of a group practice, a clinical supervisor for residents and associates, and an author. She is also the creator of How to Have Interns in Your Practice, a comprehensive online platform that teaches practice owners the basics of adding interns to their businesses. As a clinician, she loves work with and talking about anxiety, OCD, perfectionism, and burnout. As a trainer and supervisor, Dr. Tara's heart lays in training up and empowering interns and pre-licensed professionals.
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS
LINKS & RESOURCES
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Dr. Tara Anderson
How To Have Interns in Your Practice
We wanted to celebrate our 100th episode and the release of Julie's new book, Profit First for Therapists, by taking a trip down memory lane with none other than the author of the original Profit First, Mike Michalowicz!
"Every time revenue comes into your practice, you subtract a predetermined amount as profit, and you run your business on the remainder" - Mike Michalowicz
The Profit First methodology has transformed thousands of struggling businesses into money making machines! If you're interested in implementing Profit First into your private practice, today's episode is made for you.
Make sure to order your copy of Profit First for Therapists by clicking HERE!
LINKS & RESOURCES
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Today is a very special episode for the Therapy For Your Money team... Julie is sharing her behind-the-scenes journey of writing Profit First for Therapists! She is giving us a glimpse into what the writing process looks like from the business side, and she's telling the personal story of her life and experiences throughout writing the book.
Pre-order your copy of Profit First For Therapists by clicking here!
LINKS & RESOURCES
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Creating a cohesive brand for your practice is just as important as creating a personal brand for yourself! Whether you're interested in expanding your service offerings or wanting to step away from your practice, having a personal brand is essential. Julie's chatting with one of our favorite guests from Season One, Maegan Megginson, about creating a personal brand and how it can add value to your business.
Maegan Megginson is a licensed therapist, 7-figure entrepreneur, and business coach for therapists ready to take their careers to the next level. She's also the founder of The Rest & Success Code, the charity fundraising event that inspires therapists to become deeply rested and wildly successful.
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS
LINKS & RESOURCES
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Maegan Megginson - www.MaegenMegginson.com
Personality Power Pack
Express Yourself Studio
Deep Work by Cal Newport
We all know that achieving "perfection" is a very unrealistic goal in our day-to-day lives! When it comes to managing your finances, we understand how the pressure of being "perfect" may lead to avoidance, which ultimately only makes the state of things worse. Today, Julie's chatting with one of our favorite guests, Linzy Bonham, about how the pressure of financial "perfection" can lead to burnout and procrastination.
Linzy Bonham is a therapist in private practice, a consultant who helps therapists feel calm and in control of their finances, and the creator of the Money Skills for Therapists course. As the daughter of an accountant, Linzy inherited a good dose of bookkeeping brain. She's half therapist, half bookkeeper! So when she went into private practice, she dug right into all the ways to build a healthy business that pays for her life and always has extra money in the bank. Now Linzy helps therapists develop peace of mind about their money. Since so many therapists were never taught about money, she focuses on the 'how' of making the financial side of private practice doable, and even super satisfying!
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS
LINKS & RESOURCES
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Money Nuts & Bolts - www.MoneyNutsAndBolts.com
Money Skills for Therapists Podcast
Wintering by Katherine May
Setting cash pay rates can be tricky! You want to make sure you're offering a competitive rate in your area and still honor your time and skill set as a therapist. Another key thing to consider... as your private practices grows and your team begins to expand, you may find yourself contemplating the different options of compensation you can offer! Bonuses, PTO, health insurance, and retirement plans are all great options, but it may be challenging to know when you can afford to implement these options. Today, Julie's joined by Whitney Owens to talk about the different changes your practice will go through when setting cash pay rates and adding benefits for your team members.
Whitney Owens is a Licensed Professional Counselor and Private Practice Consultant in Savannah, Georgia. In addition to running her practice, she offers individual and group consulting through Practice of the Practice. She is also the host of The Wise Practice podcast and the Faith in Practice podcast! Whitney places a special emphasis on helping clinicians start and grow faith-based practices.
If you're interested in schedule a consultation with GreenOak Accounting, click here!
Pre-order your copy of Profit First For Therapists by clicking here!
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS
LINKS & RESOURCES
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Whitney Owens - www.WhitneyOwens.com
The Wise Practice Podcast
Wise Practice Summit 2023
Rate Increase Letter Example
Spending on marketing without effectively tracking metrics can take a big toll on the financial health of your practice! Ensuring you have a solid website, are advertising on the right platforms, and reaching your target audience will drive your marketing dollars in the right direction. We're chatting with John Sanders from RevKey about the ROI (Return on Investment) when it comes to marketing therapy practices.
John Sanders is an expert in marketing, specifically in paid search engine ads. He enjoys helping businesses generate leads through search platforms that ultimately help their businesses grow. Many of John's clients are mental health professionals including therapists, counselors, and psychologists.
Click here to pre-order your copy of Profit First for Therapists!
Click here for your Profit First for Therapist pre-order bonuses!
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS
LINKS & RESOURCES
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
RevKey - www.RevKey.com
ROI Calculator
They Ask, You Answer by Marcus Sheridan
We have a very exciting episode today! Julie is reading an excerpt from her new book, Profit First for Therapists, all about compensation. Team compensation is the single-largest expense for a group practice, and having a clear system in place yields the best results for your business.
Click here to pre-order your copy of Profit First for Therapists!
Click here for your Profit First for Therapist pre-order bonuses!
LINKS & RESOURCES
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Tax season is upon us! One of the biggest worries we often hear from our clients is that they may be audited, and while that is unlikely to happen if you properly file your taxes, it's important to have some information to feel prepared. Today, Julie is joined by Ben Golden of IRS Trouble Solvers to talk about who may be audited, what to do if you are audited, and that audit's don't have to be scary!
Ben learned the value of hard work on his family’s farm in rural Alabama feeding and milking the cows and driving a tractor cutting hay, amongst many other duties, after school at the young and tender age of eight. These hard-earned farm family values were instilled in him very early on and have carried through with him, always. Tax resolution is not just a profession to him. It is, indeed, personal as he has had his own experiences dealing with the IRS fighting to right issues which arise from Identity Theft and an IRS Agent failing to follow proper protocol. These issues brought him into repeated interactions with various IRS agents, officers, and multiple units within the IRS. These experiences only reaffirmed what Ben already knew: Individuals and professionals untrained in tax resolution are at a tremendous disadvantage dealing with the IRS. Having fought his own battles with the IRS, Ben’s clients can count on him to fight for the best resolution possible with compassion, integrity and the utmost professionalism garnered over his career and practice.
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS
LINKS & RESOURCES
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
www.IRSTroubleSolvers.com
Contact Ben - Ben@IRSTroubleSolvers.com
We've got a short and sweet episode today with one of our fantastic team members over at GreenOak Accounting who has a pulse on what's going on in the therapy world! Our teams have just wrapped up their quarterly client meetings and we wanted to give you an inside scoop on some of the common problems private practices are facing at the moment.
Jacquie Kiefer is an Accounting Manager at GreenOak Accounting. She is passionate about helping her clients see the big picture and how their companies are progressing. She lives in the details of each client's day-to-day business, and prides herself in helping them achieve their goals! Originally from Colorado, she now calls Florida home, spending most of her free time adventuring with her boyfriend and their five dogs, fishing, hunting, and enjoying the outdoors.
If you're interested in schedule a consultation with GreenOak Accounting, click here!
Pre-order your copy of Profit First For Therapists by clicking here!
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS
LINKS & RESOURCES
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
There are many different avenues you may travel when it comes to your marketing journey... you may focus on getting on a variety of insurance panels, investing in online marketing, or taking a simple approach with local print advertisements. Today, we've brought in the expert to share exactly how to get the most bang for your buck in marketing your private practice.
Joshua Brummel is the co-founder of Therapy Flow and is based out of Chicago with his wife and son. For the last 5 years, Joshua has been helping counseling practices develop modern marketing, create value-driven sales processes and build sustainable operations that produce 6 & 7-figure practices. His team has worked with over a thousand practices and has managed more than 3 million dollars of paid advertising for counseling practices.
Pre-order your copy of Profit First For Therapists by clicking here!
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS
LINKS & RESOURCES
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Therapy Flow - www.MyTherapyFlow.com
Deep Work by Cal Newport
Digital Minimalism by Cal Newport
Welcome to the Therapy For Your Money School of Accounting! Today, Julie's going over key financial terms that are vital to running a successful business.
