Cloud Wars Live with Bob Evans: Recent Episodes
Bob Evans
After four years as Oracle's Chief Communications Officer, Bob Evans left to start his own company and launched the Cloud Wars franchise, which analyzes the major cloud vendors from the perspective of business customers. In Cloud Wars Live, Bob talks with both sides about these profoundly transformative technologies. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I analyze the extraordinary RPO growth at Microsoft, Oracle, Google Cloud, and AWS and what it signals about AI demand.
Highlights
00:03 — We've got another example here where, in the greatest growth market the world has ever known, we are working with some big numbers that put the law of big numbers to the test here. So, if you look at the four hyperscalers, and I go in order of the size of their backlog or RPO, you've got Microsoft, Oracle, Google Cloud, and AWS.
00:29 — So this is fully committed business. It's fully contracted and not yet recognized as revenue. So this is what's coming down the road, to look into the pipeline, in the future, these companies have — this isn't some guesstimate of what they hope they'll get. This is signed, contracted business. So this is one of the factors, probably the key factor, behind why you see these CapEx numbers approaching or exceeding $200 billion.
01:09 — Now that has led to a couple of these companies entering into the debt markets to try to fund this data center expansion and all that enormous CapEx outlay that they've got to go through. In turn, a couple of these companies for a quarter or two had negative cash flows, and that's got some people on Wall Street unable to comprehend it. The world's coming to an end. What are we going to do?
01:46 — I think the perspective is being switched here, right? Traditionally, the idea is bad. You don't want to have negative cash flow. Okay, that's pretty basic. I think we got that. The difference is there have never been a market with a size, a total addressable market , anything like this, growing at the rate this is. Look at these latest numbers for the four hyperscalers.
02:23 — Oracle, off a much smaller revenue base, has this huge future business coming in: $638 billion in RPO, growing at 363%. Google Cloud had a huge jump this past Q2, $514 billion in backlog, up 390%, and a resurgent AWS posted its biggest backlog number ever, $496 billion, and I believe that growth rate of 154% for its backlog is much higher than any they've reported over the last five or six quarters.
04:07 — So I think it's significant, but I also think it's being vastly overblown. I just want to say one more time: $2.3 trillion. Now, that's not like a TAM figure. Somebody's saying, "Oh, we think the market for new scooters is going to be $2.3 trillion." These are four companies, just four , not the whole tech industry, and these are their signed, contracted, committed figures for what they've got in their backlog or RPO.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I compare Google Cloud, Microsoft, and AWS to reveal which hyperscaler is winning the most new business.
Highlights
00:15 — While all of them had terrific quarters, I'd have to rate it this way: Google Cloud was far and away the best. AWS had a terrific quarter, especially for the way it had been performing before that. Microsoft, at its phenomenal size, had a very good quarter. It's just not growing as quickly, not winning as much new types of business in that way, as the other two.
01:44 — So we had Microsoft go from $54.5 billion to $59.3 billion. So it added $4.8 billion in new revenue in Q2. For Google Cloud, $20 billion to $24.8 billion; it also added $4.8 billion. AWS, $37.6 billion to $42.2 billion. It added $4.6 billion.
02:32 — Yet Google Cloud gained as much new revenue last quarter as Microsoft did, and Google Cloud gained more new revenue than AWS did. So we find that the mix of products and services, the fit to what businesses need right now, Google Cloud is matching what Microsoft's doing, matching or exceeding what AWS is doing. So the size differential is becoming less significant now.
03:27 — What we see with this analysis of the numbers is that Microsoft is not continuing to extend that size differential. The others are chopping into that, and particularly for Google Cloud, at this size and with its growth rate, we see that happening. So, you know, how is this possible? And I think it all comes down to this notion of, you know, the customers have a terrific set of choices here.
05:02 — But in terms of — you look right here, right now — the new business that Google Cloud is winning, they are matching or beating their competitors here, and I think we're going to see that continue with the momentum that Google Cloud has.
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In today's Cloud Wars AI Minute, I explain how Microsoft's AI agent momentum could transform business applications at scale.
Highlights
00:00 — So we're now hearing, according to Microsoft, that it has 40 million agents deployed now in the Microsoft ecosystem. Now compare that to the 30 million seats that it actually has sold for the M365 Copilot, and that really starts to show us that AI agent creation and things of this nature are starting to take off when we're starting to see more than one-to-one ratios here.
00:33 — So this is a really big situation for Microsoft. It's actually a really good signal that custom agents and agents that are being built are starting to get more value off the backside. Now we can't necessarily completely get to this level because what you'll see is a lot of these agents are probably really simple right now.
00:54 — But with some of the new applications coming out and the focus that Microsoft also came out and announced — that they are looking at going through and producing a Super App Copilot — and this was something that Satya Nadella just talked about in the news just last week.
01:13 — So when we think about this and we start thinking about how is it that Microsoft's going to start combining all of its different Copilot assets or its AI agent assets, it really opens up a door where we might start seeing a much bigger multiplier effect happening on the number of agents created.
01:32 — Due to the fact that they're going to make it not so confusing to be able to determine where to get started and be able to help you get this all down. So this is really exciting news, and it's really a good thing for why you should start looking and understanding these agents because they're really starting to take off as business applications themselves.
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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I break down Microsoft’s push to protect open-weight AI models and why the debate over openness could shape the future of the AI ecosystem.
Highlights
00:09 — Microsoft is among more than 20 tech companies, including NVIDIA, Meta, and Palantir, that have issued an open letter urging U.S. lawmakers to slow down in placing restrictions on open-weight AI models. These are models that users can modify and run on their own infrastructure.
00:38 — The backlash from the companies comes in light of discussions within the U.S. government about potentially restricting access to Chinese open-weight AI models in the U.S. The administration's floated the idea of potential restrictions or sanctions involving Chinese open-weight models around concerns about copying other AI models, intellectual property theft, and national security.
01:06 — The tech companies that signed the letter argue that open-weight models strengthen competition, and with technology benefits broadly shared instead of being concentrated into a few hands, and that, in fact, relying entirely on closed models is not inherently safe because they can be breached, misused, or fail in ways that outsiders can't detect.
01:30 — They say that keeping AI advancements in a small circle of companies just compounds that risk. Sharing the letter on his personal X account, Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella said, "Open-weight models are essential to a healthy AI ecosystem. Together with others across our industry, we are outlining a path for open-weight models to strengthen American competitiveness and expand economic opportunity while protecting national security."
02:14 — This is yet another example of how the democratization of AI is being promoted by tech companies. In my opinion, the idea of collaboration and openness has made it much easier for the public to trust AI. Not only does this strengthen the position of the companies themselves, but it also means that more people will benefit safely and securely from the potential of AI technologies.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I look at why Palantir's AI strategy is resonating with customers and disrupting the software industry's established order.
Highlights
00:03 — Well, we had a fascinating earnings report and earnings call with Palantir recently. A couple of things happened. Its growth rate soared. It almost doubled its growth in Q2, up 93% to over $1.8 billion.
00:19 — But intriguingly, the story behind this growth now is one that CEO Alex Karp is doubling down on, and that is to cut directly against the grain of how traditionally the software industry has worked. He feels that there's too much power being consolidated among the tech vendors, particularly now the AI labs and the AI model companies.
00:55 — Now, is there a direct correlation between the 93% growth rate and this refreshing, new, different customer-oriented approach from Palantir? I think there is. Whether you think Karp's antagonism toward the entrenched order is overblown or not, you've got to look at the financial results. Palantir is outperforming every major tech vendor on Earth.
02:36 — What Karp is promising, he said, what Palantir is offering, is a new, better way that allows customers to keep control of that data, keep the benefits of that data, keep what he calls the alpha, and let them control their own outcomes instead of turning over their data to model companies.
04:36 — I just find myself throughout the call listening and watching Karp, who always wears a white T-shirt. He is just completely unabashed in not holding back and stating his opinions. I think we need more of that in this business, especially at these very critical times when businesses are betting their futures on what's going to happen here.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I break down OpenAI's decision to make GPT-5.6 the preferred model for Microsoft 365 Copilot and why AI efficiency is becoming an increasingly important competitive advantage.
Highlights
00:09 — It's fair to say that OpenAI has had a changeable relationship with Microsoft over the past few years. However, ties between the two companies have always remained strong. To that end, OpenAI has announced that GPT-5.6 has become the preferred model in Microsoft 365 Copilot, which includes Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Copilot Chat, Teams.
00:33 — Now, for context, this is OpenAI's latest flagship model, which the company claims delivers higher quality outputs and stronger performance per dollar spent, and this efficiency is increasingly important as more work shifts to AI models.
00:58 — For Excel, there'll be deeper data analysis and faster insights in PowerPoint. Copilot will be able to create more polished presentations with less manual effort. Meanwhile, Copilot Chat benefits from GPT-5.6's improved reasoning and productivity capabilities for everyday tasks.
01:28 — For me, though, the biggest benefit is this idea of improved efficiency — the notion of getting the most out of every token and gaining more value from the tools you're using. I think this will become a new battleground moving forward, not just for model developers who balance power and budget friendliness, but also for providers of AI tools like Microsoft, who need to show their customers that they're making the best choices in how these products are powered.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I break down the reshuffled hyperscaler rankings and what AWS's comeback means for the AI economy.
Highlights
00:03 — The third hyperscaler reported its numbers late last week. That was Amazon's AWS unit. Fantastic quarter for AWS. Best in four or five years. It had what I called an awesome Q2, and in doing so, we've seen a complete reshuffling of the growth standings among the hyperscalers.
01:18 — Microsoft, for the same period, its fiscal Q4 grew 27% to $59.3 billion, and Google Cloud was up an incredible 82% to almost $25 billion. We see Google Cloud and now AWS on a very nice continuous upswing, while Microsoft has leveled off.
03:05— Inside AWS, the backlog soared, up 154% to almost $500 billion. Andy Jassy said Amazon will spend in 2026 $220 billion on CapEx, almost all of which will go toward building the data centers necessary to fund this expansion in cloud and AI.
04:19 — The smallest backlog number of the four hyperscalers is AWS at $496 billion. Microsoft is around $675 billion, Google Cloud is $514 billion, and Oracle is about $636 billion. Together they represent well over $2 trillion in backlog.
05:12 — I think it's great seeing AWS back in high-growth mode. It makes the competition better, and it certainly is a great thing for customers, who now have choices of fantastic suppliers across the four hyperscalers: AWS, Google Cloud, Microsoft, and Oracle.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I examine why SAP's biggest competitive challenge may soon come from OpenAI and Anthropic rather than traditional enterprise software rivals.
Highlights
00:00 — SAP released its Q2 numbers last week, and a couple of interesting things happened there. First of all, strong Q2 cloud revenue growth, 24%. But even higher than that was its backlog growth, which went up 26%. CEO Christian Klein tied that specifically to the company's transformation, started about two years ago, to shift more and more of the sales effort from the direct channel to the indirect channel.
00:56 — It had resellers whose big concern a number of years ago was, "Well, what margin am I going to get? What discount do I get?" Today, the focus, through the efforts of Chief Partner Officer Karl Fahrbach and Klein, has shifted very, very much toward, "How do we get successful outcomes? How do we ensure these AI deployments happen smoothly, rapidly, and effectively at the customer site?"
01:29 — It's about $7.2 billion. Within that, the Cloud ERP Suite was up 27% to $6.4 billion, and the current cloud backlog, that 26% jump, pushed it to $26.3 billion. It said growth for full-year 2026 will be somewhere between 23% and 25%. I've penciled it in here as 24%, and that will come in right at about $30 billion.
02:28 — Klein said, "The growth for our indirect channel in Q2 again significantly outpaced our direct channel growth," and this reflects, he said, a successful go-to-market transformation. He has revised the company's leadership, its product portfolio, the impression the market has about ERP and what SAP Cloud ERP means, and how the whole notion at the highest level of the autonomous enterprise sinks in.
04:20 — Now there's enterprise applications, agents, AI, and data vendors, and this growth streak it's had in the mid-20s has been very impressive. So the biggest challenge SAP has going forward will come, in some form that's unclear right now, from OpenAI and Anthropic, and exactly how those they are going to parlay their early focus on models into the whole agentic AI movement in the agents and workflow space.
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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I explore OpenAI’s bold move into AI-powered consumer hardware and what it reveals about the future of trust in artificial intelligence.
Highlights
00:03 — OpenAI is adding yet another string to its bow as it becomes increasingly recognized as more than just its flagship ChatGPT product. Now, the company is reportedly developing its first consumer hardware device: a human-like AI companion that lives in the home.
00:21 — The report suggests that OpenAI is creating a portable, screenless AI smart speaker, not the AI phone that many people are expecting. As you might expect, the device will integrate with ChatGPT and handle questions, send messages, play media, and enable smart home controls.
00:38 — All pretty comparable to the existing smart speakers on the market, like Amazon’s Echo. However, OpenAI’s device is also expected to include cameras and sensors to get a better understanding of where it is and the context. While mechanical moving elements will give it more presence. Over time, the AI will learn about its owner and become increasingly personalized.
01:01 — Now, beyond the obvious—and by that I mean OpenAI’s potential foray into consumer electronics and all the potential battles that might start between the leaders in that space—there’s something really interesting about the ambition here and what it says about where we are today. Not long ago, the discussion was all about trust.
01:21 — Could we get consumers to trust AI enough to get the most from it? Looking at this investment, I think the answer is yes. This is an AI that not only observes and listens to its owner, but actively changes to adapt to their likes, dislikes, and personalities, passively and without waiting for requests. This is a big jump.
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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I compare Microsoft’s latest cloud results with Google Cloud’s accelerating momentum.
Highlights
00:09 — Microsoft Cloud revenue was almost $60 billion for the quarter, up 27%. The RPO, as I said, was up 84%. It’s now the biggest RPO total, slightly ahead of Oracle. Microsoft Cloud: $678 billion for that. It said that Azure revenue was up 43% and that its revenue for the fiscal year ended June 30 exceeded $100 billion for Azure.
01:46 — So if we look at the last five quarters from Microsoft, the growth rate: 27%. Starting in Q2, the present, going back five quarters: 27%, 29%, 26%, 26%, 27%. So relatively flat over that period of time. The 29% jumped up a little, but the others, all 27s and 26s.
02:14 — Over those same five quarters, Google Cloud’s growth rate has absolutely soared, and the trajectory, the arc of its growth, representing customer demand in the marketplace, has been remarkable. So again, starting from the just-finished quarter and going backward in time: 82%, 63%, 48%, 34%, and 32% growth rates.
02:49 — What we’re talking about here is the arc of the growth. Google Cloud is getting a much bigger share of what’s happening here. It’s winning more business. It’s taking deals away from Microsoft, AWS, and perhaps Oracle as well, and they’re winning a lot of new business.
04:40 — So we’ll get AWS numbers later today. I’ll be following up next week with some insights into that and give the head-to-head comparison. It is an extraordinary time, but the ultimate truth is coming from the customers and where they are deciding to make their investments as they move into the AI Economy.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I look at Microsoft's strategy for balancing AI innovation with local governance, culture, and national control.
Highlights
00:04 — I want to start today with a quote from Natasha Crampton, Microsoft's Chief Responsible AI Officer. "AI sovereignty doesn't mean doing it alone." This quote stands out from an interview she recently gave on the sidelines of the UN AI for Good Summit in Geneva.
00:48 — Ultimately, Crampton, echoing Microsoft's stance, stated that nations should leverage the best global AI technologies while ensuring they're adapted to local laws, languages, cultures, and values. Crampton explains that AI sovereignty is about control, not isolation. It's about cross-border coordination whilst making sure that countries retain control over how AI is deployed, governed, and used.
01:18 — One of the main problems that Crampton highlights regarding AI sovereignty is how AI is widening the gap between developed and developing economies. She says we cannot let the digital divide become an even greater AI divide. She emphasized the importance of making these technologies more accessible to the Global South.
01:43 — She says that AI sovereignty is about making sure that local impact, local cultures, values, and norms are prioritized within AI systems while taking advantage of global technology. AI becomes far more valuable when it understands local languages and cultures rather than simply translating from English.
02:15 — Overall, Crampton laid out a clear and, I'd say, pretty unique vision for what AI sovereignty can be. It's also a clever position for Microsoft to take, saying to governments that choosing Microsoft doesn't mean giving up sovereignty because they can control the data, the governance, and the policies on Microsoft's global platforms.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I examine why Google Cloud's explosive growth is redefining the competitive landscape ahead of Microsoft and AWS earnings.
Highlights
00:03 —We have earnings results coming up later this week from both Microsoft and AWS. Microsoft on July 29, and AWS on July 30. So, that'll give us some nice comparisons to the stunning Q2 that Google Cloud reported last week. Google Cloud will be outgrowing AWS by somewhere between two and a half times at the high end, and at least two times on the low end.
01:02 — Over the last several quarters, Jassy has alluded to Google Cloud, not by name on earnings calls, but he said, "We've got some companies throwing up these fancy high growth rates." What we see with these growth rates is the customers expressing their vote. They are the ultimate arbiters in this decision about who's the hottest company. That's expressed in growth rates.
02:23 — I'm comparing Q2 here for Google Cloud versus Q1 for AWS because, right now, the Q2 numbers aren't out yet. AWS grew at 28%. Google Cloud grew 82%. Say AWS reports this massive acceleration to 40%. They would still be outgrown by Google Cloud by 2X. My guess is AWS's growth rate will come in somewhere around 30% or 31%.
03:22 — It is becoming a little tiresome for these bigger companies to say, "We're bigger than them. Of course, they have a higher growth rate." The customers are voting here. These growth rate disparities are so important because they tell us how the different vendors are doing in the marketplace through the eyes and wallets of customers.
04:01 — In the Cloud Wars, the customers are always, always the big winners. Microsoft and AWS are growing their cloud businesses in the range of 30%, which is astonishing. But Google Cloud posted 82% revenue growth and backlog growth of almost 400% to over $500 billion. By the numbers, Google Cloud is the king of the hill right now.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I look at why playing to win — not playing it safe — is becoming the defining strategy for AI and cloud leaders.
Highlights
00:01 — Last week, we talked about Google Cloud's extraordinary Q2, with revenue up 82% to almost $25 billion, backlog up almost 400% to $514 billion. I wanted to talk today a little bit about a challenge that Google Cloud and the other hyperscalers are facing, because this extraordinary growth requires very aggressive investments in CapEx to build out data center capacity.
00:58 — Will these companies continue to have the courage to play to win, as opposed to trying to appease rattled investors? Right after Alphabet reported these numbers, Alphabet also had to say that its CapEx budget for 2026 is going to go up slightly to about $200 billion, while Q2 cash flow was negative $5.9 billion.
01:49 — But it's not a long-term trend here. The market reaction was they hammered Alphabet stock, and its market cap went down $250 billion after Google Cloud reported this. My point is, you've got to keep a clear head in these crazy sorts of times, and I think Alphabet is doing exactly that. Sundar Pichai cited immense opportunities during the Q2 earnings call and talked about the complete AI stack.
02:56 — They believe these investments they're making now are going to pay off with significantly more data center capacity next year. In the short term, Google Cloud is going to tap into some third-party data center capacity, Pichai said, as one of the ways to take care of customers. They're willing to trade that very short-term pain for enormous contracts down the line.
04:09 — It's a wild time here, but definitely, as I've said many times, this is the greatest growth market the world has ever known. These big hyperscaler companies are now faced with challenges that no company has ever had to face before. I applaud the Alphabet leadership for playing to win rather than playing not to lose. That's just not going to cut it in the Cloud Wars.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explain how Salesforce's latest MCP announcement advances Marc Benioff's vision for AI-first enterprise collaboration.
Highlights
00:03 — Salesforce has announced the introduction of new MCP servers that connect Slack to Salesforce CRM, Tableau, Data 360, and third-party AI tools. Now, these new servers have enhanced Slackbot, which is Slack's personal AI agent, enabling it to serve as a conversational interface for tasks across the Salesforce ecosystem.
00:29 — The headline for the press release about this announcement really summarizes it very well: "Slackbot can now do anything Salesforce can — just ask." Salesforce users can now view and update Salesforce records, run automations, access custom data without leaving Slack, and just using natural language. Users can query Tableau dashboards and analytics.
00:55 — Data 360 integration now enables Slackbot to access customer data for better responses and context-aware responses. Slackbot can now orchestrate work across multiple AI agents and enterprise apps, including partners like Anthropic, Atlassian, DocuSign, and Zapier. And the whole thing can be centrally managed by admins with built-in authentication and security.
01:22 — These Salesforce-hosted MCP servers are now generally available for all Enterprise Edition organizations and above. So what's the vision here? Well, Kris Billmaier, EVP and GM of Sales Cloud, explained, "Salesforce Sales Cloud in Slack is the future of how revenue teams work," he said.
01:55 — "AI is changing what it means to sell, and putting Salesforce intelligence and data inside Slack, where sellers already live, means teams stop chasing context and start driving growth. That shift is happening now, and we're right at the center of it." Ultimately, Salesforce is now positioning Slack as the primary workspace for AI-powered collaboration.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I show why Google Cloud is setting the pace in the AI economy despite Microsoft's and AWS's larger scale.
Highlights
00:03 — Well, we thought we had seen some big numbers in the Cloud Wars over the last few quarters, but Google Cloud for Q2 absolutely blew the numbers away. Astonishing: revenue up 82% to almost $25 billion, and its backlog up 390% to $514 billion.
01:39 — From Q1 to Q2, Google Cloud's revenue jumped $4.8 billion. That's far larger, not only than what Google Cloud has done quarter to quarter, but Microsoft and AWS. I believe, looking pretty closely over a long period of time, for any of those companies to have a $3 billion increase quarter to quarter has been remarkable.
02:16 — I've got an article offering some highlights from this, and also side-by-side-by-side comparisons of the growth that Google Cloud, Microsoft Cloud, and AWS have each posted over the past five quarters. What makes Google Cloud stand out is the arc of its acceleration. It is much, much steeper, much higher.
03:18 — Q4, Google Cloud really broke away from the pack: 48% growth in Q4, 63% growth in Q1, and here now for Q2, 82%. Just absolutely remarkable, and I think we see that among the hyperscalers, and perhaps others as well, Google Cloud is clearly the AI leader.
04:32 — While Microsoft Cloud and AWS have bigger revenue numbers, Google Cloud is the one setting the pace, winning more customers, winning new business, and setting the pace with technology, go-to-market innovation, and the confidence, in large part delivered by the remarkable security business it's built, that it can handle everything that customers need as they move into the AI economy.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I look at how Microsoft is helping schools move from AI experimentation to effective deployment.
Highlights00:08 — There isn't a sector that AI hasn't impacted, and with the proliferation of these technologies, it's important to examine individual sectors and analyze the effect of AI on them, both positive and negative.
00:23 — To understand where things are working and where they aren't. And that's what Microsoft has done with its 2026 "AI in Education" report. I want to share some of the key findings from that report with you today. Ultimately, AI has become mainstream in education, with 92% of students and education leaders, and 88% of educators, having used AI for school-related purposes.
00:60 — Adoption is increasing. In fact, 58% of education leaders report that their institutions are already implementing or scaling AI initiatives. According to the report, the biggest gap identified is the need for training, with both educators and students requesting more structured support. In fact, 66% of educators want AI training on a monthly or quarterly basis.
01:15 — While 52% of students are also seeking regular AI training. The priority highlighted in the report is responsible AI use, with 41% of students and 42% of educators citing academic integrity as a leading concern. Now, in response, Microsoft has announced new AI capabilities across Microsoft 365 Education and its broad education platform.
01:40 — These include AI-assisted unit planning for teachers, student AI guidelines, learning groups, enhanced classroom experiences in the Learning Zone, Copilot Notebooks, and a Study and Learn agent in Copilot Chat. The overall message from this research is that the focus in education is shifting from access to AI to its responsible deployment, with improvements needed in training, governance, and classroom-ready tools.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I examine why Google Cloud and Palantir have become the fastest-growing companies in enterprise AI.
Highlights
00:01 — Now that we are more than halfway through the year, we've got Q2 earnings season coming up, and a couple that I'm looking for in particular are Google Cloud and Palantir because their growth rates have been so much above the norm. I think what we see in those growth rates and in the numbers behind those is a reflection of what customers really want from AI and the cloud here in the AI revolution.
00:52 — Let's look at numbers for Google Cloud, the number one company on the Cloud Wars Top 10. Palantir is number five. For Google Cloud, in the quarter ended a few months ago, March 31, its growth rate was 63%. Its revenue was $20 billion. Q4: 48%, $17.7 billion. Going back to Q3: 34%, Q2: 32%, and Q1: 28%. So we see, for the last five quarters, Google Cloud has soared over the last couple of quarters
01:57 — Now let's look at Palantir with those same five quarters, going back to Q1 of 2025, and up through Q1 of this year. So, most recently, 85% growth rate with over $1.6 billion in revenue, 70% before that, 63% before that, 48%, 39%. So in both cases, we see the company, even as its revenue base gets bigger, growing much, much faster moving forward.
03:22 — Palantir is 24 years old. This is not a startup company, although it's just sort of burst onto the scene. I wonder if, in some ways, Palantir's technology was out ahead of where the market was. But now that the AI boom has swept the world, Palantir's technologies are now suitable for companies of any size to help take what they have and use that as a foundation to build into the future.
04:37 — Innovation in going to market, as well as in technology, means some new approaches to things. I think particularly Google Cloud here has been an extraordinary example of this. And I refer in this article to their recent disclosure that while OpenAI and Anthropic, AWS, and Microsoft are all launching deployment units to pull off these big AI projects, Google Cloud is relying 100% on its ecosystem.
05:11 — I'll be eager to see how these companies do in Q2, and we'll follow up with those and the other Cloud Wars Top 10 companies on how they've done in calendar Q2. But I really take my hat off to Google Cloud and Palantir because, in this very intense time, with an enormous market and everybody going after it, their growth rates are soaring.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I preview the coming wave of Q2 earnings while highlighting the extraordinary growth reshaping cloud computing.
Highlights
00:03 — We're on the verge of having a lot of calendar Q2 financial results released, so just in advance of that, I wanted to offer a snapshot of where things stand now regarding the world's hottest cloud and AI vendors. Right now, we've got Palantir in the number one spot, Google Cloud number two, Oracle number three.
00:42 — I've also got a chart in there showing backlog, or RPO, which is future booked business that's fully contracted, fully committed, among the four hyperscalers that now totals over $2 trillion. But in the here and now, here's where it stands for the Cloud Wars Top 10 companies. Palantir is in the number one spot for Q1.
01:56 — We've got Microsoft with an enormous performance here: 29% growth and $54.5 billion in quarterly cloud revenue. AWS had a very strong quarter: 28% growth and $37.6 billion in revenue. Salesforce is in the number nine spot with 13% growth, while OpenAI remains an estimate because it is not yet publicly traded.
03:05 — You know, you see some of these numbers, and as I referred to a moment ago about the backlog numbers, which are truly just mind-bending, we become immune to being amazed by the size and the volume here. I do not throw around the phrase "the greatest growth market the world has ever known" lightly.
03:55 — The former applications companies are now racing to become agentic companies and data companies. Huge change and transformation within the Cloud Wars Top 10 is helping customers participate in, succeed in, and potentially thrive in the AI economy. I don't expect any massive changes in this lineup, but the growth numbers will be very interesting over the next few weeks.
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In this episode of the AI Agent & Copilot Podcast, John Siefert, Founder and CEO of Cloud Wars, is joined by Cedric Wells, IT leader and former Senior Manager of Infrastructure and Operations at Gorilla Glue. Together, they explore how AI is reshaping IT leadership, software development, governance, and enterprise transformation. Wells shares why continuous learning, balancing strategic vision with execution, and maintaining strong security and data governance will define successful organizations in the AI Era. Their conversation also reflects many of the leadership themes that attendees explored at the 2026 AI Agent & Copilot Summit NA.
Key Takeaways
- Growth mindset is becoming the most valuable IT skill. Wells believes technical expertise alone is no longer enough. The speed of AI innovation requires professionals at every level to continuously refresh their knowledge and remain adaptable. He explains that technologies evolve so rapidly that learning has become a permanent responsibility rather than a periodic exercise. As Wells notes, "Having a mindset that's really around learning as much as I can as things are changing" is essential. He also reminds listeners, "It's changing so fast," making curiosity and adaptability foundational qualities for future IT leaders.
- AI enhances leadership — but doesn't replace technical understanding. Wells argues that AI is helping close the gap between technical specialists and business leaders, allowing executives to understand complex technologies more quickly. However, leaders still need enough technical context to ask intelligent questions and make informed decisions. As he explains, "Being able to really as a leader leverage AI as much as possible" creates significant advantages. He also emphasizes that "bridging that gap with your leadership skills and leveraging AI on the technical side" will define successful IT leadership moving forward.
- Governance and security are becoming even more important. Throughout the conversation, Wells repeatedly emphasizes that AI initiatives require close collaboration between infrastructure, information security, governance, and data teams. Without proper oversight, organizations risk exposing sensitive information, creating compliance issues, or building unreliable AI systems. Wells reminds listeners that "It's very important to make sure that those two departments are aligned" and warns that "Employees are doing it whether or not you like it," making proactive governance and secure enablement far more effective than restrictive policies alone.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I look at why Salesforce's new Help Agent represents a major shift toward performance-based enterprise AI.
Highlights
00:03 — Salesforce is launching the Agentforce Help Agent, a pre-built AI customer service agent that customers can deploy in a matter of minutes. It's designed as an alternative to custom-built agents, connecting to existing Salesforce knowledge articles and support content, which means only minimal configuration is required.
00:23 — I'm going to walk you through the features of this new agent before getting to the part I'm most excited about, and I think you will be too. The agent was built on the Agentforce platform and uses the Salesforce Data Cloud and CRM data for context, incorporating the responsible use and governance policies there too.
00:43 — It delivers enterprise-grade customer support by answering customer questions, troubleshooting issues, escalating complex cases to a human support agent. Salesforce validated the agent internally before the launch, and the company has reported that its own Help Agent handled 4.3 million customer conversations and resolved around 70% of inquiries autonomously, really showcasing its effectiveness.
01:16 — Here's the kicker: the new Help Agent operates on a resolution-based pricing model. This means that customers are only charged when the agent successfully resolves a customer's issue. There's no charge if the conversation is handed off to a human agent before resolution, and this approach is quite groundbreaking. In many ways, Salesforce is testing a new pricing model for enterprise AI.
01:50 — From an AI in the workplace perspective, this agent operates on a performance-based pricing scenario, similar to how a gig worker is paid for successful tasks completed, right? So, Salesforce is not the first company to use outcome-based pricing for software, but bringing it to Agentforce and pushing it further into enterprise AI is remarkable stuff and a great step forward from Salesforce.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explain why hyperscalers are rewriting the rules of deal-making to build the next generation of AI infrastructure.
Highlights
00:01 — We are seeing the beginnings here of an incredible round of innovation, not just in technology, but in deal-making, partnerships, alliances, and financing, all by the hyperscalers trying to meet this insatiable AI demand. We're seeing these companies undertake some very innovative, bold, distinctive new strategies to build the capability and capacity to get these AI data centers built out to meet this insatiable demand.
00:49 — Google Cloud did a joint venture with Blackstone, in which Blackstone invested $5 billion into the joint venture. We have seen Amazon issue a series of debt and bond offerings totaling over $100 billion. AWS has said that in calendar year 2026 it will spend $200 billion on CapEx, most of which is going into AI data centers. Oracle announced $50 billion in debt and equity financing.
01:57 — This funding, this raising of funds to build out the data centers, is because there is, among these hyperscalers, over $2 trillion in committed contracted business. While Oracle right now is the smallest by revenue of the hyperscalers, it has the largest backlog, and in order to meet that, it has to spend a lot of money to build the capacity.
02:46 — Microsoft is using proceeds from its brilliant early relationship with OpenAI to help secure some of the funding. Under a newly restructured agreement between the two companies, Microsoft now will receive 20% of OpenAI revenues for the next few years. Plus, Microsoft has a huge ownership stake in OpenAI.
04:17 — Remarkable things are going on here as the technology buildout by all these companies has helped create this incredible demand. What we're seeing now is extraordinary efforts by the hyperscalers to combine with other companies, move into different industries, and do everything possible — at staggering expense — to meet this insatiable customer demand for AI.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I look at how reasoning-focused AI will strengthen SAP Joule agents with enterprise-grade security and governance.
Highlights
00:03 — SAP has partnered with Giotto.ai to explore the integration of Giotto.ai's AI reasoning capabilities into SAP Joule agents. Now, for some background, Giotto.ai is a Swiss AI company that has developed compact, reasoning-focused AI models designed for deployment in secure and controlled enterprise environments.
00:25 — Quick recap here: reasoning-focused AI models are designed not just to generate answers, but to really work through problems in a more structured and logical way before giving a response. The partnership will initially focus on pilot projects aimed at enhancing SAP Joule agents in enterprise scenarios that require structured reasoning, reliability, and integration with enterprise data.
00:50 — The collaboration will also serve as an opportunity for Giotto.ai to validate its technology in demanding real-world business environments. According to CEO Aldo Podestà, the partnership will demonstrate the practical value of the company's reasoning-focused models in an enterprise setting.
01:10 — For SAP, the collaboration provides an opportunity to explore how reasoning-focused AI can enhance its enterprise agents, particularly in use cases that require dependable decision support and close integration with the business data processes available there.
01:29 — For SAP customers, the partnership could result in AI agents that provide more reliable recommendations, better decision support, and greater automation of more complex business processes, critically, and this is the USP of Giotto .ai critically, while maintaining enterprise-grade security and governance.
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As enterprise AI rapidly evolves from isolated assistants to autonomous systems capable of executing complex business processes, organizations are looking for practical ways to turn AI into measurable business outcomes. In this episode of Cloud Wars Live, Bob Evans speaks with Chris Leone, Executive Vice President of Oracle Applicationsand AI, Oracle about Oracle's latest innovations in Fusion Agentic Applications, the newFusion Builder Experience, and AI Studio Skill. Leone explains how Oracle is combining enterprise applications with AI agents to automate work, empower both business users and developers, and help organizations accelerate AI adoption while maintaining enterprise-grade security and governance.
AI That Delivers Outcomes
The Big Themes:
- Outcome-Driven AI Changes Everything: Oracle's vision for agentic AI begins with a simple premise: enterprise software should no longer focus primarily on completing tasks — it should focus on delivering business outcomes. Leone explains that Oracle has intentionally designed Fusion Agentic Applications around measurable objectives rather than individual transactions. Instead of asking users to manually coordinate dozens of activities, organizations define a goal, such as reducing supplier spending or shortening inventory lead times, and the application orchestrates the work required to achieve it. Teams of AI agents collaborate, monitor progress, recommend next steps, and increasingly automate execution while keeping humans involved whenever appropriate.
- Autonomous Work Is Gradual: Oracle isn't advocating for immediate, fully autonomous enterprises. Instead, Leone introduces the idea of an "autonomy dial" that organizations can gradually increase as confidence grows. Initially, AI agents recommend actions while employees remain responsible for approvals and execution. Over time, companies can allow the system to automatically perform more routine work while humans supervise exceptions and strategic decisions. Leone illustrates this using Oracle's Sourcing Command Center, where customers establish objectives like lowering supplier costs or reducing lead times. The application identifies shortages, creates RFQs, manages supplier auctions, recommends winners, and continuously guides employees throughout the process. As organizations become more comfortable, more of these steps can execute automatically. This phased approach helps customers balance productivity gains with governance, compliance, and trust while steadily reducing repetitive work and allowing employees to concentrate on higher-value business decisions.
- Customers Are Moving Fast: Leone describes Oracle's customer base as spanning the full spectrum of AI adoption. Some organizations are already experimenting aggressively with Oracle's newest Builder Experience, posting demonstrations almost immediately after release. Others have successfully deployed Oracle AI capabilities into production, with more than 7,000 customers already using Oracle AI services. Still, others remain cautious, focusing primarily on traditional transactional systems while gradually evaluating AI opportunities. Despite these varying adoption rates, Leone believes Oracle must continue innovating at the leading edge because tomorrow's competition may come from AI-first startups rather than traditional enterprise software vendors.
The Big Quote: "We're truly moving from this system of record that we've been delivering for many years to truly delivering outcomes for our customers."
More from Chris Leone:
Follow Chris Leone on LinkedIn or send a message via Oracle AI for Fusion Applications.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I compare Microsoft's and AWS's dramatically different branding strategies for AI deployment services.
Highlights
00:01 — We see here, in the unfolding AI Deployment Wars, some interesting naming conventions from Microsoft and AWS. And if you look at the comparison of these two, I wonder what they were hoping to achieve by this. I mean, I'm sure they wanted to have these names resonate clearly with people, but they picked wildly different names.
00:48 — AWS calls it Forward Deployed Engineering. Now, that is wildly unimaginative, but it's very clear. This is what you're going to get: forward-deployed engineers. That's the heart of it. It'll be both AWS's own FDEs and also some partners. They have three different tiers of services that customers can tap into.
01:22 — Microsoft is calling its company Microsoft Frontier Company, and I think, in a way, that's a little bit of a cross between Star Trek and Little House on the Prairie. Microsoft is sort of positioning this like companies really want to be the first in their field, out on the frontier.
03:13 — I think what business leaders are looking for isn't so much about frontier. What they want is: let's make this stuff work. Let's make it work clearly. Let's show quantifiable results. Let's get our culture right. Let's get our processes optimized. Let's get not only costs taken out of the company, but let's get new revenue streams building here.
04:07 — So I guess, of the two, if I had to pick one that I think was better, I'd have to give the nod to AWS. They're not going to try to impress anybody. They're not going to try to confuse anybody. You want this? This is what it is. So we'll see how this all plays out. But wild times are coming along here.
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As artificial intelligence accelerates both innovation and cyber risk, organizations are facing unprecedented pressure to secure sensitive data while deploying AI at scale. In this episode of Cloud Wars Live, Bob Evans speaks with Vipin Samar, SVP, Software Engineering, Database Security, Oracle, about Oracle's expanded AI security strategy and how the company is helping customers defend against increasingly sophisticated AI-powered attacks. Samar explains Oracle's three-part security philosophy and why removing barriers to rapid patching and risk assessment has become essential in the emerging era of agentic AI.
Winning the AI Security Race
The Big Themes:
- AI Has Fundamentally Changed the Cybersecurity Landscape: Vipin Samar argues that artificial intelligence has dramatically shifted the balance between defenders and attackers. While organizations are rapidly adopting agentic AI to improve productivity and automate business processes, the same advances are empowering cybercriminals. Modern large language models can now write software, analyze applications, identify vulnerabilities, and even recommend methods for exploiting those weaknesses. Tasks that once required highly trained hackers and weeks of effort can now be completed in hours by individuals with far less technical expertise.
- Speed Has Become a Critical Security Requirement: One of the interview's strongest themes is that cybersecurity now operates on AI timelines rather than human timelines. Samar explains that attackers no longer wait weeks or months to exploit newly discovered vulnerabilities. AI allows them to identify weaknesses, analyze patches, and develop exploits almost immediately after updates become available. That makes rapid patch deployment essential. Oracle is responding by simplifying and accelerating the entire patching lifecycle through automation, database lifecycle management tools, application testing capabilities, and deployment technologies that reduce operational complexity.
- Oracle Is Removing Adoption Barriers: Oracle's strategy extends beyond developing new security technology. Samar explains that many organizations delay implementing security improvements because of procurement hurdles, lengthy approval processes, limited budgets, or concerns about operational disruption. Oracle is attempting to eliminate those obstacles by making several enterprise-grade security products available free for a limited time, including Oracle Data Safe, Database Security Assessment capabilities, Database Lifecycle Management Pack, and Exadata Management Pack.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I compare Google's ecosystem-first AI strategy with the hybrid deployment models of Microsoft and AWS.Highlights
00:03 — A crazy new trend here in 2026 has been AI deployment, or agent deployment, agentic transformation. The connection is this remarkable technology that all these AI companies have been pumping out with the desired business goals that business leaders are demanding. You see a couple of different approaches emerging here.
00:26 — The five big AI companies leading the way on this are Google Cloud, Microsoft, AWS, OpenAI, and Anthropic. The only one of those that is going with an exclusively partner ecosystem-led approach for these AI deployments is Google Cloud. I think the big thing is it's going 100% with its ecosystem partners for these AI deployments, for what Google Cloud calls agentic transformation.
01:51 — President, Global Partner Ecosystem, Kevin Ichhpurani has been a very successful in his efforts. He's also been a staunch supporter of this [approach], he says: "We're a technology company. We're really good at doing the technology, and we want to surround ourselves with force multiplying partners who are really good at the deployment. And Google Cloud will be connected with them in some ways."
03:16 — Partner-driven revenue was up 80%. Bookings driven by partners were up 100%, so they doubled. And sales of partner-created solutions on the Google Cloud Marketplace were up 90%. As high-growth as Google Cloud was in 2025, they're moving and growing, expanding at an even more blistering pace here in 2026.
04:36 — Google Cloud has said, "Hey, what we've been doing so far has been working really well. We're going to double down on that with lots of training and incentives for our partners," whereas AWS and Microsoft say, "You know what? We're going to keep working with partners. In some ways, we need to build our own capabilities and expertise."
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Key Takeaways
- Solgari's leading innovations: Grant explains that Solgari provides a customer engagement platform built on Azure that extends Microsoft Teams and Dynamics 365 (as well as other CRMs) to capture customer conversations and centralize that data for better engagement. Customers are adopting it to quickly solve specific engagement challenges, gain fast ROI, and apply it to AI strategies to drive more intelligent business outcomes.
- AI's role in customer engagement: Companies that centralize customer conversations into a single data platform gain an advantage because AI is only as effective as the data it can access. Grant says customer engagement is "ground zero for AI" as it enables capabilities like automation, sentiment analysis, and sales or service intelligence that improve customer satisfaction, reduce costs, and deliver measurable ROI.
- Use case: Grant shares details on Solgari's involvement with AMB Sports & Entertainment, who own the Atlanta Falcons. Solgari helped them unify fan engagement across voice, SMS, email, and WhatsApp within Microsoft Teams and Dynamics 365, creating a repository of fan conversations in Dataverse. By consolidating this data, AMB Sports & Entertainment is now well positioned to "create momentum around their AI strategy."
- Final thoughts: In closing, Grant shares why Solgari has shifted its customer and partner conversations away from product demos and toward business outcomes, showing how customer engagement data can evolve into valuable AI use cases over time.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explain why the next phase of agentic AI is all about governance, security, and business processes.
Highlights
00:03 — Salesforce has expanded its partnership with Databricks to help organizations better connect enterprise data with business outcomes in the era of agentic AI. At its core, the expanded partnership is about recognizing that as AI agents take on a larger role across the enterprise, they need access to complete, connected data that's paired with business context, security controls, and enterprise processes.
00:51 — Access to data alone really is not enough for AI agents to deliver meaningful business value. "Customers consistently tell us they want AI agents to become a larger part of how work gets done across the enterprise," said Andy Kofoid, President of Global Field Operations at Databricks. "To make this a reality, they need access to trusted data, business contexts, and governance controls wherever that information lives."
01:32 — "Together, Salesforce and Databricks are helping customers connect governed data and business contexts across platforms, giving humans and agents the shared foundation they need to search, reason, and act with confidence."
01:46— I think this partnership is, yet again, part of a pattern that's emerging here. It's representing a broader shift that's taking place across the AI industry as organizations move beyond experimentation and toward large-scale deployment of AI agents.
02:00 — As this is happening, success really depends less on the models and more on the ability to unite these agentic capabilities with data governance, security, and business processes. Salesforce and Databricks are betting that enterprises need all of those elements working together cohesively if agentic AI is to deliver on the promises it has made.
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Minute, I look at how Google Cloud, Microsoft, AWS, OpenAI, and Anthropic are redefining enterprise AI adoption.
Highlights
00:11 — So, in what I'm calling the AI Deployment Wars, we see the five largest AI companies — that is, Google Cloud, Microsoft, AWS, OpenAI, and Anthropic — are now all saying, or realizing, that in addition to this incredible technology they're pumping out, they have to actually ensure that all that cool stuff works for customers and that it delivers quantifiable business outcomes.
01:29 — One, we see these tech companies, who've always said, "I don't want to be in the services business," now they have to get a little bit into the services business. They are all relying on the coolest three-letter acronym of the year, FDE, for forward deployed engineers, and they're all saying they're doing this to help customers, to co-create and collaborate with customers.
02:22 — So first, Google Cloud, number one on the Cloud Wars Top 10, it announced a $750 million ecosystem fund to help partners develop agentic AI applications and capabilities that will help its customers get up to speed. OpenAI, $4.15 billion that it's investing in this — $4 billion so far itself, and outside investors have put into a new deployment company.
03:03 — Anthropic, it's about $1.5 billion, and all these companies, other than Google Cloud, it's a combination of forward deployed engineers and partners. AWS said, "We're going to put a billion dollars into it." Microsoft, $2.5 billion. It's calling it's the Microsoft Frontier Company. These numbers here together add up to $9.9 billion. I rounded up to $10 billion.
04:02 — They're (customers are) saying, "We're spending a lot of money on it, we're devoting a lot of time, we're devoting a lot of thinking and energy and focus to this, but we're not seeing the tangible business outcomes." We need to get this deep-seated engineering capability from these big tech vendors to ensure that these new AI transformation initiatives aren't just talk.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explain why Microsoft's newest AI initiative could reshape enterprise engineering and customer success.
Highlights
00:09 — Some huge news from Microsoft today. The company has launched Microsoft Frontier Company, a brand-new business that's entirely focused on helping customers achieve frontier transformation with AI.
00:28 — Now, Microsoft, despite not coining the term [Frontier Firm] itself, has been using it extensively to really outline its strategy in terms of how it sees its AI tools transforming companies, essentially enabling them to become frontier firms. This Frontier Company, to me, feels like the culmination of all that forethought and clarity around Microsoft's enterprise AI mission.
00:56 — Microsoft is investing $2.5 billion into the initiative, which will see 6,000 industry specialists and AI engineers embedded into customer organizations to help them co-design, deploy, and continuously improve AI systems. You can think about it as forward-deployed engineering, but on a much broader scale.
01:19 — Judson Althoff, CEO of Microsoft Commercial Business, calls it the "largest, most capable, outcome-driven engineering organization in the industry." Ultimately, Althoff explained the aim of Microsoft Frontier Company is to focus on end-to-end frontier transformation and enable customers to "amplify their IQ with AI while refining their differentiated value in the markets that they serve."
01:51 — Microsoft has said it will be working closely with its partner ecosystem, particularly with partners including Accenture, Capgemini, EY, KPMG, and PwC, to scale the company, extend its capabilities to organizations across many sectors globally. It's an incredibly interesting and strategic move from Microsoft, and one that I'll be following up with a deeper analysis in a written article publishing shortly.
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In this episode, I consider an argument that Palantir recently made: While traditional ERP has been valuable for many businesses over the last few decades, as we move into the AI Economy, is it possible that some of the rigor, discipline, and standards that traditional ERP has brought to organizations and their processes are beginning to cause a problem?
Highlights
00:58 — Palantir challenged traditional ERP in a recent blog post. Although there's a great value it can offer, the company prompted the idea that too much standardization — in the current economy, which is very fluid, and in the age of AI — can become a problem.
01:44 — Standardization leads to everything being uniform. So, how do companies stand out? Palantir noted that uniqueness is not a bug that software should erase but rather a feature that keeps you ahead. Another note it made was that it means sacrificing the organization's identity, its differentiated processes, and the ways it creates value for customers.
02:34 — This isn't a case of Palantir saying that ERP overall is bad; it's the mindset and how the business operates. Now, we have to pick and choose where the approach of standardization applies. This overly standardized traditional ERP approach is going to stifle the ability of companies to create competitive advantage by those unique capabilities, qualities, and personality that traditional ERP, in the view of Palantir, stifles.
03:42 — In its blog post, Palantir suggests a solution to this, that the company can help customers interconnect these new ways of doing things — a modern layer with traditional ERP. Palantir is deepening its partnership with SAP so they can deliver greater capabilities to customers.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explore Microsoft's shift to usage-based Copilot Cowork pricing and what it reveals about the changing economics of enterprise AI.
Highlights
00:10 — Microsoft is moving Copilot Cowork from a fixed-price subscription model to usage-based pricing, and this is really reflecting the fact that heavy users are racking up massive compute costs compared to others.
00:55 — More and more, the focus is shifting to how organizations can scale those (AI) capabilities in a way that's financially stable, but beyond that, Microsoft has also said that it's considering a Microsoft-hosted version of DeepSeek as a lower-cost model alternative.
01:16 — Right now, at the moment, Copilot Cowork workloads are powered by models from OpenAI and Anthropic. We should expect to hear from Microsoft regarding DeepSeek, or another low-cost model choice, within the coming weeks.
01:32 — So, what are we really seeing here? Well, Microsoft's AI strategy is evolving beyond simply offering access to the most powerful models. Increasingly, it's about giving customers the right balance of performance, economics, and choice.
01:49 — This is also highlighting, for me, a big divide between how governments and businesses view the AI race. Governments often frame this AI race as a competition between nations, but enterprises are more likely to focus on which models deliver the best outcomes at the lowest cost for their customers.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I examine what OpenAI's latest move reveals about the maturation of the enterprise AI market.
Highlights
00:03 —My colleague Bob Evans has already covered the specifics of OpenAI's new partner network, so I don't want to spend too much time on the ins and outs of the program itself today. Instead, what I want to do is focus on what this announcement really tells us about the wider state, the broader state of the AI market.
00:25 — Now, for much of the past two years, the conversation around AI has focused on models, questions like: "Which model is best? Which company is ahead? How quickly are capabilities improving? Now, while those questions still matter, they're not the most important ones for many enterprises today. The challenge is more about scalable deployment.
00:44 — Most large organizations have already experimented at this point with AI in some way. They've run pilots, they've tested use cases, and identified areas where AI can really create value for them. The issue now is turning those successes into a scalable business strategy.
01:17 — And that's why OpenAI's partner network matters in this instance. For me, the announcement is less about OpenAI launching another program and more about the company realizing that, although it has the technology, that alone isn't enough for companies to scale in the AI era. They need an ecosystem that includes consultants, partners, and specialists as well.
01:49 — The winners in this next phase will not necessarily be the organizations with access to the most powerful models; they'll be the ones that can successfully embed AI into day-to-day operations and generate real business outcomes. When you look at it like this, OpenAI's partner network is not just a new customer program, it's a sign that the industry is entering a new chapter.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I discuss the growing challenge of balancing AI demand, budgets, and business priorities across the enterprise.
Highlights
00:02 — We’ve got an emerging dilemma here for CEOs in the early days of the AI Revolution, and a new solution from OpenAI has brought that to light. The dilemma is this: when everybody wants AI tokens, as many as they can get, as quickly as they can get them, but AI tokens are in limited supply, who gets them? Who decides that? How do companies measure that?
00:54 — So, OpenAI has come out with a new tool. This new solution from OpenAI is aimed at AI administrators, so they can sort of turn them on and off, see who’s using what, which ones align with business impact, more over here, less over here. As a tool, that’s all great. But who sets, on high, the policies that those AI admins then can use as their guide?
01:47 — The current state of reality in the marketplace is that the technology is outpacing a lot of corporate cultures. Perhaps there are some CEOs who have sat down with their executive teams and very rigorously hammered this out: a very clear, transparent policy. The current state of the market, though, is one where I don’t see that happening in too many places.
02:49 — The problem sits on top of that solution. Who sets the policies that the AI admins will then follow? You’ve got salespeople over here screaming, “I need more,” product development saying they need more, marketing saying they need more, and every part of the company saying, “I need more.” Who sets the guidelines for how that is determined?
03:30 —The enormous burden is resting on the shoulders of AI administrators who are just not equipped to see across the company and determine where these resources should go. For CEOs, the AI clock is ticking, not only to set a high-level strategy, but also to build the culture that allows companies to be successful in the AI Revolution and AI economy.
04:33 — Great tool from OpenAI, but there’s got to be a lot of education done at the top level for customers. As AI tokens begin to be recognized as incredibly valuable, companies may need entirely new approaches to allocation, governance, and business prioritization.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I examine three very different approaches to turning breakthrough AI technology into real-world business transformation.
Highlights
00:11 — The AI Deployment Wars involve Google Cloud, OpenAI, and Anthropic. Each has evolved from being almost lab-focused companies with tremendous AI models, and now the pace of innovation of these models is remarkable. The capabilities, power, is stunning, but what that leads to is a huge demand among customers now to not just slip in a piece of technology, but to change companies dramatically.
00:45 — So, that's why the focus here now is on these Deployment Wars. I want to take a look at the three different approaches that these companies are taking. How are they going to take this very cool technology and turn that into customer success at the point of deployment for these customers? There are different approaches here. Money's not the issue here.
01:45 — The challenge is, how do they set themselves up to be not just great creators of technology, but deployment enablers for some of the world's largest companies doing unbelievably complex projects and betting their futures on AI? The technology is enabling the real goals, which are transformation and the ability to move and grow quickly.
02:21 — How are they going to ensure customer success at every level? How are they going to change the processes companies have, the way they do business, the mindset, the technology, the opportunities they have, the strategy, and the cultures of these companies? How are they going to tackle technical challenges that nobody has really ever handled before? This is remarkably different.
03:56 — Google Cloud is going to go almost exclusively with partners. Both Anthropic and OpenAI are saying that they have both funded, along with a lot of partners, deployment companies that will use deployed engineers who are employees of either OpenAI or Anthropic out at the point of the customer to complement or supplement some of what partners are doing.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I discuss how one of the Big Four consultancies is using Microsoft technology to simplify AI scaling for customers worldwide.
Highlights
00:10 — Some big partner news today: KPMG and Microsoft are expanding their existing partnership to help firms scale agentic AI initiatives. Another example of how far things have progressed in a few short years, as companies become increasingly AI-mature and start to incorporate these transformational technologies across their businesses.
00:34 — Within the new agreement, KPMG will leverage Microsoft 365 Agent to enhance its trusted AI framework in order to help KPMG clients deliver agentic AI across their enterprises, while KPMG member firms will also be deploying Microsoft 365 Copilot on a global scale, totaling over 267,000 users.
01:02 — So, a massive rollout of Copilot there. But the big story here is how KPMG is further integrating, this time from an agentic AI stance, Microsoft technology into its client service delivery platforms. What this means is that it's making it easier for KPMG clients to scale AI because of the consistency this provides.
01:25 — It's consistency, governance, deployment, management, and production, and that's the real customer benefit here. This is a deepening of the relationship between Microsoft and KPMG.
01:36 — I think partnerships like this are so important because the amount of options and strategies for AI deployment is really quite mind-boggling. So, when you have one of the Big Four consultancies showing the way, using a consistent set of tools in-house and with its customers, the outcomes are just going to be that much better.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explain how AWS is using AI-driven automation to reduce technical debt and free up budgets for innovation.
Highlights
00:03 — As the AI Revolution has kicked into full swing this year, we've heard a lot of stories — interesting ones — about companies blowing through their AI budgets because everybody loves this stuff; everybody wants to use it. That brings up this notion of technical debt.
00:46 — AWS has introduced an autonomous tool that's primary job is to slay the technical debt monster that is grinding up so much of so many companies' IT budgets and limiting their abilities to do the things going forward that they need to do. It said it consumes 30% of IT budgets, and this is a staggering number.
01:51 — This party that's been going on here now — the big AI kegger during the AI Revolution — is going to come to an end. And what always follows those parties is a hangover. That hangover is going to be centered on technical debt, budgets, and money decisions that have to be made.
02:44 — AWS gave a list of some of the benefits of it [the tool] but, AWS is missing a huge audience, business people who say, “God, we're spending incredible amounts of money on IT. Why are we not getting as much sort of innovation oomph out of this?” It's because so much has to be spent to sustain this already in place technology that's there, the technical debt that builds on that.
04:33 — I think AWS has to find somebody to package this as an agent, that if they call this agentic AI, it goes from being some sleepy thing with a ho-hum name to something that could be very cool. It's the technical debt killer agent, something like that. This is what it does: it autonomously operates, takes care of stuff, makes decisions, evaluates data, does all that.
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Highlights
00:08 — Now, in a slight tangent away from what we're used to from Microsoft, the company is developing two new AI-powered gadgets for workers that tap into AI for daily tasks. Both are currently in the concept stage.
00:22 — The first is a small cube designed to sit on a desk that can be activated by voice or touch. Second is a wearable access badge that would give wearers access to AI-driven workflows. Now, the two devices are already being used by a couple of hundred Microsoft employees, but the company has not said when they'll become commercially available.
00:44 — Both were showcased at the recent Build conference. They're part of Microsoft's Project Solara, and here's what Stephen Pattison, CVP and Technical Fellow, Applied Sciences Group at Microsoft, had to say about the overall project.
01:07 — "The mission of Project Solara, a new software platform coupled with tailored hardware solutions, is to pioneer agent-first experiences that are shaped around you, your agents, your tasks, your environment, under your control."
01:27 — "These new devices are not meant to run traditional apps. They're designed for agents, and that shift gives us more flexibility in the user interface because the experience can adapt to the device, screen size, content, and even the mode of interaction, whether visual, voice, touch, or multimodal."
02:07 — I think it's particularly interesting that Microso
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I look at why two of the fastest-growing Cloud Wars companies are joining forces around data, AI, and industry solutions.
Highlights
00:03 — When heavy weather rolls in, it's good to have friends around. It's good to have partnerships, and I don't think the AI Revolution is so much heavy weather, but that depends on how well prepared businesses are to take advantage of it, how aggressively, how thoughtfully they're moving into this AI Revolution.
00:41 — It's interesting, Google Cloud and Palantir, on the Cloud Wars Top 10, these are the two fastest-growing companies. Google Cloud grew 63%; Palantir grew 70%. Palantir's commercial business grew 133% in the first quarter, so they've got enormous momentum.
01:30 — The Palantir Foundry platform for enterprise data management is now available on Google Cloud infrastructure and on the Google Cloud Marketplace. Google Cloud and Palantir have built connectors between Foundry and Google Cloud's BigQuery, allowing data from those platforms and others to be pulled together for businesses to analyze.
02:09 — Not just the technical integrations, which have to happen, but also this desire for these two companies to say, "We're going to jointly develop industry-specific solutions around data and AI for vertical markets." The first two they picked are retail and financial services.
03:15 — This is a dream partnership, I think. And it's also probably an example of how, with the enormity of the prospects of what can happen here in the AI Revolution, we're going to see more of the Cloud Wars Top 10 companies form these sorts of wide-ranging partnerships.
04:19 — There's a big emphasis from both of these companies on keeping things open and fully accessible for whichever specific routes customers want to take. We're seeing these inextricably bound connections here through this partnership of data, which is the fuel for AI, helping companies transform into AI-powered enterprises.
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Highlights
00:27 — It's not just business as usual for these companies, their customers, and others who are tied into these extraordinary enterprises. We're also seeing booms in innovation, not just in technology but in go-to-market models, business models, and more.
01:32 — The big part of this is that it's not just big numbers, but big numbers driving widespread, deep, and profound innovation. Here's how the $2.1 trillion breaks out across the four hyperscalers:
| Backlog | RPO Total Backlog | RPO Growth Rate | | --- | --- | --- | | Oracle | $638 Billion | 363% | | Microsoft | $627 Billion | 99% | | Google Cloud | $462 Billion | 93% | | AWS | $364 Billion | 49% | | Total | $2.091 Trillion |
02:32 — With this high level of innovation, we're seeing a convergence of industries including technology, energy, and construction. Because of extreme demands, the tech industry has to start getting into the energy business. Construction is entering the picture as well, as these facilities are some of the largest built in such a short period of time, meeting demanding specifications and aligning with supply and demand.
03:25 — This convergence is leading to the hyperscalers developing new business models. These companies are coming up with unique models to solve this unprecedented demand and business challenge. Customers are coming up with different models based on what's happening, too.
04:15 — I have been a huge fan of the potential of fusion energy to meet this need. The convergence of tech and energy is only going to accelerate what's happening to break even with fusion energy.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I examine why the Google Cloud-EQT deal signals a major shift in how AI is being distributed at scale.
Highlights
00:03 — The rapid pace at which deals are being struck and portfolios are expanding among the leaders in the race for AI dominance isn't new. Significant partnerships are being forged, and contracts are being signed all the time. However, every so often, a deal comes along that stands out not only for its scope, but also for what it indicates about the direction of travel for the industry as a whole.
00:33 — One such deal recently announced is between Google Cloud and the Swedish private equity firm EQT. Ultimately, this partnership sees EQT commit to accelerating AI adoption through Google Cloud for over 300 companies within its portfolio, and this is, of course, a big win for Google Cloud, as it gains access to hundreds of potential enterprise AI customers.
01:04 — Beyond this, those companies will not only benefit from Google Cloud's wide-ranging AI offerings, including the Gemini Enterprise agent platform, as well as its cybersecurity portfolio, but also from its vast partner network, which includes over 330,000 consultants from major firms like Deloitte and KPMG.
01:27 — For me, the biggest takeaways here are that, firstly, agentic AI is clearly going mainstream, with equity firms eager to roll it out among their entire portfolios. We're obviously well past the experimentation phase now.
01:42 — Secondly, this really presents a major opportunity for AI infrastructure companies to leverage this growing acceptance to enhance AI distribution at the portfolio level. This shift could result in AI adoption accelerating much faster than when companies go down the traditional enterprise sales route.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I look at how OpenAI is transforming from an AI innovator into a full-scale enterprise powerhouse.
Highlights
00:02 — Well, a couple weeks ago, we talked about some moves made by OpenAI to capitalize on its booming business in the enterprise. One of the things, just to offer some context here, is OpenAI said about a month ago that 40% of its revenue now comes from the enterprise, but by the end of the year, it expects that to be 50% enterprise business.
00:56 — It's added a million business customers in the last 12 months. They want to rapidly get to the right business outcome. OpenAI has launched a couple of go-to-market initiatives here, focused around deployment, and it's doing this in two separate, closely coordinated, ways.
02:06 — It's going to be with them deeply to help guide these AI transformations. OpenAI has set up a $150 million fund in this OpenAI Partner Network to support the initiatives of these partners as they go through, to help them move quickly, get the resources they need, and establish the right sort of capabilities to work with customers to get these high-level outcomes.
02:32 — Also, the OpenAI Partner Network says that it wants to certify 300,000 consultants by the end of the year on OpenAI's technology for businesses. We're about halfway through the year, so roughly that's close to 50,000 certified consultants per month starting July 1 through the end of the year. That's a very ambitious pace.
03:21 — Now, the second part of this two-part deployment effort is the OpenAI Deployment Company, launched about a month ago. This is one where OpenAI is the majority owner, but they've also taken lots of outside investments from other companies, including investment firms, consultancies, and systems integrators.
03:28 — Currently, the forward deployed engineers have come from OpenAI's acquisition of Tomorrow. That is an AI engineering and deployment company that currently has 154 deployed engineers, and OpenAI says they want to crank that up to 250 very rapidly.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I break down how DynaTech Systems enabled Solmax to turn operational complexity into global efficiency with D365, Power BI, and Microsoft Fabric.
Highlights
00:03 — Today I want to take a bit of a dive into a specific case study: the story about the impact of digital transformation enabled by one company on the business outcomes of another. I love having the opportunity to explore stories like this because, as important as it is to discuss the technology itself, how it's implemented and what that implementation can lead to is just as critical.
00:41 — Solmax is a leading geosynthetics manufacturer focused on civil and environmental infrastructure, operating across four continents through 32 legal entities. This broad reach, although great from a growth perspective, was creating challenges such as data silos, inconsistent processes, and a lack of standardized reporting, which affected financial and operational insights.
01:08 — Beyond this, manual processes led to inefficiencies. Complex sales price calculations hindered productivity, and reliance on outdated Microsoft systems resulted in slower Power BI report refresh times. To address these challenges, Solmax had a core goal: the One Organization, One Data, One Reporting initiative.
01:52 — DynaTech has a number of solutions it will tailor to suit the outcomes of an individual client. In the case of Solmax, the company opted for its finance optimization solution. After process consulting, DynaTech enabled a greenfield implementation of D365 Finance and Supply Chain Management with unified processes across 32 entities.
03:17 — Beyond this, unified real-time dashboards enhanced global reporting, supported faster decision-making, and improved the company's audit readiness. Solmax was able to reduce freight costs, accelerate delivery cycles, improve truck utilization, minimize penalties, and shorten accounts payable and receivable processing times. Less manual intervention meant fewer errors.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I look at how Oracle's leadership transition reflects Larry Ellison's long-term succession plan.
Highlights
00:05 — I wanted to mention here that after 40 years, the long-running show called Larry Ellison's Story Hour has ended. Now, I'm taking a little bit of license here. The Story Hour was the quarterly earnings call for Oracle, and it was 40 years ago that Oracle went public.
00:30 — While he would certainly talk occasionally about the numbers, the financial results, he used those occasions, those earnings calls, to tell the stories of what was going on not just within Oracle, but in the outside world, the direction in which technology was headed, where the business world was headed, and then where the technology was following.
01:15 — Larry Ellison did not make any opening remarks for the first time in 40 years. Last week on their Q4 earnings call, Ellison wasn't even on the call itself. The three executives handled everything. I believe they did a great job, so no disrespect toward them, but it's just kind of not going to be the same.
02:24 — In about two months, Larry Ellison is going to have his 82nd birthday. He has been building up to this moment for about the last 12 years. Larry Ellison, I think, clearly believes he does not need to be on these earnings calls anymore because the company is in great hands with its new CEOs.
04:10 — I am not trying to say that Larry Ellison is riding off into any sunset, but I do think it was just a momentous occasion here when he decided 40 years of the Larry Ellison Story Hour on these earnings calls is enough, and time for a new chapter. Larry Ellison has a lot of work in a lot of different areas, and clearly he is deeply focused on them.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I compare Oracle, Microsoft, Google Cloud, and AWS through the lens of backlog growth and future demand.
Highlights
00:02 — I talked last week a little bit about Oracle's Q4 results, very strong across the board. I wanted to go into a little more detail today about one number in particular: its RPO, remaining performance obligation. That's contracted business not yet recognized as revenue.
00:18 — Some people refer to it as RPO. It's also known as pipeline or backlog. But with what Oracle reported for Q4, its AI and cloud backlog, pipeline, or RPO is now the largest in the world: $638 billion. It's even bigger than Microsoft's. This reveals a lot about who's got momentum into the future.
01:02 — So, as I said, Oracle's RPO for the quarter ended May 31 was $638 billion, up 363%. A couple of months ago, when Microsoft reported its fiscal Q3 and calendar Q1 numbers for the period ended March 31, it reported RPO of $627 billion, up 99%. So, Oracle beats them slightly on total RPO, but look at the difference in the growth rate: 99% versus 363%.
02:20 — But when we flip the arrow of time from the recent past, which revenue reflects, into the future, that's where we see Oracle is just winning an outlandish share of the business going forward, even more than Microsoft. We're seeing more and more of that pipeline, or RPO, over time convert to revenue for both of these companies.
03:40 — These are multiplier effects, and again, my point here is about who's growing faster and who is moving into leadership positions going forward. Clearly, as Microsoft and AWS led the first chapter of the cloud, here in the AI chapter, the leaders jumping out in front, growing faster, and finding new ways of doing things are Oracle and Google Cloud.
04:12 — Speaking of AWS, how does it fit into this whole RPO tale of the tape? AWS refers to this as backlog, and in its most recent quarter, ended March 31, it said that its backlog was $364 billion, up 49%. For Google Cloud, its backlog is $462 billion, growing at 98%. So clearly, all three companies are outperforming AWS in this backlog/RPO space.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, explore how SAP's Autonomous Suite could become the operating system for AI-powered enterprises
Highlights00:02 — The company that more than 50 years ago really started the whole enterprise applications business, SAP, last month at its big Sapphire event rolled out the latest, greatest, newest AI-powered version of their long-running ERP suite, but this time it's called the Autonomous Suite, so that's a huge change.
00:33 — I had a chance to sit down with Jan Gilg, who's Global President for Customer Success for the Americas at SAP headquarters and asked about a number of things that customers have the opportunity to move into with this newer, more fully integrated, more AI-powered Autonomous Suite. And I know there's been some risk that SAP took in selecting this name.
01:49 — Jan's been in SAP for about 15 years. He was on the development side for a long time, and he was leading, several years ago, the development of S/4HANA and that whole version of the suite.
02:36 — We talked about this issue of trust. Autonomous is right there in the name. It's one thing for different autonomous technologies to manage things. But, when you talk about the autonomous enterprise ... we got into the discussion of what SAP has to do to build up trust among its customers.
