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Did science fiction predict AirPods? Neuralink? The death of God?

For this final episode of Season One, John Helmer and Ezri Carlebach give you what hacks call a listicle: three transcendently significant things prefigured in science fiction that definitely came true — and three that didn't. Or haven't yet. Prediction, as Niels Bohr said, is very hard.

Along the way:

Thirteenth-century flying machines
Victorians watching live war coverage on flat-screen TV
elearning before there was elearning
Verne, Wells, jetpacks, flying cars, prediction markets, transporter beams, universal nudism and Octavia Butler's uncannily detailed vision of the Age of Trump.

That's a wrap on season one. Let us know what you've enjoyed — and what you'd like to hear in future episodes. All suggestions considered.

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Music by Nick Dwyer recording as Flintet. The Tech Imaginarium is a Learning Hack podcast, produced and hosted by John Helmer and written by John Helmer and Ezri Carlebach.

Did science fiction predict AirPods? Neuralink? The death of God?

For this final episode of Season One, John Helmer and Ezri Carlebach give you what hacks call a listicle: three transcendently significant things prefigured in science fiction that definitely came true — and three that didn't. Or haven't yet. Prediction, as Niels Bohr said, is very hard.

Along the way:

Thirteenth-century flying machines
Victorians watching live war coverage on flat-screen TV
elearning before there was elearning
Verne, Wells, jetpacks, flying cars, prediction markets, transporter beams, universal nudism and Octavia Butler's uncannily detailed vision of the Age of Trump.

That's a wrap on season one. Let us know what you've enjoyed — and what you'd like to hear in future episodes. All suggestions considered.

Connect with The Learning Hack:

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer X: @johnhelmer Threads: @jphelmer Substack: @learninghack Instagram: @tech.imaginarium Website: learninghackpodcast.com

Listen and watch: https://linktr.ee/learninghack

Music by Nick Dwyer recording as Flintet. The Tech Imaginarium is a Learning Hack podcast, produced and hosted by John Helmer and written by John Helmer and Ezri Carlebach.

How a teenage girl's waking dream birthed what is (probably) the first science fiction novel – and in the process gave the world its most enduring image of technology gone wrong. This time we're coming for the myth, the curse, the cliche that is Frankenstein. John Helmer and Ezri Carlebach climb up the tower, point the lightning conductor to the heart of the storm, and attach electrical cables to the neck-bolts of that fearful thing on the slab. Yes, it may be 200-years old but ... it's alive! They walk through the original 1818 plot — stranger and bleaker than the films — weigh the long-running argument over whether it really counts as science fiction, and trace the monster's afterlife from the 1910 Edison short and James Whale's 1931 classic to Boris Karloff, Mel Brooks, Eddie Van Halen's "Frankenstrat", Guillermo del Toro ... and beyond. In this episode: * What really happened at the Villa Diodati in 1816? * The radical parents and a childhood shadowed by death that made Mary Shelley * Born in the age of revolutions: Enlightenment values battles alchemy and the occult * How two Brits, James Whale and Boris Karloff, created a look for the creature in their famous 1931 film that resonated through a thousand sequels, rip-offs and pisstakes * Did Mary Shelley predict the death of God?

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Can the future of an entire civilisation be calculated like the behaviour of gas molecules? In the second of two episodes on Isaac Asimov, John Helmer and Ezri Carlebach turn from his robots to his other great franchise — the Foundation saga — and the seductive idea at its heart: psychohistory, a fictional science that claims to predict the fate of galactic empires. From a Gilbert and Sullivan libretto opened at random to Apple TV's billion-dollar adaptation, this is a conversation about how one pulp idea grew into a cornerstone of science fiction and why its questions about prediction, determinism and power feel uncomfortably current.

In this episode:

The origins of Foundation — Asimov, his editor John W. Campbell, and the Gilbert and Sullivan operetta that inspired a galactic empire
The original trilogy (Foundation, Foundation and Empire, Second Foundation), Hari Seldon, psychohistory and the Mule
How Asimov was pushed by Doubleday into the prequels and sequels — and how he retrofitted Foundation into his robot universe
Two adaptations compared: the 1973 BBC Radio dramatization and Apple TV's contemporary series
The ideas behind the saga — Gibbon, Spengler, Toynbee, and the long-running argument over Marx and Hegel
Prediction as power — from Carissa Véliz's work to prediction markets and accelerationism
Asimov the man: his later fame, his legacy, and his failings

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Next time: Frankenstein — Mary Shelley's fever dream and the most enduring image in tech

In 1942, a 22-year-old chemistry student and part-time writer set down three short rules for how a fictional robot ought to behave. His aim was to kill off the lazy "robot-as-Frankenstein-monster" cliché. More than eighty years later, real engineers, real ethicists and real lawmakers are still arguing about them.

This is the first of two episodes on Isaac Asimov — one of the "big dogs" of science fiction whose output ran to some five hundred books. John Helmer and Ezri Carlebach take on the most enduring part of that legacy: the Three Laws of Robotics. The Laws went on to power nine linked short stories in I, Robot, several films, hundreds of academic papers, and an argument about AI safety that shows no sign of ending any time soon.

In this episode:

The man and the output
Robots before Asimov
I, Robot as nine thought experiments
Susan Calvin — one of SF's first great female scientists
The Three Laws and the trolley problem
Coming next: Foundation

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Every genre has a shadow canon — the writers who don't make the syllabus, don't sell out on Amazon, and rarely get the Netflix series. In science fiction, that shadow canon is where some of the most intellectually adventurous, politically serious and formally daring work of the twentieth century was done.

Having opened the series with the big names — Wells, Verne, Poe, the Mount Rushmore of the genre — John and Ezri jump forward to the late 1960s and 1970s and turn to five authors most listeners won't know: Kate Wilhelm, Joanna Russ, John Sladek, John Brunner and Christopher Priest. Feminist SF, satirical SF, dystopian SF set in a Britain going to the dogs. The thread that connects them is "prescience", a word that keeps coming up. Were these writers really predicting the future – or just paying close enough attention to the present?

In this episode:

Why 1969 makes such a strange hinge point — Apollo 11 and the realisation of Goddard's cherry-tree dream, set against the assassinations of 1968, Vietnam, Prague, Altamont, and the first wave of environmental science
Kingsley Amis, New Maps of Hell, and the New Wave: Moorcock's New Worlds, Ballard's "inner space", and SF's discovery that it could not avoid politics
Kate Wilhelm — Hugo, Nebula and Locus winner for Where Late the Sweet Birds Sang, a co-founder of the Clarion Writers' Workshop who is now better known as a mystery writer
Joanna Russ — The Female Man, written in 1970 but unpublished until 1975, and How to Suppress Women's Writing; a Westinghouse Science Talent Search finalist who chose literature as her weapon
John Sladek — the satirist whose robot in Tik-Tok has had its "asimov circuits" go on the blink, and whose hoax book on a thirteenth sign of the zodiac proved people will believe anything stated with enough confidence
John Brunner — the "Club of Rome Quartet", the novel that coined "worm" for self-replicating code, and Stand on Zanzibar, set in 2010 and unsettlingly familiar by the time we got there
Christopher Priest — Fugue for a Darkening Island and A Dream of Wessex, the racial framing Priest himself later grappled with, and The Prestige (with David Bowie as Tesla)
The big question under all of it: what is the difference between prescience and prediction — and is it significant that "prescience" contains the word "science"?

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A hundred years ago this spring, a magazine called Amazing Stories hit the newsstands and — almost by accident — gave a name and a shape to the genre we now call science fiction. Its publisher, Hugo Gernsback, was an immigrant electrical engineer, visionary and relentless self-promoter. He wanted his magazine to delight and enthrall – but also to educate.

In this opening episode of The Tech Imaginarium, John and Ezri go back to 1926 to ask why this peculiar pulp magazine matters — and why its mix of techno-optimism, prophetic vision and dystopic warnings still echoes through the way we talk about technology today.

In this episode:

Hugo Gernsback: Luxembourg-born inventor, publisher of Amazing Stories, and author of stories under at least seven anagrams of his own name
The strange scientific weather of 1926 — electrification, mustard gas, Einstein, Schrödinger and Hubble — and why it primed the public for "scientifiction"
The first issue's contributors: Wells, Verne and Poe in one corner; George Allan England, G. Peyton Wertenbaker and Austin Hall in the other
Robert Goddard, H.G. Wells and the through-line from pulp magazines to the Apollo Moon launches
Why Gernsback's reputation was contraversial — paying writers poorly, exaggerating circulation, etc.
The tropes Amazing Stories planted that we're still living with

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In 1983, Isaac Asimov predicted that computers would let every person learn what they wanted, in their own time, at their own speed. Forty years on, that vision is more or less the world we live in. So what else might science fiction have to tell us about the future we're already inside?

Welcome to The Tech Imaginarium — a new six-part series exploring how science fiction made the modern world. Co-hosts John Helmer and Ezri Carlebach introduce the season ahead, the texts and authors they'll be reading as "skewed mirrors" of our technological present, and why now is exactly the right moment to be paying attention to SF.

In this episode:

Asimov's startlingly accurate 1983 prediction about computer-aided learning
Why science fiction is a form of learning, not just entertainment — Stephen Baxter's "skewed mirror"
A first look at the six-episode season: Amazing Stories at 100, five foundational SF authors, two episodes on Asimov, Mary Shelley's Frankenstein, and the awkward question of whether SF predicts the future

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Augmented Workforce, Learning at the Frontline and the Destiny of L&D.

For a long stretch, you could skip Learning Technologies for a year and miss almost nothing. Not this year. AI has stopped being something L&D is piloting and started being something the field is rebuilding around — and the conversation at LT26 had a sharper edge for it. In this season finale, John brings back five voices from the show floor and the studio to map what's actually changing: the augmented workforce, the 80% of workers L&D has long ignored, the readiness question nobody wants a straight answer to, the maturing of content into context, and the generational lens of a 30 Under 30. The destiny of L&D, in other words — sketched from five different angles, while the ground is still moving.

Guests, in running order * Giovanni Giamminola — AI advisor and author of The Augmented Manager; opening keynote speaker at LT26. The augmented workforce thesis: humans plus AI plus AI agents, and the cognitive shift that demands of management. * JD Dillon — Founder of LearnGeek; former CLO at Axonify; author of The Frontline Enablement Playbook (out the week the episode airs). On the 80% of the workforce L&D conferences forget about. * Alicia Sanchez — Chief AI Officer at MPF Federal LLC; LT26 panellist on future-proofing L&D. On AI readiness — organisational and workforce — and the failure modes at both extremes. * Cheryl Clemons — CEO and co-founder of StoryTagger. On the show's themes from a vendor's chair: content to context, evidencing impact, and whether storytelling has had its day as a learning modality. * Matt Caldwell — People Experience and DEI at Axon; LT26 30 Under 30 cohort. The generational lens: privacy, data, bias, and what younger workers actually feel about giving themselves to AI tools.

In this episode * The augmented workforce — humans, AI, and AI agents working together, and what that means for management itself * Why 80% of the global workforce is frontline or deskless, and almost no L&D budget reflects it * The two-track AI readiness question — organisational and workforce — and the trap of "we're getting ready" as a permanent excuse * Content to context: AI maturing the L&D conversation at both ends of the learning programme * A generational read on AI, privacy and bias from inside the workforce that grew up with the technology * The destiny of L&D, sketched from five angles while the ground is still moving

Links and resources * Giovanni Giamminola — The Augmented Manager: How AI Makes Management More Effective, Creative and Strategic (2025) * JD Dillon — The Frontline Enablement Playbook (2026); LearnGeek; the enabled newsletter * Alicia Sanchez — Why Readiness Is Shaping the Future of Work (Learning Guild) * Cheryl Clemons — StoryTagger * Matt Caldwell — Axon; LT26 30 Under 30 cohort (Nigel Paine)

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Coming next on this feed The Learning Hack returns for a new season in September. But the feed isn't going quiet over the summer — John launches a brand-new podcast on Tuesday 26 May 2026: The Tech Imaginarium — How Science Fiction Made the Modern World, co-hosted with writer and consultant Ezri Carlebach. Six episodes, weekly, into this same feed. More at learninghackpodcast.com/tech-imaginarium.

Your organisation has probably spent years building a learning library. Courses, videos, SCORM files, PDFs — hundreds of them, living in the LMS or scattered across SharePoint. You can enrol in them. You can sit through them. What you can't do is ask them a question and get an answer in seconds, at the moment you actually need one. The knowledge is there. It just isn't retrievable. That's the problem Mike Alcock, founder of Talvi, has set out to solve.

In this episode, Mike takes John through how Talvi works. They also cover Mike's own unlikely route into learntech: a Civil Engineering degree at Sheffield, a detour through an insulation factory in Newcastle, and three successive software businesses each arriving ahead of the market. And they have a searching conversation about what tools like Talvi mean for the LMS and for the instructional designer — neither of whom emerges entirely unscathed.

Is the technology now genuinely good enough to make learning in the flow of work a practical reality, rather than a conference agenda perennial?.

TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - Start

02:14 - Intro

04:15 - What is Talvi for?

16:20 - What's the journey for a learning leader adopting Talvi?

20:47 - Mike's story: from civil engineering to learntech

30:19 - What will tools like Talvi do to the LMS?

39:50 - Explanation of terms: RAG, vector databases…

49:01 - End

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What does it take to change how an industry works — and what happens when it doesn't change fast enough? Lars Hyland has been asking that question for thirty years, from the early days of interactive multimedia through nearly a decade leading EMEA for Totara Learning, and now at Enlytning, an AI-powered platform helping small businesses close the gap between policy and practice. In this conversation, John and Lars go back to the beginning — to the Epic days, when the e-learning model that now dominates the industry was taking shape around them — and trace a career-long argument about the one thing L&D keeps getting wrong.

They cover the founding of Retenda in 2010 — a learning reinforcement platform built on spaced repetition, a decade before the category existed — and why good timing isn't enough if the market isn't ready. They get into the Totara years, open source as a power relationship, and the honest tension in spending nearly a decade championing infrastructure you know is being misused. And they dig into AI: not the conference version, but the harder question of whether the industry is using it to fix a broken model or just to run the broken model faster. Lars's phrase for the latter — faster garbage in, garbage out — is both a provocation and a diagnosis.

Lars has a view on what he thinks good actually looks like. The question is whether the industry is willing to build it.

TIMESTAMPS

02:12 - Intro

05:05 - The formative years of elearning

17:59 - Why did he found Retenda?

21:35 - The Totara years

25:53 - What happens to open source tech when it goes commercial?

30:21 - Enlytning

40:26 - Compliance & HR

52:17 - Does the SaaS model still have a future?

57:51 - A way to cut down duplication in course catalogues?

01:08:51 - End

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What if the ideas that L&D has been nodding at for thirty years are finally about to become unavoidable? Bob Mosher has spent his career arguing that training and performance are not the same thing — and that building courses, however well-designed, only meets two of the five moments when people actually need to learn. The other three happen in the workflow, at the point of need. Most of the profession has agreed with him in theory. Rather fewer have changed what they do.

In this conversation, John and Bob catch up on how generative AI is changing that picture. Bob describes what AI is actually doing inside live workflow learning projects right now — including a headline figure on development time that stopped John in his tracks — and explains why the digital coach, not the course, is becoming the central deliverable. They also dig into the risks: what happens when AI accelerates the wrong thing, why L&D needs a seat at the IT table before it's too late, and what it means to be a performance architect rather than a training order-taker in an AI-assisted world.

The boulder, Bob says, has been going uphill for a long time. He thinks it's about to roll back. This episode is about what happens when it does.

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - Start

01:55 - Intro

04:27 - The five moments of need

08:14 - How has AI changed the conversation about workflow learning?

10:44 - How does AI save time?

24:07 - Risks to workflow learning from AI

31:42 - Has AI caused a rethink in practice?

40:19 - Workflow learning impact

53:38 - End

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Does L&D know where it's going?

What separates the L&D functions that genuinely move organisations forward from those that stay busy but never quite shift the dial? That question has driven Laura Overton's research for over two decades — and it sits at the heart of The L&D Leader, the new book she co-authored with Michelle Ockers. Their answer, drawn from more than ten thousand L&D professionals and two hundred learning leaders, points not to new tools or models, but to something older and harder to teach: the ability to read the organisation, sense its currents, and navigate your own way to somewhere that matters.

In this episode John talks with Laura and Michelle about the ideas behind the book, which opens with the extraordinary story of the ancient Polynesian navigators — people who crossed 2,500 miles of open ocean without a compass or a clock. They discuss the lasting legacy of the pandemic for L&D, why two decades of research on workplace learning strategy show surprisingly little change in how most functions operate, and the risk that chasing the latest tool or model is actually damaging L&D's ability to drive real value.

And then there's the question that sits underneath all the talk of L&D maturity and business alignment: when we talk about driving value through learning, who exactly is that value for?

TIMESTAMPS

00:02:44 - Intro

00:05:55 - What was the genesis of the book?

00:10:04 - The collaboration — how Laura and Michelle came to write together

00:13:29 - Legacy of the pandemic for L&D

00:16:10 - Was the pandemic a 'golden period' for L&D?

00:19:42 - What are they telling people in The L&D Leader?

00:30:00 - The Polynesian navigators — and what they mean for L&D leadership

00:39:09 - Is technology causing 'skill fade' in L&D?

00:41:42 - How has the L&D community changed over two decades?

00:50:55 - Who gets the value from workplace learning — the learner or the stakeholder?

01:02:58 - End

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The results of the 2026 Global Sentiment Survey are out — and the mood in workplace learning is uneasy. In this episode, John speaks with Donald H. Taylor about AI's "hangover moment," rising pressure on L&D teams, diverging regional trends, vendor anxiety, and what showing value really signals this year. Is this a temporary wobble — or a structural shift in what L&D is for?

Timestamps 00:00 - Start 02:21 - Intro 04:14 - Overview of this year's GSS 12:50 - Metaverse and virtual environments 21:59 - Opportunities and Challenges of AI 26:49 - More US respondents this year? 28:33 - Global differences in vibe? 33:46 - Personalisation and individualism 36:09 - New vs returning respondents 41:04 - The challenge of technology 52:47 - End

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What if the most powerful learning system in your organisation is already there — hidden in plain sight? In this episode, Dr Kinga Petrovai introduces The Learning Hive: a structured, research-informed model for peer learning that amplifies tacit knowledge, builds community, and accelerates learning transfer. Drawing on her academic background and real-world practice, Kinga explains why informal learning is often undervalued — and how deliberate design can make peer learning both human and effective.

Timestamps 00:02 – Introducing the Learning Hive

00:06 – What makes it true peer learning

00:12 – Origins in academic research

00:19 – Why "hives", not communities

00:25 – Systems thinking and learning design

00:31 – Peer learning, tacit knowledge, and AI

00:41 – Keeping the human at the heart of learning

00:50 – Karaoke closer

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Voices from Online Educa Berlin 2025.

Recorded at Online Educa Berlin 2025, this episode brings together five perspectives on keeping the human at the centre of learning in the age of AI. From global learning trends and AI maturity, to human-centred education, the Global South, emerging talent, and the long view of digital learning, these conversations capture the diversity, tensions, and possibilities shaping education and workplace learning worldwide.

Guests * Donald H. Taylor * Margaret Korosec * Ibraheem Adedayo Adediran * Buena Jill Galleposo * Paul Bacsich

Timestamps * 00:02:19 – Intro: OEB 2025 * 00:02:52 – Donald H. Taylor: humanity, AI, and the learning peloton * 00:26:48 – Margaret Korosec: human-centred AI and higher education * 00:49:56 – Ibraheem Adedayo Adediran: AI, counselling, and the Global South * 01:13:53 – Buena Jill Galleposo: 30 Under 30 and the future of learning * 01:30:26 – Paul Bacsich: distance learning, perspective, and continuity * 01:54:32 – End

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The year ahead for learning, skills and work As organisations head into 2026, Josh Bersin returns to The Learning Hack to make sense of what is really changing in work, skills and learning. Drawing on his latest research and global advisory work, Josh explains why AI has crossed a threshold, how jobs are being reshaped rather than eliminated, why skills velocity is fundamentally cultural, and why L&D is facing a once-in-a-generation structural reinvention.

Timestamps * 01:28 – Intro * 03:12 – What happened in 2025? * 05:08 – 'Superworkers' & 'supermanagers' * 09:39 – What's happening in the job market? * 16:40 – Skills velocity * 25:30 – What are the biggest shifts in L&D? * 31:08 – Where are the real, durable changes in learntech, a year ahead? * 36:44 – Obsequious LLMs * 38:03 – Differences across global regions? * 42:39 – What signals should people look out for in the coming year? * 46:25 – Should we expect consolidation in the learntech market? * 50:01 – End

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Recorded live at Online Educa Berlin, this episode of Great Minds on Learning explores AI and the Global South through history, hard lessons, and contemporary debate. John Helmer and Donald Clark examine early techno-utopian experiments, the ethics wars around AI, and newer perspectives rooted in language, power, and lived experience. From Negroponte and Mitra to Gebru, Arora, Manyika, and Mugane, the conversation asks who AI is really for—and who gets to decide.

Timestamps 00:57 – Intro

01:58 – Introduction to AI & the Global South

14:11 – Nicholas Negroponte

17:38 – Sugata Mitra

24:11 – Global South takes on AI

28:11 – Timnit Gebru

32:27 – Payal Arora

37:39 – James Manyika

43:12 – John Mugane

54:49 – Summing up

58:41 – Q&A

About the Show Great Minds on Learning explores 2,500 years of learning theory—from the Greeks to the geeks. Hosted by John Helmer and Donald Clark, the podcast connects historical ideas to today's debates in education, technology, and society.

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2025 was billed as a "make-or-break year" for L&D. But what actually happened? To make sense of a turbulent twelve months in learning, talent and HR, John Helmer speaks with Myles Runham of Fosway Group, Europe's leading analyst firm. They explore AI's real impact, shifting buying patterns, skills intelligence, evaluation, and whether L&D is heading for reinvention or obsolescence. A clear-eyed, data-led look at where we stand — and where we're heading.

Timestamps * 00:59 – Intro * 03:30 – Did we make it or break it? * 07:02 – Are organisations spending smarter or just spending less? * 09:06 – Have HR buying patterns changed too? * 16:24 – Where is he seeing genuine AI transformation? * 22:06 – Are organisations training enough on AI? * 25:00 – AI effects on the job market * 28:31 – Are we any closer to meaningful skills intelligence? * 34:57 – Are we getting any better at evaluation? * 37:31 – Trends in the systems and tools market * 43:06 – Will L&D avoid obsolescence? * 49:16 – Karaoke favourite?

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How AI agents are reshaping learning workflows and the L&D ecosystem "Agentic AI" is the buzzword of the moment. But how many people fully understand what it really means—or how it will change learning and work? Dr. Ashwin Mehta, Chief AI Strategist at the Learning & Performance Institute and founder of Mehtadology AI, joins John Helmer to unpack the hype and explore the practical realities of AI agents, workflow re-engineering, and the emerging skills ecosystem in learning and development.