Pre-order your copy of Profit First For Therapists by clicking here!
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS
LINKS & RESOURCES
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Your private practice and personal finances are more intertwined than you may think! Figuring out what you need to maintain a comfortable lifestyle directly correlates to the revenue your business needs to generate in order to maintain that lifestyle. Today, Julie's sitting down with Nicholle Overkamp of PowHERhouse Money Coaching to talk about making your money work for you, your lifestyle, and your practice.
Nicholle Overkamp is a personal finance expert and business coach for women She's the Founder and CEO of both Wilcox Financial Group and PowHERhouse Money Coaching. Nicholle uses her money mastery skills to foster no-judgement environments where women can be open and shameless about their finances and habits. She knows that a critical factor in growing wealth is one's mindset and sense of self-worth - it's about setting boundaries, having discipline, and knowing you are worth every dollar you invest in yourself, your future, and your life.
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS
LINKS & RESOURCES
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Atomic Habits by James Clear
PowHERhouse Money - www.PowerHERhouseMoney.com
Wilcox Financial - www.WilcoxFinancialGroup.com
If you've ever had a feeling of doubt that you deserve to have a successful practice after all the hard work you've put into running your business, you may be experiencing Imposter Syndrome. Today, Julie's chatting about how Imposter Syndrome may affect your finances and a few tips for how to combat it!
Click here to check out our Starting A Group Practice Workshop! Use the coupon code "LASTCALL" to get 25% off your registration until February 26th, 2023!
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS
LINKS & RESOURCESGreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
As a business owner, there can be a lot of hoops and hurdles you have to jump through to run a successful business... It's time to change that mindset by owning your CEO status and learning how hiring and delegation can be used as powerful tools to build your dream practice. Julie's chatting with Brandy Mabra of Savvy Clover about how your money mindset and role as the CEO of your practice can help you grow your dream team.
Brandy Mabra is the CEO of Savvy Clover Coaching & Consulting and a CEO Coach for private practice owners in healthcare. She has 15+ years of business management and leadership experience, where she has worked in diverse business climates and has turned hot mess practices into well oiled and profitable machines. Brandy has spent her career building, growing and leading multi-million dollar practices and now uses her skill set to help other women private practice owners to scale their practices for growth, sustainability and profit. She has a bachelors from The Ohio State University and a Masters in Health Administration from A.T. Still University. She is also a Certified Professional Coach and Master Energy Leadership Practitioner, receiving her credentials from the Institute for Professional Excellence in Coaching (iPEC). Brandy was part of the 2022 Forbes Coaches Council, and is a part of Entrepreneur Leadership Network. She has been featured in Forbes, Fast Company, Entrepreneur, PopSugar, Create & Cultivate and several well known podcasts. She is the founder of Private Practice CEO™ - the CEO school for private practice owners - which empowers her clients to own their CEO status as the leader of their business so they can have a practice with streamline operations and an engaged team that can run without them. Brandy loves to travel and spend time with her family. She believes you cannot build a business on fumes and CEO breaks are required.
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS
LINKS & RESOURCESGreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Savvy Clover - www.SavvyClover.com
Beyond Entrepreneurship 2.0 by Jim Collins
Expansion can be a scary (but exciting!) time for private practices. We believe that having a data-driven plan is the best way to approach growing your business! Make sure to listen to the full episode to hear some tips from Julie's upcoming book, Profit First For Therapists, available for pre-order now!
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:
* Businesses that grow rapidly are at a higher risk of running out of cash
+ Payroll will increase, overhead will increase, and the demand for cash may outgrow the speed in which revenue is coming in
* 3 Phases of Growth
+ Planning & Analysis
- The longest phase - how much exactly is the expansion going to cost and where is the money going to come from?
+ Growth
- It's important to recognize that you may be responsible for many roles during this phase and could potentially take home a less than typical pay
+ The New Normal
- This is when the financials and roles of the practice begin to stabilize
* Make sure to listen through the entire episode for some Profit First For Therapists bonus tips!
CLICK HERE if you are interested in pre-ordering your own copy of Profit First for Therapists
Also, make sure to visit www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com to register your pre-order and gain access to your bonus content!
LINKS & RESOURCES:
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Drumroll please... Julie is ecstatic to announce that her book, Profit First For Therapists, is available for pre-order! Take a listen to Julie’s personal Profit First journey, her process with writing the book, and all the special bonus offers available to anyone who pre-orders a copy.
CLICK HERE if you are interested in pre-ordering your own copy of Profit First for Therapists
Also, make sure to visit www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com to register your pre-order and gain access to your bonus content!
LINKS & RESOURCES:
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Have you ever wondered what your retirement options are as a practice owner? Well, your questions are about to be answered! Today, Julie is sitting down with Gulielma Fager of the Toler Financial Group to talk about all things retirement.
Before Gulielma because a licensed financial advisor, she spent 20 years in the reproductive health and sex education field, helping individuals, couples, and families answer embarrassing questions and solve deeply private problems. The interpersonal and communication skills she gained have proven to be incredibly useful in talking with people about money. For the last 5 years, she has owned a public health consulting practice, working with a variety of organizational clients to improve health equity and outcomes. Additionally, she managed her husband's private therapy practice, growing the business, instituting payroll and retirement plans, and ensuring compliance with Maryland state regulations. She, her husband, and their two dogs live in the historic mill village of Hampden/Woodberry in Baltimore (Go O's!), where she trains for and competes in triathlons. She also loves to travel, especially by Amtrak sleeper car.
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS
LINKS & RESOURCES
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Toler Financial Group - www.TolerFinancialGroup.com
Deduct It!: Lower Your Small Business Taxes by Stephen Fishman J.D.
To wrap up 2022, we wanted to switch things up and bring you a brand new episode that highlights our listeners' favorite Therapy For Your Money moments!
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:
LINKS & RESOURCES
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Managing a group practice can sometimes feel like an uphill battle, but maximizing your revenue can take a lot of the pressure off your shoulders! When it comes to running a healthy business, it's important to take a look at your numbers and ensure your clinicians are meeting your expectations. Today, Julie's chatting with Jacquie Kiefer of GreenOak Accounting about her expertise in helping clinicians maximize their revenue!
Jacquie Kiefer is an Accounting Manager at GreenOak Accounting. She is passionate about helping her clients see the big picture and how their companies are progressing. She lives in the details of each client's day-to-day business, and prides herself in helping them achieve their goals! Originally from Colorado, she now calls Florida home, spending most of her free time adventuring with her boyfriend and their five dogs, fishing, hunting, and enjoying the outdoors.
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS
LINKS & RESOURCES
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Calling all solo practice owners! If you're interested in expanding into a group practice, today's episode is for YOU. There are so many things to think about when it comes to expanding your practice, so we've compiled some information that we think is most useful when setting up your expansion for financial success!
Today's guest is Carolyn Chrestman of GreenOak Accounting. Carolyn is an Enrolled Agent and one of the Accounting Managers at GreenOak, and she loves helping her clients expand their businesses! She enjoys educating and empowering her clients to understand their finances. Carolyn came to finance by way of a career in education, and has the superpower to translate "accountant-speak" into terms a normal human can understand. In her spare time, Carolyn can be found running after her 3 kids, hiking, or reading.
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS
Don't forget to use code "EARLYBIRD" to get a discount on our Starting A Group Practice Workshop! Click HERE to register!
LINKS & RESOURCES
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
This week's episode is all about unique strategies you can implement into your private practice in order to provide more accessible care within your community! Julie's sitting down with Vanessa Newton of Colors of Austin Counseling Group and Brave and Well to chat about the many ways she has expanded her outreach and accessibility within her own community.
Vanessa Newton, LCSW-S is a first generation Latina and Entrepreneur. She is the Owner and Founder of Colors of Austin Counseling, a group practice in Austin, TX that provides mental health services to clients in the state of Texas. She also created Brave and Well as a community for therapists seeking to launch or expand their private practice and believes in supporting clinicians in building businesses that are sustainable, profitable, and value-aligned. She has spent over a decade working with teens, survivors of trauma, LatinX women and communities of culture. Her training in EMDR and the curriculum of Brené Brown has helped transform the way clients heal. She believes in removing barriers of access to mental health treatment for all and uplifting the future generation of therapists so that together we can decolonize mental health and business.