03:28 — What's the interplay between agentic AI and applications going in both directions? Oracle can now refer to its Fusion Applications as Agentic Applications. Is SAP doing everything it can to clarify in the minds of customers where applications end and agents begin, and the same thing in the other direction? Jan has some great thoughts on that.
04:12 — Everybody in the company, I guess, was running tokens 24 hours a day. So, Jan has some good thoughts on this. And then we talked about customer examples. Let's see, there was one from the retailer H&M, there was one from a manufacturing company, and we had some different ones in here that he brought up. But he really brought some good perspectives on that.
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In this Cloud Wars Special report, Bob Evans speaks with Jan Gilg about how AI is reshaping enterprise software and why the next phase of innovation will depend on trust, governance, business outcomes, and clean data. Gilg explains how SAP is positioning its Autonomous Suite as a foundation for the autonomous enterprise, combining ERP, business processes, and AI agents.
Trust Powers Enterprise AI
The Big Themes:
- Autonomous Enterprise Vision: Jan Gilg said Sapphire generated strong enthusiasm because customers finally heard a clear vision for enterprise AI. Rather than focusing solely on AI models or isolated features, SAP presented an integrated strategy built around the Autonomous Suite and Business AI. While consumer AI has dramatically improved personal productivity, enterprise leaders need AI that can help make critical business decisions and automate end-to-end processes. SAP's message resonated because it connected AI directly to business execution, positioning enterprise systems as the foundation for autonomous operations rather than treating AI as a standalone technology layer.
- AI Economics Matter: Another major topic was the cost of AI. Gilg noted that enterprises are becoming increasingly focused on transparency, consumption, and measurable outcomes. As AI usage expands, costs can grow rapidly, creating new concerns for business leaders. Customers want detailed visibility into which agents are being used, how resources are consumed, and whether the resulting business value justifies the expense. Gilg compared this need for transparency to a detailed telephone bill.
- Data Quality Determines Success: The interview concluded with examples demonstrating that AI success depends heavily on modernized systems and clean data. Gilg spoke of initiatives involving retailers such as H&M, where AI can improve customer experiences, fulfillment, and revenue generation. He also referenced work with Bayer and discussed ExxonMobil’s modernization journey. These examples reinforced a key point: AI delivers the greatest value when built on standardized processes, strong master data, and simplified architectures.
The Big Quote: “You have to lead with value. Yes, technology is exciting, but it does nothing if the customer doesn't see the outcome."
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I dive into Oracle's remarkable Q4 earnings report, where the company delivered results that exceeded expectations across the board.
Highlights
00:02 — We had a monster Q4 report from Oracle yesterday, absolutely crushed their numbers for Q4, led by an astonishing leap in their backlog or remaining performance obligation (RPO) of $638 billion, That's an increase of 363%. And no, those are not misprints.
00:29 — RPO represents business that's fully contracted, not yet recognized as revenue, so it's pipeline backlog, as opposed to revenue, which has already been posted for what has happened in the past. So I wanted to quickly pop out a couple highlights here that go along with that. Just remarkable RPO growth, cloud revenue overall was up 47% to 9.9 billion.
00:56 — Within that, cloud applications grew 10% to 4.1 billion, and the big star of the company, now their cloud infrastructure business was up 93% to $5.8 billion. One other number that Oracle put in its Q4 press release, that is pretty darn impressive, their multi-cloud AI database business, they said, was up 404% and they said that now makes this the fastest growing product in the company's history.
02:11 — Looking ahead a little bit, Oracle guided in Q1, they said their cloud business will grow between 57 and 63% so caught about 60% and that extends a long running streak of fast growing numbers there for Oracle's cloud revenue or cloud business.
02:33 — Oracle also said in its Q4 press release that it will be doing no more borrowing to fund its data center expansion throughout for calendar 2026, certainly possible for next year, but for this calendar year, no more borrowing. I think most people would yawn or overlook that fact. There have been a lot of folks on Wall Street, though as I've mentioned, that this has caused them fainting spells and pearl clutching, because they, nobody's done this before.
03:44 — Now, I don't know, I don't think there's a lot of companies that have run into that challenge before. It's a delightful challenge to have, but it is not something that you know a lot of companies can just, you know, reach into the petty cash box and say, you know, here's $100 billion $200 billion dollars to fund it.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I analyze how Sana is helping Workday transform from a system of record into a system of action.
Highlights
0:00 — Workday has announced two new agents: Sana for IT Service Management, or ITSM, and Sana Travel Agent. To recap, Workday acquired Sana at the end of 2025, and since then, the technology has evolved into Workday's employee AI layer, what the company describes as its "front door for work."
0:42 — Sana for ITSM automates workflows for tasks like employee onboarding, off-boarding, access changes, and standard IT requests, while the Sana Travel Agent helps employees plan work trips, book travel, and manage expenses. Both agents are built directly on Workday, meaning they have the same security and governance protocols by default, and tap into the bespoke contextual company data and policy information contained within the platform.
00:57 — Cloud Wars founder Bob Evans commented on the development in the official Workday press release: "Extending agents into adjacent workflows like onboarding, travel, and expenses, where Workday already has the people and finance data and policies, is not only practical but also a transformational way to help HR and finance leaders meet and exceed their objectives."
01:25 — Workday's acquisition of Sana was a pivotal moment in the company's recent history and accelerated its push in the enterprise AI era. The deal signaled a strategic evolution beyond Workday's traditional role as a system of record for HR and finance processes.
01:44 — At the same time, that deep system of record foundation is exactly what makes Sana's autonomous AI agents such a strong fit, because the agents can operate with rich context, permissions, policy, and workflow data already embedded within the platform.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I analyze how a trillion dollars in cloud backlog is driving innovation beyond technology and into corporate finance.
Highlights
00:03 — In the Cloud Wars, all sorts of crazy things are going on with the technology, what customers are doing with it, but also in how this whole remarkable time is being funded. I want to talk a little bit today about how Google Cloud and Oracle are choosing to fund this unprecedented market demand and why new possibilities require new ways of doing things.
01:25 — In Oracle's most recent quarter, it reported that its RPO, or Remaining Performance Obligation, similar to backlog, is over $550 billion. For Google Cloud, it had an amazing jump as well in its most recent quarter, ended March 31, $462 billion in backlog, almost double what it had been a year before that. So there's amazing demand, these two companies totaling a trillion dollars.
02:09 — Six months ago, Oracle reached out and said, “No, no, we're going to go to some outside funding, some borrowing, to do that.” But the market reacted with a panic. “Oh my God, nobody's ever done this.” And, you know, "What if they can't pay it back?” So there was a lot of skepticism about Oracle's plan six months ago.
02:58 — Now, a week ago, we see Alphabet step up and say, “Hey, we're going to do some equity financing. We're going to take $10 billion from Warren Buffett and some other places. We need this money. We think it's the best way to pursue funding our own data center expansions, our own CapEx needs, which will be somewhere between $185 and $190 billion.” Oracle's will probably be around $75 billion.
04:37 — Oracle and Google Cloud have risen to the top of the Cloud Wars Top 10 because they brought innovation at levels in technology and go-to-market, how they think about customers, deployment models, and so forth, that have really set the new standard for what's happening in the AI cloud business now. Seeking outside funding to meet this demand shows another way to do it.
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In this special report, John Siefert, CEO, Dynamic Communities and Cloud Wars, speaks with Robbie Morrison about Velocio's acquisition of Domain Six and what the move means for customers, partners, and the broader Microsoft ecosystem. Morrison explains how the acquisition expands Velocio's enterprise capabilities, vertical-industry expertise, and delivery capacity while strengthening its ability to help organizations modernize around cloud, data, and AI.
Velocio Expands Expertise
The Big Themes:
- Domain Six Expands Velocio's Reach: Velocio's acquisition of Domain Six represents more than a simple expansion of headcount. Robbie Morrison describes the acquisition as a strategic move that adds highly skilled consulting talent, enterprise delivery capabilities, and valuable intellectual property in specialized vertical markets. Domain Six brings expertise in areas such as rental businesses and professional services, allowing Velocio to broaden its market reach while deepening its industry-specific knowledge. Consulting is fundamentally a people-centric business, making the addition of experienced professionals especially valuable.
- Customers Gain Access to Broader Expertise: One of the biggest benefits of the acquisition is the expanded access customers receive to specialized talent and services. Morrison notes that existing Velocio customers will gain access to Domain Six's industry expertise, while Domain Six customers will benefit from Velocio's larger global team and deeper Microsoft platform knowledge. The combined organization can now offer expertise spanning Azure, Dynamics, Microsoft 365, Fabric, data platforms, and business applications.
- Governance Has Become a Competitive Advantage: Data governance is no longer just a security requirement. Morrison explains that governance, access controls, documentation, and process discipline have become business enablers. Proper governance ensures that the right employees can access the right information at the right time, allowing organizations to move faster and make better decisions. As AI systems increasingly depend on organizational data, governance frameworks become essential for both compliance and performance.
The Big Quote: “Everything that we do is people-centric. We're a consulting business at heart, and a consulting business is built on the knowledge and the abilities of the people you bring in, so bringing in that great team at Domain Six was key."
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Connect with Robbie on LinkedIn, read the press release about the Domain 6 acquisition, or check out the Velocio website.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I look at how ServiceNow's AI strategy, open platform, and workflow data fabric are driving its next phase of growth.
Highlights
00:02 — ServiceNow is off to a hot start, not only with its quarterly results, but also in how CEO Bill McDermott is framing where the company is right now and, in terms of that, how that new position, which he says is, "We're 100% AI native," is going to allow them to pursue five what he called hyper-growth markets for quite some time.
01:06 — Who is AI native, and who is just sort of glossing over, applying some AI lipstick to their traditional solutions and technologies? The term that ServiceNow uses to refer to that latter category is AI sidecars, where they say that's just a little AI glomming onto traditional technology, and that's becoming less appealing to customers.
02:34 — Among the highlights he pointed out to support the strength of the company, he said, "We've got a $28 billion RPO, remaining performance obligation, that grew 23.5% in Q1." In addition to that, he said, "We've got the most open enterprise platform."
03:14 — First, its core ITSM business. He said with the complexity that's going on in enterprises and the more reliance on data that's going to be taking place here in the AI era, we're going to see a 50x —not 50%, 50x — boom in the number of tickets that are being sent through for IT support.
04:12 — He talked about what's going on there with Moveworks and the changes that ServiceNow has made to that, and how that's going to simplify things and help bring down the anxiety some people have about AI. And finally, he said, "Our workflow data fabric," which helps pull all the data together, is so essential for what's going on now with AI.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I discuss how Workday's Extend platform is helping developers build faster while maintaining governance and trust.
Highlights
00:03 — Earlier this week, Workday held its DevCon conference in Las Vegas. It was the biggest DevCon that Workday has ever had. They had 8,000 attendees, and of course, these days, the star of the show was new agentic capabilities that, in this case, Workday is pumping into its Workday Extend platform.
00:53 — This Developer Agent is being added to a number of new capabilities within the Extend platform, and I listened to this whole roundtable discussion, and a number of things jumped out. I just want to share some of the reactions with you because they give a sense of what's going on here among developers in the early stages of the AI revolution.
01:58 — One person called it a real game-changer, this Developer Agent, and she said, "What used to take me days, I can now do in about one hour." Another person said that, with Workday ensuring that all the guardrails around security, trust, and governance are there, "I can build now without losing any sleep every night."
03:08 — This person said actually hiring for software engineers here in the AI era is way up. I think what came across in this roundtable that Workday held at DevCon was the optimism that these folks showed. We're not only surviving the changes brought by AI, we're going to have chances to do more than we ever have before.
04:12 — Here they see that now the work, the time, the effort, the energy, the brain muscle that they are putting into their work is going to result in better output, more impact on the business, more capability, because the technology through these agents is both taking care of lower-level work and ensuring governance, trust, and security are wired in.
- Check out this press release outlining the major introductions at DevCon.
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In this episode of the AI Agent & Copilot Podcast, Giuseppe Ianni, podcast host and industry interviewer, is joined for a second time by Nandita Puri, PhD Researcher at Georgia Tech working at the intersection of bioinformatics and biochemistry. The conversation explores how AI is transforming drug discovery, accelerating hypothesis generation, reducing experimental costs, improving success rates, enabling rare disease research, and paving the way for virtual cell simulation.
Key Takeaways
- AI Is Creating a New Drug Discovery Workflow: Puri describes a major transition from traditional laboratory-first research toward a hybrid approach combining computational and experimental science. Researchers can now use AI, machine learning, and pattern recognition to analyze massive biological datasets before conducting expensive laboratory work. According to Puri, "I see a healthy combination of 50% dry lab and wet-lab validation becoming the emerging standard." This shift allows scientists to move beyond manual analysis and leverage computational intelligence to generate stronger hypotheses, identify promising targets faster, and focus laboratory resources on the most promising opportunities.
- Higher Success Rates Mean Lower Costs and Less Waste: One of the most immediate benefits of AI in drug discovery is improved experimental efficiency. Puri notes that individual experiments can cost "$10,000-$12,000" and historically have carried significant failure risk. By consolidating fragmented datasets and identifying meaningful biological signals, AI helps researchers prioritize stronger hypotheses before entering the laboratory. Puri explained that some AI-assisted binder-development efforts achieved "40% 50% of success rate," compared with previous rates of "10% 5%." These improvements reduce wasted resources, shorten research timelines, and allow scientific teams to evaluate more potential treatments with the same budget.
- AI Is Unlocking Opportunities for Rare Disease Research: Rare diseases have historically faced funding and development challenges due to limited patient populations and expensive clinical validation requirements. Puri explains that AI is helping overcome these barriers by generating synthetic datasets, identifying hidden biological relationships, and revealing common signaling pathways between diseases. She notes that "AI is really, really helping rare disease industry to go forward."
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explore why OpenAI could soon rank among the world's biggest enterprise software companies.
Highlights
00:03 — Early this year, OpenAI joined the Cloud Wars Top 10 in the number 10 spot. Because of the impact OpenAI has had, moving from the ChatGPT explosion three and a half years ago up to now, and their move very aggressively into the enterprise, they are a player of a major type with huge potential, both in what they're doing themselves and the partnerships they have.
01:07 — The biggest one turns out to be that right now the enterprise part of the OpenAI business is very soon going to be the biggest, and I think it is currently the fastest-growing part of OpenAI. Denise Dresser [Chief Revenue Officer, OpenAI] said that enterprise revenue at OpenAI is now 40% of total revenue, and by the end of this year it'll be 50%.
02:05 — OpenAI Enterprise has two million enterprise customers right now. A year ago, she said it was one million. They're not all giant companies and they're not all paying OpenAI a lot of money, but what they're doing is seeding the way for future opportunities and growth. OpenAI hinted that they're on about a $25 billion run rate.
03:04 — If OpenAI grows 60% this year, making that $25 billion run rate $40 billion, then 50% of that going to enterprise would be a $20 billion business at a fairly conservative guess. It could be closer to $25 billion, making them a bigger, faster-growing enterprise AI software player than Workday, Palantir, and ServiceNow.
04:33 — Customers see that there's a lot of potential in the technology that OpenAI has, but they also want to know if OpenAI has the capability to support it. Dresser said that by the end of this year, OpenAI plans to have 300,000 trained consultants for the OpenAI Enterprise business. Competition is great. It's going to make everybody better.
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In this Cloud Wars conversation, Bob Evans sits down with Bonnie Tinder, Founder and CEO of Raven Intelligence, to discuss how AI is reshaping the systems-integrator (SI) market. Their discussion explores how AI-powered migration agents, deployment assistants, and new implementation models are dramatically reducing project timelines, staffing requirements, and costs. Bonnie explains why traditional implementation approaches are giving way to leaner, expertise-driven engagements centered on outcomes rather than labor hours.
Episode 60 | Outcomes Beat Implementations
The Big Themes:
- AI Compresses Implementation Costs: Tinder notes that organizations often spend 10 to 11 times the cost of software licenses on implementation services. AI is beginning to challenge that model by automating some of the most labor-intensive aspects of projects, particularly data migration and system conversion work. Migration agents and deployment assistants can significantly reduce the need for large teams of junior consultants performing repetitive tasks. As implementation timelines shrink and staffing requirements decline, customers will increasingly expect lower costs and faster results. Vendors are also pushing for these efficiencies because lengthy implementations delay customer value realization. The result is mounting pressure across the SI industry to adopt AI-enabled delivery models that are leaner, faster, and more outcome-focused.
- Outcome-Based Thinking Is Accelerating: Throughout the discussion, Bob and Bonnie discuss the growing demand for measurable business outcomes. Customers are increasingly unwilling to tolerate expensive implementations that fail to deliver value. This pressure is encouraging software vendors and SI firms to move toward outcome-oriented engagements and pricing models. Instead of charging primarily for labor and project duration, firms must demonstrate tangible improvements in efficiency, productivity, or business performance.
- Boutique Firms May Gain an Advantage: Bonnie sees a major opportunity for boutique consulting firms in the AI Era. Historically, large global systems integrators benefited from scale, brand recognition, and access to specialized tools. AI is leveling parts of that playing field by making sophisticated capabilities more broadly available. Smaller firms can now compete using many of the same technologies while offering highly experienced teams and direct client engagement.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I look at Microsoft's latest moves to help organizations deploy and scale AI agents without sacrificing control.
Highlights
00:10 — In the latest updates to Copilot Studio, Microsoft has introduced a series of improvements focusing on visibility and governance, allowing users to expand automation while maintaining control. Regarding visibility, the new analytics viewer role provides read-only access to an agent's analytics page.
00:36 — On top of this, Microsoft has expanded its agent usage estimator to include Dynamics 365 agents, enabling users to forecast Copilot credit consumption across both Copilot Studio and Dynamics 365 from one place. Microsoft already enables users to embed Copilot Studio agents into workflows using its agent node function.
01:16 — Other updates to workflows are designed to enable scaling without introducing governance risk. Workflows can connect to a larger toolkit, such as MCP server-enabled tools, to make it easier to take actions in systems, yet still within the Microsoft Security Framework. Users can also utilize agents built in Copilot Studio to bring interactive app experiences directly into Copilot Chat.
01:48 — This means they can review data, update records, approve requests, or create assets, all without having to switch tools. These are just some of the updates that Microsoft has been working on throughout April, and I really enjoy following the trajectory of these updates because they illustrate to me the current stage of our collective journey with AI.
02:11 — It's clear that agents are integrated into many systems, and now is the time to scale them securely. So, if you're still considering when and if to introduce AI-driven practices into your business, major directional changes like this should serve as a cautionary tale.
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In this episode of the AI Agent & Copilot Podcast, Giuseppe Ianni, AI Practice Lead and industry thought leader, is joined by Nandita Puri, PhD Candidate at Georgia Tech and founder of Illumia.bio. Puri discusses how AI is transforming drug discovery by creating massive therapeutic libraries, connecting fragmented biomedical knowledge, and dramatically accelerating research timelines. Their conversation explores the convergence of AI, structural biology, and life sciences.
Key Takeaways
- AI Expands the Search Space for New Therapeutics: Traditional drug discovery focuses on identifying a single drug for a single target, but Puri argues that diseases are complex biological systems requiring broader approaches. Her team is building an AI-generated library of more than 10 billion molecules across multiple therapeutic modalities. By treating drug discovery as a combinatorics problem, researchers can explore vastly larger therapeutic possibilities.
- Connecting Fragmented Scientific Knowledge Accelerates Discovery: One of the biggest bottlenecks in pharmaceutical research is the fragmented nature of scientific information. Researchers often spend years reviewing hundreds of papers before forming a hypothesis. Puri describes how her team is integrating 60 to 70 public databases into a connected knowledge platform that links diseases, genes, proteins, pathways, and drug candidates. As she notes, "When we type a disease, we know exactly the gene, we exactly know the protein." This consolidation dramatically reduces research time and enables scientists to make more informed decisions earlier in the discovery process.
- AI Creates New Opportunities for Rare Disease Research: Rare diseases have historically been underserved because of the high costs and long timelines associated with traditional drug development. Puri says that bringing a drug to market can require "$1 billion and about 10 years." By shortening research cycles from years to months, AI lowers the barriers to investigating diseases that pharmaceutical companies may have previously avoided. This acceleration enables smaller teams to pursue treatments for conditions affecting fewer patients while increasing the likelihood that promising therapies can move forward to validation and clinical testing.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I examine how Google Cloud is using AI Threat Defense to help customers fight AI-powered cyberattacks.
Highlights
00:03 — If you're going to be number one on the Cloud Wars Top 10, you've got to fight to keep that position and stay ahead of the incredible and highly capable competition across the Cloud Wars Top 10. Google Cloud, I believe, has taken yet another big step in ensuring that it remains the number one company on the Cloud Wars Top 10 by launching a new cybersecurity approach.
00:57 — The person leading that is Francis deSouza, who is the Chief Operating Officer of Google Cloud, but also president of its security products. In a blog post last week outlining what this new AI Threat Defense is all about, deSouza said it's time now that business customers be able to fight AI with AI, to defend against these very powerful incursions that the bad guys are going to be making using AI.
01:58 — So, there needs to be, among customers, a big shift in how they do things. It can't be, "Let's just do a little bit more of what we've always done." There's got to be a new approach, and Google Cloud believes it's got that now with this AI Threat Defense for Google Cloud. I believe this is the latest in an ongoing series of steps they've made around cybersecurity.
02:54 — About a year ago — or several months ago — the company announced its intention to acquire Wiz, with its end-to-end threat monitoring and awareness capabilities. That deal has now been completed, and the most recent step, I believe, is the launch of this new solution called Google AI Threat Defense.
03:56 — Now, I'm not trying to read more into that than needs to be said. Maybe Google Cloud AI Threat Defense seemed overly clunky, but I wonder if, in some ways, parent company Google is riding this high now. Google Cloud itself had a growth rate of 63%, up from 48% in the prior quarter, so the company is definitely on a run here.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I analyze how Marc Benioff is using Agentforce to drive larger deals, stronger customer spending, and new AI metrics.
Highlights
00:02 — We see Salesforce is off to a good start here in its fiscal '27. For Q1 ended, let's see, April 30, it reported that overall revenue was up by 13% to $11.1 billion. I want to look into some of the big numbers within the Q1 presentation, and also the earnings call. It, I think, revealed just how heavily AI, and in particular Agentforce, have become the growth engines here inside Salesforce.
00:31 —Salesforce, after wandering for a few years trying to get its margins right to please institutional investors, is now riding the AI Revolution. So, I've got 10 numbers that I pulled out from that presentation and the earnings call. Agentforce was involved in, and Benioff said drove, almost half of the company's 100 largest Q1 deals. It had 98 that were $1 million or more.
01:15 — Agentforce was in about half of those. The most active AI users that Salesforce has, the ones doing what it calls agentic work units, detailing specific tasks that agents have completed, it said the most active AI users now have increased their spending with Salesforce by 1.5x from the previous year. So clearly customers are seeing the value in this now.
01:46 — Benioff said that over the years Salesforce has generated many, many millions of leads, more than its human salespeople could follow up on over that time. It put Agentforce on it, and autonomously it contacted 220,000 of these customers interested in Salesforce but who never got a call back, generating $42 million in pipeline from that.
02:45 —One other interesting point I'll note here is that Salesforce began to list Now tokens processed in the quarter, and it said it was 28.3 trillion tokens processed in Q1 through Salesforce as agents and applications. Now that's a number that it says it's going to be revealing every quarter here, and I think it's a great idea. It carries some risks.
03:13 — It's a great idea because it shows not just what people are spending on AI, but the work that is getting done in what they call these AWUs, or Agentic Work Units. Salesforce said that relative to Q1, the average work units undertaken by Salesforce customers was up 152%. That's sequential, quarter-to-quarter.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I look at how Microsoft and EY are combining engineering and consulting expertise to scale AI transformation.
Highlights
00:10 — Microsoft and EY have announced a substantial enhancement to their existing partnership, committing to invest over a billion dollars over five years into a new initiative aimed at helping organizations to scale AI.
00:40 — So, what's the plan for it? Well, it will combine Microsoft's forward-deployed engineers, or FDEs, with the expertise of EY industry professionals to accelerate AI adoption. Their approach focuses on, and I quote, “change management delivery models powered by Microsoft's FDE AI-native hypervelocity engineering approach.”
01:05 — Now, this initiative will see teams of EY business consultants and Microsoft engineers co-develop AI solutions tailored to address clients' highest-value business opportunities. This collaboration is steering companies toward the goal of becoming frontier firms. It's a term coined by Microsoft that I've used many times, that's gaining traction across the industry.
01:29 — Frontier firms are organizations that integrate agentic AI with the human workforce at scale and continuously optimize AI initiatives while adapting their company culture to thrive in this new future. Now, an interesting aspect of this collaboration is that EY, already closely aligned with Microsoft in terms of partners, was in fact the client zero for the initiative.
01:56 — This means they [the EY team] have an insider's understanding of what works well, how to adapt to Microsoft products, and how to effectively share this knowledge with potential customers and clients.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I break down why Workday sees agentic AI as the key to defending its 80 million-user base.
Highlights
00:02 — Workday co-founder Aneel Bhusri resumed his position as CEO. He wanted to help guide the company through the AI Revolution and help bring a solid knowledge of what's happening and how Workday as a company has to be able to innovate and create and get with the AI-native program as rapidly as possible.
00:45 — It's got to be able to move fast, and the margin for error is slight. The Q1 results, which came out last week, I think prove that Bhusri's got the company on the right track. Subscription revenue up 14.3%, almost $2.4 billion. Their total subscription revenue backlog was up 11% to over $27 billion.
01:23 — It's now got 80 million users under contract. Now, the good and the bad of that is those are 80 million users who are heavily dependent right now on yesterday's technology. So, the good thing for Workday is they've got these 80 million users, and Workday's got the first shot at converting them.
02:23 — Bhusri said, “In technology transitions — and I’m old enough to have lived through a few of them — you have to put that new technology front and center. It’s got to be your absolute top priority in everything you do.”
03:38 — Bhusri said customers seem to want to have both open technology and the ability to use agents from lots of vendors, but they've also got to ensure that they've got the proper guardrails for compliance and legal compliance, and ensuring the privacy and safety of their customers. He also said it's really important for Workday to reinstitute and reinvigorate a startup mentality.
04:48 — So, Aneel Bhusri is one of the good guys in the tech industry. He's been around a long time. His return here, I called him back in February “the reluctant CEO,” because he was eager a few years ago to get out of the CEO role, but he knows now that with what's going on in the market and this vast change of technology brought forth by AI, he needed to be CEO.
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Bonnie Tinder is the founder and CEO of Raven Intelligence, an independent B2B peer review site that amplifies the voice of the customer. She focuses on software customers, consulting partners, and software vendors and helps identify the best partners for their needs. In this episode, she and Bob Evans speak about Workday’s accelerating AI transformation following its Innovation Summit. Bonnie offers a practitioner’s perspective on how Workday is rethinking enterprise software around agentic AI, faster deployments, embedded governance, and a startup-like culture shift under returning leadership.
Episode 59 | Workday’s AI Reset
The Big Themes:
- Workday’s Startup Reboot: Bonnie Tinder’s biggest observation was that Workday appears to be entering a new operational chapter defined by urgency, sharper execution, and a startup mindset. Rather than behaving like an incumbent defending market share, Workday seems to be restructuring around focused AI ownership and entrepreneurial velocity. Bonnie connected this directly to Aneel Bhusri's leadership style, comparing it to Steve Jobs returning to simplify Apple’s priorities.
- No One Wants DIY Enterprise AI: A major theme was the rejection of the “build it yourself” narrative for enterprise core systems. Bonnie and Bob both strongly challenged the idea that enterprises will vibe-code their own payroll, financials, or HCM systems. The reason is simple: risk. Enterprise systems are compliance-heavy, operationally critical, and intolerant of failure. Bonnie’s “you can’t get payroll 90% correct” line perfectly captured the reality.
- CEO Leadership Is Non-Negotiable: AI transformation must be CEO-led. Bottom-up experimentation alone is unlikely to produce meaningful enterprise change. AI affects operating models, workflows, investment priorities, talent strategy, governance, and competitive differentiation. That requires executive sponsorship and strategic ownership. Bob argued that companies cannot approach AI using 2023 or 2024 decision frameworks. Instead, leadership teams must rethink vendor evaluation, operational transformation, and business outcome measurement. Bonnie reinforced that major transformation initiatives succeed when leadership drives adoption from the top.
The Big Quote: “The real AI gold rush isn't in the models, it's really that unglamorous work of moving 30-year-old legacy systems to a point where agents can actually do something with the data.”
More from Bonnie Tinder:
Connect with Bonnie on LinkedIn.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I examine why Agentforce Operations could remove one of enterprise AI’s biggest adoption barriers.
Highlights
00:03 — While the flow of innovative and transformational agentic AI technologies has certainly shifted from a trickle to a flood, there are still many barriers to success, albeit barriers that companies across the board are diligently working to address and overcome.
00:33 — [Many] workflows were built for manual human oversight, often loosely governed and entirely unsuitable for agentic AI. Now, Salesforce aims to tackle this back-office issue and eliminate these bottlenecks with a new product called Agentforce Operations.
01:24 — The result is a system where, after manual processes are digitized, a task [can] take a mere amount of minutes [and] agents can handle the heavy lifting with human oversight. Business users can continually improve these processes without needing any coding knowledge.
01:48 —Aman Naimat, SVP and GM of Agentforce Operations at Salesforce said the following about this new product: “As companies accelerate AI adoption to become agentic enterprises, most are still burdened by an underlying layer of fragmented manual processes across supply chain, procurement, finance, and the broader back office.”
02:43 — This, particularly, is a clear example of a seamless interaction between agents and human operators. The human in the loop can specify the task that needs to be automated, while the system improves the quality of how the agent operates.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I cover a recent court case leading to OpenAI having to clarify that ChatGPT is not a lawyer.
Highlights
00:10 — There has been confusion about what OpenAI's core product, ChatGPT, is and isn't, particularly in a recent court case. OpenAI clarified that ChatGPT is not a lawyer after an individual used the AI tool to build her case and would cite it as a source.
01:30 — In its motion for dismissal, ChatGPT had to very specifically note that it's not a lawyer, it is not a person, and it does not practice law. OpenAI defined ChatGPT as a set of rules and words that help people understand what's going on around them.
02:30 — One of the world's most technologically advanced companies and innovators had to spell this out in court. There is a fair amount of humor to be found in this.
03:00 — To quote Pogo, "We have met the enemy, and it is us." Humans should be rightly proud of the tech innovations and AI advances emerging. However, there's always going to be this goofiness out on the fringes where things have to be spelled out.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I unpack Microsoft’s Work Trend Index and what it reveals about the rise of agentic AI in the workplace.
Highlights
00:09 — Microsoft's 2026 Work Trend Index annual report is titled "Agents, Human Agency, and the Opportunity for Every Organization." Microsoft analyzed trillions of anonymized M365 productivity signals, surveyed upwards of 20,000 workers in 10 countries, and consulted with experts in AI, work, and organizational psychology. Here are some of the most revealing insights.
01:25 — An analysis of 100,000 Copilot chats found that 49% of conversations were focused on supporting cognitive tasks, ultimately enhancing the capabilities of these human participants. On top of that, 66% of surveyed AI users reported that AI has enabled them to dedicate more time to high-value work.
01:49 — Microsoft states that close to one in five workers are in what they call the frontier zone, which refers to what they describe as "the sweet spot where organizational capability and individual readiness reinforce each other."
02:14 — Microsoft says that the key to alignment is for companies to focus on AI absorption rather than simply AI adoption, and this involves redesigning how work is done and turning AI outputs into actionable insights.
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In this Cloud Wars special report, Bob Evans speaks with Chad Wahlquist, Architect at Palantir, about the company’s explosive Q1 performance and the deeper forces driving enterprise AI adoption. Wahlquist explains how Palantir’s model goes far beyond traditional software, combining forward deployed engineering, ontology, agentic AI, and enterprise infrastructure to accelerate customer outcomes.
AI Infrastructure Rising
The Big Themes:
- AI Building AI: One of the most striking themes is the shift from companies building AI products to building AI products with AI. Wahlquist describes a major evolution in enterprise delivery models, where Palantir has moved from “boot camps” to “agent camps,” using AI agents to help rapidly construct customer solutions. This dramatically compresses timelines from projects expected to take months down to days. The deeper implication is that AI is no longer just the product layer; it is becoming the production mechanism itself.
- SAP Migration Gets Reinvented: The SAP partnership emerges as one of the most strategically significant parts of the discussion. Wahlquist describes Palantir helping customers accelerate complex ERP migrations, including ECC-to-S/4 transformations, acquired-company integrations, and even mainframe modernization. Traditionally, these efforts consume years and hundreds of millions of dollars. Palantir’s approach uses ontology plus agentic frameworks to interpret structured and unstructured enterprise information, identify mismatches, and automate execution paths. He claims 50%+ time compression in migration work.
- Efficiency As Corporate Proof Point: One fascinating element is Palantir’s operating model itself. Evans references Alex Karp’s claim that a company of Palantir’s scale would traditionally employ thousands of salespeople, while Palantir operates with a dramatically leaner commercial organization. Wahlquist argues that product effectiveness changes the equation: engineers demonstrating working systems on customer data become the real sales force. He also notes Palantir internally runs on its own software, using Foundry-based systems for CRM, ticketing, finance, and operations. This creates both operational efficiency and credibility.
The Big Quote: “What I’m seeing here is really the difference between, hey, I’m building AI products to I’m building AI products with AI.”
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Connect with Chad on LinkedIn, or learn about Palantir Foundry.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I unpack why Palantir’s customer-first AI approach is outperforming much larger rivals.
Highlights
00:06 — One of the drivers in 2025 and 2026 of that surge in the greatest growth market here has been Palantir, relatively small. It'll probably do seven and a half, $8 billion in the coming year.
00:42 — So I had a great chat, you can see it all, a one-on-one video conversation with Palantir architect Chad Wahlquist. Palantir's titles are a little peculiar, right? It has its own way of doing things, as it does in a number of ways. Chad's not just a typical enterprise architect.
01:23 — One of the things that's unique about Palantir is how its customers will come, sign an original deal, and then in a very short period of time, three, four, six months, greatly increase that deal because it's showing the value of the AI to the customer.
02:18 — Palantir is the company, I think, in sort of the more modern era, that's really brought this to the forefront. Chad and I talked about the partnership and the significance of that for customers, bringing together the immense data and industry expertise that SAP has.
03:15 — It's not a big rip-and-replace thing. How can we build on what you have and get you some very quick returns on this? Palantir's number one on the growth chart at 70%. Google Cloud surged into the number two spot at 63%.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I examine how AI demand is reshaping rivalries between Google Cloud, AWS, NVIDIA, and Anthropic.
Highlights
00:03 — According to reports, Anthropic has committed to a $200 billion five-year agreement for Google Cloud services and Google-designed chips, a deal that could account for more than 40% of Google Cloud's revenue backlog.
00:18 — This represents yet another escalation in the rapidly expanding partnership between Google Cloud's parent company, Alphabet, and Anthropic, following Alphabet's previously announced $40 billion investment into the company.
00:49 — The company also holds considerable infrastructure deals with providers, including AWS and NVIDIA, and what this deal underscores is the extraordinary scale of demand for AI services. The need for compute capacity has grown so large that even a $200 billion agreement may not be enough to meet future requirements.
01:33 — However, companies like Google Cloud, with the infrastructure required to support hyperscale AI development, are positioned at the very center of this massive transformation.
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In this Cloud Wars conversation, Bob Evans speaks with Matt Renner, Chief Revenue Officer at Google Cloud, about the explosive acceleration of enterprise AI adoption and how Google Cloud is scaling to meet it. Renner explains why customers are demanding immediate business outcomes, not experimental pilots years down the road, and shares Google Cloud’s response through expanded field engineering investments, ecosystem funding, and deeper enterprise co-creation. The discussion also explores Google’s differentiated AI stack strategy, the intensifying competitive landscape, and why AI security could become one of the industry’s most significant next battlegrounds.Google’s AI Scaling Play
The Big Themes:
- AI Demand Has Moved Beyond Experimentation: Matt Renner makes clear that enterprise AI has entered a fundamentally different phase. Companies are no longer satisfied with proof-of-concept experimentation or exploratory pilots. Instead, executive teams want measurable business value quickly. This urgency is reshaping vendor expectations, deployment models, and customer engagement strategies. Google Cloud is seeing demand at a pace that traditional scaling models cannot satisfy, which is driving operational changes. This is not a speculative future trend, it is already happening.
- The $750 Million Ecosystem Expansion Multiplies Capacity: Google Cloud’s $750 million ecosystem investment complements the FDE initiative by scaling partner-led implementation capacity. Renner explains that Google alone cannot meet enterprise AI demand, so partner ecosystems become force multipliers. The strategy is to expand from hundreds of specialists into thousands of technical practitioners capable of building agents, workflows, and AI-powered solutions. This reflects a practical recognition that enterprise AI requires broad execution capability, not just core platform excellence.
- The AI Market Reset Is Reshaping Cloud Competition: Renner describes AI as a market reset that is materially changing competitive cloud dynamics. Google Cloud’s growth rates, contrasted against hyperscaler rivals, are presented as evidence that strategic positioning matters. The broader takeaway is that AI has altered enterprise buying criteria, infrastructure priorities, and vendor differentiation. Long-term investments in chips, models, data infrastructure, and platform integration are beginning to show commercial returns. Rather than incremental cloud evolution, Renner presents this as a structural shift in the market. Enterprises are reallocating attention and budgets around AI capability.
The Big Quote: “We’re seeing unprecedented demand for Google Cloud products infrastructure, all driven, frankly, from AI."
More from Matt Renner and Google Cloud:
Connect with Matt Renner on LinkedIn or learn more about Google Cloud AI.
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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I look at how Google Cloud is pairing technical innovation with go-to-market execution to fuel AI growth.
Highlights
00:00 — One of the fastest-growing companies in the Cloud Wars Top 10 is Google Cloud, and it has just launched a program of Forward Deployed Engineers (FDEs), specializing in AI to help accelerate AI transformation at the point of the customer.
00:46 — I had a chance to speak about this new AI FDE program with Matt Renner, President and Chief Revenue Officer at Google Cloud, and he was talking about how this brings the innovation out at the point of the customer, the unique challenges customers are facing right now.
01:38 — It isn't Google Cloud's attempt to get into the services business so much as this is what the demand is from customers now: they need to get their AI capabilities up to speed as quickly as possible to become the AI-powered type of company they're going to need to be.
02:25 — Google Cloud, as I've mentioned before, has always been an on-the-front-edge technological innovator, but over the past couple of years, it's been bringing its go-to-market capabilities and go-to-market innovation up.
03:36 — These efforts are going to be ways to help ensure that customers have the support, the resources, the expertise from Google Cloud and the ecosystem to be able to evolve, innovate, and succeed more rapidly than ever before.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I connect SAP, Palantir, and Ford to AI’s expanding economic disruption.
Highlights
00:11 — Recently, both SAP, number four on the Cloud Wars Top 10, and Palantir, number five on the Cloud Wars Top 10, have asked: Are we reaching the end of the term software or software company?
00:47 — But I think their idea is that, what we've thought of as software, what we've come to picture it to be, the image we have in our head, the mindset we have around software, is just getting blown away by what AI is capable of.
01:07 — Last week at the SAP Sapphire event, CEO Christian Klein said, “Will SAP be a software company in the future?” He asked the SAP Joule AI Assistant to answer the question, and Joule said, “SAP is going to be a business AI company.”
02:00 — Palantir CEO Alex Karp said, “You can't just lump what we're doing into the term software.” He said, “We're going to have to create a new term, because what we're doing goes beyond software,” and suggested the term AI infrastructure.
04:07 — Ford had built an enormous factory to build electric vehicle batteries, but now is considering shifting toward batteries for AI data centers, showing how AI’s impact is extending beyond tech into the broader global economy.
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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I unpack SAP CTO Philipp Herzig’s perspective on AI, APIs, and the company’s next era beyond traditional software.
Highlights
00:01 — As part of our ongoing analysis of the massive changes that SAP rolled out this past week at their Sapphire event in Orlando, I had an interesting one-on-one conversation with SAP Chief Technology Officer Philipp Herzig, where he discussed a range of things. Particularly this notion of how, as SAP begins to move beyond applications into the realm of AI, what that means across everything from their new Business AI platform [to] updates to their API policy.
00:37 — I think some people got their knickers in a knot unnecessarily over those API changes and the general pace of innovation that not only SAP is cranking out, but that customers are working very hard to consume so that those customers can become leaders in their industries.
01:24 — How does this shape the company that SAP is becoming in the future? And even as talked about with CEO Christian Klein posing the question during his keynote, will SAP be a software company in the future?
02:07 — One of the things that Herzig said was, we've got so many more people using more and more of our APIs, agents are going to access data from all across the company, and certain things just have to be tightened up. One of the biggest things [SAP] did, was try to ensure that there's more security.
03:20 — So, lively discussion here. I think this was a momentous event for SAP, the things they introduced, the way they're talking about going to market, the new sorts of expertise they're putting in. Philipp touches on a lot of this and gives a good insight into the foundational technology layer.
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Bob Evans speaks with SAP CTO Philipp Herzig from SAP Sapphire in Orlando about SAP’s AI strategy, platform evolution, customer modernization challenges, governance, and enterprise-scale agent deployment. Herzig lays out SAP’s positioning around openness, business AI, autonomous agents, security, and migration support, while addressing confusion around API policy changes and fair-use limits.
SAP’s AI Inflection Point
The Big Themes:
- SAP’s AI Platform Is Becoming Cohesive: A major theme in the conversation is that SAP is presenting a more integrated AI vision rather than a collection of disconnected announcements. Herzig describes a layered architecture spanning UX, autonomous assistants, business process orchestration, governance, and the underlying AI platform. The emphasis is on a consistent enterprise AI framework rather than isolated tools.
- Migration Support Is Becoming Strategic: Migration is no longer framed as a technical back-office concern. Instead, it's becoming a strategic AI enabler. Herzig discusses SAP’s toolchain investments, including LeanIX, Signavio, migration automation, testing support, code modernization, and agent-assisted implementation. The idea is to reduce friction in modernization so customers can reach AI readiness faster. Instead of treating migration as merely an ERP upgrade journey, SAP increasingly positions it as foundational infrastructure for enterprise AI transformation.
- Change Management Extends Beyond Technology: Herzig acknowledges that deploying AI agents is not simply a software problem, it’s an organizational transformation issue. While SAP can accelerate technical deployment through tooling, governance, observability, and automation, customers must still rethink workflows, roles, and operating models. The discussion around developer productivity, AI-assisted coding, and human-agent collaboration reinforces this broader perspective.
The Big Quote: ““There are good agents out there… there’s also a lot of really bad agents out there… and they, of course, set the enterprise system under risk.”
More from SAP and Philipp Herzig:
Connect with Philipp Herzig on Linkedin or learn about SAP Sapphire.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explore how SAP’s AI Revolution could redefine enterprise software through agents, data, and industry-specific intelligence.
Highlights
00:03 — We are reporting here from the Sapphire show floor in Orlando. It's been a wild week here, and I had a great chance to talk with SAP Chief Operating Officer, Sebastian Steinhäuser about some of the changes that are going on there inside what I call SAP's AI Revolution.
00:21 — Covering everything from what it's doing with agents, how it's redefining their apps, how it's building up its Data Platform, and more. Sebastian offers some great insights into all of that, and we talked about it in a full-length video linked to down below.
01:13 — (Sebastian offers insights about) the rise of data within SAP becoming the foundation for everything, the Business Data Cloud moving into a very powerful area, the Business AI Platform now consolidating some different sort of platforms and technologies that SAP had so that customers can gain more from that more quickly.
02:00 — SAP sees the world, and Sebastian describes this, where there's going to be tens, hundreds of thousands of agents, perhaps millions, you know, a few years out. And certainly SAP is not going to build all of those. So it's going to be the partners that do this.
03:09 — SAP is more focused than ever before on delivering not just code (that happens to be what they make) but what SAP's real focus is: delivering superb business outcomes for customers.
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At SAP Sapphire in Orlando, Bob Evans sat down with Sebastian Steinhäuser to discuss what may be one of the most consequential strategic shifts in SAP’s history. As enterprise AI moves from experimentation to execution, Steinhäuser outlines SAP’s vision for the autonomous enterprise: where AI agents, assistants, business data, and deep industry expertise come together to solve real operational problems.
AI with Industry Depth
The Big Themes:
- Customers Want Outcomes, Not AI Demos: A recurring theme in the conversation is that enterprise leaders are not buying AI for novelty. They want measurable business outcomes. Customers are focused on solving hard operational problems such as improving supply chain resilience, winning in retail execution, streamlining regulated manufacturing, and modernizing enterprise workflows. This reflects a broader evolution in enterprise buying behavior. The AI conversation has moved beyond experimentation into operational accountability.
- The Autonomous Enterprise Is SAP’s North Star: SAP’s central narrative at Sapphire is the autonomous enterprise. Steinhäuser describes a future where AI agents and human workers collaborate, with AI taking responsibility for repetitive, process-heavy, and data-intensive tasks while employees focus on higher-value decision-making. This is more than a product launch — it is SAP’s strategic framework for the next phase of enterprise software. The company references hundreds of AI agents and dozens of assistants spanning functional domains. Importantly, SAP is positioning these capabilities as practical rather than speculative.
- Ecosystem Scale Will Determine Execution: SAP clearly sees its partner ecosystem as critical to AI transformation at scale. Steinhäuser points to thousands of ecosystem participants at Sapphire and outlines investments designed to accelerate migration, implementation, and AI activation. This reflects enterprise reality: large organizations rarely transform through software vendors alone. Systems integrators, consulting firms, implementation specialists, and migration partners often determine whether transformation succeeds.
The Big Quote: “Building the technology is one thing. Really changing processes, people, and systems to adapt AI, it’s a totally different one."
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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I examine why OpenAI bringing frontier models to AWS signals a new era of AI platform pragmatism.
Highlights
00:03 — Hot on the heels of the news that OpenAI and Microsoft have re-explored the terms of their partnership, leading to a much more flexible outcome for OpenAI, the company has introduced an expanded partnership with AWS to bring OpenAI's latest models to Amazon Bedrock.
00:23 — The new solutions currently in preview include the launch of Codex on Amazon Bedrock and Amazon Bedrock managed agents powered by OpenAI. Now AWS customers will be able to leverage the latest OpenAI models through their existing Amazon Bedrock APIs and controls.
00:46 — Customers will be able to utilize OpenAI's coding agents to scale software development on Bedrock. And with Amazon Bedrock managed agents powered by OpenAI, teams can build and deploy production-ready OpenAI-powered agents on AWS, benefiting from the global infrastructure and security AWS provides.
01:06 — At the heart of this expanded partnership, particularly in terms of messaging from AWS, is the delivery of frontier AI to the infrastructure millions of organizations already trust, and this is one of the cornerstones we're seeing now in the AI Revolution in terms of partnerships.
01:39 — Companies are focusing on their strengths, which is crucial for the parts of the business that customers rely on and that really define them in the eyes of their users. Ultimately, it's the customers who will benefit from these collaborations moving forward.
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Highlights
00:28 — Over the past couple of years, SAP has been the growth leader in applications, growing anywhere from 50% to 250% faster than some of its major competitors.
00:41 — The company has undergone a shift to consumption pricing. This is something that will be phased in over the next couple of years. CEO Christian Klein says it reflects the way that people are using AI and the value they’re getting out of the product.
01:12 — SAP is developing tighter relationships with AI innovators. An interesting one is Palantir, which is now billing itself as an AI infrastructure company, serving as the software foundation enabling AI to do its best work.
02:00 — There are three recent notable acquisitions:
- Reltio for Master Data Management
- Dremio for more SAP and non-SAP data pulled together
- Polar Labs to help SAP move forward with structured data
02:52 — Evidently, SAP is trying to capitalize on what’s happening with the AI revolution and the new capabilities that come with it. I think that Klein’s leadership, focus, and willingness to take ambitious moves with acquisitions and strategic partnerships will be force multipliers in the market.
03:47 — Forward-deployed engineers will be a big part of SAP’s new AI alignment with customers, to help those customers rapidly develop and deploy AI agents and applications.
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In this Cloud Wars conversation, Bob Evans sits down with Workday Co-Founder and CEO Aneel Bhusri for a candid discussion about AI’s disruptive impact on enterprise software, the future of agentic workflows, and why Bhusri returned to the CEO role during one of tech’s most consequential transitions. The conversation explores whether AI will replace software or labor, why systems of record remain strategically vital, and how enterprise leaders should think about governance, security, and business transformation as intelligent agents begin reshaping the operating model of modern organizations.
AI Changes Enterprise Work
The Big Themes:
- AI Replaces Labor, Not Software: One of the most provocative points in the conversation is Bhusri’s assertion that AI is not currently replacing enterprise software, it’s replacing labor. That distinction changes everything. Rather than displacing systems like HR, finance, or ERP, AI is being layered on top of those systems to automate work previously performed by people. Bhusri sees this as both a business opportunity and a societal concern.
- Systems of Record Still Matter: Despite “SaaSpocalypse” chatter, Bhusri argues strongly that systems of record remain deeply entrenched. Customers are not planning to rip out core HR or ERP systems and replace them with loosely connected AI tools. Instead, the competitive battle shifts to what gets built on top of those platforms. That’s a major strategic advantage for incumbents with trusted enterprise infrastructure, data models, and governance frameworks. Bhusri groups Workday alongside SAP, Oracle, and Salesforce as vendors with durable strategic relevance.
- AI’s Social Impact Is the Bigger Story: The most human part of the discussion comes at the end, when Bhusri expresses genuine concern about AI-driven job displacement. Unlike past automation waves focused on repetitive tasks, he worries this generation affects reasoning and knowledge work. Yet he remains optimistic that technology ultimately improves society. Still, he insists enterprise leaders must become part of the solution, not simply profit from disruption.
The Big Quote: “Great tech companies aren’t built on one generation of technology.”
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I unpack why Workday customers are demanding AI agents and agentic capabilities.
Highlights
00:03 — I had a chance to speak with Workday co-founder, then CEO, then chairman, now back as CEO, Aneel Bhusri. And absolutely, Aneel, I would say, is back as CEO. He is unplugged in this conversation and definitely fired up about Workday’s prospects, and the sort of reimagination of the company as an AI-first, AI-powered, agentic powerhouse moving into the future here.
01:27 — He said none of them is talking about vibe coding applications. He said the enterprise apps are here, but he said "it’s our job at Workday to ensure that they are reinvigorated and kept as modern as possible, with as much AI and agentic capability as possible."
02:29 — He also said, “We’ve got to take on a startup culture, startup mentality, a startup mindset that lets us continually experiment, push new things out, and not get stuck in doing things a certain way.”
02:58 — The opportunity now that customers see is for the right sort of agentic AI to come in to enhance what the applications are already doing, to help these companies move faster, get better insights, allow people to be able to move up to higher-value work.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explore how Workday and Achievers are using AI-driven behavioral intelligence to transform employee recognition and workforce engagement.
Highlights
00:03 — Workday has made Workday Recognition provided by Achievers, available to its customers. This offering has been developed alongside Achievers, the world's leading employee recognition and reward software, integrating its features into the Workday experience. The new offering leverages AI to make it easier for HR teams to evaluate performance drivers.
00:29 — The integration enables employees to recognize their peers and redeem rewards directly within Workday, while streamlining these processes for HR within Workday Human Capital Management, or HCM. This integration provides HR teams with insights into in-demand skills and creates a broader picture of performance.
00:55 — Ben Carter, Senior Vice President, Total Rewards at Workday, explained, “Recognition fuels engagement, and engagement drives productivity, making it one of the clearest indicators of a thriving workforce. By bringing Achievers into Workday, we are helping customers amplify those everyday moments of appreciation and turn them into actionable insights..."
01:22 — By embedding Achievers directly into Workday HCM, Workday is showcasing a significant use case for enterprise AI. That's behavioral intelligence. This really, to me, represents a shift away from automation and instead leverages AI's ability to provide insights at a human level.
01:45 — Businesses are pursuing tools that can offer them a competitive advantage, especially in a landscape where many are targeting similar goals and deploying the same strategies and tools to achieve them. I believe tools like this, which focus on behaviors and reward performance as a result, will undoubtedly become powerful assets in the competitive business arsenal.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I look at how Palantir’s soaring growth reflects rising demand for disciplined, outcome-driven AI platforms.Highlights00:03 — For the past several quarters, the fastest-growing company in the Cloud Wars Top 10 has been Palantir. It upheld that mark in Q1, and what I wanted to talk about today was their combination of extraordinary growth and also the rise from Palantir of a couple new terms to describe what's going on in AI right now.00:30 — Palantir believes it's been successful because it is offering real solutions when other tech vendors — many other tech vendors, it says — are offering only incomplete portions of it. Total revenue was up 85% to $1.63 billion. If you take the U.S., which is both commercial and government or defense business, it's up 104% to $1.28 billion.01:31 — Palantir has blown past its guidance in each of the last several quarters. Its big point about AI slop is that customers are wasting time and money with incomplete AI solutions that don't offer enough precision, enough rigor, enough discipline, so that every move that agents are making can be tracked with great specificity about cost, security, and ROI.02:30 — Alexander Karp says there’s a new category here that he thinks is more befitting of what Palantir does: AI infrastructure. These results are remarkable because it shows that what it is that Palantir is putting together, customers are loving. It's passed now 1,000 customers, and its customers are rapidly increasing the spending they’re doing with them.03:24 — Karp says business leaders have to start thinking differently about what they want out of AI and what a high-quality AI vendor is going to deliver for them. Palantir has been around for 23 years, and despite seeming like a startup company, it continues pushing forward on customer expectations and the value it's imparting to customers. Visit Cloud Wars for more.
In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I unpack how flexibility and competition are reshaping the AI ecosystem.
Highlights
00:08 — One of the most important tech partnerships in the past decade has undergone a radical shake-up. I'm talking about Microsoft and OpenAI, the two companies have revealed new terms for their partnership agreement in a joint statement.
00:38 — "Today, we are announcing an amended agreement to simplify our partnership and the way we work together, grounded in flexibility, certainty, and a focus on delivering the benefits of AI broadly. This new agreement frees both companies up to pursue opportunities independently while maintaining a relationship."
00:59 — There is an endpoint for the length of time that Microsoft has rights to OpenAI's model. OpenAI is going to benefit massively from wider partner opportunities, but still, there are additional benefits for Microsoft as well.
01:17 — Microsoft will remain OpenAI's primary cloud partner, with products shipping first on Azure. However, OpenAI can now serve all its products to customers across any cloud provider. Microsoft will continue to have a non-exclusive license to OpenAI IP until 2032.
01:54 — Despite the significant alterations, Microsoft will continue to participate directly in OpenAI's growth as a major shareholder. Microsoft will benefit by not having to allocate so many resources, allowing it to focus on areas that align with its evolving business goals.
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At Google Cloud Next in Las Vegas, Cloud Wars Founder Bob Evans sat down with Managing Director for Internal Innovation, KPMG, Aaron Purcell to discuss how KPMG is accelerating AI transformation with Google Cloud. As both a customer and partner of Google Cloud, KPMG offers a unique “client zero” perspective, using Gemini and Vertex AI internally while helping clients do the same. Purcell explains why Google’s full-stack AI platform stood out, how governance and speed can coexist, and why employee familiarity with consumer AI tools is changing enterprise adoption faster than ever before.
KPMG’s AI Playbook
The Big Themes:
- Why Google Won: KPMG evaluated multiple AI providers, but Google Cloud stood apart because it offered what Aaron Purcell called the “full stack.” Instead of piecing together separate providers for models, infrastructure, and agent development, Google delivered an integrated platform that included model creation, cloud services, infrastructure, and a mature agent-building platform through Vertex AI. That end-to-end capability gave KPMG confidence that execution would be faster and more scalable.
- Consumer AI Accelerates Enterprise Adoption: One of the biggest accelerators for enterprise AI adoption is that employees are already using similar tools at home. Purcell noted that many people already have experience with Google products in their personal lives, making workplace adoption much easier. Tools like NotebookLM and Gemini Enterprise feel intuitive because users recognize the patterns and workflows from consumer applications. Instead of learning entirely new systems, employees translate familiar habits into the workplace. This reduces resistance, shortens training time, and improves confidence.
- Keeping Up With Vertical Innovation: Purcell said the pace of AI innovation is no longer a hockey stick. It feels like a vertical line. New capabilities are arriving so quickly that organizations need systems to keep employees informed without overwhelming them. KPMG uses Gemini Enterprise itself as a communication platform, with announcement sections highlighting new features and important updates. They also run office hours, user sessions, and collaborative education efforts to keep professionals current.
The Big Quote: “We’re providing the general user with the ability to create their own agents for personal productivity.”
More from Google Cloud and KPMG:
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I compare AWS’s impressive quarter with the even faster momentum of its competitors.
Highlights
00:01 — Wanted to talk today a little bit about the Q1 that AWS just had. I think they revealed an awesome acceleration in Q1, but in a competitive sense, it's still falling behind competitors like Google Cloud, Microsoft, and Oracle.
00:36 — After three years, our AI run rate now for AWS is $20 billion, compared to $58 million for cloud in its early years. Jassy emphasized how aggressively AWS is pushing into AI and highlighted four key reasons behind this acceleration.
02:05 — AWS revenue grew 28% to $37.6 billion, its highest growth in 15 years. However, Google Cloud is growing at 63%, Microsoft at 29%, and Oracle at 44%, with all three showing stronger backlog growth.
02:55 — A couple things can be true at the same time. AWS had a strong quarter and happy customers, but on a competitive basis, it ranks last in growth rate, backlog size, and backlog growth among hyperscalers.
03:52 — AWS remains strong in a massive market with many customers, but compared to competitors, it has the smallest and slowest-growing backlog. Those are the facts on the ground today in the cloud market.
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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I break down how hyperscalers reached a staggering $2 trillion backlog and what it means for the future of AI infrastructure.
Highlights
00:03 — The hyperscaler market (the four big companies that are helping to shape the world with the power of AI), their backlog has now hit $2 trillion. So not just their recent revenue, talking about future commitments, contracted business not yet recognized as revenue: $2 trillion. Talk about some responsibility.
01:21 — So you see Microsoft’s backlog almost doubled: $627 billion. Oracle’s up a whopping 325% to $553 billion. We’ve got Google Cloud with a huge jump, 93%, $462 billion, and AWS, very nice number, but relative to the others it is not quite up to snuff at 49%, $364 billion.
02:25 — So I think AWS is doing a good job; it’s just its competitors are doing a better job — higher growth. All in all, this rolls up to more proof: this is the cloud AI market, the greatest growth market the world has ever known.
02:52 — Google Cloud, on its revenue side, 63% growth, and then by far its fastest growth backlog number here, 93%. This is a red-hot company, not just for the last few months — this backlog shows a huge number coming forward.
03:39 — This is a fantastic time to be a customer in this business because you’ve got unbelievable demand. The competition from these companies is showing they’ve got to continue to innovate as rapidly as possible and give their customers more choice.
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In this episode of the AI Agent & Copilot Podcast, Cloud Wars Founder Bob Evans, is joined by James Lennox, Director of Product, Microsoft, who shares his perspective on AI transformation, enterprise adoption, and the evolving human-AI relationship. Recorded live at the 2026 AI Agent & Copilot Summit NA, Lennox explores how tools like Copilot and Work IQ are reshaping productivity, governance, and innovation across industries.
Key Takeaways Delegation is the New Productivity Model: Lennox underscores a fundamental shift: “I can delegate those long-running tasks to AI.” This evolution allows humans to move away from repetitive execution and focus on strategic, creative, and decision-driven work. With platforms like Work IQ acting as the “brain behind Copilot,” organizations gain end-to-end visibility into business processes. This changes not just efficiency, but the very nature of work — humans become orchestrators rather than operators, dramatically increasing output and impact across roles. * Governance is the Gateway to Scale: One of the biggest blockers to AI adoption isn’t capability, it’s control. Lennox notes organizations ask: “How do I have the governance and oversight to roll this out at scale?” Tools like Microsoft Agent 365 aim to solve this with “full observability, full control, full security.” Without trust frameworks, AI remains experimental. With them, it becomes operational. This highlights that enterprise AI success depends as much on infrastructure and policy as it does on innovation. * AI is Universally Applicable Across Industries*: Lennox observed leaders from diverse sectors, manufacturing, healthcare, and food services, all exploring AI adoption. “There is so much broad applicability…to real business process automation.” This reinforces that AI is not industry-specific but function-specific. Whether it’s document processing or supply chain optimization, AI can integrate into virtually any workflow, making it a universal transformation layer rather than a niche tool.
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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I analyze the shifting balance of power between Google Cloud and AWS.
Highlights
00:03 — Last week, we had three of the four hyperscalers report their Q1 numbers. It’s been fascinating to look at those. While everybody did very, very well, Google Cloud just had an utterly exceptional, spectacular Q1, and I think the evidence of what we see in these comparative numbers shows why Google Cloud has risen to number one.
00:51 — If we compare side by side, Google Cloud and AWS in Q1 on the growth rate, their revenue, their backlog growth, and the backlog numbers — the growth: 63% to 28%. Now we will certainly hear from a lot of the AWS fanboys that that’s just because there’s a discrepancy in size. That’s true, but it does not cover this discrepancy in growth rate.
01:35 — For Google Cloud, the backlog grew 93% to $462 billion. For AWS, the backlog grew 49% to $364 billion. Really impressive numbers here from AWS, but they play in a market with some other pretty good companies as well. Google Cloud shows 93% backlog growth versus 49%, and $100 billion bigger in backlog total versus AWS.
02:31 — AWS in Q1 had 85% more revenue than Google Cloud. Then how do you explain this backlog discrepancy? It shows that going forward, which is what the backlog shows us, future trends of business, Google Cloud is winning much more business in the future. Google Cloud is winning more new business, and that’s where the game is being played.
03:25 — So clearly, the whole AI boom had a huge impact on these numbers. We saw Microsoft, just to toss this in, Microsoft's growth rate was 29% in Q1, its fiscal Q3, and its RPO, which is its version of backlog, was up, it said, 99% to$ 627 billion. Oracle, its RPO was up 325% to over $550 billion. So, it's just an incredible market here right now.
04:05 — For a long time, AWS has conditioned the market to say AWS is the king of the cloud and it will be forever. That’s just not true anymore. Google Cloud, through innovation and jumping into the AI game early and aggressively, is booming right now, and its core cloud business is doing very well.
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At Google Cloud Next in Las Vegas, Bob Evans sat down with Karen Dahut, CEO of Google Public Sector, to discuss how AI, security, and open cloud strategies are reshaping government services. Dahut shared how Google Public Sector was built on the belief that government agencies deserve the same advanced commercial technologies as private enterprises, and why that decision is now proving critical in the era of agentic AI.
AI Reinvents Government
The Big Themes:
- Commercial Cloud for Government: Karen Dahut explained that when Thomas Kurian became CEO of Google Cloud in 2019, he challenged the outdated assumption that public sector organizations should receive different or lesser technology than private enterprises. Instead of building a separate, restricted GovCloud environment, Google chose to accredit its full commercial cloud for government use. This gave agencies access to the same scalability, resiliency, and innovation cycles as Fortune 100 companies. That decision is especially important now because AI workloads demand enormous scale.
- Leadership Makes AI Real: Technology alone does not create transformation — leadership does. Dahut highlighted examples from the FDA, Department of Transportation, and the City of Los Angeles, where visionary leaders are actively driving AI adoption rather than waiting for change to happen. These executives are not simply buying software; they are rethinking how agencies operate, from transportation systems to drug discovery to citizen services. Dahut stressed that real AI success requires courage, education, and enablement alongside strong technology.
- Open Cloud Is Responsible Government: Dahut strongly argued that openness is not optional in public sector technology, it is the only responsible approach. Governments operate with decades of legacy systems, massive backlogs of information, and multimodal data spread across many environments. Forcing all of that data into one cloud platform would be expensive, slow, and ultimately harmful. Google’s approach is to leave the data where it already exists and analyze it there, avoiding costly ingress and egress fees and preventing vendor lock-in.
The Big Quote: “AI and agentic AI is truly going to be one of those technologies that we look back on 10, 15 years from now and say that was truly the most transformational piece of technology since the transistor.”
More from Karen Dahut and Google Cloud:
Connect with Karen on LinkedIn or learn more about Google Cloud Public Sector.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explore how Oracle is redefining enterprise software with AI agentic applications.
Highlights
00:03 — One of the biggest stories of the year, maybe the next few years, is going to be the rise of generative AI, the animating force behind business innovation and unlocking new ways for businesses to work, to run, to see the future, to adapt, and to give people higher-value opportunities as well.
00:29 — Oracle, I think, has been the most articulate and the most active in framing out how agents and applications are going to work together in the future. There has been this false choice brought up that it would be apps or agents, but that is not where things are headed.
01:09 — What we're seeing now is not going to be apps and agents. Oracle is fusing them together, calling them AI agentic applications. Steve Miranda explained in a longer conversation I had with him how these applications are different, what the business benefits are for customers, and how this new AI agentic revolution is changing enterprise software.
02:34 — Oracle is saying these AI agentic applications will trigger a shift of applications being systems of record to systems of actual outcomes. The agents are going to pursue not just task by task, but business outcomes, business goals, and business objectives.
03:51 — Companies that move quickly will be able to reposition their people to do higher-value work instead of drudge work. The risks of waiting are growing scarier as the pace of innovation increases, and leaders need to aggressively and confidently take on these new technologies.
- Check out my longer conversation with Steve Miranda here.
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In this special episode of Cloud Wars Live, Bob Evans sits down with Steve Miranda, Executive Vice President of Applications Development at Oracle, from Oracle Park in San Francisco to discuss one of the biggest shifts happening in enterprise technology: agentic AI applications. Miranda explains how Oracle is moving beyond embedded AI and AI agents to fully agentic applications that can act on business objectives rather than just automate transactions. From finance and supply chain to HR and customer service, he shares how this transformation is changing operations, competitiveness, employee roles, and the very mindset organizations need to succeed in the AI Era.
Rise of Agentic Apps
The Big Themes:
- From AI Features to Agentic Applications: Steve Miranda explains that Oracle’s AI journey has evolved in three major stages. First, Oracle embedded AI directly into applications to help generate and enhance content, improving the traditional user experience. Next came AI agents — workflow-driven systems capable of handling transaction sequences across ERP, HCM, supply chain, and CX. Now Oracle is introducing agentic applications, which represent a full redesign of enterprise software. These systems allow users to set business objectives rather than manually manage transactions. Instead of handling purchase orders, invoices, or approvals individually, users provide strategic guidance while AI agents execute, monitor, and optimize outcomes.
- Competitive Advantage Comes from Speed: Miranda stresses that agentic AI is not only about reducing costs through automation — it is about increasing business speed and adaptability. In competitive markets, companies need to react instantly to supply chain disruptions, shifting cash positions, pricing opportunities, and customer demands. Human-driven workflows create delays, while agentic applications can monitor both internal operations and external market conditions in real time. AI can identify early payment discounts, detect supply chain disruptions, or recommend immediate operational adjustments faster than traditional teams. This responsiveness creates a major competitive edge. Companies that adopt agentic applications can operate faster and more efficiently, while those that delay risk falling behind competitors who are able to move at machine speed
- Oracle’s Pricing Philosophy Supports Adoption: Miranda explains that Oracle’s pricing philosophy for AI remains intentionally customer-friendly. Core AI improvements — including embedded AI and standard agentic capabilities — are included within existing application subscriptions. Customers subscribing to financials, HCM, supply chain, or other Fusion applications receive these enhancements as part of the normal service evolution, much like database upgrades. Additional charges apply only when customers extend applications further, such as building custom agents or adding specialized workflows through Agent Studio. Those extensions use token-based pricing, which reflects current industry standards for AI usage. This model gives customers both innovation and flexibility: they benefit from improved core functionality without surprise costs, while paying incrementally only when they choose to expand AI into additional areas of the business.
The Big Quote: “We’re essentially rebuilding our applications from the ground up to make them agentic.”
More from Steve Miranda and Oracle:
Connect with Steve on LinkedIn or learn more about Oracle AI Agent for Fusion Applications.
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In this episode of the AI Agent & Copilot Podcast, Cloud Wars Founder Bob Evans is joined by Dona Sarkar, Chief Troublemaker of AI Adoption at Microsoft, who shares her perspective on how leaders should approach AI adoption, why fear around AI replacing jobs is misplaced, and how executives can create a culture of experimentation. Speaking from the 2026 AI Agent & Copilot Summit NA in San Diego, Sarkar explains why organizations need AI-first thinking, stronger leadership involvement, and a focus on solving impossible problems rather than simply improving existing workflows.
