Another inspiring conversation on the Zero to 5000 Podcast today. We were joined by Ron Callis the founder and CEO of One FireFly.

We discussed:

• Why learning that you're not always right and being brave enough to ask for others opinion of how they view you
• The continued theme from all our guests - niche down until it hurts
• How to train yourself to take pain, in business and life, which will lead you to do whatever it takes to win

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