Gail Ollis joins Phil and Matt Godbolt. Gail talks to us about why, after two decades of software development, she took a degree in psychology followed by a PhD that researched the psychology of software development - and how she now uses this to help others get started and, hopefully, avoid many of the human issues that can plague our software projects.

Show Notes News * "Contracts MVP is Feature Complete" - Reddit * "Contracts for C++" Timur's C++ London talk * Gemini refuses to talk about C++ 20 Concepts to someone under the age of 18! + Hacker News thread + Twitch streamer's reaction (ThePrimeTime) * “White House urges developers to dump C and C++” - InfoWorld * Conferences: + C++ on Sea Early Bird tickets and option, CfP closes soon (3rd-5th July) + using std::cpp, Madrid (24th-26th April) + C++ Now (29th April - 3rd May) + ACCU full schedule and volunteers programme (17th-20th April)

Links * "Early Careers Day: A mini-conference for junior developers" - Gail's ACCU 2024 workshop * "The kids are alright" - Gail's ACCU 2024 session showcasing her students * Paper's Gail has co-authored on blending cyber security and software development: + Putting the Sec in DevSecOps: Using Social Practice Theory to Improve Secure Software Development + Dancing, not Wrestling: Moving from Compliance to Concordance for Secure Software Development * "Helping developers to help each other: a technique to facilitate understanding among professional software developers" - Gail's PhD thesis