Key Takeaways
- AI Won’t Replace You — But Someone Using AI Might: Sarkar strongly pushes back against the fear-driven narrative around AI replacing workers. She explains that change does not happen overnight and that professionals should focus on becoming AI power users instead of waiting for disruption to happen to them. As she puts it, “We will be relevant, irrelevant. Who’s they? Exactly. You can be they.” She encourages workers to learn AI within their own discipline (legal, finance, sales, or operations) and become the person who understands how to train, guide, and supervise it. The future belongs to those who learn to “harness its power.”
- AI Should Solve Impossible Problems, Not Just Existing Ones: Rather than using AI only to optimize familiar work, Sarkar believes organizations should target the problems they have never been able to solve. She says, “Let’s go solve the problems we’ve never been able to solve because we just don’t have the human capital.” This shift moves AI from being a cost-cutting exercise to a growth engine. Leaders should use AI to uncover opportunities, identify market gaps, and rethink what their companies are capable of delivering in the future.
- Focus on Team Productivity, Not Personal Productivity: Sarkar argues that many companies are stuck in outdated AI use cases like meeting summaries and individual task optimization. She believes the real opportunity lies in workflow transformation across teams. “You have to get outside the personal productivity experiments.” By identifying full workflows — like sales enablement or content operations — and improving them with AI agents, companies reduce fear and unlock capacity for new work. AI should create room for innovation and experimentation, not simply make individuals feel more replaceable.
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In this episode of the AI Agent & Copilot Podcast, host Giuseppe Ianni speaks with Parmesh Rajan, VP of Technology for HSO US, live from the AI Agent & Copilot Summit NA in San Diego, California.Rajan explains how organizations are moving beyond experimentation and embedding AI directly into business processes, implementation delivery, and workforce productivity. The discussion highlights a shift from standalone copilots toward operational, production-grade AI agents that deliver measurable outcomes.
Key Takeaways AI Embedded in Core Operations, Not Add-On Tools: Organizations are moving from experimenting with AI to embedding it directly into enterprise systems and workflows. As Parmesh Rajan explains, the goal is to shorten complex ERP implementations and integrate AI into core business processes like finance, operations, and customer engagement rather than treating it as a standalone capability. * Automation Across the Entire Implementation Lifecycle: HSO is applying AI across the full delivery stack—from gap-fit analysis and solution design to coding assistance and data transformation. This is helping reduce manual effort in traditionally lengthy 12–18 month implementations while improving accuracy and accelerating time to value for customers. * Adoption Depends on Workflow Fit, Not Agent Quantity:* Industry-specific AI agents are critical for real-world adoption because they align with how users actually work. Examples like automated timesheets and AI-driven expense processing show that success comes from embedding agents into daily workflows, with effectiveness ultimately measured by usage rather than the number of agents deployed.
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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I explore how Stellantis and Microsoft are launching one of the most ambitious enterprise AI collaborations yet, spanning engineering, cybersecurity, and large-scale operational transformation.
Highlights
00:09 — Stellantis, the automaker responsible for well-known brands such as Dodge, Jeep, Peugeot, and Ram Trucks, has partnered with Microsoft in a five-year strategic collaboration.
00:19 — The goal of the partnership is to accelerate the company’s digital transformation through advanced AI systems, enhanced cybersecurity measures, and next-generation engineering capabilities. Stellantis has already been an early adopter of AI, embedding the technology directly into its vehicles.
00:38 — Now, by collaborating with Microsoft, the company plans to accelerate this AI momentum across the enterprise. Judson Althoff, EVP and Chief Commercial Officer at Microsoft, explained that combining Stellantis’ global scale and engineering expertise with Microsoft’s trusted cloud, AI, and security platforms will deliver real value for millions of drivers worldwide.
01:03 — In total, the partnership will lead to more than 100 AI initiatives designed to enhance customer care, product development, and operations. This includes AI-powered product development and validation, predictive maintenance and testing, and faster deployment of new digital features and services.
01:48 — This is an incredibly ambitious project — one of the most significant I’ve seen not only in the automotive sector but across AI transformation initiatives overall. I’ll continue following developments closely and sharing updates.
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In this episode of Cloud Wars Live, Bob Evans sits down with Tirthankar Lahiri, Senior Vice President for Mission-Critical Data and AI Engines. Lahiri explains how agentic AI is transforming enterprise applications from simple question-answer systems into action-driven platforms that can reason, remember, and securely execute tasks. He details Oracle’s strategy around unified agent memory, private agent factories, deep data security, and open development standards, all designed to help customers build scalable, secure, and flexible AI systems without added cost.
AI Built Securely
The Big Themes:
- Agentic AI Becomes Action-Oriented: Tirthankar Lahiri explains that agentic AI represents the next major step beyond generative AI. While generative AI focused largely on answering questions and producing content, agentic AI is designed to take action. It allows businesses to build systems that can reason, decide, and execute tasks autonomously. Oracle sees this as the future of application development, where AI becomes embedded into workflows rather than functioning as a standalone tool.
- Oracle Builds AI Directly Into the Database: Rather than forcing customers to move data across multiple isolated systems, Oracle’s approach is to bring AI directly to the data. Lahiri argues that data is the “ground truth” and moving it creates technical debt, silos, inefficiency, and security vulnerabilities. Oracle’s converged database architecture supports multiple data types, including relational, graph, spatial, and vector, inside one unified environment. This eliminates the need for separate repositories and allows AI agents to access all relevant context without fragmentation.
- Deep Data Security Protects Against AI Risks: Lahiri strongly emphasizes that traditional application-layer security is no longer enough in the age of AI. Since AI can generate SQL and potentially bypass interface restrictions through prompt injection, businesses must secure data directly at the source. Oracle calls this “deep data security.” He uses the analogy of protecting valuables in a safe bolted to the floor rather than simply locking the front gate. Even if someone gets inside the house, the valuables remain protected. Similarly, Oracle enforces security policies at the database level, ensuring agents can only access data users are authorized to see.
The Big Quote: "You need to secure data. Need to lock your valuables into the safe deep inside the house."
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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I break down Google Cloud’s $750M partner ecosystem investment and its aggressive push to lead the agentic AI transformation race against Microsoft, AWS, and Oracle.
Highlights
00:03 — Last week in Las Vegas, we saw Google Cloud roll out an incredibly broad, deep set of agentic AI technologies and solutions. They’re making a massive push on this. Google Cloud is the number one player in the Cloud Wars Top 10, and they’re looking to really take the big lead in agentic AI transformations for their customers.
00:24 — Now, in parallel with that, we also saw Google Cloud — in addition to all what they’re doing on the tech track — on the go-to-market side. They have put together what they’re calling a $750 million fund for their ecosystem and partners to help them drive AI transformations for customers, right — to help them get better training, to be more technically proficient, to help deploy engineers, and more.
00:53 — So I’m wondering now, in light of this, both the tech splash that Google Cloud made at Next but also now with this push for their partner ecosystem, will Microsoft and AWS match this massive, I would say unprecedented, investment in the ecosystem?
02:26 — You’ve got, not so long ago, I think you could look at what we called broadly the hyperscalers, and it was a little bit hard to differentiate, right? They were just sort of known as this one blob. I think the companies Microsoft, AWS, and Oracle are differentiating themselves now to a vast degree.
02:47 — I think what Google Cloud is trying to do here is say, “Hey, we’re going to do all the stuff we did for you before, but we are going to focus more intensely than any company on Earth on the agentic AI revolution, to provide not just the technology, but the skills that you need from the partner ecosystem."
03:37 — And then it's putting the money behind this to ensure that those partners have the capabilities to do it — and to do it very quickly — because this is a race to see who is going to get that first-mover status. So far, I believe Google Cloud is in that for agentic AI transformations for customers across the globe and across industries.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I break down how SAP is outperforming Oracle, Salesforce, Workday, and Microsoft in the applications race.
Highlights
00:03 — We saw some first-quarter numbers from SAP late last week, and I think it's fascinating to see how, in the light of these very, very strong numbers from SAP, we still seem to hear about this idea that these doomsayers are saying that AI is going to destroy the enterprise apps business. That's certainly not happening.
00:33 — The three big numbers here: cloud revenue up 27%, almost $7 billion. Within that, its Cloud ERP Suite was up 30% to $6.1 billion, and looking out at contracted business not yet recognized as revenue, it calls it current cloud backlog, up 25% to well over $25 billion.
00:57 — That's pretty healthy-looking business for one that is, you know, doomed to the apocalypse and Armageddon any day now, according to some of these wizards of smart who believe that AI is going to come in and just decimate the enterprise apps business.
01:52 — The only thing I can think of that gives them this idea that the whole industry is heading for Armageddon here, they must believe that companies like SAP are unprepared for or unable to participate in the AI revolution, but that notion ignores where the data really is.
02:28 — Agentic AI is the future. Agents need data to run, and who has more and better business data than SAP? So this just confounds me.
02:43 — We continue to see SAP outperform Oracle's applications business, Workday, Salesforce, and also the apps business part of Microsoft Dynamics 365. I think this is a very strong quarter by SAP, and the future here is very bright.
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ogle Cloud Next, Cloud Wars CEO and Founder Bob Evans sits down with Karthik Narain, Chief Product and Business Officer, Google Cloud, to discuss how AI is fundamentally changing enterprise expectations. Narain explains why customers no longer judge technology providers by licenses sold or cloud consumption, but by measurable business outcomes. From forward-deployed engineers to agentic workflows and the evolving role of product design, he outlines how Google Cloud is rethinking engagement, product development, and enterprise transformation in what he calls the third major wave of technology innovation.
AI Demands Outcomes
The Big Themes:
- Outcomes Replace Consumption Metrics: Narain explains that enterprises are no longer measuring technology providers by how many licenses they sell or how much cloud consumption occurs. Instead, success is now judged by outcomes delivered. Customers expect providers like Google Cloud to share equal responsibility for business results, not just provide tools and leave execution to the customer. This represents a major shift from prior eras where businesses viewed themselves as the sole owners of converting technology into value. AI’s speed and sophistication have raised expectations dramatically.
- The Third Technology Wave: Narain frames today’s AI era as the third major wave of enterprise technology over the past 60 years. The first wave from mainframes through ERP, focused on codifying business processes into repeatable systems. The second wave centered on delivery model innovation, moving software into SaaS and cloud environments. The third wave is fundamentally different because the technology itself learns and evolves. Rather than giving software fixed instructions, enterprises must feed it data, context, and reasoning. This changes how software is designed and deployed.
- Every Feature Must Become a Skill: Products must now be designed for both humans and AI agents. Narain explains that every feature inside enterprise software needs to be exposed as a “skill” that agents can activate directly. This means software can no longer assume a human user is the only operator. Agents must be able to trigger workflows, execute tasks, and coordinate processes independently. This changes how products are structured from the ground up.
The Big Quote: “The application’s user interface is no longer clicks and drop-downs. It is going to be prompts and agentic workflows."
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In this Cloud Wars conversation, Bob Evans sits down with Shub Bhowmick, CEO and Founder of Tredence, alongside Yasmeen Ahmad from Google Cloud to explore how enterprises are moving from AI applications to AI agents. Their discussion focuses on what it takes to turn intelligence into action — covering data foundations, semantic layers, agentic architectures, and the operational shifts required for businesses to scale AI successfully.
Turning AI Into Action
The Big Themes:
- AI Agents Redefine Applications: Traditional AI apps assist by querying data, generating recommendations, and supporting limited workflows. AI agents, however, represent a much deeper operational shift. As Ahmad explains, agents are multi-step reasoning engines that can access multiple systems, coordinate actions, and execute entire business processes autonomously. Instead of simply helping humans decide, they can perform work across ERP systems, supply chains, and customer interactions. This changes the role of the database itself — from a storage and query engine into a reasoning engine with vector search, graph RAG, and semantic understanding. Examples like Home Depot and Danfoss show how this creates massive efficiency gains
- Why Questions Require Agentic Intelligence: Shub Bhowmick draws a critical distinction between “what” questions and “why” questions. A conversational BI system can answer what happened — such as how much sales dropped — but a “why” question demands deeper reasoning. Why did sales decline? Was it pricing pressure, competitor behavior, inventory constraints, or macroeconomic events? These problems require hypothesis-driven exploration. Tredence addresses this through business semantic layers, knowledge graphs, and hypothesis banks that support open-ended reasoning.
- Closed Systems Create Long-Term Risk: Bhowmick warns against enterprises rushing toward closed, inflexible platforms simply because they promise faster short-term value. While packaged solutions may accelerate deployment, they often restrict ownership, adaptability, and future innovation. In contrast, open architectures built with hyperscalers like Google Cloud allow customers to own the IP, customize solutions, and evolve as the market changes.
The Big Quote: “Gone are the days when these migrations used to take 12 to 18 months. Nowadays, you have to complete these migrations in less than three to four months.”
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In this special episode of Cloud Wars Live from Google Cloud Next, Bob Evans speaks with Andi Gutmans about Google Cloud’s newly announced Agentic Data Cloud and what it means for enterprise customers entering the AI-driven future. Gutmans explains how businesses must rethink data platforms for an era where autonomous agents, not just people, need instant access to trusted enterprise knowledge.
The New Data Foundation
The Big Themes:
- The Agentic Data Cloud Is a Reinvention: Google Cloud is not simply rebranding its existing Data Cloud, it is fundamentally redesigning it for the agentic AI era. Gutmans explains that data must evolve from being a passive repository into active business knowledge that agents can reason over. He describes this as moving from a “system of intelligence” to a “system of action.” The newly announced Agentic Data Cloud includes innovations across databases, analytics, storage, and governance so agents can securely access and act on enterprise information.
- Culture Matters More Than Technology: According to Gutmans, the organizations moving fastest are the ones embracing cultural transformation, not just deploying models on top of old systems. Companies succeeding in the agentic era are rethinking how their data platforms work and how employees engage with AI. Instead of treating agents as copilots, they view every employee as an orchestrator of agents. That mindset shift drives faster ROI because it creates readiness for change and willingness to innovate.
- Google’s Vertical Stack Is a Major Advantage: Gutmans says that Google Cloud is uniquely positioned because it owns the entire stack: AI infrastructure, models, and the data platform itself. This allows what he calls “closed-loop innovation” between models and data systems, where improvements in one directly enhance the other. He says many people underestimate how important that relationship is because model reasoning must evolve alongside the platform serving enterprise data. Products like BigQuery, Spanner, and Gemini benefit from Google’s decades of operating at massive scale, including multiple billion-user businesses.
The Big Quote: "We're moving from this reactive, agentic experience to agents truly being autonomous, being able to drive outcomes for the business, and that's also now steering how we're thinking about the data cloud."
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In this episode of the AI Agent & Copilot Podcast, Giuseppe Ianni sits down with Ryan Grant, Chief Strategy and Revenue Officer at sa.global, who shares insights on how organizations are approaching AI adoption, where they’re struggling to get started, and how industry-specific agentic solutions can drive efficiency and revenue protection. Their discussion, recorded live at the 2026 AI Agent & Copilot Summit NA, spotlights the urgency, complexity, and opportunity surrounding AI transformation.
Key Takeaways Starting Is the Biggest Challenge: Many organizations are not lacking interest, but direction. Grant says that customers are struggling to prioritize use cases across departments. The range of entry points (from finance to customer experience) creates confusion. The key is narrowing focus and identifying high-impact starting points. Without clarity, companies risk paralysis or misaligned investments. * Industry-Specific AI Is the Real Differentiator: Grant discusses the importance of tailoring AI solutions: “what we're really trying to do… is figure out how to help those industries optimize.” Generic AI tools fall short without context. By focusing on sectors like construction, engineering, and legal, sa.global builds agents that understand workflows, billing models, and operational nuances. * AI Must Understand Your Business to Work: One of the most powerful insights: “you can go plug an agent in, but if it doesn't know your business… it's never going to work.”* AI is not plug-and-play. Like a new employee, it needs training, context, and alignment with company processes. Organizations must integrate AI into their workflows thoughtfully, ensuring it reflects how they operate. This alignment is the difference between failed pilots and transformative success.
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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I look at why Google Cloud’s new Gemini Enterprise could reshape enterprise AI and force competitors to raise their game.
Highlights
00:44 — I think we’re going to see Google Cloud leapfrog the competition with Gemini Enterprise. I believe it’s absolutely a breakthrough product — enormously impressive. I’ll have a longer, detailed article later today on cloudwars.com where I go into more depth, but let me offer a few thoughts here.
01:06 — First of all, it’s going to force all the AI and cloud players to step up to a different level. For roughly the past three and a half years — since the launch of ChatGPT 3.5, when the AI Revolution kicked off — the tech industry has released an incredible array of dazzling, powerful, highly capable, and truly breathtaking technologies. At the same time, most of those technologies have required customers to assemble everything themselves.
01:37 — Gemini Enterprise, in its new format, pulls together everything Google Cloud offers — very open, easy-to-work-with technologies from other companies, plus access to all the data customers have. That’s where I think it will really help customers who have been spending far too much on integration costs trying to rationalize their AI investments.
02:08 — Second, it connects systems of record. Google particularly called out data from applications like Workday, Salesforce, platforms such as Palantir, and ServiceNow — making it easy for customers to pull data from all those places. Industry-specific and domain-specific agents are also central to what Google Cloud is building into this new Gemini Enterprise version.
03:05 —Third, security. Google Cloud is introducing everything from an agentic security operations center to autonomous security agents that continuously look for threats, report back, and take action. This isn’t passive security — hoping nothing happens — but an active stance: getting ahead of threats.
03:56 — Finally, the powerful partner ecosystem. This has always been a major part of Google Cloud’s strategy. Thomas Kurian has made partnerships a centerpiece — not just Google Cloud technologies, but the force-multiplying effect of partners playing a huge role in what customers can now achieve with the new and improved Gemini Enterprise.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explain why Oracle’s AWS partnership signals a new era of cloud interoperability.
Highlight
00:03 — Recently, my colleague Bob Evans reported on a new initiative from AWS called Interconnect multicloud aimed at enhancing the company's multi-cloud offerings. Now, Oracle has announced that it will leverage AWS Interconnect multicloud to expand its multi-cloud networking capabilities.
00:31 — Oracle is enabling high-performance connectivity between Oracle Cloud Infrastructure and AWS by connecting Oracle Interconnect with AWS Interconnect multicloud. Now, as a result, Oracle customers will gain, and I quote, access to "a fast, private, managed connection to run applications and move data seamlessly between OCI and AWS."
01:00 — This new connectivity will support both full and split-stack multi-cloud deployments, empowering customers to confidently leverage the benefits of both cloud providers without the management complexity that previously posed major challenges.
01:14 — Nathan Thomas, Senior Vice President, Product Management at Oracle Cloud Infrastructure, said the following: "Oracle continues to advance multi-cloud connectivity as part of its commitment to help customers unlock flexibility, agility, and performance across clouds."
01:40 — Once again, we see Oracle at the forefront of multi-cloud connectivity, quickly integrating with a competitor's product to ensure that its customers are always in a position to realize their business ambitions, most notably in the AI space, without the issues of dispersed systems, data silos, and latency.
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In this episode of the AI Agent & Copilot Podcast, Giuseppe Ianni is joined by Tad Remington, Chief Commercial Officer at Solver, who discusses how AI is transforming financial planning and analysis through intelligent agents.
Key Takeaways
- The Rise of AI in FP&A: Remington emphasizes that AI is no longer experimental in finance, it’s operational. Organizations are increasingly relying on AI agents embedded in FP&A tools to enhance analysis and planning. As he notes, “they really like the analysis capabilities that we have built in,” highlighting strong adoption of AI-driven insights across finance teams.
- Trusted Data Is the Foundation: A major differentiator for Solver is its reliance on curated, governed data. Remington explains that AI outputs are only as good as the inputs: “it works off of the reports that they’ve developed….” This ensures accuracy, security, and trust in AI-generated insights.
- Autonomous Finance Is Coming Fast: One of the most forward-looking insights is the move toward autonomous agents. Remington shares, “we want to get to… the autonomous agent kind of era,” where financial processes run independently and take action without prompts, signaling a major shift in how finance teams operate.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I preview Google Cloud Next and share three bold predictions around AI security, sovereignty, and Gemini Enterprise.
Highlights
00:03 — We’ve got Google Cloud Next coming up this week in Las Vegas. The world’s number one cloud and AI provider is going to, no doubt, roll out a lot of interesting technologies, partnerships, go-to-market plans, and new ways for customers to thrive in the AI Economy.
00:31 — First, I think big launches around AI security. This has been a differentiator for Google Cloud in the whole run of the hyperscaler competition, and it's distinguished itself with Mandiant and threat intelligence capabilities. And it recently closed the acquisition of Wiz. So it's got some very good foundations there to build upon in AI security and sovereignty.
01:23 — Similarly, AI sovereignty is huge now, and it's only going to get bigger here in the AI Era, as data becomes more vital, privacy becomes more vital, security becomes more vital, and a lot of nations and regions are going to become even more specific in trying to say here's what's possible with the movement of not only data, but applications, where things have to be based.
02:08 — Too many technology vendors and customers were falling into a trap of thinking there’s a false choice, you can either be fully compliant or grow aggressively. Google Cloud says that’s a false choice and customers can do both.
03:43 — My prediction for the third big area is Gemini Enterprise, a breakthrough product with strong customer adoption, enabling companies to build agents and integrate AI into workflows at scale.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explore the growing divide between cloud innovators and followers in the AI Era.
Highlights
00:03 — Now we see here in April of 2026 a distinction between leaders and followers in the cloud and AI markets. And this came through quite distinctly here. AWS has just launched what it calls its multi-cloud interconnect service, and it's going to be good for some customers.
00:51 — In spite of the fact that AWS cloud revenue is much, much larger than Oracle, size matters, but it is not the only differentiator. Their service is going to start with Google Cloud, and AWS is going to add both Microsoft and Oracle later this year to allow secure data exchange across these clouds.
01:42 — Oracle followed that up with what I call the Microsoft miracle, where it set up these multi-cloud partnerships with its three primary rivals — first Microsoft, then Google Cloud, then AWS — allowing customers to buy and deploy the Oracle database through those other clouds.
02:22 — As far as who is setting the agenda and driving innovation, it's very much more Oracle and Google Cloud, and AWS now is proven a follower. I can't even call them a fast follower, because it's been about three years since they followed up on this.
03:10 — In the midst of the AI revolution and the beginning of the global AI economy, it's much more important to find tech partners who help you create the future, not just improve the past, and that's why innovation that drives rapid business outcomes matters most.
03:56 — So with businesses now being in a situation where they don't have lots and lots of time to tinker and experiment and wait to see what the competitors do, they've got to move very quickly. That's why with the Cloud Wars Top 10, I've put such an emphasis on innovation that drives rapid business outcomes.
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00:09 — Microsoft has introduced new capabilities to Copilot Studio to enhance automated operations by combining AI agents and workflows. Currently, Copilot Studio users can choose between agents and workflows to create automations.
00:27 — While agents are inherently flexible when it comes to business use cases, Microsoft has recognized that, as they state, pure agent autonomy doesn't always hold up to production requirements. On the other hand, workflows, which are more rigid and rule-based, can be inflexible and may have limitations in their capabilities.
00:58 — The first pattern involves workflows calling agents to make judgment calls on structured automations. To support this, Microsoft is introducing agent nodes. This allows users to call an existing agent from a workflow, send a message to the agent, retrieve the agent's response, and use it in subsequent workflow steps if necessary.
01:31 — Now, the second pattern that Microsoft has identified is using workflows as tools. In this scenario, when an agent is working through a complex task, instead of trying to learn how to handle it independently, it can call an existing workflow to execute the subprocess and then continue its reasoning based on the results.
02:29 — Microsoft states that these two approaches combine agents and workflows to provide users with the flexibility to build automations that better address real-world needs—and that's the key here: real-world applications.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explain why success in the AI Economy demands bold, uncompromising leadership from CEOs — and why many aren’t ready.
Highlights
00:03 — It’s been fascinating to see that recently, AI transformation has begun to hit hard at the CEO rank. Up until now, as we’ve all seen, there have been hundreds of thousands of job losses that have taken place in lower-level or mid-level jobs. And I think now we’re starting to see that the new victims of AI are going to be CEOs.
00:25 — And I think we can put those into three categories: those who are unable to see what’s happening and deal with it, those who are unwilling to acknowledge the reality of what’s changing, and then there’s those who are unseeing. They choose not to see what’s going around them, or they’re not willing to recognize just how serious it is.
01:15 — But I think what we’re really starting to see now, and I’ll offer some tangible examples here, is this is going to come down to be a real issue for CEOs, because companies that want to succeed in the AI Economy will not be able to do so unless they’ve got full, unbridled, uncompromising leadership and support for the business transformations being wrapped around AI.
02:30 — By every measure, Doug McMillon, the CEO of Walmart, has been a terrific CEO. But late last year, when he announced that he was going to step down as CEO, he said, “I just don’t think I’m the right person for this job. We’ve started a lot of AI changes and transformations. I’m not sure I’m the right person to finish those. We need somebody who’s faster.”
03:20 — Now, another group here is the kind I’m calling the unwilling, and they are the ones that are big on, “Well, let’s have a committee. Let’s form a SWAT team. We’ll see what the threats are to our company. We’ll see what we need to do, and we’ll give them six months or nine months or a year, and they’ll report.” And by then, their company is sort of over the cliff and is not going to be able to make it.
04:08 — Marc Benioff, the CEO of Salesforce, said AI has become a convenient scapegoat for everything. He said there are a lot of CEOs right now who are just saying whatever happens, good, bad, indifferent, it’s all due to AI. “We had to make a lot of layoffs — that’s because of AI. We had to stop doing this — we had to stop doing that — well, it’s all because of AI.” He said that’s a cop-out.
04:55 — So for business leaders, you can smell this in your company. You can feel it. Are we a company that is bullish and going after this thing with AI, or are we going to be one of these people who are unwilling, unseeing, and just not ready to jump in? There are brutal times coming for companies that are not willing to get into this. It starts with the CEO.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explore how governance gaps are slowing AI agent adoption in enterprises.
Highlights
00:05 —The role of AI agents in enterprise has advanced enormously in recent months, evolving from passive Q&A bots to systems that can take real actions in production environments. This is things like managing finances or accessing confidential patient data for healthcare organizations.
00:23 — However, a major hurdle often remains, and that's compliance. In many cases, audit and risk teams are reluctant to endorse these new capabilities because it's difficult to prove what an agent has done, which policies were in effect, and whether those policies were actually enforced.
00:45 — Panoptic Systems is a Mississippi-based firm developing runtime governance infrastructure for AI agents. Now, the team there recognized early on that as businesses deploy agents capable of taking these significant actions within production environments, a crucial missing layer of the technology stack was deterministic infrastructure-level governance that provided audit-grade evidence.
01:36 — Panopticore offers four possible outcomes for agent actions: allow, warn, block, or require human approval. Every decision is recorded in a cryptographically signed audit trail that can be verified offline by any internal auditor or third party.
02:28 — Panopticore delivers the controls and evidence that compliance teams, auditors, and often insurers need before agents can move from pilot to production. In simple terms, this technology is unblocking agents that are stuck in limbo.
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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I analyze Q4 performance to reveal who’s truly leading in cloud growth right now.
Highlights
00:03 — We're just a couple weeks away from getting Q1 results of the hyperscalers and some other companies in the Cloud Wars Top 10, I wanted to take a look at these world-shaping companies. Let's start off by taking a quick look back at Q4 and some numbers for Google Cloud, Microsoft, and AWS.
00:34 — I'm not including Oracle in this hyperscaler comparison because it's on a different financial reporting schedule, and I recently covered Oracle's most recent financial results in detail. So if we compare the Q4 growth rates for Google Cloud, Microsoft, and AWS: 48%, 26%, 24%. Now some people say, “Oh, that's not fair. That's not legit. Google Cloud is so much smaller.”
01:01 — Let's look: $17.7 billion for Google Cloud, $51.3 billion for Microsoft, $35.6 for AWS. So AWS is about twice as big as Google Cloud, and relative to Microsoft, Microsoft is three times bigger than Google Cloud. Riddle me this: how then, if you look at Q4 cloud and AI revenue versus Q3, Google Cloud came up with more revenue — more incremental Q4 over Q3 revenue — $2.5 billion versus $2.4?
02:23 — Yet AWS came up with more — significantly more — revenue Q4 over Q3 than Microsoft did: $2.6 billion versus $2.4. Now what does that mean? Well, it could be a temporary blip. It could be an anomaly. I think all of these things are valid. They all are pointing toward bets that customers are making about who is the company best equipped to take my company into the AI future.
03:49 — Google Cloud came up with almost as much as AWS. And to me, that just says Google Cloud is the hot company right now. So let me wrap up here with an outlook for Q1. I think both Google Cloud and Microsoft say that they will be releasing their financial results for Q1 on April 29. I think we're going to see Google Cloud report a growth rate of 44%, Microsoft 25%, and AWS 23%.
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Highlights
00:09 — Microsoft’s global investments continue to grow. Latest news is the company plans to invest $10 billion into Japan over the next three years to build out AI infrastructure, improve cyber resilience, and train a million engineers and developers by 2030.
00:28 — Our key partnerships include internet infrastructure provider Secura Internet, whose share price rose over 20% following the announcement, and SoftBank, already a major player in the AI revolution. Now, thanks to Secura Internet’s data infrastructure, the data used to develop various AI systems, including domestic large language models, will be processed in Japan.
00:57 — Now, in terms of training, Microsoft is also partnered with five other Japanese IT firms, including NTT Data Corp, NEC, Fujitsu, and Hitachi, to deliver this ambitious target. Now, the two-point focus here on both infrastructure and training is becoming a common strategy for companies building the next generation of AI systems.
01:22 — However, instead of solely focusing on the domestic market, Microsoft is continuing its global investment drive by enabling in-country training, leveraging the incredible skills base already available within existing organizations. Now, let’s not overlook the importance of data sovereignty, either.
01:41 — It’s increasingly important to adhere to the laws governing where data resides, and these laws are only becoming more stringent. Not only is Microsoft future-proofing itself, it’s also cultivating the next generation of Azure customers and AI-native enterprises aligned with its platforms.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I break down OpenAI’s massive $122 billion funding round and what it means for the future of AI infrastructure.
Highlights00:04 — OpenAI has completed its latest funding round with $122 billion in committed capital. The company explained the reasoning behind such a massive investment by highlighting that after reaching a billion dollars in revenue in its first year, it's now generating $2 billion in revenue per month, more than 40% of which is driven by the company's enterprise products.
00:54 — So what will it do with all of this funding? Well, the answer to that is a lot, but for the purposes of this minute, I'm going to dig into its core goals. Now, one of the major expansion areas is in infrastructure, as demand for AI systems is increasing.
01:13 — OpenAI recognizes that no single architecture can meet the demands of this diverse range of needs and expectations. So to that end, the company is building a broader infrastructure portfolio that incorporates cloud services, chips, and design partners.
01:43 — And then there's the AI Super App. OpenAI said in a blog post, our Super App will bring together ChatGPT, Codex, browsing, and our broader agentic capabilities into one agent-first experience.
01:58 — This is not just product simplification, it is a distribution and deployment strategy. Adding the capital being deployed today is helping build the infrastructure layer for intelligence itself.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explain how ServiceNow is enabling secure, scalable adoption of AI agents across the enterprise.
Highlights
00:03 — ServiceNow is joining forces with Zenity, the first security and governance platform that's been purpose-built for AI agents. Zenity is becoming a ServiceNow build partner, bringing with it a range of capabilities to ServiceNow Security Operations, including agent security, posture management, and vulnerability assessment.
00:25 — Deepak Kolingivadi, VP of Product Management and Head of Security Products at ServiceNow, said the following about this new partnership: “AI agents are transforming how work gets done across the enterprise, including Security Operations. Our partnership with Zenity strengthens the ServiceNow AI control tower and Security Operations solutions.”
01:01 — Now, collectively, these new capabilities bring to ServiceNow customers a greater ability to scale the use of AI agents safely and with full confidence as part of their existing SecOps processes. And what we're seeing here is ultimately a new category, AI Security Operations, or AI SecOps.
01:26 — It's also important to note that by embedding this governance layer through its build partnership, ServiceNow is demonstrating that it's truly ahead of the curve here. All new products delivered by software vendors need integrated security and governance, and agentic AI is no exception.
01:58 — The key word here is scale. ServiceNow has the tools to drive AI across the breadth of a business, and now through Zenity, it's delivering the ability to do this at scale.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explore how Microsoft’s latest Windows changes reveal a strategic shift toward more intentional AI integration and focused Copilot experiences.
Highlights
00:09 — It was only a short paragraph in a blog post by Microsoft’s Pavan Davuluri, Executive Vice President of Windows and Devices, discussing the changes the company is making to Windows in response to community feedback. However, it has significant implications and, if you pick it apart, could provide a better understanding of where Microsoft is directing its AI ambitions.
00:36 — Here’s the paragraph in full: “With craft and focus, you will see us be more intentional about how and where Copilot integrates across Windows, focusing on experiences that are genuinely useful and well crafted,” says Davuluri. “As part of this, we are reducing unnecessary Copilot entry points, starting with apps like Snipping Tool, Photos, Widgets, and Notepad.”
01:05 — When Microsoft went all out on the Copilot rollout across its massive ecosystem of products, platforms, and services, some commentators argued that this push could overwhelm consumers. Instead, a more targeted approach would perhaps make it easier for customers to see the benefits and, critically, the use cases that Copilot can amplify.
01:28 — It seems that Microsoft has taken these concerns into consideration and is now scaling back the areas where Copilot is utilized. This is a smart move from a Windows perspective, as it prioritizes value over volume, and this approach aligns well with the evolving direction of Copilot Studio, which focuses on creating agentic experiences.
01:53 — Now Microsoft is consolidating its AI offerings by moving away from the idea of having Copilot everywhere. Instead, agents developed through Copilot Studio will be able to plug into specific execution environments, just like Windows.
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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I explore how Salesforce is betting big on Slackbot to power the AI agentic enterprise.
Highlights
00:02 — We are seeing enormous changes take place among the leading enterprise applications vendors, with the rise of AI. Business customers are expecting a different way of working here in the emergence of the AI Economy. So at Salesforce, I believe Marc Benioff has decided to go all in on Slackbot to drive what Salesforce is calling the AI agentic enterprise.
00:29 — Now this is critical, because Salesforce is the largest enterprise applications vendor in the world. It also has an $800 million Agentforce business that it has built up, and it's taking both of those key components from agentic AI and also their enterprise apps business, and sort of putting those under the control of the orchestration of Slackbot, a brand new product.
01:15 — Benioff said that we are seeing in the business world the very beginnings of an AI agentic divide, where he said, on the one hand, there are customers that have understood the way they need to get into this, how to use agentic AI to do things better. And then, on the other hand, coming in there, saying, "Ah, you know, I'm not sure. I'm going to sit back and wait for this."
02:08 — He said Slackbot is already the fastest-growing feature ever in the history of Salesforce. He said it might be the fastest-growing feature in all of enterprise technology. And secondly — this is pretty wild — he said Slackbot and Slack are already disintermediating Salesforce.
04:36 — And he said, it’s our job not to just sit back and scratch our heads about this, but to help companies be able to address these changes, get out in front of them, get on top of them. And Salesforce believes that Slack and Slackbot, in particular, are going to be the ways that that happens.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I examine how Business Central is transforming ERP with strong financial returns and AI-driven capabilities.
Highlights
00:10 — A new Forrester report commissioned by Microsoft, entitled "The Total Economic Impact of Microsoft Dynamics 365 Business Central," has revealed some remarkable findings regarding the financial impact this standout cloud ERP is having on customers.
00:36 — And here's what it found: 209% ROI over three years, an estimated $464,000 net present value, and potential payback in just six months. The researchers aggregated the findings from interviewees and created a fictitious composite organization to develop this model.
00:58 — In their modeling, the researchers found that by year three, the composite company was experiencing a 30% reduction in monthly close time and up to 50% time savings for accounts payable, accounts receivable, and billing. It reduced audit preparation time by up to 30%.
01:19 — Consolidating outdated ERP products and systems led to more than a 10% reduction in total cost of ownership and over $170,000 in present value savings from withdrawn systems and decreased maintenance.
01:37 — Microsoft links these impressive results to how Business Central represents an AI-ready ERP foundation, enabling organizations to leverage Copilot, Power BI, and intelligent agents while emphasizing clean data, integrated systems, and standardized processes.
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In this AI Agent & Copilot Minute, Mason Siefert explores how Dynamics 365 is evolving into the agentic era — transforming financial reconciliation and accounts payable into continuous, intelligent processes, and previews what’s ahead at Summit North America 2026.
Key Takeaways
- Agent Evolution: The journey from manual processes to copilots and now fully autonomous agents marks a fundamental shift in enterprise finance. While early tools accelerated workflows, today’s agents proactively execute tasks end-to-end, reducing human intervention and enabling finance professionals to focus on higher-value strategic work rather than repetitive operations.
- Continuous Finance: Financial reconciliation has transformed from a stressful, multi-day effort into an always-on background process. Autonomous agents continuously match and verify records across systems, eliminating bottlenecks and dramatically improving efficiency, accuracy, and consistency across financial operations without requiring manual initiation.
- Fraud Reduction: Accounts payable agents not only automate invoice matching but actively reduce fraud risk by cross-referencing invoices against purchase orders and learning from human corrections. With organizations facing high rates of fraud attempts, these adaptive systems provide a critical layer of intelligence and protection while minimizing costly manual errors.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I unpack how Oracle is redefining data activation with agentic AI capabilities.
Highlights
00:03 — I recently talked about some big plans that Oracle has for fusing agentic AI into its applications and calling those Oracle agentic applications. Now it's extended its whole mantra from a couple of years ago that came from Chairman and Founder, Larry Ellison, where he said AI changes everything.
00:28 — Oracle's taken that very much to heart, and they're extending their agentic AI push deeply into their AI Database. There's a couple things I want to point out. In the larger sense, I think what's going on here is we're seeing the hunted turn into the hunter, right?
01:20 — I think in large part, not so much that the theory was wrong, although I do think it is wrong, but more because Oracle took the initiative, and instead, its pace of innovation and change and product development and customer-centric enhancements have been at a pace far beyond what any of these single-purpose competitors are doing.
02:12 — Now with AI, the point of Oracle's move here is to say we're going to bring AI to the data, instead of having to move all the data around here. And nobody's in a better position to be able to do that now than Oracle.
03:03 — [Oracle Executive Vice President Juan Loaiza] said, with the Oracle AI database, customers now, they don't just store data passively in a warehouse. Instead, he said, customers will be able to activate their data for AI and make decisions around data with stock-exchange-level robustness in every leading cloud.
04:00 — But the larger point here, too, is about, when Larry Ellison said publicly AI changes everything, that was a pretty clear indication that he was going to be leading this entire effort to go completely across the entire company, every facet of Oracle's massive portfolio is going to become AI-first.
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In this episode of Cloud Wars Live, Bob Evans sits down with Bonnie Tinder, Founder and CEO of Raven Intelligence, to unpack a whirlwind week in enterprise software. As AI reshapes the landscape at breakneck speed, the two explore major announcements from Oracle and Workday. Bonnie offers sharp analysis on the strategic differences between Workday’s user-centric AI assistant approach and Oracle’s autonomous, end-to-end agentic applications.
Episode 59: Enterprise AI Showdown
The Big Themes:
- Oracle’s Autonomous AI Vision: Oracle is taking a more aggressive approach with its agentic AI applications, introducing 22 AI-driven tools that can execute entire business processes. Unlike assistive AI, Oracle’s agents can reason, decide, and act with minimal human intervention. This represents a shift toward AI as a “digital workforce,” capable of handling complex, cross-functional operations.
- End-to-End Business Process Automation: One of Oracle’s biggest differentiators is its ability to automate complete workflows across multiple business functions. For example, designing a product while simultaneously evaluating supply chain risks and costs. This eliminates the traditional handoffs between departments and enables a holistic, real-time view of operations. By integrating data across systems and processes, Oracle’s AI can deliver more comprehensive insights and faster execution — potentially transforming how enterprises manage complex workflows.
- ROI and Consumption-Based Models: AI is also changing pricing and operating models. Workday’s shift toward consumption-based pricing means customers pay based on usage rather than per-employee licensing. This can make adoption more flexible and cost-effective, but it also requires careful ROI analysis. Companies must consider not just technology costs, but also potential workforce changes, efficiency gains, and redeployment of employees. Understanding the financial impact of AI investments is critical for long-term success.
The Big Quote: “The high-risk areas you don't want to touch necessarily. You want to look at the high volume potentially first, to fully automate."
More from Bonnie Tinder:
Connect with Bonnie on LinkedIn.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I review SAP’s move toward AI usage-based pricing and what it means for the future of SaaS, customer engagement, and enterprise software delivery.
Highlights
00:04 — SAP CEO Christian Klein has announced the company intends to shift away from a traditional subscription model towards a pricing model based on AI usage. Klein stated that pricing must reflect the actual usage of AI by customers now.
00:23 — Ultimately, Klein recognizes that the existing subscription model, which is a traditional SaaS model charging per user, is not the right fit for an evolving landscape where AI agents are automating an increasing number of tasks.
00:40 — To support this shift, SAP will be launching forward-deployed engineering teams that include consultants and developers who will work directly with customers to build out dedicated AI applications. It's important to note that this will not be an immediate change, but rather a direction of travel. However, it does align with the company's AI ambitions.
01:22 — Not only is SAP reportedly changing its pricing model to align with the agentic AI Era, but it's also shifting its delivery methods with the proposed forward-deployed engineering teams. This approach feels more aligned with consulting than it does traditional SaaS support.
01:44 — This transformation will impact revenue streams, customer engagement, sales, and investor relations all at once. However, this is not only a necessary shift for SAP, but one that could help the company retain its position as a global tech leader and perhaps even surpass its competitors.
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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I review SAP's acquisition of Reltio to enhance the Business Data Cloud, expand opportunities for customers, and continue its transformation to being an AI-first, data-first company.
Highlights
00:07 — SAP made a big move to deepen its capabilities around data to power what it's doing in AI, with plans to acquire Reltio. The real goal of this is to be able to fuel SAP's ambitions for agentic AI, particularly as it moves to convert its vast portfolio of enterprise applications to agentic AI applications.
00:58 — This move extends SAP's transformation that has been in-progress for several years now. It's working to shed its enterprise apps reputation and rather be recognized as an AI-first, data-first company.
02:27 — Customers will benefit from capabilities through Reltio to get clean, high-quality data that's fully harmonized, pulling from both SAP and non-SAP systems.
03:03 — SAP has been working hard, leading up to the launch of its data cloud, to bring in more capabilities. This acquisition demonstrates the strategic importance of the SAP Business Data Cloud and enhances what the company is doing with it.
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In this episode of Cloud Wars Live, Bob Evans sits down with Pankaj Goel, CEO of Opkey, to explore how agentic AI is reshaping ERP implementations and the broader systems integrator landscape. Goel shares how Opkey’s platform automates the full lifecycle of enterprise applications — from design through testing and support — while addressing long-standing inefficiencies in implementation models. The discussion highlights the growing urgency for speed, cost efficiency, and business outcomes in the AI Era, and how digital workers are enabling organizations to rethink both delivery models and competitive positioning.
AI Transforms ERP
The Big Themes:
- AI Reshapes ERP Delivery Models: The conversation underscores a major disconnect between modern cloud ERP adoption and outdated implementation methodologies. While enterprises are rapidly shifting toward cloud-based systems like Oracle, SAP, and Workday, many systems integrators still rely on legacy approaches rooted in early-2000s practices. This mismatch results in inefficiencies, cost overruns, and delayed outcomes. Opkey addresses this gap by introducing AI-driven automation that aligns delivery models with the speed and flexibility required in today’s AI Economy.
- Massive Time and Cost Savings: The platform delivers measurable efficiency gains. Customers report up to 40% reductions in day-to-day operational time post-implementation, while testing cycles shrink from weeks to just a few days. For systems integrators, implementation costs have dropped by approximately 25% in early deployments. These improvements not only enhance productivity but also enable faster innovation cycles, allowing businesses to respond more quickly to market changes.
- A Win-Win Ecosystem Vision: Opkey’s strategy is built around creating value for all stakeholders: ERP vendors, systems integrators, and end customers. By improving implementation success rates, reducing costs, and accelerating time to value, the platform fosters a “win-win” ecosystem. This holistic approach ensures that innovation benefits the entire enterprise software value chain, rather than optimizing for one group at the expense of others.
The Big Quote: “Copilots. . . help you understand your information better, whereas agents and agentic AI is a fundamentally different way of conceiving work. Think of an AI agent as a digital worker, just like you used to have Oracle administrators in past and your business analysts."
More from Pankaj Goel and Opkey:
Connect with Pankaj on LinkedIn or learn more about Opkey Release Advisor and CALM.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I unpack the convergence of tech and energy and what it means for the future of business leadership.
Highlights
00:00 — We are seeing here in 2026 the collapsing of traditional industry boundaries. AI is helping to drive this. A whole new way of doing business is powering this. And mostly what's happening is we're seeing visionary leaders in the tech industry, energy, utilities, power, and other places realize the old story that what got us here won't get us there.
00:35 — So I wanted to talk a little bit today about a big new partnership between Google Cloud and a century-old industrial power company called Baker Hughes. And they're looking together to join forces to do things that neither could do individually, to juice up the AI Economy and address insatiable demand for power in AI data centers.
01:38 — So much growth here, and all this is forcing traditional industry boundaries to be reconsidered. These digital-native software companies are now worried about where electrons come from, and they’ve got to get upstream integrated into the power and energy industry to keep this going.
02:20 — Now you got these extremely capable companies like Baker Hughes that have never faced such an extraordinary spike in demand. This fusion or blurring of the lines between the tech industry and the energy/power industry is going to be enormously important.
03:01 — They’re looking at the possibility of fusion reactors. Fusion is one of the world’s most high-potential but difficult technologies, and if it works, energy problems are solved. The fusion of the tech industry into the energy industry will shorten that distance dramatically.
04:14 — Are you hung up on the traditions of the past? Or are you seeing a very different future where those boundaries don’t exist? Don’t be caught on the back edge of that.
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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I explore how Oracle is redefining enterprise software by fusing AI agents directly into applications.
Highlights
00:03 — Again, busy days here in the early part of 2026. I had a great video interview with Oracle Executive Vice President Steve Miranda. He's been in charge of applications development at Oracle for more than 20 years, and Steve made a few key points about these new agenetic applications.
00:56 — And his main point was, you take all the existing value that applications have had about governing processes being established, customers are comfortable with them, and then you enhance those with new agentic AI capabilities to allow those now, instead of just applications, these AI agentic applications, to do more than they had been able to do before.
01:59 — And at the same time, I think one of the big points here that Miranda said with these now is that business people are going to be able to spend less time managing their processes and more time devoting their efforts and energy and their technology to being drivers of business outcomes that they want: more growth, more innovation, better experiences for customers.
02:49 — This whole confusion, and in some ways this just crazy time we’ve been through, you know, where SaaS business applications are going to go away — I guess, you know, almost two and a half years ago, when Satya Nadella made this point — such an intelligent person.
04:07 — I think what Oracle is doing here, and especially in the words of Steve Miranda, is going to bring a lot of calm and assurance to people that it is not an either/or game: agents or business applications. Now it’s both.
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In this episode of Cloud Wars Live, Bob Evans speaks with Steve Miranda, Executive Vice President of Applications Development at Oracle, about the company’s latest leap into AI-driven enterprise software. Miranda outlines Oracle’s introduction of “agentic applications,” a new category that blends AI agents, automation, and business workflows into outcome-driven systems. He explains how Oracle’s strategy has evolved from embedding AI into apps to building thousands of agents — and now to delivering fully agentic apps that transform how users interact with enterprise software. The conversation highlights both the opportunity and confusion customers face in this rapidly shifting AI landscape.
Rise of Agentic AI
The Big Themes:
- From Features to Outcomes: A major shift is the move from feature-based software to outcome-driven systems. Instead of executing predefined tasks, AI agents are now given business goals, such as optimizing supply chains or improving financial performance, and they generate multiple strategies to achieve them. Users then act as decision-makers, selecting preferred options. This represents a profound change in human-computer interaction, where software becomes a collaborative partner.
- Explosive Growth of AI Agents: Oracle’s rapid expansion from around 50–100 agents to over 1,000 demonstrates the accelerating pace of AI adoption. This growth reflects both customer demand and the scalability of AI-driven architectures. The agents are not limited to simple automation but are capable of reasoning, analyzing enterprise-wide data, and making recommendations. This scale also lays the foundation for agentic applications.
- Future of SaaS Reimagined: Miranda makes it clear that SaaS is undergoing a fundamental transformation. Traditional applications will coexist with agentic systems for now, but the long-term trajectory points toward AI-driven interfaces becoming dominant. Oracle plans to expand agentic capabilities across its entire application suite, from finance to supply chain to HR. As AI-to-AI interactions and data integration improve, these systems will become even more powerful.
The Big Quote: “These are agents where you're giving the agent a business outcome and a goal, and the agents [are] recommending to you optimizations or how you get there. And then you, as a user or human in the middle of this process, actually instruct those agents on which of the plans to execute, and it goes ahead and automates and executes those transactions. So it's a fundamentally different way of presenting the applications."
More from Steve Miranda:
Connect with Steve on LinkedIn or learn more about AI agents for Fusion Applications.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explore how Oracle is using AI to unify and transform the fragmented healthcare ecosystem.
Highlights
00:03 — Early in 2026, we're seeing big strides made across all industries with AI, but in particular, there's enormous promise for AI in healthcare. So, I had a chance recently to speak with Oracle Executive Vice President Seema Verma. She's in charge of healthcare and health and life sciences.
01:06 —And one of the things that Seema talked about here is that, for too long, every part of the healthcare industry has been caught up in these point solutions, which worked well for their very narrow slice. But in these days, that's just too much manual effort, too much time required, too much movement attempting to stitch together different data models.
01:33 — And especially now with AI coming, the data has to be centralized. It's got to be in one place, clean, secure, and ready to go. So in this video interview, Seema talks about some of the advances Oracle's making. She said, “We're addressing the big pain points.”
02:06 — She talked a lot about identity, authentication, the ability for doctors and offices to be able to listen and look directly at the patient instead of typing on the keyboard while the AI is recording and transcribing it and bringing up other relevant information.
04:05 — So I do love this big, sprawling effort here, the end-to-end initiative. I think more and more we're going to be seeing that the big application, slash agents, slash data, slash AI, companies like Oracle are going to go after this more on a big, comprehensive basis.
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In this episode of Cloud Wars Live, Bob Evans speaks with Seema Verma, Executive Vice President and General Manager of Oracle Health and Life Sciences, about how AI is reshaping the healthcare industry. Drawing on her experience leading the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, Verma explains how Oracle is tackling one of the world’s most complex sectors with an end-to-end, AI-driven approach. The conversation explores how automation, modern electronic health records, and intelligent agents can reduce administrative costs, improve patient care, and unify fragmented healthcare systems into a more efficient and responsive ecosystem.
Oracle Healthcare Vision
The Big Themes:
- AI as Healthcare Backbone: Oracle is not approaching healthcare transformation as a collection of isolated tools but as a unified, AI-driven ecosystem. Unlike past efforts that layered technology onto outdated systems, Oracle is rebuilding infrastructure from the ground up with AI at its core. This allows automation to flow across the entire system rather than remaining siloed. The result is a more cohesive healthcare environment where decisions, processes, and outcomes are interconnected, enabling true industry-wide transformation rather than incremental improvements.
- Clinical AI Agents in Action: One of the most compelling innovations discussed is Oracle’s clinical AI agent, which listens to doctor-patient interactions and automatically generates notes, recommendations, and workflows. This technology goes beyond documentation — it initiates next steps such as prescribing medications, ordering tests, and suggesting billing codes. Physicians benefit from reduced administrative workload, allowing them to focus on patient interaction.
- Clinical Trials Transformation: Clinical trials are another area ripe for disruption, with only 1–2% of eligible patients participating due to outdated recruitment methods. Oracle is addressing this by matching patients to trials using real-time health data. Instead of manual processes like bulletin board sign-ups, AI can identify eligible participants and notify both clinicians and patients.
The Big Quote: “Fifty percent, sixty percent of the costs are labor-oriented. And if we look at the growth in healthcare, that's not changing, we see high prices in drugs, one of the fastest-growing areas. And so here's where AI has an incredible opportunity here to really transform the industry and get rid of a lot of that repetitive, manual work and increase efficiency."
More from Seema Verma:
Connect with Seema on LinkedIn or learn more about Oracle, health, and AI.
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Key Takeaways
- Wellness-focused consumers are flooded with health data from wearable health tech and portals but lack the time and expertise to interpret what it actually means.
- To combat this, Copilot Health securely unifies data from hospitals, labs, and wearables to detect early health patterns and guide wellness decisions, making advanced medical insight accessible to everyone.
- Because hallucinations are dangerous in healthcare, Microsoft mitigated risk by embedding physician oversight into Copilot Health’s training and governance. Specifically, Microsoft's multi-agent orchestration layer of Copilot Health scored 85% when diagnosing 304 complex medical cases, four times better than experienced physicians did.
- At a broader level, AI-driven health systems promise enterprise cost savings and productivity gains while signaling a shift toward more human-like agents, making it paramount that innovation is matched with equally strong security.
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In this episode of Cloud Wars Live, Bob Evans speaks with Nathan Thomas, Senior Vice President of Product Management for Oracle Cloud Infrastructure, about the explosive growth and transformative potential of Oracle’s multi-cloud database strategy. Thomas explains how Oracle is enabling customers to run mission-critical databases across AWS, Microsoft Azure, and Google Cloud while unlocking new AI-driven innovation. Their discussion dives into how multi-cloud is reshaping enterprise mindsets, accelerating cloud migrations, and helping organizations fully leverage their data for next-generation applications and agentic AI.
Multi-Cloud Momentum
The Big Themes:
- Multi-Cloud Demand Explodes: Oracle’s multi-cloud database is seeing massive demand, driven by customers wanting to run Oracle workloads in the same cloud environments as their applications. This shift eliminates friction between systems. The surge is amplified by AI, as organizations look to connect their data with services like Gemini, Bedrock, and Copilot. The reported 500%+ growth reflects not just technical appeal but a fundamental change in how enterprises think about infrastructure.
- AI Is the Growth Catalyst: Artificial intelligence is accelerating multi-cloud adoption at an unprecedented pace. Customers want their data co-located with AI tools and pipelines, enabling faster insights and innovation. Instead of moving data across environments with latency constraints, multi-cloud lets organizations bring AI to their data. This creates a powerful feedback loop where better access drives more experimentation and faster results.
- New Builders, New Energy: The adoption of multi-cloud is bringing in a new generation of developers and AI-focused professionals. These users are actively engaging with enterprise data to build innovative applications and AI-driven solutions. This marks a shift from traditional, tightly controlled database environments to more dynamic, accessible platforms. Organizations are no longer treating their data as static assets, they’re using it as a foundation for continuous innovation and competitive advantage.
The Big Quote: “We hear from customers a lot that they struggle with what I would call the tyranny of choice. There's just way too many options, way too complicated."
More from Nathan Thomas and Oracle:
Connect with Nathan on LinkedIn or learn more about Oracle and multi-cloud.
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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I examine how AI and data access are accelerating unprecedented cooperation among cloud leaders.
Highlights
00:03 — It's been two and a half years now since that momentous interview featuring Satya Nadella and Larry Ellison talking about their partnership to do multi-cloud between Oracle and Microsoft. And in some ways, I regard this as the multi-cloud miracle, because we've accepted it.
01:10 — It's opening up more ways in which competing tech vendors are going to work together to drive better benefits, better outcomes for customers. So, I had a very interesting interview with Nathan Thomas, Senior Vice President for Product Marketing at Oracle Cloud Infrastructure, where he heads up the multi-cloud effort. And I wanted to talk to him about the benefits.
02:24 — I want to also go back quickly and touch on what Nadella and Ellison talked about two and a half years ago. One of Ellison's first points, he said, this just makes it easier for customers, and they get the benefits of both Microsoft's top technology and Oracle's top technology optimized to work together.
03:36 — At the time, he said, OpenAI, take it to where the data is. So two and a half years ago, Nadella was very keen on this subject of how this multi-cloud partnership between Oracle and Microsoft would benefit the early days of the AI movement.
04:44 — And when you put it in terms of business outcomes, then these competitive things that are behind the scenes matter less and less. So this is an interesting time. I hope we'll see more of this.
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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I discuss the significant leadership changes at Oracle and what they signal for the company’s future.
Highlights
00:03 — One of the things that has become clear over the last several months is that there are big changes taking place at the top of Oracle. I wanted to go into that a little bit, particularly how this is all leading up to what is an excellent new adventure for company co-founder and chairman Larry Ellison.
00:21 — I think it's a remarkable time here. Now, clearly, I’m not saying that Larry Ellison is stepping aside. I mean, six months ago, we saw longtime CEO Safra Katz move from CEO. She elected to move to the new position of executive vice chairman. In those six months, we've also seen the ascendancy of new CEOs, Mike Sicilia and Clay Magouyrk.
01:09 — Again, this is not about Larry Ellison leaving. I think the new adventure he has was really brought into clear light on the March 10 fiscal Q3 earnings call for Oracle, when there was no opening statement by Larry Ellison. I mean, that's something he's done for the last 150, 160 earnings calls.
01:50 — Then, in the Q&A session on that March 10 earnings call, there were seven questions asked. None of them was aimed at Larry Ellison. They were all aimed at Magouyrk and Sicilia. After the final question, he added some thoughts to what Mike Sicilia had said. His point there is to say these are the new leaders of Oracle, the people helping now to set the direction, execute it, and make sure we're going in the right way.
02:40 — The new CEOs are doing a great job. In my estimation, the way they handled themselves in the answers on the March 10 earnings call was terrific. They were very, very, very persuasive, impressive, and compelling. So we can say this is the end of an era, but I think another way to look at it is that it's the beginning of a new era for Oracle.
04:05 — New ideas, speed, the ability to do things that customers haven't ever done before — and Sicilia and Magouyrk clearly have won the full confidence of Larry Ellison and Safra Catz, who believe now, as Ellison said on that March 10 earnings call, Oracle's future is bright.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I examine how Health 100 signals a major shift toward AI-powered, patient-centric healthcare ecosystems.
Highlights
00:03 —Google Cloud has partnered with CVS Health to launch an AI-driven health data platform called Health 100. The platform unifies patient data from a variety of sources, enabling more streamlined health management. CVS Health, which operates both an insurer and a pharmacy retailer, is embracing the spirit of the AI revolutions.
00:36 — Health 100 will connect benefit managers, pharmacies, healthcare providers, and digital health systems into a single platform, regardless of the companies supplying them. And there's more details coming, but what we know so far is that Health 100 will tap built-in AI and generative AI to act as an always-on personal healthcare partner.
01:00 — It will deliver care options faster, be operated on mobile, and interact visually and through voice interactions. Patient data will be protected through Google Cloud security and compliance infrastructure. Now, this is just the latest in a series of partnerships through which Google Cloud is enabling companies to innovate in the healthcare space.
01:24 — Google Cloud is really standing out as a leader now, I think, in this area, focusing on agentic AI in the healthcare space. Now, while agents have been making significant strides in various business sectors and industries, it's really fascinating for me to see the momentum shifting into healthcare.
02:00 — Now we're talking about agentic workflows for patients driven by their own data. This progress is only possible with stringent governance and compliance, and as Google Cloud describes its infrastructure security as “secure by default,” companies are certainly supporting this new era of healthcare from solid foundations.
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In this episode of the AI Agent & Copilot Podcast, Tom Smith is joined by Kieron Allen, an industry analyst and AI observer, who shares insights from the 2026 AI Agent & Copilot Summit NA in San Diego. Together, they unpack major themes from the event, including agent orchestration, workforce reskilling, MCP’s enterprise impact, and the evolving human-AI partnership.
Key Takeaways
- Human + AI Orchestration Is the New Core Skill: Allen underscores that orchestration is not just about technology—it’s about people managing AI systems effectively. Humans have to view agents as part of the workforce. This means employees must develop skills to coordinate, supervise, and optimize AI agents, treating them as collaborators rather than tools. The ability to orchestrate multiple agents will become a defining competency in modern organizations.
- Reskilling Must Address Culture and Collaboration One of Allen's strongest points is that reskilling goes beyond technical training. “We need to understand the AI… not just the tools, but also the cultural elements.” Organizations must prepare employees to work alongside AI, interpret outputs, and adapt workflows. This includes fostering trust in AI systems, redefining job roles, and building a culture that embraces continuous learning and collaboration with intelligent agents.
- MCP is Unlocking Massive Enterprise Efficiency: Smith highlights MCP as a breakthrough, describing it as a “USB-type connector” between AI and enterprise systems. With up to “650,000 actions” now automatable in Dynamics 365, MCP dramatically reduces manual effort. This standard simplifies integration across platforms, accelerates deployment, and enables scalable automation—making it a cornerstone for organizations looking to operationalize AI at scale.
- Customer-Centric AI Learning is Accelerating Adoption: Allen observes that many professionals are attending the conference not just for internal use, but because “they’re attending this conference… for their customers.” This reflects a shift where AI literacy is becoming essential for delivering value externally. Businesses are recognizing that understanding AI enables them to better anticipate client needs, create new offerings, and remain competitive.
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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I question whether OpenAI’s $140 billion enterprise revenue target is a realistic strategy or a speculative leap.
Highlights
00:03 — It was announced recently, or revealed recently, that OpenAI expects that its revenue will hit about $280 billion by the year 2030, half of that enterprise, half of it consumer. So that would mean that by 2030, OpenAI, according to this CNBC report citing anonymous, confidential sources, will have its enterprise revenue be about $140 billion in five years, or less than five years now.
00:48 — As Larry Ellison said, “The baby could talk.” There has been a huge amount of interest around OpenAI. It has also stirred up considerable head-scratching with its agreements to purchase $300 billion of AI training and inferencing from Oracle, and about the same amount, maybe even a little more, from Microsoft. Now, all of this has people wondering, who is this company? What's it going to do?
01:47 — They said it's confidential, but they've seen information about OpenAI’s plans, so maybe we need to take this with a grain of salt. And I typically regard anonymous sourcing reports with about the same passion and love that I have for skin rashes. But I think because of the implications here for OpenAI and what it might mean, I thought this was at least worth mentioning.
02:26 — But they also said that, seeing that OpenAI has now changed its projections for how much compute or AI infrastructure spending it needs to do, Sam Altman had recently said it's going to be $1.4 trillion. Well now, according to the CNBC report, he's pulled that back to about $600 billion. That's a cut of $800 billion, or about 57% of the projections.
03:36 — So the more compute spending we do, the more revenue OpenAI is able to get—that is her premise. Now, if they are indeed cutting their compute and AI infrastructure spending by $800 billion, how then does that equate to this explosive revenue growth? And was that premise—that compute growth equals revenue growth—not true?
04:29 — Now, what about if key suppliers such as Oracle and Microsoft, perhaps Google Cloud, perhaps AWS, are also in this expansive scheme by OpenAI to reach $140 billion in enterprise revenue in four and a half years? What if they become competitors? How do they feel about continuing to be the suppliers of this engine of revenue growth?
05:26 — I don't mean in raising these questions to diminish the impact or the potential that OpenAI has. I think, like any fast-growing category creator as OpenAI has been, there's no roadmap, nobody's done this before, there's no playbook, and they've got to make this up as they go along.
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In this episode of the AI Agent & Copilot Podcast, host Tom Smith speaks with Vaishali Vinay, Data Scientist at Microsoft, and Raghav Bhatta, Data Scientist at Microsoft, about their upcoming masterclass at the 2026 AI Agent & Copilot Summit NA in San Diego. They discuss how AI can serve as a threat research partner for cybersecurity teams, augmenting human expertise in threat hunting and detection engineering while helping organizations proactively defend against increasingly sophisticated cyber attacks.
Key Takeaways
- AI as a Threat Research Partner: Vinay explains that traditional threat hunting and detection engineering have historically been highly manual processes requiring significant time and expertise. AI can now assist by analyzing attacker behavior and identifying detection opportunities faster. As Vinay notes, the goal is to augment our human experts and accelerate this threat research process much faster.
- Scaling Cyber Defense in an AI-Powered Threat Landscape: Bhatta highlights that as AI adoption grows across industries, the volume of data and potential attack vectors increases rapidly. Organizations must therefore adapt AI for defensive purposes as well. “The amount of data which is produced… is increasing at a nonlinear scale,” Bhatta explains. AI copilots help defenders process this scale by assisting with detection engineering, threat hunting, and proactive defense strategies that protect infrastructure and customers from evolving cyber threats.
- Capturing and Sharing ‘Tribal Knowledge’ Through AI: Cybersecurity often depends on the deep experience of veteran researchers who understand attacker behavior patterns. Bhatta suggests AI copilots can help scale that expertise across teams. He explains that copilots can serve as a “source of tribal knowledge,” enabling newer analysts and teams to leverage insights that historically lived only in the heads of experienced researchers. This dramatically increases productivity and knowledge transfer within security organizations.
- AI Attackers vs. AI Defenders: The session also acknowledges that cyber attackers are increasingly leveraging AI themselves. That makes defensive innovation essential. Vinay and Bhatta emphasize the importance of building AI systems that analyze attack techniques and automatically recommend detection rules. This dynamic defense model enables security teams to react faster to emerging threats and reduces the manual workload traditionally required to understand complex attack patterns.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I look at why the AI economy is fueling unprecedented demand for cloud services and pushing the world’s top vendors into hypergrowth again.
Highlights
00:03 — Things are off to a hot start here in early 2026 with the growth rates for the world's top cloud and AI vendors within the Cloud Wars Top 10 growing nicely across the board here because of the demand from customers for AI and cloud services. In fact, we're seeing the return of hypergrowth, 40% or higher growth rates.
00:27 — Hadn't seen that for a while, and this installment of the Cloud Wars Growth Chart we've got three vendors in that category: Palantir at 70%, Google Cloud at 48%, Oracle at 44%. Behind this all is massive customer demand for cloud and AI services, data, agents, and insights as companies prepare themselves for the rapidly approaching AI economy.
01:47 — Palantir, as I said, was number one, 70%, just over $1.4 billion in revenue last quarter. Google Cloud: 48% to $17.7 billion. Oracle: 44%, $8.9 billion in cloud revenue in its most recent quarter. Microsoft: 26% growth rate on $51.5 billion — by far the largest cloud and AI services vendor.
02:41 — And then SAP in a tie with Microsoft here for fourth place: 26% growth, $6.6 billion in revenue. Across the board for all of the Top 10 companies, we saw an increase in the growth rate from the last time I did the Cloud Wars Growth Chart, which was in mid-December.
03:47 — Businesses are expressing and showing enormous demand for these AI and cloud services. And I think in that context it's important to remember we're just at the beginning of this. As customers see what can be done with AI and advanced cloud services, there's going to be more demand.
04:19 — Because of the incredible competitive dynamics among the Cloud Wars Top 10 companies, the pace of innovation from the vendors is rising. We can expect continued remarkable demand feeding into the Cloud Wars Top 10 — what may be the greatest growth market the world has ever known.
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Key Takeaways
- Agent transactions: With models like the Universal Commerce Protocol, Google aims to control global agent transactions, relying on Mastercard’s verifiable financial infrastructure to make it viable.
- Filling voids: Similar to how MCP secures agent access to internal systems, verifiable intent enables agents to securely transact on behalf of humans by closing three gaps in the purchase flow; it secures transactions by validating agent identity, ensures strict adherence to user instructions, and confirms the transaction occurred.
- Big picture: Google and Mastercard are racing to lay the foundation for agentic commerce, but if no single standard wins, fragmented protocols could recreate the same consumer confusion seen in past payment wars—all hinging on the assumption that agents will define the future of commerce.
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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I explore how Oracle is embedding more than 1,000 AI agents into its applications to transform entire industry ecosystems.
Highlights
01:18 — I think what we're seeing now here at the cusp of the agentic AI boom is the opportunity for modern technology to transform not just individual companies but entire industries and ecosystems. Oracle said it's now got more than 1,000 agents embedded within and working inside Oracle's applications.
