DOWNERS: the definitive podcast about sadness, hosted by Jack, Kate, and Hao. Downers is a weekly podcast with an episode released every Wednesday and sometimes Thursday and sometimes, sigh, even Friday if work is really busy.
Follow us on Twitter @downersradio. You can find archives of all our episodes online at http://downersradio.libsyn.com/. Stay safe out there.
(Editor's note: sorry this came out so late. OATS was sunsetting.)
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As a brief aside, many of you who read the episode descriptions over these past four years may think that they are written by one of the hosts; but, in fact, they are written by me, Loam Quigley. I haven't always written podcast episode descriptions—no, I started my life as a street food vendor, selling seasoned slices of agave on the streets of Hyderabad. When dial-up internet became commonplace, I joined an internet forum of likeminded people, who were interested in writing pithy, concise descriptions of audio files. We didn't know it yet, but we were all honing our skills for the rise of podcasting, which would eventually take over our lives and rend our friendships apart. With Downers coming to an end, I'm not sure where the winds will take me next. The Summer Olympics is ending in Tokyo this week. Most athletes will go home, but some, a select few, will fall in love with the city and stay behind to forge new lives and loves. That community of expats will need well-traveled guides to aid them: someone to clean the house, someone to make spiced agave nectar. Someone to describe their podcast episodes. In the meantime, I bid you farewell, dear reader. I have trained a blockchain-based artificial intelligence agent on all 228 of my episode descriptions, and it will be taking over my duties. I hope we will meet again on some other RSS feed some other day. It's been a pleasure to serve you. My name is Loam Quigley, and I love Wednesdays and midnights.
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Remember: Reddit's slogan is A Man's Intuition.™
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Kate's got some questions for Jack and Hao! An inventory is made of the previous year, detailing the times of vulnerability and prosperity. All that, and more, on Downers.
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UPDATE: I uploaded a version with better sound quality.
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(Also, what is Brooklyn 99 going to do about next season?)
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EDITOR UPDATE: I had to fix Hao's audio track, so this might trigger a redownload of this episode.
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Also, Mike Posner walked across America! Jack might walk across America, too?
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p.s. there's a high-frequency buzz on kate's audio track this week. we apologize!
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(p.s. jack's audio is bad in this episode and the previous episode because we need to replace a hard-to-find component)
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We also do a brief discussion of adult chores, and how they make you late to work in the morning. (Case in point: writing this paragraph of copy.)
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Also, we're not sure why last week's episode didn't show up on iTunes and Spotify. We're going to publish this episode and see what happens. Maybe it will fix everything! UPDATE: It was an XML validation error because I used smart quotes. Great.
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BONUS CONTENT: Kate walks you through how to sail a boat.
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Magic! It’s not real. Right? … Right?
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(Hao's graphics card broke so he's writing this without having listened to the episode. I will update this copy as soon as I listen to it on my phone!)
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WARNING: THIS EPISODE ALSO CONTAINS SIGNIFICANT SPOILERS FOR POKÉMON: DETECTIVE PIKACHU (2019)
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EPISODE 112 // Julian Assange has been arrested and is facing extradition. WikiLeaks sits at the intersection of technology and policy and naturally makes good fodder for our podcast. Which is why we instead go on a long rambling discussion about the nature of news and sadness! We also talk about Julian's cat. Where is his meow-meow right now?
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EPISODE 111 // We devote this hour to Jenny Odell's EYEO 2017 keynote talk on doing nothing. How do you do nothing? And what is it like to create art that encourages people to do nothing? We. Find. Out.
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EPISODE 110 // Slack! The unicorn that Silicon Valley fell in love in. We three all use it. If you don’t use it, it’s the work-chat application that people just can’t get enough of. In this episode we critically inspect Slack. Are private channels pernicious? Is giving Slack all your information forever a good move? We. Find. Out.
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IMPORTANT BUSINESS
We now have a VERY active subreddit at /r/downersradio
IMPORTANT BUSINESS CONDUCTED
EPISODE 109 // In honor of our new subreddit, and the concept of spring, we devote the episode to relationship advice! Specifically, sad and funny relationship questions from the digital frontier we know as /r/relationships. Is it OK to barge into your sister-in-law's bedroom? Is it OK to time-shift your baby's milestones? We. Find. Out.
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EPISODE 108 is here and it's kind of scary, no big deal, wait come back. It's about CHILDHOOD FEARS – the irrational bogeymen that plagued us as wee little ones. The ghosts that hid beneath beds and the darkness at the edges of the room. The way a tree tapped the window as the wind blows. The wet kiss of a banshee on your neck, which at first surprises you but then you like it.
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EPISODE 107 // We bring Ian back to talk WOODWORKING and to give an update on HAVING SIBLINGS (see our award-winning episode 3). What's happened in the intervening two years?? We find out.
The great expanse of life stretches before us and we must traverse it together.
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EPISODE 106 // How you read as a child can be very different from how you read as an adult. The quality of reading is different – the books you used to like no longer hold their charm, perhaps, or the act of reading like something you have to purposefully carve out time for. We talk about all this, and more! ON DOWNERS
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EPISODE 105 // Kate's out and Jack's got some thoughts about ANIMAL CONSCIOUSNESS on the old brain. What is consciousness anyway? There's a slight echo for Jack's voice up until minute seven. SKIP PAST IT IF IT BOTHERS YOU. SORRY. Audio engineering is AN ART (?).