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS
LINKS & RESOURCES
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Brave and Well - www.braveandwell.com
Colors of Austin Counseling - www.colorsofaustincounseling.com
Emergent Strategy by Adrienne Maree Brown
We know practice owners are always on the hunt for new tax tips to help reduce their taxes, and this episode is full of them! We want to make sure you have ample time to maximize your tax savings for 2022 and better prepare for your taxes in 2023. Julie's joined by the Tax Manager of GreenOak Accounting, Emily Grauerholz, and enjoys a chat all about her favorite end-of-year tax saving tips!
Emily Grauerholz is the Tax Manager on the GreenOak Accounting team. She enjoys problem-solving and is passionate about helping others because she loves to see clients succeed. In her spare time, Emily enjoys spending time with her kids and helping her husband on the family farm.
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS
LINKS & RESOURCES
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
If you are starting to grow your solo practice (or are looking to restructure your current group practice compensation model) then today's episode was made for you! Julie's chatting with a member of the GreenOak Accounting team, Jacquie Kiefer, about all things compensation and some common problems you can easily avoid when creating a compensation model for your practice.
Jacquie Kiefer is an Accounting Manager at GreenOak Accounting. She is passionate about helping her clients see the big picture and how their companies are progressing. She lives in the details of each client's day-to-day business, and prides herself in helping them achieve their goals! Originally from Colorado, she now calls Florida home, spending most of her free time adventuring with her boyfriend and their five dogs, fishing, hunting, and enjoying the outdoors.
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS
LINKS & RESOURCES
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
There's been a lot of talk about a recession lately... Are we currently in one? When will the next one be? How long will it last? While we don't have a crystal ball with all the answers, we do have some awesome tips to help you prepare for an inevitable recession!
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:
LINKS & RESOURCES
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
At Therapy For Your Money, we're big believers in supporting the therapists and clinicians that make such a great impact on our communities. Today, we're talking about a great way to increase your revenue, offer new opportunities to your clinicians, and widen the impact your practice can have through the Clinical Supervision Directory! Today, Julie's chatting with Dr. Amy Parks all about the Clinical Supervision Directory and how you can implement it into your practice.
Dr. Amy Parks has over 30 years of experience working with children, adolescents, and families as both an educator and psychologist. She has a Doctorate in Educational Psychology with a specialty in developmental neuroscience. She is a Child & Adolescent Psychologist as well as the founder and Clinical Director of WISE Mind Solutions LLC and The Wise Family Counseling, Assessment & Education in Virginia. She is also the founder of the Clinical Supervision Directory - an online platform for supervision-seekers working toward licensure to match with a supervisor in the US that best fits their needs.
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS
LINKS & RESOURCES
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
The Clinical Supervision Directory - www.TheClinicalSupervisionDirectory.com
Atomic Habits by James Clear
Since the inception of Therapy For Your Money, we have received so many requests to do this episode, so here it finally is... all about selling your private practice! Julie collaborated with a Development & Acquisition Specialist to answer all of our listener's burning questions about what it entails to sell their practices. If you're interested in finding out where to start, how to go into negotiations confidently, and what all a buyer might be looking for, then today's episode is for you.
DISCLAIMER - The details of this episode should not be used for professional advice. Please seek out an acquisition specialist and an attorney if you are interested in selling your practice. Any scenarios or advice provided in this episode may not pertain to the specific needs of your practice.
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS
LINKS & RESOURCESGreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
Welcome back to Season 3 of Therapy For Your Money! We're kicking off this season with a unique episode composed of some personal questions our listeners have asked over our previous 2 seasons, and Julie's sitting down today to answer them.
Julie is the owner of GreenOak Accounting, an accounting firm dedicated to helping private practice owners and therapists grow their financial knowledge and expand their businesses. Over the years, Julie's niche client group came naturally (and by total accident!), but it turned out to be a blessing in disguise! GreenOak Accounting has allowed Julie to expand her reach through this podcast, the writing of Profit First for Therapists, and by growing her diverse team of driven team members who share a common passion - helping people who help others.
Take a listen to today's episode to learn more and Julie and her journey building GreenOak Accounting from the ground up.
LINKS & RESOURCES:
GreenOak Accounting - www.GreenOakAccounting.com
Therapy For Your Money Podcast - www.TherapyForYourMoney.com
Profit First for Therapists - www.ProfitFirstForTherapists.com
We couldn't think of a better way to wrap up Season 2 than with a vacation episode! Today, we're kicking back and looking forward to the summer ahead, and want you to do the same.
Make sure to check out our summer reading list at the end of this episode!
Episode Highlights:
Links & Resources:
GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
Did you know there are TWO ways you can track your income and expenses? If you're unsure which method of accounting would work best for your private practice, today's episode is for you! We always recommend meeting with your tax professional to discuss this ins and outs of your finances, determine which method is best for you, and ensure your income and expenses are moving smoothly with your business needs.
Episode Highlights:
Links & Resources:
GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
Having a CFO (Chief Financial Officer) as a part of your business team can make all the difference! Along with offering their expertise of the financial world, they can provide budgets, forecasts, and metrics to help grow your business. Today's episode is all about CFOs and why you should consider bringing one on in your practice.
Episode Highlights:
Links & Resources:
GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
We have our last Tax Deduction episode of Season 2! If you've been wondering if you can consider your own personal therapy as a tax deduction, we've got the answer. Julie is joined again by Heidi Stepzinski, and they are talking about the different instances where meeting with a fellow therapist can be a tax deduction!
Episode Highlights:
DISCLAIMER: Always consult with a tax professional to determine what tax deductions you are eligible for.
Links & Resources:
GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
Dogs, cats, hamsters... Oh my! We're back with another episode in our Tax Deduction Series! Today, we are joined again by the wonderful Heidi Stepzinski of the GreenOak Accounting team to talk about therapy animals and how you could potentially save some money on your taxes if you have them!
Episode Highlights:
DISCLAIMER: Always consult with a tax professional to determine what tax deductions you are eligible for.
Links & Resources:
GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
As the "iron triangle" saying goes - "You can have it fast, you can have it good, you can have it cheap... but you can only pick two".
Making an investment in a variety of facets in your business can definitely prevent you from running into issues in the long-term or having to reinvent the wheel. Specifically, when it comes to accounting and bookkeeping, paying for quality services from the get-go can save you so much hassle (and possibly a lot of cash!) in the future.
Click HERE to listen to Episode 50: What should you look for in a bookkeeper, accountant, or CPA?
Episode Highlights:
Links & Resources:
GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
Whether your team is growing or your practice is going through leadership changes, there can be a number of reasons why it might seem efficient to share the financial picture of the business with certain team members. However, this can definitely be a slippery slope! Julie's chatting with Heidi Stepzinski of the GreenOak Accounting team to talk about when it makes sense to share the finances of the business, and some alternative solutions that can help keep your finances private.
Heidi Stepzinski is the Accounting Director and one of the licensed CPAs at GreenOak Accounting. Heidi is passionate about guiding her clients to meet their financial goals and helping them make data driven decisions to overall benefit their practice. In her spare time, Heidi enjoys spending time with her family, is an advisor for her college sorority, and loves being outdoors.
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GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
Not all EHRs are created equal, and there are pros and cons to each software, which can make it difficult to decide which one is the best fit for your practice. Today, we're sitting down to discuss the top 4 EHR softwares we come across over at GreenOak Accounting, and give you a cost breakdown of each!
Hannah Rich is the Business Manager (and tech wizard!) at GreenOak Accounting. She works hand-in-hand with our team members and clients to ensure a seamless service experience, and handles oversight of the day-to-day operations. She holds a degree in Business Administration and enjoys expanding her vast knowledge of technology to implement efficient systems at GreenOak each day. In her free time, she loves binging a good Netflix show with her husband, partner, and cats!
*Disclaimer - We are evaluating these EHR systems based only on the cost. Each practice is different based on their needs so make sure to research what is best for your practice.
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GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money
We're coming back this week with another episode of our Tax Deduction mini series all about International Business Travel! Julie's inspiration for this episode came from an invitation to participate in an international conference, which got her thinking about how international travel for business may be deductible.
Take a look at IRS Publication 463 by clicking here!
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Make sure to check out our blog post over at the GreenOak Accounting website all about international travel!
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GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
When you have an idea for an expansion to your business - such as an online course or a therapy retreat - it can be difficult to know where to start! Julie's chatting with Diane Tarshis of Startup Distillery to talk about how to focus on your ideas, create a plan, and turn to experts in places you may need help.