Timestamps 00:00 - Start 01:51 - Intro 03:52 - AI strategist role with LPI 08:33 - What are AI agents? 12:41 - Is agentic AI tech widely available yet? 23:25 - What skills do L&D need to use Agentic AI? 29:25 - How Dr Mehta uses AI agents in his business 34:54 - Workflow re-engineering 40:14 - AI negatives Q&A: cost-cutting, slop, bias and AI armageddon 50:16 - How AI reshapes the L&D ecosystem 56:51 - End

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From refugee to Russian pop star, startup founder to life coach and evangelist pastor — Christian Ray Flores's journey has spanned continents, ideologies, and careers. In this remarkable conversation, John explores how those experiences shaped Christian's views on creativity, entrepreneurship, AI, faith, and the American dream. Can such diverse identities truly fit together? The result is a thought-provoking dialogue across boundaries of culture, belief, and experience.

Timestamps 00:00 – Start

00:51 – Intro

03:00 – Christian's extraordinary backstory: refugee, pop star, entrepreneur

08:15 – Standing out by serving others

09:42 – Building a personal brand: the "outer game"

13:45 – How his program helps people flourish

18:35 – The role of "good fuel" and "bad fuel" in motivation

25:24 – AI and the future of coaching

35:46 – Faith and human potential

47:00 – Immigration and American values

54:31 – Go-to karaoke song?

55:21 – End

Find John Helmer LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer

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Website: learninghackpodcast.com

The human heart of learning in a digital age.

Jay Moore and Doug Scott look back on the legendary Crotonville leadership institute — and forward to what its ethos means for learning in the age of AI. They tell John Helmer how a culture built on humility, connection and trust continues to shape GE's learning legacy today. As training becomes more digital, how do we preserve those "human moments" that make real development possible?

Timestamps:

00:51 - Intro
03:00 - What is Crotonville?
07:44 - What is the ethos and culture of Crotonville?
13:11 - How much learning is now digital at GE?
18:43 - Is Crotonville an ivory tower?
24:19 - How is the division into 3 business units affecting learning at GE?
40:44 - How do we keep humans in the loop – and in charge?
49:07 - Go-to karaoke song?
54:19 - End

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🌐 Website: learninghackpodcast.com

The Human Side of AI at Work

Brian Murphy, Global Head of Learning & Development at NTT DATA, shares his perspective on how AI is reshaping work and productivity. Drawing on his experience at Microsoft, AstraZeneca, and Citi, Brian argues for a human-centric coalition between people and machines. He explores how L&D and HR can steer organizations through AI transformation, ensuring it’s about value creation and capability — not just cost cutting.

Timestamps:

00:00 - Start

01:44 - Intro

03:45 - Challenges of redesigning work around AI

11:45 - Just a cost-cutting exercise?

16:08 - Role of people function in ensuring benefits, lessening friction

23:18 - An evolution of performance consulting

33:08 - Training AIs versus ‘training’ AIs

43:01 - How to be human-centric while deploying AI

51:01 - End

Contact:

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer
X: @johnhelmer
Bluesky: @johnhelmer.bsky.social
Website: learninghackpodcast.com

Systems, skills and the eight levers of learning transformation.

Lori Niles-Hoffman, learning strategist and data evangelist, joins John to explore how L&D can escape legacy mindsets and regain strategic impact. Drawing on her new book, Lori outlines the eight key levers for enterprise learning transformation, why ecosystems matter more than platforms, and how AI is reshaping the role of the learning professional.

Timestamps * 00:01:43 - Intro * 00:03:46 - What brought her into the world of learning tech? * 00:07:03 - What convinced her of the need for this book? * 00:12:58 - What are ‘the 8 Levers’? * 00:24:06 - Stakeholder management * 00:26:13 - Why is knowledge management lumped together with marketing? * 00:33:03 - Ecosystems thinking * 00:39:34 - Strategic alignment – a no-brainer? * 00:40:17 - Why hasn’t L&D tackled its long-standing challenges to date? * 00:48:58 - Will AI make us all systems designers? * 00:57:43 - Lori’s interesting take on AI ethics

Follow & Contact * LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer * X: @johnhelmer * Bluesky: @johnhelmer.bsky.social * Website: learninghackpodcast.com

Stanford professor Jan Liphardt—founder of OpenMind—joins the podcast to explore the future of learning at the intersection of AI, robotics, and human development. He explains why robot dogs might be ideal math tutors, how Socratic dialogue can be scaled through machines, and what AI means for education, healthcare, and daily life. A bold vision of multi-agent learning ecosystems from a scientist who’s seen both the lab and the startup world.

Timestamps · 00:00 – Start

· 01:47 – Intro

· 04:34 – What is OpenMind’s mission?

· 13:25 – What is Multi-Agent Endpoint and why does it matter?

· 18:53 – The learning potential of robots

· 24:50 – Robot dog tutors & socratic dialogue

· 28:36 – AI and Higher Ed

· 37:55 – AI & healthcare

· 46:03 – Is robotics developing slower than AI?

· 55:34 – End

Contact * LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer * X: @johnhelmer * Bluesky: @johnhelmer.bsky.social * Website: learninghackpodcast.com

AI shockwaves and human resilience in L&D

At the Learning Technologies Conference 2025, John Helmer speaks with leading voices in learning and AI—including Josh Bersin, Daniel Hulme, David Kelly, Jerome Pereira, Sophie Costin, Tadelayo Sodipe, and Donald H. Taylor—about disruption, ethics, innovation, and the changing role of L&D.

00:03:08 - Intro
00:05:08 - Josh Bersin
00:41:44 - Daniel Hulme
01:01:39 - David Kelly
01:26:57 - Prof. Jerome Pereira
01:58:09 - Sophie Costin
02:12:23 - Tadelayo Sodipe
02:33:39 - Donald H. Taylor
03:01:44 - End

Connect with John Helmer

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Website: learninghackpodcast.com

Leading Through Culture, Teams, and AI-driven Change

John Helmer discusses organizational culture, collective leadership, and AI's impact on future workplaces with Kevin Oakes (CEO, i4cp), Kim McMurdo (Global Head of OD, Standard Chartered), and Terry Jones (International Head of Talent Development, ex-PaloAlto Networks). Key themes include culture renovation, developing team-centric leadership capabilities, and leveraging AI for enhanced human productivity in rapidly evolving organizations.

The McKinsey paper mentioned in Kim's interview:

De Smet, A., D’Auria, G., Meijknecht, L., Albaharna, M., & Fifer, A. (2024, October 31). Go, teams: When teams get healthier, the whole organization benefits. McKinsey & Company. This article is available online at https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/people-and-organizational-performance/our-insights/go-teams-when-teams-get-healthier-the-whole-organization-benefits. (Please note that access to the full text may require a subscription or purchase.)

Timestamps:

00:00:00 – Start
00:01:09 – Intro
00:03:31 – Kevin Oakes on culture renovation vs. culture change
00:27:58 – Kim McMurdo on collective leadership and hybrid teams
00:48:41 – Terry Jones on innovation, disruption, and practical AI use
01:14:59 – End

Contact:

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Website: learninghackpodcast.com

The Battle To Keep Inclusion on the Organizational Agenda.

Is Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (D.E.I.) under existential threat? With political shifts and corporate cutbacks, is this the end of D.E.I. as we know it—or just a moment of transformation?

In this episode, John Helmer speaks with Amri B. Johnson, author of Reconstructing Inclusion and CEO of Inclusion Wins, about the evolving landscape of D.E.I. in the workplace. They discuss whether D.E.I. is fundamentally flawed, if it will persist under different branding, and how organizations should adapt to changing times.

Amri's links:

Dr. Jonathan Ashong-Lamptey https://www.linkedin.com/in/drjonathan/
Dr. Lauran Star https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauranstar/
Dr. David Livermore https://davidlivermore.com/
Dr. R. Roosevelt Thomas, Jr. https://sdms360.com/2017/11/30/the-shamming-of-diversity/
Frederick G. Falker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ajf1iMlwi_o
Peter Mousaferiadis https://www.linkedin.com/in/petermousaferiadis/
Aubrey Blanche-Sarellano https://www.linkedin.com/in/adblanche/

TIMESTAMPS:

• 00:00 – Start

• 01:09 – Intro

• 04:36 – Does he still have a job?

• 11:30 – Is the language of D.E.I. one of the problems with it?

• 22:19 – Will D.E.I. persist, but change its name and go underground?

• 25:40 – How does he respond to the studies that show D.E.I. training doesn’t work?

• 30:26 – Is D.E.I. just ‘woke capital’ at work?

• 51:41 – End

Connect with Amri B. Johnson:

• Website: Inclusion Wins

• LinkedIn: Amri B. Johnson’s Profile

• Twitter: @amribjohnson

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In this episode, John Helmer engages with UK-based artificial intelligence expert Robert Guidi to explore the potential impact of AI on Learning and Development (L&D). With a background in data science and technology policy, Robert has worked across industries to help organizations navigate the opportunities and risks of AI adoption, translating complex AI concepts into practical strategies. They discuss whether AI poses an existential threat to the L&D profession or offers new opportunities for growth and innovation. The conversation delves into practical applications of AI in L&D, the challenges of implementation, and the future landscape of learning technologies. They also discuss the book Robert is writing: ‘ChatL&D: A Practical Guide to AI-Powered Performance Support’.

Support the crowd funder for the book here (This link will be live from 4 March 2025)

Timestamps:

• 00:01:09 - Intro

• 00:03:36 - Does the world need another book about AI?

• 00:12:30 - Is AI an existential threat to L&D?

• 00:17:31 - An opportunity for 70/20/10 approaches?

• 00:25:27 - Generic versus specialized software tools

• 00:28:43 - The problem of ‘model drift’

• 00:31:35 - Implementation challenges

• 00:43:23 - Change Management

• 00:45:31 - Agentic AI

• 00:55:29 - Small language models

• 01:05:41 - When will the book come out?

• 01:09:11 - End

Contact Robert Guidi:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertguidi

Connect with Us:

• Website: www.learninghackpodcast.com

• Twitter: @johnhelmer

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-learning-hack-podcast

Mastering Skills Tech: Implementation, Validation & Organizational Change. In this episode, we delve into the evolving landscape of skills technology with Teresa Rose, an award-winning learning and performance consultant and founder of ConsultHer Ltd. With over 16 years of experience in organizational and people development, Teresa shares her insights on implementing skills technology, the importance of skills validation, and how organizations can adapt to make skills initiatives successful. We also explore topics such as process mapping, change management, and designing effective reskilling journeys. Tune in to gain a deeper understanding of how to leverage skills to drive organizational success.

Timestamps:

• 00:00 – Start

• 01:09 - Intro

• 03:35 - Implementing skills technology

• 07:45 - Skills validation

• 10:31 - Data sources for skills tech

• 21:22 - How does an organization need to adapt to make skills technology work?

• 24:24 - Process mapping

• 29:08 - Change management

• 37:44 - Skills portfolio management

• 40:23 - Designing reskilling journeys

• 46:45 - Further reading

• 49:06 - End

Guest Contact Information:

Teresa Rose

• Website: www.consulther.co.uk

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/teresar

Resources Mentioned:

• Guy W. Wallace’s work on process mapping and performance improvement

• Peter Sheppard’s insights on skill sensing networks at Ericsson

• Uncommon Sense by Julia Galef – a recommended read on decision-making and critical thinking

• The Oxford Review – for research on competencies and skills in organizational performance

Connect with Us:

• Website: www.learninghackpodcast.com

• Twitter: @johnhelmer

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-learning-hack-podcast

Challenging assumptions about learning, performance, and the rise of AI.

Nick Shackleton-Jones returns to The Learning Hack to challenge assumptions about learning theory, discuss his Affective Context Model, and reflect on the future of workplace learning. From TikTok as a learning platform to the risks of deceptive AI, this thought-provoking conversation will inspire and provoke in equal measure. Prepare for fresh insights and bold perspectives from one of learning’s great minds.

00:00:00 - Start
00:01:09 - Intro
00:03:40 - TikTok: the ultimate learning platform?
00:09:28 - What has Nick been doing in the last 5 years?
00:22:43 - Is learning ROI based on magical thinking
00:27:37 - How has his thinking changed since he first wrote ‘How People Learn’?
00:36:26 - Have digital media become too poisonous for learning?
00:42:37 - Has the move to performance support really happened in L&D?
00:47:05 - AI: Is Nick a P-Doomer?
01:09:41 - Who does he follow in learning?
01:13:03 - End

Contact John Helmer

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Bluesky: @johnhelmer.bsky.social
Website: learninghackpodcast.com

Voices from Berlin: Learning in the Age of AI.

In this episode, John Helmer reports from the Online Educa Berlin (OEB) Conference, engaging with four influential voices in learning and development: futurist Gerd Leonhard, workplace learning expert Laura Overton, digital education innovator Maribel Reyes-Millán, and L&D thought leader Donald H. Taylor. Together, they discuss the transformative power of AI, strategies for navigating disruption, and the evolving demands of learning in an uncertain world.

00:00:00 - Start
00:01:06 - Intro
00:03:08 - Gerd Leonhard
00:22:32 - Laura Overton
00:46:23 - Maribel Reyes Millán
01:00:52 - Donald H. Taylor
01:21:06 - End

Contact John Helmer

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Website: learninghackpodcast.com

Revisiting Learning Theories: Insights and Challenges for the Future

In this special live episode of Great Minds on Learning, recorded at Online Educa Berlin 2024, Donald Clark and John Helmer tackle listener questions about learning theory’s relevance, biases, and practical applications. They reflect on three years of the podcast, exploring 2,500 years of educational thought, and discuss the future of learning, including the transformative impact of AI. Engaging and insightful, this episode is a must-listen for learning professionals and enthusiasts alike.

00:00 - Start
00:59 - Introducing GMoL Question Time
08:17 - Why this podcast?
30:52 - What are the ‘lessons learned’?
47:48 - What next? AI and the future of institutional learning

The Blog that started it all:

https://donaldclarkplanb.blogspot.com/2021/09/these-were-written-as-quick-readable.html

Contact Donald

X: @DonaldClark
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-clark-04553022/
Blog: http://donaldclarkplanb.blogspot.com/

Contact John Helmer

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Email: john@learninghackpodcast.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/
Website: https://learninghackpodcast.com/

Breaking Barriers: Disability Awareness and Cultural Change in Workplaces In this episode, Chris Jay, founder of Bascule Disability Training, shares insights into creating inclusive workplaces and tackling stereotypes about disability. Drawing from personal experiences as a wheelchair user with cerebral palsy, Chris discusses the economic benefits of inclusion, the challenges of hidden disabilities, and the importance of cultural change. He also explores disability representation in media through his film initiative, Bascule Entertainment, advocating for authentic, empowering narratives.

00:00 - Start
00:51 - Intro
08:31 - Has disabilty awareness improved?
12:42 - The economic case for workplace inclusivity
15:42 - Hidden disabilities
20:04 - Does DEI training work?
24:03 - What really works in inclusiveness training?
28:51 - Do mental health disabiities get more ‘airtime’ nowadays than physical?
31:14 - Chris’s work in showbiz
36:55 - Where does he go for inspiration and information?
40:02 – End

Follow Chris Jay:

· LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/chris-jay-bascule
· Websites:
bascule.com (Bascule Disability Training)
bascule.com/training/business-training (Training for Businesses)
bascule.com/online-training (Bascule's online training)
Email: chris@bascule.com

Contact John Helmer

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LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer
Website: learninghackpodcast.com
Patreon: patreon.com/LearningHack

Send in your questions for the Great Minds on Learning Q&A! Donald Clark and John Helmer will answer them at Online Educa Conference in Berlin, which will be recorded for a podcast episode to be issued before Christmas 2024. Email them in to john@learninghackpodcast.com or reach out on social media.

Strategic Insights on Leadership, AI, and Skills for Tomorrow John Helmer explores the future of learning with Anne-Valérie Corboz (HEC Paris), Jane Underwood (Reckitt), and Sarah Otley (Akkodis Academy). They discuss leadership evolution, generative AI’s impact, and strategies for building future-ready skills. From innovation challenges to aligning L&D with business goals, this episode offers actionable insights for learning professionals navigating rapid technological change and preparing for tomorrow’s workplace. A must-listen for those shaping the future of education and work.

00:00:00 - Start
00:01:11 - Intro
00:01:50 - Anne_Valerie Corboz
00:22:45 - Ad - iVentiv
00:23:26 - Jane Underwood
00:43:32 - Sarah Otley
01:13:49 – End

Guest contacts:

Anne-Valérie Corboz: Associate Dean for Executive Education at HEC Paris.

Email: annevaleriecorboz@gmail.com
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/corboz
X: @AnneVCorboz

Jane Underwood: Global Head of Learning at Reckitt.

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/janeunderwoodorganisationaldevelopment
X: @JaneUnderwood

Sarah Otley: Global Head of Akkodis Academy.

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/sarah-otley-0a065620
X: @SarahOtley

Contact John Helmer

X: @johnhelmer
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer
Website: learninghackpodcast.com

The Future of Learning with AI: Moving Past Simple Applications to Transformational Impact (Learning Leaders pilot) This episode premieres the newest podcast from the Learning Hack stable, Learning Leaders, produced by NIIT in association with The Learning Hack. In this pilot episode, John explores the future of AI learning with Gregg Collins and Sailesh Lalla. Moving beyond content creation, they discuss how AI can drive performance by delivering personalized, real-time learning experiences. Discover the next wave of AI-powered simulations, intelligent tutoring, and immersive learning that goes beyond traditional courses, aiming to transform how organizations approach skill-building and unlock true business impact.

00:00:00 - Start
00:00:18 - Intro
00:02:03 - Will AI only intensify L&D’s addiction to courses
00:07:12 - Will AI be a solution looking for a problem in learning (like VR?)
00:19:44 - Does interacting with AI teach management skills?
00:38:10 - Learning and The Business
00:44:04 - What is the next step in AI for learning?
00:51:35 - What is the top level or goal of NIIT’s maturity model for AI?
01:04:36 - How do we preserve humanity in AI-driven learning?

Sponsored by NIIT

Website: https://www.niit.com/en/learning-outsourcing/

Follow Greg:

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/gregg-collins-54a3971
Email: gregg.collins@niit.com

Follow Sailesh:

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/sailesh-lalla-3224b2
Email: saileshl@niit.com

Contact John Helmer

X: @johnhelmer
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer
Website: learninghackpodcast.com
Patreon: patreon.com/LearningHack

Exploring Appalachia’s Culture and Countering Stereotypes Through Podcasting

In this episode, John Helmer is joined by Brigid McCormack, podcast producer and researcher, to discuss her study on podcasting in the Appalachian region of the United States. Brigid shares how local podcasters in this culturally rich yet often stereotyped region are using the medium to tell authentic stories and challenge long-standing negative narratives. She also touches on the power of oral storytelling and podcasting as a learning medium and reflects on her role at Assemble You.

For her research, McCormack focused on four podcasts created by five podcasters from the Appalachian region:

Appodlachia by Chuck Corra: A podcast that takes a critical look at politics and economics in Appalachia, often addressing current issues and challenging stereotypes.
What's Appalachian? by Gabe and Cody: A more casual, conversational podcast where the hosts discuss their daily lives, providing an authentic glimpse into contemporary Appalachian experiences.
Now Appalachia by Eliot Parker: This podcast focuses on storytelling and also touches on political and social issues in the region.
Appalachian Imagination by Jason: A conversational podcast featuring local friends and community members, offering diverse perspectives on Appalachian life.

Timestamps:

00:00 - Intro
03:44 - Brigid’s research work on digital futures
06:03 - About Appalachia
07:49 - Appalachian stereotypes
16:47 - What did she learn about Appalachia?
19:19 - What podcast formats did they use?
23:23 - What conclusions did she draw from her work?
29:22 - What did she learn about learning?
39:51 - Her role at Assemble You
43:31 - End

Follow Brigid McCormack:

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/brigid-mccormack
Website: podsandprose.com

Contact John Helmer

X: @johnhelmer
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer
Website: learninghackpodcast.com
Patreon: patreon.com/LearningHack

An innovative performance support project in healthcare points the way to significant productivity improvements.

In this episode, John Helmer is joined by Saskia Huusen, Sanne Mateman, and Callum Clark to discuss a groundbreaking AI-powered learning project at the Alrijne Healthcare Group. This practical conversation dives deep into the real-world application of AI in learning, demonstrating eye-opening time savings and efficiency improvements in a healthcare setting.

The team shares how they implemented AI to improve workflow learning for surgical assistants, reducing SME time by 70% and shortening project timelines by 40%. They discuss the challenges of working with AI, how it differs from traditional performance support, and what they’ve learned through this innovative project. For anyone interested in AI for learning, this episode is packed with valuable insights on integrating AI into workplace learning.

Timestamps:

00:00 - Intro
02:57 - Introducing the project
06:11 - Meet the team
09:51 - What part did AI play?
12:13 - What couldn’t be done by more traditional means?
14:54 - How different was project management?
20:41 - Did it help that they are young?
23:01 - The solution
29:14 - What did they learn as a team from doing the project?
43:02 - What are they doing next?
50:33 - Who to follow on AI (and who to avoid!)
54:58 - End

Follow Saskia Huusen:

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/saskia-huussen
Website (company): https://xprtise.com/en/

Follow Sanne Mateman:

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/sanne-mateman

Follow Callum Clark:

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/callumclark

Contact John Helmer

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LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer
Website: learninghackpodcast.com
Patreon: patreon.com/LearningHack

The Chair of iVentiv’s upcoming Learning Futures conference talks AI, performance and L&D complacency.

John Helmer speaks with Charles Jennings, managing director of Duntroon Consultants and a founding partner of the 70:20:10 Institute. Charles has over 40 years of experience in corporate learning and performance improvement and is widely known for advocating the 70:20:10 framework. The conversation delves into the future of workplace learning, exploring how L&D professionals can evolve their strategies to drive organizational success in a rapidly changing environment.

Charles shares his thoughts on generative AI and its potential role in reshaping learning. He also discusses the importance of shifting focus from individual learning to team performance, emphasizing that teams are the “atomic units” of delivery in any organization.

The episode further explores the current obsession with skills mapping and competency frameworks, with Charles offering a more holistic approach. He challenges the idea that skills development alone can drive organizational excellence and highlights the broader systemic factors that contribute to high performance.

00:00 - Start
03:16 - Is his a ‘restless intelligence?’
06:19 - Will Gen AI prevent or reinforce bad habits in L&D
09:39 - Implications of AI for L&D’s role in the organisation
12:54 - The ‘skills obsession’ of L&D
17:17 - Are skills mapping exercises a waste of money
21:08 - Are we getting any better at thinking systemically
25:52 - Performance support: what are we waiting for
35:26 - Teams and social media
39:56 - Introducing the iVentiv conference Charles is Chairing
45:27 - Who does he follow?
50:41 – End

Sponsor link:

https://iventiv.com/learninghack

Follow Charles

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/charles-jennings
70:20:10 Institute: https://702010institute.com/
Duntroon: http://www.duntroon.com/
Blog: https://charles-jennings.blogspot.com/

Contact John Helmer

X: @johnhelmer
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/
Website: https://learninghackpodcast.com/
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/LearningHack

How a top CLO, author and podcaster transforms learning strategy.

In this special 100th episode of The Learning Hack podcast, we celebrate a milestone by diving deep into curiosity and corporate learning with Simon Brown, Global Learning and Development Leader at EY and best-selling author of The Curious Advantage. Simon, formerly CLO at Novartis, shares his insights on the pivotal role curiosity plays in driving personal and organizational growth. We explore how AI is reshaping learning landscapes, and Simon offers invaluable lessons on fostering innovation, building effective learning strategies, and navigating rapid change. Join us for an engaging conversation that marks our centenary episode with a true thought leader.