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EPISODE 104 // Kate went to an onsen in (温泉) in Japan and she's here to talk about some of the SADNESS involved in these Japanese nude spas. We talk about childrearing! We talk about the vote for public advocate in NYC, which happened on Tuesday!
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EPISODE 103 has an UNUSUAL structure. First we talk about the rise of binge-watched television, using Michael Schur's recent filmography as an example. THEN we talk about making music with the Teenage Engineering OP-Z workstation. Hao's audio was TOO LOUD this record. SORRY.
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EPISODE 102 is all about MEDITATION and VALENTINE'S DAY. Come with us as we dive into the Insight Timer App, the book THE MIND ILLUMINATED, and the very idea of Valentine's Day. We are observing but not labeling. We are fraught and obligatory and affectionate and ostentatious and knotted. These are the words I jotted down into my notes without any context for this week's episode.
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EPISODE 101 // UNRESOLVED MYSTERIES flicker at the edges of our lives. Whether it's UFOs, Bigfoot, or the glitter industry, they're waiting to be resolved and they can't. In this episode we devote the hour to talking about the inherent sadness in real-life stories that never conclude. AND we share some unresolved mysteries from our own lives.
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minute 7: what's ups...
minute 16: anti-describe what's about to happen, insinuating everyone is in the know
minute 22: korean food segment; jap chae.
minute 26: mailbox segment begins; we didn't get mail from anyone and we're sad. we plea for more mail
minute 28: (we've just finished the what's ups) "end of mailbox"; "let's take a break"; transition music for 30s
minute 43: be introspective / creative. creative riff on downers spacetime. end with founding a downers holiday on day 100, that's why it ends in 12s jovial silence.
minute 50: 12s silence (jovial silence); someone's cell phone rings. then an awkward silence 6s.
EPISODE 99 is all about EPISODE 100, which comes out next week! This week we give you an exclusive behind-the-scenes look at how an episode comes together as we generate a minute-by-minute schedule for episode 100. This episode is a MUST LISTEN if you want to understand EPISODE ONE HUNDRED.
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EPISODE 98 is structured around a thesis: Everybody likes blogging, but Jack has problems with it. What kinds of problems? You'll Have to Tune In to Find Out.
We talk about RSS readers and the act of reading a blog, the reason some websites that might be blogs just don't feel like blogs, and the blogs we recommend to people. We talk about the act of blogging, which is more often than not writing for an unknown, silent, possibly zero audience.
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EPISODE 97 is here and it's about RESOLUTIONS. We go over the resolutions we made on last year's podcast and, hey you know what?, we make some more. We talk meditation and dot journaling; we talk media consoles. We do a weird quick dive into Elizabeth Anderson's 1999 paper "What is the Point of Equality?"
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EPISODE 96 // If you live in a country and you listen to Downers, you’re probably wondering… why haven’t the hosts ever said hi to me??? We rectify that mistake in this episode! We have a list of 16 countries that listen to Downers and we’re going to say a special message to each one.
Also we discuss changing the motto of the podcast so that Kate can get a job.
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EPISODE 95 // Enough about Christmas, Enough about Hanukkah, I Want to Know More about BOXING DAY. What is Boxing Day? And what might an unboxingday look like? We find out on this episode! In addition we talk about the nature of servitude (and blogging); in addition addition, some special carolers drop by during the act break.
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EPISODE 94 ("I think that's dystopia, a little") // We devote this episode to a popular mantra – I have enough, I do enough, I am enough. First taught to Kate and Hao in a yoga class, we now dissect this sentence together. We talk nihilism vs. pseudonihlism; we explore the process of breaking hard news to close friends via not one but TWO role plays; we talk sports medicine in Act I for some reason.
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EPISODE 93 ("HE MADE IT SQUARE") // A lot of updates in Update Corner, and then we round out the 45 minutes with a discussion of learning and false learning. Specifically, Duolingo and how feeling like you're acquiring a language is so far from actual fluency; specifically also, how much we miss learning as an adult. Also, we learn the average color of the universe!
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EPISODE 92 // We have a special DECEMBER HOLIDAYS episode. Christmas and Hanukkah are on the docket. We talk Christmas traditions, how to deal with the crass commercialism of the winter holidays, and whether or not we are as a society shoehorning Hanukkah into a box it doesn’t really fit. All that… and a surprise!
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EPISODE 91 // Should Kate have a child just so the child can hold our Hong Kong studio equipment at mouth level? This and other questions this week in a SPECIAL construction NOISE episode. But our main topic is BOXES WE LIVE IN: boxes we put ourselves into by accident or on purpose, and the sadness therein. The word “therein” can end any sentence you cannot think of an ending for therein.
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EPISODE 90 // Well the holidays are upon us and it’s time once again for an UPSIDE DOWNERS. This week we go around and list things we are thankful for. This may SEEM like a thin concept for an episode but in FACT it’s a loose sequel to our early episode where we listed ONE HUNDRED HAPPY THINGS. Also we check in with Kate’s ongoing project where she slowly converts her nice apartment into a full sound studio.