Use code "therapy" to receive 1 FREE hour of consulting with Diane!
Diane Tarshis is a seasoned business advisor and the founder of Startup Distillery. Working with entrepreneurs across the US and around the globe, Diane uses her unique mix of finance, retail, manufacturing, and operations experience to help entrepreneurs distill their ideas into profitable, growing businesses.
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GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
Startup Distillery
Content Chemistry by Andy Crestodina
The Hundred Dollar Startup by Chris Guillebeau
One of the biggest investments you will make in your life is your practice! In order to make sure you get the most out of your investment down the road, it's important to sit down with a financial advisor and figure out how to increase the value of your investment and transition it into a forever plan. Today, Julie's chatting with Eric Miller of Econologics Financial Advisors about approaching financial planning with your best future in mind.
Eric Miller has been in the financial planning industry for over 20 years. He is Co-Owner of Econologics Financial Advisors and Chief Financial Advisor. He has a degree from Capital University and is a Registered Financial Consultant® (RFC) and Licensed Insurance Agent. He has managed over 500 Practice Owner Clients in various fields of healthcare. As the Chief Financial Advisor for the firm, Eric has had the good fortune to have had over 20,000 financial conversations with private practice owners guiding them into a more optimum financial condition using their proven system.
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GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
Econologics Financial Advisors
The next episode of our Tax Deductions mini-series is focusing on organizational and operation expenses! If you're thinking about opening up your own private practice, but aren't sure where to start when it comes to deducting start-up expenses, take a listen to this episode.
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GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
There are many opportunities to create a source of passive income in the therapy industry! Today, Julie’s sitting down with Business Coach & Strategist, Nicole Liloia, to talk about the pros & cons of passive income streams and how to decide which avenue would be best for your business.
Nicole Liloia's first business was a private practice where she worked with counseling clients and supervised other therapists, but she quickly added in new income streams so that she could travel while still running her business online. She got her Master's in Social Work from Columbia University and has contributed to Forbes, Huffington Post, Mind Body Green, and more. Nicole spends her free time shopping at Costco and loves a glass of wine.
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GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
Nicole Liloia
Get Rich, Lucky Bitch! by Denise Duffield Thomas
Today launches a new mini-series... Tax Deductions! Meals & Entertainment is the most common deduction we get questions about, and Julie's here to give you the scoop on which meals you can deduct, what kinds of entertainment qualify, and examples of some meals that aren't deductible.
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GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
The language of investing seems so foreign to many people, and it's very common to feel confused learning how to speak it! The problem is that being slammed with so much information at once can make navigating investments overwhelming and an unnecessary challenge. This week we're joined by a fantastic returning guest, David Frank from Turning Point HQ, to talk about the many ways you can invest as a private practice owner.
David is the owner of Turning Point Financial Life Planning located in California and works specifically with therapists in private practice. He strives to bring therapists and private practice owners a plan of action to meet their goals and help them lead more authentic lives.
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GreenOak Accounting
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David Frank - Turning Point HQ
Having those financial conversations with your clients can be difficult if you aren’t sure where to start! It’s important to have an open conversation with your clients, rather than shift your values, in order to offer them the best care possible. Your services can be effective, affordable, AND profitable – we’re here to teach you how!
Miranda Palmer and Kelly Higdon are the founds of ZynnyMe, a company that is dedicated to teaching therapists to build valuable businesses while living a healthy, happy, and sustainable life. Their team is passionate about the mental health field, and enjoy serving the private practice community to help increase incomes and improve outcomes.
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GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
ZynnyMe - Private Practice Experts
Making data driven decisions for your private practice can be greatly influenced by your individual money story, so it’s important to identify your relationship with money! We’re joined by Cassie Parks, the queen of manifesting your ideal money story, to talk about how your financial story can make a great impact on your private practice and different ways you can re-write your story.
Cassie Parks is the fairy godmother for people who struggle to manifest more than parking spaces. Through her positive reality podcast, books, and online coaching program, she shakes up your approach to using the law of attraction while making it all feel easy, practical, and of course fun. Her insights have been featured on Colorado's best, in the Huffington Post, and on one of the most downloaded episodes of Primal Blueprint.
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GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
Cassie Parks
Manifesting Success Stories Podcast
Rich Dad, Poor Dad by Robert T. Kiyosaki
Many private practice owners seek out different revenue streams through group programs or online coaching services... but it can be difficult to start! Today, Julie's chatting with Annie Schuessler about diversifying your income and giving you some tips for finding your niche.
Annie Schuessler is a business coach and the host of the podcast Rebel Therapist® Podcast. With her Rebel Therapist® Programs, she helps therapists, healers and coaches make an impact beyond a traditional private practice.
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GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
Rebel Therapist
The Art of Gathering by Priya Parker
It's time for another episode in our Q&A Series! Julie's sitting down with the Business Development Manager of GreenOak Accounting, Sarah Riley, to answer YOUR questions about taxes, savings, and buying property!
If you're interested in submitting a question for a future Q&A episode, click HERE to visit our submission page on our website!
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GreenOak Accounting
Schedule a Consultation
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
SEO (Search Engine Optimization) is a critical piece to your private practice's marketing puzzle - especially if you're a private-pay practices. SEO can greatly improve the traffic that comes to your website and increase your leads, but is it worth the money? Julie is sitting down with Jessica Tappana of Simplified SEO Consulting to talk about all things SEO!
Jessica Tappana understands both the world of private practice & SEO. She is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker with a private pay group psychotherapy practice in Missouri. In the course of building her practice, she learned SEO and founded Simplified SEO Consulting. She now leads a small team of professionals who are completely focused on helping private practice owners rank better on Google so they have more of the right clients calling.
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Simplified SEO Consulting
Profit First by Mike Michalowicz
StoryBrand by Don Miller
GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
2022 is right around the corner and we want to make sure you are fully prepared to close out your books and start the year out fresh! Julie's gathered her top tips to make closing out your 2021 books a breeze.
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Links & ResourcesGreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
On today’s episode, we’re following up with our friend Dr. David Goode-Cross from his last Coaching episode! He’s added some new team members and is ready to tackle some new challenges he’s facing in his practice, like expanding to a new location.
Dr. David Goode-Crosse is the owner and a psychotherapist at East Towson Psychological Services, located outside of Baltimore, Maryland. His practice specializes in working with the LGBTQ+ community, as well as people of color. David also enjoys mentoring new clinicians who are entering their professional fields from their educational programs, and offers them a vast amount of knowledge to help them excel their competence with working with BIPOC and LGBTQ+ clients.
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GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
East Towson Psychological Services
Tax season is right around the corner! Julie's sitting down with two members of the GreenOak Accounting Tax Team, Emily and Linda, to discuss our top tax tips for reducing your tax liability and optimize your benefits.
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GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
Balancing your books is definitely a challenge, and we always recommend consulting with a professional to ensure it's done right! We're breaking down the differences between a bookkeeper, accountant, CPA (Certified Public Accountant), and EA (Enrolled Agent), and giving you our recommendations on traits you should look for when choosing a financial professional for your business.
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GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
It's the most wonderful time of the year! Holidays are right around the corner and we are in the holiday mood, so this week we are talking about throwing holiday parties for your team, different types of bonuses you can offer to your employees, and what kind of gifts you can deduct on your taxes!
*Disclaimer: This episode applies to the 2021 tax year. Always consult with your tax preparer.
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GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
Incentivizing your team members by incorporating PTO, insurance, and even retirement plan benefits into your private practice can greatly improve your overall employment retention and strengthen your relationship with your employees. Today, Julie's chatting with Kristen Ballard of The Ballard Clinic about the many ways she can incorporate benefits into her business in a cost-effective way.
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GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
Ballard Clinic
Coming up with creative ways to market your private practice can be challenging, but today we're chatting with Ernesto Segismundo of FYLM IT: The Creative Group all about video marketing. Using videos to market your practice can help you expand your reach to new potential clients and solidify your brand.
Ernesto Segismundo is a licensed marriage and family therapist. Ernesto received his undergraduate degree in psychology from Biola University and received his Masters of Science degree in Clinical Psychology from Vanguard University. He has over 10 years of clinical counseling experience working in settings such as group homes, domestic violence shelters, churches, and outpatient programs. Ernesto treats marriage and family relationship problems. He also treats individuals suffering from depression, anxiety and addiction. Along with Ernesto's counseling experience, he has conducted various classes and seminars concerning relationships and mental health related topics such as parenting, substance abuse, maintaining healthy marriages, private practice social media and video marketing and managed care practices.
