Doug Gregor joins Phil and Kevin Carpenter. Doug talks to us about his work on Swift at Apple, what the language is like and how it can interoperate with C++.

Show Notes News * "Memory Safety in C++ vs Rust vs Zig" - B Shyam Sundar * C++ under the Sea workshops announced * mp-units 2.2.0 released

Links * "Swift for C++ Practioners" - first in blog series from Doug Gregor * Episode 341, with Dave Abraham talking about Swift/ C++ interop * "Start with a Protocol" - blog post from Rob Napier (but link to Dave Abraham's "Crusty" talk no longer works) * "Option(al) is not a Failure" - Phil's talk about Swift Error Handling * "Option(al) is not a Failure" (yes, same name) - Phil's talk about past, present and possible future C++ error handling * "Swift Concurrency"