Guest:

  • Royal Hansen, CISO, Alphabet

Topics:

  • What were you thinking before you took that “Google CISO” job?
  • Google's infrastructure is vast and complex, yet also modern. How does this influence the design and implementation of your security programs compared to other organizations?
  • Are there any specific challenges or advantages that arise from operating at such a massive scale?
  • What has been most surprising about Google’s internal security culture that you wish you could export to the world at large?
  • What have you learned about scaling teams in the Google context?
  • How do you design effective metrics for your teams and programs?
  • So, yes, AI. Every organization is trying to weigh the risks and benefits of generative AI–do you have advice for the world at large based on how we’ve done this here?

Resources:

  • EP75 How We Scale Detection and Response at Google: Automation, Metrics, Toil
  • CISA Secure by Design
  • EP20 Security Operations, Reliability, and Securing Google with Heather Adkins
  • EP91 “Hacking Google”, Op Aurora and Insider Threat at Google
  • “Delivering Security at Scale: From Artisanal to Industrial”
  • SRE book: CHapter 5: Toil Elimination
  • SRS book: Security as an Emergent Property
  • What are Security Invariants?
  • EP185 SAIF-powered Collaboration to Secure AI: CoSAI and Why It Matters to You
  • “Against the Gods - Remarkable Story of Risk” book