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Episode 89 // We’re talking sleep debt this episode! It affects all of us, and it has a negative impact on our lives. We also talk bed builds, check in with Kate in Hong Kong, and Jack’s street address is muffled by truck sounds.
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EPISODE 88 // When people move or pass on, they leave behind stuff. It can be weird to go through the artifacts of someone's life, picking out which pieces you want to keep. It can be weird to deal with both emotional and literal baggage at the same time. So we devote the hour to STUFF and the INHERITANCE of STUFF. It's another Hao-less episode (sorry guys I was out of the country). Also: MEDITATION CORNER. KATE HAS A CHAIR.
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EPISODE 87 // Seamless: we’ve all used it (maybe). But what’s it like in Hong Kong? And what are other things that we have here like in Hong Kong? And what’s all this kerfuffle about Goober Eats I mean Uber Eats? All this, and lumber, on this episode of Downers. Also Jack’s out so we do a quick segment called “What would Jack’s tapas be?”
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EPISODE 86 // We devote the hour to the sexual and brutal nature of Nature. We talk violence! We talk sex in advertising! We talk about Kate's brand new apartment! Also we have a very good follow-up on the whole deal with Hong Kong. All that... and more!
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EpIsODe 85 // HaS LaTEncY proBleMs ahem has latency problems. We discuss people we would send to meet the president! We nominate subcultures to take over America! In many ways our podcast is reflective of the country it came out of – America. Also we struggle with a laggy internet connection!
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EPISODE 84 // With minimum wage back in the news both overseas and at home, we devote the hour to minimum wage! What other minimum wages should we be allotted? Also: Hong Kong update! Follow-Ups! And we play a brand new game: What are Gray Lips?
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EPISODE 83 // Kate's in Hong Kong, and Jack the Ministry has questions! Hao forgot about the record and couldn't make it. :( We find about the experience of reading U.S. news on a 12-hour offset, how aggressively available Apple Pay is, and Sunday Scaries.
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EPISODE 82 MOMS 1 // [error: description not found]
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EPISODE 81 // Or should I say 81 Episode? In this episode we switch up the format a little bit because it's symmetric in nature! In one direction we have Hao coming to NYC from China, and in another we have Kate going to China from NYC. How will that affect the episode's structure? Will it be a gigantic mess? You will have to tune in and find out!
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EPISODE 80 // We talk about what's new in the world of exercise! Clare Updates, yoga, glasses, swimming, and more!
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EPISODE 79 // Hao has an opinion-editorial for the group!
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EPISODE 78 // We went to the movies and now we’re bringing the movies to you! Kate and Hao both watched CRAZY RICH ASIANS and we give a mostly spoiler-free review. THEN we read the showtimes near Jack and make him guess the plots. What will it take to get Jack to see a movie? All that and more, on DOWNERS.
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EPISODE 77 // Our topic of the hour is PLANNING FOR RETIREMENT. We talked about physically aging and now we’re going to talk about financially aging. Join us as we talk about the expectations for retirement in Hawaiian I mean Western nations. Retirement is sad, but not when you talk about it with good friends. We also spend a long time talking about reality TV on TLC.
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EPISODE 76 // SARA is the guest of the hour. We have three guests in the studio so, once again, the sound quality is IFFY. What do we talk about? We ponder the difficulty of moving to a new place and leaving an old one behind. We also jab about communities and snack strategies on long road trips and putting everything you own into a compact car. Plus a new segment: Is This Animal a Yoga Pose or Not? And another new segment: UTILITIES ARE WEIRD IN HONG KONG.
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EPISODE 75 // This episode takes place in our ears, and it's devoted to Kate's trip to Italy. We talk about the pace of life outside the United States; we talk coffee; we talk about what it is like to live in a place seeped in history; we talk about how difficult it is to get groceries in Pompeii. All this and more!
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EPISODE 74 // With Kate succumbed to illness, Jack and Hao once again try to cobble together enough content to make a cohesive, compelling episode of television I mean podcasts. In this episode we discuss the FIVE WAYS PEOPLE AGE, and it's mostly centered on the different parts of the body. What are all the parts? Well you'll have to tune in to find out. One of them is dirty lips. That one I can reveal right away. I've been authorized to reveal dirty lips right away.
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EPISODE 73 // Follow-ups abound on this episode as we follow up on many of the previous topics we discussed in past episodes. Resolutions, evening tapas, and more! Also it’s a NIGHT RECORD.
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EPISODE 72 // Los Angeles, the City of Angels, is making a serious play at starting a PUBLIC BANK. We devote the hour to this current event. Also: how do you create a society? What’s the easiest way to steal all of Jack’s money? ALL THAT AND MORE.
https://publicbankla.com
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EPISODE 71 // As previewed on our last episode, this week’s episode is about BLOCKCHAINS. Who’s making money off the blockchain? Who stands to win, and who stands to lose? Also, Kate puts herself on the job market! All that… and MORE.