00:00 - Start
00:41 - Intro
03:26 - Why curiosity?
11:22 - Simon’s journey to top CLO
16:09 - How did he form his team at Novartis?
21:15 - How did he get the resources and C-Suite buy-in for the change?
26:58 - How specific is his take on strategy to the sectors he has worked in?
31:34 - His role at EY
36:07 - Is there substance behind the skills hype?
39:34 - Will AI-driven learning shut down curiosity?
47:47 - How does he pursue his own learning, and what sources does he follow?
53:25 - End

Sponsor link:

https://iventiv.com/learninghack

Follow Simon

Linkedin: linkedin.com/in/simoncbrown1
The Curious Advantage (podcast): https://open.spotify.com/show/0fhW2Xj66JcumYeh6gljZ
The Curious Advantage (book): https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/53731453-the-curious-advantage

Contact John Helmer

X: @johnhelmer
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/
Website: https://learninghackpodcast.com/
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/LearningHack

Learning Technologies London is Europe's leading showcase of organisational learning and the technology used to support learning at work. John Helmer visited the show and talked to a rich mix of the most interesting people he found there: the analyst, the ingenue, the philosopher, the CLO, the keynoter, the vendor, the budget holder and the pirate (yarr!). The result is a snapshot of the industry, and a deep dive into key themes and insights shaping the future of the learning profession.

00:00:00 - Start
00:00:48 - Intro
00:03:01 - Adam Lacey
00:08:19 - Hannah Frame
00:20:12 - Julian Stodd
00:29:42 - Paul Matthews
00:37:44 - Thimon de Jong
00:51:38 - Lauren Waldman
01:02:44 - Egle Vinauskaite
01:16:06 - Dani Johnson
01:27:31 - David Perring
01:46:16 - Caroline Ford
02:19:52 - Don Taylor
02:30:21 - End

Follow John Helmer

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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/
Website: https://learninghackpodcast.com/
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/LearningHack

An award-winning learning designer reflects on 30 episodes of our sister podcast, Great Minds on Learning.

This episode features a deep dive into the history of learning theory with Leonard Houx, Director of Learning Design at the Cambridge Education Group. Host John Helmer and Houx embark on an intellectual journey through the evolution of educational philosophy, touching on the contributions of ancient Greeks, German idealists, and the foundational concepts of modern education systems.

00:00:00 - Start
00:00:36 - Intro
00:03:12 - Reflections on Great Minds on Learning
00:10:22 - The Greeks
00:39:02 - Separating the knower from the known
00:53:28 - The German Idealists
01:10:47 - Hegel & recognition
01:20:07 - Previewing next season of Great Minds on Learning
01:32:19 - End

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What does the intense focus on AI in learning today have to say about the future of L&D?

Don Taylor is a well-recognised commentator and thinker in the fields of workplace learning and supporting technologies. He speaks world-wide, and has chaired the Learning Technologies Conference in London since 2000. His annual L&D Global Sentiment Survey, started in 2014, provides a unique perspective on L&D trends from over 100 countries, asking the question, what’s going to be hot in L&D? No surprise, perhaps, that the answer this year was AI. But the scale of the vote for AI was unprecedented, and raises serious questions about the future of L&D.

00:00 - Start
01:06 - Intro
03:39 - An unprecedented survey result
06:07 - Has any other tech ever dominated the survey quite so much?
08:42 - How has the sentiment about AI changed over time?
21:13 - Are we on the verge of a ‘correction’ to AI enthusiasm?
28:37 - What does the survey tell us about L&D challenges?
32:27 - With all the focus on AI, what are we NOT focusing on?
36:38 - Preview of Learning Technologies Ex & Conf, London
45:56 - Who does Don draw inspiration from?
51:30 - End

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Webinar: Designing a Successful Learning Content Strategy with Mike Taylor and Bianca Baumann on 9 April 2024, register now at: https://hubs.la/Q02qdB160 The Mindtools visualization of GSS over time:
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/gent-ahmetaj_lndtrends-data-ai-activity-7165807077620195328-SftU

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Turning uncertainty from a problem into an opportunity.

We are living in a time of great uncertainty. Economies are still suffering the effects of Covid. Countries that are home to nearly half the world's population will hold elections in 2024. Meanwhile the climate is going mad, and geopolitics seem balanced on a knife edge. How do we cope with all this uncertainty in our personal and working lives? Katherine Templar Lewis and Sam Conniff are uncertainty experts, who bring their learning in neuroscience, psychology, history and social entrepreneurship to bear in helping organizations and individuals improve uncertainty tolerance.

0:00:00 - Start
00:00:31 - Intro
00:03:16 - Is uncertainty more than just a trend?
00:12:23 - Where does all this uncertainty come from
00:20:42 - How can we deal with uncertainty?
00:30:09 - Is AI increasing uncertainty?
00:38:22 - Be more pirate to profit from uncertainty
00:44:45 - Practical advice for coping with uncertainty
01:02:12 - End

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In the age of AI, what do we need humans for?

The latest advances in AI are highlighting human capabilities, and particularly shortcomings, in a way that causes us once again to re-evaluate what it is to be human. Rob Hubbard is Founder of LearningAge Solutions, an award-winning provider of digital learning services that practices what it calls human-centred learning. What exactly does that mean in the age of AI – and what does the future, for people who want to continue to work and provide value in the learning industries, look like?

00:00 - Start
00:31 - Intro
03:06 - What does he mean by ‘Human-centred Learning’?
11:13 - What is technology telling us about our strengths & weaknesses as humans?
23:45 - Mindfulness and attention
27:11 - Human thinking vs machine thinking
31:00 - Dealing with the shortcomings of technology
41:45 - Advice for employees in the new future of work
52:16 - Who does he follow?
57:41 - End

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Does the way we talk about learning improve our understanding – or hold it back?

The language of learning is charged with resonant abstract nouns that mobilize professionals around new ideas and concepts. But are these concepts really so new in all cases – and do they provide a focus for practical action? To what extent is the debate driven by the commercial imperatives of Learntech vendors rather than the real needs of employees and students? Peter Manniche Riber is Head of Digital Learning at Novo Nordisk, Europe's most valuable company, and a formidable critic of this 'buzzword bingo'. He talks to John Helmer about the language of learning. Does it help or hinder?

00:00:00 - Start
00:00:33 - Intro
00:03:19 - Is the language we use in learning fit for purpose?
00:09:06 - Peter’s Top 3 buzzword dislikes
00:12:34 - Drilling into those top 3 buzzword hates
00:26:17 - Digital Transformation
00:36:35 - Gamification
00:38:41 - GenAI and the language of learning
00:49:51 - The language of L&D
01:05:42 – End

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Can business professionals perform better with improv skills?

We admire great improvisers in music (Charlie Parker, Jimi Hendrix, etc.) while tending to be suspicious of leaders in business and government who seem to be 'making it up as they go along'. But are we right to think that way? Berlin-based Belina Raffy runs a consultancy and training company that helps people in organisations develop improvisation ability. She’s lived in many different countries including the UK, and worked in Finance before finding her vocation as a learning person. Institutions she has studied at include Ithaca College New York, the Chinese University in Hong Kong and Cranfield School of Management. Does this peripatetic early life, we wanted to find out, perhaps hold the key to her skills as an improviser?

00:00 - Start 00:33 - Intro 03:10 - What use is improv to serious business people? 11:04 - How relevant are her exercises to the working situation? 21:27 - Leadership, improv and integrity 27:38 - Theoretical underpinnings of improv? 39:59 - Belina’s journey in learning 50:47 - End

Sponsor event: AI & Training Design Masterclass with Dr. Philippa Hardman presented by aNewSpring, sign up at: https://hubs.la/Q02f-8PZ0 Book mentioned in the discussion: The Dawn of Everything. (2023, August 24). In Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dawn_of_Everything Follow Belina Linkedin: linkedin.com/in/belina-raffy Website (company): http://www.maffick.com/

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What is the best approach to using AI for learning in an organisation?

My guest this time on the Learning Hack thinks that it’s really important to know what problem you are trying to solve with AI in order to use it effectively for learning. The product has to come before the product. Egle Vinauskaite is the award-winning director of the learning innovation consultancy Nodes. Her expertise in learning, behavioural science, and technology has made her a sought-after edtech advisor by top startups and blue-chip companies. In this fascinating discussion, Egle describes how AI is ushering in entirely new ways of doing things in the world of learning and edtech.

00:33 - Intro 02:47 - What is ‘product mindset’? 11:22 - How well does the interface between buyers and sellers function? 22:17 - Generative AI and learning 40:01 - Egle’s journey in learning 46:56 - End

Sponsor event: AI & Training Design Masterclass with Dr. Philippa Hardman presented by aNewSpring, sign up at: https://hubs.la/Q02f-8PZ0 Mentioned in the discussion: Ethan Mollick: https://mgmt.wharton.upenn.edu/profile/emollick/ Follow Egle Linkedin: linkedin.com/in/vinauskaite Website (company): https://www.nodes.works/ Email: egle.vinauskaite@gmail.com Contact John Helmer X: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: https://learninghackpodcast.com/ Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/LearningHack Contact John Helmer X: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: https://learninghackpodcast.com/ Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/LearningHack/

BONUS EPISODE: A talk by John Helmer recorded at the New Learning Conference, Netherlands.

Podcasts are everywhere, and have become recognised as a powerful information medium. But can a podcast really cut the mustard as a learning experience? This talk by John Helmer of the Learning Hack podcast, given as a 'live podcast session' at the Next Learning event, provides some answers. John looks at the learning theory around audio learning, practical considerations for using podcasts in an organisational (or institutional) context, and examples of podcasts being used to teach skills and support people in their learning.

Introduction to podcasts for learning
What the literature says
The eye versus the ear
Cognitive load
Drawbacks & caveats
The affective domain
Practical exercise: sleep and learning (Stickgold & Walker)

What can horses and brain damage teach us about learning?

Sarah Ratcliff is an award-winning Learning Consultant, Speaker, and Ambassador for Learning, with over twenty years experience in the industry. She is currently a spokesperson for the learning provider Cegos, and a regular chair for the Learning Technologies conference. In 2020, she earned the esteemed Learning Professional of the Year award from the LPI. She talks to John about how the experiences in her life that have formed her views about learner engagement, including her love of horses and a debilitating head injury.

00:00 - Start
02:52 - How did Sarah get into learning?
09:47 - How do horses inform her view of learning?
14:48 - Her car crash and recovery
23:57 - Learner engagement
26:47 - Are marketing techniques useful for learner engagement?
36:10 - The extended L&D toolkit of today
42:59 - End

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Email: sarah.ratcliff@cegos.co.uk

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'It all started when NASA read our code ...' Jussi Hurskainen is CEO and co-founder of Valamis, a learning systems company with offices in in the US, India, and across Europe, but headquartered in Finland. In a crowded market, Valamis distinguishes itself by the sophisticated way its platform handles data. Jussi tells John about how the product got its start when Nasa engineers read and were impressed by its code – and what it has been like over the last few years running a company whose worforce straddled the Russian border. * 00:00 - Start * 00:35 - Intro * 03:48 - What is Valamis? * 05:01 - Market condition in learning technologies * 07:19 - How does Valamis differentiate in the crowded mid-market? * 11:50 - How does his LXP deal with personalization? * 14:33 - What part does AI play in the solution? * 17:17 - How have acquisitions featured in the development of the company? * 21:11 - Origins of the company * 23:29 - Jussi’s learning journey * 25:38 - Effects of the Ukraine invasion on Valamis * 28:42 - Jussi’s influences * 31:04 - End

Follow Jussi * Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jussihurskainen * Website (company): http://www.valamis.com/ * X: @jhurska Email: jussi.hurskainen@valamis.com

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Lauren Waldman is a learning consultant, educator, and the founder of The Learning Pirate. She is a certified training and development professional and has received qualifications in Neuroscience from Harvard and John Hopkins University, and in Medical Neuroscience from Duke. She works with organizations to create bespoke, scientifically designed learning programs using the latest cognitive and behavioural science. But with whole learning and development departments being laid off currently, she believes the profession faces an existential threat. Could embracing neuroscience help to prevent its demise? * 00:00 - Start * 00:35 - Intro * 03:39 - The Pirate Code * 11:00 - Does learning theory conflict with neuroscience * 15:34 - What does neuroscience tell us about how possible (or impossible) it is to change the way we think & feel? * 17:12 - Is there a serious side to the piracy stuff? * 23:26 - Joining Forces With Your Brain * 30:06 - Mythbusting * 33:30 - How did she get into learning? * 42:55 - End

Follow Lauren * Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauren-waldman-learning-pirate-4666bab * Website (company): http://www.learningpirate.com/ * X: @LearningPirate * YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@learningpirate6046

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Kevin M. Yates is known in the global training, learning, and talent development community as the L&D Detective. He investigates impact and solves measurement mysteries with facts, clues, evidence, and data. His rigorous but pragmatic approach is informed by 25+ years industry experience serving in diverse roles across multiple industries and brands including Grant Thornton, Kantar, McDonald’s, and Meta (Facebook). Kevin talks to John about how he see the current state of learning evaluation in organisations – he's optimistic – and what AI holds for the future of his practice.

00:00 - Start
00:35 - Intro
03:03 - What crimes does the L&D detective detect
05:00 - How did he get his start in learning?
06:26 - Where are we with measurement in L&D?
09:50 - What can and should we measure in learning?
15:01 - Is training that can’t be measured even worth doing?
20:30 - Useful models For measuring learning
26:48 - Is measurement different in an algorithm-driven company?
32:39 - Will AI kill xAPI?
37:16 - Meals in the Meantime
39:57 - Kevin’s inspirations
42:27 - End

The Six Disciplines of Breakthrough Learning: How to Turn Training and Development Into Business Results, By Roy Pollock Andrew Jefferson Calhoun Wick https://www.td.org/books/the-six-disciplines-of-breakthrough-learning-3rd-edition Follow Kevin * Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinmyates * Website (personal): http://kevinmyates.com/ * Website (voluntary work) http://mealsinthemeantime.org/ * Email: kevin@kevinmyates.com * X (Twitter): @kevinmyates

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With their delivery of humanitarian aid to Ukraine accomplished, Andy and John head back home, retracing their tracks across Northern Europe. In a harrowing interview, John talks to a Ukrainian elearning specialist now based in Germany following the sad death of her husband on the frontline in Bahmut. And in Theorists Corner we feature John Comenius and Eric Kandel. * 00:00 - Start * 00:44 - Intro * 02:39 - TFI Friday * 15:29 - Theorists Corner: John Comenius * 18:36 - Interview: Yuliia Kovach * 28:18 - How Yuliia met Viktor * 32:45 - Russia invades * 41:49 - Life after Viktor * 53:56 - Theorists Corner: Eric Kandel * 56:04 - Final update from Run 19 * 58:59 - Outro

Ukraine Fundraiser 2022 * More information: http://www.ukrainefundraiser.co.uk * Donate: https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/ukrainefundraiser2022

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Arrived in Ukraine, Andy and John deliver their aid to the hospital in Lviv. With the main object of the trip accomplished, they take a walk around the city and assess the mood. John interviews Vladimir Polo, a learntech entrepreneur based in Odesa about what it has been like to run a learning company in a war zone. And, in Theorists Corner we feature Lev Vygotsky and Wilhelm Reich. * 00:00 - Start * 01:11 - Intro * 01:43 - From the border to Lviv * 04:47 - Theorists Corner: Lev Vygotsky * 06:34 - Fulfilling the Prime Directive * 09:48 - Interview: Vladimir Polo * 15:00 - Managing a dispersed business from a war zone * 21:25 - The invasion and its impact on the company * 30:29 - Lviv vibes * 32:21 - Theorists Corner: Wilhelm Reich * 34:16 - Outro

Ukraine Fundraiser 2022  * More information: http://www.ukrainefundraiser.co.uk

Donate: https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/ukrainefundraiser2022

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Over three episodes we tell the story of what happened when John Helmer hitched a ride with Andy Wooler, chair of Ukraine Fundraiser 2022, to help deliver humanitarian aid to recently bombed Lviv. They chat about the conflict, about learning ... and about the history of the continent they are crossing from West to East. * 00:00 - Start * 00:44 - Intro * 01:32 - JH thoughts before leaving * 05:09 - The rehearsal * 07:26 - Introducing Theorists Corner * 07:47 - Dover * 08:23 - Dunkirk * 08:34 - Belgium * 09:12 - Netherlands * 10:07 - Theorists Corner: Huizinga * 11:45 - Theorists Corner: Erasmus * 14:31 - Adaptive learning & AI * 21:15 - Germany * 22:44 - Military training * 28:07 - Theorists Corner: Ebbinghaus * 29:15 - Theorists Corner: Luther * 31:25 - Poland * 40:30 - Outro

  Ukraine Fundraiser 2022  * More information: http://www.ukrainefundraiser.co.uk

Donate: https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/ukrainefundraiser2022

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Oceans cover 71% of the earth’s surface, and a huge workforce crews and manages the ships that sail on them. These people all have to be trained. While learntech companies now largely work across business sectors, there are those whose learning needs are so niche and specific that they call for a specialist. Maritime is such a sector. In this episode, John talks to Raal Harris, Chief Creative Officer at Ocean Technologies Group, a global learntech vendor servicing the Maritime Industry. Raal definitely IS a specialist, and knows the sector inside out. * 0:00 - Intro * 3:37 - How important is Maritime to global business? * 5:37 - How Raal got into the sector * 8:38 - Uniqueness in the sector's training * 16:52 - Importance of Language Learning * 22:48 - Decarbonising Shipping * 31:49 - How Ocean came together * 38:14 - Differences between learning sectors * 51:18 - Where Raal gets his knowledge in learning development

  Follow Raal  * Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/raal-harris-05827710

Website (company): https://oceantg.com/
Email: raal.harris@oceantg.com

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Shell is an organisation in transition. It’s moving from a federated model of training to something more centralized. At the same time it’s bringing together L&D with organizational development, and knowledge management is moving closer to learning as well. And all this is happening against a background of a huge shift in skills needed within the organization as it moves into more sustainable forms of energy alongside its traditional businesses. In this episode, John talks to Jaap Hoogendoorn, VP Learning Solutions at Shell. Jaap leads a large, globally dispersed team of learning professionals in delivering these changes. He talks about the challenges, the progress made, and the effects of the Green Transition on Shell's learning function.

0:00 - Intro
3:51 - Shell and the Green Transition
6:56 - Jaap's background and career journey
10:13 - From federated to centralised learning
20:16 - Has tech helped the change?
24:16 - Uniting L&D and OD
37:56 - Innovative approaches to reskilling
45:32 - Results of the change so far?
50:38 - Where does he draw inspiration from?

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Website (company): https://www.shell.com/
Email: jaap.hoogendoorn@me.com

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The 'Jobs To Be Done' approach (or framework) encourages a focus on what your end-user is trying to achieve when they access a product, service or experience. As professor Theodore Levitt puts it: 'People don't want a quarter-inch drill, they want a quarter-inch hole'. John talks to Ger Driesen, Learning Innovation Leader at the learning system provider aNewSpring, about how it can be applied to learning. Could this make for a more learner-centred approach to learning design, or might it raise conflicts with the priorities of organizational development? And what is the role of AI under this framework? * 0:00 - Intro * 3:24 - Ger's journey in learning * 6:36 - The jobs-to-be-done framework * 8:57 - How it will affect learning * 12:14 - Examples of how the framework specifics work * 20:41 - How the framework plays in an organisation * 22:29 - The impact on L&D professionals * 24:03 - Does AI have a role in this? * 26:27 - Where to follow Ger

  Links  * An overview blog for JTBD for learning design: https://www.anewspring.com/the-jobs-to-be-done-approach/

A 'why JTBD' blog: https://www.anewspring.com/improve-learning-design-jobs-to-be-done/

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Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gerdriesen/
Twitter: @GerDriesen
Ger's learning notes: https://www.anewspring.com/gers-learning-notes/
Website (company): https://www.anewspring.com/

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Adaptive learning systems were among the first to use artificial intelligence, creating a subcategory in learntech that has been on a slow burn since the 2010s. With the meteoric rise to prominence this year of AI in the headlines, thanks to ChatGPT and other publicly accessible generative AI tools, does the future now look bright for adaptive learning – or does it risk being swept away in the tsunami of over-hyped hopes and fears that this phenomenon has generated? John talks to Markus Bernhardt, Chief Evangelist of adaptive vendor Obrizum about this and other current topics concerning AI. Markus brings hope, some reassurance, but also further causes for concern about the use of AI in corporates that haven't so far registered in the public debate. * 0:00 - Intro * 4:51 - Origin of OBRIZUM * 5:47 - How AI is used to adapt their learning courses * 16:41 - Markus's background * 20:05 - Should we rule out ChatGTP for its lack of imagery? * 26:47 - What role do human trainers play? * 36:28 - Future of corporate learning * 41:52 - Risks of AI within corporate learning * 48:21 - Where to follow Markus - and who Markus follows

Follow Markus: * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markus-bernhardt * Website (company): http://obrizumgroup.com/

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This episode is part 2 of a podcast swap with the Video Learning Lab podcast run by Kevin Alster. Kevin is a Learning Strategist at Synthesia, the Denmark-based video learning company, and was previously employed as a designer of learning experiences at The New York Times and Sotheby’s. John talks to him about Synthesia's AI-generated avatars, which are rapidly gaining use in learning programmes. This wide-ranging discussion covers many of the most topical questions about use of AI in learning. And in a first for the Learning Hack podcast, the episode is introduced by AI generated avatars, replacing the usual cast of human presenters. * 0:00 - Intro * 3:08 - Technology behind Synthesia's AI * 11:15 - Ensuring inclusive avatar representation * 20:53 - The impact on elearning * 27:54 - Success stories in AI-assisted learning * 35:47 - How L&D people will evolve with AI-generated Avatars * 52:14 - Addressing risks of AI Avatars * 55:11 - What challenges are there? * 1:05:05 - Where to follow Kevin?

Episode links: * 'GPTs are GPTs: An early look at the labor market impact potential of large language models': https://openai.com/research/gpts-are-gpts * Karen X. Cheng: https://www.karenx.com/ * Nina Schick: Https://ninaschick.org/

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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinalster
Website (Synthesia): https://www.synthesia.io/
Synthesia academy: https://www.synthesia.io/academy
Website: (personal) http://kevinalster.wordpress.com/
Email: kevin.alster@gmail.com
Twitter: @Kalstere

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Coming from a background of digital transformation, Matt Wilkinson has created a live elearning company that combines human-delivered and digital learning in a scalable way, stealing a bit of a march on more content-focused competitors. His company, CEyX, help teams build the technology skills and confidence necessary to positively impact their performance. Clients include Deliveroo, PA Consulting and the Department for Culture Media and Sport. John asks him what is unique about his model, and why he thinks more technology training vendors haven't, to date, adopted it. * 0:00 - Intro 3:15 - What does CEyX do? * 5:28 - Matt's Background * 7:42 - Perception of how tech skills are taught * 10:58 - How CEyX teaches this different? * 14:00 - How scale-able and tangible are these results? * 18:54 - How unique is this model? * 27:10 - Biggest challenges in scale-up companies * 30:06 - Matt's thoughts on A.I. * 42:29 - Where can we follow Matt Wilkinson?