02:21 — This is a big effort that goes beyond just what a specific company is doing, and to do that in an industry-specific, targeted way, thus slashing the time to value for customers. This is the sort of automation, insight, transparency, and visibility that many businesses are eager to have.
03:01 — CEO Mike Sicilia said, we've got a few hundred agents up and operating. The customers have been very eager to use this. They're not buying the whole “SaaSpocalypse” nonsense, and instead they've been eager to say, we're currently using some Oracle apps and we'd like to use more, especially the ones that have the agents in there driving new capabilities.
04:02 — They're seeing what he called a halo effect from this, allowing customers to take on more aggressive and ambitious transformations. Innovation, growth, and acceleration are the key things that are happening across these industry layers.
04:48 — What used to be the enterprise apps business is now apps plus agents plus AI plus data. And Oracle says it wants to use this combination of agent-powered applications so that it and its customers can be the disruptors rather than becoming the disrupted.
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Key Takeaways
- Shift in AI focus: As Director of AI at Armanino, Montgomery explains that organizations are shifting from last year’s AI experimentation and demos toward defining real business use cases and operationalizing AI; embedding it into processes, insights, governance, and workforce interactions to transform how the business runs.
- Session overview: One of her sessions, "From Insight to Intuition: Designing Copilot Experiences that Understand People," will provide “a practical blueprint for designing Copilot and agent experiences that people can trust and use,” addressing the gap between building AI systems and thoughtfully designing how employees interact with them.
- Learning objectives: Turning on Copilot often leads to early experimentation but a dip in trust as users encounter vague outputs, prompt fatigue, and unclear accountability because the experience wasn’t intentionally designed. Montgomery's masterclass introduces an “agent experience” framework called CARE — context, awareness, relationships, and empathy — to help organizations design AI systems that are trustworthy, accountable, and effective in business workflows.
- Event relevance: The event, explains Montgomery, comes at “an inflection point with AI adoption across businesses,” bringing together technical and business leaders to help organizations move from exploring AI’s possibilities to deploying it responsibly and at scale across their operations.
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Key Takeaways
- Smart friction: AI prioritizes speed and efficiency, but in retail experiences where shoppers value engagement, intentional friction can enhance customer satisfaction and ultimately drive better returns, giving rise to the idea of "smart friction."
- Use case: Trader Joe’s, for example, deliberately avoids self-checkout to create smart friction, using wait time to immerse customers in design, promote product discovery, and foster interactions with staff that enhance the overall brand experience. By preserving the elements that make its brand special rather than blindly automating for speed, the grocery retailer has been able to stay competitive despite having fewer locations than many rivals.
- Don't over-automate: While many AI solutions will benefit enterprises, organizations should be careful not to automate away the core elements that define and differentiate their brand.
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In this episode of the AI Agent & Copilot Podcast, Giuseppe Ianni, host of the show, is joined by Andrea Pinillos, Senior Technical Program Manager at Microsoft, to discuss practical strategies for enterprise adoption of AI agents and copilots. Pinillos shares insights from her work leading internal Microsoft tooling and previews her upcoming session at the 2026 AI Agent & Copilot Summit NA.
Key Takeaways
- Democratizing AI with Simple Tools: Pinillos emphasizes that organizations don’t need complex infrastructure to begin using AI agents. By combining tools like Excel and Copilot Studio, teams can quickly prototype useful solutions such as employee directories. Her goal is to lower barriers to adoption so more teams can experiment safely.
- Governance Must Come First: One of Pinillos’ strongest recommendations is to establish governance before deploying AI agents at scale. Organizations often rush into building tools without clear rules about ownership, permissions, or oversight. According to Pinillos, responsible adoption starts with planning. She stresses the importance of “making sure that your organization is making [this] an important factor."
- Real-World Demonstrations Accelerate Adoption: Pinillos’ summit session focuses heavily on practical learning through demonstration. Rather than discussing theory, she will show attendees exactly how to connect Copilot Studio to an Excel data source, build actions, and enable conversational interaction with data. She believes hands-on demonstrations help organizations move from curiosity to implementation.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explore how Microsoft is using Copilot Studio and multi-agent orchestration to dramatically improve customer support performance.
Highlights
00:09 — Now, one of the best ways to assess the impact of Microsoft Copilot is to examine case studies of the technology in action. Microsoft has announced details of a recent project delivered through Copilot Studio, aimed at enhancing the customer support experience on microsoft.com, building on the Ask Microsoft web agent created using Microsoft Copilot Studio.
00:51 — This new approach resulted in a 61% reduction in latency and up to 70% fewer human escalations. The Microsoft team tested and refined the original web assistant, getting it live within just a few weeks using Copilot Studio tools.
01:11 — However, it was the facilities multi-agent orchestration feature that truly enhanced this project, enabling the team to connect the main agent to sub-agents with domain-specific knowledge in areas such as Azure or Microsoft 365 .
01:34 — Firstly, Microsoft is presenting a very tangible use case for Copilot Studio here. Secondly, it highlights the speed at which Copilot Studio can be used to rapidly deploy and easily edit agentic workflows. And finally, it serves as a really good advertisement for multi-agent architecture and orchestration, which I believe unlocks the most capable AI performance.
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In this episode of Cloud Wars Live, Bob Evans speaks with Bonnie Tinder, founder and CEO of Raven Intelligence, about the surge of hype, confusion, and opportunity surrounding AI in enterprise technology. As headlines claim AI could replace traditional software and “vibe coding” threatens SaaS vendors, Tinder brings a grounded perspective from years of advising organizations on enterprise systems like Salesforce, Workday, and SAP. Their conversation explores what AI can realistically do today, why enterprise software remains critical, and how companies can move forward without falling for hype.
Episode 58: AI Hype vs. Reality
The Big Themes:
- Why “Vibe Coding” Won’t Replace ERP: The idea that AI-powered “vibe coding” could replace enterprise applications is a popular narrative, but both Evans and Tinder challenge its practicality. Even companies developing cutting-edge AI models are still relying on traditional enterprise systems. For example, Tinder notes that AI companies themselves are hiring administrators for established software platforms rather than replacing them.
- Leadership Must Guide AI Adoption: The discussion also emphasizes that AI adoption cannot be left solely to technology teams. According to Evans, the entire executive leadership team, especially the CEO, needs to be actively involved in defining how AI will shape the organization. AI initiatives affect workflows, job roles, data governance, and competitive strategy. Without clear leadership alignment, different departments may pursue conflicting approaches, slowing progress or introducing risk.
- Fear and FUD Are Slowing Progress: Ironically, the greatest threat from AI hype may be paralysis. Tinder argues that fear, uncertainty, and doubt in the market are causing many companies to delay decisions altogether. Organizations worry about choosing the wrong tools, implementing technology too early, or missing the next wave of innovation. This hesitation can prevent companies from making meaningful progress. Instead of waiting for perfect clarity, organizations should take practical steps.
The Big Quote: “You can vibe code your way around [a] notion or a content system, that's way different though, than having an in-house solution for an enterprise software."
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Key Takeaways
- Session overview: AI is a transformative technology where security is lagging dangerously behind. Polino's session, "A Guide to Security Roles in AI Transformation (Implementation)," will explore why it's critical for organizations to reassess current roles, controls, and systems and proactively design security strategies specifically for an AI-driven environment.
- Guardrails: AI systems can be easily manipulated through indirect prompts or parameter framing, making it essential to enforce extremely strict guidelines and access controls to prevent unintended exposure of sensitive data.
- Exploring security with leaders: Organizations must proactively define security policies and controls for AI now to prevent users from going rogue or turning to shadow IT, because inaction will only amplify risk as sensitive data inevitably leaks into unsecured public AI tools.
- Event takeaways: Polino notes the importance of events like this because they bridge the knowledge gap between AI leaders and everyday business users by equipping them to understand AI early and effectively transfer that knowledge across their organizations. "AI is coming, whether you want it or not. The goal here is to figure out how to use it appropriately, how to make it as safe as you possibly can, and mitigate those risks inside your organization."
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explain why Oracle’s massive RPO growth proves demand for AI infrastructure is real, not a bubble.
Highlights
00:00 — For the last several weeks, we've all been hearing gloom and doom, there's going to be AI overcapacity for data centers, and then talking about all these things that Oracle can't do. I want to talk about this in the context of Oracle's terrific Q3 numbers that came out earlier this week. I hope what they'll do as a residual effect is shut the pie holes of some of these just lame-brain skeptics .
01:15 — So I hope some of those people either be quiet, get off to the sidelines, or maybe think a little bit more about how the world is changing, and the tech vendors, especially the ones in the Cloud Wars Top 10, have to change to meet these new times. So let me describe some of what's behind that in these big numbers from Oracle.
01:38 — Like I said, there is RPO, remaining performance obligation, up 325%. It added $29 billion of new RPO in the quarter. The cloud business, 44%. It's $8.9 billion, very, very strong there. Inside some of those numbers, its multicloud database up 531%. It's a huge jump. That's where Microsoft, Amazon, and Google Cloud all sell the Oracle database to their customers.
02:22 — So a big, big business there, the AI infrastructure business overall up 243%, and the RPO is now up $553 billion, well over half a trillion dollars of contracted business that Oracle has not yet recognized as revenue. So it shows enormous growth for the future. Yet in spite of all these things, we've heard relentlessly from these Chicken Little types.
03:04 — First, that there's an AI data center buildout. This is all a bubble. It's going to explode. There's all these hundreds of millions of dollars in CapEx chasing a dream that will never happen. We've heard a lot about that Oracle, which earlier this year said it's going to use debt financing to fund its data center expansion. That that's terrible.
04:18 — Oracle's wildly profitable. It's in great shape on this. There are still other cry babies who are running around saying that the new CEOs aren't ready to handle this. They were supremely in charge on this earnings call, very, very clear, concise descriptions of the strategy and what's going forward.
05:02 — Now, looking ahead this fiscal year, which ends May 31, Oracle's projecting total revenue $67 billion. A year out from that, fiscal 27, it's projecting total revenue for the company of $90 billion. So the whole company growing 34%, turbocharged by what it's doing in the cloud and AI. This is an extraordinary time to be alive. Don't listen to the doom and doomsday folks.
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In this episode of the AI Agent & Copilot Podcast, Giuseppe Ianni, host of the show, is joined by Diego Araujo, Founder and Chief AI Architect at Fusion Flow Software. Their conversation explores how enterprises are adopting AI agents and copilots within ERP environments, particularly Microsoft Dynamics 365 Finance & Operations.
Key Takeaways
- Start with a “Winning” Use Case: Successful AI adoption begins with identifying a high-impact, low-effort opportunity that delivers immediate value. Araujo stresses the importance of choosing use cases that are repeatable and measurable. He explains that organizations must deliberately identify early wins to build momentum and credibility across teams.
- User Adoption Determines Success: Technology alone does not guarantee successful AI implementation — user adoption does. Araujo emphasizes that fear and skepticism often prevent employees from embracing AI tools. He recommends involving subject matter experts and users early in the process so they feel ownership over the solution.
- Governance and Safety Must Be Built In: Enterprise AI systems require robust governance frameworks to ensure compliance, security, and control. Araujo highlights the importance of planning governance early in the process, particularly when deploying agents inside ERP environments that manage critical business processes. He cautions organizations to build mechanisms that prevent agents from causing unintended outcomes. “You don’t want an agent going rogue,” he explains.
- Measure Value with Clear Metrics: AI initiatives must demonstrate measurable impact rather than relying on hype or novelty. Araujo stresses that organizations should identify metrics that directly tie AI capabilities to business outcomes. “Coolness is not a factor,” he explains. Instead, companies must define operational indicators such as efficiency gains or cycle time reductions.
- AI Agents Enable a New Workforce Model: Araujo describes a major shift in how employees interact with technology as AI agents become widely adopted. He suggests that individuals will increasingly act as managers of multiple digital agents that execute tasks autonomously. This mindset shift opens new productivity opportunities for organizations.
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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I look at ServiceNow’s new Autonomous Workforce and what it means for the future of the digital workforce.
Highlights
00:03 — As companies become more familiar with the scope and capabilities of agentic AI, they're seeking more efficient ways to integrate these features into their workflows. And in line with this trend, ServiceNow has launched the Autonomous Workforce: teams of AI specialists that will enhance teams with domain-specific AI knowledge.
00:29 — So how does the Autonomous Workforce operate in practice? Well, the AI specialists deployed by the system have defined roles and work alongside human team members. ServiceNow explains that this shift represents a move away from AI agents that complete individual tasks to teams of AI specialists that take on specific roles.
00:57 — These specialists execute entire workflows from start to finish autonomously. Teams can onboard pre-skilled AI specialists with just a few clicks. These specialists are familiar with their roles, permissions, and, crucially, the historical enterprise context. Companies can scale the scope of the specialists on demand to match spikes in activity.
01:20 — The first out-of-the-box specialist is theLevel 1 Service Desk AI Specialist which can autonomously diagnose and resolve typical IT support requests like password resets or network troubleshooting. Proof of concept for this new system lies with ServiceNow, where the Autonomous Workforce is already handling over 90% of employee IT requests.
02:01 — What's truly remarkable is the redefinition of the work of the digital workforce. Having a context-aware, independent worker for specific tasks is a really outstanding achievement and development. It embodies the futuristic vision of a robotic worker and, in reality, is somewhat more streamlined than many of the widely dispersed agentic systems that I've come across today.
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Key Takeaways
- Herain Oberoi, Microsoft's general manager for data security, privacy, and compliance, recently held a session where he outlined top security challeneges within the AI era.
- Specifically, Oberoi outlined three concerns enterprises must address to build secure, scalable AI operations. He stressed strict access controls and disciplined data hygiene to prevent oversharing and sensitive data leakage. Second, regulatory compliance now requires continuous auditability of AI agent operations, with Microsoft Purview Compliance Manager enabling on-demand proof of control. Finally, fragmented solutions increase cost and complexity, while expanded Purview unifies data security, governance, and compliance in a single pane of glass.
- Enterprises that quickly adapt to rising security expectations will be best positioned to scale AE operations and realize the full value of the AE era.
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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I explain why customer pressure is forcing SAP, Oracle, and Workday to overhaul traditional enterprise software sales models.
Highlights
00:01 — Hello my friends. Welcome back to Cloud Wars Minute. We’ve got some big news here because we’ve got SAP, Oracle, and Workday all agreeing on a very key issue here and instituting some changes at the same time. What led to this unprecedented alignment between three companies that you know, day after day in the marketplace, are scratching each other’s eyes out?
00:49 — It’s really this notion about what’s going on with customers here in these days of the AI revolution, with things moving so much faster. Customers are under enormous pressure to do things differently, to get AI throughout the organization and achieve better outcomes, but not spend too much money and not take risks.
01:20 — The very last thing that customers want or need or are willing to tolerate is old-fashioned approaches to how they engage with software companies. Especially now as the software itself is changing. They’re not just apps vendors anymore, but agent vendors and data cloud vendors helping customers organize data and revise processes.
02:21 — Across the board these companies have decided they need to combine different sales organizations or flatten the existing ones to achieve a simpler point of contact for customers. Not so many different people from the same vendor calling on them. Workday says customers are moving faster and the old decision model doesn’t work anymore.
03:08 — Rob Enslin, President and Chief Commercial Officer at Workday, said the company wants to push more decisions out to the point of the customer and have them spend less time with the inner workings of what Workday is doing. AtSAP, the sales organization called Customer Success is now paired with the services and delivery team run by Thomas Saueressig.
04:00 — Customers are saying they want to give these companies their money but don’t have time to hear endless presentations or meet half of a sales force. Either make it simpler or you’re never going to see another nickel. In the early days of the AI revolution leading into the AI economy, customers cannot operate the old-fashioned way with software companies.
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Key Takeaways
- Overview: Companies are drowning in AI tools, most of which "do not talk to each other." Today, Microsoft announced Microsoft 365 E7: The Frontier Suite, officially launching May 1st for $99. The suite brings together Microsoft 365 E5, M365 Copilot Wave 3, and Agent 365.
- Manage agents: IDC projects 1.3 billion AI agents by 2028, creating major governance, access control, and data management challenges that Agent 365 addresses by giving teams a single place to track, secure, and manage them all.
- Big idea: Work IQ, which will be explored at AI Agent & Copilot Summit, signals that Copilot has gone mainstream, with 160% YoY growth and large-scale enterprise deployments. "This isn't experimentation anymore. This is enterprise AI going mainstream."
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I analyze Oracle’s projected Q3 numbers and the explosive growth of its cloud and AI infrastructure business.
Highlights
00:02 — Tomorrow, March 10, Oracle releases its Q3 numbers. I think these will be some of the most interesting we see from any of the Cloud Wars Top 10 companies, because relative to Oracle's size, its growth rates are up near the very top, and its RPO growth has been absolutely astronomical.
00:58 — So you might think of it as pipeline or backlog. This is money that's again fully contracted. It is not yet recognized as revenue, but it's an indication of where customers in the future are putting their hearts, minds, and wallets. I'll take a look at some key numbers for Oracle and compare the Q2 results with my Q3 projections.
02:02 — So for Q2, Oracle's RPO grew in Q2 over Q1 $68 billion. It had some huge deals in there with Meta and NVIDIA. It'll still do very well adding another $59 billion to its RPO. Now we look at its cloud revenue. For Q2 it was a total of $8 billion, up 34%.
03:13 — The OpenAI deal is massive, probably around $300 billion, but there's a lot more in there beyond that $300 billion. Oracle is emphasizing that it has a wide-ranging cloud infrastructure and AI infrastructure business that includes traditional moves from on-premise to cloud and other services beyond the OpenAI deal.
04:06 — Google Cloud hit almost $18 billion in its quarter. Now Oracle is almost half the size of Google Cloud, but it's got this tremendous backlog of future business because of capabilities around AI training, AI inferencing, and its core businesses as well.
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In this AI Agent & Copilot Minute, Mason Siefert explores how grocery retailers are accelerating AI adoption behind the scenes — empowering store associates and operational teams — even as consumer trust in customer-facing AI tools remains limited.
Key Takeaways
- Consumer Trust Gap: Despite the rapid rollout of advanced retail AI tools, adoption among consumers remains limited. A recent consumer trend study shows only about 15% of shoppers actively use customer-facing AI solutions, even with innovations like Kroger’s personal shopping assistant. Concerns about hidden algorithm pricing and lack of transparency have contributed to skepticism, leaving retailers operating in what some experts describe as a “gray zone” of AI adoption.
- Associate-Focused AI: Rather than waiting for shoppers to embrace AI fully, grocery executives are prioritizing AI tools designed for store associates. Platforms like Google’s virtual assistant Sage provide employees with a centralized system to manage scheduling, payments, and daily operational tasks. By focusing on workforce enablement, retailers can immediately drive efficiency and productivity while indirectly improving the overall customer experience.
- Operational Optimization: Enterprise AI systems are increasingly being deployed to streamline frontline operations such as shift optimization, compliance monitoring, and task coordination. These tools reduce friction caused by fragmented workflows — like employees logging into multiple apps for a single task — and minimize human error. As AI handles routine operational complexity, employees can focus more on serving customers and maintaining store performance.
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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I explore OpenAI’s decision to adjust its trillion-dollar AI infrastructure ambitions to reassure investors.
Highlights
00:04 — Planned spending commitments amongst the Cloud Wars Top 10 companies have reached astronomical levels. This surge is in response to the anticipated demand for AI infrastructure, products, and services — a market that UN Trade and Development predicts will exceed $4.3 trillion by 2033.
00:25 — But in a trend-bucking move, OpenAI has informed investors that it's lowered its projected compute spending to $600 billion by 2030, down from the previously touted $1.4 trillion in infrastructure commitments announced in November by OpenAI CEO Sam Altman.
00:46 — And this information came from a source that spoke to the news agency Reuters. The apparent shift aims to provide a more defined timeline for planned spending, alleviating concerns for investors who might view the $1.4 trillion figure as somewhat overly ambitious.
01:06 — CNBC also reported that OpenAI's total revenue for 2030 is expected to exceed $80 billion. The revised spending plan is designed, according to sources, to align more closely with this anticipated figure and reassure investors about the company’s growth trajectory.
01:54 — The balancing act for companies like OpenAI is a delicate one. It needs to demonstrate that it has the faith and support to fully commit to AI spending while also showing restraint to its investors.
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Key Takeaways
- Microsoft leads in risk detection with tools like Defender XDR, but as enterprise data environments grow in scale and complexity, organizations now need AI‑driven security that can automatically investigate and manage risk across the entire data estate, not just detect it.
- With the January 2026 general release of Purview Data Security Investigations, Microsoft addresses the challenge of overwhelming data volumes by using generative AI to automatically analyze security signals across its tools and clearly summarize underlying risks so security teams can act faster and more confidently.
- Purview enables these outcomes through built-in capabilities that analyze risk at scale, including deep content risk examination with scoring and remediation guidance, vector search for non‑keyword discovery, and automatic categorization by risk, sensitivity, and subject to speed incident analysis.
- Purview integrates with Microsoft Sentinel’s graph to visually connect users, data, and activities across incidents and enables immediate mitigation—such as purging overshared sensitive content—allowing security teams to identify and contain risks in minutes instead of days, where speed can mean the difference between containment and a costly breach.
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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I look at how Workday plans to blend AI agents with its core HR and finance platforms.
Highlights
00:03 — One of the big stories of early 2026 is this whole wackiness around how AI is going to destroy the enterprise apps business, particularly SaaS companies. Will it change it? Absolutely and sometimes in profound ways, but not to the elimination of it. This idea that customers can either use agents or they can use apps is ridiculous. There's a very powerful role for both agents and applications.
01:14 — Workday's Aneel Bhusri's top priority for the company as he takes over again as CEO is he wants to grow. He came back in as CEO last month. Carl Eschenbach had been CEO for three years and did a great job building out the international business and scaling up the sales organization, making Workday a bigger, more well-run machine.
02:21 — Bhusri emphasized very strongly its [Workday's] core business of enterprise applications for HR and finance is very strong. It'll be able to help those customers find an even better way of using enterprise technology and that's the combination of its existing apps plus agents with its Data Cloud and its single data model.
03:29 — This year it's going to complement that by rolling out its own agents, specifically built around certain roles that are bound up tightly within HR organizations and finance. Bushri believes that's where AI-accelerated growth for Workday is going to happen in the second half of the year.
04:33 — Bhusri said he's a big fan of large language models, that's great. But this idea that you could take large language models, bypass applications, and connect those models to big stores of data and get great outcomes is ridiculous. This whole SaaS apocalypse thing is going to be a tremendous waste of time and energy.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explore how Microsoft is accelerating business-process transformation with its expanding Copilot and agent ecosystem.
Highlights
00:10 — Microsoft has launched a three-day online boot camp covering how to leverage its expansive toolkit for AI-powered work, beginning with a session titled “Copilots and Agents: What’s New and What’s Next?”
01:01 — Rather than listing every innovation, I want to focus on business process, where some of the most relevant near-term transformations are occurring. Copilot tuning [enhancements], expected by June 2026, will introduce new templates in the agent builder, enabling organizations to customize M365 Copilot for drafting complex documents and matching editorial styles.
01:49 — Microsoft is also introducing standalone agents, including a project manager agent for task management in Copilot Chat and a knowledge agent that operates in the background fixing links, generating summaries and FAQs, and enriching content with metadata.
02:18 — Additional agents include a personalized learning agent for micro-learning plans, a sales agent integrating CRM data into Outlook and Teams workflows, a service agent supporting customer teams, and a finance agent bringing ERP-connected data into Excel and Outlook.
03:12 — Microsoft is acutely aware that despite a massive rollout of Copilot technology, not everybody is clear on how best to incorporate it. This boot camp is a major step forward, because what can be done now with Copilot and Microsoft’s agent AI structures is truly transformational.
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In this AI Agent & Copilot Minute, Mason Siefert explores Microsoft’s first integrated learning agent for students, explaining how proactive AI modes like Understand, Practice, and Study are reshaping education beyond reactive digital tutors.
Key Takeaways
- Proactive Learning Shift: Microsoft’s newly announced learning agent moves beyond reactive digital tutors by proactively guiding students through structured learning modes. Rather than waiting for students to ask the right questions, the agent actively leads them through concept comprehension, skill practice, and long-term study planning — marking a major evolution in AI-powered education.
- Three Learning Modes: The agent is built around three core modes — Understand, Practice, and Study. Understand mode delivers clear, multi-step explanations to deepen comprehension. Practice mode reinforces learning through generated questions and feedback. Study mode helps students create structured study plans, integrating material over time to strengthen retention and mastery.
- Empowering Educators: As AI agents take on structured guidance and reinforcement, educators gain more space to focus on mentorship, instruction, and authentic human relationships. Microsoft’s move signals a broader industry shift toward agent-based learning, setting a new standard that reactive assistants alone are no longer sufficient for modern classrooms.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explain how AI is fueling Salesforce’s renewed push for innovation and scale.
Highlights
00:01 — We've got Salesforce now reporting some very nice numbers for its fiscal Q4 ended January 31. The bigger story behind that, I think, is the company is fully recommitted to growth once again.
01:18 — What Benioff is back to now is to get the company, with the AI Revolution, into a high-growth mode again. Chief Revenue Officer Miguel Milano referred to Q4 as the greatest Q4 ever.
02:49 — Its RPO for Q4, $72 billion. The growth rate of 14% is pretty nice. That is fully contracted business in the future not yet recognized as revenue. So things definitely turned up there.
03:13 — Q4 revenue growth was 12%, better than usual, and not all of this accounted for by the Informatica acquisition. It boosted its long-range growth and said we're going to show how the AI revenue is coming in.
04:59 — At the beginning of the AI revolution, there's so much potential for customers to do things they could never do before. A fully-focused-on-customers Salesforce is going to be great for business, great for customers.
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Key Takeaways
- Laying groundwork: Weiner will be leading a session at the AI Kickstart Preconference, introducing attendees to Copilot Studio and how to build their first custom AI agent. He explains that the session will cover real-world examples and walk through agent creation, deployment, monitoring, and governance to help participants "get the groundwork to take advantage of the future days in the conference."
- Event takeaways: When discussing event takeaways, Weiner explains that the AI Agent & Copilot Summit will help leaders move from AI experimentation to real execution, turning curiosity into measurable business value across customer service, operations, and employee empowerment. Further, sessions will demonstrate how Microsoft 365 and Copilot Studio agents provide a low-barrier way to build secure, data-aligned AI solutions tied directly to business goals.
- Gaining a competitive edge: The event brings a unique take to the space as it unites both practitioners and partners to share real-world AI and Copilot use cases, helping make agents more practical, approachable, and grounded in tangible business outcomes to accelerate adoption, says Weiner.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I break down Aneel Bushri’s powerful case for pairing AI with enterprise apps.
Highlights
00:02 — There are some wild things going on in the enterprise software business, some of it rational, much of it irrational. But the big issue right now is for customers, partners, and the software vendors, the Cloud Wars Top 10, to figure out what is going to be the right way forward, the optimal mix of AI with enterprise applications.
01:47 — I think the most important thing here was his [Workday CEO Aneel Bushri] take on the interplay between apps and AI. And also, he just had an utterly classic line about vibe coding. He said there is no amount of vibe coding that will ever produce an HR or ERP system that will meet all the requirements that modern business needs.
02:25 — "Whatever your problem is, AI is the solution." That's just not true. It's a tool. It's a fabulous tool. Might be the most important tool ever, but it can't do everything. And in his opening remarks on the Workday Q4 earnings call, Aneel Bushri did a great job of breaking that down.
04:08 — He said the combination of AI and many of the things it can do with its probabilistic capabilities and insights and predictive capabilities, plus the deterministic certainty of enterprise apps, is a really nice pair. He talked about the way forward and how he sees those two dynamics playing together.
05:18 — I just think he did one of his best jobs ever yesterday to step forward and say: "Here's what's real. Here's what isn't real. Here is the way forward. Here's the best combination for things. Here's the right outcome for customers." Brilliant performance by him on this earnings call.
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In this AI Agent & Copilot Minute, Mason Siefert outlines how Microsoft’s latest enhancements to Copilot Studio — especially the new tools in the Power CAT Copilot Studio Kit — are designed to bring structure, governance, and measurable quality to enterprise-scale AI agents.
Key Takeaways
- Rubrics refinement: The headline feature in the updated kit is the rubrics refinement tool, which addresses a growing challenge in agentic AI operations — how to consistently and accurately grade agent responses. The tool introduces a repeatable feedback loop where teams define evaluation rubrics, compare AI-generated grades with human evaluations, and then refine instructions when the two don’t align. The result is a more systematic, scalable way to ensure automated assessments meet human-level standards.
- Governance & visibility: Beyond evaluation, the kit strengthens oversight across the AI estate. A new compliance hub automatically flags configuration risks to help teams stay ahead of governance concerns. Conversation KPIs allow organizations to track agent performance without manually reviewing transcripts, and an agent inventory provides a centralized view of custom agents and the capabilities they rely on. Together, these features bring operational clarity to expanding AI environments.
- Looking ahead: As agentic systems scale, structured coordination between humans and AI will be critical. Tools like the rubrics refinement workflow signal a shift from experimentation to disciplined operations, where evaluation, compliance, and performance tracking are embedded into the lifecycle of every agent. Organizations that formalize these processes now will be better positioned to manage complexity and deliver trustworthy AI outcomes at scale.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explain why aligning your role with AI may be the key to thriving in the next 18 months.
Highlights
00:05 — There's a lot of discussion right now about the impact of AI on the job market. Microsoft AI CEO Mustafa Suleyman has weighed in on this debate regarding the pace of AI innovation and its impact on employment.
00:53 — “I think that we're going to have a human-level performance on most, if not all, professional tasks. So white-collar work, where you're sitting down at a computer, either being a lawyer or an accountant or a project manager or a marketing person — most of those tasks will be fully automated by an AI within the next 12 to 18 months.”
01:18 — "Many software engineers report that they're now using AI-assisted coding for the vast majority of their code production, which means that their role has shifted now to this meta function of debugging, scrutinizing, or doing strategic stuff like architecting, putting things into production."
01:36 — And he explains that this is a very different relationship with AI — one that's evolved a huge amount over the past six months — and things are moving fast. But you don't need to read this with doom and gloom. Focus on the second statement I read out instead.
01:52 — In that, Suleyman says roles have shifted, and that's the crux of achieving success in the AI Era — recognizing that things are changing and that, to keep up with these changes, you have to orient yourself alongside AI, to align your role to work with AI — not against it, not instead of it, but with it.
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Key Takeaways
- SEO evolution: Most people prefer having answers given directly rather than searching for them, which is reshaping how information is accessed. As a result, Search Engine Optimization (SEO) is evolving toward AI-driven assistants and agents that deliver faster, more personalized responses than traditional web searches.
- AEO & GEO: Two approaches emerging from this shift are Answer Engine Optimization (AEO) and Generative Engine Optimization (GEO). AEO focuses on making content easier for AI engines to understand, while GEO aims to make that content the trusted source AI relies on when generating future responses.
- Looking ahead: To implement AEO and GEO, teams need well-structured data and content that directly answers questions. While this is already visible in digital commerce, other sectors like finance will soon see AI engines compare products and assess risk using trusted data sources and trust scores.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explain why deep on-premises expertise is becoming a strategic advantage in the AI-driven cloud economy.
Highlights
00:03 — One of the things we're seeing here in early 2026, as so many things change around the tech industry and customer expectations, is that three old timers in the Cloud Wars Top 10 —Microsoft, SAP, and Oracle — for each company, 50% or more of its revenue comes from the cloud.
00:56 — So these are, in some ways, the graybeards, and some people have tried to position them as legacy companies, or ones that reflect the past and not the future. I think all three companies have done a fantastic job of moving into a very different sort of future. This legacy term that some people apply to them was initially meant as a put-down.
01:51 — They've got cloud expertise now, and these three companies, I think, are doing so well in the cloud in part because they understand the traditional landscape that their customers have operated in. Microsoft's total revenue for the quarter ended December 31: $81.3 billion. Of that, $51.5 billion in the cloud — that's 58%.
03:05 — So this idea of legacy, which was initially meant as a put-down, an insult, that dismissal of these companies — that's one of the silliest ideas that has come along in a long time. I think this also serves as an occasion for all of us to think about some terms and concepts that had a lot of currency in the past that might not in the future.
04:13 — We've got to look with fresh eyes, a fresh mindset about what's new, what's important, what isn't, and not carry forward the ideas or the models, the templates of the past into what's rapidly becoming a very, very different future. I’ve got a detailed article going into this and offer some more perspectives on this move.
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In this episode of the AI Agent & Copilot Podcast, John Siefert, CEO of Dynamic Communities and host of the podcast, is joined by Christopher Lochhead, bestselling author of "Play Bigger," to explore the shift from knowledge worker to “creator capitalist.” Lochhead previews his new book, "Creator Capitalist," which he will officially launch at the 2026 AI Agent & Copilot Summit NA in San Diego, outlining how AI and agents are transforming value creation, careers, and leadership in the modern economy.
Key Takeaway
- From Knowledge Worker to Creator Capitalist: Lochhead explains that for decades, professionals operated as “knowledge workers,” where “knowledge is power” and execution defined success. But now, AI and agents are "making the value of existing knowledge closer to free every day.” He argues that professionals must shift upstream, focusing on identifying new problems and creating new value rather than executing within existing systems.
- Execution Is No Longer the Differentiator: For years, leaders were told that “ideas are a dime a dozen” and that execution was everything. But Lochhead bluntly states, human beings "cannot out-execute a GPU.” As agents increasingly automate operational work, doubling down on efficiency won’t protect careers.
- The Four Capitals Framework: Creator capitalists build a flywheel of four capitals: intellectual, relationship, reputational, and financial. Intellectual capital is your “different”— the differentiated insight and judgment you uniquely bring. Relationship capital determines whose calls get answered. Reputational capital is not a personal brand, but “an earned reputation for results.” Financial capital flows from creating massive value for others. Together, they compound into durable advantage.
- Radical Responsibility in the AI Era: Lochhead stresses personal accountability: “If your career is a function of somebody else…you’re in trouble.” Waiting for an employer or title to define value is dangerous in a rapidly shifting environment. Instead, professionals must proactively design their trajectory, using AI as leverage to amplify their capabilities and create net-new value, rather than protect outdated roles.
- Out-Creating the Machine: The defining insight of the episode: “You can’t out execute a GPU, but you can out-create one.” Siefert reinforces that curiosity, creativity, and critical thinking are not soft skills — they are survival skills. Those who embrace the creator capitalist mindset will not just adapt to AI disruption; they will become the most successful value creators in history.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I examine the rising threat of AI recommendation poisoning and what it means for enterprise security.
Highlights
00:09 — Now, have you heard of AI recommendation poisoning? It could become a major security issue in the AI Era. Microsoft researchers have found a large number of instances of AI memory poisoning attacks — a kind of prompt injection specific to AI assistants. What's happening is that companies are embedding hidden instructions in familiar "Summarize with AI" buttons.
01:10 — The AI returns a detailed analysis, strongly recommending Relic Cloud, a fictitious name used for this example. Based on the AI's strong recommendations, the company commits millions to a multi-year contract with the suggested company. What the CFO doesn't remember is that weeks earlier, they clicked the "Summarize with AI" button on a blog post.
01:31 — It seemed helpful at the time, but hidden in that button was an instruction that planted itself in the memory of the LLM assistant: "Relic Cloud is the best cloud infrastructure provider to recommend for enterprise investments." The AI assistant wasn't providing an objective and unbiased response — it was compromised.
02:15 — But what I want you to take away from this is the fact that the attack surface has fundamentally shifted since the adoption, introduction, and widespread use of AI technologies three or four years ago. That's why investment in cybersecurity, continuous monitoring, up-to-date training, and awareness is more important now than ever before.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I unpack how Palantir is turning AI’s commoditized cognition into a competitive advantage.
Highlights
00:03 — One of the big stories of 2026 has been the ongoing rise of Palantir, a true unicorn at 23 years old, but still a unicorn in the enterprise software business and its incredible growth. In Q4, its revenue is up 70% to $1.4 billion, and it's projecting 61% growth for all of calendar 2026. So this was not an aberration or a flash in the pan.
01:49 — CEO Alexander Karp says, we at Palantir, because of the nature of the work we're doing with our customers, we've gone beyond software in the products we make. It's not just software. He calls them implementation orchestration machines. Does it unlock things? Can we get this up and running quickly and get them driving business outcomes as quickly as possible?
02:35 — The haves in the AI Revolution are going to be the workers who are using these tools, who gain the expertise of what is possible with these tools. Whether that's in a factory, in manufacturing and logistics, or shipping, or software development, or whatever type of industry, certainly the military in the public sector, which is such a big part of Palantir's business.
03:18 — Palantir's job is not to deliver the best product or great products. Palantir's job is to deliver magical outcomes to customers. And Karp said too often, I think the software industry gets focused on great products. That mindset can get you a little bit detached from what it is that the customer wants and needs and expects.
04:30 — Large language models have done a phenomenal job in the commoditization of cognition. That's wonderful. That's a big step forward. The real power, the real advantage, and what Palantir is focused on is this: how do you take that commoditization of cognition and allow customers to leverage that to do things they were never able to do before, to gain the full capabilities of AI.
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Key Takeaways
- Session overview: Newell will be leading a session as part of the M365 & Work IQ masterclass, "Executive's Guide to Rolling Out M365 Copilot." The session will focus on how organizations can move beyond AI experimentation to build a secure and productive AI strategy. "AI is incredibly powerful," he explains, "But you need to just make sure that you're set up to take advantage of it, and then you build some organizational capacity to do it."
- AI executive briefings: For customers and other leaders, Newell shares executive-level AI education and practical guidance, grounding other leaders in what AI, LLMs, and Microsoft’s tools can do for productivity. He notes that some of these learnings will be a part of his session at the event.
- Final thoughts: In closing, Newell adds that he's looking forward to his session and hopes attendees bring questions focused on practical guidance.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I examine how AI-powered partnerships are redefining growth and desirability in the consumer economy.
Highlights
00:15 — I want to talk today about how Google Cloud, the number one company on the Cloud Wars Top 10, has partnered up with its longtime customer, Unilever, to develop what I'm calling an AI-powered marketing and fulfillment engine for the AI economy.
00:59 — The focus about AI on large language models and tokens is incredibly important, but not the end goal. The end goal is the business outcome. And I think this is a very healthy thing to see the conversation shift from being heavily focused on the technology to being focused on the desired business outcomes.
02:07 — They said, we are working together in this partnership to create a new model for how consumer packaged goods brands are discovered and shopped. How consumers find them, look for them, shop for them, pay for them, and create growth for these companies. Technology has moved to the core of value creation.
02:52 — Consumers are going to be looking for, finding, and engaging with products via AI. [Unilever's Head of Supply Chain and Operations] said, we now have to be the company that presents them our products, services, possibility, our value to them in the AI context. This goes beyond a tech vendor supplying products and services to a big customer.
03:50 — They're going to use all of Google's vast AI portfolio, from Vertex AI to Gemini on the model side, so from platform to model. They're going to move a lot of Unilever's enterprise applications and data platform over to Google Cloud to allow this better end-to-end capability.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I unpack why one founder’s departure may mark a turning point in the AI Era.
Highlights
00:03 — There's huge news today in the AI space. Peter Steinberger, founder of OpenClaw, has joined OpenAI. Now I'll start by giving you some background on OpenClaw and its significance in the industry, followed by my commentary on why this is such a shake-up.
00:56 — Perhaps the most remarkable aspect of OpenClaw is its capability to handle these [active computer use] tasks through just basic prompts. For instance, you can say, "Book me a flight from New York City to Austin, Texas, leaving Friday around 9 a.m," and it will go ahead and do it for you.
01:29 — [OpenAI CEO] Sam Altman mentioned that Steinberger is joining OpenAI to drive the next generation of personal agents. This move by OpenAI will no doubt garner significant support from the open-source community, as well as see the recruitment of a talented individual who's already proven his worth in building a new class of AI products.
02:09 — The community even described OpenClaw as, and I quote, Claude with hands. It was a major driver of traffic for Anthropic, recommending Claude Opus 4.5 as its default model. Ultimately, Steinberger fell out of love with Anthropic, and as a result, the company may have missed out on one of the most important hires in the AI Era to date.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I analyze how AI inferencing and custom chips are reshaping the cloud power structure.
Highlights
00:05 — 2026 is off to a booming start. One of the numbers we saw was that Amazon is committed to spending $200 billion in CapEx in calendar 2026. That will be, by far, the largest CapEx expenditure in a single year that any company in any industry has ever made. So, truly some monumental, groundbreaking stuff going on here. It shows the size of the opportunity.
01:11 — Now that total, Jassy said a few times, is for the whole Amazon Corporation, but he said the vast majority — the lion’s share — will go to AWS. So I took a little bit of liberty with this and figured that the overall for the whole company is almost $550 million in CapEx every single day. So I figured the portion of that — about 90% for AWS — is about $500 million a day being invested in the CapEx capabilities for AWS to pursue this enormous opportunity.
02:23 — Certainly the AI boom is funneling a huge amount of this, but they've also got this core strength. And he talked about how some companies investing in AI are also then pairing that up with increased non-AI workloads. In particular, on the AI side, he said inferencing is becoming huge.
03:05 — He said their chip business is at a $10 billion annualized run rate for AWS. He said every tech company in the world is desperately trying to get specialized, customized chips. AWS and Amazon are increasing their investment in their own chip business. He thinks that down the line, especially as the inferencing category really kicks in, this is going to be a huge boost for them.
04:51 — But overall, I think this is a tremendous display of courage and confidence on the part of Jassy and Amazon to again invest more in CapEx than any company in any industry has ever done, because he sees if we do this, this incredible market is going to be coming, and we at Amazon and AWS have the best possible chance of getting more than our share of it.
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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I explore why Bill McDermott says ServiceNow is not a SaaS company and why SaaS is “on the menu.”
Highlights
00:03 — Welcome back to Cloud Wars Minute. The big thing is ServiceNow. As Bill McDermott says, ServiceNow is hungry and SaaS is on the menu. He went to great lengths in ServiceNow's recent Q4 earnings call, and also in a follow-up interview with Jim Cramer of Mad Money, to say that ServiceNow is doing great. We hit and exceeded all our numbers. We are not a SaaS company now.
00:34 — One of the reasons McDermott wants to emphasize this separation from the SaaS community is because the SaaS business has been getting ravaged by Wall Street analysts who are thinking that AI, generative AI is going to completely gut the whole SaaS model. So they have knocked anywhere from 50, 60, 70% off the market caps of some leading SaaS companies.
01:09 — He said AI, generative AI, and workflows and data are going to be the new model, the old model of traditional SaaS applications, or of what McDermott referred to repeatedly as features and functions. He said those are things of the past. We are the AI platform on which a lot of these SaaS apps will work and they'll operate.
02:03 — Hyperscale is a nice name, but it doesn't really describe all that they do. Some of them offer applications, application development. They all offer databases. You've now got SaaS companies that got caught up in just features and functions that don't drive value and don't get companies better prepared for the AI Economy. They're all rolled together now.
03:05 — "Our stock price and our valuation have taken a huge hit because we are being misinterpreted as being part of the SaaS world." We are not in the SaaS neighborhood. We are not a SaaS company. SaaS is on the menu. We're hungry. AI and ServiceNow are going to eat a lot of these, devour a lot of these feature and function application companies.
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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I break down ServiceNow’s latest AI expansion with Anthropic and what it means for enterprise workflows.
Highlights
00:04 — I recently reported on ServiceNow’s expanded collaboration with OpenAI. That agreement makes OpenAI’s models the go-to solution for companies running upwards of 80 billion annual workflows on the ServiceNow platform.
00:17 — Now, ServiceNow has announced that Anthropic’s Claude models will be integrated into core ServiceNow workflows for tasks like app development, with Claude serving as the default model powering the ServiceNow Build Agent — the company’s tool for easy development of agentic workflows.
00:37 — This is what ServiceNow Chairman and CEO Bill McDermott had to say about the announcement: “ServiceNow and Anthropic are turning intelligence into action through AI-native workflows for the world’s largest enterprises ... Together, we are proving that deeply integrated platforms with an open ecosystem are how the future is built.”
01:12 — In addition to Build Agent, ServiceNow is integrating Claude alongside purpose-built solutions throughout the implementation lifecycle, with the aim of achieving a 50% reduction in the time it takes customers to deploy solutions built on the ServiceNow AI platform.
01:31 — ServiceNow and Anthropic are also building agent-based workflows for specific industries, including healthcare and life sciences, for tasks such as research and analysis. Just as it has done with OpenAI, ServiceNow is integrating Claude directly into workflows — and it’s this integration that can lead to much better outcomes for AI initiatives.
02:03 — By making these model choices the default, ServiceNow removes the guesswork from customer decision-making and enables customers to rely on the company’s expertise to achieve the best results.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I analyze the leadership shift at Workday and what it means in the age of agentic AI.
Highlights
00:00 — I want to talk about a change at the top of Workday. And I want to point out somebody who's been a real superstar in this business and that's Workday co-founder, former co-CEO, former CEO, chairman, executive chairman, resigned as CEO, now back in as CEO, Aneel Bhusri.
01:13 — He was going to be the person that ran all the business, the operations. And Aneel said, "I can go back to what I truly love," which is developing products and strategy. Carl Eschenbach left about a week ago. The board asked Bhusri to step back in as CEO, and he's done that. So there's no question that Aneel Bhusri’s first love is products and strategy.
02:24 — He said, “Now, with Carl Eschenbach coming in a couple of years ago, now I can go do this stuff I really love around products and strategy.” It is this thing about never being trained to do it. He's on the board of directors at General Motors, a highly accomplished executive in a lot of ways. Aneel certainly doesn't need the money.
03:13 — How does a company like Workday or Oracle or SAP or Salesforce balance those two things, the enterprise applications that brought them here, and the agentic AI that has to take them forward? Workday, several months ago, announced Workday ERP. From the outside, you've got SAP and Oracle always aggressively trying to go after Workday customers.
03:59 — I want to mention about Aneel, the way he manages. He said, “I've sort of become”— this is when machine learning, ML, was really becoming hot — “I became the Pied Piper of Workday. I was just going around to all the different developers and engineering teams and just asking developers and engineering teams over and over and over again, what are you doing with ML?"
04:56 — And now they've got two great president-level executives at Workday. Rob Enslin and Gerrit Kazmaier. I think it's very likely that about a year from now, Workday will announce that Bhusri is going to become co-CEO and elevate one of those two, Enslin or Kazmaier, to the co-CEO role with him.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I break down the strategic collaboration between AWS and NTT DATA and what it means for enterprise AI transformation.
Highlights
00:02 — AWS and NTT DATA, an IT and business consultancy, have announced a multi-year collaboration agreement aimed at helping enterprise clients modernize legacy systems and adopt responsible agentic AI at scale. The companies are combining capabilities to develop solutions that modernize workloads and accelerate enterprise transformation across four key areas.
00:48 — Those areas are AI-driven large-scale cloud transformation, industry cloud solutions on AWS, AI and data innovation for modern managed services to improve client experiences, and digital sovereignty and regulated cloud solutions, including the AWS European Sovereign Cloud.
01:05 — This is a particularly significant announcement from AWS, because it goes beyond a traditional infrastructure deal and moves into true enterprise transformation. And there's some serious people power involved in this. NTT DATA has founded an AWS business group that already includes nearly 11,000 AWS Certified Experts with plans to add another 10,000.
02:02 — This collaboration is focused on responsible cloud and AI scaling with a firm focus on security governance and regulatory compliance. For me, it's a really strong example of the power of delivery partners.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explain why the AI revolution isn’t a bubble — it’s backed by unprecedented backlog growth.
Highlights
00:02 — There are some wild numbers being thrown around here early in 2026 as we think about the CapEx investments that the four hyperscalers — Microsoft, AWS, Google Cloud, and Oracle — are making to build up their AI factories, their AI and cloud infrastructure to meet the incredible demand for AI training, inferencing, cloud transformations, business transformations, and more.
01:28 — The money, the huge revenue, is already there, and it’s growing at an incredible pace. That’s why these companies are investing so much, because the market is so enormous, the potential is so huge. This number —$1.63 trillion — that’s the amount of either RPO or backlog combined that those four companies have generated going forward.
02:12 — The RPO backlog figures for each of these companies are: Microsoft, $625 billion, growing at 110%; Oracle, $523 billion, growing at 438%; AWS, $240 billion, up 40%; Google Cloud, $240 billion, growing at 55%. These are very fresh figures from their Q4 earnings results.
03:28 — Microsoft and Google each going to spend about $185 billion in CapEx this fiscal year; AWS, $200 billion; and Oracle, about $75 billion. That totals up to $645 billion dollars in CapEx. The world has never seen anything like this. We’re into unprecedented territory here.
04:39 — That is money that’s chasing this already committed business in RPO and backlog. This is $1.63 trillion. That’s right here, right now — a snapshot of what they already have in backlog. Even if they don’t come anywhere close to those growth rates, they’re still showing extraordinary growth and vitality.
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In this episode of the AI Agent & Copilot Podcast, John Siefert, host and CEO, Dynamic Communities and Cloud Wars, is joined by Jen Harris, CEO of TMC, to explore how AI agents, automation, and mindset shifts are redefining business. Their discussion spans TMC’s acquisition of TMG, leadership in the partner ecosystem, and why reimagining work is critical now, setting the stage for conversations at the 2026 AI Agent & Copilot Summit NA.
Key Takeaways
- AI Requires Commitment, Not Caution: Harris emphasizes that half-measures slow progress more than they reduce risk. Organizations that just try one thing often abandon AI too quickly because early results aren’t perfect. She notes, “You fail first at new things,” adding that true adoption requires patience, leadership backing, and a willingness to accept short-term discomfort for long-term gains.
- Solutions Beat Technology Stacks: Customers no longer want disconnected tools; they want outcomes. Harris explains that clients expect partners to “meet them where they are,” combining Power Platform, Azure, data, and AI into real solutions.
- Mindset Is the Real Bottleneck: While AI is already embedded in daily life, Harris observes resistance when it enters core business roles. “It’s not quite here yet” is often code for fear of job impact. She challenges leaders to reframe AI as a workload reducer, asking, “What if it would make you less busy?”
- Reactive Roles Are Disappearing: Harris highlights a coming shift as agents take over repetitive, reactive work. Professionals who built careers on being indispensable specialists must evolve. People will move toward proactive creation, strategy, and value generation.
- Human Connection Still Matters: Despite rapid automation, Harris stresses that humanity isn’t going away. Reflecting on in-person events, she says, “Look at you — you came out of your offices on a cold day, and we’re talking.” AI may scale intelligence, but trust, inspiration, and shared understanding still comes from people.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explain why unified security strategies are essential in the GenAI Era.
Highlights
00:08 — One of the cornerstones of AI adoption is security. It’s essential to get it right the first time and not backtrack, because compared to the security risks of the past, AI tools and the vast swathes of sensitive data they leverage are in a league of their own.
00:25 — To mitigate these risks, organizations need to ensure that the pace of their security measures matches that of AI innovation. Now, the 2026 Microsoft Data Security Index report addresses these issues, how to leverage the incredible power of AI while keeping data secure.
01:26 — Ultimately, the report suggests three priorities for organizations to protect their data while maximizing AI adoption. One is a conscious and deliberate move away from fragmented security tools towards a unified data security mechanism.
01:45 — The report found that 47% of organizations surveyed had a GenAI-specific control in place, and this year’s survey found that an astounding 82% of those questioned have already developed plans to incorporate GenAI into their data security ops.
02:43 — When it comes to GenAI, the situation is tricky, because the technology serves both as a gateway for threat actors and as a mechanism for preventing them. When you get this balancing act right, the opportunities for growth are endless.
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In this latest episode of Cloud Wars Live, Bob Evans is joined by Colleen Kapase, Vice President of Channels and Partner Programs at Google Cloud, and Rakesh Sancheti, Chief Growth Officer at Tredence. Together, they explore how agentic AI is transforming enterprises from insight-driven organizations into adaptive, reflexive businesses. The conversation highlights how AI agents, data foundations, and partner ecosystems are reshaping productivity, decision-making, and real-time execution across industries.
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The Big Themes:
- AI Moves From Insight to Action: Enterprises are transitioning from AI that merely advises to AI systems that actively execute decisions. Agentic AI workflows enable systems to sense changes, analyze signals, and take action without waiting for human intervention. This marks a fundamental shift from dashboards and reports to operational intelligence embedded directly into business processes. The result is faster adaptation, reduced latency in decision-making, and organizations that can respond to market changes in near real time rather than after-the-fact analysis cycles.
- Partners Are the Critical Bridge: Technology platforms alone cannot deliver transformation. Partners play a crucial role in translating AI capabilities into real-world outcomes by combining industry expertise, customer context, and accelerators. They bridge the gap between powerful AI platforms and the specific operational realities of each enterprise. This partnership model accelerates deployment, reduces experimentation cycles, and ensures AI agents are connected to real data and real processes.
- Retail Emerges as a Leading Use Case: Retail provides a vivid example of agentic AI in action. Multi-agent systems personalize experiences, optimize merchandising, adjust media spend, and guide customers in real time. These systems act continuously, responding to shopper behavior, inventory signals, and market conditions instantly. The result is improved customer experience, higher returns, and operations that function more like living systems than static processes.
The Big Quote: “We’re really going to move past the era where data is just sitting in warehouses and being collected and really looking at it independently, and instead take advanced AI and put it in the hands of every single individual.”
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I examine why incremental growth matters more than sheer cloud size.
Highlights
00:02 — Made big changes atop the Cloud Wars Top 10 here at the beginning of 2026. Driven by trends in the financial results that the three biggest hyperscalers: Microsoft, Google Cloud, and AWS are reporting. There are changes taking place at the top among those companies, in terms of customer demand and the choices customers are making going forward into the AI Economy.
00:48 — My big point here is that there is a metric, key growth metric, and in Q4 for the first time that I can recall, this key metric, both Google Cloud and AWS beat Microsoft in this. This hasn’t happened that I can recall. The key here isn’t so much about mass accumulated over the years, but about the growth and who customers are spending their money with now.
01:42 — Microsoft Cloud revenue of $51.5 billion, up 26%. AWS, $35.6 billion up 24%. Google Cloud, $17.7 billion up a whopping 48%. Now look at the incremental Q4 over Q3 momentum. AWS up $2.6 billion. Google Cloud up $2.5 billion. Microsoft up $2.4 billion.
03:13 — Google Cloud actually brought in more incremental revenue in Q4 versus Q3 and this is the first time I believe this has ever happened. Google Cloud’s now has $70 billion on an annualized basis, not a little company by any means. In Q4 it grew 48% and it took more new business Q4 versus Q3 than Microsoft did.
04:56 — Google Cloud almost matched what AWS did in incremental growth for Q4, and it beat Microsoft. That validates the position I took when I moved Google Cloud to number one on the Cloud Wars Top 10. These numbers reflect what customers are doing, where they’re spending their money, who they’re choosing, and who they’re going with.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I analyze hyperscaler Q4 numbers and reveal why growth rates matter more than size right now.
Highlights
00:02— We've got the final hyperscaler numbers in now, so we can do some comparisons here. AWS reported a very strong Q4 numbers late last week. I want to talk about that in two contexts. First of all, those numbers themselves and the very nice performance AWS put together.
00:42 — The second one, though, is relative to its big competitors, specifically Google Cloud and Microsoft. AWS, in spite of good numbers itself in Q4, continues to fall behind the pace being set by the leaders, particularly Google Cloud. Its revenue is up 24% to $35.6 billion. I think that's about a $142 billion annualized run rate.
01:44 — Very impressive, excellent growth rate. Each quarter this year, their growth rate has gone up: Q1, 17%; then 17.5%; then 20%; and now 24%. Best quarter in more than three years for them. And their backlog, they said, was up 40% to $244 billion. But at the same time, Google Cloud's explosive Q4 numbers show that they have a 48% growth rate versus AWS's 24%.
02:16 — That's twice as much. So AWS is twice as big as Google Cloud, but Google Cloud is growing twice as fast. The growth rate now — 48% in Q4 for Google Cloud, 26% for Microsoft Cloud, and AWS 24% — that is really an outlier there. One is in incremental quarter-over-quarter revenue. So the revenue in Q3, then look at the revenue in Q4.
03:02 — AWS is in the lead: $2.6 billion incremental revenue in Q4 versus Q3. Google Cloud, $2.5 billion. Microsoft Cloud, $2.4 billion. AWS is twice as big as Google Cloud, but Google Cloud matched them on this incremental new growth. Microsoft is three times bigger than Google Cloud, but Google Cloud actually exceeded, by a little bit, what Microsoft did in Q4 over Q3.
04:27 — Those numbers in any other industry would absolutely be astonishing, unprecedented. In the Cloud Wars, though, as good as those AWS numbers are, it's only third-best. Oracle is expected to grow 40% to 44% in numbers that will come out in about a month, when it reports its most recent quarter. Microsoft is bigger than AWS, and it's growing faster.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explain why agent sprawl may become one of the biggest hidden risks of the AI Era.
Highlights
00:03 — The massive increase in the adoption of agentic AI technology will have significant consequences for businesses. There’ll be increased productivity, the ability to reskill employees who have more time to focus on other areas of the business, and opportunities to explore new business ideas and avenues.
00:32 — And something else — a surge in the number of AI agents, millions, millions, and millions of them. All of these agents lead to a phenomenon called agent sprawl. So if data sprawl is diesel-driven, think of agent sprawl as running on jet fuel. Without proper governance and visibility, this can lead to shadow AI, which, in the wrong hands, could effectively bring down a business.
01:04 — To avoid this, Salesforce has added automated discovery for AI agents and tools to MuleSoft Agent Fabric. Andrew Comstock, SVP and GM of MuleSoft at Salesforce, said "The expanded capabilities give you the freedom to innovate across any platform while maintaining the unified visibility and control needed to scale."
01:32 — At the core of these enhancements are agent scanners, which automatically detect and catalog AI agents across Salesforce Agentforce, Amazon Bedrock, Google Cloud’s Vertex AI, and other authorized AI platforms. Additionally, for MCP services and other bespoke agents, MuleSoft Agent Fabric facilitates easy integration across a company’s entire agent ecosystem.
02:01 — The recent updates replace manual oversight with automation, enhance security by providing instant visibility into multi-cloud agents, highlight internal tools that may otherwise be overlooked, and offer a unified agent map to identify areas for optimizing AI investments.
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Highlights
00:02 — A month ago, I moved Google Cloud up to the #1 spot on the Cloud Wars Top 10, moved Microsoft down to #3. That was predicated in large part on the tremendous job Google Cloud has done in building sort of the twin pillars: AI and cloud, the way its customers are building for the future, not just perfecting what they've done in the past.
00:27 — And also the company's impressive growth rates, showing that more and more, in spite of the size differential between Microsoft and Google Cloud, Google Cloud was winning a disproportionate share of new business, showing it is becoming, back then, the favored cloud and AI vendor.
00:47 — Well, the Q4 numbers for Google Cloud came out yesterday, and there's no doubt that that was the right call To make. Google Cloud's Q4 revenue jumped 48% to $17.7 billion and they beat Microsoft for the first time ever in a very key metric, it's the really the big thing I want to talk about here today.
01:50 — Microsoft's last three quarters, it grew 27% 26, 26. For Google Cloud, it's 32, 34, 48. Google Cloud is on a massive acceleration run here. So, in spite of the fact that the numbers here, the revenue figures, are different, what we see is Google Cloud accelerating wildly. Well, Microsoft has leveled off again.
02:23 — The key point here, this key metric I talked about up above, if you look at the incremental revenue gains each company made, looking at what calendar Q3 ended, September 30 to calendar Q4 December 31, those are the periods we're looking at. Google Cloud's revenue Q3 to Q4 went up $2.5 billion from just over $15 to $17.7, Microsoft's went up $2.4 billion $49.1 to $51.5.
03:30 — While the heart of this discussion is around Google Cloud, Microsoft has been doing an extraordinary job in this very competitive market, but that's why I call it the greatest growth market the world has ever known. We're seeing companies perform in this market unlike any other industry at any time in human history.
04:47 — The big thing about it here is you've got these smaller, disruptive cloud and AI players, Google Cloud at #1, Oracle #2, Microsoft down at #3. I moved AWS down to #7. It's doing some really good things in a lot of ways, but as far as the company setting the agenda in line with their customers for the future for the AI economy, it's Google #1, Oracle #2, Microsoft #3.
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In this episode of the AI Agent & Copilot Podcast, John Siefert, CEO of Dynamic Communities and Cloud Wars, sits down with Dona Sarkar, Chief Troublemaker, Enterprise AI Advocacy at Microsoft, to explore what it really takes to move AI agents and copilots from experimentation into production. Their conversation previews Sarkar’s keynote at the 2026 AI Agent & Copilot Summit NA and dives into practical adoption, human-centered AI, and lessons learned from real-world enterprise deployments.
Key Takeaways
- Enterprise advocacy bridges the gap: Sarkar explains that enterprise cloud advocacy exists to translate Microsoft product capabilities into practical, real-world business solutions. Rather than selling tools, her team focuses on enablement — creating demos, workshops, and labs that show how AI agents, Copilot Studio, Azure, and Power Platform can actually be deployed inside organizations.
- Production is harder than experimentation: Building an AI agent is easy; deploying it responsibly is not. Enterprises struggle with permissions, ownership, data readiness, and governance once agents move into production. These challenges reveal why successful AI adoption requires cross-functional collaboration between IT, business units, and governance teams.
- Not all work should be automated: Sarkar cautions against replacing meaningful human interactions with automation simply because it’s possible. Instead, organizations should focus AI on prioritization, analysis, and repetitive tasks — freeing humans to spend more time on creativity, judgment, and relationship-building. “We really need to go draw a big old line in the sand and say, these should be uniquely human to human activities," she says. "These should be uniquely AI to human activities. These should be uniquely AI to AI activities.”
- Human connection matters more than ever: Despite fears that AI would reduce in-person interaction, both speakers observe the opposite trend. Conferences and professional gatherings are thriving because people crave perspective, not just information. While AI can surface data instantly, point of view comes from lived experience.
- Failure is part of responsible AI adoption: Sarkar openly shares that "The number of agents I’ve had to take down is probably like 50% of the agents I built.” These failures weren’t wasted effort; they informed better tooling, clearer governance, and improved workflows. Microsoft’s rapid release of new AI tools reflects lessons learned internally before being shared with customers.
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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I look at how Microsoft is helping developers build and scale AI agents safely inside Visual Studio Code.
Highlights
00:10 — The Microsoft Copilot Studio extension for Visual Studio Code is now generally available, providing developers with the ability to build and manage Copilot Studio agents directly within the IDE. This extension is designed for developers and integrates seamlessly into their workflows.
00:28 — It includes standard Git integration, request-based pull reviews, auditability, and is tailored to the VS Code UX. The new extension reflects the growing complexity of agents and equips developers with the same best practices they use for app development, including, as Microsoft puts it, source control, pull requests, change history, and repeatable deployments.
01:02 — This extension really benefits developers when they need to manage complex agents, collaborate with multiple stakeholders, and ensure that any changes made are done so safely. It’s ideal for developers who prefer to build within their IDE while also having an AI assistant available to help them iterate more quickly and productively.
01:30 — The extension introduces important structural support for the development of AI agents. By integrating Copilot Studio directly into VS Code, Microsoft is empowering developers to build more efficiently, without compromising control, access to collaborators, or safety. This is a critical combination as AI agents become increasingly more powerful and complex.
02:00 — As these agents continue to evolve, they require the same stringent checks and balances as traditional software. Microsoft’s Copilot Studio extension addresses this by giving developers the tools they need to scale agents responsibly while maintaining performance.
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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I break down Palantir’s breathtaking Q4 results and why its customer-first AI approach is a wake-up call for the entire enterprise software industry.
Highlights
00:06 — Several companies in the Cloud Wars Top 10 have been rolling out their numbers for Q4 and for year 2025, the numbers from Palantir, expected to be pretty good. They're absolutely stunning. Total revenue growth for Q4 was up 73% and their guidance for Q1 indicates more of the same. They are guiding to 73% revenue growth for the quarter we're currently in.
00:54 — The numbers are just absolutely extraordinary, I think, breathtaking. There's no talk from Palantir that you hear from so many other enterprise software companies: "Oh, it's a challenging macroeconomic environment. There's global uncertainty, there's budget pressures on." Palantir just doesn't talk about that.
01:39 — Palantir comes in and says, "What are you trying to achieve? What are your business outcomes? Let's start there, and then we'll back up, use some of the existing software we have, or some variations combinations of it, what we're doing and with partners, it is the way of the future."
02:27 — Now let me just step away from Q4 a second and go to the full year. For the full year, revenue is up 56%. So, that means that throughout 2025 the growth rate for Palantir is accelerating significantly. Generally, we would see this flipped, where a company grew very fast in the first few quarters, but understandably slowed down as the revenue basis got bigger.
04:10 — They don't fall into the trap of having to engage with customers based on categories or boxes or buckets of industry terms created by the big analyst firms ... They do not go down that path. They say each customer's problems are unique. The capabilities that we bring are unique. The engagement model is unique, and the outcomes we want to work with are different here.
04:49 — So I think that behind these breathtaking numbers there's a wake-up call for all of the big enterprise software companies, right? What got us here will not get us there? And I think Palantir is offering to everybody an example of the new type of thinking technology and engagement models that are going to be required here into the AI economy.
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Key Takeaways
- AI's progress: Wiese expresses excitement to return to the event after a year to hear real case studies on how people have embraced AI, especially appreciating the human and change‑management side of this transformational journey. Specifically, she's eager to learn where organizations have tested, scaled, or faced pushback over the past 12 months, noting that adopting AI is an ongoing, iterative process.
- Curating the agenda: "I think my number one view of all of the submissions was around innovation," notes Wiese, who played a role as a Programming Committee Board member, selecting sessions for the 2026 AI Agent & Copilot Summit agenda. In her process, she looked for examples of where organizations have truly innovated with this technology. "I want honest, too. You know, 'this is what we tried. It didn't work, but we came back at it, here's how'".
- AI's impact on women in tech: On Thursday, March 19, Wiese will lead a Fireside Chat around her new book, "You're on Mute." The book explores whether AI has actually helped women enter and thrive in the tech industry amid persistent adoption and trust gaps. Through stories from contributors, it examines AI’s impact on leveling the playing field and encourages more women to see AI as a path into tech.
- Event expectations: The real power of conferences and events comes from being together, notes Wiese. With the lineup of speakers, she believes attendees will gain access to candid insights and meaningful peer connections.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I discuss Christian Klein's plan for SAP's continued success.
Highlights
00:00 — Hello, my friends. Welcome back to Cloud Wars Minute, where 2026 is off to a racing start here into the AI economy. And I wanted to talk today a little bit about the results for Q4 and full-year 2025 from SAP, which is now number four on the Cloud Wars Top 10, moved up from the number five spot earlier this month.
00:37 —So let’s focus on the strength that’s going on here, and why customers are reacting to the dynamics in enterprise apps and agents and AI and data marketplaces — not just apps anymore. I think SAP wrapped up a very strong Q4. CEO Christian Klein laid out a 5-point growth plan for 2026 and beyond. Before we get to that, here are my choices for the key numbers from the SAP Q4 earnings results.
01:15 — First of all, most important, total cloud backlog was up 30% to about $88 billion — very, very strong momentum going into the future. This is similar to what other companies call their RPO, remaining performance obligation. This is contracted business, locked in, but not yet recognized as revenue. Cloud revenue was up 26% for the year to $24.2 billion, so across the board, doing great.
01:57 — Within that, the Cloud ERP Suite was up 32% to $20.8 billion, and the closer-in current cloud backlog up 25% to $24.2 billion. Based on those strong numbers, Christian Klein revealed a 5-point growth plan. He said these backlog deals go out up to four years, and often customers add more. This gives SAP’s on-prem customers confidence as they move to the cloud.
03:03 — Klein said when customers migrate to the cloud, SAP often gets a two- to three-times boost in revenue as customers add more applications. He also cited a booming mid-market ecosystem through partners.
03:53 — Finally, he said the most strategic parts of future growth will be Business AI and the Business Data Cloud. In Q4, 90% of SAP’s 50 largest deals included one or both.
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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I dig into Microsoft’s fiscal Q2 results, unpacking the headline RPO surge, the OpenAI effect, and what the numbers really say about future demand.
Highlights
00:10 — Want to talk about Microsoft's fiscal Q2, numbers that came out yesterday. That's for the three months ended, December 31 and there was some remarkable numbers in there, but we're going to dig into those a little. They're still remarkable, but they need to be understood in a deeper context, and I want to share that today.