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EPISODE 70 // Kate is moving to Hong Kong and it's making her contemplative about the product subscription industry. More generally we talk about all the comforts and trappings of living at home and then having to move abroad. Also we interrogate Jack about his hiking rollouts; and we follow up on Kate's allergies at the very end.
This episode was posted very late because I had to assemble a 100lb computer desk by myself over the course of two days.
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EPISODE 69 // This hour, we talk about Dr. Francine Patterson’s scientific work with Koko, the gorilla who passed away recently. Fame in science is discussed, snake oil is sold, and words are spelt. We cover the criticism the scientific community has levied against Patterson’s work; we talk about the sexual harassment lawsuit filed against her by her coworkers. At one point a halting description of the scientific method is given. All that and more, and Jack's continued reference to that one test-taking scene in 1997's MEN IN BLACK, on Downers!
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EPISODE 68 // With the eruption at Volcán de Fuego claiming 114 lives this past month in Guatemala, we dedicate this hour to VOLCANOS. We attempt to process our awe of our natural geology; we attempt to confront the very majesty of Earth. Also, at every wedding you should try to make the evening news.
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EPISODE 67 // This week we talk ALLERGIES. We've all got them! How do we cope? Also, we check in with each other after a long period of not recording, including some hot details about Jack's west-coast road trip.
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EPISODE 66 // This week Jack and Kate are gone but in their stead is Chelsea, who is looking for teacher work so contact her via #chelsea on Twitter. Beside that we are talking TAYLOR SWIFT AND KARLIE KLOSS: why they might be in a relationship, why they are definitely in a relationship, and the queer semiotics of Taylor Swift's artwork. Also: Chelsea's long relationship with horses and dogs. We went all over the map. We had a whole hour to fit.
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EPISODE 65 // Gwern.net has published a list of small ways in which ordinary life has gotten better. Wow! That's very much up this podcast's alley! So we discuss, we note, we nitpick. We talk spaced repetition, planned de-obsolescence of planned obsolescence, fake holidays, and phone tag.
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EPISODE 64 // We devote the hour to the life of Sylvia Bloom, a legal secretary who passed away at the age of 96 this month and donated $8.2 million to charity. What was her life like? Is something like this still possible now? Just exactly how many friends did she have brunch with? Also: a special DUMPLING CORNER. All this and more… on Downers!
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EPISODE 63 // We cleared out all the items left on Terrible Things: Spring Cleaning. The elderly! Discourse on the internet! And much more!
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EPISODE 62 // The three of us spent a long weekend in Austin without any internet and we wrote down all the queries we meant to Google. On this episode WE GOOGLE THEM: horses with Cushing's, Taylor Swift conspiracy theories, SEO spam, and more. Only an innovative groundbreaking podcast like ours would insert so many sounds of mechanical keyboard typing into an audio file.
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EPISODE 61 is devoted to two different news articles about Ralph Nimmons, one in 1992 ("Black Is Victim of Beating By Hasidim in Crown Hts." in the New York Times) and one in 2018 ("Cops identify 'shoplifter' who died after grocery workers sat on him" in NY Post, and others). What must have his life been like? Why is it that Crown Heights is such a flash point for race relations in Brooklyn? Join us on the New York City local crime beat!
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EPISODE 60 is devoted to the architectural style known as BRUTALISM – what is it, why can it feel punishing, and how can WE punish the people responsible for inflicting such awful buildings on us. But first an incredible round of heavy downbeat tapas in the morning.
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EPISODE 59 // It's another philosophy episode! We devote Act II of our podcast to David Chapman, the philosopher who wrote meaningness.com (an online book) and has dedicated his life to figuring how to live life with purpose and all sorts of other good stuff. Along the way we talk eternalism and nihilism; like a high-school student angry at his chemistry teacher, we are striking a balance. Also we do a special Clare (April) Corner in Act I. So that's cool too.
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EPISODE 58 // Kate has big news! To find out what it is, you'll have to tune in!
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Episode 57 // It's time once again to pick up our sadness brooms and whisk away items on the list of terrible things. These are items that by themselves would not make a great episode BUT, put together into a single compendium of all things terrible, makes for one corker of an episode. Homophobia! Transphobia! Arachnophobia?? All that and more.
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EPISODE 56 // Once again we have traveled the world to bring you tall and fantastical tales of lands far away, far away from the United States that is, oh her in her glorious amber majesty. What is it about travel that makes us both joyous and nostalgic, sweet yet bitter? Who knows... who knows...
Plugs this week: Fitzyhere on Twitch (Hao) and double proxy hatch Zerg, the 2017 movie Maineland (Kate), CryptoHeads on Twitch (Jack).
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EPISODE 55 // Spring is here and with it is the pressure to be Clean™. Join us as we run through a series of terrible things on Jack’s list. Certain things we could not figure out how to build an entire episode around, and so we’re going to read all of them out in this episode and talk about each other very briefly. How many will we run through? Which ones are we going to be pin for later? Just who precisely is Mammon? All this and more.