Follow Matt * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-wilkinson-ceyx * Website (company): https://www.ceyx.uk/ * Website (personal) http://www.nutcrackermtb.co.uk/

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This episode we're giving the channel over to one of our favourite podcasts, Video Learning Lab. The podcast is hosted by Kevin Alster, who runs an innovative video learning company called Synesthesia, which uses lifelike AI-generated avatars as presenters. We're going to feature Kevin as a guest on the Learning Hack very soon, but in this podcast he interviews John. Kevin wanted to know what he'd picked up from running his two podcasts about how best to design learning. They also explore John's insights gleaned over the years from working in communications and also in the creative arts (he was in a top ten band, had a novel published and wrote and appeared in a series of comedy mini-musicals on Channel 4 in the UK). Due to a technical glitch the interview here is a bit truncated, but if you desperately need that last 5 minutes, you can listen to Kevin's channel on YouTube or Spotify – links below. Key Takeaways: * Instructional design can get in its way with an extremely narrow focus on instructional design principles. * L&D has a marketing problem. We should always try to excite the desire for people to listen/complete our entire learning program. * Learning can channel a marketing mindset by tapping into creativity – not only in how we structure content, but also by how we deliver it. If you're putting learning into video, that is a creative act and you should think about how you're engaging learners.

Get the extended episode on Kevin's channels: * YouTube: http://youtu.be/K_bCZEaQbRI * Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/63vvFB7DpWr6eacW0qjR9X

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Website (Company): https://www.synthesia.io/
Website (personal): http://kevinalster.wordpress.com/
Email: kevin.alster@gmail.com
Twitter: @Kalstere

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Michelle Parry-Slater is Learning & Development Director of Kairos Modern Learning, and author of the Learning And Development Handbook. This guide for learning practitioners is realistic about the organizational context in which L&D has to operate, with its many new stresses and confilcting priorities. She encourages L&D people to think more strategically, and indicates mindsets, skillsets and toolsets for each of the major challenges L&D faces. * 0:00 - Intro * 2:51 - The Learning & Development Handbook * 4:54 - L&D and String Theory * 6:59 - The dividing line between L&D and Organisational Development * 9:15 - Conversation between learning and the business * 11:36 - Skillsets to think strategically * 20:42 - Thoughts on A.I. Development * 27:40 - Where to follow Michelle's thoughts

The Learning & Development Handbook:

https://www.koganpage.com/product/the-learning-and-development-handbook-9781789663327 Follow Michelle * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelleparryslater * Website (Company): http://www.kairosmodernlearning.co.uk/ * Email: michelle@kairosmodernlearning.co.uk * Twitter: @MiPS1608

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People use podcasts to gain information and knowledge, about a huge variety of things, in their downtime. Organisations and institutions have been slow to leverage this powerful source of potential to date, but things are changing fast. John talks to Adam Lacey, co-founder of Assemble You, an 'audio-first' provider of learning content. How different are learning podcasts from ordinary podcasts? And how easily – or otherwise – does audio learning sits alongside other forms of digital content within a learner journey? * 0:00 - Intro * 2:58 - Differences between The Learning Hack and Learning Podcasts * 6:23 - How Adam got into learning podcasts * 8:30 - Podcast Access * 14:02 - Attention and Engagement * 26:34 - Any theorists that influence his podcasts? * 36:59 - Three tips for starting learning podcasts

Links * The York University / BBC study mentioned in this episode: https://doi.org/10.3389/fpsyg.2022.1074320 * Assemble You's research report: https://www.assembleyou.com/audio-report-2023

Follow Adam

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Website: https://www.assembleyou.com/
Email: adam@assembleyou.com
Podcast: https://www.assembleyou.com/podcast

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At the Learning Technologies France show in Paris this February, John talked to two of the industry's leading commentators, who both released significant pieces of research at the show. The L&D Global Sentiment Survey, run by Donald H Taylor, takes the pulse of the L&D community world-wide. The one-minute online poll asks L&D professionals internationally what they think will be hot in the following year. The Fosway 9-Grid™ report for Learning Systems plots the relative position of solutions and providers, predominantly within the UK and European market. Different solutions can be compared based on their Performance, Potential, Market Presence, Total Cost of Ownership and Future Trajectories across the market. Between them, these two surveys give a picture of where Learntech systems are in the post-pandemic world, and what is firing the expectations and imaginations of the learning community. * 00:00 Intro * 02:15 Don Taylor: What's changed since last year? * 05:23 Is it unusual for a 'macro' issue like skills to dominate the survey? * 07:21 AI * 13:22 Metaverse * 18:45 VR * 21:07 Leading trends in the US * 24:15 Is this a return to the pre-pandemic world? * 26:45 David Wilson: The new 9-Grid for learning * 28:05 Any surprises in the changes compared to last year? * 33:43 'Ecosystemness' * 42:40 Learning Systems market development

Follow Donald H. Taylor * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/donaldhtaylor * Website: https://donaldhtaylor.co.uk/insight/gss2023-results/ * Twitter: @DonaldHTaylor

Follow David Wilson

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dwil23
Fosway website: https://www.fosway.com/
Twitter: @dwil23
Email: david.wilson@fosway.com

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A passion for learning brought Dinye Hernada, she says, from a muddy school field in Indonesia to the boardrooms of Germany's top companies. With a double masters in international management, she began her working life supporting digital transformation. Realizing, however, that investing in people often had a bigger and more sustainable impact, she switched to L&D. Dinye is now Senior Learning and Development Manager at HeyJobs. John talks to her about her career path to date, the challenges she has overcome, and what the future holds for her profession. * 0:00 - Intro * 3:21 - How Dinye got into the learning profession * 5:15 - Dinye's learning career 7:11 - 30 under 30 * 10:08 - Progressing in business despite prejudices * 13:11 - Where did the older generation of learn-tech go wrong? * 21:24 - Dinye's take on the L&D profession * 30:37 - AI taking over decision making * 39:19 - Where to follow Dinye's future endeavours

Follow Dinye * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dinyehernanda * Website (personal): https://www.dinyehernanda.com/ * Email: dshernanda@gmail.com

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Download the white paper from Learning Pool written by Lindsey Coode – Skills are your Organization’s Superpower https://learningpool.com/skills-are-your-organizations-superpower/

Ethical Angel is a company that brings together learners in need of development opportunities with charities and good causes in need of the practical skills they are developing. John talks to the company's founder and CEO, Alexander Fahie, a young entrepreneur with a background in investment management. Alexander explains how he had the idea of bringing these two communities togther, how the collaboration works, and the results Ethical Angel is achieving for charitable causes though giving learners in organizations opportunities to try out the skills they are learning in real world situations. * 0:00 - Intro * 3:24 - Ethical Angel * 5:54 - What do the causes get out of it? * 11:40 - Cooperates and Employee's side * 14:17 - The learning design * 20:29 - How the solution facilitates * 28:45 - Examples of working in practice * 33:10 - What's an efficient business model? * 39:03 - How can people get involved?

Follow Alexander * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexander-fahie * Twitter: @ethicalangels * Website: https://www.ethicalangel.com/ * Email: alexander@ethicalangel.com

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Leadership learning is perhaps the most prestitigious and well-funded of training staples. In a changing world, it has become democratized in recent years, and now embraces a more progressive (some would say liberal) agenda. Nevertheless it faces criticism from academics in highly respected institutions, who question its value. In this wide-ranging discussion about the current state of leadership learning, John talks to Gustaf Nordbäck, CEO of Headspring Executive Development, a joint venture between the Financial Times and IE Business School. Under Gustaf’s direction Headspring has become a top provider of leadership solutions for clients around the world. How does he answer leadership's critics – and what is the future for leadership learning, in a world where decision-making becomes increasingly delegated to AI? NB: We apologise for the crackles on John's mic during the interview, and hope these technical shortcomings do not detract too badly from your enjoyment. * 0:00 - Intro. * 3:13 - Leading Headspring * 9:16 - Vision for leadership in the 21st Century * 17:27 - How diverse is Leadership Learning? * 24:35 - Differences in leadership styles * 28:19 - Answering critics * 35:47 - Digital Technology in course delivery * 40:23 - AI in Leadership

Follow Gustaf: * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gustaf-nordback Headspring * Website: https://www.headspringexecutive.com/ * Email: gnordback@gmail.com

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Download the white paper from Learning Pool written by John Helmer – The Spacing Effect: Harnessing the Power of Spaced Practice for Learning That Sticks https://learningpool.com/spacing-effect-harnessing-power-of-spaced-practice/

Stephen Downes is a prominent speaker and writer in the field of educational technology and learning, known for his work on open educational resources, digital learning, and the development of the MOOC (massive open online course). He's currently a researcher at the Ontario Institute for Studies in Education at the University of Toronto. Downes sees three current technologies as being critical for the development of online education; metaverse, blockchain and AI. But rather than making airy pronouncements in clickbait blog posts about this techno-troika, he has thought hard about how they operate together, creating a possible future for online education. But in this new distributed, learner-driven world, will we still need universities? * 0:00 - Intro * 3:53 - The MOOCs of today * 8:04 - Physical state of the brain * 13:28 - The Metaverse * 32:32 - Blockchain * 38:57 - Artificial Intelligence * 56:02 - What the university looks like in the future?

YouTube talks by Stephen mentioned in the discussion.

https://youtu.be/iGi4DDCuzRw
https://youtu.be/zCojHtC1aCw

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Website (Personal): https://www.downes.ca/
Blog: http://halfanhour.blogspot.com/
Website (personal): http://leftish.media/
Email: stephen@downes.ca

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'We are on a highway to climate hell with our foot still on the accelerator' (António Guterres, United Nations Secretary General speaking at COP 27). Successive COPs have revealed a lack of will among the world's governments to make commitments that they'll actually stick by. So increasingly, people who aren't in government feel it’s down to them to do something. Every institution and organization of any size, it seems, has an environmental policy, and it falls to HR, L&D and educators of all stripes to communicate these policies. Learning professionals are therefore heavily involved in the response to the climate emergency. In this episode, John discusses with a distinguished climate scientist exactly where we are with controlling climate change and how best learning professionals can contribute. Robert Nicholls is Professor and Director of the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research, based at the University of East Anglia. He has contributed extensively to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (the IPCC). His particular focus is the implications of sea-level rise, especially on coastal areas. He has published over 200 peer-reviewed papers and is the co-editor of six books.     * 0:00 - Intro

3:18 - The state of climate change
9:55 - Warming in coastal areas
14:02 - Effect of the energy crisis
23:50 - Confidence in engineering solutions
28:59 - Learning Departments' response
32:14 - Impact of grassroots activities
34:31 - What's improving?

Follow Professor Robert Nicholls * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-nicholls-2a97706 * Website (Personal): https://www.southampton.ac.uk/engineering/about/staff/rjn.page * Website (Tyndall Centre): https://tyndall.ac.uk/people/robert-nicholls/ * Email: robert.nicholls@uea.ac.uk

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Download the white paper from Learning Pool written by John Helmer – The Spacing Effect: Harnessing the Power of Spaced Practice for Learning That Sticks https://learningpool.com/spacing-effect-harnessing-power-of-spaced-practice/

'We are on a highway to climate hell with our foot still on the accelerator' (António Guterres, United Nations Secretary General speaking at COP 27). Successive COPs have revealed a lack of will among the world's governments to make commitments that they'll actually stick by. So increasingly, people who aren't in government feel it’s down to them to do something. Every institution and organization of any size, it seems, has an environmental policy, and it falls to HR, L&D and educators of all stripes to communicate these policies. Learning professionals are therefore heavily involved in the response to the climate emergency. In this episode, John discusses with a distinguished climate scientist exactly where we are with controlling climate change and how best learning professionals can contribute. Robert Nicholls is Professor and Director of the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research, based at the University of East Anglia. He has contributed extensively to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (the IPCC). His particular focus is the implications of sea-level rise, especially on coastal areas. He has published over 200 peer-reviewed papers and is the co-editor of six books.     * 0:00 - Intro

3:18 - The state of climate change
9:55 - Warming in coastal areas
14:02 - Effect of the energy crisis
23:50 - Confidence in engineering solutions
28:59 - Learning Departments' response
32:14 - Impact of grassroots activities
34:31 - What's improving?

Follow Professor Robert Nicholls * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-nicholls-2a97706 * Website (Personal): https://www.southampton.ac.uk/engineering/about/staff/rjn.page * Website (Tyndall Centre): https://tyndall.ac.uk/people/robert-nicholls/ * Email: robert.nicholls@uea.ac.uk

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Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/
Download the white paper from Learning Pool written by John Helmer – The Spacing Effect: Harnessing the Power of Spaced Practice for Learning That Sticks https://learningpool.com/spacing-effect-harnessing-power-of-spaced-practice/

  Empathy is a big word in learning. We want to have more of it, so learning professionals are increasingly charged with helping to promote and somehow inculcate it in their learners. But the efficacy of programmes designed to do that thing has been highly questionable. In this episode we look in depth at an innovative programme designed by Make Real that has pioneered a way of increasing empathy. The programme has shown surprising results, and not just by the (often limited) standards by which training programmes are normally judged. Make Real collaborated with Empathy and VR researcher, Lynda Joy Gerry, to carry out a scientific evaluation of the programme. John talks to Lynda and Sophie Costin, of Make Real about the programme, and its implications for the future of learning.     * 02:00 Intro

03:36 Setting up the programme
08:38 More detail about the learning programme
10:18 Why not do the programme over headsets?
11:32 Experiment description
16:34 What were the results?
23:26 Scientific analysis of the results
24:12 Why were these results surprising?
31:33 Implications for future research

The programme * https://makereal.co.uk/turning-your-learners-into-activists/ (download a summary, the full academic paper, and watch a talk that Lynda and Sophie did at Learning Technologies about the research).

Follow Sophie * Twitter: @MakeRealLtd * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sophie-costin-609a5935 * Website: https://makereal.co.uk/

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Twitter: @VirtualAlterity
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lyndajoygerry
Website: http://www.lyndajoygerry.com/
Blog: http://www.whatisexperience.com/

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Learning Hack is on a mid-season break but here's another chance to hear one our most downloaded episodes. John talks to Dr. Jane Bozarth, Director of Research at The Learning Guild, about how the rise of digital technology is changing expectations about the sort of skills and qualifications a learning professional should have in the 21st Century – and about her own, long career in learning. That career includes numerous books, work as a columnist for Learning Solutions Magazine, and a long-standing position as E-Learning Co-ordinator for the US state of North Carolina. More than all that, Jane has always been a fount of no-nonsense, practical advice for learning professionals, and there's planty on display in this interview. * 00:00 Intro * 02:54 Role at the Learning Guild * 06:07 The Guild Masters’ view on future of learning * 11:36 Proliferation of tools raises L&D skills issues * 16:46 How educated is L&D? * 20:56 Is learning theory important to learning professionals? * 25:25 Where is L&D with the pandemic right now? * 28:55 The widening L&D skillset * 33:28 Is L&D a buying function? * 37:43 What has been her career journey in learning?

 Mentioned in the discussion * The Johari Window: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johari\_window

Report: Guild Masters on The Future of Learning: https://www.learningguild.com/insights/266/guild-masters-on-the-future-of-learning/?from=home
Report: Degrees for L&D Professionals: What, Why, and Worth? https://www.learningguild.com/insights/263/degrees-for-ld-professionals-what-why-and-worth/?from=content&mode=filter&source=insights
Many other reports by Dr. Jane Bozarth can be found on the Learning Guild website: https://www.learningguild.com/

Contact Dr. Jane

Twitter: @JaneBozarth
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/janebozarth
Website/Blog: http://bozarthzone.blogspot.com/

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Learning Hack is on a mid-season break but here's another chance to hear one our most downloaded episodes. John talks to Dr. Jane Bozarth, Director of Research at The Learning Guild, about how the rise of digital technology is changing expectations about the sort of skills and qualifications a learning professional should have in the 21st Century – and about her own, long career in learning. That career includes numerous books, work as a columnist for Learning Solutions Magazine, and a long-standing position as E-Learning Co-ordinator for the US state of North Carolina. More than all that, Jane has always been a fount of no-nonsense, practical advice for learning professionals, and there's planty on display in this interview. * 00:00 Intro * 02:54 Role at the Learning Guild * 06:07 The Guild Masters’ view on future of learning * 11:36 Proliferation of tools raises L&D skills issues * 16:46 How educated is L&D? * 20:56 Is learning theory important to learning professionals? * 25:25 Where is L&D with the pandemic right now? * 28:55 The widening L&D skillset * 33:28 Is L&D a buying function? * 37:43 What has been her career journey in learning?

 Mentioned in the discussion * The Johari Window: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johari\_window

Report: Guild Masters on The Future of Learning: https://www.learningguild.com/insights/266/guild-masters-on-the-future-of-learning/?from=home
Report: Degrees for L&D Professionals: What, Why, and Worth? https://www.learningguild.com/insights/263/degrees-for-ld-professionals-what-why-and-worth/?from=content&mode=filter&source=insights
Many other reports by Dr. Jane Bozarth can be found on the Learning Guild website: https://www.learningguild.com/

Contact Dr. Jane

Twitter: @JaneBozarth
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/janebozarth
Website/Blog: http://bozarthzone.blogspot.com/

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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/
Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

New research says that while workflow learning is thought to be the most effective way of learning by employees, neither L&D or the learners themselves have the time to implement it. What is going on here? To find out, John talked to David James, whose company sponsored the research. David has worked in People Development for more than 20 years, most notably as Director of Talent, Learning & OD for The Walt Disney Company across EMEA. He is now Chief Learning Officer for 360 Learning, working with clients to develop and implement their digital learning strategies. David also hosts the Learning & Development podcast.     * 0:00 - Intro

2:54 - Learning in the flow of work
5:24 - David's definition of learning
13:14 - Stand out findings from the report
18:36 - Interpreting the time problem
33:50 - Recommendations for action
37:18 - David's background in learning

The Report: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidjameslinkedin/overlay/1495204428082/single-media-viewer Follow David * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidjameslinkedin * Website: https://davidinlearning.com/ * Twitter: @DavidInLearning

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New research says that while workflow learning is thought to be the most effective way of learning by employees, neither L&D or the learners themselves have the time to implement it. What is going on here? To find out, John talked to David James, whose company sponsored the research. David has worked in People Development for more than 20 years, most notably as Director of Talent, Learning & OD for The Walt Disney Company across EMEA. He is now Chief Learning Officer for 360 Learning, working with clients to develop and implement their digital learning strategies. David also hosts the Learning & Development podcast.     * 0:00 - Intro

2:54 - Learning in the flow of work
5:24 - David's definition of learning
13:14 - Stand out findings from the report
18:36 - Interpreting the time problem
33:50 - Recommendations for action
37:18 - David's background in learning

The Report: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidjameslinkedin/overlay/1495204428082/single-media-viewer Follow David * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidjameslinkedin * Website: https://davidinlearning.com/ * Twitter: @DavidInLearning

Contact John Helmer

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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/
Website: https://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

Download the white paper from Learning Pool written by John Helmer – The Spacing Effect: Harnessing the Power of Spaced Practice for Learning That Sticks https://learningpool.com/spacing-effect-harnessing-power-of-spaced-practice/

Children often ask challenging questions, but according to John's guest this time, we should see these as valuable opportunities for learning. Dr Rebecca Rolland is a speech pathologist and education lecturer whose recently published book, “The Art of Talking with Children”, gives parents and educators practical strategies for holding what she calls 'rich 'conversations' which she sees as central to effective parenting and education. John discusses these strategies with Rebecca, and explores how applicable these techniques might be to older students and the field of workplace learning.     * 00:00 Intro

03:09 'Rich' conversation
08:34 How do you stop it feeling awkward?
11:40 What part do rich conversations play in learning?
13:31 What are her theoretical underpinnings?
22:12 Is there adequate support for difference?
29:56 Does elearning support good conversations?
35:54 What advice does she give to businesses about employee needs?

Follow Rebecca * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rebecca-rolland-b0a95bb * Website: http://www.rebeccarolland.com/ * Blog: http://eepurl.com/hQnyxz * Twitter: @rolland_rg * The Book: https://www.harpercollins.com/products/the-art-of-talking-with-children-rebecca-rolland

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Website: https://johnhelmerconsulting.com/
Download the white paper from Learning Pool written by John Helmer – The Spacing Effect: Harnessing the Power of Spaced Practice for Learning That Sticks https://learningpool.com/spacing-effect-harnessing-power-of-spaced-practice/

Children often ask challenging questions, but according to John's guest this time, we should see these as valuable opportunities for learning. Dr Rebecca Rolland is a speech pathologist and education lecturer whose recently published book, “The Art of Talking with Children”, gives parents and educators practical strategies for holding what she calls 'rich 'conversations' which she sees as central to effective parenting and education. John discusses these strategies with Rebecca, and explores how applicable these techniques might be to older students and the field of workplace learning.     * 00:00 Intro

03:09 'Rich' conversation
08:34 How do you stop it feeling awkward?
11:40 What part do rich conversations play in learning?
13:31 What are her theoretical underpinnings?
22:12 Is there adequate support for difference?
29:56 Does elearning support good conversations?
35:54 What advice does she give to businesses about employee needs?

Follow Rebecca * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rebecca-rolland-b0a95bb * Website: http://www.rebeccarolland.com/ * Blog: http://eepurl.com/hQnyxz * Twitter: @rolland_rg * The Book: https://www.harpercollins.com/products/the-art-of-talking-with-children-rebecca-rolland

Contact John Helmer

Email: john@learninghackpodcast.com
Twitter: @johnhelmer
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/
Website: https://johnhelmerconsulting.com/
Download the white paper from Learning Pool written by John Helmer – The Spacing Effect: Harnessing the Power of Spaced Practice for Learning That Sticks https://learningpool.com/spacing-effect-harnessing-power-of-spaced-practice/

Adaptive learning has been bubbling under for a while in learning technologies, but it’s never quite broken through. Now that the technology to implement it, particularly AI, is maturing, and both investment and adoption are on the increase, is it finally about to go mainstream? John talks to Andy Wooler, Senior VP, Product Management at Area9 Lyceum, about about what adaptive has to offer, and also about the personal journey that has led to his current position. Andy has had a long and interesting career in elearning, on both on practitioner and vendor sides of the fence, giving him a unique perspective on the development of learning technologies.     * 0:00 - Intro

3:23 - Products at Area9 Lyceum
8:38 - How adaptive is this system?
15:41 - What blockers are there to overcome?
20:42 - Is Adaptive swimming against the tide of the learning market?
33:51 - 'We all learn together', not in isolation
47:31 - Where to follow Andy's activities

Follow Andy * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andywooler * Website: http://www.andywooler.com/ * Blog: http://www.andywooler.info/wordpress * Twitter: @awooler

Contact John Helmer

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Website: https://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

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Dr. Nigel Paine is co-presenter of Learning Now TV and From Scratch Podcast (with Martin Couzins) and has been involved in corporate learning for over 20 years. Among many career highlights he was head of the BBC's learning and development operation, and for 12 years Advisory Board Member for the University of Pennsylvania's CLO Doctoral Program. T his conversation explores his past career but also the insights to which that lifetime of experience has given rise. He has interesting things to say about L&D's interactions with the business, and good advice for learning professionals. * 0:00 - Intro * 3:27 - Nigel's beginnings in learning * 13:05 - People development at the BBC * 22:09 - Why is L&D so inward looking? * 24:57 - Has it become that way? * 29:08 - Individual vs organizational learning * 33:44 - 'More learning is not the primary input' * 43:55 - Where to follow Nigel's work * 46:29 - Outro

 Follow Nigel * LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/nigelpaine

Website: https://www.nigelpaine.com/
Blog: https://www.nigelpaine.com/blog/
Twitter: @ebase

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Website: https://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

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Dr. Nigel Paine is co-presenter of Learning Now TV and From Scratch Podcast (with Martin Couzins) and has been involved in corporate learning for over 20 years. Among many career highlights he was head of the BBC's learning and development operation, and for 12 years Advisory Board Member for the University of Pennsylvania's CLO Doctoral Program. T his conversation explores his past career but also the insights to which that lifetime of experience has given rise. He has interesting things to say about L&D's interactions with the business, and good advice for learning professionals. * 0:00 - Intro * 3:27 - Nigel's beginnings in learning * 13:05 - People development at the BBC * 22:09 - Why is L&D so inward looking? * 24:57 - Has it become that way? * 29:08 - Individual vs organizational learning * 33:44 - 'More learning is not the primary input' * 43:55 - Where to follow Nigel's work * 46:29 - Outro

 Follow Nigel * LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/nigelpaine

Website: https://www.nigelpaine.com/
Blog: https://www.nigelpaine.com/blog/
Twitter: @ebase

Contact John Helmer

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Twitter: @johnhelmer
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Website: https://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

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John talks to Stefaan van Hooydonk, Founder of the Global Curiosity Institute. Stefaan has lived, worked and studied all over the world, in a learning career spanning three decades. He has held numerous leadership roles in large companies. As Chief Learning Officer at Cognizant he was in charge of L&D for 300,000 people.  This June he published The Curiosity Manifesto: How Curiosity Helps Individuals and Workplaces Thrive. Curiosity, he believes, is the key to an organization's success in the 20th Century. So what is L&D's role in making an organization, and its employees, more curious?     * 03:35 Being CLO to 300k Learners

07:44 3 Tips for talking to the business
13:07 How does he define curiosity?
23:20 Are algorithms bad for curiosity?
33:36 Is curiosity rationed?
41:06 How can you make a company curious?
48:46 Where to find out more ...