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GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
FYLM IT - The Creative Group
Ernesto Segismundo Facebook Group
Your practice is a very valuable asset, and it's important to know how much it's worth! Whether you're interested in selling your practice in the next year, or you'd like to get a head start on increasing the value of your practice, today's episode is for you.
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GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
It’s that time of year again! We are receiving a TON of questions about adding benefits to your group practice for your team members, and there are several factors that play in to adding benefits in successfully. Julie’s talking through the 5 most common benefits added to group practices and which benefits could be a great fit for your business!
*Disclaimer: We always recommend consulting with an employment attorney to make sure you are meeting all requirements of your state before implementing benefits for your employees.
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GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
Your patient’s confidentiality is one of the most important aspects of their therapy experience… so how do you ensure that all of your technology and softwares are HIPAA compliant without breaking the bank? That’s where Person Centered Tech comes in!
We’re chatting with Roy and Liath, the co-founders of Person Centered Tech, about their company and how they use technology and security as a lens to evaluate and update your operations for simplicity, usability, and cost effectiveness in your practice.
Roy Huggins, LPC NCC was an independent web developer for many years before making the transition to a therapy private practice. He quickly found that the mental health profession needed expert guidance on technology topics. Roy founded Person-Centered Tech (PCT) in 2010 after helping answer a colleague’s questions about legal and ethical use of email. His research to answer that first question exposed him to the industry’s difficulties applying the HIPAA-mandated risk assessment perspective to issues of technology.
Liath Dalton is PCT’s deputy director and a co-owner. As the group practice service plan manager, Liath is especially passionate about helping group practice leaders be resourced and supported in navigating the security compliance process and identifying the solutions and processes that meet the particular needs of their practices. Liath’s consultation area of expertise is focused on selecting the right combination of services and tech that not only meet the legal-ethical needs of mental health practices, but also the functionality, efficiency and cost-effectiveness needs as well.
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Person Centered Tech
Group Practice Tech Podcast
Radical Acceptance by Tara Brach
Burnout by Emily Nagoski, PhD
GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
We want you to feel 100% confident about your finances when opening your first private practice! Julie has curated her top financial building blocks for therapists and is sharing them in today's episode.
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GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
Episode 40: All About Quarterly Estimated Taxes
Episode 13: Profit First in Private Practice (with Mike Michalowicz)
Audits are COMPLICATED. There are a number of audits that can be performed at the local, state, and federal levels, and Julie is here to break them down. Today's episode gives you the 4-1-1 on different kinds of audits, steps to take when you're being audited, and some info on how to avoid a scam audit.
As always, we recommend consulting with a CPA, an EA, or a tax attorney for any legal advice.
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GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
Today, we're introducing a new series to the podcast - Client Coaching! Julie is chatting with Dr. David Goode-Cross about the challenges in his own business and how to tackle each problem including onboarding new clinicians, best practice when scaling his practice, and investing in real estate.
Dr. David Goode-Crosse is the owner and a psychotherapist at East Towson Psychological Services, located outside of Baltimore, Maryland. His practice specializes in working with the LGBTQ+ community, as well as people of color. David also enjoys mentoring new clinicians who are entering their professional fields from their educational programs, and offers them a vast amount of knowledge to help them excel their competence with working with BIPOC and LGBTQ+ clients.
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GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
East Towson Psychological Services
Adaptive Leadership by Ronald Heifetz
Federal Quarterly Estimated Taxes can be tricky. You may not be sure if you’re required to pay them, how much or when to pay, or even how to make the payments… but that’s what we’re here for! Today, Julie talks about all things E.T.P. (Estimated Tax Payments) and how to navigate them.
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GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
IRS Form 1040-ES for Estimated Tax Payments
TFYM Episode 13 - Profit First with Mike Michalowicz
We know how difficult it can be to place a dollar value on your private practice… you’ve built it from the ground up, and you want to make sure you’re getting a fair offer. Today, we’re chatting with Craig Goldslager of Utterly Financial, who has a passion for helping private practitioners prepare a strategy for retirement and exiting their business!
Craig Goldslager is a graduate of the University of Miami Herbert Business School and has received a Master of Business Administration from Nova Southeastern University. He is also the creator of Utterly Financial, a financial company that was founded on helping private practice owners plan for an exceptional retirement.
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GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
Utterly Financial - Craig Goldslager
SLP Money Podcast
Rocket Fuel by Gino Wickman
Summer is finally here! To kick off the holiday weekend, we wanted to give our listeners some of the BEST business books to add to your reading list. We know that business sometimes slows down in the summer, which makes this season the perfect time to brush up on some knowledge and maybe get some new ideas of systems, processes, and financial tricks you can incorporate into your business.
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Links & ResourcesGreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
The most important part of running your private practice is being compliant! There are a number of things, from intake forms to your legal entity, that you are responsible for maintaining legal compliance.
After working in the same Greater Baltimore community for some time, Dan Mayer, an attorney, and Melissa Wesner, a counselor, decided to join forces in order to offer mental health providers the information they need to protect their practices. Coming from two different backgrounds, Dan and Melissa, bring a wealth of knowledge for listeners who want to learn all about the legal and clinical aspects of running a practice. We can assure you that you definitely won’t be bored with these two high-energy guests!
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Melissa Wesner
Dan Mayer
The Counselor and the Law
The Happy Attorney
GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
There are countless ways to expand your therapy expertise into additional streams of income! If you're interested in starting an online coaching program, creating evergreen digital content, or building your online presence, then today's episode if just for you. We're going to break down the "what", "how", and "when" for expanding your income online!
Marissa Lawton is a licensed counselor who also happened to graduate from a top 20 business school - and she really loves integrating both her hard and soft skills. She is a corporate trained strategist, marketer, and offer-creation whisperer who lights up walking fellow clinicians through building aligned businesses beyond private practice. Marissa is the creator of Side Hustle Support Group, a 9-month mentorship that helps therapists repackage and repurpose their current clinical skills into an impactful online income stream. She also hosts a self-study program called Space Holder that captures therapists’ creative energy and teaches them to develop their fist lucrative container outside of the therapy room. When she’s not working, she’s playing with her two kids, planning cross-country moves, and dreaming about Mexican beaches.
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Links & ResourcesMarissa Lawton
The Empath Rising Podcast
Summer Slowdown Series
The Success Principles by Jack Canfield
GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
Being a therapists can be tough on it's own... then add on being a business owner, manager, and administrator... and you just might end up getting burned out! This can also take you away from other aspects of your life, such as your family, friends, and personal goals. In order to achieve more in your business in the long, take a listen to today's episode for some tools for dealing with financial burn out!
Maegan is a business coach, licensed therapist, group practice owner, and self-diagnosed business-building addict. She's on a mission to help overwhelmed service providers create unique, burnout-proof businesses that honor their needs and bankroll their lifestyle. As an ambitious introvert and highly sensitive person, Maegan is intimately familiar with the struggle that arises when your energetic limitations conflict with your desire to build the business you know you’re capable of creating. In addition to managing her own profitable businesses (+ taking lots of naps), you’ll find her neck deep in the Outlander universe (seriously, send help!), snuggling with her three furry Beagles, and consuming dangerous amounts of sea salt & vinegar Kettle chips.
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Links & Resources:Megginson Consulting
4 Business Building Mistakes Guide
Profit First by Mike Michalowicz
Clockwork by Mike Michalowicz
Rocket Fuel by Gino Wickman and Mark C. Winters
Burnout: The Secret to Unlocking the Stress Cycle by Amelia and Emily Nagoski
GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
Are you ready to begin your next chapter and step into retirement? You may not be sure how to start transitioning yourself into your retirement phase, but this episode will take away the fear of stepping away from your business and give you some great tips to get started!
Murs Tariq is a Certified Financial Planner and a partner at Peace of Mind Wealth Management. With over a decade of expertise in retirement planning, Murs is dedicated to helping clients pursue their ideal retirement. As an author and co-host of "Secure Your Retirement" show, Murs speaks on investing with risk management, income planning, and tax planning for and during retirement. As a first generation American, Murs was brought up with a different perspective on the value of the dollar and the importance of proper budgeting, saving, and overall financial planning. It is the upbringing that led him to his Finance Degree from North Carolina State University and eventually finding his passion in shaping the financial future of others.