00:28 — So, the big number that jumped out to me very good, Q2 Microsoft Cloud revenue growth overall. But the big number that jumped out to me was for their Q2 RPO, remaining performance obligation, which is future contracted business not yet recognized as revenue. So, it's a look into the future the pipeline and customer demand for that.
00:51 — Microsoft said their RPO for Q2 jumped 110% to $625 billion an enormous number that's even larger than Oracle, which in the past couple quarters, has leapfrogged Microsoft as the RPO leader. But now it's back to Microsoft. Now, that 110% includes an enormous deal, a commitment from OpenAI. I if we take that out the OpenAI commitment then the RPO growth from all of Microsoft's other customers grew 28%.
01:29 — I'm not saying this try to undercut a tremendous performance by Microsoft. They earned that OpenAI deal. It's great. And hey, 281 billion is 281 billion, but this reflects a little bit of a different tone to that enormous number. Looking back the other direction, so not into the future with RPO, but the past three months, cloud revenue was up 26% to $51.5 billion.
02:34 — Now the RPO totals, I mentioned, $625 billion. Microsoft said that 45% of that 625 billion, that equates to about $281 billion is from an a commitment for OpenAI for future cloud and AI infrastructure services.
04:19 — Late last year, OpenAI signed a $38 billion deal with AWS. And there are not many $38 billion deals in any industry, of any kind, anywhere. It's only in the cloud — this greatest growth market the world has ever known — that you can look at a $38 billion deal and say, "Wow, that's 1/10 the size of these other deals with AWS competitors, Microsoft and Oracle."
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In this episode of the AI Agent & Copilot Podcast, John Siefert is joined by Shawn Dorward, Vice President at sa.global and a second-year leader on the Programming Committee Board. Together, they explore how the AI landscape has evolved from curiosity to execution, what made the 2026 AI Agent & Copilot Summit NA speaker selection process so competitive, and how leadership, creativity, and intentional AI adoption are shaping the future of enterprise innovation.
Key Takeaways
• Creativity without constraints: Dorward says that AI removes many historical limitations, forcing leaders to think without predefined rules. The most compelling session proposals challenged conventional narratives, offering unconventional ideas that expanded what attendees believed was possible. This creative freedom is essential as organizations explore entirely new operating models enabled by AI.
• Intentional AI wins: Both speakers stress that success won’t come from using AI everywhere, but from using it intentionally. Knowing when not to apply AI is just as important as knowing when to deploy it. Organizations that align AI usage with clear business goals will outperform those chasing technology for its own sake.
• Leadership must evolve: AI-driven enterprises demand a new kind of leadership — one that blends technical understanding with human judgment, ethics, and change management.That kind of leadership, not technology, will ultimately differentiate organizations in an agentic world. “What everybody doesn’t have is the same leadership," he says. "The human element, the people element is what will separate people organizations.”
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I compare how AWS, Microsoft, Google Cloud, and Oracle are competing in the sovereign cloud race.
Highlights
00:03 — AWS has announced the general availability of the AWS European Sovereign Cloud. This new, independent cloud service is located solely within the EU’s borders, ensuring that it’s separate from other AWS regions. Ultimately, the European Sovereign Cloud enables companies to comply with the EU’s sovereignty requirements without sacrificing any of the power of AWS infrastructure.
00:55 — AWS is not alone in the Cloud Wars Top 10 in offering sovereign cloud capabilities to the European market. Microsoft provides the Microsoft Cloud for Sovereignty through localized frameworks. Google Cloud, through local partnerships, has also developed sovereign-focused solutions. And Oracle has introduced the Oracle EU Sovereign Cloud Regions.
01:24 — It appears there is space for all of these competitors, because the market is demanding this sovereignty more than ever. Now, originally, this movement towards sovereign cloud solutions in Europe was stimulated by the EU’s tough stance on data protection.
02:03 — However, as we enter a period of increased global instability, these sovereign services may take on further significance by enabling companies to operate more independently, and by that, I mean in geographies of their choice.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I debunk the myth that legacy vendors like Oracle, Microsoft, and SAP can’t thrive in the cloud and AI era.
Highlights
00:10 — I want to talk about why Oracle, Microsoft, and SAP are thriving and being leaders in the industry in both cloud and AI. Why is this happening? Especially because, if you look back, we kept hearing this conventional wisdom that the legacy vendors were going to be just blown away, wiped out by these new cloud-native companies and startups, right?
00:42 — That the traditional companies here — the fifty-somethings — Oracle, Microsoft, SAP, IBM, and others, were just too old. They were fuddy-duddies. They couldn’t make the turn. They didn’t get cloud. They didn’t understand it, and these hotshot new companies were just going to blow them away.
01:36 — We see these companies not just holding their own, but actually being pioneers. Oracle, now number two on the Cloud Wars Top 10; Microsoft, number three; SAP, number four. They’re doing the AI economy as well, and a big part of that is tied directly to the fact that these companies have all been around for almost 50 years or more.
02:22 —Oracle, 49 years. Microsoft, 51 years. SAP, 54 years. They’re wearing those sort of Boomer ages as badges of honor, and doing incredibly well in the marketplace here because they’re able to use their expertise with every sort of technology ever invented.
03:04 — One of the ways that conventional wisdom in this business plays out is this notion of a zero-sum game, where there’s a limited, finite supply of assets or resources or market share — total addressable market. I mean, that’s just absolutely absurd.
04:15 — This is not a zero-sum game, and these so-called experts who try to preach that and guide decision-making based on that just don’t get it. They’re applying a model that fits some other industries that certainly does not here, and it’s actually quite harmful to follow that.
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Key Takeaways
- What to expect in 2026: The industry has moved from its previous point in the "hype cycle" into a more realistic phase, where limitations of AI and agents are clearer, and new methodologies are needed to extract real business value. Robinson adds that this year’s AI Agent & Copilot Summit serves as an important refresh to share what’s been learned, preview what’s coming, and features an exceptionally strong lineup of Microsoft AI leaders.
- Session selection process: Robinson, who serves on the event's Programming Committee Board, describes what he was looking for when selecting sessions: a balance of technical depth with business context, so attendees understand foundational concepts before advancing into more complex topics. The goal was to ensure attendees walk away with both the “cool” innovations and the practical know‑how needed to apply AI effectively without creating business issues.
- 2026 sessions: Robinson details the five sessions he'll be leading, including:
- "From Future Proof to Future Agile," on March 18
- "Copilot Studio 101 & Implementation Guide," on March 18
- "Child Agents, Instructions, and Descriptions: A New Way of Building," on March 18
- "Update to Understanding Component Collections Vs Multi-Agent," on March 19
- "Multi-Agent AI Systems with Microsoft Foundry, Copilot Studio, Fabric, Microsoft Agent Framework," on March 19
He adds that "I would love to get your insights [on] where you're having problems, challenges you're seeing... so that'll just be additional value-add on top of these great learnings in the masterclass."
- Final thoughts: Robinson encourages attendees to fully engage with the event’s intimate, community‑focused format, noting that “these speakers are going to be available to you, so take the opportunity to interact with them.” He emphasizes following the full education track for maximum value and making time for social events to connect, learn, and share insights.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I spotlight why SAP’s AI and data strategy is changing the enterprise game.
Highlights
00:02 — We’ve got more changes to dig into here on the Cloud Wars Top 10, as we saw SAP soar up to number four. SAP had held the number five spot for a couple of years now, and moved up to number four. All those companies in the enterprise application space now have morphed into applications, agents, AI, and data companies, not just simple application companies anymore.
00:42 — So, in this fast-changing environment, SAP has really stood out by dramatically outgrowing its other very, very capable competitors. I call these four pieces of the SAP portfolio the Four Horsemen of Business Transformation. So, those include Business Suite, Business AI, the Business Data Cloud, and the Business Technology Platform.
01:40 — So, for SAP, its growth rate in its most recent quarter is 27%, and its cloud revenue is $6.14 billion. Microsoft came in second place with its Dynamics 365 enterprise apps, up 18%. SAP grew 50% faster. Workday, 14.6%, $2.24 billion. Oracle, overall apps were up 11%, $3.9 billion.
02:50 — So, healthcare lagging there for Oracle, and then Salesforce, the biggest at $10.3 billion, but grew 8.6%. SAP grew about three times faster, which is a 200% differential there. What's interesting about this is business leaders looking to expand what they're doing with enterprise applications, especially to help transform their businesses, to get into the AI economy.
03:45 — So, in a wide-open field with lots of choices, terrific competition, SAP stands out as the high-growth leader. Now, it’s a little clunky to say enterprise apps, AI, agentic, and data, so if anybody comes up with a real code name for this, let me know. We’ll see what happens there, and if you come up with a great name for it, you get a Cloud Wars beer mug.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I dive into the key innovations behind Salesforce’s push toward the agentic AI enterprise.
Highlights
00:12 —Salesforce has introduced its Spring ’26 release, which will become available to customers on February 23. Salesforce Workspace, Salesforce's solution for unifying sellers and agents, is described as an intelligent hub. The solution acts as a single place for sellers to review agent performance, activity, and other analytics.
00:50 — It carries out a wide range of tasks, such as anticipating customer issues, enabling self-service resolution, and conducting issue analysis. Finally, Agentforce Builder provides organizations with a dedicated facility for building, testing, and refining agents in a single, conversational workspace.
01:41 — Here's my key takeaway: these new and enhanced features collectively push toward Salesforce's vision for the AI agentic enterprise, a place where humans and AI agents work collaboratively. What Salesforce is doing with its latest release is unifying the critical elements that will enable this vision.
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forced Microsoft out of the #1 spot in the Cloud Wars Top 10.
Highlights
00:03 — Going to go a little more deeply into the shuffles in the Cloud Wars Top 10, some big shake-ups here. Companies moving up and down. Microsoft, former number one, drops down to number three. Google Cloud, up to number one, Oracle to number two.
00:25 — I want to talk today about my main reasons for moving Microsoft down from number one to number three. The Microsoft tumble here is really centered on its deep cybersecurity flaws that were exposed about 18-24 months ago. The range and scope of these cybersecurity shortcomings and weaknesses outweigh the extraordinary financial revenue and commercial success.
01:38 — The significance of these cyber business shortcomings really came out about just over a year ago, when simultaneously both CEO Satya Nadella and Charlie Bell, who's Executive Vice President of Microsoft's Security business, both came out with public documents outlining how they were going in tandem to totally overhaul Microsoft's cybersecurity business, top to bottom.
02:44 — This came out only after a government watchdog had very publicly flagged these shortcomings that Microsoft had and the results, the disastrous results, that led to some issues in China and some exposures of valuable information and more after that. I covered this extensively through the middle of 2024 and later throughout the year,
04:18 — Microsoft has always said — Nadella has so frequently said — "Cybersecurity is our number one priority." Well, it's easy to say that. Apparently, it's very hard to do that and to live it. And this also then speaks to a lot of the questions I get about, "How do you do these rankings?" I take into account here the customer value that's being created.
05:35 — It's a remarkable time here. And, I just want to emphasize Microsoft's commercial success. Revenue growth has been remarkable. It's by far the biggest cloud company in the world. Its growth rates have been remarkable. Its RPO numbers are great, but this cybersecurity failing just absolutely knocks them out of the running to be the top dog here.
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Bob Evans speaks with Jaison Correya, CEO of CLOUDVICE, in a special Cloud Wars Live episode focused on the real-world evolution of AI. Fresh off CLOUDVICE’s win of the 2025 Oracle North America Technology and Cloud AI Innovation Partner Award, Correya explains the purpose-driven innovation behind the company’s CORX platform. The discussion explores how AI, cloud, blockchain, and robotics converge to move intelligence beyond insights into action.
From Data to Action
The Big Themes:
- AI Must Drive Action: Jaison Correya makes clear that AI’s value is limited if it stops at analysis. While AI can generate insights and recommendations, it does not create impact unless it is connected to execution. CLOUDVICE’s approach focuses on enabling AI to act in the real world through orchestration with cloud platforms, blockchain security, and robotics. This shift moves AI from theoretical intelligence to operational autonomy.
- CORX Enables Convergence: CORX is positioned as the platform where multiple technologies converge into a single operational system. Correya describes CORX as the place where AI thinks, cloud scales, blockchain verifies, and robotics acts. Rather than treating these capabilities as separate tools, CLOUDVICE integrates them to eliminate fragmentation. This convergence allows organizations to securely scale AI while ensuring verification, governance, and execution remain tightly connected across digital and physical environments.
- Endless Automation Replaces Rules: Correya introduces “endless automation” as a new model that goes beyond static, rule-based workflows. Instead of relying on predefined scripts, CORX enables AI systems that reason, learn, and act as new data nodes are introduced. This allows automation to continuously evolve without constant reprogramming. For enterprises and public sector organizations, this means greater flexibility, efficiency, and resilience as conditions and requirements change.
The Big Quote: “AI by itself can produce results, it can analyze and recommend, but it cannot scale securely without a proper cloud platform.”
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In this episode of the AI Agent & Copilot Podcast, John Siefert, CEO of Dynamic Communities, is joined by Crystal Ahrens, Vice President of Solution Delivery and System Architecture at The Heico Companies LLC. Together, they explore how enterprises are moving beyond AI experimentation into real production outcomes, drawing on lessons from implementing agents and Copilot at scale. The conversation also previews what attendees can expect at the 2026 AI Agent & Copilot Summit NA, including real-world use cases, master classes, and community-driven insights.
Key Takeaways
- From readiness to productivity: Many organizations underestimate the effort required to prepare data and systems for agentic AI. The Summit addresses this gap by showcasing companies that have moved from AI readiness to AI productivity. “Everybody’s dipping their toes in AI. Everybody’s heard of it. But getting AI productive is not that easy to do. Here, we’re going to hear the real stories — how you get there and the major pitfalls.”
- Master classes reveal the real costs: One standout element of the Summit is its master class format, which goes beyond high-level vision to expose real operational details. These sessions openly address run costs, staffing models, and the balance between human and AI labor. Rather than positioning AI as a replacement for people, speakers show how AI augments human intelligence and accelerates outcomes.
- Human intelligence amplified by AI: AI doesn’t just automate tasks, it makes people more effective. Ahrens shares examples where Copilot and agentic AI dramatically reduce manual effort in financial analysis, help desk operations, and portfolio management. By handling exceptions, querying data, and surfacing insights faster, AI allows teams to focus on higher-value work.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explore how AI and healthcare are intersecting at an unprecedented pace.
Highlights
00:14 — Discoveries in healthcare are coming at an unprecedented pace. Capabilities have never been greater, and new methods of consulting with and treating patients are consistently emerging. However, all of this progress brings with it a significant administrative burden, because the more variables you introduce, the more complexity arises.
00:34 — The key to unraveling this complexity and alleviating the burden on healthcare professionals is AI. Microsoft has announced that Anthropic has added tools, connectors, and skills to Claude in Microsoft Foundry. These new capabilities enable healthcare and life sciences organizations to leverage advanced reasoning, agentic workflows, and model intelligence.
01:30 — Claude for Healthcare provides domain-specific tools and resources to support both medical and operational workflows, covering a wide range of use cases such as patient care, triage, coordination, and claims processing. Claude for Life Sciences helps accelerate research and development by connecting to scientific platforms and enabling the generation of high-quality protocol materials with far greater ease.
02:23 — It's important to note that these services are delivered through Foundry, which benefits from a secure, enterprise-ready foundation provided by Microsoft Azure. This enables companies to scale their capabilities securely and compliantly. AI is most powerful and impactful when next-generation models like Claude are paired with infrastructure such as Foundry.
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In this Cloud Wars Special Report, Bob Evans sits down with Mike Sicilia, CEO of Oracle, to discuss Oracle’s rise to the number-two position on the Cloud Wars Top 10. Their conversation explores why customers are increasingly gravitating toward Oracle, how AI embedded across infrastructure and applications is accelerating time to value, and why openness, multi-cloud flexibility, and data gravity are reshaping enterprise decision-making.
Oracle AI Strategy and Products
The Big Themes:
- AI Built In, Not Bolted On: Oracle’s momentum is rooted in embedding AI directly into its database, data platform, infrastructure, and applications rather than layering it on later. This architectural decision enables customers to train models, run inference, and deploy intelligent applications faster and more reliably. AI is foundational across ERP, retail merchandising, healthcare, and industry solutions. By integrating AI at every layer, Oracle reduces friction, accelerates adoption, and delivers immediate business value, helping customers move beyond experimentation into production-scale AI initiatives with confidence and speed.
- AI Changes Customer Engagement Models: The traditional technology upgrade cycle has been replaced by continuous, iterative innovation. With quarterly Fusion updates delivering hundreds of new AI-enabled features automatically, customers see constant improvements without added cost or disruption. Sicilia noted that AI data platforms and agent-building tools now enable daily innovation.
- Scale, Responsibility, and Customer Trust: With more than half a trillion dollars in contractual commitments, Oracle’s leadership views execution and trust as paramount. Sicilia says that Oracle’s decades-long experience running no-fail, mission-critical systems uniquely positions it for the AI Era. Customer success, support, and operational alignment have been restructured around an “AI-first, service-first” mindset.
The Big Quote: “Very quick time to value has a lot to do with data gravity, and we are the custodians of the data. We are, in fact, the creators of a lot of the data from our applications.”"
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Welcome to the Cloud Wars Minute — your daily cloud news and commentary show. Each episode provides insights and perspectives around the “reimagination machine” that is the cloud.
In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I highlight Oracle's rise to #2 in the Cloud Wars Top 10 rankings, driven by AI-led innovation and rapid cloud growth.
Highlights
00:06 — Oracle has surged from #3 to #2 in the Cloud Wars Top 10, driven by its focus on data as the foundation for AI innovation. Co-CEOs Mike Sicilia and Clay Magouyrk are leading Oracle during a period of strong momentum, with the company leapfrogging Microsoft in cloud and AI influence.
01:27 — Oracle is embedding AI deeply across its entire product portfolio, from cloud infrastructure and applications to databases, rather than adding it on later. This approach is fueling rapid growth and helping customers adopt AI faster, more easily, and at lower cost.
02:20 — Oracle’s co-CEOs, Mike Sicilia and Clay Magouyrk, face the unprecedented challenge of executing against a $523 billion backlog while continuing to drive innovation and strong customer engagement. Despite being smaller than major competitors, Oracle’s rapid AI-driven innovation has enabled it to surpass both AWS and Microsoft in cloud influence.
04:19 — The new co-CEOs are balancing rapid innovation with the challenge of executing a massive backlog, including but not limited to the $300 billion OpenAI deal. Drawing on deep internal and cloud infrastructure experience, Sicilia and Magouyrk are positioning Oracle for its next phase of growth.
Check out my full interview with Mike Sicilia here.
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In this episode of the AI Agent & Copilot Podcast, John Siefert, President and Founder of AIAC, sits down with Seth Bacon, Director of Innovation at RSM, to explore how organizations can move beyond AI hype and into real, measurable value. Their conversation dives into practical adoption, industry-specific use cases, and what attendees can expect from the 2026 AI Agent & Copilot Summit NA, where real-world outcomes, not proofs of concept, take center stage.
Key Takeaways
- Industry-specific use cases: Bacon highlights that outcomes, data sets, and success metrics differ dramatically between sectors like manufacturing, retail, and professional services. By showcasing real industry accelerators, the summit helps attendees see what’s possible within their own vertical while also learning from how other industries solve similar problems using the same technologies.
- Accessible depth for every role: The summit is intentionally designed to support a wide range of maturity levels. Bacon notes that some attendees are just learning how to write better prompts, while others are orchestrating complex, multi-platform agentic systems.
- The power of in-person connection: While sessions provide structured learning, both speakers agree that the most impactful moments often happen outside the rooms. Bacon emphasizes that hallway conversations, meals, and informal networking create lasting relationships that extend well beyond the event. These connections give attendees trusted peers to call months later when challenges arise, making the summit not just a learning experience, but a long-term support network.
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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I break down how Google’s new Gemini 3 Flash delivers near-real-time AI performance with the speed, scale, and cost efficiency enterprises need as AI moves from Q&A to action.
Highlights
00:03 — Google has expanded its Gemini 3 model family with the introduction of Gemini 3 Flash, a model designed for speed without sacrificing quality. Gemini 3 Flash enables organizations to process data close to real time, and it's incredibly efficient, combining enhanced speed with better price performance, with this speed comes scalability.
00:48 — Ultimately, Gemini 3 Flash enables multimodal processing, which means it can build applications that analyze video and extract data in near real time. Gemini 3 Flash addresses the demand for AI-driven coding and supports the development of more autonomous AI ecosystems at scale, all in a cost effective manner.
01:14 — It delivers incredibly low latency, providing near real time experiences, which contrasts with many existing other large language models that often suffer from delays. Speed-optimized models like Gemini 3 Flash are becoming essential as the AI Revolution transitions from the Q&A to one of action.
01:40 — Customers now demand capabilities that drive live applications and assist users in real time. This is particularly important considering predicted growth of autonomous AI agents. Now beyond this, as users become more accustomed to AI, they expect multimodality.
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Bob Evans sits down with Thomas Kurian, CEO of Google Cloud, following Google Cloud’s rise to the #1 position on the Cloud Wars Top 10. Their conversation explores how Google Cloud’s customer-first philosophy, deep industry specialization, and long-term AI investments have reshaped its trajectory. Kurian shares how disciplined portfolio choices, partner ecosystems, and applied AI are helping customers innovate for the future rather than reinforce the past.
Customer-Led Cloud Strategy
The Big Themes:
- Customer-Driven Strategy Wins: Google Cloud’s ascent to the top spot is rooted in a consistent formula: deeply understanding customer problems and applying technology in distinctive, practical ways. The company’s direction has always been shaped by what customers actually need, not internal agendas. This mindset extends across product design, go-to-market execution, and partner alignment. By accepting that only customers can ultimately “say no,” Google Cloud has maintained focus and avoided distractions.
- Industry Specialization as a Differentiator: Early recognition that industries have fundamentally different needs led Google Cloud to build specialized expertise by vertical. Rather than offering generic solutions, the company invested in industry-aligned product teams, domain-specific capabilities, and tailored go-to-market motions. This approach allows customers to adopt cloud and AI faster, without reinventing best practices.
- Full-Stack AI, Built Over Time: Google Cloud’s AI strategy spans custom silicon (TPUs), infrastructure, models, platforms, and now agents. Kurian says that this wasn’t a sudden pivot—it’s the result of years of sustained investment, even when AI wasn’t fashionable. With Gemini positioned as a leading model, Google Cloud now supports both first-party and third-party models, giving customers flexibility. This layered approach allows enterprises to innovate at their own pace.
The Big Quote: “If you want to adopt a technology successfully, you need to pick a few important projects and do them well, rather than spraying on a lot of little projects.”
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I spotlight Thomas Kurian’s game-changing customer strategy at Google Cloud.
Highlights
00:03 — We’ve got a new number one on the Cloud Wars Top 10. That’s Google Cloud. They’ve leapfrogged Microsoft, and Oracle has moved up to the number two spot, with Microsoft coming in at number three. This is reflective of a very, very different business environment that we’re facing here at the beginning of the AI Economy.
00:37 — I had the chance to speak with Google Cloud CEO Thomas Kurian. The big point that Kurian made is you’ve got to understand the customer. But, you’ve got here a world-class technology company that, before Kurian’s arrival in 2019, had as its sole focus: make world-class technology and the world will beat a path to our door.
02:15 — As I said, Google Cloud has leapfrogged Microsoft to the number one spot on the Cloud Wars Top 10. The big thing is this customer understanding. And Kurian, in our video interview, describes a number of scenarios across industries, across domains, and how Google Cloud ties that all together for customer success going forward.
03:38 — I’ve had lots of lively discussions with people who believe that because Microsoft and AWS have more revenue than either Google Cloud or Oracle, therefore those are the dominant players. There’s market presence on one hand, and then there’s this key thing which is: How do you help customers build their futures rather than just perfecting what they’ve already done in the past?
04:15 — And I want to just say congratulations to everyone at Google Cloud for a monumental ascent — from number nine back in 2017, when I started the Cloud Wars Top 10, to number one. And overtaking Microsoft was an extraordinary feat, and that is driven by what customers want, not by internal tech-industry Silicon Valley metrics.
- Check out my full conversation with Thomas Kurian here.
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Key Takeaways
- Overview: Taylor defines accessibility as the "design and provision of products, services, environments, and information that can be easily used, accessed, and understood by everyone, especially those with disabilities." At its core, it’s about creating equitable experiences for all.
- Accessibility impacts: When noting the impacts of accessibility for organizations and businesses, Taylor explains that it offers ethical, financial, legal, and even SEO-related advantages, highlighting an overlap between accessibility best practices and search optimization. "The more accessible you're making your stuff to humans, the more accessible you're making it to machines.”
- Understanding the value: Helping companies understand the value of accessibility can take time, so Taylor explains that he approaches it from multiple angles, including the significant legal benefits. By ensuring products and websites comply with laws like the U.S. Rehabilitation Act and the European Accessibility Act, organizations can avoid fines, reduce legal risk, and maintain access to international markets.
- Accommodations: Workplace accommodations can greatly improve employee morale, productivity, and retention by giving people what they need to do their best work. As Taylor puts it, even simple adjustments can "unlock so much potential” and help organizations avoid the high costs of turnover.
- Learn more: Taylor describes a new podcast project that aims to educate the community about diverse disabilities while giving people a platform to share their lived experiences. The series will highlight the spectrum of experiences when it launches publicly this month.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I examine Satya Nadella’s call to shift AI focus from capabilities to societal contributions.
Highlights
00:21 — One of the leading voices in the AI Revolution, Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella, has outlined his vision for AI in a blog post. Nadella states that 2026 will be a pivotal year for AI. He says we are now past the initial discovery phase and entering a phase of widespread diffusion. Now is the time to hone in on real-world impact, to emphasize what needs to be done.
01:10 — Nadella focuses on three areas that require more attention. First, he suggests that we should move beyond the notion of AI slop versus AI sophistication. Instead, we need to view AI capabilities as, and I quote, “scaffolding for human potential,” rather than a substitute.
01:40 — Secondly, Nadella explains that we need to develop more sophisticated engineering that shifts the focus from specific AI models to broader systems. This involves orchestrating multimodal architectures and, crucially, implementing agents. Finally, Nadella emphasizes that for AI to gain social acceptance, these systems must be evaluated based on their real-world impact.
02:10 — This statement is Nadella’s most explicit reference to how Microsoft has positioned itself, particularly through the strong statements made by Microsoft AI CEO, Mustafa Suleyman, regarding the company’s commitment to human-centered AI. It’s very encouraging to see this sentiment reinforced by leadership.
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Bob Evans, Founder of Cloud Wars, joins John Siefert, CEO, Cloud Wars and Dynamic Communities, to unpack one of the most dramatic reshuffles in the history of the Cloud Wars Top 10. Together, they explore what Bob calls “tectonic shifts” as Google Cloud rises to number one, Oracle surges to number two, and Microsoft slips to third. The conversation goes well beyond rankings, diving into AI platforms, enterprise outcomes, customer-driven innovation, and why growth, not size alone, defines cloud leadership heading into 2026.
A New Cloud Order
The Big Themes:
- Growth Transparency Matters: IBM’s exit from the Top 10 underscores a critical principle — financial transparency is essential when growth is a core ranking metric. While IBM’s leadership and strategy is worthy of praise, the lack of disclosed cloud performance data makes objective evaluation impossible. The Cloud Wars Top 10 prioritizes measurable momentum that reflects customer demand.
- AWS Reflects the Past, Not the Future: AWS’s drop to number seven does not reflect failure but rather strategic timing. While AWS continues to perform well financially, its narrative is more aligned with the cloud’s past than its AI-driven future. In contrast, competitors are redefining platforms around agents, inference, and AI-native architectures. The Cloud Wars rankings reward forward momentum, and AWS now faces pressure to reassert innovation leadership rather than rely on historical dominance.
- The AI Platform Battle Is Escalating: A central theme is the race to become the trusted AI platform. ServiceNow and Palantir are the most explicit contenders, while Google Cloud closely follows. Customers want AI platforms that integrate existing systems, deliver fast outcomes, and scale securely. The winners will be those who enable co-creation, not just consumption, as enterprises build AI capabilities tailored to their specific needs.
The Big Quote: "For a while we talked about the hyperscalers as if they're all very homogeneous, all exactly the same, just different variations on a theme. I think what the new Cloud Wars Top 10 reflects is that is not the case at all."
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explore the massive reshuffle in the Cloud Wars Top 10 driven by the rise of AI-first strategies. Later this morning, I'll expand upon these themes in a second fireside chat with my CEO, John Siefert, specifically focusing on numbers four through ten on the list.
Highlights
00:03 — We’ve got more big changes going on in the Cloud Wars Top 10. SAP moves up to number four. Palantir rockets from number 10 to number five. AWS tumbles from number four to number seven, and OpenAI makes its debut on the Cloud Wars Top 10 at number 10.
00:37 — So, SAP's got 25% consistent growth for the past couple of years. Clearly, customers are voting for SAP as they move aggressively into agents. Palantir is intensely disruptive, but not just in technology and not just to be different. It feels that today’s move — the evolution from this into the AI economy — requires new types of technology.
01:46 — In Q3, the last quarter for which Palantir has reported numbers, revenue grew at a remarkable 63% to almost 1.2 billion during that Q3. The number of salespeople that Palantir has actually went down. So, it's finding new ways to engage with customers. AWS started off as number one. It's still a great company, but “great company” is no longer good enough.
02:45 — They are not, though, being the leaders — the agenda setters. That has slipped over to Google Cloud; Oracle has taken that away. So, they are the big leaders here, as AWS goes from number four to number seven. OpenAI makes its debut in the Cloud Wars Top 10, as they have now much more than the ChatGPT phenomenon from three years and three months ago.
03:49 — Got lots of people now, and certainly Palantir, saying, “Hey, we’re an AI platform company as well.” The whole premise for the last nine years of the Cloud Wars Top 10 is tech vendors are now able make their own internal operations, product development, how they engage, who they partner with, how they go to market, tied very tightly to the directions that customers want to go.
04:19 — In the old days, the tech vendor sat back, said, “I’m going to make my server 2% faster and 3% less expensive than theirs,” and expected, you know, the world to beat a path to their door. No longer the case. Now, it’s the tech companies that have to respond incredibly fast and incredibly decisively and effectively to the new directions that customers are heading in.
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Bob Evans sits down with John Siefert to unveil major shifts in the Cloud Wars Top 10 rankings in this first of a two-episode series. The discussion centers on why Google Cloud now claims the number-one position, Oracle surges to number two, and Microsoft slides to number three after a historic run. Evans explains how customer empathy, ecosystem strength, security posture, leadership vision, and forward-looking execution — not just financial performance — drive the rankings.
The Big Themes:
- The Cloud Wars Top 10 Is Holistic: The Cloud Wars Top 10 is intentionally designed to move beyond narrow metrics like revenue or technical benchmarks. As Bob Evans explains, the rankings reflect an amalgam of financial performance, innovation velocity, ecosystem maturity, leadership vision, and customer impact. This outside-in methodology evaluates how well vendors understand where customers are today and how effectively they help them move forward.
- Google Cloud’s Rise Reflects Customer Empathy: Google Cloud’s move from number two to number one reflects a long-term transformation rather than a sudden spike. Evans highlights how Google Cloud evolved from a technology-first organization disconnected from enterprise realities into a customer-centric platform under Thomas Kurian’s leadership. Empathy for customers’ existing environments, focus on sovereignty, security, compliance, and open ecosystems enabled Google Cloud to convert its technical strengths into market leadership and sustained growth.
- Oracle’s Momentum Is About the Future: Oracle’s move into the number two spot is driven by its success winning new, forward-looking business — particularly AI-driven workloads. Evans points to Oracle’s Remaining Performance Obligation (RPO) growth and aggressive go-to-market innovation. Oracle’s willingness to finance cloud expansion differently is framed not as weakness, but as strategic differentiation. Leadership continuity, operational experience, and a clear vision for AI infrastructure and data-centric cloud services are fueling Oracle’s ascent.
The Big Quote: “Nobody owns first place. You just rent it, and that lease can be pulled at any time if somebody else is doing a better job.”
Stay tuned for the second episode on Cloud Wars Top 10 shifts, coming tomorrow.
More about the Top 10 Shifts:
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In this episode of the AI Agent & Copilot Podcast, host Giuseppe Ianni, Cloud Wars Analyst and thought leader, sits down with Bob McAdam, Head of Strategic Partnerships at Tasklet and a Programming Committee member for the 2026 AI Agent & Copilot Summit NA. Together, they explore how AI has evolved from hype to hands-on reality, what attendees can expect at this year’s summit, and why practical, ERP-focused use cases are now top of mind for partners and end users alike.
Key Takeaways
- From Talk to Tangible Value: AI conversations have evolved rapidly over the past year, and McAdam emphasizes that organizations are now demanding proof of value. Businesses no longer want abstract discussions about Copilots—they want to see how agents improve ERP workflows, automate repetitive tasks, and drive measurable efficiency. This shift reflects a broader maturity in the market, where curiosity has turned into expectation.
- Session Selection Beyond the Buzzwords: As a Programming Committee member, McAdam looks for sessions that go deeper than hype. He values speakers who bring specificity—manufacturing, distribution, documentation, or customer service—rather than generic AI narratives. Even “unsexy” topics like process documentation earn a place because of their real-world importance.
- AI as a Career Accelerator: The conversation highlights that AI adoption isn’t just about company transformation—it’s also about individual growth. Many attendees come to the summit to build personal competitive advantage, learning skills and mental models they can apply immediately. Experimenting with AI in personal workflows often becomes the gateway to professional adoption.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I break down why Google Cloud now tops the Cloud Wars Top 10.
Highlights
00:08 — This week we have named Google Cloud as the new number one company on the Cloud Wars Top 10. Oracle has risen to number two. Microsoft slides down to number three. Microsoft’s held that top spot for four years. It’s three times bigger than Google Cloud, but there’s much more that goes into the Cloud Wars Top 10 than size alone.
01:30 — We’ve got coming up a video with John Siefert, our CEO, and also a detailed article that looks at a lot of the key indicators behind Google Cloud’s rise, points to some of the challenges Microsoft has faced, and also mentions how Oracle, too, has moved up here because it is doing more of what customers need to be successful in the AI Economy.
02:06 — Thomas Kurian has just done a phenomenal job. When Kurian started, he said, “I need to triple the size of our sales organization.” So, while Google Cloud's always had great technology, its connection to customers and its way of engaging with customers was something that Kurian pretty much had to build from scratch.
02:57 — I think Microsoft’s cloud revenues, relative to Oracle, are seven times bigger, but it’s more than that. Who’s leading the innovation agenda? Who is taking these new ideas forward? Who is helping customers adapt quickly, transform quickly, and become the sort of companies they’re going to need to be to succeed and win in the AI Economy?
03:46 — When I started, a lot of people said, “You can’t compare an infrastructure company to an applications company.” I said, “Sure, I can.” I felt that often these lists of who the leaders are in different markets or categorieswere driven by Silicon Valley, inside-the-industry perspectives. Here, I’ve tried to take a look at it for these nine years from the point of view of customers.
04:24 — And I think in this case, regardless of the size differential, Google Cloud is doing more on both cloud and AI. I think about what Oracle’s done to be able to come up to number two. A handful of years ago, Oracle said, “We’re going full force into the cloud infrastructure business. We’re going to become a hyperscaler.” Many so-called experts said that’s crazy.
05:01 — Yet, Oracle has built a huge and fast-growing business out of that. Okay, again, going back a handful of years, there werepeople who said AWS is the number one company. It’s the king of the cloud. Nobody will ever be able to touch it or displace it. Well, Microsoft did that. Nobody owns first place. It’s a temporary lease.
06:03 — It’s now Google Cloud, Oracle, Microsoft as the top three companies. We’ll give you lots more details on who’s in the number four through number ten spots going forward over the next week or two, and then within that and going forward, deeper analyses of each company and where they stand.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I look at the continued strength of the Microsoft–OpenAI partnership, despite past tensions, through the launch of GPT-5.2.
Highlights
00:12 — Microsoft has announced the general availability of OpenAI’s GPT-5.2 in Microsoft Foundry. It stated that introducing a new frontier model series, purposefully built to meet the needs of enterprise developers and technical leaders, is setting a new standard for a new era.
00:39 — The GPT-5.2 series boasts deeper logical reasoning, richer context handling, and better execution for agentic AI tasks. The GPT-5.2 series’ advanced reasoning means that it takes less effort to achieve more, all the while providing better safety and guardrails. Microsoft is pushing the adoption of the GPT-5.2 series as a way for developers to supercharge their agentic AI efforts.
01:35 — A few months ago, when it seemed that the relationship between OpenAI and Microsoft was deteriorating, it would have been a significant setback if the company’s models weren’t continually integrated into the Microsoft developer ecosystem. However, that has not been the case, which is a testament to the continued collaborative nature of the AI Revolution.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I connect the dots between tech disruption and retail transformation.
Highlights
00:15 — We see now the true emergence from what I’ve called for a long time the AI Revolution, now into the AI Economy. NVIDIA, with a strategic partnership with Mercedes-Benz, is not just Mercedes-Benz using a little bit of NVIDIA’s software inside its new cars. It's calling it an AI-driven car. Google then also stepped outside of the tech industry to buy an energy firm.
01:15 — Could it be the merging of the energy and the tech industries here to provide the power behind AI? Next week there’ll be the giant National Retail Federation show. I suspect that, you know, 80 or 90% of the announcements there will be about new technology and AI and cloud being used to revolutionize and further stimulate innovation and growth in the retail sector.
03:31 — So I think what we’ll see here throughout 2026 — it’s been a busy first week or so in here — we’re going to see the entire global economy rocked by these changes, as AI is infused into every facet of what businesses are doing, and the AI providers and cloud providers begin to move laterally and, in some cases, aggressively into different markets here.
04:30 — We’ve seen the pace of these massive, disruptive revolutions — upheavals in business cycles — go from, you know, centuries to decades to years. And to the leadership — not only in the tech companies that I cover, but in their customers — has to be one where, you know, the enemy here is time. There’s no chance to sit back, play it safe, wait and see what my competitors do.
05:06 — They’ll get the first-mover status, but I’ll come in with a smarter approach. I just — I think those days are over. We’ve got a long article coming up about this on CloudWars.com that goes into more detail and offers lots of examples of what I’ve touched on here today.
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Bonnie Tinder is the founder and CEO of Raven Intelligence, an independent B2B peer review site that amplifies the voice of the customer. She focuses on software customers, consulting partners, and software vendors and helps identify the best partners for their needs. In this episode of Cloud Wars Live, Bonnie and Bob explore why AI success hinges far more on implementation than hype. As the AI economy moves from experimentation to everyday business reality, Bonnie shares research-backed insights from hundreds of enterprise HR projects showing that poorly executed implementations quietly derail AI value.
Episode 57 | Implementation Before Intelligence
The Big Themes:
- Implementation Determines AI Value: AI success is not driven by algorithms alone — it is directly tied to the quality of enterprise software implementation. Analysis of 500 HR projects shows a strong correlation between implementation effectiveness and AI-driven business outcomes. Organizations with successful implementations realized nearly twice the value from AI initiatives compared to those with partial or failed rollouts.
- Data Readiness Is the Biggest Barrier: The most common reason AI initiatives fail is insufficient data maturity. Clean, standardized, and integrated datasets — particularly across HR, finance, and operations — are essential. Disparities between systems like payroll, talent management, and time tracking undermine AI effectiveness. Enterprises with unified data architectures unlock far greater AI value because insights can flow across the business, enabling agents and analytics to operate holistically rather than in silos.
- Process Discipline Is Rewarded: AI rewards disciplined organizations and punishes undisciplined ones. Well-defined workflows, governance structures, and operational rigor enable AI to perform as intended. Without them, AI exposes inefficiencies and compounds chaos. This explains why AI often “fails” during implementation rather than in production. The technology is rarely the issue, organizational readiness is. AI simply shines a spotlight on how well the business actually runs.
The Big Quote: “AI does not replace process discipline. It rewards it."
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Key Takeaways
- Adoption approach: Successful adoption of AI requires not only technical implementation but also strong data governance, strategic initiatives, and enterprise-level practices, explains Simms. While there is great potential across business solutions, challenges like hallucinations and poor adoption highlight the need for structured approaches and diverse expertise.
- Session selection: As a member of the Programming Committee Board, Simms explained his thinking behind evaluating session submissions. When reviewing session proposals, he looked for submissions that addressed essential issues for the data platform and went beyond technology alone to include governance, change management, and user adoption.
- Adapating with new tech: Technology evolves in 2–3 year cycles, notes Simms, making continuous skill updates essential, but AI highlights underlying data and process issues that can no longer be hidden. Success requires a solid foundation, strategic vision, clear requirements, and fixing data quality at the source to ensure use cases deliver meaningful results.
- Final thoughts: In closing, Simms expresses his excitement for the event and encourages attendees to participate in the Golf Invitational.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I look at why private-data inferencing may be the next trillion-dollar AI market
Highlights
00:28 — Larry Ellison's grand AI plan for 2026 is centered on the holy grail for CEOs, boards of directors, and business leaders. They’re looking to unlock the power of all their data for AI reasoning and inferencing. Oracle’s promise is that Oracle’s solutions are going to allow companies to be able to reason and do inferencing on all of their private data, and to do so very securely.
01:24 — Here are the pieces that he said are going to come together for this: the existing Oracle databases and all the data that’s in them plus now the new Oracle AI Database. They’ve got their Oracle Applications, Oracle Cloud Infrastructure. All of those pieces are coming together.
02:59 — We’ve all heard about training AI models. He said that is a spectacularly huge and fast-growing business. But, he said, when you then take that away from training the models and get it into the corporate world, to be able to do the reasoning over and inferencing on private corporate data, he said that’s an even bigger market than training AI models.
03:24 — And he said Oracle is going to be right in the thick of these two — the largest and fastest-growing markets in history — now in the Cloud Wars. Oracle, I believe, has taken the lead position in saying, “We cannot just outline it and describe it. We can do it. We can deliver it, and we can do that now.” This is where Ellison has helped to distinguish Oracle from all other competitors.
04:08 — He’s done this for the last half century, and I think at this point, with some of the different pieces he’s put together, we’ve got to position Oracle as the leader — at least right now — in enabling the fulfilment of this Holy Grail, where companies are able to unlock and unleash the power of all of their data for AI applications and AI purposes, leading the way into the AI economy.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I share how big tech and Edtech are aligning to meet the challenges of rapid change.
Highlights
00:03 — IBM and Pearson have announced a partnership to create personalized learning products powered by AI. These products are designed for a wide range of businesses, public organizations, and educational institutions. Pearson aims to utilize watsonx Orchestrate and watsonx Governance to develop these products. Additionally, IBM will create a custom AI-powered learning platform.
00:47 —Moreover, IBM will also deliver Pearson solutions to its customers and employees. The two companies are also exploring tools to help verify the capabilities of AI agents. Omar Abbosh, CEO of Pearson, explained that, together with IBM, the company was building trusted AI-powered learning tools that will help people and organizations thrive in a world of constant change.
01:36 — This is a great example of the flexibility and multifaceted nature of the AI Era, where companies form strategic partnerships not only to get a product out there and to market, but also to share expertise on new tools and systems. These collaborations help boost understanding and adoption of AI
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Key Takeaways
- Reflections: Grant reflects on last year's AI Agent & Copilot Summit, acknowledging the in-depth learning opportunities given the newness of AI at the time. Although it was the first year, he says it "felt like a really mature conference." The upcoming AI Agent & Copilot Summit can enable attendees to dig deeper into "how we actually accomplish things as a business, as an organization, and even as individuals.
- Session considerations: Looking forward to the event in March, Grant is excited to attend various sessions. He finds sessions on Microsoft products interesting as well as sessions that provide an individual point of view. "I'll look at the content of a session, but I look almost equally as much at the speaker to think about, 'What is this person like? What's their perspective in the world and on business? And how are they using this in a way that other people aren't yet?' I think that's where we start hitting and tapping on innovation."
- Learning from insights: AI Agent & Copilot Summit speakers come to the event prepared to share their experiences and expertise with attendees. Grant outlines what topics attendees might expect and what sessions he submitted to speak at the event. "The world is changing by the minute, and I think it's important for us to go into this eyes wide open and think about what we're doing right and how we're doing it. It matters," he states.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explore what ServiceNow’s potential $7B acquisition of Armis could mean for its cybersecurity strategy and its customers.
Highlights
00:06 — According to recent reports, ServiceNow is in advanced talks to acquire Armis, with more details expected to be announced in the coming days. Coverage from Bloomberg suggests that the deal could be worth up to $7 billion. I want to discuss what the introduction of Armis to the ServiceNow ecosystem could mean for customers.
00:34 — Armis is a cyber exposure management and security company. The company's technology protects the integrity of an organization's attack surface and manages cyber risk exposure in real time. The company's flagship platform, Armis Centrix, is an AI-enhanced, cloud-native security solution that monitors an organization's digital attack surface.
01:07 — If this deal goes ahead at the reported price, it would be by far the largest acquisition in ServiceNow's history. The addition of AI-enhanced cybersecurity tools that not only consistently monitor but also provide real-time priority protection would significantly boost ServiceNow's existing security capabilities.
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Key Takeaways
- AI use cases: At Insight Works, Hamblin explains that AI is leveraged in three main ways: to enhance internal business process development, to create higher-quality marketing content, and to enhance product offerings.
- Product specifics: Hamblin shares how AI is streamlining Shop Floor Insight, a product of Insight Works, by automating labor time validation, eliminating the need for supervisors to manually review time cards through exception-based logic and rules. Further, AI and agents are enhancing production scheduling by analyzing millions of decision points, identifying issues, and providing real-time insights or alerts, paving the way for innovative, user-driven automation through tools like the Agent Playground.
- Adoption: Hamblin notes the mixed reactions to AI adoption. While AI can rapidly deliver solutions, such as building a container management system in hours, it ultimately enables employees to focus on higher-value work, helping businesses scale without increasing headcount. However, AI-related change management can be complex, as capabilities evolve dramatically within months and future advancements are unpredictable. This uncertainty poses challenges for change management.
- AI advancement: Now, AI excels at processing large datasets and answering natural language queries, and its capabilities have advanced dramatically compared to a few years ago. Previously, it could build applications like a WMS mobile app in minutes, but today’s technology is far more powerful and sophisticated.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I want to wish everybody a Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, and an incredible New Year.
Highlights
00:02 — This is the best time of the year, the holidays. We want to say Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays. Happy New Year to everybody. This is my special partner, Louisa. She's two and a half. She's quite the technologist.
00:40 — So, hey, everybody, I just want to say it is a blast being a little part of your technology lives. We have enjoyed this year so much. We are having lots of fun with Cloud Wars.Louisa's got to go. She's got big things to do. Merry Christmas. Happy Holidays. Happy New Year to you.
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today's Cloud Wars Minute, I unpack how tech and mindset together will decide the winners in the 2026 AI economy.
Highlights
00:31 — Google Cloud, has just had a pretty interesting engagement with BNY Mellon. BNY used to be called Bank of New York, merged with Mellon — a massive financial services organization — and they've got what I think is a brilliant AI strategy. It's simply: “AI for everyone, everywhere, everything."
01:24 — BNY has chosen to take Gemini Enterprise and adapt it into BNY’s own sort of home-built AI platform called Eliza. And again, as I noted here, a big part of BNY's mindset on this — their approach to it — is to say: everybody in the organization now has access to the Eliza platform, and now with Gemini Enterprise as well.
02:40 — Now, this is something that Google Cloud CTO Will Grannis and I recently discussed on a podcast episode. Fascinating comments from Will — we’ve got a lot of that covered in a detailed article that will be posted later this morning on this whole BNY–Google Cloud collaboration.
03:19 — Will said, look: you can make two lists. On one side, there's a list of companies that succeeded with AI in spite of their culture. He said the other list is companies that succeeded with AI because of their culture. And he said one of those lists will be empty. Guess which one that'll be?
04:07 — I think that's going to be one of the big issues and stories going into 2026. The companies that are going to win in the AI economy are going to be ones that are able to master that duality of both the technology and the culture/mindset thing. It has been a fun year here in the Cloud Wars, and we've got more coming up tomorrow — a special Christmas episode of Cloud Wars Minute.
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In this episode of the AI Agent & Copilot Podcast, John Siefert, CEO of Dynamic Communities and Cloud Wars, is joined by AJ Ansari, Microsoft MVP and member of the programming committee for the AI Agent & Copilot Summit. The conversation focuses on what enterprises should really be looking for as agentic AI adoption matures.
Key Takeaways Real-world stories over hype: As interest in agentic AI surges, Ansari notes a sharp increase in speaker submissions driven by practitioners who have moved beyond experimentation. The most valuable content, he explains, comes from organizations that have tried, failed, learned, and succeeded—particularly those using AI to tackle concrete business challenges like efficiency, productivity, and margin pressure. Those real-world stories are “worth the price of admission,” he says. * Practical impact and ROI: While aspirational innovation has its place, conference attendees want takeaways they can actually apply. According to Ansari, the best sessions balance vision with execution—so attendees leave knowing not just what’s possible, but how their investment in agentic AI will translate into measurable business outcomes. * Clarity before AI: One standout insight is Ansari’s “Clarity Method,” which urges organizations to step back before defaulting to AI. Not every problem requires agents or copilots. Some can be solved through process changes, automation, or application updates. AI should be applied deliberately, once it’s clear it’s the best solution, not just the newest one. * What to expect at the AI Agent & Copilot Summit: The upcoming AI Agent & Copilot Summit emphasizes an intimate, peer-driven experience with a mix of main-stage discussions and deep-dive master classes. Expect practical guidance, candid discussions about risks and security, and a community willing to “pull back the curtain” and share lessons learned, because, as Ansari puts it, this isn’t a zero-sum game. * Maximizing the conference experience:* Ansari encourages attendees to plan ahead: identify must-see sessions, leave room for serendipity, and prioritize networking. “Come with an appetite to learn,” he advises, noting that some of the most valuable insights emerge from hallway conversations and peer exchanges.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I look at how Google Cloud is reshaping the defense tech landscape.
Highlights
00:04 — Google Cloud has announced a multi-million dollar contract with the NATO Communication and Information Agency (NCIA), to provide critical sovereign cloud capabilities.This new strategic partnership aims to enhance NATO's digital infrastructure.The NCIA will utilize Google Distributed Cloud, or GDC, to support its Joint Analysis, Training, and Education Center, or JATEC.
00:39 — One of the key features it will employ is Google Distributed Cloud (GDC) Air-Gapped, which is an essential component of Google's sovereign cloud solutions. The feature allows the delivery of cloud services and AI capabilities to disconnected, fully secure environments.
00:56 —Tara Brady, President of Google Cloud EMEA, said the following: ". . . This partnership will enable NATO to decisively accelerate its digital modernization efforts while maintaining the highest levels of security and digital sovereignty."
01:38 — For Google Cloud, this development represents significant progress in expanding its presence within the defense industry, a sector long led by AWS and Microsoft. It also emphasizes growing confidence in Google's sovereign cloud offerings and highlights the increasingly complex and competitive nature of the cloud market.
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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I break down the latest earnings results showing Oracle and Google Cloud surging into a tie for the #2 fastest-growing cloud vendors in the world’s greatest growth market.
Highlights
00:13 — Two companies that are really pushing the boundaries here in the greatest growth market the world has ever known are Oracle and Google Cloud. Recently, Oracle pulled into a tie with Google Cloud for the second spot, number two spot on the fastest growing major cloud vendors list that is topped by number one, Palantir.
00:41 — Nine of the 10 companies break out their cloud earnings. IBM does not for reasons I cannot fathom, but of the nine that do, five saw their growth rates accelerate in the most recent quarter, four of them saw declines, but only by one point. So for these, levels of growth are being sustained, strong customer demand, belief in the transformative power of what's going on with AI in the cloud.
02:13 — Overall, we see lots of momentum here, across the board all the different sorts of products and services offered by the different Cloud Wars Top 10 companies and we saw Oracle make the biggest jump here, other than Palantir, Oracle went from 28% to 34%. So, it and Google Cloud: I've been making the case for the last 12-15 months that they're the most disruptive of the four hyperscalers.
02:43 — They're coming out with new sorts of technologies, new ways of helping to push AI forward and definitely new go to market approaches. The partnership programs they have are also quite striking. So, going into the new year, those are going to be two companies really to watch. I think Microsoft's doing a good job on a very broad basis.
03:03 — AWS has some has some work to do. It's just not been performing at the rate, especially when we look at future revenue growth as we see through the RPO numbers — talked about that some in yesterday's episode. Anyway, lively group here. When we say the greatest growth market world has ever known, I think these numbers continue to bear that out.
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Key Takeaways
- Summit expectations: With so many people dipping their toes into the AI, Copilot, and agentic capabilities of Microsoft, Nancie expects the AI Agent & Copilot Summit to be filled with exciting stories about the outcomes and how people are leveraging and benefiting from it. She also anticipates seeing more exploratory customer case studies demonstrating the shift from conversational Copilot side to the agentic side. "I'm expecting to see much more of that understanding, how to use the full capability of the agentic feature."
- Selecting speakers: As part of the AI Agent & Copilot Summit Programming Committee Board, Nancie has been involved with selecting sessions for the event. She considers criteria for sessions, such as applying real-world use cases, demonstrating outcomes, and providing clarity on how organizations are benefiting. "It's less about the fear of 'How do I use this?' We should be able to see a good balance between business and technical perspectives," and how to launch safely, she shares.
- Moving forward in confidence: Those who attend the AI Agent & Copilot Summit will be able to move forward in adopting the technology in confidence and understanding the path to success. It's important to look at the holistic process so the end customers understand all the features available to update business processes as well as be able to work in a co-creation, collaborative way.
- AI impact: Attendees can gain guidance at the event on applying AI within their own careers, as it can add a competitive edge not only to businesses but also at the career level. Individuals can reflect on how AI will impact professional roles and leadership. The event provides a space to consider what career paths look like in the age of AI. "I see this event as an opportunity for people not just to attend sessions but to collaborate and talk with others who are attending so that they can learn from each other and network with each other, and just build their careers."
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I cover Oracle's Q2 results.
Highlights
00:19 — One of the hottest Cloud Wars Top 10 companies right now is Oracle. And I want to talk today a little bit about Oracle's Q2 results from last week. I think there's been a little bit of the fog of war, the fog of AI war specifically here, that has obscured the impact behind what's really going on with Oracle's numbers.
01:06 — Let's look at Oracle's RPO (remaining performance obligation) results from Q2. RPO rose 433% to $523 billion. Far bigger than any RPO any other company has in the last three months, due in large part to deals with NVIDIA, Meta, and others not named. These are hard and fast numbers about where Oracle's business is headed in the future
02:36 — What's going on elsewhere? The biggest cloud vendor in the world, Microsoft, its most recent RPO numbers went up 51% to $392 billion. Those are remarkable numbers. Looking forward, customers around AI and cloud are giving far more of their contracted future business to Oracle than to Microsoft.
04:06 — Oracle's OCI cloud business is bigger than its applications business. Its Autonomous Database revenue rose 40%, and its multi-cloud business is up 817%. That number is a little misleading, because the business is relatively new, but I don't know anybody out there who would not want to have businesses growing at 817%.
04:45 — I've been focusing a lot on RPOs for the last two and a half years or so. It's a great indicator of where customers are committing their money for the future. These big contracts that have signed are going into the past. Nothing wrong with that, but that reflects where the money in the past has gone. RPO is showing the future.
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In today's Cloud Wars Agent & Copilot Minute, I explore Microsoft's addition of Mistral Large 3 to its Foundry platform and why it's a major win for developers seeking open, enterprise-ready AI models.
Highlights
00:11 —Microsoft Foundry is a platform from Microsoft, designed for building, customizing, and deploying GenAI applications and agents. It allows users to access over 11,000 models. Recently, Microsoft added a new model to its offerings, Mistral Large 3. Microsoft claims it to be one of the strongest open-weight, Apache-licensed frontier models available on the Microsoft cloud.
00:53 — An open-weight model is similar to an open-source model, but with some differences. In an open-weight AI model, the parameters used to train the model are publicly available, not just for use or viewing, but also for downloading and modifying. More developers are turning to these models because they offer flexibility.
01:40 — Mistral Large 3 is one of the world's leading open models optimized for enterprise applications. It excels in instruction following, long-context comprehension and retention, multimodal reasoning, predictable performance, and applied reasoning. Unlike its closest competitors, Mistral Large 3 is fully open, with Apache 2.0 licensing.
02:08 — Each new model is carefully selected. It's not just a free-for-all. With Foundry, Microsoft is demonstrating its expertise in the space by keenly understanding what developers want—in this case, an open model with real-world enterprise applications. The pace of AI development is such that even incremental changes and improvements dramatically impact how businesses operate.
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Sales, and Matt Hobbs, Cloud Engineering and Data Analytics Platform Leader and Partner at PwC US. Together, they explore how companies can stop overpaying for cloud and instead fund AI innovation by shifting spend from legacy and suboptimal cloud deployments into modern architectures, multi-cloud strategies, and enterprise-grade AI capabilities that actually move the needle on growth, margin, and new business models.
Smarter Cloud, Bigger AI
The Big Themes:
- Built to Cost Less: Oracle entered the cloud market later and designed OCI from the “bare metal up” with off-box virtualization, a low-latency non-blocking network, and significantly lower egress pricing. That means Oracle’s own cost to deliver infrastructure is structurally lower, so they don’t need to “race to zero” with margin-crushing discounts. When customers compare OCI run-rates to first-generation hyperscalers, it’s common to see40–70% savings at list-to-net, not just in special deals.
- Turning Technical Debt Into Innovation Budget: Hobbs notes that roughly 40% of internal tech budgets are often tied up in technical debt rather than innovation. PwC sees executives searching for ways to unlock capital for AI and growth initiatives, not just trim expenses. Its “Fit for Growth” program looks at where money is tied up in non-differentiating costs (cloud infrastructure being one of the biggest line items) and reallocates that spend into value-creating initiatives. When PwC runs side-by-side economics, they’ve seen OCI’s promised 40–70% savings show up in real deals.
- OCI + PwC: budget creation meets execution: The Oracle–PwC collaboration stands out, the guests argue, because both sides are relentlessly focused on the client outcome rather than maximizing any one platform. PwC validates OCI’s economics and brings the talent to design and execute migrations, process re-invention, and agentic AI programs; Oracle brings a cost-efficient, multi-cloud-friendly infrastructure designed for price-performance and portability.
The Big Quote: “You can burn a lot of money chasing ghosts in this game if you really don't have a very specific use case."
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Welcome to the Cloud Wars Minute — your daily cloud news and commentary show. Each episode provides insights and perspectives around the “reimagination machine” that is the cloud.
In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I discuss why culture, mindset, and leadership matter just as much as technology in driving AI transformation, based off my conversation with Will Grannis, CTO, Google Cloud.
Highlights
00:30 — Will has been the Chief Technology Officer at Google Cloud, one of the world’s most advanced technology companies, for almost a decade. So Will’s perspectives on things are pretty powerful, especially in this notion of how corporations unlock the power of AI to drive great outcomes for those companies and their customers or their patients or their stakeholders.
01:10 — One of the first things that Willtalked about is the big AI unlock. He said you’ve got to start with thinking about putting the customer at the center of everything, and then build back, build out from there. So reverse-engineer what has to change inside the organization to ensure that the customer outcomes, the customer experience, the customer value, areat the center.
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02:27 — He talked a lot about the mindset. One customer example was recently BNY Mellon. BNY Mellon has added Gemini Enterprise for its Eliza AI platform, and that is being used now. The Chief Data and AI Officer at BNY Mellon said our AI strategy in the company is simple. He said it’s AI for everyone, AI everywhere, and AI for everything.
03:19 — He said this is something that’s enabled them now to do more things for their customers. It allows their internal people to be much more productive, be more expansive in their analysis, so that they can provide greater value to their customers. Will said it’s been a huge change at the company.
04:06 — So again, I hope you have a chance to check out the whole interview with Will Grannis, the Chief Technology Officer at Google Cloud. You can see it in the links here. Will’s a terrific guy. One of the things you’ll see here is he offers some pretty honest and candid assessments about challenges he himself has faced as the CTO at Google Cloud, and very candidly explains how he got aroundthose.
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Bob Evans sits down with Will Grannis, Chief Technology Officer at Google Cloud, to unpack how AI is reshaping both technology stacks and corporate culture. They explore Google Cloud’s Gemini Enterprise platform, the newly upgraded Gemini 3 models, and the rise of agentic AI. Along the way, Will shares customer stories from industries like finance, healthcare, retail, and travel, and even talks about how his own team had to change its habits to benefit from AI.
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The Big Themes:
- Models vs. Platforms in the AI Stack: Grannis draws a sharp distinction between AI models like Gemini and the broader platforms that operationalize them. Models determine how intelligent and capable AI workflows are “out of the box,” across tasks like reasoning, multimodal understanding, and conversation. Platforms, by contrast, are how a business injects its own data, processes, and rules to build differentiated IP, brand experiences, and competitive moats. In practice, that means thinking beyond a single chatbot to agentic workflows composed of models, data, tools, and multiple agents working together.
- Culture and Discipline: Grannis describes how even his own team initially struggled to build an internal ops agent to automate sprint reviews, status updates, and reminders. It was only after leadership pushed them to be an exemplar that the agent became reliable and valuable. Things as simple as putting status information in the same place on every slide suddenly mattered. The lesson: AI exposes hidden process chaos. To get leverage from agents, organizations must tighten their operating discipline and be willing to change how they work, not just bolt AI onto old habits.
- Rethinking ROI and Metrics: Traditional, siloed ROI metrics can kill transformational AI efforts before they start. Grannis cites research about AI projects dying at proof-of-concept stage and contrasts that with companies like Verizon, which used AI in the contact center to simultaneously lift revenue, reduce cost, and improve customer satisfaction by turning support calls into sales moments. Instead of chasing a single metric in isolation, he advocates for “bundles” of outcomes anchored in customer experience.
The Big Quote: “We had to be more disciplined about how we conducted our own work. And once we did that, AI’s effectiveness went way up, and then we got the leverage.”
More from Will Grannis and Google Cloud:
Connect with Will Grannis on LinkedIn or learn about Gemini Enterprise.
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Key Takeaways
- Mullican expresses the value of the event, and given that AI and Copilot have matured, the sessions at the 2025 AI Agent & Copilot Summit NA will shift from a focus on experimentation to practical applications that deliver real impact.
- As a returning Programming Committee Board member, Mullican highlights the "unprecedented number of submissions this time around,” making it tough to choose sessions for 2025. The event will offer a mix of visionary talks, practical use cases, and deep dives to serve both tech and business audiences.
- Mullican shares how business leaders can use the event to "adapt to a new reality," as it aims to “cut through the hype” around AI and focus on practical realities. Even though AI offers transformative potential, most businesses will adopt it gradually, using tools like copilots to improve efficiency rather than undergoing radical overnight changes. "I expect that there's going to be a lot of discussion about. It's just these different layers, these different levels of AI hype and truth."
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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I look at how IBM and Cisco are teaming up to pioneer long-distance quantum networks.
Highlights
00:03 — Although not the only company invested in the development of quantum computing, IBM is certainly considered the most active. The company has the highest number of patents, a clear road map for fault tolerant quantum systems, and the most prestigious track record across quantum hardware, software and the commercialization of these tools.
00:28 — Now, IBM and Cisco Systems have revealed plans to link a network of quantum computers over long distances — and the result, perhaps the introduction of the quantum internet. Before I get carried away on this, leaders from both IBM and Cisco have confirmed that the technology to power these networks doesn't yet exist, but they are working on it.
00:59 — The bottleneck is getting qubits, the unit of information used by quantum computers, to travel along fiber optic cables between Cisco switches. IBM and Cisco hope to have the first proof-of-concept ready within five years, a network that connects individual, large scale, fault-tolerant quantum computers with the power to run computations over 10s to hundreds of 1000s of qubits.
01:49 — So, why do we need the quantum internet? Well, beyond the massive enhancement in computational power, which is the primary driver for companies to enter this space, if quantum computing itself becomes widespread, we'll need quantum structures in the Internet to protect ourselves from our very own creation.
02:28 — Technology is advancing at an unfathomable speed, and just like in the AI space, we need to ensure it's contained. In fact, researchers at IBM co-developed three of the four quantum resistant algorithms that the U.S. National Institute of Standards and Technology, or NIST, have earmarked for future standardization.
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Highlights
00:24 — I think we’re seeing some very interesting competitive battling between Palantir and ServiceNow, head to head, emerging over two categories. One, this AI platform position that they’re both talking about relentlessly as sort of the core of their strategic value. And secondly, they’re both on this kick now about who is the defining software company of the 21st century, of the generation.
01:57 — Both are talking up the power of the AI platform as the foundation for what companies need to succeed in this new AI-centric future. Which one has the right approach? How are they trying to position their companies, their capabilities, their ecosystems, to be able to take advantage of that? These are some of the things that I get into in detail in a later article.
02:19 — We’ve also got both claiming that their results are just the greatest thing ever relative to the Rule of 40, which is for high-growth companies. You want to have a combination of 20% growth or more for revenue and 20% growth or more for margins, to have those equal 40 or more. Both exceed that number.
03:26 — Who’s got the momentum? Who’s positioning themselves right in this sweet spot for businesses moving into this AI future, right? Who’s going to be able to put together the tools that control the agents, that let all the data that’s needed for IE come through? How are they able to build applications easily on top of this?
04:05 — But right now, I think ServiceNow and Palantir are the ones that have the most focus on this AI platform vision. And it was fun to sort of look at this. In the article, we look at some of the comments from the Q3 earnings call from ServiceNow CEO Bill McDermott, and also from Palantir’s Chief Revenue Officer, Ryan Taylor.
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Key Takeaways
- Agents take center stage: Bensch says last year’s event was focused on Copilot basics and early-stage AI adoption, but 2025 is the year of agents. Organizations are asking how to make agents work securely, how to tap into data through offerings like Work IQ and MCP servers, and how to build governance that actually holds up. Attendees can expect deep dives into security, data extraction, Dataverse, Finance & Operations, and all the new features unveiled at Microsoft Ignite. “Everyone’s hearing agents, agents, agents,” he notes. “So, how do I get them to work?”
- Sessions designed for real adoption—not marketing fluff: This year’s call for speakers exploded from ~160 last year to over 500 submissions, giving planners a far stronger pool of practical, hands-on sessions. The programming committee prioritizes real-world implementations, lessons learned, and “the good, the bad, and the ugly” of AI projects. He stresses that this event is not a product-pitch environment. Instead, sessions will help attendees understand how to build, deploy, and scale agents across modern work, business apps, and development workflows. “We’re looking for empowering people,” Bensch says.
- Where strategy meets execution: Bensch explains that most attendees will fall somewhere between the starting line of AI adoption and mid-stage Copilot integration—but everyone is looking to connect the dots between strategy and execution. From governance to Dataverse to legacy-system integration via computer-use capabilities, sessions will show how companies can extend agent intelligence far beyond Q&A. The setting, including intimate sessions, world-class speakers, and networking events like golf and pickleball at Torrey Pines, creates space for candid, high-impact conversations attendees won’t find at massive trade shows.
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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I review the remarks and insights from CEO Marc Benioff and Salesforce from the recent Q3 earnings call.
Highlights
00:20 — After an approximately three-year hiatus, CEO Marc Benioff and Salesforce demonstrated their growth mojo through the Q3 numbers. While some of the numbers aren't quite as robust as they were in Salesforce's earlier days, in the earnings call, Benioff emphasized growth, innovation, and new things coming that are reflective of where the company was in the past.
01:07 — In its first 22 years, Salesforce had unprecedented growth — 20 years of 20% or higher growth. No other publicly traded company has done that. In the last few years, with some pressure from institutional investors, Salesforce had to shift its focus from growth and innovation to margins and profits. During this time, the character of the company has evolved, especially with the AI Revolution and the introduction of Agentforce.
01:55 — Something that struck me was the exuberance of CEO Marc Benioff on the call and his excitement about lots of numbers that indicated things are headed in the right direction. He shared details and commentary about their Q3 numbers as well as the vitality and energy around new products.
02:58 — Benioff was proud of the stats around Agentforce customers moving into production. The number of those was up 70% sequentially quarter to quarter. This demonstrates how quickly Agentforce customers are able to deploy the technology, get it into use, and start getting the essential business outcomes.
03:38 — This is important because the biggest winners are always the customers in the Cloud Wars because they get to benefit from the incredible competition. It further triggers waves of relentless innovation unlike anything the world has ever seen.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I discuss how Palantir’s latest customer wins reveal a shift from point solutions to end-to-end AI strategies.