LInks * HBR on Curiosity: https://hbr.org/2018/09/the-business-case-for-curiosity * The Global Curiosity Institute: https://www.globalcuriosityinstitute.com/ * Stefaan's book: The Workplace Curiosity Manifesto: https://www.globalcuriosityinstitute.com/shop

Contact Stefaan * LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/stefaanvanhooydonk * Twitter: @stefaanvanhooyd

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This time the feed is given over to an episode from one of our favourite podcasts, The Death of E-learning. In this episode, the team talk to their colleague at Learning Pool, Paul Stoner, about an article he wrote describing his struggles with Dyslexia, and how learning to code transformed a perceived 'disability' into a positive advantage at work. Paul's article: https://dev.to/learninglocker/programming-as-a-dyslexic-29mh?fbclid=IwAR1GdxAXfP2D6-QeB3aOORzDZw8UEEC7vPvxqSPOLZGVlXL1RMsSJ25MhJE Contact John Helmer * Email: john@learninghackpodcast.com * Twitter: @johnhelmer * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ * Website: https://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

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In a world where content about almost anything you may need to learn is readily available online, what should be the role of organisational L&D? Probably not its present one, which is all too often almost exclusively concerned with the centralized provision and curation of content for the organisation's learners – says Serena Gonsalves Fersch FLPI.  Serena is Head of Talent for the SoftwareONE Academy, but also a doctoral candidate, researching the future of learning and the L&D function in technology accelerating organisations. In this final episode of the current season, she talks to John about some compelling insights her research is turning up about the future of the L&D function.     * 0:00 - Intro

3:09 - Software One
5:20 - Serena's Doctorate Thesis
8:36 - Mistakes made when selecting vendors
15:04 - Advice for Vendor Selection
20:42 - L&D in tech start-ups and hypergrowth
30:40 - Business Applicability
38:38 - Advice for fast growing companies

Follow Serena: * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/serena-gonsalves-fersch-flpi-a23589 * Twitter: @SerenaGFersch * SoftwareONE Academy website: https://www.softwareone.com/en/now/softwareone-academy

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With job vacancies at record levels, wages on the rise after having been stalled for many years and the so-called great resignation underway, workers face a labour market changed beyond recognition by the pandemic and other forces. The workplace learning industry in particular is a volatile place, with digital learning having taken a big step forward during the pandemic.  John talks to Nick Jones, co-founder of Blue Eskimo, a specialist recruiter for the sector. The balance of power between employers and workers has definitely shifted with all these changes – but to what extent is this a temporary blip, or a more permanent transformation of the landscape?     * 2:50 - Blue Eskimo

4:12 - Hot Take on the 'Great Resignation'
9:50 - Current state of the Labour market
11:59 - Adjusting to 'Home-Based Jobs'
18:48 - Importance of digital skills in L&D
22:49 - Employer/Employee Power Balance
26:07 - Advice for developing a career in learning
34:19 - Advice for attracting the best staff

Contact Nick: * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickjonesblueeskimo * Twitter: @BlueEskimoJobs * Website: http://www.blueeskimo.com/

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In this episode, John talks to Tracy Capaldi Drewett, Executive Director at International Centre for Parliamentary Studies, about a programme ICPS launched in February 2022 to train Georgian diplomats. The programme launch co-incided with the outbreak of war in Ukraine, providing another complication compounding difficulties associated with Covid. Despite it all, the programme has been a success, and John also hears how ICPS, like many other organizations, has pivoted during the pandemic towards more digital delivery.     * 0:00 - Intro 3:20 -Tracy's role at his trading organisation

7:22 - The learning project in Georgia
11:53 - Who are the learners?
15:12 - What was the mix of the solution?
22:52 - What challenges did he overcome?
25:26 - Success of the project to be measured
28:04 - What does the programme say about leadership?
31:58 - The future of the programme
35:05 - Tracy's personal background

About the programme: https://agenda.ge/en/news/2022/2105 Contact Tracy: * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tracy-capaldi-drewett-86533015 * Twitter: @tracycapaldidre * ICPS Website: https://parlicentre.org/

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The return of workers to offices in the UK had stalled for the first time since restrictions were lifted at the start of the year, and may well have plateaued. Hybrid working is with us, it seems, for the foreseeable future.

Laura Lee-Gibbs, Founder of Learn Fox, returns to the podcast to discuss the challenges this is throwing up for learning professionals. Having got through the upheavals of the pandemic, they now have to adjust to a world where hybrid learning is business as usual.

03:17 Challenges of the Hybrid Workflow
11:11 Hybrid affecting the technology required for learning
19:47 How's the vendor market coped with the hybrid changes?
27:20 Changes in technology adaptability
33:28 Is hybrid a priority issue for L&D?
37:02 Top tips for hybrid tech systems
41:16 Where to find out more

The Learn Fox Diagnostic tool: https://www.learnfox.co.uk/diagnostic-tool

Contact Laura

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/digitallearningconsultant
Website: https://www.learnfox.co.uk/
Clinic: https://www.learnfox.co.uk/clinic

Contact John Helmer

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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/
Website: https://johnhelmerconsulting.com/
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With more than 9,000 attendees from 50 different countries, 200 seminars and 200 exhibitors, Learning Technologies is Europe's leading showcase of organisational learning and the technology used to support learning at work. A major conference runs alongside the exhibition, featuring talks from more than 90 of the learning industry's foremost speakers, thinkers, visionaries, and practitioners. This special edition of the podcast was mostly recorded at the show, and features interviews with Paul Matthews of People Alchemy and Caroline Ford of Novartis, as well as 'Hot Takes' on the current state of the industry from Donald Taylor, Paul McElvaney, Mirjam Neelen, Laura Overton & Bob Mosher. * 02:26 Hot Takes: Don Taylor, Laura Overton, Mirjam Neelen, Bob Mosher, Paul McElvaney * 12:16 Event themes * 13:20 Interview 1 Paul Matthews * 27:36 Ads * 29:14 Interview 2 Caroline Ford * 44:40 Outro and tribute to John Harris

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This episode will be highly relatable to anyone who works in L&D within organizations, but is of more general interest too. Now semi-retired, Performance Analyst and Instructional Architect Guy W. Wallace proves more than happy to spill the beans about the wiliness that is often need to keep programmes on track amidst the sturm und drang of corporate politics and misapprehensions about learning in the C-suite.  Guy has been designing Enterprise Learning since 1979, has been a partner/owner at 3 consulting firms, and has served more than 80 consulting clients, primarily in the Fortune 500. In 2010 he received the Honorary Life Member Award from the International Society for Performance Improvement.     * 0:00 - Intro

2:41 - Guy's career/academic history
17:34 - First Exposure to Human Performance Technology (HPT) 27:06 - Influences in Evidence-Based Performance Improvement
34:56 - Current focuses for learning
38:00 - Is anything in progress?
39:56 - Misused Performance Improvement Terms
50:02 - Parting words of wisdom

Follow Guy: * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/guywwallace * Twitter: @guywwallace * Website: http://www.eppic.biz/

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Susi Miller is Founder and Director of eLaHub Ltd, the only provider of eLearning accessibility specialised services in the L&D industry. The company provides training, auditing services and consultancy on every aspect of eLearning accessibility for clients including Amazon, Thomson Reuters, London Stock Exchange Group, and Govt of Canada. In this episode, John talks to Susi about the prevalence of disabilities in working populations, and how to meet all access requirements in production of learning content. And will the metaverse be more or less accessible than what went before? Recent developments in online gaming may hold the answer.     * 0:00 - Intro

4:50 - Definition of Disability
12:25 - Access Needs
20:55 - Accessibility for E-learning
29:04 - Will the metaverse be accessible?
43:00 - Tips for successful digital learning

A special discount offer on Susi's book, Designing Accessible Learning Content – 20% discount code AHR20 and free ebook if you order directly from the publisher’s site using this link: https://www.koganpage.com/product/designing-accessible-learning-content-9781789668056 Other useful links: * Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Quick Reference: https://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG21/quickref/ * Last of Us Part II: Is this the most accessible game ever? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-53093613#:~:text=The%20game%20has%20already%20been,of%20customisation%20and%20fine%2Dtuning. * Making the Metaverse Accessible Is Better for Everyone: https://www.lifewire.com/making-the-metaverse-accessible-is-better-for-everyone-5218160#:~:text=Key%20Takeaways,could%20help%20those%20with%20disabilities.

Follow Susi:

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/susimiller1
Twitter: @elahub1
Website: http://www.elahub.net/

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Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

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John talks to Julian Stodd, Captain of Sea Salt Learning, a strategic consultancy that partners on the design and delivery of global solutions around leadership, culture, learning transformation and change.

Julian has an academic background in communication theory, psychology and neurophysiology, learning design, educational psychology and philosophy. He has written 14 books, including most recently, 'The Humble Leader', released in March 2022.

00.00 Intro
02:56 'The Humble Leader'
04:34 Definition of The Social Age
07:50 Relationships between workers and their organizations
16:34 Is he an idealist?
24:31 Important areas for learning professionals
31:13 Julian's origin story
34:29 His work with organizations
43:32 Myth & storytelling
47:29 Where to follow Julian's thought

Follow Julian:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/julian-stodd-6774377
Twitter: @julianstodd

Julian's websites:

http://www.julianstodd.wordpress.com/ (Blog)
http://www.seasaltlearning.co.uk/ (Company Website)
https://dailyquestions.substack.com/welcome (Social Leadership Daily)

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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/
Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

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Federico Presicci is Head of Sales Training & Enablement at GDS group, an accredited personal coach (ACC) and a certified Meditation Teacher. He won the Gold Award in the Rising Stars category at the 2022 UK Learning Awards. Impressive achievements for any 27 year-old – but Federico came to the UK only five years ago. At the time he knew nobody here, and didn’t speak English.  John, who was one of the judges of the Rising Stars award that Federico won, listens to his story, and hears his aspirations for the future.     * 0:00 - Intro 2:27 - Learning Awards win

5:08 - Life when arriving in the U.K.
9:48 - How his career kickstarted in the U.K.
17:27 - Making the move from Sales to Learning
21:54 - Federico's work in Onboarding
32:00 - The submission's evaluation
41:42 - How Covid shaped his learning practice
49:16 - Hopes and Goals

Follow Federico: * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/federico-presicci/ * Twitter: @FedPresicci

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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/
Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

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John's guest this time is Donald H. Taylor, Chair of the Learning Technologies Conference, of the Learning and Skills group, of the Learning and Performance Institute, Network Chair of Emerge Education, Editor of Inside Learning Technologies Magazine and a Non Executive Director of Filtered. He's also been called the James Bond of learning.  Each year since 2013, Donald has produced his L&D Global Sentiment Survey, which asks the question: ‘What will be hot in workplace L&D next year?’ John and Don discuss the results of the latest survey and what it shows about an industry transformed by the global pandemic.     * 0:00 - Intro 2:42 - The Global Sentiment Survey

4:29 - What's hot & what's not?
12:16 - Pandemic's effect on L&D
17:00 - What's going to be big in demand?
26:04 - Possible generalisations
34:19 - David's beginnings
39:27 - How people can access the report

Follow Donald: * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/donaldhtaylor/ * Twitter: @DonaldHTaylor * Website: https://donaldhtaylor.co.uk/

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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/
Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

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When a car accident brought an untimely end to Trish Uhl's athletic career, equestrian sport's loss became a massive gain for IT and learning technologies. Trish is founder and CEO of Owl's Ledge LLC, a firm that helps learning professionals improve their performance, drive business results, and produce organizational outcomes. She works with Global 500 and Fortune 500 clients on four continents. Describing herself as someone who, in words often attributed to hockey legend Wayne Gretzky, is always skating to where the puck is going rather than to where the puck currently is, she tells John about treating L&D like an engineering problem and what Web 3 has in store for learning and HR. * 0:00 – Intro

3:14 - Why Trish became a learning engineer
8:48 - L&D as a business partner
22:56 - NFTs within Web3 & learning
42:24 - Recruitment factors within these organizations
47:40 – Will L&D be outsourced?
49:47 – How to follow Trish’s thought

Follow Trish: * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/trishuhl/ * Twitter: @trishuhl

Websites:

owls-ledge.com/yaycake (Company Website)
nft.owls-ledge.com (#CryptoOwls NFT)
learningonblockchain.com/ (Learning on Blockchain)

Contact John Helmer

Twitter: @johnhelmer
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/
Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

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John talks to David Lockie, an entrepreneur and investor in leading-edge web technologies who is Co-chair of the British Interactive Media Association’s Blockchain Counsel and passionate about blockchain, open source software and crypto. Over the last two decades, the internet and the world wide web have had transformative effects on workplace learning. Now around the corner is Web 3, and everything’s about to change all over again. So what is Web 3, and will it be good news for those now forging careers in the learning profession – or bad?     * 0:00 - Intro

4:02 The BIMA Blockchain Council
6:56 What is Web 3.0?
18:11 - Implications for Learning
29:14 How ideal is this vision?
37:57 - DAOs
42:18 - Advice for L&D people
44:47 - Where to follow David's work

David's links on microcredentials and DAOs: * https://galaxy.eco/ * https://www.accredible.com/ * https://info.credly.com/ * https://www.pwc.co.uk/blockchain/smart-credentials.htm/ * Balaji Srinivasan: https://tim.blog/2021/11/15/balaji-srinivasan-2/ , https://tim.blog/2021/03/24/balaji-srinivasan/ * 1729: https://1729.com/

Follow David:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidlockie/
Twitter: @pragmaticweb
Website (includes a link to his Notion): https://www.divydovy.com/

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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/
Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

Download the new white paper from Learning Pool written by John Helmer & Ben Betts – Suite Dreams: The Past, Present and Future of Learning Systems https://learningpool.com/suite-dreams/

John talks to Stefaan van Hooydonk, Founder of the Global Curiosity Institute. Stefaan has lived, worked and studied all over the world, in a learning career spanning three decades. He has held numerous leadership roles in large companies. As Chief Learning Officer at Cognizant he was in charge of L&D for 300,000 people. Last June he published The Curiosity Manifesto: How Curiosity Helps Individuals and Workplaces Thrive.  Curiosity, he believes, is the key to an organization's success in the 20th Century. So what is L&D's role in making an organization, and its employees, more curious?  Timestamps     * 03:35 Being CLO to 300k Learners

07:44 3 Tips for talking to the business
13:07 How does he define curiosity?
23:20 Are algorithms bad for curiosity?
33:36 Is curiosity rationed?
41:06 How can you make a company curious?
48:46 Where to find out more ...

Links * HBR on Curiosity: https://hbr.org/2018/09/the-business-case-for-curiosity * The Global Curiosity Institute: https://www.globalcuriosityinstitute.com/ * Stefaan's book: The Workplace Curiosity Manifesto: https://www.globalcuriosityinstitute.com/shop

Contact Stefaan: * LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/stefaanvanhooydonk * Twitter: @stefaanvanhooyd

Contact John Helmer: * Twitter: @johnhelmer * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ * Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

Download the new white paper from Learning Pool written by John Helmer & Ben Betts – Suite Dreams: The Past, Present and Future of Learning Systems https://learningpool.com/suite-dreams/

Josh Bersin describes Cornerstone's new platform, Xplor, as a ‘skills-based, AI-powered platform designed as an LXP, talent mobility, career, and skills platform, [with] the potential to change the L&D landscape.' In this episode, last of the present season, John talks to Summer Rivers Salomonsen, VP Content Product at Cornerstone. Is this type of huge, all-inclusive system that brings together LXP, talent management system and skills really what organizations and learners need right now? * 0:00 – Intro * 3:41 – Summer’s role at Cornerstone * 6:18 – What does Xplor do? * 12:55 – The learning business and the talent business * 17:19 – Is this the right direction for the business? * 22:48 – The state of microlearning * 28:51 – Applying learning science to the system design * 34:53 – Summer’s hopes for the learning and talent business * 43:20 – How to follow Summer’s work

 Seasonal Competition Time! * What else are YOU doing when you listen to the Learning Hack podcast?

Tell us, attaching your photos and videos for proof, to kate@learninghackpodcast.com
Winner will be announced next season, and will bag a bottle of champagne!

Cornerstone Xplor http://www.csod.info/futureready Contact Summer * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/summer-salomonsen/ * Company website: https://www.cornerstoneondemand.com/

Contact John Helmer * Twitter: @johnhelmer * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ * Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

Download the new white paper from Learning Pool written by John Helmer & Ben Betts – Suite Dreams: The Past, Present and Future of Learning Systems https://learningpool.com/suite-dreams/

John is joined by Megan Torrance, Chief Energy Officer of Torrance Learning, a custom development company based in Michigan USA. With an MBA from Cornell and a consultancy background, Megan has a firm grasp of the business value of learning initiatives. But her two decades of experience in learning technologies also includes a strong bent towards using data for learning. She is strong advocate for xAPI, and organizes the 'xAPI Party'. How does she feel about the slow rate of adoption of xAPI among learning departments? * 0:00 – Intro * 2:09 – How she leads Torrance Learning * 6:03 – Normalising Data in L&D * 10:42 – Current state of xAPI * 15:17 – xAPI Examples * 20:43 – Learning as a process * 30:33 – Women in L&D * 39:42 – How to follow her activities

 The xAPI Party https://xapicohort.com/xapi-party/ Megan's work can be found at ATD: https://my.td.org/search?query=megan%20torrance and Learning Solutions https://learningsolutionsmag.com/author/megan-torrance Professional development workshops: http://www.torrancelearning.com/shop  Contact Megan * Twitter: @MMTorrance

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/megantorrance
Website: http://www.torrancelearning.com/

Contact John Helmer * Twitter: @johnhelmer * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ * Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

Download the new white paper from Learning Pool written by John Helmer & Ben Betts – Suite Dreams: The Past, Present and Future of Learning Systems https://learningpool.com/suite-dreams/ Don’t miss Cornerstone Convergence on November 16 and 17. With an incredible lineup of speakers focused on helping talent and learning leaders like you gain the tools to create a better experience for your people, you won’t want to miss this all-virtual, all-free event. Register today at https://www.cornerstoneconvergence.com/?utm_campaign=EMEA_UK_PROS_2021_Q4_10_EN_Convergence-2021&utm_medium=paid-social&utm_source=the-learning-hack&utm_content=registration

John Helmer talks to Craig Weiss, the straight-talking learntech analyst and consultant. Craig is CEO and Lead Analyst for The Craig Weiss Group, and the founder of FindAnLMS, a learning system search engine.  With the so-called 'Great Resignation' underway, skills issues are uppermost in many business leaders' minds: do learning systems have a part to play in helping organizations deal with the fallout? Craig has a view – and as with the other topics that John has crowdsourced from the community for him, he gives his answer with characteristic frankness.     * 02:47 Can vendor systems solve post-Covid skills issues?

12:25 The current state of buyer knowledge
20:54 How effective are Top 10 lists?
30:36 Are learning systems too general?
39:20 What has he seen recently that's hot?
53:28 Outro

Contact Craig Twitter: @diegoinstudio LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/craigweissinla Blog: http://www.elearninfo247.com Web site: https://www.craigweissgrp.com FindAnLMS: https://findanlms.com Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/ Download the new white paper from Learning Pool written by John Helmer & Ben Betts – Suite Dreams: The Past, Present and Future of Learning Systems https://learningpool.com/suite-dreams/ Don’t miss Cornerstone Convergence on November 16 and 17. With an incredible lineup of speakers focused on helping talent and learning leaders like you gain the tools to create a better experience for your people, you won’t want to miss this all-virtual, all-free event. Register today at CornerstoneConvergence.com. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.cornerstoneconvergence.com/?utm_campaign=EMEA_UK_PROS_2021_Q4_10_EN_Convergence-2021&utm_medium=paid-social&utm_source=the-learning-hack&utm_content=registration__;!!JqsUqw!k6p3zv4wtzy2qFWhTEbsdxfyQuQTXik6gEmmq2FRwOUkdahknnWmiAYQl1Q_lQ$

How is digital technology impacting the way people work, learn and think – and what upcoming technology trends should we look out for? In this episode, John talks to Ezri Carlebach, writer, lecturer, communications expert and imagineer, who has worked extensively in educational and workplace learning contexts. Why is imagination so important to learning – and in what ways has the pandemic changed the way we relate to technology?     2:31 - What is 'imagineering'? 5:54 - Ezri's career journey 13:22 - Digital anthropology 20:40 - Are we worrying about the right things? 25:12 - Imagination as a focus 42:35 - How covid has affected human/machine interaction 46:35 - Views on 'Hybrid Working'     The Royal Anthropological Institute: https://www.therai.org.uk/

Centre for Study of Humans and Machines at the Max Planck Institute in Berlin: https://www.mpib-berlin.mpg.de/chm

The Happy Writing Book, by Elise Valmorbida https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/57356168-the-happy-writing-book Contact Ezri Twitter: @ezriel LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ezrie/detail/contact-info/#:~:text=linkedin.com/in/ezrie Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/ Download the new white paper from Learning Pool written by John Helmer & Ben Betts – Suite Dreams: The Past, Present and Future of Learning Systems https://learningpool.com/suite-dreams/ Don’t miss Cornerstone Convergence on November 16 and 17. With an incredible lineup of speakers focused on helping talent and learning leaders like you gain the tools to create a better experience for your people, you won’t want to miss this all-virtual, all-free event. Register today at https://www.cornerstoneconvergence.com/?utm_campaign=EMEA_UK_PROS_2021_Q4_10_EN_Convergence-2021&utm_medium=paid-social&utm_source=the-learning-hack&utm_content=registration.