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Peace of Mind Wealth Management
Secure Your Retirement - Podcast
Secure Your Retirement by Murs Tariq and Radon Stancil
Flash Boys: A Wall Street Revolt by Michael Lewis
GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money
Your relationship with money has a lot of similarities to your relationship with a partner! You have to set boundaries, focus on communication (with yourself), and be present in the moment when making big decisions. Just like you might need a couples counselor for relationship trouble, you might benefit from having a business coach for your money!
Jane Carter is a counselor and business coach who is committed to helping solopreneurs have more money, fun, and freedom in their businesses. She helps therapists and other service-based business owners feel inspired in their work, to use their creativity, and to successfully balance the roles of clinician & entrepreneur through a focus on both strategy and mindset. She lives in the mountains of Asheville, NC, where she's an outdoorswoman, food-and-wine lover, and coffee-shop connoisseur.
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This is Marketing by Seth Goden
The Soul Sourced Entrepreneur by Christine Kane
GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
Do you find yourself struggling with your relationship with money? This can lead to shame-spending and financial frustration! Just like you would set time aside for personal self care, you should also focus on your financial self-care. Setting a date with yourself to pour a glass of wine and figure out a sustainable budget can make the world of a difference.
Jo is all about connecting people to purpose through inspiration and innovation. Author of The Entrepreneurial Clinician and creator of The Book Of Evidence she is also the Founder and CEO of PurpleCo - a team of specialist allied health consultants dedicated to helping people who experience injury illness and trauma reclaim their lives through work. Jo graduated from the University of Sydney with a Bachelor of Health Science, Rehabilitation Counselling in 1994. Jo is passionate about the health benefits of work and truly believes that everyone has the right to meaningful and rewarding employment including health professionals who choose to work in private practice. She is a much sought after international coach, mentor, consultant and speaker on how private practice, when done effectively will be the change to health care that we are all seeking.
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· Evaluate your history and relationship with money
· How did your relationship with money growing up effect your current financial habits? Do you find yourself falling into the same habits as your family/peers?
· Financial self-care takes TIME
· Start by tracking the money coming into your bank account for 21 days - take a look at your paycheck, refunds, interest payments, etc.
· Calculate your budget based on your wants/needs - give yourself permission to spend on categories that you enjoy (examples: clothing, coffee, collectibles, etc.)
· Figure out how much you would need to charge per session each week in order to meet the needs of your budget - you may need to increase your rate, add on some additional clients, or take a look at your scheduling
· Find someone to do it with you - having someone by your side to help you along can take the fear out of doing it along
· Money is a TOOL
· Don't utilize it by paying for the most expensive and "name brand" items/services just for the flash - start with something simple and generic so you don't start out by breaking the bank
Links & Resources:Jo Muirhead
The Entrepreneurial Clinician by Jo Muirhead
The Richest Man in Babylon by George S. Clason
Essentialism: The Disciplined Pursuit of Less by Greg McKeown
GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
When you build a solid financial foundation into your private practice, you set yourself up for success in the future! There are a number of ways you can begin building your foundation, such as automating financial systems, providing yourself a consistent paycheck, and familiarizing yourself with key business financial terms and practices.
Linzy Bonham is a therapist in private practice, a consultant who helps therapists feel calm and in control of their finances, and the creator of the Money Skills for Therapists course. As the daughter of an accountant, Linzy inherited a good dose of bookkeeping brain. She's half therapist, half bookkeeper! So when she went into private practice, she dug right into all the ways to build a healthy business that pays for her life and always has extra money in the bank. Now Linzy helps therapists develop peace of mind about their money. Since so many therapists were never taught about money, she focuses on the 'how' of making the financial side of private practice doable, and even super satisfying!
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Links & Resources:Linzy Bonham
Money Nuts & Bolts
Profit First by Mike Michalowicz
GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
Are you looking for ways to level up your private practice? Well, look no further! We're sitting down with Kasey Compton to talk about her new book, Fix This Next for Healthcare Providers. She breaks down the hierarchy of needs for private practices and provides you with an awesome workbook of activities to help you apply the concepts in the book!
Kasey Compton is on a mission to help business owners find entrepreneurial confidence. She went from bankrupt to Boss Babe when she took her first company from zero to three million in less than three years without ditching her life to do it. She owns three other businesses that have accumulated assets of over three million and growing by the day. Her superpowers include cutting through the clutter to identify a strategic starting point, increasing efficiency through systems, and tapping into a person's highest potential. She helps others by designing maps for their entrepreneurial journeys, while she stands confidently as their guide.
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Links & Resources:Kasey Compton
Consulting with KC
Fix This Next for Healthcare Providers Book
Fix This Next for Healthcare Providers Workbook
GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money
Today, we're tackling a polarizing topic - Dave Ramsey's Baby Steps! We're looking at how each step can be applied to your personal life, as well as your business.
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Links & Resources:GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
Dave Ramsey's 7 Baby Steps
Tracking KPIs is VITAL to the health of your business! This week, we're here to breakdown some of the most common KPIs found in private practice, give you some examples of how the numbers work, and explain how to understand them.
If you're interested in learning more about what KPIs to track in your business, click HERE to check out our blog post all about KPIs!
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Links & ResourcesGreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
Private Practice Budgets (Solo & Group)
This week, we’re answering YOUR questions! We asked our listeners to submit questions and we are excited to sit down and work through them. Today, we will be covering topics from credit card processing and Profit First, to compensation and legal entities.
If you are interested in submitting a question for a future Q&A episode, make sure to click HERE!
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GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
Q&A Submission Form
As your group practice grows, you might assume that automatically increases your profits, but that isn’t always the case! Adding more clinicians to your team can increase your expenses in ways you might not have thought, which may eat away at the revenue you’re bringing in. This week, we’re chatting with John Clarke about how to build your group practice while being mindful maximizing your profitability.
John Clarke is a successful private practice owner and business coach! He offers coaching sessions and courses for group practice owners that are looking to become highly profitable. John is the host of the Private Practice Workshop Podcast, and has thousands of views on his Private Practice Workshop YouTube channel.
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Links & Resources:John Clarke
Private Practice Workshop
Private Practice Workshop Podcast
Private Practice Workshop YouTube
Total Money Makeover by Dave Ramsey
The Personal MBA by Josh Kaufman
Blue Ocean Strategy by W. Chan Kim
GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
Are you looking for a new way to market your private practice? We've got a great idea for you! Utilizing TV appearances, such as morning news shows or reality TV, can be a great benefit for your practice. There are a number of ways to get your foot in the door to get started in TV, and we're here to help!
This week, Julie sits down with Esther Boykin to discuss TV appearances and how it's helped her grow her private practice! Esther Boykin is a psychotherapist who wants to live in a world where everyone believes that Therapy Is Not A Dirty Word. As the CEO of Group Therapy Associates, a private practice in the DC metro area, she works every day to make mental health accessible, innovative, and culturally relevant for all people. In 2017, Esther launched Therapy Is Not A Dirty Word, a brand new division of GTA designed to bring mental health conversation outside the traditional office setting and into the community through media, webinars, social events, and retreats. In addition to her role as a licensed marriage & family therapist and CEO, Esther is also an adjunct professor at Virginia Tech teaching the business of therapy, author of The Date Deck, and a sought-after relationship and mental health expert. She was recently named a top 21 relationship expert to follow by Cosmopolitan magazine and has appeared on Bravo's Real Housewives of Potomac, HuffPost, Good Morning Washington, the Wall Street Journal, Refinery 29, and a myriad of other media outlets.
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Links & Resources:Esther Boykin
Group Therapy Associates
Therapy Is Not A Dirty Word
The Business of Therapy
The Date Deck by Esther Boykin
The E-Myth by Michael E. Gerber
Help A Reporter Out (HARO)
GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
When it comes to growing your private practice, there may be a lot of obstacles you'll face! Making decisions when it comes to finances isn't always easy, so we break down some of the hurdles you might have to leap over when it's time to expand.
Kelly is apart of the accounting team at GreenOak Accounting. She is a team leader and strives to provide the best service to all of our clients. Kelly specializes in Profit First implementation and ongoing support, and enjoys teaching our team members her methods so they can also assist their clients with implementing Profit First!