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EPISODE 54 // We don’t much about Virtual Reality but we can still be pessimistic about it! This week, we promise to come up with UNIQUE and DYSTOPIC scenarios for VR. We are challenging ourselves to go above and beyond, say, the plot of a BLACK MIRROR episode. Yes you might be tied to a VR pleasure machine forever; yes human interaction might all cease. We. Are. Not. Interested. In Those. Scenarios. What if VR made you vomit in a good way? What if VR lets you get married, but there are strippers at your wedding? What if a dolphin let gas loose into your face? All that, and more, on this episode of Downersssssss.
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EPISODE 53 // What's Elon Musk up to and should be immediately suspicious of his power and wealth? That's the issue of the hour in this week's episode of Downers as we detail all the ways Elon Musk makes us sad. Is he a benevolent Iron Man or is he a specter of American capitalism run rampant? Find out... by listening!
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EPISODE 52 marks the one-year anniversary of our podcast! Our intros have evolved and so has the audio quality; it's all been possible thanks to our lovely listeners. We wanted to use the 52-episode mark to do a MIXED BAG on birthdays, and as always the episode quickly devolves into a surreal mix of etiquette about asking after people's plans and what rhino milk might taste like (grass).
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p.s. we're trying out new production tags at the beginning and the end of the show. they're supposed to sound cool and weird and uh hopefully you like them
Welcome back to the Marx Podcast, where we're just doing it one step at a time. THIS WEEK we pick a Terrible Thing: mental illness! And we also talk about one thing that's causing mental illness, which is techno-determinism. Hao's sorry about his terrible mic technique in this episode -- he was trying to make eye contact with Kate. He also put this episode up pretty late because there's a sprint demo tomorrow and ugh that's a whole thing.
EPISODE 50 IS ABOUT ANARCHY
TYPES OF ANARCHY
ANARCHY AS ILLUSTRATED IN URSULA LE GUIN's THE DISPOSSESSED
IN HONOR OF ANARCHY THIS EPISODE DESCRIPTION HAS BEEN STRIPPED DOWN TO ITS BARE MINIMUM
and not because its author is in a hurry to go to work
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Episode #49 is dedicated to the practice of YOGA and MEDITATION and, possibly, other so-called "Eastern practices." All three of us are dabblers! But we've never talked for a whole hour about it. It's the first in a possibly infinite series we call MIXED BAGS. When something's good... AND bad. We're courageous to even talk about them.
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EPISODE 48 is one day late but that's OK because it's chock full of good content, that most elusive all content. In this special episode Kate reports in from our San Diego West Coast Division. We pick Terrible Thing #11 and it's The Widening Political Divide in America. We talk empathy! We talk Zuckerberg! We talk mass transit! We talk about Chuck Schumer's relationship to his wife vis-a-vis the bike paths on Prospect Park West, a street near Hao.
Plugs this week: waking up to the smell of petrichor (Hao), hot tubs (Jack), BuzzFeeD's "Opportunity Costs" (Kate).
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EPISODE 47 is all about SECESSION, but not before we first APOLOGIZE in a brand new errata segment. We also talk the New York Excelsior team in Overwatch League (Pine; dabbing) and review vegetarian options in New Orleans. This is all in the service of SECESSION -- times in our lives we have taken our marbles and gone home. Hao's voice is extremely phlegmy all episode.
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EPISODE 46 is the second of our two Bradley episodes and it's a Q&A except it's FLIPPED because the asker becomes the answerer with every other question. We cover athlete's foot and foreign-language education and having a career and which roommates Bradley likes. Some questions turn out juicier than we expected. We play Categories with "Furniture."
Plugs this week: my Craigslist listing for my old monitor that I am selling for $150 (Hao), standing up when the rose-gold Apple Watch tells you to (Kate), Awesome Games Done Quick charity (Bradley), Dave Chappelle's New Years specials on Netflix (Jack), and BradleyDufour.com. Everybody leave two comments on Bradley's blog, OK?
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EPISODE 45 // We are joined in the studio this week for the first episode of two with Bradley. You know him from Mailbox Corner and now you know him from this paragraph. Kate has a Follow-Up on resolutions vs. intentions, and we delve into Bradley's love language and whether you can truly love someone who isn't useful to you. Plus... a rousing round of Pie Facts.
Plugs this week: hot water bottles in bed (Kate), co-op game Lovers in a Dangerous Spacetime (Bradley), texting on an iPad (Hao), watching Y Tu Mamá También sans parents (Jack).
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correction: boysenberry is a real berry
EPISODE 44 is dedicated to New Years Resolutions, small and large, personal- and podcast-related, anti- and non-anti-. Happy New Years from Downers!
Hao's levels are too loud in the mix, and he apologizes. He should have figured out how to do levels by now but he hasn't. Don't... don't listen with earbuds I guess.
Plugs this week: future content (Hao), going to the Museum of Chinese in America (Kate), and Chinese names for roads (Jack). Also we debut a new segment in lieu of Final Words!
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EPISODE 43 tells the rise and downfall of A.V. Club (and its sister website The Dissolve) as shakily narrated by Hao. SOME people are saying that this is Hao's Terrible Things #1 but Hao feels that's too close to our original segment's title. He got Roger Ebert's death year wrong but mostly everything else is write not wrong. It's a LONGER story than you THINK it WOULD be. We also learn about what jackfruits are.