John talks to Tom Hickmore, award-winning Creative Director of video learning company Nice Media, about his newly released book Watch & Learn. The book aims to help learning professionals in designing, commissioning and producing effective video drama for learning.  Tom has also produced a popular series of videos drawing particular lessons from hit movies and TV series such as Game of Thrones, Breaking Bad and the Bond franchise. But can video dramas for learning paid for by organizations ever aspire to comparable levels emotional intensity?     ---------- 03:14 Who is Watch & Learn written for? 06:15 How can a learning video emulate movies & TV? 13:38 How adventurous are learning clients prepared to be? 18:02 Drama and storytelling 24:30 What formal constraints do learning videos have? 34:52 Do technicians and actors see corporate as just a meal ticket? 40:06 Is now a great moment for learning video? ----------     Tom's book: Watch & Learn: Designing, commissioning and producing effective video drama for learning.  https://www.amazon.co.uk/Watch-Learn-Designing-commissioning-producing/dp/1739930002/ref=tmm\_hrd\_swatch\_0?\_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr= Contact Tom Twitter: @TomHickmore LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomhickmore?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad\_flagship3\_profile\_view\_base\_contact\_details%3BNcva0yKPSzadWRV01aos5Q%3D%3D Nice Media: https://www.nicemedia.co.uk/ Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/ Download the new white paper from Learning Pool written by John Helmer & Ben Betts – Suite Dreams: The Past, Present and Future of Learning Systems https://learningpool.com/suite-dreams/

Watch & Learn: Designing, commissioning and producing effective video drama for learning.

This time John is talking to Laura Overton, an award-winning international speaker, author and facilitator, with multiple institutional fellowships. Laura is probably best known for helming Towards Maturity, the research and benchmarking organization, from its inception as a Government initiative, through independence and commercial success before it was bought out by Emerald Group in 2017. Does she think during her time there she really managed to bring about change in the practice of learning?  ----------     2:54 - What is ‘Emerging Stronger’? 11:30 - ‘Changemakers’ newsletter 16:43 - How did she get into learning? 24:28 - Towards Maturity: the legacy 31:02 - L&D skills and mindset 35:52 – Data in L&D 42:30 – How to get involved? ----------     Mentioned in the discussion: Trojan mice https://jarche.com/2012/10/on-trojan-mice/ Newsletter: #LearningChangemakers  https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/learningchangemakers-6768177569251520512/ Emerging Stronger https://emergentmasterclass.com/about/#meet Contact Laura Twitter: @lauraoverton LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/lauraoverton Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/ Download the new white paper from Learning Pool written by John Helmer & Ben Betts – Suite Dreams: The Past, Present and Future of Learning Systems https://learningpool.com/suite-dreams/

John talks to Dr. Jane Bozarth, Director of Research at The Learning Guild, about how the rise of digital technology is changing expectations about the sort of skills and qualifications a learning professional should have in the 21st Century – and about her own, long career in learning.  That career includes numerous books, work as a columnist for Learning Solutions Magazine, and a long-standing position as E-Learning Co-ordinator for the US state of North Carolina. More than all that, Jane has always been a fount of no-nonsense, practical advice for learning professionals, and there's plenty to be found in this interview.  ----------     03:34 - Role at the Learning Guild 06:17 - The Guild Masters’ view on future of learning 12:16 - Proliferation of tools raises L&D skills issues 17:26 - How educated is L&D? 22:04 - Is learning theory important to learning professionals? 26:32 - Where is L&D with the pandemic right now? 30:02 - The widening L&D skillset 34:36 - Is L&D a buying function? 38:54 - What has been her career journey in learning?     ---------- Mentioned in the discussion: The Johari Window: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johari\_window Report: Guild Masters on The Future of Learning:  https://www.learningguild.com/insights/266/guild-masters-on-the-future-of-learning/?from=home Report: Degrees for L&D Professionals: What, Why, and Worth?  https://www.learningguild.com/insights/263/degrees-for-ld-professionals-what-why-and-worth/?from=content&mode=filter&source=insights Many other reports by Dr. Jane Bozarth can be found on the Learning Guild website: https://www.learningguild.com/ Contact Dr. Jane Twitter: @JaneBozarth LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/janebozarth Website/Blog: http://bozarthzone.blogspot.com/ Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/ Download the new white paper from Learning Pool written by John Helmer & Ben Betts – Suite Dreams: The Past, Present and Future of Learning Systems https://learningpool.com/suite-dreams/

Another chance to hear the inaugural episode of Great Minds on Learning, which was originally aired back in March 2021 to considerable acclaim. In this series, Donald Clark – the internationally famous author, blogger and entrepreneur, joins John Helmer to discuss the history of thought and theorising about learning.

This particular episode is about The Cognitivists, a group of theorists who made a vital contribution to what we now know about the mechanics of memory and learning. ---------- 00:47 Why is memory such an important focus for the cognitivists? 02:27 Introducing the Cognitivists 04:07 Hermann Ebbinghaus (1850-1909) 13:49 George A. MIller (1920-2012) 19:25 Richard C. Atkinson (1929- ) & Richard Shiffrin (1942- ) 24:09 Alan Baddeley (1934- ) 28:49 Endel Tulving (1927- ) 37:57 John Sweller (1946- ) 47:04 Summing up: the Cognitivists and Behaviourism ---------- The Blog that started it all: http://donaldclarkplanb.blogspot.com/2020/08/100-learning-theorists-2500-years-of.html Ebbinhaus bit.ly/2VvoxkX Miller bit.ly/37OaB85 Atkinson & Shiffrin bit.ly/37SEKTK Baddeley bit.ly/37WfFHq Tulving bit.ly/2VmFKNw Sweller bit.ly/2I7Pt2t Contact Donald Twitter: @DonaldClark LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-clark-04553022/ Blog: http://donaldclarkplanb.blogspot.com/ Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/ Download the new white paper from Learning Pool written by John Helmer & Ben Betts – Suite Dreams: The Past, Present and Future of Learning Systems https://learningpool.com/suite-dreams/

Internationally respected author, blogger and learning expert, Donald Clark joins John Helmer of the Learning Hack podcast to discuss the history of thought and theorising about learning.  From the Greeks to the Geeks, they cover 2,500 years of thought and science on learning. The inspired, the enduring, the wacked-out weird and the just plain wrong, from Socrates to the present day.  Starting with a repeat of the popular pilot episode The Cognitivists on 30 August, the series proper kicks off on 13 September and runs fortnightly.  Here's Season One:  * The Behaviorists  * Instructionalists  * Practice  * Holists  * Online Educators  * The Enlightenment  Don't miss a single episode: subscribe now.

The Learning Hack is taking a seasonal break. In the meantime, here’s another chance to hear one of our most listened-to episodes.  John talks to Julie Dirksen, a leading expert in instructional design, digital learning and behaviour change. Is it a problem for learning professionals that even when they have supported learners in gaining the knowledge and skills they need to do things right, and to do the right thing, once back in the workplace they so often do the exact opposite?  The conversation dives deep into the mechanics of behaviour change, addressing the 'elephant and rider' problem in human psychology, and confronts the tricky ethical questions that effective use of behaviour change techniques inevitably brings up.  ----------     03:37 What does the ‘elephant and rider’ image mean in behaviour change? 12:26 The importance of feedback 16:48 Intent vs behaviour 18:00 Technology & behaviour change 24:28 The ethics of behaviour change 31:18 Is the ‘conspiracy of convenience’ a behaviour change problem? 39:03 Tips for overcoming resistance to being trained ---------- Links     Jonathan Haidt, responsible for the 'elephant and rider' metaphor: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan\_Haidt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio\_Damasio https://www.happinesshypothesis.com/  https://www.researchgate.net/publication/51070630\_The\_Behaviour\_Change\_Wheel\_a\_new\_method\_for\_characterising\_and\_designing\_behaviour\_change\_interventions http://www.behaviourchangewheel.com/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nudge\_(book)kk Julie's Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/search/top?q=design%20for%20how%20people%20learn Contact Julie Dirksen LinkedIn: https://wwwlinkedin.com/in/juliedirksen Twitter: @usablelearning Website: usablelearning.wordpress.com Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/ Download the new white paper from Learning Pool written by John Helmer & Ben Betts – Suite Dreams: The Past, Present and Future of Learning Systems https://learningpool.com/suite-dreams/

The Learning Hack is taking a break for the Summer. We’ll be back in September, but meanwhile, here’s our second most listened-to episode of all time, featuring an interview with Nick Shackleton-Jones. John talks to Nick about his book, 'How People Learn'. 01:22 About the book 04:04 Its ambitions 07:16 The affective context model 16:40 Instructional design 22:51 The learner experience 25:30 Learning in the flow of work 28:14 Are things getting better? 31:22 Business and emotion 33:12 Sentiment analysis and AI 37:46 Innovation

Audrey Watters' new book, Teaching Machines, tells the story of how two academics, Sidney Pressey in the 1920s and B.F. Skinner in the 1950s, attempted to develop and market mechanical devices for learning. John talks to Audrey about the book and explores the reasons why both of these pioneers of pre-computer learning technology, ultimately, failed.  In the book Audrey Watters, who describes herself as 'an education writer, an independent scholar, a serial dropout, a rabble-rouser, and ed-tech's Cassandra', also draws comparisons with today's technologists, and sees the pervasive influence of B.F. Skinner at work in their attempts to use personalization as a means of control.     00:00 - Intro 03:06 - B. F. Skinner and his teaching machine 08:30 - Sidney Pressey’s teaching machine, 1920s 18:38 - Did B.F. Skinner really raise his daughter in a box 21:50 - Why has personalization of education not happened? 28:06 - What technologists get wrong about education 39:03 - What has been her personal journey in learning?     The Book: Teaching Machines: The History of Personalized Learning https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/teaching-machines Follow Audrey Twitter: @audreywatters LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/audrey-watters-96135a145/ Website: http://audreywatters.com/ Blog: http://hackeducation.com/ Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/ Download the new white paper from Learning Pool written by John Helmer & Ben Betts – Suite Dreams: The Past, Present and Future of Learning Systems https://learningpool.com/suite-dreams/

John talks to Bob Mosher, champion of workflow learning and the Five Moments of L&D Need. Bob has been an active and influential leader in the learning and training industry for over 30 years and is renowned worldwide for his pioneering role in new approaches to learning. Based in South Carolina, he is CEO and Chief Learning Evangelist at Apply Synergies. Previously he was with Microsoft, as Director of Learning Strategy. Bob is also a Maisie Fellow.     00:00 - Intro 02:40 - What are the 5 moments of L&D need? 09:22 - What progress has he seen in the 20 years since the 5 moments were defined? 14:37 - Are vendors building the right tech for workflow learning? 20:55 - Why haven’t we seen EPS systems emerge as a discrete product category? 23:01 - How do we stop workflow learning being an interruption? 27:45 - Which learning theorists have shaped his ideas? 35:02 - Where can people follow his ideas? 37:27 - Next time on the Learning Hack …     Mentioned in the discussion: Gery, G. (1991). Electronic performance support systems: How and why to remake the workplace through the strategic application of technology. Tolland, MA: Gery Performance Press. Dr. Conrad Gottfredson: https://www.5momentsofneed.com/conrad-gottfredson.htm Dr. Alison Rosset: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Allison-Rossett Robert F. Mager https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert\_F.\_Mager Contact Bob Mosher Twitter: @bmosh LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bmosher/ Website: https://www.applysynergies.com/ Bob's podcast: https://performancematters.podbean.com/ Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/ Download the new white paper from Learning Pool written by John Helmer & Ben Betts – Suite Dreams: The Past, Present and Future of Learning Systems https://learningpool.com/suite-dreams/

This special edition of the podcast features interviews with two people who have each in their different ways played important roles in the effort to vaccinate the world and free us all from the menace of Covid-19.  Marc Howells is VP & Head of Global Talent & Learning at AstraZeneca, developers of the Oxford/AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine AZD1222, one of the leading weapons in the fightback against global pandemic.  Reda Sadki, President of The Geneva Learning Foundation, is an old friend of the podcast. He leads a Swiss non-profit that connects learning leaders to research, invent, and trial breakthrough approaches for new learning, talent and leadership, with a focus on immunization and other critical issues in global health.     03:43 - Marc’s role & priorities at AstraZeneca 04:34 - What has the last year been like for the team in AtraZeneca? 07:52 - What skills issues has this rapid rate of change given rise to? 14:02 - What’s driving your increase in learning during the pandemic? 17:10 - How much of the shift to digital in AstraZeneca will be long-lasting? 22:10 Hopes (& fears) for the future? 26:26 Reda Sadki interview starts 34:52 ACT-A and COVAX 39:21 Leadership and immunization 42:52 Are we learning fast enough to beat the virus?     Watch the unedited livestream of John's conversation with Reda Sadki here: https://youtu.be/s8fH9gyFMms Follow Marc Howells LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/marc-howells-3002598?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad\_flagship3\_profile\_view\_base\_contact\_details%3BiVuw%2BAmoQcSZG%2FZxhl80qw%3D%3D Follow Reda Twitter: @redasadki LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/redasadki?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad\_flagship3\_profile\_view\_base\_contact\_details%3BYIFVZmEfQxiPNGnbhBXmxg%3D%3D Geneva Learning Foundation website: https://www.learning.foundation/ Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/ Download the new white paper from Learning Pool written by John Helmer & Ben Betts – 'Data & learning: A new common-sense approach'  https://learningpool.com/data-learning-a-new-common-sense-approach/

Cognitive load theory tells us that we have to do our best to make things easier for learners. But Bjork says that 'necessary' (or 'desirable') difficulties are an essential part of the process. Should learning be easy or difficult? Is there a simple way to resolve this apparent contradiction – or is it a matter of trade-offs?  John talks to Stella Collins, one of the 'Brain Ladies' and also Co-founder and Chief Learning Officer of Stellar Labs, based in Belgium. With degrees in Psychology and Human Communication, she is an enthusiast for our growing knowledge of how the brain works. Starting with the issue of difficulty, the discussion ranges widely over the applicability (and otherwise) of brain science to how we can best support learners.     02:38 - Can psychology help us make things easier for learners? 09:25 - ‘Desirable difficulties’ 13:03 - How do you balance desirable difficulties and UX? 17:26 - What drew her to a career in learning? 24:47 - How useful is neuroscience for learning? 32:45 - How applicable are insights from science to practical situations? 36:33 - Sleep and learning     Contact Stella Twitter: @stellacollins LinkedIn:  linkedin.com/in/stellacollins Website: stellarlabs.eu (Company Website) Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/ Download the new white paper from Learning Pool written by John Helmer & Ben Betts – 'Data & learning: A new common-sense approach' https://learningpool.com/data-learning-a-new-common-sense-approach/

John talks to Mirjam Neelen, Head of Global Learning Design & Learning Sciences at Novartis, and a well-known blogger and speaker. She recently co-authored a book, Evidence-Informed Learning Design, with Paul Kirschner that has been extremely influential in learning and development. The book has plentiful tips, tools and examples to help L&D and training professionals avoid the myths and hype and design effective learning based on solid research.  The conversation also covers two controversial and much-vaunted areas for future development in learning: neuroscience and AI. Are they really as useful for learning as some believe?     02:55 - How does she balance practitioner role with ‘guruhood’? 05:08 - Why has the ‘evidence-informed’ message resonated so strongly? 7:46 - The learning sciences and how to approach them 10:40 - How useful is neuroscience for learning really? 15:58 - How useful is AI for learning? 22:36 - Adaptive systems and LXPs 25:10 - What role has tech played in shaping ideas about learning? 30:48 - When Theory met Reality 35:24 - How should people focus their efforts to become more evidence-informed?     Mentioned in the discussion [book] How Learning Happens: Seminal Works in Educational Psychology and What They Mean in Practice By Paul A. Kirschner, Carl Hendrick, Routledge 2020 [Podcast episode] Learning Sciences Weekly: Enhancing learning experiences using AI with Donald Clark  https://www.learningscienceweekly.com/student/activity/742575-episode-5-enhancing-learning-experiences-using-ai-with-donald-clark Dick Clark research on AI cognitive task analysis discussed in Trish Uhl Learning tech 2019 talk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzOz5shJU5k&t=2657s Mirjam's Hall of Fame Patti Shank Will Thalheimer Jane Bozarth Clark Quinn Connie Malamed Paul Kirschner Donald Clark Etienne Wenger Victoria Marsick Geary A. Rummler Guy Wallace Michael Eraut Thomas Gilbert Follow Mirjam Blog: https://3starlearningexperiences.wordpress.com/ Twitter: @MirjamN LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/mirjamneelen Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/ Download the new white paper from Learning Pool written by John Helmer & Ben Betts – 'Data & learning: A new common-sense approach' https://learningpool.com/data-learning-a-new-common-sense-approach/

John talks to Lior (Christine) Locher, a learning consultant, coach, author, and a director of the elearning network. Lior's experience spans journalism, practitioner L&D roles for companies such as McKinsey, Deloitte and the Boston Consulting Group as well as creative work and beer blogging. She has lived and worked on 4 continents. She knows 22 languages and speaks seven to intermediate level. She is a fellow of the Royal Society of Arts and the Learning and Performance Institute. They discuss the dangers of binary thinking and techniques Lior has developed to overcome it. Lior identifies as gender non-binary, and the theme has a personal dimension too, touching on her own struggle to define herself appropriately in a world that all too often wants to put people in boxes. 02:56 - Lifecoaching in the pandemic 04:50 - How can we avoid binary thinking? 08:15 - How does binary thinking show up in her coaching/consulting work? 14:34 - Is creative thinking less binary? 18:13 - How did she get into L&D? 24:44 - Binaries and gender 31:53 - How well does business culture cope with change? 35:58 - Bring on the Roaring 20s – or a lasting change? Mentioned in the discussion Tetralemma: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetralemma Website https://liorlocher.me/ Contact Lior LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christinelocher Twitter: @christineLocher Facebook: facebook.com/ChristineLocherLeadership/ Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/ Download the new white paper from Learning Pool written by John Helmer & Ben Betts – 'Data & learning: A new common-sense approach' https://learningpool.com/data-learning-a-new-common-sense-approach/

This time we're featuring the pilot episode of a brand new podcast from the Learning Hack team, Great Minds on Learning. In this series, Donald Clark, the internationally famous author, blogger and entrepreneur, joins John Helmer to discuss the history of thought and theorising about learning. It’s all here: the inspired, the enduring, the wacked-out weird and the just plain wrong in 2,500 years of learning theory from Aristotle to the present day. This inaugural episode is about the Cognitivists, a group of psychologists who probed the limits and the limitations of human memory, an area of focus that Donald Clark believes is fundamental to our understanding of how people learn. 00:47 Why is memory such an important focus for learning? 02:27 Introducing the Cognitivists 04:08 Hermann Ebbinghaus (1850-1909) 13:49 George A. MIller (1920-2012) 20:58 Richard C. Atkinson (1929- ) & Richard Shiffrin (1942- ) 25:41 Alan Baddeley (1934- ) 30:21 Endel Tulving (1927- ) 39:30 John Sweller (1946- ) 48:37 Summing up: the Cognitivists and Behaviourism Links The Blog that started it all: http://donaldclarkplanb.blogspot.com/2020/08/100-learning-theorists-2500-years-of.html Ebbinhaus bit.ly/2VvoxkX Miller bit.ly/37OaB85 Atkinson & Shiffrin bit.ly/37SEKTK Baddeley bit.ly/37WfFHq Tulving bit.ly/2VmFKNw Sweller bit.ly/2I7Pt2t Contact Donald Twitter: @DonaldClark LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-clark-04553022/ Blog: http://donaldclarkplanb.blogspot.com/ Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/ Download the new white paper from Learning Pool written by John Helmer & Ben Betts – 'Data & learning: A new common-sense approach' https://learningpool.com/data-learning-a-new-common-sense-approach/

John talks to Toby Harris, Product Marketing Manager at Filtered. Filtered is an innovative company that uses AI to help large organizations deliver relevant learning content to the right people at the right time, using personal recommendations to help build the skills they need. FIltered is rated a 'specialist' in Fosway's 9-grid for learning systems, so where does it sit within the learntech ecosystem? Filtered is all about categorizing information and knowledge for organizations – but is 'learning' really the right category for what FIltered does? 02:43 - How did he get into Learntech? 07:57 - What does Filtered do? 14:07 - How do you ensure relevence and quality with AI curation? 22:22 - Where does Filtered fit within the learntech ecosystem? 26:16 - Is Filtered actually a learning company? 32:50 - Are skills frameworks going to succeed where competencies perhaps didn’t? 38:49 - When is a skill not a skill? 41:37 - What excites him about the tech future and what are his fears? Ontology: how entities are grouped into basic categories and which of these entities exist on the most fundamental level. Persiflage: light, bantering talk or writing – a frivolous or flippant style of treating a subject. Toby has kindly contributed these note to the discussion: Benedict Evans: "All curation grows until it requires search. All search grows until it requires curation" as he writes about here: https://www.ben-evans.com/benedictevans/2016/1/31/lists-are-the-new-search - this process, applied in corporate training and HR/change, is the grist for our centaur mill here at Filtered. Centaur approach to AI - our own Greg Detre, who has worked with Filtered in various capacities for a while now, explains its benefits here: https://www.graymeta.com/metadatamatterspodcast/howhumansandmachinelearningdeliverthebestresult ... and here: https://www.makingdatamistakes.com/how-to-cheat-at-data-science-with-help-from-centaurs-and-the-wizard-of-oz/ Skills frameworks / ontologies: my colleague Vin describes our process here: https://learn.filtered.com/thoughts/transformative-skills-framework - you can't get away from a movement towards master frameworks, that's just the problem with ontologies, but the point here is there's a process to get to a unique framework, linked to a capability, for a given group of people. Jesper Balslev as the source, in a conversation, for the importance of 'negative technologies' to regulate the explosive and dangerous reality of new tech. He's probably already frustrated by the amount of times I've cited a comment from an off-hand chat with him in public but it's his fault for influencing my thinking so much. He fairly recently finished his own PhD thesis on some of the problems of measuring or even realising the supposed benefits of the digital revolution and 21st century skills in education: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jesperbalslev/ And if anyone would like to follow the work of 'academic / Dr Toby Harris', then they may wish to follow my academic twitter or follow me on academia.edu: https://twitter.com/tobiasharrisbbk https://birkbeck.academia.edu/TobiasHarris Otherwise my learning tech thoughts are best followed on LinkedIn. linkedin.com/in/tobiasharris Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/ Download the new white paper from Learning Pool written by John Helmer & Ben Betts – 'Data & learning: A new common-sense approach' https://learningpool.com/data-learning-a-new-common-sense-approach/

John talks to Dr. Gregg Collins, Chief Learning Scientist at NIIT. A Ph.D. in Artificial Intelligence from Yale University, Dr. Collins played a key role in the seminal research carried out at the Institute for the Learning Sciences (ILS) at Northwestern University in Chicago. He was a co-founder of Cognitive Arts Corporation, which was incorporated in 1995 to commercialize ILS and has been consistently recognized as a pioneer and leader in the effective use of instructional design and technology to support pedagogy. This wide-ranging discussion covers the culture in L&D, boring learning and how to avoid it, what LDs can learn from gaming, Curation, AI and troubling news about growth mindset. 02:46 Why does L&D accept criticism so easily? 08:33 How did he get into the learning business? 12:54 E = MC5 21:56 Computer games and learning 26:32 Curation 31:41 A.I. and Learning 40:00 Will A.I. move more quickly in some subjects than others? 43:14 Growth mindset - does it work? Mentioned in the discussion Seymour Papert: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Papert John Seely Brown and intelligent tutoring systems: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intelligent-Tutoring-Systems-Computers-People/dp/0126486816/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=9780126486803&linkCode=qs&qid=1616940715&s=books&sr=1-1 Gregg's videos about Narrow vs General AI (start here): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYNLccMmPfk Contact Gregg LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/gregg-collins-54a3971 Twitter: @NIITMTS NIIT website: https://www.niit.com/en/learning-outsourcing/ Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/ Download the new white paper from Learning Pool written by John Helmer & Ben Betts – 'Data & learning: A new common-sense approach' https://learningpool.com/data-learning-a-new-common-sense-approach/

