Isaac Kirkman is a writer and poet. In addition to working with words and a fair amount of border activism, walking is a large part of Isaac's life—he doesn't drive and never has. People who walk long distances look at cities in fundamentally different ways than drivers, public transit riders, or cyclists. They see more detail, obviously, but they also have access to different spaces and can spot patterns in the urban fabric. I hope to be talking to (and walking with) a fair number of them as Tucsonense unfolds. On a 109º July afternoon, I joined Isaac for a six hour walk around Tucson. We talked about the city and the essence of place, writing and cartels, but we also talked about how Tucson fits within his personal narrative. Then, because six hours of walking wasn't enough, we went on another walk a few weeks later. I didn't record everything but I recorded a lot and edited more.