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Links & Resources:GreenOak Accounting
GreenOak Accounting Consultations
Profit First by Mike Michalowicz
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
Adding a Personal Financial Planner to your business team can help you better manage your business by guiding you in clearly defining your goals. They can also help you tie your business goals into your personal life by explaining how much profit you should be making at each stage of your business and how to use that money to live comfortably.
On this week's episode, Julie is joined by Ariel Ward! Ariel Ward, CFP® is a financial advisor at Abacus Wealth Partners. She has over a decade of experience in the field of personal financial services and in helping clients develop financial clarity. She is passionate about helping business owners grow their net worth and make better decisions with their money. Ariel helps her clients define their goals, stay focused on what's important and work toward building a more abundant financial future. She believes having a clearly defined financial plan gives her clients the ability to be more present with their families and friends and gives them the freedom to enjoy their life.
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Links & Resources:Ariel Ward - Abacus Wealth Partners
The E-Myth Revisited
GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
While insurance companies take care of the majority of client referrals for insurance-based practices, marketing a cash-pay only private practice is a different ball game! Generating your own leads can be a challenge, and we want to give you the basics to get started.
Today, Julie is joined by Whitney Owens, a Licensed Professional Counselor and Private Practice Consultant in Savannah, Georgia. In addition to running her practice, she offers individual and group consulting through Practice of the Practice. Whitney places a special emphasis on helping clinicians start and grow faith-based practices. She hosts a podcast to help faith-based practice owners called the Faith in Practice Podcast!
Episode Highlights:
Links & Resources:
Water's Edge Counseling
Practice Of The Practice - Whitney Owens
Practice Of The Practice - Group Practice Boss
Faith In Practice Podcast
Clockwork by Mike Michalowicz
GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
2021 started off with an administration change, which (potentially) means new tax policies! While there haven't been any policies put into effect as of yet, we wanted to make sure our listeners are prepared for changes that may come. From estate tax, income tax, and more, we've got everything you need to know in this episode.
(As of recording & uploading in February 2021, none of these changes are official. These are changes we are anticipating based on the Biden administration's tax proposals. Some of these changes may be retroactive, and could be applied beginning in January 2021.)
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Links & Resources:
GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
There are a number of financial hurdles you could face when transitioning from a solo to a group practice, and we're here to break them down for you! On this episode, we are joined by Alison Pidgeon to discuss the ins and outs of growing your team, handling compensation, and how to troubleshoot some problems before you even face them.
Alison Pidgeon is a licensed professional counselor and the owner of Move Forward Counseling. She is also a business consultant for Practice of the Practice, a community that helps therapists start, scale, and succeed in starting their own private practice. Alison finds passion in empowering private practice owners to achieve their dreams of being their own boss!
Episode Highlights:
Links & ResourcesAlison Pidgeon
Move Forward Virtual Assistants
Practice of the Practice
Group Practice Boss
Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki
GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
Financial planning and life planning go hand in hand, which is why we wanted to break down the basics of life planning with our guest, David Frank! Lining up your life values with a financial plan can set you up for a successful future and give you peace of mind.
Today, we are joined by financial life planner David Frank! David is the owner of Turning Point Financial Life Planning located in California and works specifically with therapists in private practice. He strives to bring therapists and private practice owners a plan of action to meet their goals and help them lead more authentic lives.
Episode Highlights:
Links & Resources:Turning Point Financial Life Planning
Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert
The Tim Ferriss Show - Episode #430
GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
Adding groups into your private practice may seem intimidating or impossible, but in this week's episode, we make it easy! Julie sits down with Carrie Haynes, the genius behind The Art of Groups, and talks all about when it's a good time to implement groups into your practice, how to manage compensation of clinicians while adding groups, and some tips & tricks she's learned along the way!
Carrie Haynes is a Licensed Professional Counselor who has been practicing for over 10 years. She is a specialist in group therapy, and has led numerous therapy groups, workshops, and retreats. She is also a faculty member at Colorado State University and teaches courses in group therapy!
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Links & Resources:Carrie Haynes
The Art Of Groups - Website
The Art of Groups - Podcast
The Life Coach School Podcast
GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
If you are wondering if it's time to shift your private practice to a non-profit, or if you're interested in adding a non-profit arm to your business, check out today's episode featuring Tosha Anderson! She and Julie chat all about non-profits in private practice from compliance to compensation. Tosha also mentions some great resources for when you are looking to get started!
Tosha Anderson is the founder of The Charity CFO, an accounting firm that specializing in working with non-profits across the United States. She has years of experience as an auditor, non-profit board member, and a consultant. Tosha enjoys sharing her knowledge and experience with non-profits of all sizes to help them better understand their finances and set them up for success!
Episode Highlights:
Links & Resources:Tosha Anderson - The Charity CFO
The Charity CFO Facebook
Passion to Execution by Lyn Scott
The EMyth by Michael E. Gerber
Atomic Habits by James Clear
GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
Are you looking for some ideas of ways you can grow your private practice outside of regular clinical work? You're in luck! This week, Julie sits down with Katie Vernoy of Therapy Reimagined to talk about alternate revenues streams for you to incorporate into your own business!
Katie Vernoy is a therapist, coach, consultant, and co-founder of Therapy Reimagined! She is also the co-host of The Modern Therapist Survival Guide Podcast, a podcast created to teach therapists how to approach their roles in a modern age. She believes in empowering private practice owners to create businesses that they can healthily sustain and happily enjoy.
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Links & Resources:Katie Vernoy
The Modern Therapist Survival Guide
Therapy Reimagined
When: The Scientific Secrets of Perfect Timing by Daniel H. Pink
GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
Register for our FREE Live Profit First Webinar on Dec. 18th, at 1 PM EST - CLICK HERE!
Growing from a solo practice to a group practice doesn't have to be a challenge! This week, Julie breaks down common financial hurdles that most therapists encounter when growing their private practice, and different ways you can avoid them to make your transition easy.
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Links & Resources:Gusto
GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
"The goal of your business is always profitability, but the purpose of your business is to help people and impact the community." -Kasey Compton
Register for our FREE Live Profit First Webinar on Dec. 18th, at 1 PM EST - CLICK HERE!
Automating financial systems in your business is necessary in order to thrive! This week, we chat with Kasey Compton of Consult with Kasey and talk all things automation and systems. We cover systems to make your billing, payroll, accounting, and so much more a breeze.
(HINT: Make sure to listen to the full episode for the secret code to access Kasey's mentorship program!)
Episode Highlights:
Links & Resources:Kasey Compton
Consult with Kasey
Mindsight Partners
Zapier
Profit First
Fix This Next
The Goal by Eliyahu Goldratt
GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
"Every time revenue comes into your practice, you subtract a predetermined amount as profit, and you run your business on the remainder" - Mike Michalowicz
The Profit First methodology has transformed thousands of struggling businesses into money making machines! If you're interested in implementing Profit First into your private practice, today's episode is made for you.
Register for our FREE Live Profit First Webinar on Dec. 18th, at 1 PM EST - CLICK HERE!
This week, Julie sits down with the genius behind Profit First, Mike Michalowicz. Mike is a successful business owner, author, and keynote speaker. He has founded two multi-million dollar businesses where he researches and develops his methods for increasing profitability, automating systems, and prioritizing problems.
Episode Highlights:
Links and Resources:Mike Michalowicz
Profit First - Website
Profit First - Book
Clockwork
The Pumpkin Plan
Fix This Next
Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion
10-10-10: A Transforming Idea
Rejection Proof
GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
Taxes can be a huge surprise if you haven’t planned how to pay for them. There’s no time like the present to start saving for taxes. You have until April 15 to come up with enough cash.
Today, Julie Herres of Greenoak Accounting shares year-end tax saving tips. Frequently, she is asked about what can be done to save on taxes. For private practice business owners—whether you are a sole proprietor or have a corporation, LLC, or partnership—it’s likely that a portion of your take-home income is not taxed.
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Links and Resources:
Tax Information for Retirement Plans
Tax Information for Business Types
Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA)
Augusta Loophole
QuickBooks
TurboTax
GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
Most people experience financial anxiety, including private practice therapists. Why? Money is highly emotional and psychological. Learn how to manage and overcome financial blocks in today's episode.
Today’s guest is Lindsay Bryan-Podvin, a clinical social worker, financial therapist, and private practice owner. The clinical side of her business helps couples cultivate a happy and healthy relationship with money. Also, Lindsay’s coaching and consulting side helps private practice providers build a profitable and sustainable business.