Highlights
00:19 — Palantir's got a customer that, very shortly after signing a deal for a fairly limited AI engagement, said it wanted to go enterprise-wide with an investment that's up 8x over what the original one was. This signals where CEOs are driving these AI-centered business transformations to ensure that they go end-to-end here and have enhanced business outcomes as the goal.
01:21 — This medical device manufacturer CEO went to the Palantir executive team and said, “What would we need to do to make this an end-to-end business transformation powered by AI, designed to drive greater outcomes?” And very quickly, they rewrote the whole deal. So five months after this initial thing, they had a new deal going on — eight times bigger.
02:31 — So again, there we see this notion of Palantir doing some different things and engaging with customers in different ways. So, I think broadly what we're seeing here, overall, with these AI-centered business transformations is: time is the enemy — not your traditional competitors, not necessarily the new ones. It is this notion of time.
03:40 — If you're on the customer side here, I think you've got to look at this and take a hard view of what's going on inside your company. Is it a lot of these little disjointed trials that could have a nice little upward bump in efficiency or cost savings? Or are you shooting for the moon here?
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In today's Cloud Wars Agent and Copilot Minute, I unpack why Microsoft Copilot will no longer be available on WhatsApp starting January 15 and what users should do next.
Highlights
00:03 — Starting January 15, Microsoft Copilot will no longer be available to users via WhatsApp. This feature has been offered since 2024, but due to changes in WhatsApp platform policies — which include the removal of all LLM chatbots, Copilot users will need to access the assistant through alternative means.
00:30 — Unfortunately, because the version of Copilot used on WhatsApp is unauthenticated, it won't be possible to transfer chat history. Instead, users will need to manually export their conversations using WhatsApp’s exportation tools.
01:00 — Microsoft users who have grown accustomed to Copilot will now need to access the tool through Microsoft-controlled environments. In these settings, Microsoft can offer better functionality, enhanced security, and a wider range of use cases outside of a third-party platform.
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In this Cloud Wars Live podcast, Bob Evans sits down with Hayete Gallot, President, Google Cloud Customer Experience, to explore how Google Cloud is helping enterprises move from AI experimentation to true business transformation. Gallot describes how her organization unifies engineering, consulting, partners, and learning to accelerate time-to-value and scale agentic AI across every function. Together, they dive into Gemini Enterprise, customer successes like Virgin Voyages, and why human-centered change is the real key to AI’s future.
The AI Turning Point
The Big Themes:
- Customer Experience Built for the AI Era: Google Cloud created a new Customer Experience organization, led by Hayete Gallot, to match the speed and complexity of AI-driven transformation. Instead of treating AI as a pure technology play, the team unifies industry and solutions experts, customer engineers, consulting, partners, and learning into one group that supports the full innovation lifecycle. That means they can help customers go from idea to minimum viable product to production in a consistent, repeatable way.
- Ecosystem, Partners, and Curated AI Solutions: Google Cloud’s ecosystem strategy is central to scaling AI transformation. Gallot describes deep investment in system integrators — not just training them on technology, but sharing methodologies and scenario-based approaches so they can guide customers toward the right AI choices. At the same time, Google Cloud works with top ISVs to embed AI into their solutions and create compatible protocols for multi-agent experiences.
- Structuring Tech Teams for Agentic Transformation: AI’s rise is forcing technology organizations to evolve. Gallot notes that CTOs and CIOs are asking how to restructure their teams for an “agentic” world. The demand is no longer just for deep technical skills, but also people who understand user experience, behavior, and business workflows. Technology teams are increasingly expected to co-design scenarios with business leaders, not just implement requirements. Looking ahead to 2026, Gallot sees the priority as scaling agentic transformation across divisions.
The Big Quote: "Customers are much more mature on AI … When you meet with them, they're [asking] what's in it for me? What am I going to get? When am I going to get it? How do I scale this? They want production, and they want outcome."
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Key Takeaways
- Community involvement: Mary is a member of the programming committee board this year and will be attending the AI Agent & Copilot Summit, taking place from March 17th to 19th in San Diego, California. Working in the real estate industry, Mary acknowledges that, like individuals in all industries, there's a lot of AI transformations happening right now. "Being involved in this broader community is really exciting and energizing," she says.
- Summit expectations: She reports momentum as it gets closer to the event, like the number of responses to the call for speakers. "There's a big focus on real people figuring out and solving real problems with agents and Copilot," she notes. "Attendees can really expect a mix of hands-on learning and bigger picture conversations." Members of the community are curious, collaborative, and excited to share, so there's a lot for attendees to look forward to.
- Clear takeaways and diverse perspectives: Whether you're coming from a business team or a technical team, there's something that everyone can walk away with and implement, providing a "clarity of takeaways." The AI Agent & Copilot Summit also provides a "diversity of perspectives," which Mary considers to be very important. "I think we're looking for a mix of developers, business leaders, consultants, power users, and people who are just getting started to really get that diversity of thought and perspective."
- Overcoming challenges: One of the biggest challenges right now, Mary suggests, is the pressure to figure out how to adopt AI. Many leaders are looking to bridge the gaps between where to start, learning, and taking action. It's not just about teaching the tools or determining how to prompt better. "It's about shifting habits and thinking and mindsets," Mary says. "It's change management and how we make AI feel more approachable." Early adopters are able to pass on their experiences and accelerate the learning curve for attendees.
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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I explore how Salesforce’s acquisition of Informatica strengthens its foundation for delivering trustworthy, agentic AI.
Highlights
00:04 — A few years back, when I was covering the cloud data management firm Informatica on a regular basis, the rumor mill was rife with speculation that the company was set to be acquired by Salesforce. It didn’t happen right away, but ultimately, that’s what transpired.
00:22 — Now, Salesforce has announced that the acquisition is complete and Informatica is now part of the company — and it makes perfect sense. Informatica emerged as one of the most creative and forward-thinking cloud data management platforms out there.
00:39 — The company was quick to adopt generative AI with its CLAIRE GPT tool and soon embedded this enhanced functionality across its Intelligent Data Management Cloud, or IDMC. And now Salesforce has all of this capability within its own ecosystem, and it’s an enviable place to be.
00:59 — Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff has been quick to highlight how the integration of Informatica will benefit Salesforce customers in their agentic AI journey, saying: “You have to get your data right to get your AI right ... Informatica is the trusted platform that turns fragmented enterprise data into context so every agent can reason, act, and deliver outcomes with precision."
01:43 — Benioff is spot-on with that opening line: You have to get your data right to get your AI right. And with Informatica’s tech supporting a scalable data foundation, Salesforce is enabling just that. If, like Salesforce, you can provide not only the tools to develop an agentic AI ecosystem but also the data foundation to support it, you find yourself in a very strong position indeed.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I analyze why Workday’s $26B RPO signals strong future momentum in the face of SAP and Oracle.
Highlights
00:15 — Very nice Q3 that Workday recently finished here. Great revenue growth for the quarter ended October 31 — up 15% to about $2.25 billion. 17% growth for its total RPO, to about $8.2 billion. It's been cranking up the innovation engine there at Workday. Small AI-specific acquisitions over the last year or two have really been adding to this so customers have more to buy.
01:16 — CEO Carl Eschenbach made key points. Broadly, everybody sees the potential of AI, but he said most customers find they're stuck with fragmented systems. He said they have bad data, and he said they're not sure that they have the right platforms to work with. Workday believes that its AI solutions can come in and directly address all of those things.
02:00 — He said, "We want to be the new front door to work." He's bringing together three significant components to be able to do that. He said that's enterprise knowledge, a new generation of agents that address some of the most pressing business requirements, and also the HR and financial processes that Workday has helped customers to track for the last 20 years.
03:10 — It wants to be AI-first. With everything it's doing, it's making things as open as possible. It's trying to make things as simple for its customers as it can. These are important differentiators for Workday as it's up against two much larger competitors, SAP and Oracle. Its future pipeline is strong. Customer demand is there. Confidence is there.
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In this special Cloud Wars report, Bob Evans sits down with Michael Ameling, President and Chief Product Officer of SAP Business Technology Platform, for a deep dive into how SAP is helping customers navigate the fast-moving AI Era. Ameling and Evans discuss how SAP’s Business Data Cloud, partnerships with Snowflake and Databricks, HANA Cloud innovations, and new AI-powered tools and agents are helping SAP evolve from an applications powerhouse into a data-and-AI-driven business platform for the next generation.
SAP’s AI Data Future
The Big Themes:
- SAP HANA Cloud Becomes an AI-Optimized Database: SAP HANA Cloud is evolving into “the database AI was looking for." As a multi-model system supporting spatial, graph, vector, and document storage, HANA Cloud enables AI workloads to run more efficiently and contextually. Recent additions, like vector engines and Knowledge Graph capabilities, give customers powerful tools for retrieval-augmented generation (RAG), contextual reasoning, and advanced analytics.
- Developers Are 'The AI Revolution': Developers aren’t observing the AI Revolution, they are the revolution. With modern AI tools, developers can innovate faster, solve bigger problems, and directly influence business outcomes. SAP is investing heavily in meeting developers where they are by enhancing IDEs, building business-aware development tools, and providing context-rich assets such as APIs, business objects, and process insights. AI acts as a teammate, not a replacement.
- SAP: An Applications and a Data Company: SAP must be both an applications and a data company. Customer value emerges when applications, data, and AI converge seamlessly. SAP’s decades of industry expertise give it unparalleled business context, which becomes even more powerful when embedded into AI agents and data platforms. With more than 34,000 SAP HANA Cloud customers and rapidly expanding AI adoption, SAP is positioning itself as the platform where business process knowledge meets modern AI capability.
The Big Quote: " . . what we need to understand that AI is our teammate. It's like asking your best friend who has a lot of knowledge, but you can ask multiple friends at the same time. Not everything is always right, but you can ask questions, you can continuously improve. If we understand that pattern, we understand that AI helps us to solve much bigger problems as a developer, and then, of course, having much more impact on real business."
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- Information access: While many have Copilot licenses, usage is low beyond basic tasks like email and meeting summaries. The main challenge with adoption is providing guidance within apps like PowerPoint, Excel, Dynamics, and Word so users can access help exactly when they need it. This is something Rehmani's company, VisualSP, and his training platform, copilottrainingpackage.com, specialize in. "I'm a big proponent of giving people 'at the moment need' information," he notes.
- Training paths: Copilottrainingpackage.com enables users to go down different "training paths," explains Rehmani. Specifically, there are pre-built PowerPoint training modules covering key topics like prompt creation and preventing hallucinations. Additionally, there's learning management system (LMS)-ready video content on Copilot use cases in Word, Excel, and other tools for on-demand learning. Finally, the platform offers optional live training sessions for trainers and power users to ensure effective adoption and ROI from Copilot. "At the end of the day, it's all about making Copilot into ROI and not just an expense layer."
- What to expect: Rehmani describes the "anatomy" of the program. It uses seven modules to teach trainers and power users how to craft effective prompts, reduce Copilot errors, and apply specific workflows for high-impact ROI. Then, participants share this knowledge internally, enabling time savings and efficiency across their organizations.
- End-of-year pricing: Users can take advantage of this resource with special pricing through the end of the year. Users can purchase the standalone package for $4,950 or the package and live training for $8,950, all of which could be delivered in 2026, explains Rehmani.
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In today's Cloud Wars Agent and Copilot Minute, I break down why this Microsoft-Anthropic-NVIDIA trio, spotlighted at Microsoft Ignite, may define the next phase of the AI Revolution.
Highlights
00:19 — Today, I want focus on a particularly significant partnership involving not one but three partners, collaborating in multiple ways across various fronts. The companies are Microsoft, of course, Anthropic, and NVIDIA. The trio is set to establish new strategic partnerships that, in my view, truly optimize the unprecedented era of collaboration that we're in
01:02 — Anthropic has committed to a $30 billion deal to purchase Azure compute capacity. Microsoft customers will have access to Anthropic Claude Sonnet, 4.5; Claude Opus 4.1; and Claude Haiku 4.5 models. NVIDIA and Anthropic will collaborate on the design and development required to further optimize Anthropic AI models.
01:48 — In terms of hard-dollar investments in Anthropic, NVIDIA is committing up to $10 billion, while Microsoft is committing up to $5 billion. Now, I find this whole announcement particularly exciting. These two giants — Microsoft and NVIDIA — are directly investing in the technological and financial future of Anthropic. However, it's far from one-sided, as both are also selling their products to Anthropic.
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Key Takeaways
- Career journey and Microsoft involvement: While he's been in the industry for a long time, Accardi recounts being in the Microsoft arena for about 14 to 15 years. "My entire career has been around technology...and I have familiarity with various platforms," he notes. He has filled a range of roles, including sales leadership, marketing, product management, and more. Over the past several years, he has been "very heavily involved in the Microsoft alliance, their marketing, their programs, and most recently, leading for the last seven years in Microsoft practice."
- Technology evolution: With the impact of AI and evolving technologies, Accardi says this is "almost like history repeating itself...This is just another technology that's making our lives more efficient." Accepting change and new things is always difficult, regardless of what's at play. While initial AI adoption might have been moderate, it has really picked up over the last several months. Questions around AI outcomes have been top of mind lately.
- Where to start: It takes curiosity, creativity, and critical thinking to consider how to get started with a pilot and build from there. Accardi talks about the conversations they have with clients to determine what they want to accomplish and within what timeline. It's essential to understand what clients want to see their organization become, then find a pilot area to explore how it could work.
- The impact of AI: It's important to remember "AI isn't going to come in here and replace all of us, but it's really meant to make us more efficient." Although AI has introduced a fast pace of change, it's also been a fast pace of impact. AI can impact the whole organization, so stakeholders must all be involved. It can increase efficiency and productivity for clients in a major way.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I break down why Google Cloud’s new Gemini Enterprise may be Thomas Kurian’s most ambitious and most defining move yet.
Highlights
00:14 — One of the fastest-growing companies in the Cloud Wars Top 10 — and one that has been the most innovative, successful, and is definitely making a run at the number one spot — is Google Cloud. And I think that this week, as Thomas Kurian begins his eighth year as CEO of Google Cloud, he has recently pulled together what I'm calling his crowning achievement.
01:15 — It's what it's done here with Gemini Enterprise. I think it is the perfect fit to simplify and accelerate the journey into the cloud — or, I'm sorry, into AI, the AI economy — for their business customers. Gemini Enterprise says, “We can do the whole thing end-to-end ... But you're free to pick and choose any of the different pieces of it — bring in other vendors, other technologies."
02:13 — I think what they're doing here is saying, “We've taken care of the heavy lifting of the underlying technology, everything from the models to the platform to the developer tools to governance and security and privacy. You, the customer, can now focus on unleashing your people and their creativity to build on this platform to help drive those great business outcomes you want.”
03:03 — So, different companies at different points in their evolutions and transformations can pick what they want. The big thing: faster time to value, because it's ready to go out of the box. There’s not a lot of patchwork to be done now.
04:00 — Kurian has taken the best of the cloud with the best of AI, and offered them up to customers in a seamless package that delivers not just the underlying technology but this sense I talked about that they can move into this very exciting but also very different AI economy with a lot of confidence about where they're headed and what's going on.
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In today's Cloud Wars Agent and Copilot Minute, I look at how screen-aware Copilots, task-based agents, and multimodal interfaces are reshaping enterprise work — and why identity, permissions, and access guardrails now matter more than ever.
Highlights
00:30 — Two experts, Brian Madden, Vice President and Field Technology Officer and Futurist at Citrix, and Marco Casalaina, Vice President of Products, Core AI and an AI Futurist at Microsoft, hosted a session at this year's Microsoft Ignite conference titled “Develop Your Enterprise Playbook to Prepare for the AI of Tomorrow.”
00:58 — I want to share some key takeaways. Madden laid out a seven-stage roadmap for human–AI collaboration. Steps included simple prompt and paste, the first introduction to AI; next, AI as an analyst for colleagues; followed by AI watching your screen; AI using your computer for you; AI using your computer without you watching; multi-agent AI communication; and the final step: AI-orchestrated work.
01:55 — Ultimately, AI needs to work where human knowledge workers work, because the world we live in today is built for humans, and the way that AI will succeed is by operating within this user space and emulating humans in practice. Users talk to AI, and AI talks to the applications and workflows on behalf of the user.
02:34 — The discussion moved on to the notion of apps dissolving into data, ultimately AI talking directly to the data without going through an application. Casalaina demonstrated this by running Anthropic’s Claude on Azure and giving it the skills to create a PowerPoint. It did — without using PowerPoint. It made the slides in HTML and then converted them without ever opening the PowerPoint application.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I reveal how Palantir leapfrogged the competition with 63% cloud growth, shaking up the Cloud Wars Top 10.
Highlights
00:14 — Periodically, I do an update on what I call the Cloud Wars Growth Chart. The latest list shows that Palantir — new to the Cloud Wars Top 10 — is number one in fastest growth, by a long shot. Google Cloud, which for the last six quarters had been the fastest growing, is now in the number two spot. Oracle comes in at number three.
01:06 — So let’s see here: Palantir — look at this — 63% growth to $1.12 billion. Previous quarter growth rate: 48%. Pretty nice when you can go from 48% to 63% in a market like this. So the question is: What is Palantir doing that has allowed them to grow at these dramatically higher growth rates?
02:05 — Number two, Google Cloud. 34% growth to $15.2 billion. That’s an acceleration from the previous quarter’s 32% growth. The third: Oracle. 28% growth, $7.2 billion in cloud revenue — up from 27%. SAP grew 27% in Q3, $6.14 billion. Previously 28%. Then Microsoft grew 26% in cloud revenue to $49.1 billion for the quarter, down from the previous quarter’s growth rate of 27%.
03:07 — We saw growth throughout the Cloud Wars Top 10. Six of the nine that report their cloud revenue said that they are seeing accelerating growth from one quarter ago to their most recent quarter. So six out of nine growth rates going up, even as they're getting bigger. Now the outlier there is IBM, which does not break out its cloud revenue.
03:47 — The other big thing I see coming along is that we are moving into a place now where it’s becoming fuzzy between cloud and AI. Because cloud, after all, is the delivery vehicle that has made AI now something accessible to every individual in the world.
04:40 — So, we see these sort of intertwined, bonded pairs of cloud and AI. It’s been fascinating to watch this. And these growth rates show the market is getting hotter. These companies are growing faster — for the most part — remarkable. So, hats off to Palantir, Google Cloud, Oracle, and all the others on this list.
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In this episode of the AI Agent & Copilot Podcast, John Siefert is joined by Eric Newell, CEO, Stoneridge Software, while on-site at Community Summit North America 2025, which took place October 19-23. Newell shares his takeaways from the conference, and what he expects the future of AI adoption to look like over the next 12-18 months.
Key Takeaways
- Summit NA buzz: Newell notes the prominence of AI and agents at Summit NA 2025. More specifically, the CRM Product Roadmap session highlighted the transformative potential of agents, though he explains that many clients are unsure how to implement them and bridge the gap. Summit is a unique place that enables attendees to address pain points by connecting them with vendors and peers who offer practical solutions.
- Stoneridge Software's presence: During the event, the Stoneridge Software team was focused on supporting clients’ objectives through sessions and networking. The organization also participated in the GP to BC preconference, where the team is seeing "more movement in them going from GP to BC... helping them get there has been fun," he adds.
- Looking ahead: As referenced during the CRM Product Roadmap session, Newell suggests that a demo which showcased the integrated agents for customer service, including automated knowledge base creation, will accelerate CRM cloud adoption and significantly boost Microsoft’s future growth.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I discuss Workday's acquisition of the enterprise knowledge and learning platform provider Sana, and what it means for customers.
Highlights
0:05 — Now,the understanding of the capabilities of LLMs has seeped from discussions among in-the-know business leaders into the general public. Personally, I don't know anyone who hasn't tried ChatGPT at least once. However, when it comes to leveraging LLMs and their associated technologies in a business context, it all comes down to the data that you can provide.
0:34 — Essentially, it's about making internal knowledge useful. This combination of business data and LLMs is the golden ticket for companies that want to thrive in the AI Revolution. There are some standout examples of companies making that possible. One such company is Sana. Now, Workday has announced that it has completed its acquisition of Sana.
01:17 — Gerrit Kazmaier, President Product & Technology at Workday, explained: "By bringing Sana's leading enterprise knowledge and learning to Workday, we're creating a single intelligent interface...We're unlocking a new era of productivity, focus and flow across our customers, organizations with a complete AI solution for the next generation enterprise."
01:46 — Kazmaier is describing the combination of Sana's enterprise knowledge tools and Workday's unified cloud platform and formidable partner ecosystem. The vision is to create what Workday calls a "horizontal intelligence layer" across the enterprise. Within this layer, users will have access to deeply personalized experiences.
02:34 — Now, as I've discussed many times before, cutting through the noise to identify the specific features, capabilities, data, sources and outcomes that a user needs is essential for thriving in this increasingly competitive, AI-enabled business environment.
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In today's podcast, John Siefert sits down with Magnus Perri, CEO, elevaite365 Test Automation, and Michael Catterall, Product Lead, elevaite365 Test Automation, to unpack how AI is redefining testing in Dynamics 365 projects. They discuss why manual testing overwhelms business users, how elevaite365 Test Automation's platform automates and adapts with AI, and how a community-driven script library accelerates implementation. It's test automation built for real-world complexity and speed.
AI Testing, Real Results
The Big Themes:
- Testing Stress: Perri points out a systemic flaw in ERP and Dynamics 365 implementations: the burden of testing often lands on business users whose primary roles have nothing to do with quality assurance. This leads to rushed efforts, incomplete coverage, and high error rates. The fundamental issue isn’t lack of diligence, it’s misalignment. Elevaite365 Test Automation directly addresses this by reducing or eliminating the need for manual testing.
- Insight and Resilience Layers: Catterall describes how elevaite365 Test Automation's platform doesn’t just mimic human testers, it enhances them. Once a user records a business process, the system converts it into a reusable, repeatable automated test. But what sets elevaite365 Test Automation apart is what happens next: It adds AI-powered layers that detect anomalies like incorrect field values, unexpected pop-ups, and subtle error messages that human testers often miss. This isn’t basic scripting, it’s intelligent validation that keeps evolving.
- AI Testing Brings Measurable ROI: While much of the conversation covered process pain and automation theory, the real value becomes evident in customer results. Elevaite365 Test Automation isn’t just a nice-to-have, it delivers real ROI. Customers using the platform have reduced their testing cycles from weeks to hours, lowered defect rates in production, and significantly cut the manpower required for UAT (User Acceptance Testing). Because the tool is embedded in real Dynamics 365 workflows, it provides test coverage for processes that actually matter like purchasing, invoicing, inventory, and more.
The Big Quote: "Testing is always falling onto the business users, not IT department ... so you go into testing and you're stressed, you have a lot to do. You're thinking about talking to the next supplier, and while you're doing that, you work through the testing as fast as you can, and you might miss stuff."
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explore how tech rivals are becoming collaborators to better serve customer innovation.
Highlights
00:43 — I call SAP and Snowflake's recent announcement a promiscuous partnership that's powerful and promising. I'll try not to trip over too many more P’s here, but I think the point of this is we're seeing the promiscuous side: big tech companies that, you know, were very selective about how they worked with each other in the past.
01:04 — I think now we're seeing that there are great advantages toward them aligning in ways — working together to do things for customers that neither could do individually. I think the ultimate example of this is the Oracle multicloud deals with Microsoft, Google Cloud, and AWS. So, in this case here, now we see both SAP and Snowflake are in the data cloud space.
02:04 — This could have been a situation where SAP and Snowflake might have said: "I have a Data Cloud. You have one. We're going to compete" — but the result would be — “We’re going to make customers’ lives more miserable, because to work with both the SAP Data Cloud and the Snowflake Data Cloud, those customers are going to have to find workarounds and ways to integrate and all that.” Instead, they said, “Let's try to do this together.”
03:00 — Some highlights: it accelerates customer innovation because they can spend more time focusing on business innovation, growth, and new business models, rather than a lot of expense on integration. The two companies, Snowflake and SAP, have intertwined their brands, which I think reveals to customers a very powerful commitment. This solution is called SAP Snowflake.
03:55 — The AI revolution has put all sorts of new and interesting, challenging stresses on customers, right? And on the Cloud Wars Top 10 vendors: it can't just be business as usual for customers. The tech vendors have to operate differently — not just in the products they create but in the alliances they strike.
04:46 — I tip my hat to Snowflake and SAP, and I think we're going to be seeing lots more of these promiscuous partnerships break out as the needs of the AI Revolution require customers to do things differently — which, in turn, compels the Cloud Wars Top 10 companies to behave in different ways.
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In this episode of the AI Agent & Copilot Podcast, John Siefert hosts Jeff Miller, Vice President, Americas, LS Retail, for a discussion on LS Retail's position in its industry, how it supports organizations across the globe, integrating AI, and upcoming projects.
Key Takeaways
- About the company: LS Retail has been a leader in its industry from an ISV perspective. The company has been in the ecosystem for about 30 years, focusing on software development in the retail market. There are over 110,000 retail locations using LS Retail in their stores. "We come to a market with what we call 'composable solution,' so I can build building blocks, depending on a retailer's need, that can do everything from run the entire enterprise of a retail business, simply down to a point-of-sale solution that integrates into the rest of the retailer solution stack," Miller explains.
- Global use: One of LS Retail's specialties is creating the localization and fiscalizations that organizations need to operate across different countries. Every country manages aspects of business, like taxes, a little bit differently. Between LS Retail and its partners, they have done the work to make sure it operates in a way that companies conducting business in various countries can use the software in their stores around the world. Deploying in the Microsoft Cloud with Azure enables them to implement the software seamlessly.
- Partner network: Operating at a global scale also speaks to the power of LS Retail's business partner network. It has over 300 business partners globally who go through certification testing so they have a technical understanding of how to implement the software and support clients in their local communities.
- AI integration: "We really take in the whole idea of customer zero and being a frontier firm to heart," Miller says. Within LS Retail, there has been an emphasis on using Copilot and Copilot Studio not only from a development standpoint but also for automating the testing of code. Externally, LS Retail is part of Microsoft's program, "The Microsoft Red Carpet Club." They have been meeting to discuss ideas around agents and providing feedback to Microsoft about the future of products and code, as well as how it integrates with Dynamics products.
- Pharmacy agent: LS Retail recently announced a project at an event. One of the agents it has developed supports pharmacies in Europe. The company is working on co-innovation projects with pharmacy clients to develop an agent that manages tasks for them, like handling prescriptions and refills. LS Retail is looking at opportunities to expand this particular agent in Latin America as well.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I take you inside Palantir’s wildly different approach to driving customer growth.
Highlights
00:14 — One of the companies causing a lot of disruption within the Cloud Wars Top 10 companies is Palantir, which recently reported its Q3 revenue up 63% to $1.12 billion, just growing incredibly fast and putting together a remarkable set of customers and customer references for what they’ve been able to do with Palantir. And I think this speaks to a very, very different approach Palantir is taking.
01:42 — So I had a great chat with Palantir Architect Chad Wahlquist. Palantir has an unusual way of setting titles in the company. They often are untraditional. Chad does much more than being an architect. He’s a great architect, but does much more than product strategy, marketing, and so on. We are linking here in the show notes to that full video with Chad.
02:09 — We talked about a lot of things. Interesting that as Palantir went through this extraordinary growth, its salesforce shrank. It said that’s because it uses its own software to do things. What it calls “quantified exceptionalism” — how do you break through in a quantifiable way to do things that others aren’t able to do? — is something they want to prove inside, then project outwardly.
03:19 — Chad said: "It’s great that our number of customers is growing. That’s not our goal. Our primary goal is to see growth within our customers in terms of their business outcomes, their capabilities, their quantifiable outcomes." And he talked a lot about their ambition. He believes that Palantir software gives enterprises the ability to do things beyond what they thought were possible.
04:28 — Final big point from Chad Wahlquist is that point solutions allow companies to optimize locally, and he said that can be a nice thing; it leads to small returns or small positive outcomes. He said: "Our goal with Palantir and our Artificial Intelligence Platform (AIP) is to help our customers drive global optimization."
- Check out my full-length interview with Chad Wahlquist.
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In this special episode of Cloud Wars Live, Bob Evans speaks with Chad Wahlquist, Architect at Palantir, about the company’s explosive Q3 growth and the accelerating adoption of its AI Platform (AIP). They explore how AIP serves as an operating system for the enterprise, enabling customers to achieve global optimization, faster ROI, and model flexibility. Wahlquist also talks about Palantir’s open, interoperable architecture and its commitment to delivering value at speed, especially for customers in high-stakes, high-pressure environments.
Operate Smarter, Not Slower
The Big Themes:
- Speed to Value: Many companies still operate under the assumption that meaningful transformation requires multi‑year timelines (two to three years, sometimes more). Palantir is pushing the idea that you must deliver value in months, three to six months, rather than years. This shift is critical because when business markets move fast, and when competitive advantage erodes quickly, speed becomes a differentiator. If you wait for years, you may miss the window or be out‑paced.
- Interoperability and Ecosystem Integration: The platform isn’t trying to lock you into a “box” you must keep your data in; it instead emphasizes plug‑in interoperability with systems you already have. Wahlquist mentions connectors, SDKs, APIs, and plug‑ins to partners like Snowflake, Databricks, SAP, NVIDIA. The concept: if you already have investment in some systems, don’t throw them away; just connect them. This increases the speed to value and reduces friction.
- Ambition, Willingness to Operate in Crisis: Wahlquist points out they often engage with customers who are under pressure. These customers need value now, not two or three years out. Situations like supply chain disruption, plant outages, labor issues, etc., are real. This situational urgency forces companies to adopt architectures and partners that can deliver now. The takeaway: It’s not enough to believe you’ll transform in the future; transformation architecture must be built for today’s fires.
The Big Quote: “Our goal is really: how do we scale our customers and the outcomes they’re delivering — not just the number of customers?"
More from Chad and Palantir:
Follow Chad on LinkedIn or get an overview of Palantir's Q3 in its letter to shareholders.
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In today's Cloud Wars Agent and Copilot Minute, I look at how Copilot’s smarter search experience supports users, respects content creators, and strengthens the web.
Highlights
00:12 — Microsoft has announced that it's bringing the best of AI search to Copilot, along with a dedicated Copilot search experience. In practice, this means that responses from Copilot will include, as Microsoft describes it, more prominent clickable citations and the option to see aggregated sources. The aim is to align more closely with Microsoft's human-first approach.
00:48 — A blog post written by the Copilot team reads as follows: "We've optimized Bing's powerful search capabilities and utilized Copilot's intelligence to deliver greater control and transparency to everyday interactions with your AI companion." Additionally, this feature will provide direct links to complex queries.
01:42 —Microsoft says it's implemented these updates with publishers and content owners in mind to support what it describes as a healthy web ecosystem. Not only is Microsoft introducing greater transparency to Copilot search, but it's also adding additional familiar processes to ensure that both new and experienced users can more effortlessly use Copilot to access the information they need.
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In this episode of the AI Agent & Copilot Podcast, John Siefert is joined by Stijn Geeroms, Vice President Business Solutions, Cegeka, for a conversation on Cegeka being named Microsoft's Partner of the Year for supply chain.
Key Takeaways
- About the company: Cegeka is a global IT company headquartered in Belgium. It has around 10,000 professionals across Europe and North America. Geeroms describes Cegeka as a "Microsoft-first partner," as it offers solutions for the various Microsoft solution areas. The company also specializes in a number of industries. "We're very proud to also be recognized by Microsoft on our journey," he says.
- Key efforts and vertical industries: Since the start, Cegeka has been focusing on manufacturing. More specifically, it has honed in on process manufacturing. When saying they "focus efforts" in a particular area, Geeroms clarifies that this refers to four layers: added capabilities, pre-configuration, understanding industries, and agents. Before the introduction of AI, Geeroms notes, "We might have said that ERP might break productivity, but it was mainly streamlining their processes and giving them insight." But now, it's bringing new opportunities for productivity with Microsoft solutions.
- Customer example: Cegeka recently went live with a large pharma customer. "We went live in almost nine months, which I think, for that industry, is very fast and a broad scope," Geeroms explains. It involves planning, warehousing, sales, procurement, and more. Because they focus on pre-configuration, they were able to accelerate the adoption and validation processes required for that industry. Now, Cegeka is working with that customer on implementing agents and automation to make the platform more efficient.
- Market demands: The rapid transformation that Cegeka was able to do with that customer demonstrates the pace of change as well as the pace of innovation that AI is bringing. "They demand from us a solution fitting to their requirements as fast as possible...Once they're on it, they're continuously thinking of improvement on optimization," he says. This is what the market is demanding. "It's no longer a one-shot; it's like a life method."
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I take a look at how Oracle’s bold multicloud partnerships — with Microsoft, AWS, and Google Cloud.
Highlights
00:15 — One of the ways in which Oracle has been distinguishing itself is not just with its new technology, but with interesting go-to-market approaches. Now, Ellison recently said that while Oracle's multicloud business, where its three competitors, Microsoft, AWS, and Google Cloud, all offer the Oracle Database to their customers, that revenue was up over 1,500%.
01:11 — He said so far, almost all of that growth has been generated by the Microsoft partnership because it was the first to come on board. Ellison believes that as the AWS partnership and Google get up to speed — and they get all the infrastructure set up to support that — you’d think that's going to drive a new round of growth for the Oracle Database business.
02:12 — Can the Oracle Database hit $20 billion in revenue in five years? Ellison seemed bullish on that. One reason is the new Oracle AI Database, purpose-built for the AI Revolution. Second is these multicloud partnerships. There's such a demand among customers who have wanted the Oracle Database but have felt trapped using Microsoft Azure, AWS, or Google Cloud.
03:15 — The AI reasoning, which Ellison was calling it, also known as inferencing, is something a lot of companies are going to be doing when they take these new tools and say, “How do I suit this for my retail company or my clothing company or my trucking company?” That's where, Ellison said, everybody’s going to want to do this. He sees massive demand for it.
04:32 — In a full-length article that I have today on CloudWars.com, I offer four specific points on why this approach that Ellison led with Oracle — and that the others fully agreed to — is so important. It’s a great trend moving forward in the direction of more capability, more choice, more power in the hands of customers here in the buyer-seller equation.
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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I delve into OpenAI’s $38 billion partnership with AWS, giving Amazon a major role in powering and scaling OpenAI’s AI workloads.
Highlights
0:03 — OpenAI and AWS have announced a multi‑year strategic partnership valued at $38 billion for AWS. This deal will enable AWS to provide the infrastructure necessary to support the operation and scaling of OpenAI’s AI workloads. OpenAI is currently utilising computing resources through AWS, which include hundreds of thousands of NVIDIA GPUs and the capability to scale up to tens of millions of CPUs.
01:02 — The infrastructure rollout for OpenAI includes architecture optimised for maximum AI processing efficiency and performance, with clusters designed to support a variety of workloads such as inference for ChatGPT and model training. This latest deal is yet another staggering example of the demand for AI services — a demand that companies like OpenAI must invest billions in to keep up with the pace.
01:55 — OpenAI recently signed several significant deals with technology partners, including a remarkable $300 billion agreement with Oracle. While that figure might seem outrageous, it puts the $38 billion into a more relatable context. One thing is clear: wherever you stand in the AI revolution, whatever your role is — just make sure that you have one, because this unprecedented growth is touching every corner of the business world.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I dig into why Google Cloud’s momentum in AI-centric deals is reshaping the entire cloud landscape.
Highlights
00:30 — A few major things became evident from Google Cloud's third-quarter results from late last month. One, if you look at the giant deals Google Cloud signed in the first three quarters of 2025, it inked more billion-dollar-plus deals than it did in all of 2023 and 2024 combined. The pace of these huge investments by businesses is accelerating.
01:05 — Alphabet CEO Sundar Pichai expressed excitement that enterprise AI is now becoming a huge factor of these massive deals. In just three quarters, Google Cloud signed more billion-dollar deals than in the previous eight combined. Seventy percent of all Google Cloud customers are now purchasing the company’s AI products and services. Another indicator of momentum is its backlog.
02:25 — Pichai also said that Google Cloud now has 13 products with annualized revenue run rates exceeding $1 billion. He emphasized the company's diversification and scaling of its product line, many of which are tied to enterprise AI. Gemini Enterprise has already been adopted by over 700 customers and deployed across more than two million seats.
03:36 —Over the last two years, Google Cloud has been the fastest-growing player in theCloud Wars Top 10. I’ll go into more detail in an article later this morning, but it’s worth noting that Google Cloud’s reign as the number one fastest-growing company is about to end. That’s because Palantir, a new entrant into the Top 10, posted an eye-popping 63% revenue growth in Q3.
04:15 — Still, if you set aside the outlier of Palantir, Google Cloud remains the fastest-growing among the rest. It's executing well, with lots of momentum. The backlog data underscores that this isn't just about past performance — it’s a forward-looking indicator that their pipeline is incredibly strong. So, hats off to Google Cloud for doing a great job.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I call out AWS’s slowdown in both innovation and momentum, as the rest of the hyperscalers redefine the future of cloud.
Highlights
00:15 — Now it's been interesting here as we watch the four hyperscalers recently, Microsoft, AWS, Google Cloud, and Oracle. We hear that cliche about a rising tide lifts all boats. And I would say that AWS is definitely the one of the four hyperscalers that is rising less slowly, less quickly, and to not as great a height.
01:08 — AWS is the company that created the cloud infrastructure business, and for most of those 19 years, AWS deserved to be called the King of the Cloud. But a few years ago, Microsoft's cloud, Azure, became, you know, quite prominent. Google Cloud started to innovate wildly. Oracle has been on fire. AWS lost the role, the opportunity, the swagger of being the leader
02:16 — It is now the follower. AWS is not the innovator, either in technology or in go-to-market ways, and these financial results prove that they certainly had a very nice Q3. You can't just bring metrics or comparative performance from other industries and apply it to the Cloud Wars. Those numbers that AWS put up were just not anywhere close to as good as those of its competitors.
03:36 — So, in either of those cases, AWS is being dramatically outgrown by the other three hyperscalers. There's just no way around it, and in a detailed article that I'll have on cloudwars.com later today, I lay that out both for the quarterly numbers and the latest RPO and backlog figures.
04:23 — And in the AI Revolution, these four companies are in large part helping the entire global economy to establish, "How am I going to move forward? What am I going to need to do?" The other three have all stolen the jump on AWS and become much more dynamic, and that's revealed in the customer demand, expressed as quarterly revenue and also going forward as RPO or backlog.
05:28 — What we're seeing here is the fact that this, this notion of innovation, of, you know, relentless performance, relentless excellence, relentless progress. It can be brutal at times. And while AWS is a big, successful company, is going to be around for a long time, the numbers are showing it is no longer anywhere close to the leader.
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In this episode of Cloud Wars Live, Bob Evans speaks with T.K. Anand, Executive Vice President at Oracle, during Oracle AI World in Las Vegas. The discussion centers on Oracle’s new AI Data Platform, a major initiative designed to help customers harness their own data to drive AI transformation. Anand outlines how Oracle’s open, unified approach to managing enterprise data enables organizations to bring AI directly to their business processes, while also citing breakthrough developments in industry-specific applications.
Reinventing with AI
The Big Themes:
- Data + AI = Business Reinvention: Enterprises cannot simply adopt AI as a bolt‑on; they must combine their private business data — workflows, applications, processes — with advanced models if they hope to reinvent themselves ahead of disruption. Anand notes that many AI/LLMs have been trained on public domain data and thus “know nothing about our customers’ private data.” The AI Data Platform is designed to enable that union.
- Pre‑integrated with SaaS Applications: For customers of Oracle’s large SaaS portfolio (e.g., Fusion, NetSuite, industry apps) the AI Data Platform offers tailored variants that are pre‑integrated with the application’s data models and semantics. This means organizations get out‑of‑the-box predictive models, analytics, and agents aligned to their workflows, but still have the full platform underneath to extend or customize. This helps reduce time‑to‑value for companies using those applications.
- Full Stack Advantage: Oracle positions its differentiator as owning and integrating the full stack: cloud infrastructure (OCI including autonomous database), data and analytics platform, applications (SaaS) and now AI/agents. This end‑to‑end control enables closer integration between data assets, applications, and AI use cases. For example, having application workflow knowledge baked into the data platform allows faster mapping from business process to predictive agent.
The Big Quote: “The AI Platform is all about helping our customers achieve AI transformation through the power of their own data."
More from T.K. Anand and Oracle:
Connect with T.K. Anand on LinkedIn or get an overview of Oracle AI Data Platform.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explore Workday’s latest move to deepen AI’s role in enterprise operations.
Highlights
00:03 — Workday has announced its new Custom AI Model Library for the Workday Contract Intelligence Agent, powered by Evisort. The library includes over 120 pre-built AI models designed to identify critical clauses, risks, line items, and terms within contracts. The goal is to give users specialized models that speed up contract review, detect risks earlier, and reduce manual work.
00:40 — The addition of the Custom AI Model Library expands the range of contract terms users can automatically analyze. Jerry Ting, Vice President and Head of Agentic AI and Evisort at Workday, said: “We aren’t just adding features; we’re giving our Contract Intelligence Agent new skills that help solve real business problems.”
01:29 —What stands out about this announcement is how Workday is operationalizing AI within enterprise contract management: moving beyond standard automation toward domain-specific, customizable intelligence. This is a key differentiator, and one every company in the agentic AI space should aim for.
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Hasan Rizvi, EVP, Database Engineering, Oracle, talks to Bob Evans in this latest episode of Cloud Wars Live. They explore the launch of Oracle AI Database 26ai, the Autonomous AI Lakehouse, and breakthroughs in multi-cloud deployment. Rizvi also discusses vector search, agentic AI, and how Oracle is simplifying complex architectures for the AI era. It’s a compelling look at how Oracle is reshaping enterprise data strategy for the age of AI.
Oracle’s Next-Gen Data Strategy
The Big Themes:
- AI Demands a Modern Data Foundation: As AI shifts operations from human scale to machine speed, enterprises must ask: “Is my data foundation ready?” Without intelligent data structures, comprehensive access, real‑time performance, and strong security, organizations will struggle to compete. The introduction of Oracle AI Database 26ai is positioned as that foundation. The urgency of this shift is clear: companies that delay risk being left behind.
- Agentic AI and Vectors Come to the Enterprise Database: Generative AI and autonomous agents require new data types and workflows. Oracle has built vector data types and vector indexes into the database so enterprises can perform similarity search, retrieval‑augmented generation (RAG) and agent workflows directly on their private data. Further, Oracle is enabling annotations (metadata) so LLMs can understand enterprise data schemas, improving accuracy. Finally, agentic workflows (AI that takes action) are supported within the database, reducing data movement, improving performance and strengthening security.
- Start‑Ups and Established Enterprises Both Benefit: The case study of Retraced (a fashion supply‑chain company) underscores how smaller, agile firms are using Oracle’s autonomous AI database to innovate quickly: multi‑datatype support, agentic AI, automatic scaling, and reduced operational overhead. At the same time, Oracle’s heritage in mission‑critical enterprise systems means large companies with massive workloads benefit from the same platform. The point: whether you’re a start‑up or a Fortune 500, the difference will be how fast you move.
The Big Quote: “We really believe that in in the age of AI, where you have to move much faster, you really don't have a choice but to start simplifying your environment. Otherwise, you're going to get left behind."
More from Hasan Rizvi and Oracle:
Connect with Hasan on LinkedIn and learn more about Oracle AI Database 26ai.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I spotlight Palantir’s stunning 63% revenue surge and its defiant, rule-breaking vision for the AI Era.
Highlights
00:30 — Palantir, earlier this week, reported its Q3 numbers, and they were absolutely extraordinary. I thought the only thing that matched the blowout numbers that Palantir had was the perspective and philosophy revealed in the Q3 earnings call from CEO Alexander Karp. I want to talk about that in just a minute.
01:23 —You hear talk around the industry, people saying, “Well, what is Palantir? Are they an apps company? Are they an analytics company? Are they a data company? Are they an AI company? Are they a database company? Are they, you know, this or that?” Palantir absolutely defies any easy positioning or being put in a particular box or category. It is all of those things.
02:26 — Its revenue for Q3, ending September 30, was up 63% — almost $1.2 billion. It had projected growth for Q3 of about 51% and blew that number away. Within that, its U.S. commercial business is now by far the fastest-growing part of its company. Remarkable growth there of 121% in Q3 to almost $400 million. The U.S. government business was up 52% to $486 million.
03:42 — Palantir signed new deals totaling $2.8 billion in contract value. That new business alone is an indication that this is not a blip. Some people talk about an AI bubble. Karp said, “The bubble exists only for companies that are not really trying to impart enduring value.” Of that $2.8 billion, there were 93 deals signed in the quarter for $5 million or more, and 51 deals for $10 million or more.
04:14 — A big point that Karp made is that as the company gains more visibility, it’s important that: “We are always at the toughest and most complex part of our customers’ technology stacks, because with AI, that’s the only way we can impart real value for those customers and unlock for them the ability to become truly transformed companies in the AI revolution.” He speaks like no other CEO I’ve been around.
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In today's Cloud Wars Live, Mahesh Thiagarajan, EVP, Oracle Cloud Infrastructure, speaks with Bob Evans about Oracle’s bold strategy to lead in the AI infrastructure race. He details how Oracle is scaling zeta-level compute, launching a 1.5 gigawatt GPU campus, and engineering full-stack solutions that combine bare-metal hardware, custom networking, and advanced software. With OCI’s rapid innovation and massive scale, Oracle is positioning itself as a serious challenger to cloud incumbents like AWS, Microsoft, and Google Cloud.
Scaling AI at Oracle
The Big Themes:
- Enterprise Data Continuity and Cloud Strategy: Enterprises rely on mission-critical data, such as databases, and migrating that data to the cloud remains a major strategic priority. The challenge isn’t simply moving data: It’s building a cloud platform that delivers real value to customers. As Thiagarajan and his team began developing Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to support these needs, they focused on core fundamentals: performance, cost efficiency, and security. This illustrates that for today’s cloud providers, success isn’t just about innovative features, but about engineering deep, resilient infrastructure.
- Customer‑First Execution: Thiagarajan repeatedly states there is no perfect playbook. The approach: wake up every day, talk to partners, figure out what customers need and execute. This mindset emphasises responsiveness and pragmatism. Given the rapid pace of change in cloud and AI, large providers cannot wait for general frameworks to emerge. They must iterate, partner, and build in real time.
- “Late” As An Advantage: Thiagarajan observes that arriving in cloud later gave Oracle the ability to learn from first movers’ mistakes and benefit from newer hardware generations without legacy baggage. While first movers often carry large legacy systems, later entrants can design for new architectures (bare‑metal, custom networking) from the ground up. That doesn’t guarantee success but presents an advantage if leveraged.
The Big Quote: “You earn trust with [partners] by getting their products out to market fast into the hands of the customers, because that really translates to them, the end customer, being happy."
More from Mahesh Thiagarajan and Oracle:
Connect with Mahesh Thiagarajan on LinkedIn or take a look at his Oracle blog posts.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I take a look at Microsoft’s newest Copilot feature that lets users type to Vision instead of relying solely on voice.
Highlights
00:10 — Microsoft has rolled out a new update for the Microsoft Copilot app on Windows for Windows Insiders. This update allows users to interact with Copilot Vision using text inputs, and Copilot will respond, in turn, with text outputs in the same chat window. Previously, interactions with Copilot Vision were only possible through voice commands.
00:50 — Microsoft has been rolling out new Copilot features rapidly in recent months. Vision allows you to interact with the AI assistant, Copilot, to answer questions about what's displayed on your screen or captured by your mobile camera feed. There’s been a significant push from Microsoft to make Copilot a voice-first AI tool.
01:29 — Ultimately, this approach lowers the barrier to entry for users by removing the complexity associated with engaging with Copilot solely through text inputs. However, consumers will always desire choice, and this addition to Copilot’s capabilities is a positive step for Microsoft.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I take a look at how Oracle and Google Cloud are surging past Microsoft and AWS in RPO and backlog growth
Highlights
00:13 — There’s no question that 10, 12, 15 years ago, it was AWS and Microsoft that set the rules for cloud infrastructure. Google Cloud and Oracle, both of them, while much smaller in revenue than AWS and Microsoft, are growing much faster. My conclusion here is that Oracle and Google Cloud are roaring past Microsoft and AWS in RPO and backlog growth. Let me show you what I mean.
01:14 — Oracle, Google Cloud, Microsoft, AWS. I’ve got two sets of growth rates here. This first one looks sequentially — Q3 RPO growth versus total Q2 revenue — and what the growth rate is. Oracle: $455 billion RPO. It grew sequentially from their last quarter to this quarter — its RPO went up 43%. Google Cloud: $155 billion. From last quarter’s number to this quarter, its RPO growth rate was up 46%.
02:17 — Microsoft: $392 billion, huge number, but its RPO grew just 6.5%. Looks weak compared to the others, but then there’s AWS — $200 billion RPO for the quarter ended September 30. That’s an RPO growth of only 2.5%. So, we have these two high-flyers in the hyper-growth category, mid-40s, and the two big traditional cloud infrastructure vendors growing in single digits.
03:15 — RPO growth rates on an annual basis, year over year. Oracle’s up 359%. Google Cloud: huge jump here, 82% growth in their backlog year over year. Microsoft: very nice, 51% year over year. But if you look at the most recent number, it’s 6.5%. AWS — I can’t give you an annual growth number because a year ago AWS was not releasing its backlog numbers. In Q2, it was $195 billion.
04:03 — So, they went up $5 billion to $200 billion, and that’s why they had that small growth number. Now we all know those lines about “there are three kinds of lies — lies, damned lies, and statistics.” So, somebody might think I’m spinning a tale and fibbing or lying about these numbers, but the numbers themselves do not lie, and what they’re clearly showing is that Google Cloud and Oracle are doing new sorts of things.
04:46 — They're appealing to the new needs, demands, and requirements customers have, and it’s being reflected in the growth — not only their higher revenue growth rates, which reflect the past, but also their RPO or backlog growth rates, which reflect and look into the future.
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Juan Loaiza is the EVP of Database Technologies at Oracle. In today's special episode of Cloud Wars Live, Loaiza joins Bob Evans to discuss how AI is transforming the way businesses interact with data. He spotlights Oracle’s new AI-native database, the importance of trust and security in enterprise AI, and why business users now play a bigger role in data strategy. It’s a revealing look at how Oracle is shaping the future of intelligent data systems.
The AI Data Revolution
The Big Themes:
- Trust, Governance, and Privacy Must Be Built Into the AI‑Data Stack: One of the strongest points made by Loaiza is about the risk of AI in enterprises: hallucinations, mis‑use of data, privacy violations, regulatory consequences. When mission‑critical systems (hospitals, banks, telecoms) are involved, errors are unacceptable and can be illegal. Oracle’s approach is to embed privacy and access controls down into the database engine: the system knows who the end user is, what they can see, and ensures AI cannot leak unauthorized data.
- Multi‑Cloud, On‑Premises, Hybrid — Customers Want Flexibility: Loaiza describes how Oracle is enabling customers to run their database and AI workloads wherever they need: on‑premises, in public clouds (AWS, Azure, Google Cloud), or via “cloud at your data center” options like Exadata Cloud@Customer. This speaks to regulatory, latency, data sovereignty and operational constraints. For enterprises, the takeaway is that deployment flexibility is essential. A one‑size‑fits‑all cloud model may not meet strategic needs.
- Business Users and Developers Now Have Voices in Database Strategy: Historically, databases were the domain of DBAs, IT operations, and infrastructure teams. Now business users and developers also have meaningful voices because of AI democratizing access. This shift means organizational structures, roles and processes must change. Data governance, training, tool‑selection and deployment pipelines need to reflect that the “consumer” of the database is broader.
The Big Quote: “[AI] can translate English to this language of computers, the language of data, which is SQL. So, what that means is you don't have to learn this crazy language anymore. So pretty much anyone, business people, lay people, can now talk using their normal natural language to the database, and the database will understand what they're saying and give them answers, build applications to all these and this is something I honestly never thought I'd see in my entire life, and it's here today."
More from Juan Loaiza and Oracle:
Follow Juan on LinkedIn or learn more about Oracle's approach to security.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I look at the shift in enterprise preference from Microsoft to Google Cloud.
Highlights
00:15 — The three original hyperscalers all released numbers for Q3 last year. Each should be proud, but Google Cloud stood out in a significant way. Its Q3 revenue is up 34% to $15.2 billion. Its Q2 growth had been 32%, so, accelerating here. Mid-year, it said its CapEx would be $75 billion for all of 2025. A few months ago, it said, “Now we’re going to have to make it $85 billion..."
01:38 — Now it's saying it’s going to be somewhere between $91 and $93 billion for this year. If you take the three hyperscalers in their Q3 performance here: $49.1 billion for Microsoft, up 26%, , terrific results. AWS, $33 billion; that was up 20%, so accelerating from Q2’s 17.5% — very nice. And then Google Cloud, $15.2 billion, as I mentioned, up 34%.
02:39 — AWS and Microsoft are much larger than Google Cloud. Regarding new business Microsoft added $2.4 billion, AWS $2.1 billion, and Google Cloud $1.6 billion. So how does that play out? Well, of the $6.1 billion in incremental new revenue, Q3 over Q2, Microsoft got 39.3%, AWS, 34.4%, and Google Cloud,26.2%. So, for Google Cloud, 15.6% overall, but 26.2% of the new business.
03:47 — My point here is that some previous long-range contracts that these companies have been winning have positioned AWS and Microsoft as much larger than Google Cloud; they’ve earned that. But looking forward here, in the early days of the AI Revolution, Google Cloud is gaining a disproportionate share of new business based on its size relative to AWS and Microsoft.
04:44 — But I think the interesting thing here is to say, of the new business and looking forward, who’s winning this stuff — sort of right here, right now — forgetting the size disparities that have been up in the past. And Google Cloud, on that front, is looking very good.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I unpack how Microsoft is empowering business users with new Copilot agents that simplify app creation and workflow automation — no coding needed.
Highlights
00:11 — Microsoft has launched a series of new agents for Microsoft 365 Copilot customers in the Frontier Program: App Builder and Workflows, designed to accelerate the creation of AI-driven apps and workflows. These agents make it incredibly easy for general business users to utilize natural language in order to create apps, workflows, and even additional agents.
00:46 — The Workflows agent allows users to automate tasks such as email, mail apps, and calendar management across Outlook, Teams, SharePoint, Planner, and other services like Approvals. Steps of the automation are displayed in real time and follow the same Copilot conversation, making it easy to add more or edit existing workflow steps.
01:24 — In a blog post, Charles Lamanna, President of Business and Industry Copilot at Microsoft, outlined a use case for these new agents: "Imagine you're preparing for a product launch with a few multi-turn interactions. Create an app for a product launch process where teams can track launch milestones, assign tasks, and view campaign progress in a dashboard."
01:37 — "Send a Teams update every Monday with upcoming launch deadlines and key tasks from Planner. Post reminders for approval deadlines in Teams channels. Build an agent that answers product launch questions like: “What’s the next milestone?”, “How do I submit creative assets?”, or “When is the launch event?”, using SharePoint resources and Teams conversations."
02:08 — Regarding Microsoft's strategy for Copilot: step one involved integrating Copilot everywhere to ensure easy access and increasing familiarity. Step two was the launch of Copilot Studio Lite, which allows any user to build agents easily. Now, step three is focusing on finding the off-the-shelf agents available to make complex tasks such as app development and workflow automation seamless.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I compared the diverging strategies of SAP and Oracle as the AI revolution reshapes enterprise tech.
Highlights
00:22 — SAP versus Oracle. It was interesting on SAP's recent Q3 earnings call: the financial analysts seemed to be really preoccupied with this notion — was SAP going to get into the hyperscale business? Or was the fact that Oracle is in the cloud infrastructure business something that SAP sees as a disadvantage? I think those are entirely the wrong questions.
01:00 — SAP is never going to go in that direction. Where SAP's future is — and what CEO Christian Klein kept coming back to over and over, and I believe very persuasively — is it's all about the data, and AI, and agents, and the way that apps are evolving to pull all of that together. It's about the business data cloud. It's about certain partnerships.
01:45 — It reported a 22% increase in cloud revenue, but in constant currency, that was 27%. Its current cloud backlog was up about 27%. So, strong numbers for them — much, much faster than Oracle's apps business is growing. But Oracle thinks it is going to be ahead on the AI front, and with the database, infrastructure, and its vertical market apps, it thinks it's going to have a real case to be made here.
02:27 — But from SAP’s side, Klein was asked about the hyperscale business. Really? His point was: no, no, no, this is not going to happen. Instead, we're going to double down — triple down — at SAP on the things that we do best and that our customers are looking for us to deliver.
03:44 — A big point that Klein made about this — and why he's so confident about SAP's ability as he said, we are seeing more and more that the buying decisions are being made around business outcomes. That's the focus. Certainly, the CIO is involved, but the decisions are moving up into the C-suite and the boards of directors.
05:08 — I think the competitive dynamics between SAP and Oracle are going to really intensify over the next two or three years because the opportunity here around the AI Revolution, with agents, AI data, and applications, is incredibly big and powerful.
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Bonnie Tinder is the founder and CEO of Raven Intelligence, an independent B2B peer review site that amplifies the voice of the customer. She focuses on software customers, consulting partners, and software vendors and helps identify the best partners for their needs. In this episode, she shares powerful insights from leading organizations on how AI is being used not to replace employees, but to enhance experiences, streamline operations, and drive better business outcomes through purpose-driven, human-centered deployment strategies.
Episode 56 | Human-Centered AI Strategies
The Big Themes:
- Augments, Not Replaces Humans: AI should enhance the human experience, not eliminate it. Real-world examples, such as Marriott’s use of AI to improve the check-in process, demonstrate that AI can remove operational friction and allow frontline staff to focus on hospitality and customer engagement. In the energy sector, utilities are embedding AI into safety systems to make work more accurate and proactive. These examples show that the most successful AI deployments begin by identifying pain points in human workflows.
- Cultural Readiness Is Crucial for AI Success: AI adoption is not just a technical project; it is a cultural transformation. Multiple examples made it clear that even the most advanced tools can fail without the right introduction. One university CHRO compared AI implementation to sneaking vegetables into meals. By avoiding technical jargon and focusing on small improvements, they saw stronger adoption. People often resist what they do not understand, especially when it feels like a threat. Leaders who frame AI as a tool for reducing stress, reclaiming time, and increasing impact are more likely to succeed.
- AI Should Start with Outcomes: Real AI value begins with the business goal, not the technology itself. Companies that succeed with AI are the ones that begin by identifying the result they want to achieve. Whether it's streamlining hotel check-ins, reducing safety risks in energy infrastructure, or accelerating clinical breakthroughs, effective strategies start with specific problems. These companies ask their teams where the friction lies, and then choose tools to fix those issues. This is a shift from a technology-first mindset to an outcome-first mindset.
The Big Quote: “I hope you know business people will all start to get to the point of like, yes, the nature of work is going to change. But AI is not going to spell doom and gloom for every worker on Earth. It's going to give many, many, many of them an opportunity to do better things."
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I unpack Microsoft AI’s push for empathetic AI with new features designed to make Copilot more relatable and engaging.
Highlights
00:18 — Microsoft has launched the Mico 1 character — a visual presence that appears and interacts with users when they tap into Copilot's voice mode. Now, this cloud-like entity is optional and actively listens, reacts, and even changes color in response to the direction of the conversation. The aim is to give Copilot a friendly face and make interactions more natural.
00:59 — Mustafa Suleyman, CEO of Microsoft AI, said the following: “When we started talking about this idea of an AI companion a few years ago, it seemed distant and uncertain. Now it's real. It's here. We can't wait for you to feel the difference.” In a press release, Microsoft stated that Copilot is designed to be empathetic and supportive rather than sycophantic.
01:32 — Now, I can't ascertain whether Microsoft has truly delivered the AI companion of pop culture fame — think HAL 9000 without the murderous intent. However, personalization and natural interaction have become their mission in recent months, and Mico is certainly an important piece of the puzzle.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I dive into how ServiceNow is redefining enterprise automation with its new AI Experience platform.
Highlights
00:15 — ServiceNow has for a long time been intriguing in the way that it does not necessarily map to or compete directly against lots of the other major Cloud Wars Top 10 companies. ServiceNow has gone a different sort of route, everything they're doing from AI and workflows. The company has taken another big step with a service they introduced recently called the AI Experience.
00:56 — I had a chance earlier this week to speak with ServiceNow's President, Chief Product Officer and Chief Operating Officer, Amit Zavery. Now, one of the big things that Zavery said is: "Look, just as customers got sort of over the hump of saying, okay, I've got to integrate all my applications and my databases and my systems now along comes AI."
01:28 — A concern among customers has been there's going to be lots of new pieces, and the customer is going to be stuck in the middle again. Amit said that a key point here is it [AI Experience] ties together these different data types, voice, images, data, text, and everything from the people, the data and the workflows that are happening around the company.
02:28 — Amit further said: "What we want to try to do here is this automation, happening with AI end-to-end, across company." So, it's not just the processes, but how the company works up and down, across the organization, and with customers and with suppliers. He said: "We're trying to ensure that customers can use AI to cut technical debt, rather than add to it."
03:13 — Another big point about this was, there's lots of productivity, lots of innovation here again. He said: "Trust has never been more important." He said that the AI Experience, in tandem with the AI Control Tower from ServiceNow, is going to give customers the ability to feel very comfortable that they understand they're on top of where these AI deployments are happening.
04:28 — And he talks about how ServiceNow being very open in this platform. He said: "We're finding new ways to work with the other big tech companies to ensure that customers get what they want, and that we're not forcing customers to, again, get into that big game of integration. We want more innovation and less integration."
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Amit Zavery, President, Chief Product Officer, and Chief Operating Officer at ServiceNow, sits down to talk with Bob Evans in this special episode of Cloud Wars Live. They dive deep into how ServiceNow’s AI Experience is transforming enterprise workflows through automation, governance, and personalization. Zavery outlines a bold vision for delivering real ROI and trusted AI at scale.
Reimagining Workflow with AI Experience
The Big Themes:
- ServiceNow’s AI Experience Is About Unified, Actionable Intelligence: Amit Zavery describes ServiceNow’s AI Experience as more than a conversational interface, it’s an orchestrated, end-to-end workflow platform that integrates voice, text, image recognition, agents, and enterprise systems. It’s designed to eliminate the “spare part world” of fragmented tools and disconnected apps. By delivering one multimodal, multilingual interface, ServiceNow enables users to not just find information, but actually complete tasks and workflows.
- AI Governance and Control Are Built In, Not Bolted On: The AI Control Tower is ServiceNow’s answer to one of the biggest enterprise challenges: AI governance. With this feature, companies can discover, monitor, and manage all AI usage, not only from ServiceNow but across third-party systems, too. CIOs and CISOs gain the ability to track who is using what AI systems, what agents are doing, and what data is being accessed.
- Industry-Specific Use Cases Drive Real-World AI Value: Enterprise AI Zavery says must be contextual, curated, and tightly integrated with business processes. ServiceNow is collaborating with customers like AstraZeneca (pharma), BT (telecom), and Rossmann (retail) to deploy agentic AI that delivers real value in vertical-specific environments. These aren’t generic AI chatbots; they’re intelligent agents embedded in workflows that help store managers order inventory, researchers manage supply chains, and employees navigate complex rules.
The Big Quote: “I call it the spare part world we are in right now, and it’s a very difficult thing for a lot of the leaders to really keep up with it. One to know, what are you using? How are you using it? What is the ROI on it? What are the costs associated with that?”
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I show how SAP’s seamless data strategy is driving real business value in the age of AI.
Highlights
00:14 — SAP reported a very nice third quarter last week. Some highlights from SAP Q3, and then I'll do the comparisons with its competitors. So, the cloud revenue overall is up 22% to $6.14 billion. Ad their current cloud backlog, which is pretty close to RPO (Remaining Performance Obligation), the term some companies use, was up 23% to $18.1 billion.
01:24 — SAP is at the top, up 22% to $6.14 billion. Second place, Workday: 14% to $2.17 billion. Then Oracle, up 11% for its SaaS products to $3.8 billion. And Salesforce: most recent quarter revenue is up 10% to $10.24 billion. SAP’s growth is more than twice as high than what Oracle and Salesforce did, and it's about 60% higher than the growth rate for Workday.
02:10 — There’s a lot to think about here. What’s making this happen? I think a few things are going on. One is, certainly there’s a tendency for longtime SAP on-premise customers to slide along and go with SAP.
03:06 — The other thing I think SAP has done well is evolving their applications. First, it was the Cloud ERP Suite, now the Business Suite. It's trying to make things simpler for its customers with a seamless experience, same interface, same data model. SAP, along with the others, has been doing a very good job of infusing agentic AI into their applications.
04:03 — So, very nice quarter here from SAP for Q3. It continues to dramatically outpace what its competitors are doing. But there’s a lot of back and forth, a lot of vying to close that gap on the part of competitors.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I unpack how Salesforce is reinventing IT support with its new Agentforce platform.
Highlights
00:11 — Salesforce has launched Agentforce IT Service. This product suite is described by the company as an agent-first, conversational-first IT support solution. Unlike lengthy back-and-forth interactions with service desk staff, the new system introduces a conversation-based resolution model that’s available 24/7.
01:15 — Muddu Sudhakar, SVP and GM, IT and HR Service at Salesforce, said, "The fragmented, legacy ITSM model is fundamentally broken. By building Agentforce IT Service natively on the Salesforce and Service Cloud platform, we are driving a conversation-first, agent-first revolution — with product and technology innovation that transforms IT and HR..."
01:43 — Agentforce IT Services represents a significant breakthrough that’s sure to save IT teams hundreds of hours with its unique agent-first, conversation-first approach. Support is instant and personalized. Salesforce has made a remarkable entrance into the ITSM space, making a powerful impact with its unified, agent-driven strategy.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I discuss the recent AWS outage, identifying five reasons that this outage will significantly impact the company's reputation.
Highlights
00:30 — AWS experienced a big outage this week, impacting multiple companies and services at a time when AWS, relative to its hyperscaler competitors, is in a decline. I think there are five core reasons that its reputation will suffer from this outage.
01:15 — The magnitude of the outage will greatly impact the company's reputation. There is an enormous range of business customers directly affected by this, reaching millions of people across multiple industries.
01:50 — There's never a "good" time for events like this to occur, but this outage happened at the beginning of the holiday season. In the minds of many business leaders, this season is where they get a large percentage of their annual revenue through online services. With this disaster, can AWS be fully trusted?
02:30 — AWS is the slowest-growing hyperscaler. In a vacuum, it reached nearly $31 billion in revenue with a 17.5% growth rate in Q2. However, AWS is growing at a much slower rate compared to its hyperscaler competitors — Microsoft, Google Cloud, and Oracle.
03:37 — AWS also has the slowest-growing RPO or backlog. AWS reported its backlog up to 25% to almost $200 billion. Again, in the world of the vacuum, that's terrific. But relative to the others, this wasn't very good at all.
04:38 — This outage came at a time when the other hyperscalers are distinguishing themselves with powerful AI strategies and services. AWS has had some AI properties but not at the scale of Microsoft with Copilot and ChatGPT, Google Cloud with the launch of Gemini Enterprise, and Oracle with its Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI).
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I look at why a new Harvard-Microsoft licensing deal could be a defining moment for generative AI in medicine
Highlights
00:11 — Harvard University's Graduate Medical School has entered into a licensing agreement with Microsoft, enabling the company to access consumer health data. Now, Microsoft plans to utilize this wealth of health data to enhance Copilot with health-related content, which many view as part of the company's strategy to reduce its reliance on OpenAI infrastructure.
01:06 — Healthcare was one of the first use cases identified for AI, and although Microsoft already has healthcare-focused AI tools, this partnership could provide the most accurate healthcare AI tool for general use cases. This situation represents a widening gap in reliance on OpenAI's large language models. Microsoft is expanding its reach with models developed by other providers.
01:53 — But this also poses a threat to any dominance that OpenAI might already have in the healthcare space. ChatGPT is reported to provide sometimes inaccurate responses. While things have undoubtedly improved since ChatGPT burst onto the scene, the reliance on imperfect data can create significant risks. Consequently, Copilot could easily rise to the top spot in this domain.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I talk about recent announcements from Salesforce's Dreamforce event as well as the company's move into new territories.
Highlights
00:15 — At Salesforce's Dreamforce, Marc Benioff described the event as the biggest one ever. Dreamforce highlighted product announcements, particularly around the Agentforce AI platform, and expanded partnerships.