Plugs this week: Darn Tough wool socks (Kate); not wearing a top hat (Jack) -- what message are you really trying to say?; UCB Hell's Kitchen, a new theater (Hao).
SORRY THIS WAS POSTED LATE
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EPISODE 42 of Downers is all about winter holiday traditions! What if you picked up a snow globe and you were inside it? When did you figure out Santa Claus was a capitalist myth? How much risk of your house burning down are you willing to accept? What if we just threw a bunch of poems into a trash can? Pull up to the hearth and make a cup of cocoa -- it's podcast time baby.
Plugs this week: inthemoment.io (Kate), Final Fantasy XIV: Dad of Light (Jack), and Food Bank for NYC (Hao).
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EPISODE 41 is a real corker and it's about The Sims video game franchise. We promised we would talk about it and now here it is. Expansion packs! Aspirations, needs! Grinding your career for the career object! Hot Date! The Sims 1 vs. The Sims 4! Hao mis-remembering how why Will Wright made The Sims (his house was in a California wildfire and he had to rebuild it -- look it up)! An ad we wrote!
Plugs this week: A Choy (Jack), poke bowls (Kate), and MoviePass (Hao).
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EPISODE 40 // We pick a terrible thing and it's cyberterrorism! Kate reveals to listeners her major in college! We do a follow-up on something we said previously! This truly is a mustn't-miss episode.
Plugs this week: "Atlanta" (Jack), the Library of America! (Hao), and Patagonia (Kate).
Reach us through the usual ways I uploaded this very late and now I'm off to bed.
EPISODE 39 is a doozy and it's here and it's also an episode. In this episode we invent a new segment, Top of the Morning to You, which is suspiciously similar to our previous segment, What's Up. Then we travel to the distant future to revisit our friends Oxy and Gilgamesh in our ongoing tabletop RPG game. We meet Joey Thunder the City Gardener and Sharing Marbles, mysterious ex-wife of Phantom King. Oh and the Phantom King is there too!!
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EPISODE 38 is a weird one and it's about the theory of post-scarcity economy, when most goods can be produced so efficiently that most goods are cheap and freely available. It's not today but it might be tomorrow! This is "a future potential terrible maybe great thing," and that's straight from the horse's mouth... if Jack were a horse! Happy Thanksgiving!!
Plugs this week: sleeping on a foam mattress (Hao), buying winter clothing from labor-friendly companies like Everlane (Kate, even though she hasn't received her order yet), being a mom and working out with mom fitness videos on YouTube (Jack).
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EPISODE 37 // The Downers gang is back and they've got things to say and the things they say are going into your ears. This episode: Follow-Ups ("What Happens If China Makes First Contact?"), Korean Corner (How to Make Bibimbap), and The Sadness of Antibacterial Soap. It's a grab bag of an episode and it was definitely uploaded at the correct time.
Plugs this week: municipal elections (Hao), Cook Serve Delicious 2 (Kate), DJ Qbert (Jack).
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EPISODE 36 // A lot to cover this episode, which was recorded at night. We have a special never-before-done Follow-Ups: Updates Corner where we check in with Hao's two cubic feet of soil AND a Mailbox Corner from our friend Bradley. Then we plunge into the sadness of breakfasts.
Plugs this week: meeting a witch (Jack), the 2017 movie THE SQUARE (Hao), and Deb Perelman's Smitten Kitchen Every Day (Kate).
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EPISODE 35 // Bing bang boom. Bing bong bung. We discuss mental health off of the List of Terrible Things. Kate recounts her trip to Hong Kong: food, mass transit, mistranslations, and more.
Plugs this week: Jeff Speck's Walkable City (Hao), Disney Tsum Tsum plushies (Kate), and coffee (Jack).
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Episode 34 // Back, by popular demand (we assume), it's TEENAGE WRITINGS II. We have a romantic poem from Jack, a modern take on a fairy tale by Kate, and some weird violent nonsense by Hao. This episode got put up very late because I was trying to replace the power supply unit on my computer at 1 AM and I didn't finish until 4 AM. The audio should at the very least sound less compressed than usual.
Plugs this week! Ann Hui's 2017 "Our Time Will Come" (Hao), maybe you know if you're in California don't set off fireworks (Jack), the Ask Polly advice column on THE CUT (Kate).
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EPISODE 33 // We present and discuss a short mixtape of three songs we like: "Ebb and Flow" by Larry and His Flask, "Do You Realize" by The Flaming Lips, and "Pure Imagination" by Maroon 5. It's another one of our music episodes! Pull up a beanbag and let's spaaaaace oooooout god I gotta stop writing these episode descriptions at midnight.
Plugs this week! The classic video game Tetris Attack (Jack), 2017's new movie "The Florida Project" (Kate), Robert Caro's "The Power Broker" (Hao, again??).
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EPISODE 32 // This week we tackle the list of unsolved problems in philosophy on Wikipedia by hazarding solutions and answers. The tangle of ethics, epistemology, logic, and language are unraveled by this meaty episode. There's an intricate veto system to speed things along. Also in Mail Corner we read Bradley's addendum to our STARK TREK (spelled the way it should be) episode THE INNER LIGHT.