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Links and Resources:
Mind Money Balance
Mind Money Balance on Instagram
The Financial Anxiety Solution by Lindsay Bryan-Podvin
Therapy Reimagined Conference
Brad Klontz - Your Mental Wealth
Chiron - The Wounded Healer
The Millionaire Next Door by Thomas J. Stanley and William D. Danko
GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
Do you dream about growing and scaling your group practice from six to seven figures? It takes practice, partnerships, and profit. It’s a numbers game to add space and staff.
Today’s guest is Maureen Werrbach from The Group Practice Exchange. Maureen owns a group practice in three locations and started The Group Practice Exchange. Also, she partners with Mike Blumberg to present Group Practice Builders, an annual conference for group practice owners.
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Links and Resources:
The Group Practice Exchange
Group Practice Builders
Mike Blumberg
Profit First by Mike Michalowicz
GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
Billing is the most important financial function in a practice. If there’s no money coming in, then you really don’t have a business.
Today’s guest is Jeremy Zug, owner of Practice Solutions, LLC, a billing and credentialing firm for mental health private practices. He talks about when it is a good time to DIY, outsource, or bring in-house billing and credentialing.
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Links and Resources:
Practice Solutions, LLC
Practice Solutions Blog: Your Private Practice Credentialing Process
TherapyNotes
Good to Great by Jim Collins
Chris Hogan
Affordable Care Act (ACA)
Employer Identification Number (EIN)
National Provider Identifier (NPI)
Alternate Identification Number (AIN)
QuickBooks
HIPAA Privacy
Grit by Angela Duckworth
GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
“I didn’t want to be chasing my money.” - Katie Lemieux
Are you struggling to build a six-figure private practice? Build your brand and grow your dream private practice by having a money mindset focused on business marketing and finances.
Today’s guest is Katie Lemieux, a licensed marriage and family therapist (LMFT) and co-owner of the Private Practice Startup that features podcasts, paperwork, E-courses, and coaching.
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Links and Resources:
Private Practice Startup
Private Practice Startup Podcasts
Private Practice Startup on Facebook
Profit First by Mike Michalowicz
Fix This Next by Mike Michalowicz
JARS System of Money Management
Dave Ramsey’s Envelope System
Google Ads
The Energy of Money by Maria Nemeth
Never Split the Difference by Chris Voss
Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki
Greenoak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
"Not all policies are created equal" - Jake Mellor
What are the different kinds of insurance you might need for your business? You want to make sure you and your business are protected.
Today’s guest is Jake Mellor, owner of Mellor Financial Services, which specializes in insurance, wealth management, tax preparation, and tax planning. He describes insurance options at every stage of your business. Jake is not with State Farm, although he sometimes wears khakis. As an independent insurance agent, he represents the client, not the company.
Check out our handout for this episode by clicking here!
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Links and Resources:
Strategic Insurance Agency
Strategic Insurance Agency: 1-800-773-1848
Mellor Financial
Health Information Privacy (HIPAA)
U.S. Department of Labor
GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
Payroll is typically your biggest expense in a group practice. Think about your future before making decisions that have a long term impact.
Today's episode focuses on compensation models for group practices. How much is required to hire and retain employees? Every practice should be profitable.
Click here to download our handout for this episode!
Episode Highlights
Links and Resources:
GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
Therapists tend to be great with emotions, but are sometimes scared of money. Believe in your self-worth by not feeling guilty, but good when making money in private practice. It’s just as easy to have a profitable practice, as a not-profitable practice.
Today’s guest is Tiffany McLain, who is a creator, founder, and teacher at the Lean In MAKE BANK Academy. Tiffany talks about how private practice therapists can build both emotional and financial wealth.
Episode Highlights:
● Conversations and Conflict: Get comfortable or be uncomfortable talking about money
● Clarity/Desire: Know what’s needed to work less, make more; not work more, make less
● Big Picture Plan: Anticipate anxiety to dream big or settle for big disappointment
● Sliding Fee Scale: State your fee and then shut your mouth, don’t make excuses
● Therapists: Who feels guilty? Women, those of color and from blue-collar backgrounds
● Social, Political, and Family of Origin: Is permission necessary to charge confidently?
● Insurance Reimbursement Rates: Run practice and still have life of freedom, flexibility
● Foundational Aspects: Surround yourself with supportive people and invest for success
● Area of Genius: Learn from others before you and spend money to make money
Links and Resources:
Fun with Fee Calculator
Tiffany McLain
Lean In MAKE BANK Academy
Psychology Today
We Should All Be Millionaires by Rachel Rodgers
Uriah Guilford
GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
How can being intentional about productivity and outsourcing lead to increased profits of your private practice? Simply follow three keys to productivity as your business grows because successful therapists flirt with burnout.
Today's guest is Uriah Guilford, a licensed Marriage & Family Therapist (MFT) with Guilford Family Counseling in Northern California. Uriah is the founder of Productive Therapist, which provides virtual assistants (VAs) & support with delegating outsourcing to therapists. He also hosts the Productive Therapist Podcast to offer bite sized pieces of advice for therapists.
Click here to download our handout for this episode!
Episode Highlights
Links and Resources:
Guilford Family Counseling
Productive Therapist
Productive Therapist’s Podcast
Productive Therapist’s Free Resources
The Master List
Basecamp
ClickUp
Asana
Belay Solutions
Michael Hyatt
Group Practice Owners Summit
Clockwork by Mike Michalowicz
GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
What’s the bottleneck in your business? It’s time to work less and make more by designing your business to Run Like Clockwork.
Today’s guest is Adrienne Dorison, co-founder of Run Like Clockwork. Mike Michalowicz wrote the book, Clockwork, and Adrienne runs the company.
Click here to download our handout for this episode!
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Links and Resources:
Run Like Clockwork
Clockwork: Design Your Business to Run Itself by Mike Michalowicz
Run Like Clockwork Accelerator
Run Like Clockwork Podcast
Profit First by Mike Michalowicz
Essentialism: The Disciplined Pursuit of Less by Greg McKeown
GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
It’s time to break bad, repeatable habits. Replace them with financial habits that prove profitable for practice owners. It’s expensive to fix a mistake rather than to do it right in the first place.
Julie Herres, owner of Greenoak Accounting and host of the Therapy For Your Money Podcast, shares insider information about best practices that make profitable practice owners.
Click here to download our handout for this episode!Episode Highlights:
Links and Resources:
QuickBooks
TurboTax
H&R Block
Profit First
Federal Insurance Contributions Act (FICA)
Schedule K-1
GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
Why and how do clinicians start and sustain a private practice, when so many others fail at it? Too few resources and opportunities to financially succeed and stay in business. Private practice is not for everyone.
Today’s guest is Gordon Brewer, a licensed marriage and family therapist. He started a part-time private practice in 2005 that has grown into a group practice named Kingsport Counseling Associates in northeast Tennessee.
Click here to download our handout for this episode!
Episode Highlights:
Links and Resources:
Money Matters in Private Practice Course
(Coupon Code: Julie2020 for 20% off)
Practice of Therapy Blog
Practice of Therapy Podcast
Free Private Practice Start-up Guide from Gordon Brewer
Kingsport Counseling Associates
QuickBooks
Schedule K-1 Form 1065
Schedule C
Affordable Care Act (ACA) Insurance
Free to Focus from Michael Hyatt
Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA)
Profit First by Mike Michalowicz
Company of One by Paul Jarvis
Google G Suite
GreenOak Accounting
Therapy For Your Money Podcast
Welcome to Therapy for Your Money! We are here to talk about all things money and finances in private practice. Our host, Julie Herres, has perfected the craft of financial management and profitability through her successful years as the Senior Accountant and CEO of her own firm, GreenOak Accounting. She is on a mission to share her best financial practices and make YOUR financial anxiety a thing of the past!
Therapy for Your Money will focus on an endless number of financial topics including budgeting, profitability, taxes, financial management. We are going to be sitting down with industry leaders in credentialing, efficiency, outsourcing, and much more!
Make sure you subscribe to Therapy for Your Money to get updates on when we put out new episodes, and check us out on the web at www.therapyforyourmoney.com. You can also find us on Instagram and Facebook at @therapyforyourmoney or use the hashtag #therapyforyourmoney to shout us out on social media.