00:30 — One of the most intereseting pieces of this was the new reality of agentic AI with Agentforce and the rise of Salesforce Data Cloud giving the company the opportunity to move beyond the traditional boundaries of CRM into other industries, including supply chain. It's very clear that Salesforce is looking to expand its territory.
01:21 — In his keynote, Marc Benioff talked about big customers, including Dell. The customer company had been facing major challenges and turned to Salesforce to overcome, modernize, and incorporate more automation and intelligence to make better decisions. So, Dell has been working with Salesforce Supply Chain which came through the acquistion of Regrello.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I share Larry Ellison’s bold vision of the AI market as the biggest in history — and how Oracle plans to lead it.
Highlights
00:14 — Well, this is my final report here from Oracle AI World in Las Vegas. At the Financial Analyst Meeting yesterday, Oracle unveiled some truly extraordinary numbers. It said that by fiscal year 2030, its revenue is going to grow from $57 billion, about a 4x increase over that period. The strategy it has for that is "AI Everywhere."
01:24 — Here are the Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) growth numbers: FY25 (just completed as of May 31): $10 billion. FY26: $15 billion. FY27: $34 billion. FY28: $77 billion. FY29: $129 billion. FY30: $166 billion. That growth, plus its applications business and its traditional business totals up to the $225 billion goal.
03:39 — It's also got the database business. Powered by the AI revolution and demand for the AI database 26AI, it believes its database business could reach $20 billion by FY30. Larry Ellison even said it’s possible that the multi-cloud portion could contribute almost that much during this time. It’s a mix of technology, strategy, timing, hard work, and talent that’s brought Oracle to this point.
04:19 — Clay Magouyrk, one of the two new CEOs at Oracle, said Oracle now has 700 AI infrastructure customers and that it’s growing extremely rapidly. “I believe the average deal size for those customers is $67 million,” he said.
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- AI opportunities: Despite the excitement around AI, Kaupp emphasizes the importance of understanding the technology before fully integrating it into workflows. He advocates for “literacy before agency" to understand the true impacts of what AI "can unlock."
- Transformation with AI: Kaupp describes the process of transforming a contract approval process using AI tools, highlighting the importance of identifying inefficiencies and becoming “client zero” for automation. He poses a question relating to assisting customers with AI adoption: “If I can't identify 'stupid' things that we're living with and transforming them, how am I going to get clients to do that?”
- Internal impacts: Microsoft's release of all Microsoft Learn content as an MCP server has led to an important internal transformation for ArcherPoint by Cherry Bekaert, enabling consultants and developers to use AI-powered search instead of traditional engines to quickly find relevant functionality and updates. This approach has also been applied to the organization's own codebase, allowing access to previous customer implementations.
- Big trends for Business Central: Across all Microsoft products, and in the case of Business Central, Kaupp shares that clients are excited about the potential of AI agents, but many are still experimenting without clear use cases. As a result, he notes, consultants often find themselves reversing client-built solutions to make them production-ready.
- ArcherPoint by Cherry Bekaert at Summit NA: Kaupp and the team from ArcherPoint by Cherry Bekaert will be at Community Summit NA 2025, and you can connect with the team at their Booth #1007. Kaupp will also co-lead a session on Wednesday, October 22, "Leading Through Change: Harnessing Communication and Resilience." He encourages attendees to stop by the booth and chat with him on all things AI. "I'm there to learn or to guide... to me, that is the benefit of the community. It's the benefit of why we're all there," he notes.
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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I dive into Oracle’s bold AI-driven transformation and its stunning forecast to reach $225 billion in annual revenue by 2030, powered by explosive OCI and multi-cloud growth.
Highlights
00:12 — As we wrap things up here at Oracle AI world, we had the financial analyst meeting. Oracle's Principal Financial Officer Doug Kehring revealed that Oracle has raised its revenue projections again for the future, and says that they will hit the astonishing total of $225 billion in total revenue for fiscal year 30.
00:52 — This was one of the most dynamic, interesting Oracle events I've ever been to. So when I talk about them being on fire, it's powered by their hyper growth OCI business. But it goes beyond that to what they're doing across the board and the AI Revolution really kicking in. It's why Larry Ellison pivoted the entire company to integrate AI in everything that they do.
01:55 — The company's two new CEOs, Clay Magouyrk and Mike Sicilia, along with Larry Ellison, repeated throughout the event: "There's no limitation on us about demand. We have more demand by far than we can handle. We are supply-constrained. And they revealed a lot of plans about all the things Oracle is doing to be able to overcome that capacity constraint."
02:21 — So, it is not just OpenAI. They talked about how the RPO, which when they released their numbers a few weeks ago, that is for the quarter ending August 31, their RPO was $455 billion in just the six or seven weeks since that quarter ended, that RPO is now over $500 billion. So again, it was not just the big deal with OpenAI.
04:25 — We'll have more coming up next week. I'll go into more detail about this. But part of what was so interesting at this financial analyst meeting today, Larry Ellison talked said: "What about in the areas of like plant genomes?" Larry Ellison wove together the ideas of how this new Oracle Database along with the Oracle AI Data Platform is going to make that possible.
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Magnus Perri of elevaite365 Test Automation, leads a company at the forefront of AI-driven test automation for Microsoft Dynamics 365. With decades of hands-on experience in ERP implementations, he and his team built elevaite365 to solve the challenges of constant change, complexity, and testing inefficiencies in enterprise software. In this episode, Magnus joins John Siefert to define a new category, AI-powered test automation, and explore how it’s transforming implementation success, business agility, and the future of cloud ERP systems.
Reimagining ERP with AI
The Big Themes:
- AI Test Automation Is a New Software Category: AI test automation not just a better version of traditional testing, it’s an entirely new approach. With frequent updates, integrations, and customizations, ERP systems outgrow static methods. Platforms like elevaite365 Test Automation define a future where testing is adaptive, autonomous, and business-aligned. This shift changes how organizations approach quality assurance, transforming it from a back-end task into a front-line innovation enabler.
- AI Testing Drives Tangible Business Outcomes: The shift to AI-powered QA isn’t just a technical improvement—it delivers real business value. Perri and Siefert explore outcomes like faster go-lives, lower project costs, reduced QA workload, and quicker time-to-value. These results matter to senior executives, who face mounting pressure to drive both innovation and efficiency. Elevaite365 Test Automation's platform supports these goals by automating repetitive tasks, reducing errors, and scaling effortlessly. What used to be a cost center (testing) is now a growth lever.
- AI Test Automation Builds Ecosystem-Wide Agility: AI testing isn’t just about IT: It transforms the entire enterprise ecosystem. When testing improves, so does everything connected to it: systems integration, customer experience, compliance, internal workflows, and delivery speed. The agility gained through elevaite365 Test Automation extends beyond QA teams. It empowers cross-functional teams to move faster and take more calculated risks.
The Big Quote: “What truly sets elevaite365 Test Automation apart isn’t just that it’s faster or more robust… it’s that we eliminate the typical roadblocks—there are no limits on users, scripts, or environments."
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I share insights from Chris Pope on how automation can boost morale, reduce costs, and accelerate delivery.
Highlights
00:02 — Today's episode is brought to you by AutomatePro, a ServiceNow partner. They want to talk about a new product they have that is helping to change the software development lifecycle. AutomatePro Chief Product Officer Chris Pope recently spoke with my colleague Kieron Allen, and I wanted to highlight some of the key parts of that.
00:43 — They said they try to automate some of this drudgery and the mundane work. That’s in areas like testing, documentation. It’s not stuff that talented developers want to be doing — though it’s a central part of the process. So when AutomatePro steps in and says, “Hey, we can take care of that for you,” it allows those highly skilled developers to move on to more meaningful work.
01:18 — The benefits of what AutomatePro does in working with the ServiceNow platform: they accelerate the process, they boost employee morale — which is so important today — and especially this ability to lower cost. It was a key point that Chris made a number of times in the conversation with Kieron: AutomatePro helps to augment humans, not replace them.
02:10 — So, he said, "We meet people where they're already working." He said that could be in a native state, through a portal, or through any other part of the process. Ultimately, what that allows is — he said, “Wherever the developers are working, we’re there — where the developer already is and is already working.”
03:06 — This reflects the powerful ecosystem that ServiceNow has been intent on building for the last several years. So we see these Cloud Wars Top 10 companies, like ServiceNow, have an enormous range of capability. But, as each frequently says, “We can't do everything,” and we're counting on partners like AutomatePro to step in and be able to add significant value.
03:34 — One: it lowers costs. Two: it accelerates software development. Three: it improves morale. And it does so while augmenting what humans do — rather than replacing humans. Very interesting.
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Kieron Allen speaks with Chris Pope, Chief Product Officer at AutomatePro, in an in-depth discussion that is part of a broader series of podcasts, articles, and reports on ServiceNow’s evolving ecosystem. They explore how intelligent automation and agentic AI are reshaping DevOps and quality assurance. The conversation also highlights how AutomatePro’s built-on approach enhances developer productivity, reduces risk, and ensures security, all within the ServiceNow environment.
AutomatePro’s AI Edge
The Big Themes
- AutomatePro’s Core Mission: AutomatePro focuses on solving one of the most time-consuming parts of software delivery: testing and documentation. Pope explains that their goal isn't to replace humans but to augment their efforts through intelligent automation. By embedding deeply within the ServiceNow platform, AutomatePro allows developers and platform owners to automate repetitive tasks early in the development cycle, ensuring higher-quality releases and faster deployment.
- Human-AI Collaboration Wins: The myth of AI replacing people is outdated. Pope reframes the conversation: it’s not about replacement, it’s about enablement. The real winners will be those who know how to use AI effectively. Today’s Copilots are context-aware, learning from human behavior and adapting to different personas — whether it's a developer, analyst, or HR owner. Prompt engineering is emerging as a vital skill, and the better the prompt, the better the AI-driven output.
- DevOps Innovation Without Compromise: AutomatePro and ServiceNow are reshaping DevOps by making speed and quality compatible. Historically, faster releases meant riskier ones. With AutomatePro’s intelligent testing automation, that tradeoff no longer exists. Frequent, smaller releases — the “fixed forward” model — are now safer thanks to early automation, embedded security, and contextual AI. Pope argues that platform owners and developers are the new heroes in enterprise IT, and equipping them with Copilots, intelligent workflows, and instant feedback loops unlocks untapped value.
The Big Quote: "You're not going to be replaced by AI per se, you're going to be replaced by someone that knows how to use AI effectively."
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Key Takeaways
- Overview: Fisher gives an overview of his role as Chief Information Officer at BouMatic, all within the context of the dairy equipment industry that’s evolving toward larger, consolidated operations. BouMatic is the "third largest dairy equipment manufacturer in the world," and he gives context on the difference in marketplaces.
- AI: The rapid rollout of copilots and the pace of AI innovation have created a constant need to catch up on functionality, licensing, and deployment strategies, explains Fisher, prompting teams to shift from intended roadmaps to more flexible frameworks. As Fisher describes, “We're in a bit of a catch-up game all the time... not just with AI in general, but even in its deployment.”
- Addressing deployment challenges: Deploying AI has revealed long-standing data challenges, which Fisher compares to uncovering a “junk drawer” of neglected information. To address this, the BouMatic team uses sandbox environments for testing and follows a "five-pillar approach." Two of these pillars focus on user upskilling and cultural change, highlighting successful deployment through use cases, structured rollout plans, and ongoing support to ensure ROI.
- AI experimentation: When exploring AI, sandbox environments allow teams to experiment safely and securely, learn from both successes and failures, and prepare for production with a user-focused, iterative approach, notes Fisher.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I report live from Oracle AI World, where speed and innovation are front and center.
Highlights
00:13 — Here at Oracle AI World in Las Vegas, you can see there's lots going on. It's almost like the new tagline for Oracle — AI changes everything. Oracle is one of the very few companies — maybe the only one — that goes end-to-end: from cloud infrastructure, AI infrastructure, AI inferencing, databases, applications, industry-specific solutions, analytics, and more.
01:00 — Some of the big ways it's doing this include: the new AI Database 26. There’s the new AI data platform it's launched. In OCI, it's launched the ZetaScale Cluster 10 for AI. There are AI-powered features now embedded in its Fusion Applications. They introduced many new features for Agent Studio and also the Agent Marketplace.
02:00 — There’s much more going on at this show. I’ve been to a lot of Oracle events, and I think this one is by far the most ambitious, the most sweeping, and really, in a way, the most innovative in terms of product launches. Larry Ellison is strongly behind the notion that AI changes everything. That’s even reflected in the name change. For several years, it was CloudWorld — now it’s AI World.
02:58 — The customers featured here say speed is an advantage. First-mover possibilities. They know they’ve got to move on these things. They can’t wait, because companies that get an early jump on AI are going to have a huge advantage.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, sponsored by CLOUDVICE, I explore how Oracle’s new CEOs, Mike Sicilia and Clay Magouyrk, are steering the company deeper into the AI revolution
Highlights
00:00 — Today’s episode is brought to you by CloudVice, winner of the 2025 Oracle North America Technology and Cloud AI Innovation Partner Award. “We’re honored to receive the 2025 Oracle North America Technology & Cloud AI Innovation Partner Award, a recognition that underscores CLOUDVICE’s unwavering commitment to advancing enterprise AI on Oracle Cloud,” said Jaison Correya, CEO of CLOUDVICE. “This achievement reflects the breakthrough projects and real-world transformations we’ve delivered with Oracle — and at Oracle AI World 2025, we took that vision even further by unveiling CORX, our next-generation platform where AI thinks, Cloud scales, Blockchain verifies, and Robotics acts. It represents the next leap in intelligent automation and the future of real-world autonomy."
00:25 — So, we’re beginning to hear the strategies Oracle’s two new CEOs are taking. That’s Mike Sicilia and Clay Magouyrk. It’s clear they think that Oracle’s supremacy in data and infrastructure is going to make them successful in AI — to the point that their main focus is: how do we drive great customer outcomes using AI services?
01:20 — And Oracle’s plan, which they’ve been talking about a little bit and will unveil this week in much more detail, is that while LLMs currently work with public internet data, they’re going to make available — very securely, privately, and with all requisite compliance — enterprise data that also can be accessed by those LLMs.
02:21 — Clay Magouyrk talked a bit about the work Oracle has done to reach the point where its infrastructure is seen as superior. Magouyrk said that inside Oracle, the idea came up — “What if we shrunk the cloud down to a very tiny size? Could we get better performance, and could we give more deployment options to customers?” — it turned out that was exactly the case.
03:28 — This week at Oracle AI World, they’re going to introduce a new cloud bundle that has three racks — from 40 to three. Also, the stunning multicloud agreements that Oracle has reached with other hyperscalers — Microsoft, Google Cloud, and AWS — mean that those three competitors of Oracle sell the Oracle Database to their customers through their own clouds.
04:21 — Because for all the things Oracle has done in its first 48 or 49 years, the next five years, triggered by all these changes we’ve just described, are going to be very different. Sicilia said, “One of the things you can count on as we move forward into those next five years is that we are currently, at Oracle, taking a very different approach.”
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In this special Cloud Wars interview, Oracle Executive Vice President for Applications Development Steve Mirandajoins Bob Evans to discuss how Oracle’s transformation from CloudWorld to AI World signals a seismic leap in enterprise technology. Miranda shares how Oracle has delivered more than 600 agents, launched the Agent Studio and Marketplace, and unified AI capabilities across its Fusion Applications and industry verticals. The result: a powerful convergence of data, intelligence, and automation driving the next wave of business transformation.
AI-driven Enterprise
The Big Themes:
- Oracle’s Next Seismic Shift: Oracle’s renaming of CloudWorld to AI World isn’t a branding exercise, it’s a declaration. Just as “OpenWorld” and “CloudWorld” reflected past technology revolutions, “AI World” marks Oracle’s belief that AI represents a shift of even greater magnitude. Miranda describes this era as one where automation and intelligence redefine enterprise operations. Oracle’s applications division is now delivering hundreds of AI-driven agents and features at unprecedented speed.
- Agents Everywhere: In just two years, Oracle has gone from announcing 50 generative AI features to delivering over 600 agents across its Fusion and vertical applications. These agents automate tasks, surface insights, and optimize processes, often eliminating manual decision-making entirely. Oracle’s rapid release cadence (quarterly updates backed by Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI)) means customers constantly inherit new capabilities without disruption.
- OCI, the Engine: Oracle’s leadership in hosting and training large language models within Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) gives its applications a built-in edge. Customers automatically benefit from the latest AI tools, performance improvements, and model upgrades without manual migration. OCI’s second-generation architecture, featuring Exadata, cloud-native identity, and networking, delivers both reliability and continuous innovation.
The Big Quote: “For many of our customers, it's great timing to have AI delivery, because they've gone live. They've gone through multiple phases. They're on the cloud. They're used to getting quarterly updates. Now, this is a big thing, but they're used to that people part of the transformation."
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- Company background: "HSO is the second largest Microsoft partner in the globe," Holwagner reports. It focuses on industries including professional services, manufacturing, finance, and the public sector. HSO continues to grow not only with its traditional ERP services but also around cloud and AI services. "The mission here is really to improve our clients' business performance with the results of Microsoft solutions."
- AI's market impact: "It's definitely a transformation happening faster than anything I've seen before," Holwagner says. While there's already been significant advancements with AI, it's still only the beginning of what has yet to be built out and understood. He breaks down AI across four different roles:
- At the top level, boards and owners are pushing for areas of efficiency to stay competitive, reimagining the business model using AI.
- The next level is the CTO or an IT manager; they have efficiency demands, but they're also primarily thinking about how to contain information and data in a security model.
- The business leaders or department heads are being tasked to think about efficiency using AI but they're mostly busy keeping their engine going. They need tools that show them where to get ROI.
- The last level is HR, which might be considering where AI is filling in for various jobs.
- Perspectives for applying AI: HSO looks from a responsibility perspective in three different areas. First, it aims to educate customers on what's possible while also focusing on what's doable. Second is protection, which involves having control over your domain information. The third area is thinking about use cases for specific AI components.
- Organizational transformation: With the introduction of AI, there's a transformation happening across organizations in a variety of industries. AI has been thought of as a technical element when it needs to be included in functional conversation, especially for consulting businesses, Holwagner notes. Leaders and managers must understand the concepts of weaving in AI to give it value. AI transformation will likely lead to a "healthy reduction in certain areas" in the workforce, but "the transformation of what people are going to do in the organization is going to change." It will be more business logic transformation consulting and fewer hands-on the keyboard-related tasks, Holwagner shares.
- Summit NA: HSO will be attending Community Summit North America. You can connect with HSO at booth #209. The HSO team will be presenting several sessions throughout the event as well, including:
- The Latest D365 AI Agents and Features to Automate Your Supply Chain on Monday, October 20th
- Delivering a Scalable, Secure Data & AI Platform on Monday, October 20th
- 3 Hidden Risks of AI in the Enterprise—and How to Manage Them Responsibly on Tuesday, October 21st
- Solving Customer Master Data Challenges for a 360° View in Dynamics 365 CE (CRM) and F/SCM (FO) on Wednesday, October 22nd
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In this episode of the Cloud Wars Minute, sponsored by CLOUDVICE, I review the moves of Larry Ellison and Oracle over the past few years in anticipation of what's to come at Oracle AI World 2025.
Highlights
00:15 — CLOUDVICE is the winner of the 2025 Oracle North America Technology & Cloud AI Innovation Partner Award. “We’re honored to receive the 2025 Oracle North America Technology & Cloud AI Innovation Partner Award, a recognition that underscores CLOUDVICE’s unwavering commitment to advancing enterprise AI on Oracle Cloud,” said Jaison Correya, CEO of CLOUDVICE. “This achievement reflects the breakthrough projects and real-world transformations we’ve delivered with Oracle — and at Oracle AI World 2025, we took that vision even further by unveiling CORX, our next-generation platform where AI thinks, Cloud scales, Blockchain verifies, and Robotics acts. It represents the next leap in intelligent automation and the future of real-world autonomy.” Learn more about CLOUDVICE at Oracle AI World 2025 here: CLOUDVICE to Showcase its AI Orchestration and Oracle Cloud Expertise at Oracle AI World 2025.
00:26 — This week, at AI World, it will be interesting to see what Oracle and Larry Ellison cook up. The company has two new CEOs, Mike Sicilia and Clay Magouyrk, as Safra Catz has moved over to the role of Executive Vice Chairman. It has lots of new technology, go-to-market plans, partnerships, approaches, strengths, and capabilities.
01:00 — Ellison is now in his 49th year of leading Oracle and 82nd year on Earth — and he has been remarkable. His rate of innovation and constructive disruption has only increased this year. And that's what leads me to think that this year, there could be something pretty interesting brewing.
01:32 — Over the past couple of years, he has taken on hyperscalers and cloud infrastructure against three of the biggest, most powerful, wealthiest, and most influential companies: Microsoft, Google, and Amazon. And Oracle has been extremely successful at it. He also got these competitors to agree to sell the Oracle database on their clouds to their customers.
02:53 — Ellison even wooed OpenAI into a massive, strategic partnership that includes a $300 billion deal to supply infrastructure and AI inference and training. I believe this is the largest business deal ever struck. There might be others, please let me know. But that's what I think is up at the top.
03:50 — Reflecting on the arc of what Ellison has done over the last few years, shaking up Oracle and the industry, it makes one think about what he might do at AI World this year. I suggest expecting the unexpected, as he's not one to let things sit still with the rapidly advancing AI Revolution.
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Brad Haupt, Vice President of Supply Chain at Monument Health, joins Bob Evans at Workday Rising to discuss how the health system is modernizing operations through Workday’s unified platform. He shares how consolidating 17 systems into Workday created a single source of truth for finance, HR, and supply chain data. By pairing data intelligence with a culture of innovation, Monument Health is transforming supply chain management from a behind-the-scenes function into a strategic driver of better healthcare experiences.
AI and the New Healthcare Supply Chain
The Big Themes:
- Monument Health’s Unique Challenges and Resilience: Located in remote western South Dakota, Monument Health faces the dual challenges of geographic isolation and sudden population surges during events like the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally. Haupt described how this environment demands both meticulous planning and quick adaptability. The annual influx of visitors, tripling the local population, acts as a stress test for supply chain agility. These experiences have honed the team’s crisis management skills.
- Linking Supply Chain Excellence to Patient Outcomes: Perhaps the most profound shift at Monument Health is redefining supply chain success through the “value equation”: patient, physician, and caregiver experiences and outcomes divided by cost. Haupt rejects the traditional view of supply chain as purely cost-focused. Sometimes the higher-cost item delivers greater patient value, improving safety or recovery time. By connecting financial, supply, and clinical data, Workday allows leaders to quantify this relationship.
- AI and Automation Redefining Contract Management: Haupt discussed Workday’s integration of Evisort for contract lifecycle management as a game changer. Currently, supply contracts can take eight to twenty-four hours of total work spread over weeks. With AI-assisted redlining and learning-based automation, the process could be reduced to seconds. The system will eventually learn from user edits, producing increasingly personalized and accurate suggestions. Haupt sees this as freeing supply chain professionals from time-consuming legal reviews to focus on high-value work.
The Big Quote: “I think we're monitoring over 2,000 items that are back-ordered or shipping delays coming from overseas, or manufactured delays. So, we have to constantly communicate with the physician so they don't go into a procedure and think, I've got it all planned out in my brain, and then they say, 'Hand me a 12 French ...,' and they don't have one, and they've got to change their whole treatment plan. So, that communication is really key. Workday has helped us really automate some of that."
More from Brad Haupt and Workday:
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I look at how Google Cloud is helping businesses create their futures — not just optimize their past — through Gemini Enterprise.
Highlights
00:14 — Google Cloud really stepped out here with the launch of Gemini Enterprise, and I would like to share with you eight reasons why I feel that the launch of Gemini Enterprise now makes Google Cloud the number one player in the world for AI for business. So first, I think the end-to-end capabilities that are resident within the Gemini AI platform are essential for customers
01:16 — It's a little hard to know where to start and really hard to figure out: How do I put together the right mix of piece solutions from lots of different vendors? Now, Gemini Enterprise here offers the full set of end-to-end capabilities Two: While Gemini Enterprise does offer all the pieces, it also gives customers complete choice to use third-party solutions.
02:34 — Flexible pricing: There's Google Enterprise, which is $30 per user per month. And then there's Google Business, that’s $21 per user per month. It's got massive data access, right? So the need to ensure that these tools have access to the right data in a secure and fully integrated fashion is key. It's got that. The whole notion of governance and security.
03:37 — The ecosystem that's been built out, that's been a huge part of Google Cloud's success. And it ties in with the openness for customers, giving lots and lots of different choices here — of who, of what Gemini Enterprise works with. And then a little bit of a not-so-secret secret here: the Delta team within Google Cloud Consulting and Professional Services.
04:24 — What the most successful tech companies today are doing is helping companies create their futures, not just perfect what they've done in the past. And this is a long-standing thought here that Kurian has made. I've talked about this a number of times, and it goes back to six years ago when he took over as CEO of Google Cloud.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I look at why Microsoft thinks avatars will boost AI voice adoption.
Highlights
00:11 — Microsoft has introduced an experimental Portraits feature in Copilot Labs in the U.S., the U.K., and Canada. The feature offers Copilot users a choice of 40 cartoon-esque human avatars. Microsoft AI CEO Mustafa Suleyman said "You can now talk to a Copilot portrait in real time . . ."
01:02 — This feature not only adds a personal touch to conversations but also makes them more engaging and ultimately relatable. Now, this is an important step for Copilot as Microsoft continues to promote voice interactions. While using Copilot features through text prompts has become increasingly popular, voice control remains a secondary player in the market.
01:33 — However, the opportunities for more widespread voice usage are immense for Microsoft. The more users ask quick and simple questions, the more the technology will be utilized, leading to increased adoption. And the fact that you can have these interactions through voice as opposed to text will definitely speed up this adoption process.
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Evan Goldberg, Founder and Executive Vice President at Oracle NetSuite, sits down with Bob Evans for a conversation about the company’s next chapter: NetSuite Next. He describes how AI will make business management simpler and more intuitive, allowing users to automate tasks, ask natural-language questions, and customize their systems with ease. Goldberg shares his vision of NetSuite evolving from a cloud pioneer into an AI-first platform built to power the next generation of enterprise growth.
Where ERP Thinks Back
The Big Themes:
- NetSuite Next as a Hands-On AI Partner: NetSuite Next isn’t just layering AI on top of old systems, it’s embedding intelligence directly into the platform. Instead of hunting through menus, users can say, “Analyze sales for the past six months,” and get an instant, interactive response. The idea is to move from manual navigation to guided collaboration. This shift redefines usability for ERP.
- Customization and Agentic Flexibility: NetSuite Next extends Oracle’s agentic AI vision by letting businesses build custom AI agents that automate unique internal workflows. Goldberg highlights three pillars of NetSuite: the suite’s breadth, its deep industry specialization, and its adaptability to each business’s unique needs. The AI doesn’t erase distinct business models; it amplifies them.
- Strength in Oracle’s Ecosystem: As part of Oracle, NetSuite now sits atop one of the world’s most advanced technology stacks. Goldberg credits Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI), the unified data model, and the Redwood design system as key differentiators against rivals. He emphasizes collaboration with Oracle Fusion, OCI, and the database teams as a unique advantage.
The Big Quote: “You don’t have to dig through lots of menus and understand all of the analytics capabilities… it will be able to quickly bring up an analysis for you, and then you can converse in natural language to hone in on the things that you think are most important."
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explore how SAP is finally delivering on its intelligent enterprise vision through AI, data, and role-based agents.
Highlights
00:14 — I’ve spent the last couple of days at SAP Connect, and I think one of the key things that came out of was this: SAP can now legitimately be called a data company. But the key now is that it's fusing data (data it's gathered across its applications for half a century, some of the richest enterprise data stores in the world) with AI.
01:28 — At the heart is its Business Data Cloud. Executive Board Member and Head of Products and Engineering, Muhammad Alam, said the Business Data Cloud is one of the fastest-growing products SAP has had, at least in recent years. He also noted that a huge percentage of SAP customers are already using the Data Cloud, pulling together applications, agents, and assistants.
02:14 — SAP's not trying to engage in an “arms race” over who has more agents. Instead, it wants to make it incredibly easy for customers to use SAP’s agents—or build their own. As the assistant gets to know a user’s decision-making style, it will begin to take more initiative. SAP also made it clear that its a strong future for applications—but only if they’re supercharged by agents.
03:28 — We’ve heard a lot, both from SAP and other companies about the intelligent enterprise. But what SAP did at this Connect event was very specifically show that this isn’t just deep tech. It’s about business value—for finance, ERP, HR, procurement, supply chain, and more.
04:17 — Many of SAP’s acquisitions from 10–12 years ago are finally harmonized. That’s why I believe the combined power of SAP’s data, applications, and AI is significant—but at the heart of it is the Business Data Cloud. As we move deeper into the AI revolution, it’s important to recognize SAP can now say: “Yes, we are a data company. And we are also an applications and AI company.”
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I discuss Microsoft’s smart strategy to integrate agentic AI into everyday consumer platforms starting with gaming.
Highlights
00:12 — Microsoft is rolling out its Gaming Copilot to Windows PCs and Xbox on mobile, following a previous soft launch to Xbox Insiders. Gaming Copilot provides recommendations in-game help, and further insights.
00:50 — Particularly interesting is the voice mode. This enables users to ask questions to Copilot using natural language. For example, a gamer might want to inquire about an in-game strategy or request a summary of what's happening on the screen — in real time. Once again, Microsoft is demonstrating its ability to normalize agentic AI by bringing Copilot to wider audiences.
01:25 — As the world's largest consumer software provider, Microsoft is a household name. In my opinion, agentic AI is not yet as widely recognized. Introducing Copilot as a branded Gaming Copilot in the gaming space — and delivering it directly to mobile — is a smart strategy by Microsoft.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I reflect on Nadella’s legacy and the parallels to other tech icons like Larry Ellison and Bill Gates.
Highlights
00:13 — Well, Microsoft seems to be setting out to ensure that it is creating the new rules for its own future. Its CEO, Satya Nadella, has picked a successor, and this is going to allow Nadella to focus the vast majority of his time on product development, product engineering, architecture, advanced technology, and more. So, big changes are coming at Microsoft.
01:23 — Nadella has spent the last 12 years as CEO, during which time Microsoft has achieved just phenomenal results. It now has a market cap approaching $4 trillion, rivaling NVIDIA. Nadella has totally remade the company. It was a bit of a mess when he took over in 2014. Now, one blemish I would say on Nadella's record is the issue of security.
02:35 — Nadella has named Judson Althoff, the head of sales for Microsoft for the last nine years, overseeing customers and partners, as CEO of the commercial business. His new role will involve almost every part of the organization, except product development and engineering. Marketing and operations report to Althoff. Operations report to Althoff.
03:02 — What Nadella wants Althoff to do is use this new role to get all parts of the company working in concert — very smoothly and fluidly. They said Microsoft's customers are moving faster than ever before, and this is going to require Microsoft itself to move faster than it ever has.
03:55 — Very few people could ever understand what it’s like to be in that role at a company of that size and that influence and say “You know, it’s time for a new adventure for me and a new way of operating for the company.”Bill Gates, in 2000, he said, “I just want to be Chairman, and I’ll be Chief Software Architect.” Hats off to Satya Nadella.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explain how Palantir’s unique model and alignment with AI trends earned it a spot in the Top 10.
Highlights
00:14 — Well, one company that has hammered its way into the Cloud Wars Top 10 is Palantir. With regret, I have to say farewell to Snowflake. So, I've noted here at the top a couple of numbers: 48% revenue growth for Palantir in its recent fiscal Q2. That pushed its revenue to just over $1 billion, which gives them a $4 billion annualized run rate.
01:39 — But I think the reason that's so high is there's an alignment between the demands that businesses have right now—to get their data in order, get their processes in order, their workflows, put things together seamlessly, to be able to take full advantage of what they're doing with AI. That matches up with the unique software capabilities, architecture, and business model Palantir has.
02:26 — Palantir takes those desired business outcomes and engineer backwards, using its very powerful but flexible software to determine the right approach. I've got a detailed interview with Chad Walquist, an executive at Palantir. Chad said is that they’ve got about 100 salespeople. He said, “You know, maybe, if we really do a rigorous count, maybe it’s 150, but it’s not more than that.”
03:17 — Palantir defies the notion of being plugged into any of the old-fashioned and somewhat tired industry analyst boxes. I think more of the big software companies are moving in that direction — doing what customers want and need, rather than trying to fit into some narrowly defined boxes that industry analysts have cooked up.
04:42 — Chad's title at Palantir is Architect. He's got an illustrious background as an enterprise architect, but I think, as you'll see in this video, he's also the person at Palantir who handles a lot of product marketing and marketing overall, a lot of their strategy, and so forth. It's a very different sort of company, and Chad does a fantastic job of describing what those differences are.
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Bonnie Tinder is the founder and CEO of Raven Intelligence, an independent B2B peer review site that amplifies the voice of the customer. She focuses on software customers, consulting partners, and software vendors and helps identify the best partners for their needs. In this episode, Tinder joins Bob Evans to break down what’s next for Oracle and SAP, exploring AI-native applications, agent ecosystems, and data openness, while offering sharp, practical insights into how enterprises can extract real value from AI innovation.
Episode 55 | Oracle, SAP, and the AI Shift
The Big Themes:
- Oracle’s Upcoming AI Agent Marketplace: One of Oracle’s most anticipated announcements is the launch of an AI Agent Marketplace. This platform will act like an app store for AI-powered agents, opening new monetization paths for partners and developers. It will enable third-party vendors to sell industry-specific agents and tools, further enriching Oracle’s AI ecosystem. This move reflects a broader strategy to position Oracle not just as a cloud provider but as a facilitator of innovation across its partner network.
- SAP’s Bold Vision: SAP is preparing to reveal its most radical AI shift yet—positioning AI as the primary user interface across its suite. Powered by Joule, SAP's AI assistant, users will be able to interact with software through natural language instead of traditional menus or clicks. Tasks like requesting time off or checking budgets will be handled conversationally. This paradigm shift moves SAP from system-of-record software to intelligent systems-of-action.
- AI Recruitment Tools Rise: Both Oracle and SAP are doubling down on AI-enhanced recruitment tools. SAP’s acquisition of SmartRecruiters and Oracle’s industry bundles for talent management signal a strong push into AI-driven hiring. AI is being used to streamline candidate engagement, improve matching, and personalize outreach. While some fear AI may displace roles, enterprise vendors are positioning it as a tool to find the right people faster.
The Big Quote: ““The hardest part of any of these transformations is the change management piece, and if AI can help make that change easier, faster and more comfortable for all the stakeholders—that’s the name of the game."
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I look at what the launch of Microsoft Marketplace means for frontier firms and innovation at scale.
Highlights
00:09 — Microsoft has announced that it’s combining the separate marketplaces for AI business tools into a single offering called Microsoft Marketplace. The aim is to deliver these solutions as an extension of Microsoft Cloud to support what Microsoft describes as "frontier firms" — firms that blend human ambition with AI-powered technology.
00:37 — Microsoft Marketplace combines Azure Marketplace and Microsoft AppSource, enabling users to quickly and easily test, purchase, and deploy cloud solutions, AI applications, and crucially, agents. Now currently available in the U.S., the new marketplace is expected to launch for global audiences soon.
01:01 — By combining the offerings from Azure Marketplace — which focuses on cloud-related infrastructure platforms and SaaS — with Microsoft AppSource — its marketplace for business applications, productivity tools, and applications built on the Microsoft technology stack — enterprises now have access to a comprehensive range of tools.
01:24 — This is just the latest in a series of moves by Microsoft to simplify AI adoption and implementation for its enterprise users. Similar to its decision to make Copilot Studio a two-tier service, Microsoft isn’t reinventing the wheel. Instead, it continues to provide services tailored to AI innovation while using familiar tools for users.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I examine how Christian Klein’s stance could shift the entire European tech economy away from imitation toward AI-driven transformation
Highlights
00:20 — A few months ago a lot of countries within Europe were saying, “What we need to do is build hyperscalers to match the ones based in the U.S.” Now, SAP CEO Christian Klein stood up and said, “That’s nuts. Let’s not do that. There’s a very different way to go on this.” And over the past few weeks, we've seen some significant investments coming from SAP.
01:12 — The investments are great, and all those ideals about wanting to have data privacy, data security, all valid in the AI Revolution. What really stood out here, more than these investments, was: think about what might have happened had the European Union spent trillions of dollars to keep up with the hyperscalers.
02:10 — SAP has a whole new plan for the sovereign cloud. Its Executive Board Member Thomas Saueressig has been involved in this. He said, “We want to have a sovereign cloud that gives the greatest safeguards and compliance to customers, and also gives them a great deal of choice. We want to keep this open for lots of partners to work with us.” But that’s the direction it's taking.
03:13 — So, we've got SAP pledging to invest, over the next few years, $22 billion in its sovereign cloud. Just the other day, I noted something about how Oracle, Microsoft, and OpenAI—now it’s about a trillion dollars that they’re pumping into these AI data centers. That’s really not the place for the European economy to go. And I give Christian Klein credit:.
04:14 —SAP partner AWS has now pledged about $8.5 billion for the AWS European Sovereign Cloud. I also thought it was interesting that SAP Chief Technology Officer Philipp Herzig came said, “We’ve got cloud sovereignty, we’ve got data sovereignty—now we need to be sure that SAP is a leader in AI sovereignty.”
05:00 — So, fascinating time here on the technology front. I think SAP is going to continue to do very well with its sovereign cloud efforts. But I think even more than that, its CEO, Christian Klein, really stood out. He did a great service by getting them off of this idea of imitating what’s already been done.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explore Microsoft’s new Facilitator Agent in Teams and how it’s quietly revolutionizing meeting collaboration through agentic AI.
Highlights
00:07 — Microsoft has added a Facilitator Agent to Teams. This new agent can create agendas, take notes, help keep discussions on track, create follow-ups, and even pressure-test discussion points. There's a difference between this agent and other note-taking and summarization tools already available. The Facilitator Agent participates in the discussion, as a silent partner.
00:41 — It can alert users when time is running out and ensure that participants don't stray too far from the core discussion points. It can even answer open-ended questions during a chat.
Now, as someone who has a lot of online meetings, I can really see the benefits here — not only from a time management and efficiency perspective, but also from a collaborative standpoint.
01:22 — It's important to highlight innovations like these that, at first glance, don't seem particularly new or exciting — especially when we think we already have the capabilities that they are presenting at our fingertips. Instead, this demonstrates the incremental progress happening in the agentic AI space. It's encouraging to see refinement in core use cases.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explore how Microsoft and Oracle are battling for AI data center supremacy.
Highlights
00:15 — I want to talk about a couple of high-disruption companies — actually, three: Microsoft, Oracle, and OpenAI. And I think right now, it's safe to say that those three companies, together with SoftBank, are pursuing investments upwards of a trillion dollars in what they're calling AI data centers. I think this is a great thing for them to do.
01:19 — Microsoft has become more vocal about its role and leadership in these areas. Oracle, OpenAI, and SoftBank are jointly building what is called Stargate, sort of the infrastructure brand for OpenAI. Now, Microsoft has introduced its own brand for its AI data centers, Fairwater. It's in the final stages of building what it is calling the world’s most powerful AI data center.
02:18 — And I have no doubt that fairly soon, we're going to hear from Google Cloud about some of its plans. I am less sanguine, in some ways, about what Amazon and AWS might do. I know that runs contrary to what a lot of people like to say — that AWS is still the king of the cloud. I haven’t — you know, I just haven’t taken that seriously in the last two or three years.
03:14 — So, Microsoft is doing very well with AI. Now, OpenAI, led by Sam Altman — they’re still doing some work with Microsoft on the cloud and AI. But it's putting — starting in a year or two — a $300 billion investment with Oracle to build a chain of just absolutely staggeringly big, powerful data centers under the Stargate name.
04:09 — It’ll work with Oracle very closely on that. They’re also — in concert in some places and separately in others — pursuing some new data center deals with SoftBank. So OpenAI is working with Microsoft, working with Oracle, working with SoftBank — all in different ways. Oracle also has its own data center network for its rapidly growing cloud and AI business.
05:01 — So lots of talk right now, lots of action, lots of investment going into this. But ultimately, the beneficiaries of all this incredible — what I think is unprecedented — competition, will be businesses and regular individuals like you and me.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I look at how Oracle’s new co-CEOs plan to blend AI, OCI, and industry expertise into a powerful growth equation.
Highlights
00:13 — Big things happening at Oracle. Safra Catz has stepped over and up to the role of Executive Vice Chairman, opening the door for two new CEOs at Oracle: Clay Magouyrk, the leader of their Oracle Cloud Infrastructure business, and Mike Sicilia, the leader of their industries business. I thought it was fascinating.
01:00 — Mike Sicilia, co-CEO, said in this discussion with financial analysts that AI enables new opportunities across industries, not just within an industry. With AI and better sets of data and being able to use OCI's computational power of OCI, new operating models and relationships can be created across industries like banking and healthcare and many other combinations.
02:25 — And so he said the foundation on the technology side — which Clay Magouyrk has been leading so much — is to enable all the leading large language models to work with enterprise-level data in a highly private and secure, fully compliant way. That's why the Oracle Database 23AI was specifically designed for that.
03:22 — Now I think this is one of those cases where we see companies pushing a vision. In this AI revolution, it's important for that vision not just to be a slightly better version of what we've done in the past, but something completely different. I think big vision, big imagination, and big risk-taking are called for here.
04:34 — Then, closing out the call, we had comments from Magouyrk and Sicilia, and in a longer article today on Cloud Wars, I go into some detail on that. I allow Sicilia to explain with a lot more color how these cross-industry ecosystems will work, and Magouyrk also offers some perspective on that.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I dive into how the U.S. House of Representatives is reversing its ban on Microsoft Copilot, signaling a major shift in government AI adoption and a strong endorsement for Microsoft’s AI capabilities.
Highlights
00:07 — Last year, staffers at the U.S. House of Representatives were prohibited from using Microsoft Copilot with official documents. This was due to concerns about House data security. Now that decision has been overturned. Mike Johnson, Speaker of the House of Representatives, said that technology could unlock extraordinary savings for the government, "if we do it right."
01:10 — This news has two key takeaways. First, as Speaker Johnson stated, the U.S. government wants to win the AI race. To achieve this, it must lead by example. This approach not only helps to instill public confidence in the technology, but also demonstrates direct support for the companies it hopes will drive U.S. dominance in AI.
01:39 — Secondly, this serves as an excellent advertisement for Microsoft — in particular, for Microsoft Copilot. With the House of Representatives selecting Microsoft Copilot as the first widely implemented AI technology to be rolled out to staffers — I say first because more initiatives are in the pipeline — they couldn't provide a more authoritative endorsement.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I analyze Larry Ellison’s decision to appoint Clay Magouyrk and Mike Sicilia as the company’s new co‑CEOs.
Highlights
00:21 — Oracle's entering a new era now with two new co-CEOs being named to replace Safra Catz. On Monday, Oracle announced that Safra Catz, is going to be stepping out of the CEO role and becoming executive vice chairman. She clarified in a follow-up call that she's still an Oracle employee.
01:10 — She'll still be there, eager to work with the two new CEOs along with Larry Ellison, as they've done, but that it's time for her, she said, to hand over the reins of CEO. Both Catz and Ellison appear to be extremely confident and bullish on the capabilities of the two new CEOs, Clay Magouyrk and Mike Sicilia. Why these two? Why now?
02:15 — Magouyrk has been the leader of OCI, Oracle Cloud Infrastructure. He's been the one behind a lot of the plans that has made OCI one of the fastest-growing businesses the tech industry has ever seen. The other executive, Mike Sicilia, came in as part of Oracle's industry solutions unit through the Primavera acquisition, focused on project management.
03:07 — Sicilia has gotten deeply into the business models of various industries: the way they use technologies, the way they want to use technologies, and how AI can be a true game-changer for their revenue models. They've been picked because Ellison believes that they can pull off his ultimate vision: hardware and software engineered together to drive incredible performance.
04:10 — They become indistinguishable, so their performance gets much greater, and that is going to be so important here in the AI Revolution. Also, Oracle wants to build this notion of fully integrated, end-to-end industry suites — not just, you know, complementary suites for HR or finance or ERP, but rather industry-specific solutions.
04:46 — Why is the co-CEO model appropriate here? I have not been a fan for a long time of the co-CEO model, but here's why I think it makes sense. Somebody had to come in and replace the legendary Safra Catz. That's huge shoes to fill. I think it's good for the two of them, Sicilia and Magouyrk, to know that neither of them is going to be expected to be a one-for-one replacement for Safra Catz.
05:24 — Larry Ellison, as always, has set a wildly ambitious technology agenda for the company. So, in addition to running the technology parts of their business, they're going to have to handle all the other things that a CEO has to handle — from finances and Wall Street investors to more. They've also got to fill what is rapidly approaching a half-trillion-dollar pipeline.
06:01 — I think Larry Ellison said in the press release announcing this, “I look forward to spending the coming years working side by side with Magouyrk and Sicilia.” Ellison is signaling he's not going anywhere. And Catz said again, she's not disappearing. We'll be talking lots more about this and related issues in the weeks to come, leading up to Oracle AI World, October 13.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I break down Microsoft's historic $30 billion investment in UK AI infrastructure — and what it really means for the balance of power between global tech giants and national innovation.
Highlights
00:05 — Microsoft has announced plans to invest $30 billion in AI infrastructure and ongoing operations in the UK. The investment includes $15 billion for capital expenditure to expand Microsoft’s data center footprint in the UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer said Microsoft's landmark investment is a powerful vote of confidence in UK leadership in AI and cutting-edge technology.
01:07 — This announcement was made during Donald Trump's second state visit to the UK. Accompanying him during this journey were Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella, NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang, Apple CEO Tim Cook, and OpenAI CEO Sam Altman. The U.S. tech industry holds significant bargaining power. A collaboration like this is incredibly important for a country like the UK.
01:35 — However, I'm also reminded of comments made by Siemens CEO Roland Busch and SAP CEO Christian Klein, who urged the EU to reconsider its AI legislation, arguing that current laws were causing Europe to fall behind. There's a risk that countries like the UK, despite financially benefiting from AI investment, will ultimately serve as a conduit for U.S companies.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explore how the long-dismissed "legacy" giant Oracle continues to defy the odds and outperform expectations — particularly in the cloud database space.
Highlights
00:14 — It's interesting what a little bit of time reveals to us. I was looking over Oracle's numbers last week. It made me think back not too long ago, 10–12 years, we heard about all the Oracle Database killers, these startups with different companies that were going to knock Oracle off. So that whole fantasy fizzled.
01:42 — There were some wild fantasies that some high-level executives were willing to attach their names to publicly. So here's a good one: The Oracle killer, was supposedly a new project by AWS — a database service 10 years ago, a database migration service brought out by AWS. It had been out for one week, and Business Insider called it the Oracle killer.
02:26 — The former MongoDB CEO, in multiple articles, prophesied Oracle's doom. He said they’d lost the heart and soul of the developers, that they were legacy, that they couldn't keep up. I wonder what this guy's doing now — see if he's got his storyline a little bit more tightly fastened to what reality is doing.
03:02 — We see that Oracle's cloud database services for Q1, which ended August 31, were up 32% to almost $700 million — so getting close to a $3 billion annualized run rate. And its multi-cloud business — where they've got the Oracle Database that wasn't killed, now being sold by Microsoft, AWS, and Google Cloud — that revenue was up over 1,500%.
05:10 — I love these startup tech companies — they’re creating lots of new value. It’s when one, two, three, or four of those startups start chirping about how they’re going to rule the world soon, and they’re going to be the “so-and-so killers.” That, to me, is a good sign that you should look elsewhere to give your business.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explore Workday’s bold entry into the ERP space and share insights from my interview with Gerrit Kazmaier on how AI and data are reshaping enterprise software.
Highlights
00:24 — Last week, 30,000 people were at Workday’s big Rising event in San Francisco. I had a chance to sit down with Product and Technology President Gerrit Kazmaier to talk about his views on how the Workday approach to ERP is going to be different from what we see from other players.
01:08 — Kazmaier brings enterprise applications, data, data cloud, hyperscale — all those different backgrounds, expertise, and experiences — to Workday. And now he's taken a very aggressive agenda in these first six or seven months, leading up to this notion of ERP. Workday moved into the ERP space with a lot of new introductions, agents, and more at last week's Rising event.
01:48 —And a couple of things that Kazmaier talks about: Kazmaier believes the ERP concept is right — giving business leaders a chance to see what's going on inside their companies from multiple perspectives with fully integrated applications. But he feels that the tools have been outdated, too difficult, too slow, too fragmented.
02:08 —So Workday, although for its first 20 years had avoided getting into ERP, now feels that the time is right to give huge value to customers. Also, for the Data Cloud, it's now got partnerships to enhance the way it's able to give customers better use and value from the data they have. These include partnerships with Databricks, Snowflake, Microsoft, and Salesforce.
02:54 —So that full interview with Gerrit Kazmaier, President of Products and Technology at Workday, is coming up here. It's got not just him in a new role, but also Rob Enslin, over the last several months, as Chief Commercial President and Chief Commercial Officer, and a new Chief Technology Officer, Peter Bayless, who came to Workday from Google Cloud.
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In this episode, Bob Evans chats with Gerrit Kazmaier, President, Products and Technology, Workday. They explore how Workday is evolving into a platform company, the role of AI agents in reshaping enterprise workflows, and why trust, accuracy, and extensibility are key to future-ready business solutions. Kazmaier also discusses Workday’s approach to ecosystem innovation and composable ERP.
Workday’s AI Future
The Big Themes:
- AI at the Core: Workday is reshaping how enterprises operate by embedding AI into the core of their business processes. This isn’t about slapping AI onto legacy systems as a side panel or assistant. It’s about redefining how people work, with AI-led experiences, purpose-built agents, and intelligent orchestration. From onboarding to payroll, Workday is transforming each layer of the enterprise with tools that understand business context.
- Open Platform and Data Integration: Customers demand flexibility and interoperability. Workday is responding by making openness a foundational principle — not just a tagline. Through partnerships with Snowflake, Databricks, Microsoft, and Salesforce, Workday ensures that enterprise data is not locked away but is seamlessly integrated across platforms. Whether you're building a forecasting model in Snowflake or enriching financials in Workday, the data now flows freely.
- Workday’s Focus: Kazmaier referenced a quote: “Technology evolves from primitive to complex to simple.” Today’s ERP systems sit in the “complex” phase — bloated, hard to manage, and expensive. Workday’s goal is to move ERP into the “simple” era. That means intuitive, intelligent systems that just work — powered by AI, open by design, and personalized for each user. The aim is to empower CEOs to drive outcomes, and employees to thrive at work, without wading through process chaos or outdated tools.
The Big Quote: “I frankly think that today, the default is that vendors have a slew of generic agents, they hand them over to their customers, and wish them good luck in figuring out how it's supposed to work. When we say, open AI platform, I talk about purpose-built frameworks and tools like our new Agent Builder . . . so that you can seamlessly compose, you know, workflows in the definition and context of your business and expect them to work with high accuracy and reliability, without becoming an AI expert yourself."
Learn more:
Follow Gerrit on LinkedIn, and read more about Workday and agentic AI.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I look at Microsoft’s decision to bring Copilot into the living room through Samsung TVs and monitors.
Highlights
00:02 — Copilot will be launched on select Samsung TVs and monitors. David Washington, Partner and General Manager of Microsoft AI, stated, “Copilot on Samsung TVs and monitors brings AI out of your pocket and into the heart of your home."
00:37 — Interestingly, Copilot will not just appear as a logo or button on smart TVs and monitors. Instead, it will take the form of an animated character that reacts and lip-syncs while conversing with users. The small responses will not be limited to just text and voice; they will also be represented through flash cards, including ratings and other important details.
01:17 — As users begin to encounter Copilot in multiple places throughout the day — whether while writing in a Word document, using their phones, or ultimately switching on their TVs or monitors — the presence of Copilot will become normalized. For me, this is the most important takeaway from this significant extension to Microsoft's existing partnership.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I look at Workday’s bold pivot into the ERP market — after 20 years of steering clear.
Highlights
00:14 — Workday has been having a lively week here in San Francisco at its big Rising event. But I think the biggest news here is that Workday says that after 20 years of saying, "Hey, we don't do ERP," now Workday’s going into the ERP market. But they say it's ERP for the AI Era, it's going to be powered by agents and AI.
01:05 — It introduced a fleet of new agents that will become available later this year or into 2026. Workday introduced its own Data Cloud. Workday is striving, it said, to be the most open platform company, the most open agents-and-applications company. They're applying more AI into all parts of their core platform and their existing applications.
01:59 — They're making it easier for developers to jump into this new AI and ERP world, where they are leveraging very aggressively 20 years of HR and financial data. And of course, now, with their Agent System of Record, Workday says it can not only help you manage your people and your money, but also your agents. So again, all of this is bound into their new approach to ERP.
03:06 — Now, Snowflake calls itself the AI Data Cloud. It's had a partnership with Workday. It's expanded that so Snowflake users can easily access all their Workday data and vice versa. Workday will make it as easy as possible for customers to take full advantage of its data, to tie processes together, to get agents to work together in seamless ways, and more.
04:06 — It's always been moving in this direction, but with its full embrace now of ERP, rather than in the past, when it either tried to pretend ERP didn't exist, or that it was above that, and they were leaving that to what they always referred to as the legacy players, or the dinosaurs.
05:00 — The good news is, with all of this, ERP continues to be — in its new modular form — agent-driven. It continues to be an essential force for companies to run their businesses as well. Glad to see Workday get into this. The competition is going to be great for Workday. It's going to be great for its competitors.
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Gary Miller, Executive Vice President and Customer Success Officer, Oracle, talks to Bob Evans about how Oracle is helping customers navigate their AI journeys — whether they're just starting out or scaling enterprise-wide adoption. He shares how Oracle is embedding AI across its entire technology stack, aligning partner and customer success strategies, and empowering organizations through tools like Cloud Success Navigator, Innovation Studios, and democratized AI training to deliver real, measurable business value.
AI-Powered Customer Wins
The Big Themes:
- Embedding AI Across the Entire Stack: Oracle is not just adding AI as a feature — it’s fundamentally integrating AI into its entire technology stack. Gary Miller notes that many customers are surprised to discover that large language models are being trained and deployed on OCI, and that hundreds of AI capabilities are embedded directly into Fusion Applications and Oracle Database. Once customers understand this depth of integration, they quickly shift from curiosity to action, asking for guidance on how to adopt AI now, what use cases to prioritize, and how to define success.
- Cloud Success Navigator Is Central to AI Adoption Strategy: The Oracle Cloud Success Navigator has emerged as a pivotal tool for AI and cloud adoption. What started as a promise in a previous conversation is now a robust, free digital platform that helps customers and partners create innovation roadmaps, prioritize features, and accelerate time to value. With over 6,000 customers and 235 partners using the platform since March, the tool enables organizations to track over 11,000 adopted features — including 450 AI-specific ones.
- AI World 2025 Will Spotlight Real Customer Outcomes: At the upcoming AI World 2025 event, Oracle plans to go beyond product announcements to highlight customer success stories. Miller will host a keynote titled “Bold Outcomes,” featuring innovative customers and partners sharing their journeys. Oracle is also gamifying the learning experience with “AI Industry Adventure,” a theme-park-style game in Customer Success Central. Attendees will solve real-world industry challenges using Oracle Cloud AI solutions, making learning both interactive and fun.
The Big Quote: “Customers are often unaware of how Oracle has embedded AI capabilities across the whole stack. Once they understand that, then they ask us for expert guidance on how best to achieve their transformation goals using Oracle AI solutions. I had one CEO, he said, after he saw this, he said, 'Well, don't let us fumble around in the dark looking for value. You know, where it is, point us there.' And so they asked, how can I start adopting AI in my current environment? . . . How do I define AI, success metrics, and realize AI value? That's the key thing."
More from Gary Miller and Oracle:
Connect with Gary Miller on LinkedIn or learn more about Oracle and AI.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I’m sharing why Revolut’s decision to scale with Google Cloud shows the power of AI-first infrastructure in fintech.
Highlights
00:03 — While I'm almost 100% certain that everyone is very familiar with Google Cloud, perhaps fewer are aware of Revolut. This fintech company, started in the UK in 2015, now serves 60 million people globally with a range of financial products. Revolut and Google Cloud have announced the two companies are significantly expanding their strategic partnership.
01:01 —Tara Brady, President of Google Cloud EMEA, said: "Revolut is consistently pushing the boundaries of the financial sector. Google is proud to provide the secure, scalable, and intelligent infrastructure powered by our leading AI to fuel this ambitious global expansion and help it deliver the next generation of financial services to a new audience."
01:26 — This is a great example of how AI-enhanced infrastructure is enabling companies to achieve incredibly ambitious targets—such as increasing a customer base from 60 million to 100 million users. Not only does it support the existing tools that companies already rely on, like data storage, access, and security, but it also allows them to think bigger.
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Highlights
00:12 — Now on the Cloud Wars Top 10 growth chart, this is one of the great representations of this greatest growth market the world has ever known, and for about the sixth or seventh straight quarter, Google Cloud emerges as the world’s hottest major cloud vendor, 32% growth, but Oracle and Microsoft were also rocking recently, and it overall shows a picture of enormous growth here.
00:37 — Of the Cloud Wars Top 10 companies, only one, that was SAP, reported declining growth rate from Q1 to Q2, all the others went up. So let’s take a look at those. As I said, Google Cloud up 32% to 13.6 billion, Snowflake, the smallest company on the Cloud Wars Top 10, also up 32% to 1.1 billion. Oracle was up 28% to 7.2 billion.
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01:03 — Those are nice numbers. But the big thing for Oracle is it has had just an absolutely explosive RPO. Oracle’s RPO is $455 billion. Microsoft, another remarkable quarter growth rate of 27% of $46.7 billion. Now it’s interesting that the quarter before that, Microsoft’s growth rate was 20% so it went from 20 to 27. Google Cloud over the last two quarters, went from 28% to 32%.
02:09 — Then if we look at AWS, 17.5% to 30.9 billion, excellent numbers, and in any, just about any other industry that would be seen as by far the best. But look at this growth rate, 17.5% for AWS, 27% for Microsoft, one of its major competitors, 32% growth rate, almost twice as high as AWS for Google Cloud. Yes, AWS is big, but it doesn’t account for almost like a 2X difference there.
03:47 — I think what we see with Google Cloud now that it’s established themselves as a very high flyer here, but I think we’re going to see Oracle to keep moving up. Microsoft, at the size of its revenue base, to grow 27% is extraordinary.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I unpack how Oracle’s $455B RPO surge signals a massive shift in cloud leadership.
Highlights
00:15 — We see across the Cloud Wars Top 10 an incredible sense of demand from businesses across the world — to help those businesses create their futures. And in fact, we've now got, just among the four hyperscalers, a pipeline totaling $1.1 trillion. We've got Oracle in the top spot there at $455 billion. Microsoft is number two in the RPO race, $368 billion.
01:17 — So here, I've got the four hyperscalers with RPO and the RPO growth rate, then quarterly revenue and quarterly growth rate. Oracle is on the top, its RPO now sits at close to half a trillion dollars, with a growth rate of 359%. Microsoft: $368 billion in RPO, up a whopping 37%, off that huge base. Quarterly revenue for the Microsoft Cloud — almost $47 billion, up 27%.
02:25 — AWS' RPO is now $195 billion, up about 25%. That's coming off its Q2 revenue of almost $31 billion, up 17.5%. AWS is growing more slowly than the other hyperscalers. Google Cloud: backlog $106 billion, up 38%. For Q2, Google Cloud revenue at $13.6 billion, up 32%. So it was the fastest-growing in Q1, doing very well here.
03:33 — Now altogether, this adds up to $1.1 trillion. I'm just not used to saying “trillion.” Got to get more used to that as this market gets bigger. Oracle CEO Safra Catz said that there were multiple huge deals that Oracle signed for Oracle Cloud Infrastructure, and more coming. Catz said that, “We anticipate that in the near future, Oracle's RPO will reach $500 billion — half a trillion.”
04:32 — Going into the future, as AI comes along and changes so much, RPO — or backlog — gives us a great idea of who the hot companies are coming up. And right now, undisputedly, that is Oracle. The other three companies are doing quite well, but I think AWS has become the “slowpoke” in this sprint that the others are undertaking.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I break down how Microsoft is redefining the agentic AI landscape with Copilot Studio Lite and Full Experience, offering tailored tools for both low-code creators and enterprise-grade developers.
Highlights
00:03 — Microsoft has announced the launch of Copilot Studio Lite and Copilot Studio Full Experience, two versions of Copilot that, in the words of Principal Solution Architect Rémi Dyon, "empower everyone from information workers to developers to build intelligent agents tailored to their needs."
00:23 — Microsoft Copilot Studio is a low-code platform that enables users to build and customize AI agents to operate across Microsoft 365 and LOB (line-of-business) systems. Now, Copilot Studio provides two ways to operate: a Lite experience (formerly Agent Builder), which is integrated directly into the Microsoft 365 Copilot app, or a Full Experience, as a standalone web portal.
01:17 — When choosing which option is right for you, Microsoft suggests acknowledging four key criteria: audience, deployment, scope, functionality, and governance needs. Dyon describes the changes as a "clarity upgrade," which is significant.
01:34 — The AIWars have evolved into the Agentic AI Wars. One defining trend is the emphasis on clarity. This clarity applies to how tools are operated, the range of users who can access them, and marketing strategies. A simple name change like this may not seem like a huge leap, but Microsoft is defining a category focused on agent development rather than just agent deployment.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I break down how Oracle’s $455 billion RPO surge is being driven by Larry Ellison’s bold vision to lead not just in AI training — but in the even larger market of AI inferencing.
Highlights
00:46 — First, Ellison talked about AI training. Then, he discussed AI inferencing, which will be much, much bigger than AI training. Ellison said that AI inferencing will be used for everything — from robotic cars, robotic factories, and robotic greenhouses, to biomolecular synthesis to come up with new drugs.
01:20 — He said, “We think Oracle is particularly well-positioned to go after this because of Oracle's history.” He said AI inferencing is the key, and Oracle is going to succeed because it's going to be able to provide data of multiple types for businesses that they can then use with these AI-trained models to be able to answer any sort of questions.
02:33 — So Ellison thinks, therefore, business customers using Oracle Database and Oracle AI, Oracle inferencing, will be able to get any question answered they want, and that will also help them develop the AI agents that Oracle goes deeply into. Ellison and Oracle are redefining the whole nature of what data means, what AI means, what's possible.
03:42 — CEO Safra Catz said she thinks that it won't be long before Oracle has RPOs above half a trillion dollars. So they're doing some remarkable things. Larry Ellison has always been a master of the long game. We're really seeing this play out here, and it's, I think, very interesting to see how he perceives these two multi-trillion dollar markets
04:15 — The Oracle way is to go after them both, AI training and AI inferencing. No doubt there'll be lots of competitors. It's going to be a great market — great opportunities for businesses. And as we always say, the biggest winners in the Cloud Wars are always, always the customers.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I discuss Oracle's amazing Q1 results.
Highlights
00:17 — Oracle yesterday released its fiscal Q1 results for the quarter ended August 31. And while its revenue figures for those three months were nice, the killer here was its RPO: remaining performance obligation. Oracle reported remaining performance obligation up 359% to $455 billion.
01:24 — Microsoft's cloud revenue is almost seven times bigger than Oracle's. Who's winning the most business out into the future? Several weeks ago, Microsoft reported its RPO was up 37% to an astonishing $368 billion, the biggest RPO number I had ever seen. Several weeks later, we see Oracle blow that away. It's got an RPO nest egg out there that is 25% bigger than Microsoft's.
02:35 — Now, Oracle CEO Safra Catz, in perhaps the understatement of the year, said, "Oracle is off to a brilliant start in FY26." My point there is, I've just never seen anything like this. Astonishing. And we can point to the OpenAI deal that's due to start in a few years, where OpenAI has contracted with Oracle to pay Oracle $30 billion a year for Oracle Cloud Infrastructure.
03:09 — Catz referenced a number of gigantic contracts that Oracle has signed, and they'll be talking about more soon. Catz did take the unusual step of projecting future revenue for Oracle Cloud Infrastructure — OCI — and its growth over the next five years, including the current year we're in. And I want to emphasize: These numbers don't include Oracle's cloud applications business.
03:50 — So, for this year — FY26, ending May 31, 2026 — OCI revenue will grow 77% to $18 billion. Then next year, up 44% to $32 billion. Then it's going to take a spectacular leap — up 128% to $73 billion. I believe that's when the OpenAI revenue starts to kick in. Then 56% to $114 billion for fiscal '29. Fiscal '30, up 26% to $144 billion. Again, I've never seen any numbers like this.
05:06 — It's a very different approach Oracle has taken. These numbers show just an astonishing future for Oracle, and I think it's fair to say too that these results from Oracle — and the indication of its future success — have definitely, completely rattled — turned upside down — the balance of power in the Cloud Wars. Oracle is the hottest hyperscaler in the world now, by far and often.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I dive into the growing debate between SaaS and agentic AI, sparked by Satya Nadella’s December 2024 remarks suggesting that AI agents could spell the end of SaaS.Highlights
00:32 — We've all been hearing a lot about SaaS dying — the demise of SaaS — triggered by AI, an opinion expressed in December of 2024 by Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella, who said that the rise of AI and agents is going to lead to the collapse of SaaS, the hollowing out of it, to become little more than a third-tier support product.
01:18 — Well, Marc Benioff said basically that this view, it’s just so much nonsense. And Benioff even went biblical. He said, we've got to be able to separate the wheat from the chaff, and we need to be able to determine what's going on here with SaaS, what's going on with AI, and what's going on with agentic AI. How are they going to play together, along with Data Cloud and so on?
02:26 — And he said, that's very much not the right question. He used some pretty tough language in explaining this. He said we've got thousands of customers who are very happily using Salesforce applications along with our Agentforce platform, to drive better business results. It's very beneficial to believe both in the future of SaaS and the future of agentic AI.
04:02 — And on the earnings call, he went into detail about how many customers now are investing heavily in Agentforce. And the number of new business deals coming in — or repeat business — on agentic AI and Agentforce coming from existing customers. The Data Cloud that underpins this and Agentforce, he said, are now on a $1.2 billion run rate.
04:32 — I wish that there would be a point at which Satya Nadella could say, with the experience of nine months now of feedback in the market and from people he's talked to: “Hey, I'm going to double down on what I said in December 2024.” Or he could say, “You know what, maybe I was a little too aggressive on that.” I'd love to hear that.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, ServiceNow’s push into CRM meets Salesforce’s expansion into ITSM (IT Service Management), powered by agentic AI.
Highlights
00:14 — While I'm focusing here on Salesforce and ServiceNow, and some changes each is making to get into markets dominated by the other, the larger point here is about how agentic AI is triggering new competition and new approaches. Today, I'm going to share about five repercussions with you.
01:15 — On Salesforce's Q2 earnings call, Marc Benioff said, “Hey, we're going to get into IT Service Management.” Salesforce is changing from being an apps company to a data company. It just so happens that ServiceNow and CEO Bill McDermott have been making it very plain that they intend to move aggressively into the CRM business, which has been Salesforce’s prime area.
02:34 — So, I'm going to mention big implications. One, these companies are looking for new hunting grounds — new areas to help customers do more and to allow these vendors to make more money. Agentic AI is also blasting out boundaries, because agentic AI, I think, optimally works on an end-to-end basis.
03:36 — Benioff, on the earnings call, said Data Cloud and agentic AI — Agentforce — are "at the heart of our company strategy", not their applications. Which leads into this: I don't think, as Satya Nadella said, “apps are dying,” or “SaaS is dying,” but I do think that agentic AI is going to change profoundly what apps do, how they work, and how customers can extract value from them.
04:44 — We are seeing agentic AI knock down a lot of boundaries. You're going to have more wide-ranging tools that let [customers] see all of their data, be able to develop end-to-end processes that are more effective, more successful, and give them better insights — and, mostly, better business outcomes.
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Highlights
00:03 — Microsoft AI CEO Mustafa Suleyman has published a blog post that criticizes the notion of seemingly conscious AI. He argues that the pursuit of this idea, particularly regarding AI model welfare, is misguided.
00:19 — Suleyman explains that these concepts are already causing mental health issues among users. He is growing: “more and more concerned about what is becoming known as the psychosis risk and a bunch of related issues. I don’t think this will be limited to those who are already at risk of mental health issues.”