Intelligent Tutoring Systems (Computers and People Series)

John Talks to Charles Jennings, who is Partner, Strategy and Performance of Tulser / 70:20:10 Institute. Recognised as one of the world's leading experts on building and implementing learning and organisational performance strategies, Charles has led projects for multinational corporations, government agencies, not-for-profits, and other organisations for more than 40 years. He has also held several academic posts. They discuss the influence of knowledge management, the conspiracy of convenience that hampers learning evaluation – and the 6-digit number that has played a significant role in his career, 70:20:10. 02:45 What was his reaction to the success of 70:20:10? 11:17 How has 70:20:10 changed workplace learning? 15:41 How did he come to be in learning technologies? 23:29 Influence of knowledge management on his career 24:45 Aims and thinking behind Tulser 28:31 The Conspiracy of Convenience 36:56 Learning in the post-pandemic future Mentioned in the discussion: The Conspiracy of Convenience: http://charles-jennings.blogspot.com/2010/04/five-barriers-to-effective-learning-in.html The Principle of Identical Elements, Thorndike and Woodworth (1901): https://research-methodology.net/the-principle-of-identical-elements/ [Book] Transforming Performance Measurement by Dean R Spitzer: https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/Transforming_Performance_Measurement.html?id=fyX7Frm5DeEC&source=kp_book_description&redir_esc=y Contact Charles Twitter: @charlesjennings LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/charlesjennings Blog: charles-jennings.blogspot.com/ Website: http://www.duntroon.com/ Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/ Download the new white paper from Learning Pool written by John Helmer & Ben Betts – 'Data & learning: A new common-sense approach' https://learningpool.com/data-learning-a-new-common-sense-approach/

'People imagine that technology's a recent thing in learning, [but] it's always been there.' From its earliest beginnings in cave paintings to today's AI-driven learning systems with interfaces influenced by consumer technology, Donald Clark tells the colourful story of learning technologies in conversation with John Helmer. Donald has been an important part of that history himself. Growing up in the housing schemes of Livingston, Scotland, Donald studied Philosophy at Edinburgh University and Dartmouth College USA, where he first encountered artificial intelligence. Co-founder and CEO of Epic Group plc, which established itself as the leading elearning company in the UK, sold in 2005, he is now CEO of Wildfire, visiting professor to the University of Derby and sits on numerous boards including those of the University for Industry, City & Guilds, Cogbooks Ltd and, LearningPool. 03:36 What were the roots of his fascination with learntech 06:21 The prehistory of learning technologies 09:21 The computer age 14:10 How did tech and theory affect design in the 90s? 17:23 Dawn of the internet era 23:06 The LMS arrives 25:59 Learning goes mobile 29:07 Consumer technology drives learner technology 31:34 Designing for the learner (not the administrator!) 37:43 Important drivers for the future of learning tech 43:46 Is the future of learning tech convergent or divergent? Mentioned in the discussion: Electronic Performance Systems [book] by Gloria Gery Emotional Design: Why We Love (or Hate) Everyday Things [book] by Don Norman Contact Donald Twitter: @DonaldClark LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-clark-04553022/ Blog: http://donaldclarkplanb.blogspot.com/ Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/ Download the new white paper from Learning Pool written by John Helmer & Ben Betts – 'Data & learning: A new common-sense approach' https://learningpool.com/data-learning-a-new-common-sense-approach/

John talks to Page Chen, CEO of Remote Learner; a learntech business leader with a strong academic background. How does she characterise the development of learning systems in the first two decades of the 21st Century, a period during which there was a good deal of pushback from 'guru' figures and practitioners alike against the admin-focused model promulgated by the industry? Have we reached a place now where the design of learning systems is better informed by learning science? 02:58 How did she get into learning technologies? 07:43 How well do the academic and corporate views of learntech align? 10:26 Development of the learntech industry in C21 14:38 Content & Platform 25:22 Data and modern learning systems 30:54 What is the right balance between supporting learners and giving them autonomy? 37:52 Will L&D have to reskill for an adaptive, AI-driven future? Mentioned in the discussion: B. J. Fogg, behavior scientist at Stanford University: https://www.bjfogg.com/ Remote Learner's website: https://www.remote-learner.com/ Contact Page Chen Linked: linkedin.com/in/pagechen Personal website: pagechen.com Twitter: @pagechenphd Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/ Download the new white paper from Learning Pool written by John Helmer & Ben Betts – 'Data & learning: A new common-sense approach' https://learningpool.com/data-learning-a-new-common-sense-approach/

John talks to Julie Dirksen, a leading expert in instructional design, digital learning and behaviour change. Is it a problem for learning professionals that even when they have supported learners in gaining the knowledge and skills they need to do things right, and to do the right thing, once back in the workplace they so often do the exact opposite?  This conversation dives deep into the mechanics of behaviour change, addressing the 'elephant and rider' problem in human psychology, and confronts the tricky ethical questions that effective use of behaviour change techniques inevitably brings up.     03:37 What does the ‘elephant and rider’ image mean in behaviour change? 12:26 The importance of feedback 16:48 Intent vs behaviour 18:00 Technology & behaviour change 24:28 The ethics of behaviour change 31:18 Is the ‘conspiracy of convenience’ a behaviour change problem? 39:03 Tips for overcoming resistance to being trained     Mentioned in the discussion: Jonathan Haidt, responsible for the 'elephant and rider' metaphor: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan\_Haidt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio\_Damasio https://www.happinesshypothesis.com/ https://www.researchgate.net/publication/51070630\_The\_Behaviour\_Change\_Wheel\_a\_new\_method\_for\_characterising\_and\_designing\_behaviour\_change\_interventions http://www.behaviourchangewheel.com/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nudge\_(book) Julie's Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/search/top?q=design%20for%20how%20people%20learn Contact Julie Dirksen LinkedIn: https://wwwlinkedin.com/in/juliedirksen Twitter: @usablelearning Website: usablelearning.wordpress.com Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/ Download the new white paper from Learning Pool written by John Helmer & Ben Betts – 'Data & learning: A new common-sense approach' https://learningpool.com/data-learning-a-new-common-sense-approach/

John talks to Harold Jarche, blogger, speaker and consultant in the closely adjacent but oddly separate worlds of learning and knowledge management. People at work need more than skills training and compliance learning. They have to navigate the complex knowledge environment that technology has given us, using concepts and tools that are part of an emerging field described by figures such as George Siemens, Dave Snowden, and Harold himself. Harold talks about Personal Knowledge Mastery (PKM), his own take on this, in a wide-ranging discussion that ranges over sensemaking, wayfinding, the influence of military training and the current state of social media. 02:44 - Is he in learning or knowledge management? 05:24 - Sensemaking and wayfinding 10:18 - Personal Knowledge Mastery (PKM) 17:40 - How can PKM be supported within the L&D workflow? 23:31 - Is it hard for L&D to think about groups rather than individuals? 27:24 - How can the learning tech stack support PKM? 29:47 - Has military background influenced his thinking? 36:34 - Is the current state of social media less useful for PKM? Harold's website: https://jarche.com/ Mentioned in the discussion: Dave Snowden https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/david-snowden-profiles-knowledge-stan-garfield/ Lilia Efimova https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/lilia-efimova-profiles-knowledge-stan-garfield/ The Long Now Foundation: https://longnow.org/ Metamodernism (Metamodernity): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metamodernism Contact Harold LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/jarche Twitter: @hjarche Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/ Download the new white paper from Learning Pool written by John Helmer – 'Experience: theory, design and supporting technologies for an experience-based learning culture' https://learningpool.com/theory-design-and-supporting-technologies-for-an-experience-based-learning-culture/

Looking back over a year and a half of podcast episodes, John Helmer summarizes the main themes that have emerged from these these fascinating discussions and attempts to draw insights by taking a helicopter view.  Where do people agree, and where do they clash? Includes contributions from George Siemens, Nick Shackleton-Jones, Donald Clark, Connie Malamed, Gianni Giacomelli, Laura Lee-Gibbs, Andrea Miles, Sharon Claffey Kaliouby, Jane Hart, Matthew Confer, Paul Matthews, David Wilson, Julliette Denny, Steve Dineen, Dani Johnson, Henri Palmer, Paul McElvaney, Leonard Houx, Myles Runham, Victoria Marsick, Reda Sadki, Caroline Ford and David Perring.     01:23 Learning Hack Facts & Figures 04:04 5. The Learner Experience 13:18 4. Learning in the Flow of Work 20:22 3. Women in Learning 25:42 2. Evidence-Based Design 31:26 1. The Global Pandemic     Writers and thinkers referenced by Leonard Houx: David Merrill Robert M. Gagné Siegfried Engelmann Charles Reigeluth John Sweller Paul Kirschner Jeroen J. G. van Merriënboer Books cited: Diana Laurillard Laurillard, D. (2002). Rethinking University Teaching. A conversational framework for the effective use of learning technologies. London: Routledge ISBN 0415256798 Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/ Download the new white paper from Learning Pool written by John Helmer – 'Experience: theory, design and supporting technologies for an experience-based learning culture' https://learningpool.com/theory-design-and-supporting-technologies-for-an-experience-based-learning-culture/

John talks to Laura Lee-Gibbs, Digital Learning Consultant & Director of Learn Fox. In her 14 years in the industry she has worked both vendor-side and client-side, across a broad range of sectors including legal, healthcare, retail, automotive, hospitality, financial, charities, professional associations, public sector and government agencies. Her practice focuses on digital transformation, and one of the things she does a lot for clients is to guide them through the difficult decisions involved in choosing a learning system. She has a three-step process for doing this which she talks through in this interview. The discussion also covers the importance of vendor relationships and the human factors to look out for when choosing a vendor with whom to work.

* 02:20 How did Laura get into learning?

05:16 What is the Way of the Fox?
08:12 A 3-step process for getting the right system
09:06 Step 1 - Defining requirements
10:09 Step 2 - Define your top criteria
15:01 How far ahead should you look?
17:09 Step 3 Research available systems
21:34 LMS or LXP? Or both? (Or neither!)
25:08 Is it tougher for smaller organizations?
30:23 Client/vendor relationships

Mentioned in the episode:

Fosway digital learning realities research: https://www.fosway.com/research/next-gen-learning/digital-learning-realities-2019/ The MoSCoW Method: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MoSCoW_method#:~:text=The%20term%20MoSCoW%20itself%20is,to%20make%20the%20word%20pronounceable.

Laura's website http://www.learnfox.co.uk/ Contact Laura

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sussexlmsconsultant Contact John Helmer

Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/ Download the new white paper from Learning Pool written by John Helmer – 'Experience: theory, design and supporting technologies for an experience-based learning culture' https://learningpool.com/theory-design-and-supporting-technologies-for-an-experience-based-learning-culture/

John talks to Andrea Miles, CEO of BestAtDigital, about her plans for the new company she is helming, spun out of Cornerstone, and her journey to get to this point. Andrea’s career spans over 20 years in learning, mostly in leadership roles. Since 2004 she has formed and managed to keep together a core team that has seen nine M&A transactions. What it it like to lead through such a time of upheaval, weathering the market consolidations of the last few years? And yet, during this time, Andrea has not only survived, but has consistently innovated. The discussion covers the agile working style she has championed, and her espousal of Design Thinking, as well as what it is like to be a woman in top teams that are mostly male.     03:44 What sort of company is B.A.D.? 06:34 How did she get into the learning industry? 08:10 Account management at Epic 10:11 Transitioning into a leadership role 13:54 Leading a team through multiple acquisitions 20:08 Advice for aspiring female (and male!) leaders 24:24 Innovating through agile teamwork 28:34 Design Thinking 32:25 Which comes first, product or brand? 46:00 Will B.A.D. create products?     Mentioned in the discussion: 'T'aint What You Do (It's The Way That You Do It' was written not by George Gershwin but by Sy Oliver & James (Trummy) Young. The Spotify model:  https://www.atlassian.com/agile/agile-at-scale/spotify#:~:text=will%20be%20used.-,Tribes,what%20we%20call%20Dunbar's%20Number). BestAtDigital Website: https://bestatdigital.com/ Contact Andrea LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/andreamilesdigitaltransformer Twitter: @AndreaMiles1 Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/ Download the new white paper from Learning Pool written by John Helmer – 'Experience: theory, design and supporting technologies for an experience-based learning culture' https://learningpool.com/theory-design-and-supporting-technologies-for-an-experience-based-learning-culture/

John talks to Gianni Giacomelli, Chief Innovation Officer at Genpact, and Head of Design Strategy at MIT’s Centre for Collective Intelligence. Pointing to a growing body of research that pictures intelligence as an emerging property of a network, Gianni argues that we should focus on collective, rather than individual intelligence, in structuring and developing organizations. Diversity is a big part of this, with evidence piling up to show that more diverse teams get better results.  The conversation also covers the role that AI is playing in learning technology and a future in which collective intelligence also embraces human collaboration with machines.     08:34 Where does learning sit within Genpact? 10:46 What's his innovation story for learning? 15:10 The nature & science of intelligence 21:31 Role of machines (AI) 26:30 Gianni's view of the current state of AI in learning 30:57 Learning and the geopolitics of AI 34:12 The future of machine/human co-operation     Links Augmented Collective Intelligence: https://www.supermind.design/ Research on diversity and teams:  https://hbr.org/2011/06/defend-your-research-what-makes-a-team-smarter-more-women  https://blogs.cfainstitute.org/investor/2016/10/04/collective-intelligence-three-factors-for-building-smarter-teams/  https://aisel.aisnet.org/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1259&context=amcis2017 Some of Gianni’s blogs and videos:  https://www.genpact.com/insight/article/a-phygital-post-covid-19-world-of-work-time-zone-is-the-only-physical-constraint  https://www.genpact.com/insight/blog/prepare-now-for-the-future-of-work  https://www.genpact.com/insight/point-of-view/securing-the-critical-ties-that-bind  http://www.genpact.com/insight/blog/the-translation-of-innovation-thinkers-and-tinkerers  https://www.genpact.com/insight/videos/intelligent-automation-enabled-by-ai-designed-for-humans Why do large organizations need design thinking: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FdWqgU8on4 New ways of working driving collective intelligence with AI: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obqbWYGZ5-Q Contact Gianni LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ggiacomelli/ Twitter: @ggiacomelli Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/ Download the new white paper from Learning Pool written by John Helmer – 'Experience: Theory, design and supporting technologies for an experience-based learning culture'  https://learningpool.com/theory-design-and-supporting-technologies-for-an-experience-based-learning-culture/

John talks to Sharon Claffey Kaliouby, VP, North America for Learning Pool, an award-winning professional and co-founder of the #women in learning group with Kate Graham. Sharon has held several high profile executive roles in Learning & Development with the likes of Thomson Reuters and Enterprise Ireland. Prior to Learning Pool, she was a Learning Fellow & Advisor for Elliott Masie Productions and previously Head of Global Learning & Development for State Street Global Advisors in Boston, Massachusetts. She is also a keen sportsperson – surfing, golf, fencing and basketball are among the sports that get a mention. But the conversation is mainly about the challenges facing women in their career progression in learning, a profession whose workforce, ironically, is predominantly female at entry level. It also touches on the 'Lean-in’ movement of a few years back – was it a completely positive thing? – and the current effects of the pandemic, which is impacting women more harshly than men. What can women do about all this – and what about men? 03:35 Why are there so few women at exec level in learning? 05:58 Has there been much change over 20 years? 09:13 Does tech have a particular problem? 11:53 The 'she-cession' 14:37 Sharon's experience as a woman in L&D 20:44 When awards wins don't bring life wins 22:41 Reflections on the 'Lean In' book and movement 26:17 What can women do to change the situation? 29:45 Should they take up golf? 32:00 What can men do to change the situation? 35:14 Where next for #womeninlearning? #womeninlearning LinkedIn group: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/12210548/ Sharon's 'Hang Tens' can be found here: https://learningpool.com/category/webinars/ Books mentioned: Lean In: Women, Work, and the Will to Lead, by Sheryl Sandberg and Nell Scovell, Alfred A. Knopf, 2013 The Orange Line: A Woman's Guide to Integrating Career, Family and Life by by Jodi Ecker Detjen, Michelle a. Waters & Kelly Watson, JMK Publishing, May 2013 The Next Smart Step: How to Overcome Gender Stereotypes and Build a Stronger Organization, by Jodi Ecker Detjen, Kelly Watson, Imagine Publishing, Feb. 2021 Our Learning Brain: Engaging Your Brain for Learning & Habit Change, by Dr. Celine Mullins, Oak Tree Press, Oct. 2018 Contact Sharon: Twitter: @Sharon_Kaliouby LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/sharonkaliouby18 Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/ Download the new white paper from Learning Pool written by John Helmer – 'Experience: Theory, design and supporting technologies for an experience-based learning culture' https://learningpool.com/theory-design-and-supporting-technologies-for-an-experience-based-learning-culture/

John Helmer talks to Matthew Confer, VP, Strategy & Business Development at Abilitie, an expert in leadership and decision-making. How do leaders make tough decisions in tight situations? How do they deal with the law of unintended consequences, which can bedevil so many in positions of authority? Matthew, who has run many simulation training events with leaders in large companies around the world, gives a three-step framework for tough decisions in tight spots, and discusses how leaders are coping with the tough decisions confronting them in the global pandemic. 03:26 A three-step decision-making framework 07:00 Tips for fast decision-making 10:48 Premortems and snakes 12:58 Decision-making and the law of unintended consequences 15:36 Decision-making in the pandemic 21:26 Matthew's personal journey to leadership learning 24:07 Advice for leaders coming out of lockdown Matthew's Ted Talk: https://www.ted.com/talks/matthew_confer_before_you_decide_3_steps_to_better_decision_making Abiltie's website: https://www.abilitie.com/ Matthew's Podcast, Learning to Lead: https://www.abilitie.com/learn-to-lead-podcast/ Contact Matthew LinkedIn linkedin.com/in/matthewconfer Twitter @MatthewConfer Download the new white paper from Learning Pool written by John Helmer – 'Experience: Theory, design and supporting technologies for an experience-based learning culture' https://learningpool.com/theory-design-and-supporting-technologies-for-an-experience-based-learning-culture/ Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

John Helmer talks to Jane Hart, Founder of the Centre for Learning & Performance Technologies (C4LPT), whose Top Tools for Learning list, now in its 12th year, rates the popularity of various technology tools under categories of personal learning, workplace learning and education.  The list has consistently highlighted the importance of generic tools such as PowerPoint, Slack and YouTube for learning online, and how big a part informal learning plays in complementing course-based materials. As such it paints a very different picture of the world from that purveyed by learntech vendors and analysts.  John asks what this year's list shows in terms of long-term trends, as well as, inevitably, the effect of the pandemic on how people are learning.     01:31 What does the list say about learners' response to Covid-19? 05:08 The 'sub-lists': personal learning, workplace learning and education 09:20 Is learning too 'fuzzy' a word? 14:31 Why do learntech vendors score so low in the lists? 20:18 Can some of learning not be productized? 26:51 How to balance self-directed learning with the needs of the business 29:14 The biggest problem facing L&D today? 32:04 What is Jane most excited about for the future?     The Top Tools for Learning list 2020: https://www.toptools4learning.com/ Modern Workplace Learning 2020 [Magazine]: http://modernworkplacelearning.com/magazine/ Centre for Learning & Performance Technologies (C4LPT): https://c4lpt.co.uk/ c4lpt.co.uk/blog (Blog) Contact Jane LinkedIn linkedin.com/in/c4lpt Twitter @C4LPT Download the new white paper from Learning Pool written by John Helmer – 'Experience: Theory, design and supporting technologies for an experience-based learning culture'  https://learningpool.com/theory-design-and-supporting-technologies-for-an-experience-based-learning-culture/ Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

As pressure mounts on L&D to get out of its bind on learning analytics and start taking data seriously, John Helmer talks to Dr George Siemens, founder president of the Society for Learning Analytics Research, and the father of connectivist learning theory. In George’s view, conditions have never been more favourable for a more data-driven approach in Corporate learning, with the Covid crisis massively accelerating digital transformation across all areas of organisational operations. Learning analytics are just one area of this internationally renowned author and speaker's work. George is also professor at the University of Texas at Arlington and Director of the Centre for Change and Complexity in Learning at the University of South Australia. This wide-ranging discussion also covers connectivism, MOOCs and the offloading of human cognitive capabilities to AI with its implications for learning. 05:26 Learning analytics 10:16 Could corporates work with academics on analytics? 16:50 Connectivism 21:37 How has connectivism aged? 25:32 AI and learning 35:03 MOOCs 40:52 The road out of Covid Mentioned in the discussion: [Book] Learning as a Way of Being by Peter B. Vaill (1996) https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/Learning_as_a_Way_of_Being.html?id=DzDIwAEACAAJ&source=kp_book_description&redir_esc=y Peter Senge https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Senge [Book] Psychology of Learning for Instruction by Marcy P. Driscoll https://www.amazon.co.uk/Psychology-Learning-Instruction-Driscoll-Second/dp/B004BRZPC6 Ronald S Burt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Stuart_Burt SOLAR Website: https://www.solaresearch.org/ Contact George: http://hacognition.org/ Twitter @gsiemens LinkedIn linkedin.com/in/gsiemens Download the new white paper from Learning Pool written by John Helmer – 'Experience: Theory, design and supporting technologies for an experience-based learning culture' https://learningpool.com/theory-design-and-supporting-technologies-for-an-experience-based-learning-culture/ Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

Psychology of Learning for Instruction By Marcy P. Driscoll (2nd, Second Edition)

John Helmer talks to Paul Matthews, Founder and CEO of People Alchemy, about learning transfer, the business of ensuring that what is learned results in real and measurable change in behaviours and performance. Coming from an engineering background, Paul was motivated to focus on this area by the high failure rate he observed in organisational training initiatives. 01:58 How is Covid affecting Paul and his business? 03:12 Why is learning transfer important? 07:48 What is learning transfer? 08:36 What is the best way to make it happen? 11:42 Learning transfer: elephant in the room? 14:23 Who owns learning transfer? 16:12 How generic are the guidelines for good transfer? 21:20 L&D's lack of control 22:42 Measuring learning transfer 25:14 Can L&D get the data it needs? 28:23 Is Kirkpatrick still relevant? 31:46 Is workflow learning helpful for transfer? 36:50 Is he optimistic for the future of learning transfer? 40:56 Top tips for learning transfer Mentioned in the discussion: Julie Dirksen on behaviour change (the elephant and the rider) https://medium.com/learnmaps/designing-learning-experiences-for-elephants-cbebd272e942 Dr Ina Weinbauer-Heidel - 12 Levers of Learning Transfer https://www.amazon.co.uk/WHAT-MAKES-TRAINING-REALLY-WORK/dp/3746996775 Evaluation models mentioned: Kirkpatrick Brinkerhoff Phillips Thalheimer Here's a handy summary of learning evaluation models https://elearningindustry.com/4-learning-evaluation-models-can-use Contact Paul: paul-matthews.com (Personal Website) peoplealchemy.com (Company Website) Twitter @PeopleAlchemy LinkedIn linkedin.com/in/paulmatthews100 Download the new white paper from Learning Pool written by John Helmer – 'Experience: Theory, design and supporting technologies for an experience-based learning culture' https://learningpool.com/theory-design-and-supporting-technologies-for-an-experience-based-learning-culture/ Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

