Why make art? Angelo sits down with audio-visual pioneer and experimental artist Gary James Joynes (aka Clinker) in this episode of the Something Else Podcast and dives deep in to the creative process, including:

• Why and how Gary sees himself as a visual or audio artist first
• What’s the difference between fine art and commercial art
• Curiosity as the force that drives Gary
• Why it’s critical to create for yourself more than anyone else
• What makes the work worth trying to succeed
• Who’s the most imporant person to make your art for
• What’s the drive behind making art
• Why the creative process in so precious
• Gary’s top secret next project