Plugs this week: Nathan Fielder's TV show "Nathan for You" (Hao), 80s music like Tears for Fears or Erasure (Jack), and the board game Secret Hitler (Kate).
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EPISODE 31 // This week we talk about backup plans. We have covered similar ground previously when we talked about apocalypses (twice) but this time we tackle something more realistic: What if you woke up one day and couldn't be who you currently are any more? This premise was very unclear and we didn't do a great job getting on the same page and now you have to listen to the end result. You gotta keep making content!!!
Plugs this week: Night in the Woods (Jack), Tooth and Nail (Hao), and Overwatch (Kate).
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EPISODE 30 // In this episode we convene another Book Club! This week: Kate presents Shel Silverstein's THE MISSING PIECE (1976), a children's picture book. Just how do we translate a picture book to the podcast medium? You will have to listen to find out. We then listen to Johnny Cash's "A Boy Named Sue" (1969), which was written by Shel Silverstein, in a special Songs of Sadness Corner.
Plugs this week: the new Citi Bike stations in Prospect Heights (Hao), Sideway Stories from Wayside High (Louis Sachar, 1978), a new "Ka Boom Boom" catchphrase (Jack), Gardening at the Dragon's Gate (Wendy Johnson, 2008), Night in the Woods (Kate).
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We take care of the mail this week. The mail was wet and we air them out. THEN we pick terrible thing #29 from Jack's list of terrible things and it's... nationalism. Along the way we talk about flags and the pledge of allegiance. Also we say nice things about America.
Plugs this week: concertinas (Hao), rubber plugs (Jack), sunscreen (Jack), encouraging your friends to visit in beautiful months (Kate).
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EPISODE 28 // We are proud to present the first installment of our "Sadness Spacewalk" trilogy, wherein one of us dives into an especially meaningful episode of television. In this hour Jack presents "THE INNER LIGHT" (1992), a high-watermark episode of "Star Trek: The Next Generation" exploring the nature of memory and history. Bonus: Patrick Stewart drops by to deliver sentences that only he could say.
Plugs this week: Warp + Weft women's jeans (Kate), the movie Her (Hao), and "Star Trek: TNG" after the first season (Jack).
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EPISODE 27 // We devote an entire hour to things that make us happy, starting with Rebecca Sugar's song "Here Comes a Thought" from "Steven Universe." Some Wonderful Whims are chosen as we take a look back at the things we listed for ONE HUNDRED HAPPY THINGS (episode 5). Hao briefly defends the consumption of well-prepared beef liver.
Plugs this week: Janette Sadik-Khan's "Streetfight" (Hao), haggis (Jack), Birkenstock women's sandals (Kate).
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EPISODE 26 // What is San Diego and what has Jack overheard while living there? We find out, in a special Overheard in San Diego. It becomes Current Event Corner (Skirting the Edges).
Then we talk about nuclear war.
Plugs this week: USA's spy dramedy "Burn Notice" (Hao), Bongard problems (Jack), watching an entire season of "Top Chef" in two days (Kate, while sick).
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We devote this entire episode to one entry in Jack's terrible-things.txt: the internet as an amoral frontier. Is the internet just a tool? Is it for good? Is it for evil? We fell in love with the internet and the internet broke our hearts. We also talk math.
Plugs this week: vacations with French people (Kate), reluctantly playing Guitar Hero in Chinatown (Hao), and Final Fantasy VII speed-runs (Jack) on Awesome Games Done Quick.
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EPISODE 24 // We take a trip to Future Earth to revisit our old friends Oxy and Gilgamesh. This is part two of our ongoing mini-tabletop RPG game. In this entry you will hear tales of electrical sound equipment being safely set up, speeches (multiple speeches) delivered to teenagers, and feats of great bravery and dexterity. All this and Ooga Chaka, here on Downers.
Plugs this week: Twitter poll results (Kate), sweet gherkin pickles w/ sandwiches (Jack), and Mbubar (sp? Hao).
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EPISODE 23 // We devote this entire hour to sandwiches: veggies, spread, meat, and bread. What do these marvelous snack packs have to say about who we are? In What's Up, birds interact with Jack's pajamas.
Plugs this week: time.is (Jack), sprouts (Jack), book clubs (Kate), librarian scientist Melvil Dewey (Hao).
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EPISODE 22 // We take a foray into YouTube Live's chat boards (people still say chat boards, right?). We ask people what their age, sex, and location are. We talk about people talking about drugs. We listen to Simpsonwave through an iPhone speaker because Hao forgot to match the mono output with the mono input. All this and more!
Plugs this week include: David Sedaris' essay entries Theft by Finding (Hao), a nameless clay/plastic-bag/itchy-plastic-casing heating pad I bought from CVS this morning (Kate) oh and by the way you have to use it with a towel because it is very itchy, and the YouTube video "Sunday School" and the song "Teen Pregnancy" (Jack).
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EPISODE 21 // The animals in San Diego are committing suicide and by gosh if we aren't going to say something about that. Work pants are making ampersands, and there might not be enough ramps. We pick a Terrible Thing and devote the back half of the episode to it: <>.
