Another inspiring conversation on the Zero to 5000 Podcast today. We were joined by Stephen, co-founder and CEO of Phobio.

We discussed:

• How failing in life leads you to getting ahead
• Why being protective of your time is one of the best things you can do as a leader
• Company culture is not scooters and beer kegs, it's real values that drive a team.

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