WHAT MAKES TRAINING REALLY WORK: 12 LEVERS OF TRANSFER EFFECTIVENESS

John Helmer talks to Myles Runham, a well respected learning consultant who has held senior leadership roles at the BBC and Ask.com, about the evolving role of L&D. Myles shares some evolving ideas about how the role should be reframed to reflect the changing realities of the digital age, moving from a focus on courses and projects to thinking like the manager of a natural ecosystem, where not everything can be tamed and controlled. This involves being hands-off in some areas and allowing elements of 'wildness' into the picture. The impact of Covid-19 is discussed, which has been beneficial in some respects, as well as potential blockers to overcome.     02:06 L&D as service management 05:42 L&D and the ecosystem 08:00 Relinquishing control 10:16 What's wrong with the current L&D role? 11:39 Managing stakeholder expectations 13:44 What new skills or hires might be needed? 15:49 The role of data 19:50 Examples 'in the wild' 25:04 Blockers 27:40 The opportunity offered by Covid 30:30 Rewilding L&D 36:35 Top tips for rewilding L&D     Myles's website: https://mylesrunham.com/ Myles's Blog: mylesrun.wordpress.com/ Contact Myles LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/myles-runham Twitter: @mylesrun Download the new white paper from Learning Pool written by John Helmer – 'Experience: Theory, design and supporting technologies for an experience-based learning culture'  https://learningpool.com/theory-design-and-supporting-technologies-for-an-experience-based-learning-culture/ Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

John Helmer talks to David Wilson, Founder and CEO of Fosway, Europe’s #1 HR Industry Analyst. Fosway has recently released first findings of research into how COVID-19 is changing learning, and David sees this as a breakthrough moment for learning tech. But do the changes that the research reveal signal broader shifts in the content and platform market, and in particular, has it changed David's generally quite sceptical view of the learning experience platform (LXP) as a meaningful category?     03:09 Skillsoft files for Chapter 11 10:17 Summary of Fosway Covid 19 research 16:33 Surprises in the research - content 20:43 Surprises on platform 30:50 Marketing hype over LXP 36:31 Is LXP a change of paradigm? 50:18 Advice for L&D & vendors coming out of lockdown     Links Fosway's Covid-19 L&D research: first take  https://www.fosway.com/research/next-gen-learning/covid19-research/ Fosway's website: https://www.fosway.com/ Contact David on Twitter: @dwil23 David on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dwil23/ John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

John Helmer talks to Juliette Denny, Managing Director and Ideologist-in-chief of award-winning learning tech company Growth Engineering. Juliet’s life mission is to eradicate dull online learning, ‘It breaks my heart, she says, ‘that something that should be so fun has all the qualities of a beige sock.’ They discuss the controversies over gamification and its basis in brain science and learning theory.     01:50 Her start in learning 04:13 Does gamification work? 09:02 How does game psychology work in learning? 13:32 Tapping into the limbic brain 19:30 The social dimension of gamification 25:35 Learning theory and the theory wars 33:05 How is she coping with the crisis? 36:27 What should we focus on in the return to 'normal'     Mentioned in the discussion: Digital Game-based Learning by Marc Prensky  https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/Digital\_Game\_based\_Learning.html?id=XBwiAQAAIAAJ&redir\_esc=y Self Determination Theory (Deci & Ryan)  https://www.learning-theories.com/self-determination-theory-deci-and-ryan.html Growth Engineering website: https://www.growthengineering.co.uk/ Juliette on Twitter: @juliettedenny Juliette on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/juliettedenny Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

John Helmer talks to Donald Clark, EdTech Entrepreneur, CEO, Professor, Researcher, Blogger and Speaker, about his work in AI for learning. Donald was CEO and one of the original founders of Epic Group plc, which established itself as the leading company in the UK online learning market, floated on the Stock Market in 1996 and sold in 2005. He is now a director of numerous learning technologies companies, and a noted, sometimes controversial speaker and writer. 01:31 State of the art in AI 09:42 Challenges in using AI for learning 16:10 What is Total Recall? 20:22 How can we use AI in learning? 24:32 Data issues and L&D 29:34 Ethics & AI 37:02 Will AI have a bad effect on learning design? 40:46 What's next for AI? 46:03 Are dogs smarter than AI? Links Wildfire's website http://www.wildfirelearning.co.uk/ Donald on Twitter: @DonaldClark Donald on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-clark-04553022/ Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

John Helmer talks to Reda Sadki, President of the Geneva Learning Foundation about how he is using digital learning to help health professionals respond to the crisis on an international scale. What lessons can be learned from previous epidemics and pandemics? How will the developing world be affected when Coronavirus gets going in earnest there – and can his Scholar programme and Teach to Reach initiative, which connect international health professionals to spread good practice, have an effect in mitigating the ravages of Covid-19? 01:38 The Impact Accelerator programme 05:34 Lessons learned that can apply to Covid-19? 08:50 The 2 narratives about Covid in the developing world 13:09 Relevance to corporate learning 22:24 Is international co-operation getting tougher? 33:10 Big ideas or marginal gains? 39:42 Tensions between the centre and the local hubs 44:44 The future for the Geneva Learning Foundation Links Wikipedia definition of a Skeuomorph: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skeuomorph Website of the Geneva learning Foundation: https://www.learning.foundation/ Anna Petherick writing in The Lancet on Ebola: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(15)60075-7/fulltext Reda on Twitter: @redasadki Reda on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/redasadki/ Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

John Helmer talks to Steve Dineen, Chief Storyteller and CEO of Fuse Universal about the passion and sense of purpose that has driven him in making a success of this innovative company. Steve is a second-time-around entrepreneur, having built up and then sold his previous company Fuel in 2007. Fuse had its genesis in an altruistic drive to bring digital learning to the developing world, and Fuse School still continues to offer free online schooling, with a renewed sense of relevance and purpose in the Coronavirus crisis. 02:10 How did he get into learning technologies? 05:14 How did he get back into it after the sale of Fuel? 09:47 Where does Fuse sit in the learning tech landscape? 19:38 Does Fuse straddle two markets? 21:58 How is Coronavirus affecting his company? 25:57 Is the crisis driving conservative buyer behaviours? 28:15 How is the crisis affecting Fuse School? 32:36 What will we see from Fuse in the future? 35:08 Is there a difference between performance support and learning? Fuse Universal website: https://www.fuseuniversal.com/ fuseschool: https://www.fuseschool.org/users/sign_in Contact Steve Dineen Twitter: @stevedineen LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/stevedineen Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

John Helmer talks to Dani Johnson, Co-founder and Principal Analyst at Redthread Research, about her work on learning ecosystems. Citing the growth of point solutions as evidence of a change in the learning technologies market away from the 'big suite' solution, she says learning professionals need to intentionalize their ecosystems. 03:19 Intentional and unintentional ecosystems 04:44 Is ecosystem more than a buzzword? 06:24 Types of ecosystems 09:54 How does this affect L&D? 11:22 Integration is the name of the game 12:21 Suites vs specialists 13:55 Redthread's learntech taxonomy 17:31 How are buyers' views towards their vendors changing? 20:20 Responsive organisations 24:50 Current state of the learning technologies market 26:25 Is the crisis driving conservative buying patterns? 28:17 What has she seen recently – good and bad? Redthread Research https://redthreadresearch.com/ Reports mentioned in the conversation: 1. The Art and Science of Designing a Learning Technology Ecosystem Authors: Dani Johnson and Priyanka Mehrotra 2. Learning Tech Landscape: The Wild, Wild West Author: Dani Johnson Contact Dani Johnson Twitter: @danij2 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dani-johnson/ Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

John Helmer talks to Henrietta Palmer, Learning Solutions Manager at a global travel company and joint winner of Gold in the 'most innovative new learning technologies product - UK' category at the Learning Technologies Awards Awards 2019 for the Otto learnbot. They talk about her early career, other pioneering AI work she has done, and the importance of good partner relationships with learning tech vendors. 01:23 How did she get her start in learning? 03:14 Did the move from vendor to practitioner change her view? 06:52 How has she seen L&D change during her time in the field? 09:04 Has broadband made us sloppy about learning design? 11:34 Developing an AI-driven learnbot 22:43 AI for content creation 25:28 What's next? 27:42 Analytics 36:16 Are new L&D skills needed for analytics? 32:14 The current state of organisational learning Contact Henrietta Palmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/henrietta-palmer-learning-professional/ Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

John Helmer talks to Paul McElvaney, CEO of Learning Pool, one of the fastest growing and most innovative companies in the learning technologies market. From its origins as an elearning business for local government organisations, formed around Paul’s kitchen table, Learning Pool has grown to employ more than 200 people on seven sites and is now moving into the US. The company has won a dazzling array of awards and completed a slew of acquisitions, including last year’s purchase of innovation leader HT2.     01:24 Where did it all begin? 05:57 Key turning points for the business  09:53 Enter private capital 12:14 What has this experience shown him about the market? 13:57 Suites v specialists 16:02 Current state of the market 20:49 LXP 24:28 Innovation at Learning Pool 28:30 Outputs from Learning Pool Labs 31:52 Preserving the culture through growth     Contact Paul McElvaney Twitter: @mcelvaney LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-mcelvaney-73243011/ Website: https://learningpool.com/ Contact John Helmer Twitter: Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

John Helmer talks to Paul McElvaney, CEO of Learning Pool, one of the fastest growing and most innovative companies in the learning technologies market. From its origins as an elearning business for local government organisations, formed around Paul’s kitchen table, Learning Pool has grown to employ more than 200 people on seven sites and is now moving into the US. The company has won a dazzling array of awards and completed a slew of acquisitions, including last year’s purchase of innovation leader HT2.     01:24 Where did it all begin? 05:57 Key turning points for the business  09:53 Enter private capital 12:14 What has this experience shown him about the market? 13:57 Suites v specialists 16:02 Current state of the market 20:49 LXP 24:28 Innovation at Learning Pool 28:30 Outputs from Learning Pool Labs 31:52 Preserving the culture through growth     Contact Paul McElvaney Twitter: @mcelvaney LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-mcelvaney-73243011/ Website: https://learningpool.com/ Contact John Helmer Twitter: Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

John Helmer talks to Leonard Houx, Director at the eLearning Network and Senior Instructional Designer at Cass Business School. In an age when people who do his job are more often called learning designers or learning experience designers, how relevant is the history of instructional design to challenges we face today? As someone who knows both higher education and organisational learning, Leonard is uniquely placed to give insights on both. He also talks about his early love of skateboarding and how it causes him to reflect on how successive generations of designers tend to reinvent the wheel.

01:24 Skateboarding and Instructional Design
03:52 Who should we be reading?
04:51 ID in Higher Education
08:55 Pitfalls of learning experience design
12:43 Zombie Ideas
20:19 Can people learn from experience?
28:09 Learning experience design and UX
34:30 Ignorance of ID in Higher Ed

Writers and thinkers on instructional design referenced by Leonard in this podcast:
David Merrill
Robert M. Gagné
Siegfried Engelmann
Charles Reigeluth
John Sweller
Paul Kirschner
Jeroen J. G. van Merriënboer

Books cited:
Diana Laurillard
Laurillard, D. (2002). Rethinking University Teaching. A conversational framework for the effective use of learning technologies. London: Routledge ISBN 0415256798 .

Didau, D. (2015) What if everything you knew about education was wrong? Carmarthen: Crown House.

Also mentioned:
Donald Norman, who coined the term 'user experience' (UX)
Jacob Nielsen, co-founder with the above of influential UX consultancy Neilsen Norman

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John Helmer talks to visitors, exhibitors, speakers and all-comers to get a picture of why people come to this event, what they get out of it, and what it has to tells this year about the state of the market in learning technologies and the progress of thought about learning more generally. 01:57 Ken Ross 06:46 Fiona Leteney 11:22 Carsten Storgaard 19:20 Connie Malamed 24:33 Martin Couzins and Barcamp 27:59 Day 2 - Caroline Ford 29:12 Morten Zetlitz & Anders Heivoll of Galdr Studio 33:54 Vivian Heijnen & Jos Arets 702010 Institute 37:16 Caroline Ford - Conference 2nd day wrap-up Links: Now Communications https://nowcomms.com/ Fosway Group https://www.fosway.com/ Laerdal https://laerdal.com/gb/ Connie Malamed http://theelearningcoach.com/ Galdr Studio https://www.galdr.no/ 702010 Institute https://702010institute.com/ Sponsors: To learn more about Powtoon's Business solution (and claim your Learning Hack discount), visit https://go.powtoon.com/learninghack/ Visit Make Real’s shiny new website: https://makereal.co.uk Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

John Helmer talks to Stephen Walsh, Co-founder of Anders Pink, the company whose digital curation tool helps individuals and teams to stay smart through continuous learning. Why has digital curation become so significant in learning in recent years? How effective are tools such as Anders Pink in combatting the problem of information overload when the volume of content published on the internet continues to grow every year? And will the lustre of these tools begin to fade when curation stops being a fashionable buzzword? 02:16 What does Anders Pink do? 03:53 The gestation of curation 08:17 Curation in the hype cycle 13:57 The clickbait problem 22:18 How does the algorithm work? 29:31 How selective is it? 34:38 AP in the learning ecosytem/stack 39:06 Content in the learner experience 42:30 The data-driven future Stephen on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephentwalsh/ Anders Pink on Twitter: @AndersPink Sponsor Offers: To learn more about Powtoon's Business solution (and claim your Learning Hack discount), visit https://go.powtoon.com/learninghack/ For a chance to win an Oculus Go VR, take part in Make Real's serious game team challenge by visiting stand G55 at Learning Technologies exhibition London 12th and 13th of February. https://makereal.co.uk Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

John Helmer talks to Sophie Costin, Head of Learning Design at VR specialists Make Real, and Tom Hickmore, Creative Director at Nice Media, who create video-based learning solutions and campaigns. What is it like to design learning experiences in emerging technology areas like Virtual Reality and AI-delivered video learning? We explore how learning design is changing with two expert practitioners working and experimenting on real projects at the very leading edge of their craft. 02:21 How different is it? 10:44 Designing learning experiences in VR 12:43 Digital now on a par with face-to-face experiences? 17:24 Designing learning experiences for video 20:08 Limitations of video 22:17 Going beyond the course 25:11 Lack of established practice a problem? 28:46 Extreme learning design within the corporate context 30:41 Role of creativity 31:40 What skills do we need? 33:51 The importance of point of view 38:28 Future of learning design Sophie on LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/sophie-costin-609a5935 Tom on LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/tomhickmore Sponsor Offers: To learn more about Powtoon's Business solution (and claim your Learning Hack discount), visit https://go.powtoon.com/learninghack/ To claim a 25% discount on your first Earthly Systems project, go to https://www.earthlysystems.com/ and quote 'Learning Hack' on the contact form. Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

As we look forward to a new decade, John Helmer talks to Miles Runham about the trends and buzzwords currently dominating the debate in learning. Together they try to distinguish those which are mainly hype and hot air from those that L&D really needs to focus on this year and beyond. Myles Runham advises organisations responding to the challenges and opportunities created by digital technologies, and has held senior posts at Ask.com and BBC where he was head of digital. 02:41 L&D capabilities 04:40 Data 12:46 Experience Design 22:58 Product design 25:45 The Learning Experience 28:32 Learning in workflow 32:48 Big Ideas to avoid 35:26 Performance Myles on Twitter @mylesrun Sponsor Offers: To learn more about Powtoon's Business solution (and claim your Learning Hack discount), visit https://go.powtoon.com/learninghack/ To claim a 25% discount on your first Earthly Systems project, go to https://www.earthlysystems.com/ and quote 'Learning Hack' on the contact form. Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

John Helmer enlists the help of Laura Overton and Miles Runham in summing up the year in learning. Laura Overton was until recently CEO of Towards Maturity, the learning analyst company she founded and led to become a critical resource for people in workplace learning. Laura last year topped the list of learning’s number one movers and shakers. Myles Runham advises organisations responding to the challenges and opportunities created by digital technologies, and has held senior posts at Ask.com and BBC where he was head of digital. 02:16 Myles’s high points and low points 09:36 Laura’s highpoint and lowpoints 12:18 Laura: L&D skills 18:24 John & Myles: M&A activity 26:08 Myles: do we need learning tech to learn? 30:10 What made you punch the air this year; what made you want to punch yourself in the face? 36:12 New Year’s resolutions Laura on Twitter @lauroverton Myles on Twitter @mylesrun Sponsor Offers: To learn more about Powtoon's Business solution (and claim your Learning Hack discount), visit https://go.powtoon.com/learninghack/ To claim a 25% discount on your first Earthly Systems project, go to https://www.earthlysystems.com/ and quote 'Learning Hack' on the contact form. Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

John Helmer talks to Karen E Watkins, Professor and Associate Department Head, Department of Lifelong Education, Administration, and Policy (Adult Education, Learning and Organization) at the University of Georgia, and Victoria Marsick, Professor of Education/Co-Director J.M. Huber Institute Program Director of Adult Learning, Teachers College, Columbia University. Karen and Victoria have worked together for more than 30 years, developed and validated the Dimensions of the Learning Organization Questionnaire used in over 90 published studies, and have published numerous books. 02:20 Introducing Karen & Victoria 07:14 The 5 Dimensions of a learning organisation 11:44 Who is doing well at being a learning organisation? 13:56 Work-based learning 22:16 Learning in workflow 29:56 Can you generalise about learning? 34:58 Who do they rate as learning gurus? 39:12 What is distinctive and different about Reda Sadki's Impact accelerator work? 41:54 How it is being applied in the corporate world? 42:54 What ideas have they seen that are genuinely new? Karen on LinkedIn linkedin.com/in/karen-watkins-25517a16 Victoria on LinkedIn linkedin.com/in/victoria-marsick-46758116 Sponsor Offers
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John Helmer talks to Reda Sadki, CEO of the Geneva Learning Foundation, about the work he has done to innovate in the field of global healthcare, and in particular, with the Impact Accelerator Pilot. The pilot has achieved some spectacular results with practitioners in the field of immunisation, identified as one of the top ten threats to global health in 2019. 06:04 The Impact Accelerator Pilot 09:48 How it worked 18:36 Structure of the programme 22:22 Results of the pilot 24:10 State of the corporate learning market 26:12 The Ebola crisis 27:57 Work-based learning and learning-based work 32:02 What role does tech play in this? 34:56 Learning content 37:08 Applicability to other sectors 39:52 Hopes & fears for global health learning Reda’s links: https://www.flickr.com/photos/gavialliance/ https://www.amazon.com/Informal-Incidental-Learning-Workplace-Routledge/dp/1138884707 https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/15-07-2019-20-million-children-miss-out-on-lifesaving-measles-diphtheria-and-tetanus-vaccines-in-2018 https://learning.foundation/2019/07/01/over-600-professionals-from-53-countries-connect-to-lead-change-towards-global-immunization-goals/https://learning.foundation/2019/05/23/leading-change-from-the-ground-up-300-scholars-from-51-countries-take-up-the-challenge-of-reducing-inequities-and-improving-coverage-for-immunization/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM7I3Igr8qw https://redasadki.me/2017/04/17/learning-technologists-are-obsolete/ https://redasadki.me/2018/03/16/hot-fudge-sundae/ Reda on Twitter: @redasadki Reda on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/redasadki/ Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

Informal and Incidental Learning in the Workplace (Routledge Revivals)

John Helmer talks to Caroline Ford, ex Group Head of Learning at Thomas Cook, the 178 year-old holiday company that went spectacularly broke in September 2019. The company’s financial ills had been putting extreme pressure on L&D funds for many years before that, and Caroline describes with passion her struggles to turn around learning within Thomas Cook on next-to-no budget. 01:48 Collapse of Thomas Cook 02:38 Roots of the collapse 03:50 Effects of the 2012 restructuring on L&D 08:20 The turnaround 18:04 Rebuilding L&D on no budget 26:52 Using Facebook as a no-cost learning platform 35:44 Industry recognition for winning results 37: 44 Top tips for doing L&D on a tight budget Caroline’s 3 tips for L&D without a budget: 1. Understand your business 2. Identify and engage your internal and external stakeholders 3. Really understand your assets

Caroline on Twitter: @Ford_the_Broker And on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/caroline-ford-chartered-mcipd-08826714/ Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

John Helmer talks to David Perring of learning and talent analysts Fosway Group. David is Director of Research at Fosway, an ebullient and popular figure who held senior learning and development posts at NTL and Virgin Media before becoming an analyst. David on Twitter: @davidperring 01:24 What’s an analyst for? 05:36 Are our platforms burning? 09:14 Learning experience platforms 11:02 Do we have a content addiction problem? 14:52 Should vendors be responsible for the processes of learning beyond providing the tech? 16:44 Importance of asking for feedback 18:04 Complex learning 21:26 Is the vendor content market under threat? 29:24 Data and learning 37:04 Can analysts change things? 45:16 Is he more optimistic or pessimistic for the future? Learning Culture Links https://hbr.org/video/5686668254001/the-8-types-of-company-culture https://hbr.org/2018/01/the-culture-factor?referral=00060 Impact of High Performers - McKinsey https://www.mckinsey.com/business-functions/organization/our-insights/attracting-and-retaining-the-right-talent Marshall Goldsmith links https://www.marshallgoldsmith.com/articles/leadership-is-a-contact-sport-an-8-step-leadership-development-model-for-success/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zelwaaRJylw Fosway Infographic for Learning Tech 2019 http://www.fosway.com/research/next-gen-learning/digital-learning-realities-2019/ Preso from Learning Live http://www.fosway.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Fosway-Group-Learning-Technology-Landscape-Learning-LIVE-Sept-2019-FINAL.pdf Contact John Helmer: Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

John Helmer talks to Nick Shackleton-Jones about his book ‘How People Learn’. Nick is an award-winning, influential and controversial thought leader who has held senior learning and development posts at Siemens, BBC and BP. He is now Director, Learning & Performance Innovation at PA Consulting Group. You can buy the book at: https://www.amazon.co.uk/How-People-Learn-Designing-Performance/dp/0749484705 Nick on Twitter: @shackletonjones 01:22 About the book 04:04 Its ambitions 07:16 The affective context model 16:40 Instructional design 22:51 The learner experience 25:30 Learning in the flow of work 28:14 Are things getting better? 31:22 Business and emotion 33:12 Sentiment analysis and AI 37:46 Innovation 40:02 Hardest lesson Nick’s ever learned Contact John Helmer: Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/

How People Learn: Designing Education and Training that Works to Improve Performance

John talks to Cheryl Clemons (LearnerLab, StoryTagger) and Steve Rayson (Kineo, Buzzsumo, Anders Pink) to get insights about how learning people can use marketing techniques to help engage learners. They also address the thorny question of whether and to what extent it makes sense for learning people to think like marketers. TOPICS 01:25 Should you think like a marketer? 10:04 User-generated content (UGC) 13:40 Influencer marketing 16:46 Brand 24:50 Product design 28:24 AI 36:58 Evaluation Steve mentions a tool called Satismeter used for collecting Net Promoter feedback - https://www.satismeter.com

John Helmer talks to Sam Watts of Make Real, who create immersive digital products for learning. You'll hear about the current state of Virtual Reality, Augmented Reality, etc. and how VR is being used for behaviour change, expanded analytics and helping blind veterans see again.

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