Plugs this week: SEF.org (a public-access Unix system), making your voice heard and calling your representatives, and Ursula Le Guin.
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EPISODE 20
This episode is our return to form. We dedicate this entire hour to KOREAN FOOD, a small but nonetheless important part of this podcast's premise we've long ignored. A handful of Korean restaurants are reviewed and then assigned white cabbage leaves. In Mail Corner we pore over news of Beatrice and corners. We also talk about cartography, extensively.
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EPISODE 19
In this episode we abandon the traditional format of the show to play a mini-tabletop RPG called MECHANICAL ORYX (by one Grant Howitt), winner of the 2017 200-Word RPG Challenge. Join Oxy (Kate) and Gilgamesh (Jack; no relation to the actual Gilgamesh) and Omniscient Impartial Narrator (Hao) as they journey through the ruins of a once-great Earth.
This episode of Downers is brought to you by random.org. Warning: This episode contains a light amount of body-shaming humor, but it is done in character and the emotional reactions it provokes are both sincere and honest. Also, at one point Kate reference-snipes Beyonce's Lemonade; it's great and it's my fault I didn't pick up on it.
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In this action-packed episode we take a trip down memory lane in Update Corner, where we revisit hashtag dad couplets and Fermi's paradox. Then we spent the rest of the hour tackling the heady controversial world of FAKE NEWS. What is fake news? Where does it come from? Does it necessarily involve babies? These are but just a few of the questions we never get around to answering.
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Downers is a production of Only Children, Inc. Podcasts made by children without siblings, for children without siblings.
We promised it and now it's here! In this travel-themed podcast we journey to Sweden, Canada, North Korea, China, and beyond. We also carve out time at the top of the show for Kate to respond to last week's You Mold It, You Sold It! madness.
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Jack and Hao structure an episode around, like, a half-pun? We talk Neutral Milk Hotel and tell stories about ... mold ... from our lives. At the end we pitch ideas for a THEME SONG.
Editor's Note: when we come back from the break we make a reference to talk of suicide in Act I. We did in fact talk about 13 Reasons Why in the original recording, that Netflix show about suicide, but neither one of us could come up with the correct title of that show so Hao cut all of it out. Hao, for the record, hates the show.
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This week we devote the entire hour to talking about one short story by John Cheever in a special, extra-sad edition of Book Club. Plus, there's mail from Bradley in Mailbox Corner!
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On this week's episode of Downers we check in with Jack's adventures in composting, read our listener's feedback in Mailbox Corner, and discuss the multiple immense islands of trash in the Pacific Ocean. We pick a terrible thing from Jack's list and it's Silicon Valley tech culture.
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The Downers kids are at it again. On this special 13th episode we dive into THE SUPERNATURAL. We argue about luck. We argue about aliens.
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In What's Up, we find out Jack is a Butter Boy and Hao is a Butter Man. We pose hypotheticals to each other in a brand new segment we call Would You Rather? We pick a terrible thing and it's the botched deinstitutionalization of psychiatric patients in the United States.
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The science door parts and fog whorls outward, revealing two experimental segments you have never clapped eyes onto before. In the first act we Talk Cars in a segment we call Car Talk: scheduling cars, buying cars, burrowing into cars. In the second act we take a journey to Infrastructure Junction as we tackle the ransomware attack on the National Health Service.
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It's finally happening. Jack is moving to San Diego so this his last Brooklyn recording. In Book Club Corner we read the preface to "Let Us Now Praise Famous Men." After the break we discuss the ineffable sadness of change.
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On this very special episode, the co-founders of Only Children, Inc. talk about what it's like to be an only child. Joining us in the studio is our siblinghood expert Ian! Ian is a brother to three sisters. What is that like? Jack, Hao, and Kate find out. We talk vacations, wills, fighting, and fairness.
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Jack and Hao are joined by the hosts of "Good Goods," Michelle and Pirijan! They talk Totoro and play a song from the soundtrack. A terrible thing is chosen and it is the boredom of early adulthood. In Kate's Corner Michelle and Pirijan talk Korean food and bad design.
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This week on Downers we throw the usual format out the window. We instead dive headfirst into the only two things certain in life: DEATH and TAXES.
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A letter from our beautiful listeners is read. A wonderful and terrible thing is chosen, and it is the end of the world. We talk adulthood. In Kate's Corner Jack and Hao debate retreat locations and college bears.
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JACK AND HAO MUST DO THE IMPOSSIBLE
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Jack and Hao talk about Mamma Mia (2008). In Songs of Sadness they listen to Arcade Fire. Jack, Kate, and Hao share poems they wrote as teenagers in a special new segment. In Kate's Corner we talk about the distant future.
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Jack and Hao taste Hao's homemade kimchi. A terrible thing is chosen and it's the prison-industrial complex. We talk about what to say to a sad person. In Kate's Corner we talk about places we've cried.
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Jack and Hao talk about George W. Bush's painting hobby. We pick a terrible thing from Jack's list and it's poverty. In Kate's Corner we talk about erotic poetry and book pie. Hao is wrong a lot.
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Jack and Hao have five questions for each other. A terrible thing is chosen and it's fascism. In Kate's Corner we discuss humblebrags and why this podcast exists.