This episode is filled with a discussion about pastoral ministry. The conversation specifically revolves around what is the heart behind pastoring, not so much about a 40 hour work week. 

The majority of the conversation is based on the book Five Smooth Stones of Pastoral Work (Eugene Peterson)

This Episodes Contributors:

Danny Gascho

IG: dannygascho

Ben Forsythe

Luke Bosma

IG: Lukecarlbosma