Brandon Kindred's dad redirected his excess energy and curiosity to learning programming with a teach yourself in 24 hours book. The same thing happened in school, where a chance encounter (getting caught programming) led to a spot on the robotics team. We talk about lessons learned from robotics competitions, using AI and ML to improve software testing, and where the soft powder is in Colorado. * The FIRST robotics organization https://www.firstinspires.org/robotics/frc * Brandon's company https://www.look-see.com/ * Autodesk's 3DS Max - https://www.autodesk.com/products/3ds-max/overview?support=ADVANCED&plc=3DSMAX&term=1-YEAR&quantity=1 * The conference that recognized Qanairy for Best in class for Transfer learning - https://aidevworld.com/ * The company where Brandon's Dad is CTO - https://sqad.com/ * The insurance group run by Brandon's old sales mentor Adam Schwartz - http://afoxassoc.com/our-family/