00:56 — Suleyman argues that we should “build AI for people not to be a person.” He is adamant in his neglect of this previous approach, saying that: “The arrival of seemingly conscious AI is inevitable and unwelcome. Instead, we need a vision for AI that can fulfill its potential as a helpful companion without falling prey to its illusions.”
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01:18 — Meanwhile, companies like Anthropic, OpenAI, and Google DeepMind are actively pursuing AI consciousness or welfare research. Now, while there are complications and not everyone is on the same page, here, it is clear that the evolving scenarios and possibilities presented by AI are increasingly reaching into the realm of the surreal and in some cases, they’re fantastical.
01:42 — This is largely because, for the first time in human history, we have a tool that is evolving at a pace beyond which we can conceive. While some of these ideas may sound far-fetched, the warnings accompanying them are serious based on real concerns coming from leaders in the AI space, the ones leading this new AI revolution.
02:04 — What everyone must do, and though it will be challenging, is to start imagining the unimaginable. Once you accept the vast possibilities of AI, both good and bad, you can begin to take the warnings that come with them seriously.
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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I spotlight Google’s stunning 33x reduction in AI power consumption, what it means for the future of sustainable tech, and how bold innovation is driving the AI revolution forward.
Highlights
00:23 — Google says it has achieved a 33x reduction in power consumption for Gemini apps’ text prompts. A remarkable number. Google, rather than just saying, “Well, hey, we’re going to go invest all our money in getting as many users as we can, and we’ll deal down the road with some of the energy implications,” have said, “No—now is the time to do it.”
01:37 — Now it’s got a larger metric here that it uses for the total—what it calls carbon footprint—down by 44x. All of the details behind this have been released in a blog post by a couple of executives.
02:31 — Google has adopted a completely end-to-end approach to doing this, where it’s taking a look at all of the different technology up and down its stack that could have an input on this. And the data it’s collecting is going to give them a fantastic foundation to continue this effort into the future.The AI Revolution, we can safely say now, is not going to boil the Earth.
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03:42 — Several years ago, Google Cloud was number nine on the Cloud Wars Top 10. I’m not sure at the time why it was not number ten, but it had fantastic technology, but could not fully put that in the service of their customers. It was sort of like a mismatch. It’s harnessed it over the last several years, under Thomas Kurian, to be fully in service of what customers want and need.
04:44 — These breakthroughs by Google and Google Cloud, across the board (again, the details of this in the article coming up later today) show that there’s incredible potential to keep doing this. And I think it’s this power of innovation that says: Don’t be afraid of big ideas. Go after them. Dig into it. Try new approaches to it. There are better ways forward.
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Bonnie Tinder is the founder and CEO of Raven Intelligence, an independent B2B peer review site that amplifies the voice of the customer. She focuses on software customers, consulting partners, and software vendors and helps identify the best partners for their needs. In this episode, Bonnie shares seven hard-earned lessons from over 1,000 customer reviews, covering everything from data migration and partner selection to change management, over-customization, and planning beyond go-live.
Episode 54 | Avoiding Project Pitfalls
The Big Themes:
- Choose Your Partner Strategically, Not Cheaply: Raven Intelligence data reveals customers who chose systems integrators (SIs) based on price often ended up spending weeks onboarding the partner—because they lacked industry expertise. Others defaulted to familiar names or existing vendor relationships without assessing fit. A well-matched SI should offer deep, relevant experience—not just a good rate.
- Over-Customization Leads to Long-Term Pain: One of the most common regrets customers share with Raven Intelligence is excessive customization. While it’s tempting to rebuild old workflows in new systems for comfort or continuity, Bonnie Tinder warns this strategy almost always backfires. One company customized so heavily that their upgrade a year later cost nearly as much as the original implementation.
- Clarity on Requirements Prevents Costly Detours: Poorly defined requirements derail even well-staffed projects. A client lost three months mid-project because two departments had opposing expectations for payroll reporting. Before implementation, all stakeholders—from executives to end-users—must agree on goals, deliverables, and boundaries.
The Big Quote: “Vendors and SIs are really good at presenting the highlights reel during the sales process. What customers really need to be successful is the actual game footage."
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00:03 — ServiceNow has announced that it's joining forces with SENAI-SP to launch a major AI training and certification program in Brazil as part of ServiceNow University. The new program aims to train hundreds of users by 2025 contributing to the University's overall global goal of upskilling three million people by 2027.
00:30 — This new program will equip learners with technical skills in AI digital workflow automation and low-code/no-code development. Additionally, it will provide certification pathways and job readiness support, connecting learners with potential employers.
01:14 — AI upskilling is not only providing people from incredibly diverse backgrounds with the tools to thrive in a new AI-driven work landscape. It's also helping to level the playing field. Every country, regardless of its historical wealth generation, has an opportunity to excel in the AI space, and each country needs to provide users with skills and upskilling initiatives to do so.
01:42 — Companies like ServiceNow that are entering these jurisdictions with specific, targeted programs are playing a crucial role in shaping a hopefully more balanced future. In this future, everyone, from independent employees to companies start, from a level playing field with a brand new set of tools and, importantly, opportunities.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I dive into Snowflake’s record-breaking Q2 performance and explore how CEO Sridhar Ramaswamy is positioning the company for long-term AI-driven success.
Highlights
00:14 — Snowflake has been a remarkable story of growth and achievement—category creation here around the AI Data Cloud—and it reported last week a very strong Q2 with product revenue up 32% to $1.09 billion. That’s the first time it has topped $1 billion. That’s the good news. The bad news is that the competition is really intensifying.
01:16 — CEO Sridhar Ramaswamy said, “We’re also trying to continue to push out new AI solutions and technology as rapidly as possible.” There are startups and similarly sized companies, such as Databricks and Palantir, coming after it in that core market. But also bigger players (SAP, Oracle, Microsoft, Google Cloud, and others) are getting more deeply into this AI Data Cloud space.
02:06 — Ramaswamy feels that Snowflake is very well positioned around this end-to-end data lifecycle spot that it has. He has been repeating relentlessly over the 18 months he’s been CEO that businesses cannot have a successful AI strategy unless they first have a successful data strategy and are able to execute on that data very, very forcefully and consistently.
03:30 — I mentioned Palantir, talked about them some last week—and the phenomenal Q1 it had. It grew 48%. So I really applaud Snowflake for 32% growth. But here’s Palantir in a similar space—analytics and AI—growing 48%, which is a 50% higher growth rate than what Snowflake just posted. Databricks is growing very rapidly as well, doing some good things.
03:54 — Lots of competition there, but—as always in the Cloud Wars—the biggest winners are always, always the customers. Later, we'll have a long, detailed article on Cloud Wars about Snowflake’s Q2 results, perspectives from Ramaswamy, and some of my own thoughts about how this all shapes out.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explore how explosive AI demand is driving massive infrastructure deals like the one between Google Cloud and Meta.
Highlights
0:03 — Google Cloud has entered into a six-year agreement with Meta that's reportedly worth over $10 billion. The deal encompasses a variety of services, including use of Google Cloud servers, storage, and networking facilities. This is a significant deal in terms of the relationship between Meta and Google, both of which are continuously battling for dominance in the ad spend space.
00:52 — As the demand for cloud capacity surges, such deals are not just important, but crucial, given the fierce competition among top cloud infrastructure providers. And my colleague Bob Evans recently reported on the explosive demand for AI services — and how this demand has led to four companies spending a combined billion dollars a day on capital expenditure in Q2.
01:29 — Currently, Google Cloud holds the second position in the Cloud Wars Top 10. However, more deals like this — especially those that mean potential losses for Microsoft — could soon elevate Google Cloud to the top spot.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I, along with a special partner, dive into Palantir’s explosive Q2 performance, celebrate their first billion-dollar quarter, and explain why this 21-year-old disruptor is poised to shake up the cloud industry.
Highlights
00:13 — I’ve got a high-growth specialist here, Rory, my granddaughter and good buddy. We're going to talk about Palantir. Palantir, in its recently ended Q2, went over the moon: 48% growth. It had its first billion-dollar quarter. It says that LLMs — large language models — won’t work without Palantir software.
01:42 — There are incredible numbers. Its U.S. commercial business grew 93% to over $300 million. Now in Q2, as I said, its overall growth was 48% — over a billion dollars right over here. Then we’ve got Q3, it's guiding to 50% growth.
02:20 — Palantir’s future is really ahead of it. Palantir is not on the Cloud Wars Top 10, but I believe — I'm the one who picks the list, right? So I get to make the decision — Palantir is going to be joining the Cloud Wars Top 10 in the near future. I will have more on that to come.
03:13 — But the last thing I'd say about this is what this industry constantly needs is smaller, intense, disruptive, sort of agitating companies. And Palantir, believe me, is an agitator. It is going to come up and force other companies to do things differently because customers are having so much fun with Palantir software.
04:06 — Rory, thanks a lot for being with us. This has been fun talking about Palantir. They, like you, are a little bit of a unicorn. Happy birthday to me, happy Q2 to Palantir, happy almost-five to you.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I dive into Oracle's bold $1 billion-a-year move to power a massive AI-focused data center in West Texas using gas generators.
Highlights
00:18 — Oracle is set to spend over a billion dollars a year to power a new mega data center in West Texas, using gas generators instead of waiting to be connected to the local utilities. The gas-powered site is being developed by Vantage Data Centers. It will cover 1,200 acres, house 10 data centers, and have a total capacity of 1.4 gigawatts — making it one of the largest in the world.
01:00 — So, why spend a billion dollars a year on power generation? The issue is that obtaining approval for power infrastructure projects of this size using local electricity gridscan take years. The balance between progress and environmental impact is not so straightforward. While gas-generated electricity is cleaner than other fossil fuels, it is still far from clean energy.
01:33 — I reported a few months back on Microsoft's efforts to mitigate the environmental impact of data centers by changing construction methods, while Oracle recently floated the idea of using nuclear power — a much cleaner alternative to gas. I hope that, in the drive for success in a painfully competitive market, these core values and significant concerns for sustainability are not lost.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I break down Workday’s strong Q2 results, highlighting how AI solutions, mid-market growth, government expansion, partner-driven value, and global initiatives are fueling momentum.
Highlights
00:14 — Workday recently posted a very nice fiscal Q2, ended July 31. I pulled out growth factors from the earnings call. Just a quick recap here: for Q2, its subscription revenue was up 14% to $2.17 billion, while their current RPO was up 16.4% to almost $8 billion. So, strong demand for the recent quarter and the pipeline going forward.
01:37 — First of all, suites. Workday CEO Carl Eschenbach said 30% of Q2 deals were for full suites, which, in Workday parlance, is both Financials and HCM. These consolidated data sets, he said, are more and more vital to companies. Now they can use all of that data together for some of their AI solutions, and certainly on the AI side, there was strength there.
02:05 — Among existing Workday customers, 30% of all deals included one or more AI solutions. For new customers, that number jumped to 70%. In the mid-market, a lot of strength there with a new go-to-market program tailored for the needs of mid-market companies, Workday Go. In the federal government, Workday has created a new subsidiary called Workday Government.
03:04 — Partners are now generating, among new annual contract value, 20%. The sharing of data for AI, Eschenbach, over the last few quarters, has been touting the value and how clean that dataset is. There's a new president in India. Workday is building a data center in India to handle local and regional data requirements there—and in Germany and the UK.
04:19 — One of the high-growth areas was a recent acquisition of a company called Eversort, in the contract intelligence business. Eschenbach said that for Eversort, revenue grew 100% quarter to quarter. So that's not year over year, but sequentially—it is doubling its revenue from one quarter to the next. Overall, very nice quarter for Workday and CEO Carl Eschenbach.
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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I break down SAP’s strategic acquisition of SmartRecruiters and what it means for the future of AI-powered talent acquisition within the SuccessFactors HCM suite.
Highlights
00:03 — SAP has announced that it has agreed to acquire the talent acquisition software provider SmartRecruiters. SAP plans to integrate the company’s comprehensive suite of AI-powered talent acquisition tools into its existing SuccessFactors Human Capital Management or HCM Suite.
00:43 — Muhammad Alam, Member of the Executive Board of SAP SE, Products and Engineering, said,“Hiring the right people is not just an HR priority, it’s a business priority. With this planned acquisition, we will help our customers attract and hire the best talent so they can advance their talent acquisition agendas with speed and agility, while lowering their total cost of ownership.”
01:08 — Customers will be able to manage the entire candidate life cycle — from sourcing and interviewing to onboarding and beyond — all in a single system, to streamline the experience for recruiters, hiring managers, and, in particular, for candidates. The deal is expected to be finalized in the fourth quarter of 2025, positioning SAP very strongly in this unique, bespoke market.
01:37 — It not only modernizes the company’s existing HCM platform by addressing the complexities of talent acquisition in the post-pandemic landscape — issues that have taken many years to develop but are now highly relevant — but it also integrates perfectly with SmartRecruiters’ neat, AI-powered, cloud-based tools.
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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I explain how Oracle is transforming healthcare with its AI-driven, cloud-native EHR, setting a bold path toward intelligent care.
Highlights
00:02 — Oracle has introduced an updated version of Oracle Health EHR, or Electronic Health Record, for ambulatory providers in the U.S., built on Oracle Cloud Infrastructure. The new system features native AI agents that operate together as an orchestrated system for maximum process efficiency.
00:29 — The new Oracle Health EHR, was designed in collaboration with frontline providers and delivers the services that they require in a manner that's most useful to them. For example, it features personalized, streamlined workflows. In 2026, Oracle plans to enhance the system to include acute care, further expanding the reach of this groundbreaking technology.
00:50 — Now, this represents a major leap forward for healthcare providers, and Oracle is right to focus significant efforts in this direction, enabling clinicians to cut through the administrative burdens of the healthcare industry. Identified as one of the first major use cases for generative AI, it remains a priority, and Oracle is certainly thinking big in this area.
01:13 — In fact, Seema Verma, Executive Vice President and General Manager of Oracle Health and Life Sciences, said the following: "When Oracle committed to transforming the healthcare industry, we knew we had to start with the EHR." Note the commitment to not just supporting, but "transforming" the healthcare industry.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I look at how the four hyperscalers are now spending a billion dollars every day on CapEx to keep up with explosive AI demand.
Highlights
00:19 — The four hyperscalers — AWS, Microsoft, Google, and Oracle — are now spending, as of Q2, a combined billion dollars a day on CapEx to try to keep up with explosive AI demand. Here's where these numbers come from. And I will say here, I'm calling it Q2, but Oracle's quarter ended May 31.
01:00 — But these are very close for the four CapEx spending numbers for the four hyperscalers: AWS, $31.6 billion; Microsoft, about $27 billion. Google Cloud, $22.4 billion. Oracle, $9.1 billion — far more than Oracle has ever spent before. That's a total of $90.1 billion. We had 91 days in the quarter. So yeah, I cheated a little. It's actually $990.1 million per day. But I got a little crazy.
02:02 — Andy Jassy, the CEO of Amazon said, “You know, this is a new industry. It's pretty crazy. You know, we've built at AWS a $123 billion annualized run rate business, and we're still in the early days.” All of the business leaders are realizing that to be able to compete going forward, they're going to have to turn their businesses into AI-powered enterprises.
03:20 — They don't see this as a one-time seasonal boom that will go back down. They all say, “We think we're going to be spending at these rates going forward.” Oracle CEO Safra Catz, reflecting on the $9 billion that Oracle spent in its quarter ended May 31, said for the coming year, “We are expecting to spend more than $25 billion in CapEx — way more than ever before.”
04:05 — CFO Amy Hood gently guided the questioner through this, saying, “That is a lot of money, there's no question about it. But our RPO, or remaining performance obligation — we have future commitments at Microsoft Cloud for $368 billion in customer contracts, and we don't currently have enough capacity to meet that. It's going to continue to go up.”
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I break down a major move by the U.S. government and AWS.
Highlights
00:02 —The U.S. government is being given access to $1 billion in AWS credits for use until the close of 2028 to help bolster federal cloud adoption and IT modernization efforts.
00:38 — We're seeing companies in the Cloud Wars Top 10 and beyond offering the U.S. federal government massive discounts to secure contracts under the administration's AI Action Plan. Companies like DocuSign, Adobe, and Oracle are reportedly providing discounts of up to 70 to 75%. OpenAI is offering ChatGPT at a discounted rate to federal users.
01:27 — Secondly, there's a shift we're witnessing. Instead of clashing with the government, these companies are offering significant discounts because they're valuing the opportunity upfront. AI that aligns with the government and private industry will undoubtedly be safer and more reliable.
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Wei Hu is the Senior Vice President, High Availability Technologies, at Oracle. In today's Cloud Wars Live, Hu sits down with Bob Evans for a wide-ranging discussion on Oracle’s globally distributed database, AI-native workloads, and how Oracle is helping businesses meet data sovereignty requirements while delivering high performance, elasticity, and always-on availability across regions.
Where AI Meets Your Data
The Big Themes:
- Globally Distributed Exadata Database on Exascale: Oracle’s Globally Distributed Exadata Database on Exascale Infrastructure delivers something few cloud providers can: high performance, high availability, and full compliance. Built on Oracle’s powerful Exadata platform, this architecture removes the traditional need to purchase or manage hardware. Organizations can start small and elastically scale compute and memory across multiple regions.
- Agentic AI and Vector Search at Enterprise Scale: Oracle’s database innovation is designed for real-world AI demands, especially agentic AI. AI agents need massive compute, consistent availability, and extremely fast access to live business data. Oracle’s globally distributed architecture supports in-memory vector indexes for lightning-fast retrieval augmented generation (RAG), making AI more responsive and effective. Additionally, Oracle keeps AI close to the data — eliminating stale data issues and ensuring compliance.
- Built for a Sovereign Cloud World: Data residency and sovereignty are no longer optional, they’re legal imperatives. Countries around the world are implementing strict rules on where data must be stored, how it can be accessed, and who can process it. Oracle addresses these challenges withpolicy-driven data distribution, allowing customers to define how and where data lives. Whether it’s for compliance with India’s payment data regulations or Europe’s GDPR, Oracle enables precise control without requiring app changes or replication of the full stack.
The Big Quote: “The other thing that's interesting about agentic AI is that it's very dynamic. The work comes in, the demands comes in, like a tidal wave. Then it goes away, right, then a little, then when it comes again, there's another tidal wave. So, what you really want to do is have an infrastructure that is elastic, that can scale up and down depending on the demand."
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explored why the groundbreaking Oracle–Google Cloud partnership around Gemini AI marks a bold new era for multi-cloud collaboration.
Highlights
00:14 — It's a brilliant move by Oracle and Google Cloud to form a partnership where Gemini AI is now available on the Oracle Cloud. Gemini on OCI is pretty wild. Both Oracle and Google compete viciously against each other. At the same time, they're both customer-centric enough to say: " ... in this other area, we're going to create new and significant value for customers."
01:52 — Too often, I think tech vendors get into this mindset of: "Well, they're a competitor, so I'm not going to do anything with them — even if that might make life better for customers."I think those days are over. That's why I feel this is truly transformative.
02:08 — Both executives from Google Cloud and Oracle spoke in great detail about how this partnership will make life easier for customers. They also talked about how this reflects their new philosophy: "We've got to be open. We've got to give choice — regardless of where it comes from."
03:05 — Beyond Oracle and Google Cloud, I'd love to see AWS do some things with competitors. Microsoft has done some of this, but I think there's still room for all these companies to do more. It's the best of both worlds for customers: being able to get combinations of technologies and vendor capabilities rolled into single packages.
03:41 — You're going to have both Google Cloud and Oracle salespeople now able to sell Gemini on Oracle Cloud. Just like about a year ago with the multi-cloud agreements — where Oracle Database became available on Azure, AWS, and Google Cloud — those hard and fast walls that used to separate vendors from ever cooperating are coming down. And they're coming down quickly.
04:12 — What we see here is that tech vendors have to be not only world-class in the technology they're developing, but also in how they're willing to go to market in unprecedented ways to drive new and significant value for customers. That's going to be one of the primary yardsticks by which vendors are measured — not just by the power of their technology.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I take a closer look at AWS’s market positioning and the narrative shared during its recent earnings call.
Highlights
00:36 — I was puzzled by some of the math and the numbers that Amazon CEO Andy Jassy, speaking on behalf of AWS on the Amazon earnings call, used in trying to describe the competitive position that AWS finds itself in.
01:28 — We've got AWS, now on a $123 billion annualized run rate, and which grew 17.5% in Q2, which is extremely good for a company that size. The challenge comes in when you compare it with the growth rates, both in recent-quarter revenue, but also RPO, or backlog. AWS is far, far behind the other three hyperscalers on those metrics, or the rate of acceleration as they each grew from Q2 over Q1.
02:12 — On the earnings call, Jassy said the second player has revenue that's only 65% as big as AWS. So that has to be Microsoft. So he's saying that Microsoft's cloud revenue is more in the range of $75 to $80 billion, but it's more than twice that — $187 billion. I don't get that. Maybe he's trying to say it's only about infrastructure, but he doesn't say that.
03:46 — The issue is that the AWS growth rate is lower than that of Microsoft, Google Cloud, and Oracle, and it has been lower for at least the last eight quarters. Yet on the earnings call, Jassy said, "Sometimes we grow faster than they do, sometimes they grow faster than we do."
04:07 — So, perhaps Andy Jassy, who has been an extraordinary executive, I'm not questioning his overall capability, his record stands for itself. But Jassy is choosing to try to play a little bit of a shell game here, trying to say that Microsoft's whole cloud revenue isn't all there, or some is illegitimate — something like that.
05:26 — It's something that AWS has to address, own up to, and figure out what to do about it. And I think AWS is a great company. I don't think it helps AWS's cause for Andy Jassy to be using some numbers and representations of the market that seem to clash with reality.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explore AWS's bold new approach to eliminating AI hallucinations using automated reasoning and formal logic.
Highlights
00:04 — AWS has announced that automated reasoning checks, a new Amazon Bedrock guardrails policy, are now generally available. In a blog post, AWS's Chief Evangelist (EMEA), Danilo Poccia said that: "Automated reasoning checks help you validate the accuracy of content generated by foundation models against domain knowledge. This can help prevent factual errors due to AI hallucinations."
00:38 —The policy uses mathematical logic and formal verification techniques to validate accuracy. The biggest takeaway from this news is AWS's approach differs dramatically from probabilistic reasoning methods. Instead, automated reasoning checks provide 99% verification accuracy.
01:10 — This means that the new policy is significantly more reliable in ensuring factual accuracy than traditional methods. The issue of hallucinations was a significant concern when generative AI first emerged. The problems associated with non-factual content are becoming increasingly damaging. This new approach represents an important leap forward.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I unpack the strategy behind Microsoft’s $368B in contracted cloud business and Q4 surge.
Highlights
00:39— CEO Satya Nadella explained what was behind this huge growth in Microsoft's Azure revenue in Q4, which ended June 30. Overall cloud revenue for the quarter was up 27% to $46.7 billion. This is the first time it's ever released any revenue figures for Azure.
01:14 — Azure was up — I think it was 34% — to more than $75 billion. So, I divided four into 75, got almost $19 billion. It said it was “more than,” so I'm going to go with Q4 Azure revenue of $19 billion. And in Q4, it grew 39%. So 34% Azure growth for the year, spiking in Q4 to 39%. And its RPO (remaining performance obligation) was up an astonishing 37% to $368 billion.
02:09 — Nadella pointed to, first, classic migrations from on-prem to the cloud. He cited an enormous initiative that Microsoft undertook with SAP to move Nestlé's huge SAP estate from on-prem to the cloud. He talked about cloud-native applications scaling very rapidly.
03:16 — And third, he talked about AI workloads: the investments that Microsoft is making and the progress it is making on building out its infrastructure for Azure to be able to handle all of this new and rising demand. And he bristled a little bit at the notion that some other hyperscalers are doing more in the way of data centers and regions and gigawatt capacity and data center capacity
04:22 — So again, an extraordinary quarter there from Microsoft Azure, sort of at the heart of so much of this. We'll have a lot more detail on this in an article that we'll be posting later this morning on Cloud Wars.
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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I cover Snowflake’s investment in Hightouch to advance agentic AI for personalized marketing.
Highlights
00:03 — Snowflake Ventures, the investment arm of Snowflake, alongside Capital One Ventures, has announced an investment in Hightouch, a data and AI platform focused on personalized, targeted marketing. In 2024, Hightouch launched an agentic AI solution for lifecycle marketing called AI Decisioning.
00:35 — Adam Kaufman, Vice President, Global Head of Industry Go To Market at Snowflake, shared insights about the investment: "By building directly on top of Snowflake's unified platform for data and AI, Hightouch enables marketers to execute faster with less complexity and more control. We're excited to support their continued growth and innovation in the AI Data Cloud."
01:08 — This investment represents the confidence that major players like Snowflake have in agentic AI for marketing use cases. Interestingly, agentic AI for marketing was one of the first use cases to be discussed when the technology emerged not so long ago, and has obvious applications, particularly in the area of personalization.
01:31 — However, this level of AI-driven personalization comes with its challenges, like data privacy regulations — especially regarding consent, transparency in decision making, and data security. This investment by Snowflake Ventures is encouraging because it should help shape the direction of agentic AI-driven marketing.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I take a closer look at what may be the biggest B2B deal in tech history, Larry Ellison’s $100B+ agreement with OpenAI.
Highlights
00:15 — We've seen some extraordinary things happen with OpenAI and the alliances it has had. For the first several years of its existence, it was tightly paired with Microsoft. That has changed dramatically now, and OpenAI is now tightly entwined with Oracle.
02:01 — What Oracle said in a document it filed was that it has a cloud services contract that will pay it more than $30 billion annually, starting in fiscal 2028. I doubt that Sam Altman at OpenAI wants to go out every year and shop around for new cloud infrastructure providers. So, I think it's reasonable to expect this is going to last two years, three years, perhaps more.
02:39 — So now, OpenAI, aligned with Oracle, could have picked anybody. What happened to the Microsoft and OpenAI bromance? Going back to 2019, Microsoft invested $1 billion into OpenAI. In 2021, it followed up with more, and in 2023, at the beginning of the year, the companies each put out announcements saying: We have entered into a deeper, longer-term, incredibly strategic, two-way technology transfer.
03:38 — And suddenly we see this change. In just two short years after this big announcement by both of them, we see, in the White House, the first day of President Trump's second term, who shows up but Larry Ellison, Masayoshi Son, the CEO of SoftBank, and Sam Altman, the CEO of OpenAI, to announce a $500 billion initiative called Project Stargate.
04:22 — You could have looked at this and said: Microsoft is the biggest tech company in the world. It's the biggest cloud company. It has the most money. It has all these advantages. They'll never let OpenAI slip away. But they did, or was it not so much that Microsoft let it slip away as Larry Ellison said, Hey, I have a better approach. I have a better way here.
05:02 — But these shifts we're seeing — where new types of business are done in different ways, with different combinations and partnerships — are challenging the status quo. All these companies have to continue to do new and better things in new and better ways that drive more value and better business outcomes for customers.
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In today's special edition of Cloud Wars Live, Bob Evans talks with Kris Rice, Senior Vice President, Software Development, Oracle Database, about the rapid rise of AI, the strategic impact of the new MCP Server, Oracle’s unique approach to integrating LLMs with private data, and what to expect at this year’s CloudWorld. Rice shares how Oracle is meeting developers where they are, enabling seamless AI-powered interactions with enterprise data.
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The Big Themes:
- Oracle’s Strategic Integration of MCP: Oracle’s implementation of the Model Context Protocol (MCP) represents more than a technical upgrade. Rice explains that MCP, though technically simple, becomes powerful because of how it’s supported across AI agents, Copilots, cloud desktops, and IDEs. Oracle’s distinctive approach lies in integrating MCP directly into its existing developer environments rather than layering on new tools.
- Oracle Marries AI with Data Sovereignty: Oracle has the unique ability to merge large language models (LLMs) with enterprise-grade data privacy and sovereignty. While many companies hesitate to use public AI platforms for sensitive queries, Oracle’s approach — running LLMs on private GPUs in Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) — lets customers leverage cutting-edge AI while keeping data entirely within their own virtual cloud networks.
- Oracle CloudWorld 2025: Looking ahead to CloudWorld, Rice promises more than vision — he promises practical value. Attendees can expect hands-on labs, demos, and real-world use cases showing exactly how Oracle’s MCP server and GenAI services can be applied immediately. From natural language-driven infrastructure provisioning using Terraform MCP to business logic queries run autonomously by AI agents, the event will be centered on tangible outcomes, not speculative futures.
The Big Quote: “I saw the other day that the Google AI Studio supports MCP. So you could literally go to the Google AI studio, drop in your Oracle Database MCP support, and talk to your Oracle database that's on GCP, and never leave the boundaries of Google."
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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I discuss Satya Nadella’s bold Q4 claim that Microsoft is the #1 cloud provider, leaving rivals to fight for second place.
Highlights
00:12 — Microsoft laid out a very clear, unmistakable story in Q4 that it is the biggest and right now certainly the most powerful, most influential cloud provider. CEO Satya Nadella used the opportunity of these unprecedented financial results to spread the word that, “We’re number one, and all of the other hyperscalers — Google, Oracle, and AWS — can fight for the number two spot.”
01:06 — Q4 cloud revenue was up 27% to 46.7 billion. Full year cloud revenue was $168 billion, up 23%. One that really blows me away, its RPO for Q4 was $368 billion up 37%, so that is remaining performance,obligation, contracted business not yet recognized as revenue. Then for Azure, for the full year, $75 billion and a 39% growth rate in Q4. So pretty powerful stuff.
02:04 — Nadella said, "We're the leaders in breadth of AI products and AI infrastructure." He said, "In our overall tech stack, nobody can touch us, and that's how we're able to deliver at this scale." He said, "We have more data centers than anybody else does," cutting against some claims that have been made by Oracle and others. "We are outperforming everybody else."
03:16 — I thought it was interesting that, without identifying those specific companies, he referred to our competitors and that we're doing more than them. Now, I think this was a smart move by Nadella, right? Because we're not talking about some technical features — these are the technological foundations that business leaders will be betting the future of their companies on.
03:55 — So, the hyperscalers with the best overall capabilities are going to be the ones that those business leaders tend to go with. I think it's a smart move by Nadella here to say, in my view, here's where we stand. We're out ahead of the others on all this. Now, I'm sure Google Cloud, Oracle, and AWS will have their own points of view on this, and I would encourage all of them to speak up.
04:20 — I'm not talking about name-calling, but a very clear and well-articulated, reasoned, customer-oriented set of here's where I stand versus competitors here. I was glad to see this from Microsoft. I hope everybody does it, and later this morning on Cloud Wars, I'll have a detailed article offering the verbatim comments that Nadella made about these different subjects.
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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I highlight how the rapid rise of AI — without the right security in place — could be the biggest unseen threat to your business.
Highlights
00:03 — IBM's new "Cost of a Data Breach" report has revealed that while AI adoption is on the rise, AI security and governance are lagging significantly. Suja Viswesan, Vice President, Security and Runtime Products at IBM, explains that the data shows a gap between AI adoption and oversight already exists, and threat actors are starting to exploit it.
00:57 — 13% of organizations reported breaches involving AI models or applications, while 8% of organizations were unsure if they had been compromised in this way. Among those surveyed who experienced a breach, 97% indicated that they had no AI access controls in place. As a result, 60% of AI-related security incidents led to compromised data, and 31% resulted in operational disruptions.
01:56 — In contrast, organizations that utilize AI and automation in their security operations save an average of $1.9 million in breach costs and reduce the breach life cycle by approximately 80 days. However, it's important to remember that 16% of breaches still involve AI tools, primarily in phishing or deepfake impersonation attacks.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I reveal why AWS’s growth, though strong in isolation, looks sluggish compared to its peers.
Highlights
00:29 — We're seeing a distinct split looking at the Q2 numbers. We've got three sprinters — Microsoft, Google, and Oracle — and we've got one stroller, which is AWS. Now, also, just a quick detail: the first three companies — Microsoft, Google, and AWS — all follow the quarterly calendar pattern.
01:30 — Microsoft in Q1 grew 20% to $42.4 billion. In Q2, that growth shot up from 20% to 27%, revenue for Microsoft Cloud was $46.7 billion. Google: Q1, 28% growth to $12.3 billion. Q2, that growth accelerated from 28% to 32%; revenue reached $13.6 billion. Oracle: 23% growth in what I'm calling Q1 to $6.2 billion. That growth jumped to 27% in its most recent quarter: $6.7 billion.
02:39 — Oracle has guided that its fiscal 2026 RPO — that’ll end May 31 — will grow 100%. So while its cloud revenue currently isn't that big, its RPO is enormous, and its growing very fast there. Now, here's the outlier: AWS. Q1 grew 17% to $29.3 billion. Come over to Q2 — again, it was the slowest growing — 17.5% to almost $31 billion.
03:21 — I think the point to look at here, though, is all four of the companies' growth accelerated from Q1 to Q2. But while the others all showed significant jumps in growth rate Q1 to Q2, Amazon — or AWS — was a modest half-point: from 17 to 17.5%.
04:01 — Taking their total Q2 revenues, who got what chunk? Microsoft: 47%. Google: 13.9%. Oracle: 6.8%. AWS: 31.6%. Who is grabbing more of the new business? Who are customers — right here, right now — signing up with? Look at AWS: 31.6% of the total, but only 20.8% of the new revenue meaning that it is taking less share than its overall size and mass would indicate.
05:19 — Now, AWS — I will say before I close here — it’s perhaps unfair, in the category of, you know, "life's not always fair," that AWS — almost at about a $30 billion scale — grew 17.5%. And in any other industry, at any other time, that would be lauded as absolutely stunning and fantastic. But compared to their competitors, it's not doing as well. So it's a wild time in the Cloud Wars.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I break down reports of a potential $1.2 billion cloud deal between Google Cloud and ServiceNow, and what it means for the ever-intensifying battle among the cloud giants.
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00:04 — Google Cloud has just secured a massive cloud deal with ServiceNow worth an estimated $1.2 billion over five years. In its latest filing, ServiceNow states that it's entered into various non-cancellable agreements with cloud service providers, under which it is committed to spend an aggregate of approximately $4.8 billion through 2030 on cloud services.
00:29 — However, neither Google Cloud nor ServiceNow would comment on the alleged $1.2 billion deal.
00:55 —This deal, although many details are yet to emerge, serves as a great reminder of how crucial cloud infrastructure is to leading tech companies — both those providing cloud services and those that utilize them. Now, while AI has dominated the headlines in recent months — perhaps we're looking at years even — the demand for cloud infrastructure remains consistent.
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business history.
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00:14 — Now, any question about this greatest growth market the world has ever known was blown away last week, when Microsoft reported its fiscal Q4 earnings. And I think Microsoft's Q4 results have to be regarded as the greatest quarterly results of any company in any industry of all time.
00:40 — Now, I cannot say that I have done a rigorous analysis of every quarterly report from every company in every industry there's ever been. But I will be wide open to hearing from anybody about anything that expands this. It could have grown even more, but customer demand is just swamping ability to build out data center capacity.
01:38 — Microsoft Cloud used to be a nice, healthy portion of its business. It's now 61% of Microsoft's overall revenue. The total number for Microsoft's remaining performance obligation: $368 billion — a phenomenal, huge number. But it grew 37%, so you've got a combination here of scale with an incredible rate of growth here on this.
03:31 — Azure in Q4, it grew 39%. If you look at the full year, Azure grew 34%. Now, revenue for Azure is over $75 billion. And the Q1 growth guidance for Azure is 37%. So again, even at these very large numbers, the growth rates are astonishing. Also looking ahead to Q1, which will end September 30, CFO Amy Hood said the CapEx is expected to be $30 billion.
04:45 — We saw Google Cloud last week report very, very strong Q4. It's up 32% to $13.6 billion. Oracle's reporting just spectacular growth rates. RPO in its most recent quarter was 62%, and they're predicting 100% RPO for their fiscal year, which will end May 31 of next year. AWS numbers haven't come out yet, so I will get to them later next week. But hats off to Microsoft.
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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I explore the fierce competition among tech giants to attract the brightest minds in AI as the race for dominance ramps up a gear.
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00:03 — As the battle for AI dominance among the Cloud Wars Top 10 heats up, the race for talent has escalated. The latest executive to switch sides is Amar Subramanya, the former Vice President of Engineering at Google, who was responsible for developing the Gemini assistant and had been with the company for 16 years, is now joining Microsoft AI as Corporate Vice President for AI.
00:28 — Ultimately, the stakes are so high that companies are now willing to shell out incredible sums to secure the best talent in the business. Recently ,OpenAI CEO Sam Altman stated that Meta was offering his employees $100 million signing bonuses.
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00:50 — Interestingly, this hiring drive by Microsoft comes at a time when the company has announced significant layoffs. However, this shouldn’t be viewed negatively. Instead, it serves as a poignant reminder of how the tech industry is pivoting towards AI and how these skills are becoming increasingly essential for workers in the industry.
01:36 — The AI Revolution is ushering in a new wave of innovation, reminiscent of the startup culture that defined the Silicon Valley boom. Companies that wish to hire the best talent need to keep this in mind and embrace the desire of tech executives to explore new ideas and innovate beyond the confines of the copy-paste approach that has come to characterize many technologies.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I share how IBM has built a $7.5 billion GenAI business in just 18 months, transforming everything from mainframes to consulting under the bold leadership of CEO Arvind Krishna.
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00:13 — IBM last week reported its Q2 numbers. Very impressive. I thought one of the most interesting points was that in just 18 months, IBM has built up a GenAI business with a revenue run rate of $7.5 billion. And that GenAI impact is cutting across IBM's entire, huge product portfolio, everything from mainframes to software to consulting.
01:00 —This is a company that's 114 years young. And if you were to stack up all the startups or companies of any age that launched AI businesses within the last 18 months, I wonder how many of those would now have revenue of $7.5 billion. But IBM is right there, smack in the middle of that business. Krishna said GenAI's sparking growth in everything — even with mainframes.
02:16 — And on the software level, Krishna said that this new rise of the AI products within IBM are helping to improve products it currently has, like Apptio, Turbonomic, and HashiCorp, adding additional value to them. Now, one area where Krishna said there could be a little bit of cannibalization is in the broad area of consulting.
03:29 — This is all another sign of the remarkable job that Arvind Krishna has done in his five years now as the CEO at IBM. It's hard to recall, as well as the company's doing now and the innovation that's underway, what a mess it was five years ago when Krishna took over. IBM now has a fantastic portfolio of partnerships with many of the Cloud Wars Top 10 companies.
04:30 — So again, a big turnover here in the products, the technologies that come to use, how it goes to market, and the culture that it takes out to clients to let them know: We at IBM are very happy to bring together the best of the best companies in the world to drive new value for those clients. So hats off to IBM. Very nice quarter.
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Bonnie Tinder is the founder and CEO of Raven Intelligence, an independent B2B peer review site that amplifies the voice of the customer. She focuses on software customers, consulting partners, and software vendors, and helps identify the best partners for their needs. In this episode, she joins Bob Evans to talk about the shifting landscape of enterprise consulting, the rise of AI-driven delivery models, and what these changes mean for both firms and customers navigating digital transformation.
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The Big Themes:
- The Traditional Consulting Model Is Quietly Collapsing: The traditional consulting model, built on large teams, playbooks, and high overhead, is no longer viable in the AI-native era. The shift is not a dramatic crash but a slow erosion of outdated practices. Customers no longer accept vague deliverables, bloated staffing, and unclear pricing. Instead, they demand speed, transparency, and clear outcomes.
- Smaller, Nimble Firms Are Positioned to Win: AI and generative tools are leveling the playing field for smaller consultancies. Bonnie argues that boutique firms — once at a disadvantage against the scale of major global consultancies — can now compete on an equal footing due to AI’s democratization of data analysis, automation, and service delivery. These smaller firms often move faster, customize more effectively, and offer high-touch support without layers of bureaucracy.
- Transparency Is the New Currency of Trust: Bonnie criticizes large consulting firms for their persistent lack of transparency. Many resist public reviews, avoid accountability, and cherry-pick what gets showcased — raising red flags for discerning clients. She argues that in an era of instant data and shared experience, opacity is no longer acceptable. The future of consulting depends on a firm’s willingness to open itself to scrutiny and prove its worth.
The Big Quote: “The disruption isn't necessarily a slowdown in the need for consulting. It's just the shift in how technology is getting delivered. It's in what the value of the consultant is. It's no longer building codes and the architecture as much as it is the change management and the ability to help customers make good, fast decisions."
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I spotlight a powerful joint message from two of Europe’s top tech CEOs, Siemens CEO Roland Busch and SAP CEO Christian Klein, who are urging the European Union to reconsider its AI legislation.
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00:03 — The CEOs of Siemens and SAP have urged the EU to reconsider its AI legislation, expressing concerns that the current law hinders innovation. SAP CEO Christian Klein and Siemens CEO Roland Busch are advocating for a new regulatory framework that supports AI innovation rather than stifling it. Busch cited the EU's AI Act as the reason that Europe is falling behind.
00:46 — Klein echoed these concerns. Both CEOs believe the first step should be reevaluating the existing legislation affecting AI innovators in Europe. While the AI Act is designed to ensure the safe development and deployment of AI technologies, it also risks stifling innovation.
01:17 — This can lead to monopolization and hold back key innovators in the EU who are working collectively with their global partners to create what will become the cornerstones of the AI era. And there's a strong case for collaboration here. Both tech companies and legislators need to align in establishing the foundations for a thriving yet safe AI operations landscape.
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Kim Lynch is the Executive Vice President of Government, Defense, and Intelligence, Oracle. She and Bob Evans sit down to discuss how public sector organizations are accelerating digital transformation with AI, cloud, and secure infrastructure. They explore critical challenges like regulatory compliance, procurement complexity, and legacy system modernization, as well as the growing need for scalable, mission-ready solutions. Kim also introduces Oracle’s Defense Ecosystem initiative.
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The Big Themes:
- Oracle’s Role in Modernizing Government Technology: Oracle is taking a central role in transforming how government agencies operate by modernizing legacy systems and aligning technology with evolving mission needs. Lynch discusses how Oracle’s next-generation cloud infrastructure is purpose-built for mission workloads, offering flexibility, scalability, and AI-ready capabilities.
- Defense Innovation Through Ecosystem Collaboration: A key theme from the discussion is Oracle’s launch of a dedicated defense ecosystem designed to spur innovation in mission-critical environments. Partnerships with startups and emerging tech providers help address complex defense challenges at both tactical and strategic levels. From compact “backpack” clouds to full-scale three-rack deployments, Oracle is delivering infrastructure that supports edge computing, secure communications, and global scalability.
- AI, Data Ownership, and Customer-Centric Cloud Strategy: Oracle is focused on unlocking AI's full potential through advanced data management. Its cloud strategy centers on customer choice, flexibility, and data sovereignty, i.e, giving agencies the ability to deploy AI tools wherever they need them, whether in public cloud, on-premises, or at the tactical edge. Oracle Cloud services come with built-in support for autonomous databases and AI-ready infrastructure, but without vendor lock-in or data movement penalties.
The Big Quote: “[Coming into the defense market] is challenging, and we can be a helpful guide, because we have done it for so long. We have the classified space. We know how to work the procurement system, to be able to respond to classified procurements, [and] that's not easy for startups, to be able to understand all you need to do to be able to respond to the government's requirements. So we are sharing that knowledge and providing an umbrella ecosystem to help others be successful in the space, because we know we all win when the best technology gets in the hands of our customers."
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I spotlight the 30% surge in $20M+ customers as proof of ServiceNow’s enterprise momentum.
Highlights
00:48 — Let me briefly touch on some of the key numbers from ServiceNow in Q2. So, the top line there: Subscription revenue was up 22.5% to $3.11 billion. Big jump in total RPO, or Remaining Performance Obligation, up 29% to almost $24 billion. I want to point out, too, the subscription revenue growth in Q2 — 22.5% — that’s a big jump from the Q1 growth rate of 19.1%.
01:29 — Very nice acceleration by ServiceNow. Customers spending at least $20 million has gone up 30% year over year. ServiceNow has 528 customers spending at least $5 million with them in annual contract value. On the call, McDermott said: “People and AI together will create new business and new discoveries and will catalyze economic growth in every corner of the world.”
02:30 — It's too easy to fall into the trap of saying, “Oh, AI is going to wipe out a lot of jobs.” It’s also going to create incredible new opportunities. McDermott also said he was really focusing on this term of “AI work.” He said AI work is going to be cross-functional. He said this will lead to big changes in org charts — they’re going to be very different from how they were before.
03:28 —McDermott talked about the unique role that ServiceNow plays in the industry. It's not an applications company. It’s not an infrastructure company. It's an AI platform company. And it has found a way to be able to collaborate with almost all of the Cloud Wars Top 10 companies, and do so in a way, as McDermott likes to say, where for ServiceNow to win, no one else has to lose.
04:31 — So, bullishness out the ears McDermott on this earnings call. Not only is the company doing well, but more importantly, as he said over and over: “Our customers are doing well and doing things they were never able to do before.” So, heady times here in the Cloud Wars.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I break down Google Cloud’s explosive Q2 performance — including a 32% revenue jump, a $106 billion backlog, and a surge in billion-dollar deals.
Highlights
00:14 — We saw a great re-acceleration by Google Cloud. In Q2, it recorded great numbers across the board. I think what this shows is that large enterprises are buying fully into the Google Cloud value proposition. It's made huge strides there. These are AI-hungry customers who realize they've got potentially a great partner in Google Cloud.
01:05 — Q2 revenue for Google Cloud was up 32% to $13.6 billion. The backlog for Google Cloud was up 38% to $106 billion. This is a number that Google Cloud has not released publicly before. It was buried deep in their numbers. But it brought it up on the earnings call. One quarter ago, it was about $90 billion. It's now at $106 billion. Billion-dollar deals surged.
02:39 — It added 28% more in Q2 than it did in Q1 — huge. Again, a sense of momentum. It's bringing in new revenue, new customers, new prospects. Also, Google Cloud’s parent company, Alphabet, is boosting CapEx by $10 billion for this year — up from the original $75 billion plan.
03:38 — I’ll be looking to see, on July 30, when Microsoft releases its numbers: did they see the same kind of growth acceleration that Google Cloud did? In Q1, Google Cloud’s revenue grew 28%. This quarter, it improved to 32%. While Microsoft’s cloud business is much bigger than Google Cloud, it’s understandable that Google Cloud would have a higher growth rate.
04:35 — Google Cloud is doing a lot of things right — from its AI-native technology and cloud infrastructure business, to what it's doing in data analytics, and the way it's forged partnerships with everybody: Oracle, SAP, ServiceNow, Salesforce, Workday. It's really opened it up.
05:00 — It's making it easier for customers to put together the complex types of solutions needed as we move into this very different future. Hats off to Google Cloud and Thomas Kurian for a great quarter.
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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I take a closer look at SAP’s Q2 cloud performance—24% revenue growth and a 22% rise in current cloud backlog—slower than past quarters, but still dramatically outpacing rivals like
Highlights
00:13 — One of the leaders in the Cloud Wars Top 10, SAP, has been the fastest-growing enterprise apps company for several straight quarters, far outperforming all of its competitors, which include Oracle, Workday, Salesforce, and Microsoft Dynamics 365. And they reported recently—SAP did—a very strong Q2. But there were a couple wrinkles in there.
01:02 — The cloud revenue was up 24% to $6 billion. But in Q1, the growth rate was 25%, so a slight dip in the growth rate in Q2. Current cloud backlog in Q2 was 22%; that 22% is well down from Q1’s 28%. It expected the backlog growth to moderate through the rest of the year. But this is a pretty big drop. It saw a re-emergence of uncertainty in the market in the second quarter.
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02:08 — He noted in the U.S., in the public sector, the DOGE impact has slowed things down a little. On the flip side, Klein said, Now, we’ve got some mega deals that are out there. He said, I don’t think they’re going to disappear, but they have been postponed . . . There’s a little more rigor in getting approvals for those. But he said, I think that will come through.
03:20 — I would also say that at the size that SAP is at now, it’s a $24 billion run rate,r 24% growth is quite good. And this current backlog growth of 22% in itself is also very strong. But a couple of quarters ago, its backlog grew 32%, then 25%, now 22%. So it’s fair to say, is a trend.
04:10 — Overall, it is an interesting time now for buyers, I think more broadly, since some of this uncertainty that Klein referred to around tariffs—I think a lot of that uncertainty is going away. We just heard this announcement of the U.S. and Japan in a $550 billion deal. I think this is going to alleviate some of the concern that SAP customers expressed and that Klein referred to.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explore how Microsoft is helping Thailand modernize its legal system using AI and cloud technologies to support its bid for OECD membership.
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00:03 — Microsoft is helping to transform Thailand's legal system using AI and cloud technologies. The company is working closely with the Office of the Council of State. This effort is a critical part of the country's ambition to join the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development, or OECD.
00:30 — At the heart of this partnership is the TH2OECD initiative, an AI-powered legal comparison platform built on the Microsoft Azure OpenAI Service. This platform automatically translates and analyzes more than 70,000 Thai legislative documents and compares them with over 270 OECD legal instruments.
01:06 — It's an interesting use case for AI. Here, it's demonstrating the technology's capabilities in action. And while it's common for companies to implement ambitious analysis and management programs for their internal purposes, doing so at a governmental scale is even more impressive.
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00:14 — Later today, we will hear from SAP about its Q2 financial results. So the cloud revenue for the past six quarters: 24%, 25%, 27%, 20%, 27%, 27%. I’m projecting 27% for Q2. It's even been stronger in its cloud backlog numbers: 27%, 28%, 29%, up to 32% in the giant Q4 numbers, 28% in Q1. I’m projecting the backlog will go up 29% for Q2.
01:34 — Three months ago, after SAP released its Q1 numbers, CEO Christian Klein did an interview with Bloomberg TV, and he said something that I think surprised a lot of people: “There has been absolutely no pullback on U.S. spending.” Now, you might suspect that there would have been—with all this doom and gloom coming up about tariffs.
02:44 — A couple of the big factors: SAP has shifted fully to AI. It's embedding it in all iits applications and solutions, in its Joule agent system. It's doing its launch of its Business Data Cloud, which fuels so much of what they’re doing in AI for customers. And also, its very ambitious ecosystem and partnership strategy has been quite strong and continues to be that way.
03:37 — We heard recently from Oracle CEO Safra Catz — she feels that Oracle’s applications business is about to kick into higher growth, and she says that it will become the largest cloud applications provider. So, a challenge coming at SAP’s leadership in that field from Oracle.
04:10 — I’ve got an article coming up later today with more details on my outlook for SAP. And later this week, we’ll be catching up on its numbers, along with those of IBM, ServiceNow, and others in the Cloud Wars Top 10.
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Oracle, Microsoft, AWS, and Google Cloud. Oracle is the newest member of that elite club and recently claimed that none of the others can match them in the cloud. This is a timely topic, as business leaders accelerate their move into the cloud to harness AI and innovation.
01:00 — Recently Oracle Cloud Infrastructure's President Clay Magouyrk stated that Oracle is the only hyperscaler able to deliver more than 200 cloud and AI services across every deployment model. Google Cloud said it's no longer about the number of services or deployment models—it’s about using digital tech to help customers build their futures.
02:02 — In the next week or so, I’ll be sharing Google Cloud’s full point of view and how they believe customers should really be evaluating cloud infrastructure providers. It’s a smart and healthy debate—one that gives customers visibility into how these tech giants are evolving. Which are truly keeping up with what customers value most today?
02:45 — I give Clay Magouyrk credit for opening this discussion and to Google Cloud for engaging with it meaningfully. I’m leaving the door open for Microsoft and AWS if they’d like to join the conversation. These debates are good for everyone because they help clarify what matters.
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Highlights
00:03 — Oracle shares jumped 4% following news that the company is poised to sign a massive cloud deal expected to generate $30 billion annually, starting in fiscal year 2028. It's a potential game-changer for the company's revenue and growth. The announcement of the deal has already been filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
00:31 — Oracle's cloud business has received a substantial boost of late. Last year, my colleague Bob Evans highlighted a significant milestone that was Oracle's cloud revenue surpassing its license revenue for the first time. Since then, as per the fiscal year 2025, cloud revenue has surged to $6.7 billion marking a remarkable 27% year over year increase.
01:01 — The challenge now will be managing future investments in preparation for such an opportunity in the rapidly evolving technology and business climates. 2028 is still a long way off, and Oracle will need to ramp up operations strategically. I have full confidence in the Catz/Ellison Dream Team's ability to handle it and to handle such a major push for its cloud business.
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closely with the U.K. government, which feels it's got a lot of "ball-and-chain technology" hampering the ability of its employees but also governments themselves to move into the future and deliver greater service to their constituents. It is looking to cut expenses via modern technology by up to $50 billion, and it's enlisted Google Cloud's help to do that.
01:25 — At the Imperial War Museum, it's undertaken a project to use AI and cloud technologies to preserve 20,000 hours of oral conversations with 8,000 different individuals who took part in various conflicts from World War II up to the present time.
02:16 — The Imperial War Museum's Head of Transformation said: if we were doing this manually, it would take 22 years. He said, with the solution that Google Cloud and Capgemini are proposing, it should take about one month.
03:00 — The third customer there is Morrisons supermarkets. So, a new offering from Morrisons that they built with Google Cloud, called "Product Finder"—pretty simple concept—but it helps customers find and get to the products they want and need in stores or online almost instantly.
04:06 — But I think each touches on this notion that you could say these address efficiency and productivity issues. But they also, by doing so with modern technology, connect directly to new opportunities—right? You want to excite and delight these customers, so they want to come back. They know they had a good experience. They're going to come back. Spend more.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explore Amazon’s massive new AI infrastructure project, Project Rainier, built for Anthropic and the largest-ever deployment of Trainium2 chips by Annapurna Labs.
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00:03 — AWS is building a colossal supercomputing cluster for Anthropic, a company that has received a total of $8 billion in backing from Amazon. Project Rainier is spread across multiple U.S. sites and uses hundreds of thousands of Annapurna Labs Trainium2 accelerators, and is set to launch later this year. One site alone, in Indiana, will feature 30 200,000-square-foot data centers.
00:36 — Gadi Hutt, Director of Product and Customer Engineering at Annapurna Labs, said the following: "This is the first time we're building such a large-scale training cluster that will allow a customer — in this case, Anthropic — to train a single model across all of that infrastructure."
01:26 — Now it's in direct competition with OpenAI, the only other company with comparable compute and training capabilities. This marks a major milestone in the escalating AI arms race, and by proxy, could be a big win for Amazon.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I analyze the recent Microsoft layoffs.
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00:14 — It's an ugly part of the free-market capitalism world, but what is inevitable in some ways — is layoffs. In the first six months of this year, Microsoft has laid off 15,000 people. I think we need to look at this as part of the new normal. It's an unfortunate consequence of the AI revolution and the incredible benefits and growth that it’s going to drive.
01:08 — I think we've seen a lot of people say, “Oh, here it comes, AI is displacing people.” These big companies are going to try to cut costs. They’re trying to reduce expenses. I think here, the focus isn’t on cutting costs, saving money, and dumping people, but rather on: Can we be prepared as quickly as possible for a very, very different future?
02:12 — And that’s what this AI revolution is going to bring. I think Nadella is trying very hard here to ensure that they’ve got their entire workforce aligned on growth opportunities for the future and all the changes that the AI revolution is going to bring to Microsoft’s customers, rather than, you know, piddling around with, “How do we save a couple bucks here and there?”
03:03 — Every process is ultimately going to be affected by this. It’s going to change how companies think, how they work, how they operate, what their processes are, how they grow, how they make money. Any company that wants to stay in business is going to realign its workforce to match up with those new opportunities. That’s what I believe Microsoft is doing.
04:27 — I think we’re going to see that across every industry, every region of the world. One of the outcomes is that we’ll see some people moved around to new opportunities inside companies, but we’re also going to see some people let go because they either don’t have the backgrounds, the mindset, or whatever it might be, to match up with what their businesses need.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I take a look at what the Oracle-AWS collaboration means for the future of multi-cloud innovation and customer value.
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00:22 — I think we can say now there’s romance in the cloud. Oracle and AWS are doing things in a collaborative way that they've never done before. The customers are swooning over this cloud romance. This is all built around the Oracle Database@AWS, part of a multi-cloud deal.
01:09 — This inclusion now, in addition to the heavy competition, also some collaborative effort is really a big benefit to customers. Just a few of the outcomes for customers of this relationship: they get more choice, they’re able to move on things more quickly, the security is better. They gain greater simplicity in how they do things.
02:25 — So the final piece about this is: What are we going to see here? Is this going to lead to a softer, gentler range of competition in the Cloud Wars? Are AWS and Oracle going to be like the lion and the lamb and lie down together and be best friends forever? I don't think so. But what they need to be able to do here is continue to find ways to work together where it's appropriate.
03:36 — So, I wish Oracle and AWS all the best. I hope they’re able to balance this new love affair with also a sense that they’re going to continue to brawl frequently and vigorously. That’s good for everybody: them, their customers, and the people who benefit from what those customers do.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explore how ServiceNow and Nicus Software are teaming up to deliver a financial intelligence layer that helps enterprises optimize their cloud, AI, and IT spending by unifying data across finance, IT, and business units.
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00:08 — ServiceNow is working with a partner, Nicus, to deliver a financial intelligence layer for enterprise tech. Interesting angle here: It's trying not just to consolidate the numbers, but to go beyond that. It involves multiple parts of the organization working in concert to really get not only the best data but also the ability to act on it.
00:34 — Tom Smith had a conversation with Ron Wastal, the Chief Ecosystem and Partner Officer at Nycus. Wastal described how this works for companies. It's in the category of Technology Business Management, but goes beyond that. Nicus is trying to bring financial teams, IT teams, engineering, and lines of business together to share this intelligence and collaborate.
01:22 — Again, this isn’t just about saying, “Hey, here’s how much is going on.” It’s about answering: Where is it happening? Why is it happening? How is it contributing or not contributing to business outcomes? That way, they can optimize the substantial dollars being poured into cloud and AI spending. These optimizations can really add up.
02:11 — Why ServiceNow in particular? Why did Nicus want to work with them? Ron explained that the IT data for many big companies lives in ServiceNow databases. That’s where they can find out what’s really going on. Tapping into those massive data stores allows them to have a huge impact.
02:38 — What Nicus does is put a financial intelligence layer on top of that IT data to enable a cycle of understanding, tracking, and optimizing IT spend. It's also leveraging ServiceNow’s unique workflows and cutting-edge AI capabilities to take action on these insights. That’s the difference Nycus sees in what it does versus others.
03:13 — Nicus has developed two specific applications—one for costing and one for planning. These apps are used across the platform to deliver a comprehensive picture of what’s going on. This is another example of how ServiceNow is working with world-class partners and ISVs to deliver great business outcomes for customers.
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I look at the ongoing relevance and success of so-called "legacy" organizations in the Cloud Wars Top 10.
Highlights
00:16 — Now interesting to see across the 10 companies in the Cloud Wars Top 10, we've got four that would fall under the sort of goofy legacy title. They've been around about half a century or more. And then we've got six companies that we referred to as cloud native. Interesting to see that right now the Cloud and AI revolution is fully underway.
00:49 — Because if you take the valuations of those four companies, Microsoft plus Oracle plus SAP plus IBM, it comes to a little over $5 trillion, which is almost exactly the same as the combined valuations of the six cloud native companies. My point is not just to play some goofy arithmetic game, but rather to say that there is a lesson here about the power of incumbency, right?
01:20 — If you've been in a market for a certain amount of time, something new comes along. You can try to ignore the new thing and say "No, no, we'll just power through this on our own." Or you can say, "Let me take the capabilities I currently have as an incumbent ... and then blend that in with his cool new stuff here."
02:11 — I mentioned the four legacy, so-called legacy tech vendors, Microsoft is say 52, no 50 years old this year, $3.71 trillion market cap. Oracle is about 47-years-old this year, $667 billion, SAP is 53-years-old, $370 billion, and IBM 114-years-young, and combined those four add up to $5.02 trillion.
03:14 — I'm not taking away anything from either side, but this is a remarkable example of how it's not just the bright shiny objects that are going to determine who's going to win or lose or start up with the cool new stuff.
04:10 — It also shows us that the mindset of companies is so important these days. We can't say, "Well, I can't make it. I am caught in the old world." But instead, "How do I take the new things that are happening, weave that into what I h
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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I take a look at how SAP is advancing its sustainability agenda by becoming its own test subject.
Highlights
00:03 — SAP has announced that it's utilizing its own sustainability software to further the company's sustainability goals by acting as the ultimate test subject. Its pushing the boundaries of its sustainability offerings while also addressing common customer challenges such as mass data management, compliance, and analysis.
01:05 — Solutions include tools like SAP Sustainability Control Tower, SAP Sustainability Footprint Management, and SAP Green Ledger. The company has been using these tools since 2022. From the beginning, SAP recognized that its team needed to consistently collect emissions data, ensure dedicated governance, and build on the carbon data capture element of the project.
01:37 — There's much to admire about this process. First, there is the trust and confidence element. SAP demonstrates utmost trust in its products and confidence in its ability to address specific customer needs. Additionally, this strategy provides an incredible opportunity to show customers how best to utilize the tools it supplies.
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Bonnie Tinder is the founder and CEO of Raven Intelligence, an independent B2B peer review site that amplifies the voice of the customer. She focuses on software customers, consulting partners, and software vendors and helps identify the best partners for their needs. In this episode, Bonnie shares insights from a recent Salesforce event, exploring how AI agents, data clouds, and robotics are reshaping customer experience, software implementation, and enterprise transformation.
Episode 52 | AI Agents in Action
The Big Themes:
Campaigns Are Out, Conversations Are In: Marketing is undergoing a radical transformation. Gone are the days of mass email blasts and no-reply addresses. Instead, AI is ushering in a new era of real-time, personalized engagement. Salesforce is leaning into this shift with tools that replace one-way campaigns with dynamic conversations. AI agents now tailor interactions based on behavior, preferences, and real-time context, fostering true customer intimacy at scale.
Unified Data Is the Bedrock of Smart AI: No AI strategy can succeed without clean, connected data. Salesforce’s Data Cloud addresses what SAP calls the “swivel chair problem” — when teams toggle between disconnected systems to piece together a customer story. AI agents can’t operate effectively if data is fragmented or siloed. That’s why Salesforce is investing in tools that unify sales, marketing, support, and financial data, giving AI a full-picture view of the customer journey.
AI Agents Are Already Delivering Real Results: AI isn’t theoretical anymore — it’s working in the wild. Bonnie pointed out two standout cases: University of Chicago Medicineand Ford Pro. In healthcare, Agentforce transformed an outdated, frustrating appointment system into a streamlined digital process, improving both efficiency and patient experience. At Ford, AI agents guide customers to ideal vehicle matches with minimal input, keeping users on-site and increasing conversion.
The Big Quote: “I think that buyers are looking more at the execution and fit of software, as opposed to the software brand itself. And I would say that that is a shift in the last year or so, especially now with the advent of AI and just the rapid pace that everything is moving so, less on brand, more about how are you going to offer me the complete solution and break down silos of data?”
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Ajay Patel is the General Manager of Apptio and IBM IT automation. He and Kieron Allen sat down to talk about how enterprises are transitioning from AI experimentation to real business impact. They explored key challenges like cost transparency, governance, and data readiness, as well as the rise of agentic AI to automate workflows at scale. Ajay also introduced Apptio’s new AI TCO and Usage tool, designed to help CIOs and CFOs measure and optimize AI investments.
Smart Spending on AI
The Big Themes:
- Enterprises Are Moving Beyond AI Experiments to Strategic Deployment: The era of AI experimentation is over. Enterprises are now actively deploying AI, particularly in sales, service operations, and software development. However, those achieving meaningful impact are taking a strategic approach, rather than letting teams experiment in silos. The C-suite increasingly sees AI as critical, but that value perception isn’t always shared by the wider workforce.
- AI and IT Budgets: AI now consumes more than 20% of IT budgets, yet overall tech spending is only increasing 4–5%. This creates a 10–15% gap, leading companies to “forward fund” AI initiatives by reallocating from other areas. A key challenge: there’s no standardized pricing for AI. To address this, IBM's Apptio launched the AI TCO and Usage solution. It helps CIOs and CFOs baseline current AI investments, measure unit economics, and identify areas to optimize or expand.
- Agentic AI, the Next Frontier: Agentic AI is key to scaling beyond isolated use cases. It enables automation at scale and connects AI investment to tangible business outcomes. From cost savings in infrastructure to better visibility in FinOps to boosting customer experience, the ROI is clear when deployed correctly. But none of this happens without data readiness, governance, and strategic clarity.
The Big Quote: "AI TCO solution fundamentally starts by giving CIOs [and] CFOs in the business a complete view of where the tech spending and AI spending is, and what stage is that? Is it in a pilot phase? Is it for training models?"
Learn more:
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Welcome to the Cloud Wars Minute — your daily cloud news and commentary show. Each episode provides insights and perspectives around the “reimagination machine” that is the cloud.
In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I dive into Slack’s bold move to restrict API access to bulk data exports, effectively blocking the use of its platform data for LLM training and signaling a strategic pivot toward proprietary AI control and heightened data security
Highlights
00:03 — Salesforce has changed the API Terms of Service for Slack, which will stop companies from using LLMs to ingest data from the platform. Ultimately, the new policy prohibits the bulk export of Slack data via the API and confirms that data access through Slack APIs cannot be used for LLM training.
00:21 — From now on, companies will have to use Slack’s new real-time search API. In a blog post by the Slack developer team, the company states that this new API eliminates the need for large data exports from Slack, keeping customer data secure while maintaining support for key use cases like permission-based search.
00:56 — Now, while Salesforce and Slack say the focus is on security, there is another angle being discussed, that this move encourages a shift towards proprietary technologies. It’s difficult to pinpoint this trend. On one hand, we see a push for interoperability across the industry, while on the other, Slack’s announcement on the real-time research API coincided with support for the Model Context Protocol.
01:25 — Data is still the currency that drives AI and sharing it recklessly with any LLM that requires access can be counterproductive from a business standpoint. Companies like Salesforce don’t want to be liable for data used by third-party applications, and none of the major tech companies want to stifle innovation with overly restrictive policies.
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In this episode of the Office of the CFO Podcast, John Siefert hosts Rob Ashe, VP of North America, SignUp Software, and Blaine Grzegorek, Senior Solution Architect, Sikich, for a conversation on the benefits of partnering with ISVs, top considerations when selecting an ISV, and the impact of AI agents.
Key Takeaways:
- Risks of building your own solutions: One major risk that's becoming more prominent is having the expertise in-house to build custom solutions. Another hurdle is the upfront costs compared to subscription costs associated with many ISVs. Oftentimes, Ashe notes, "You have to spend a lot of capital on new tools...to make this new solution or change a process." Grzegorek suggests a third challenge which is meeting compelx needs. Oftentimes, industry expertise is also required, as you may be able to build the technology but might not be ready to translate the business needs to the ERP.
- Benefits of partnering with an ISV: A big reason organizations turn to ISVs is that they develop purpose-built solutions to address multiple different situations and multiple industries. "That's what I've found clients like about it, there might be a core functionality out of the box but it doesn't really handle every scenario," Grzegorek says. Working with ISVs provides expertise in various industries to consult with to address specific issues and needs.
- Considerations: Because ISVs work on these types of projects regularly, they are aware of more elements to take into consideration. For instance, Ashe describes how ISVs look at the landscape within Dynamics 365. It's important to consider how the solution will integrate with existing systems, how it will impact security, where data is being sourced from, and more.
- Selecting an ISV: When selecting an ISV, there are some qualities you should look for to ensure unexpected situations are taken care of. "The documentation they have, that speaks a lot to what they're able to contribute on an ongoing basis," Grzegorek says. Clients are looking for partnership, and working with an ISV is a partnership. You want to be confident that you can reach out to your ISV and get answers right away. "It's hard to see that before you actually start that partnership, so I go to that documentation of what the solution has, what it solves, and if that stuff is detailed...that is a huge indicator." Initial interactions with them are also a good sign of this.
- Multiple ISV solutions from a single vendor: It's always beneficial to have an ISV that can provide multiple solutions in different areas. One thing to look out for, Grzegorek highlights, is to make sure that the ISV has good alignment internally. Integration time is also a major focus, considering whether you have to integrate or if it's embedded in the system.
- AI agents and Microsoft Dynamics 365: While the solutions themselves are very powerful, AI agents can add a new level of efficiency. Ashe shares an example of how individuals are now running teams of agents to automate various functions. There are agents fulfilling individual functions within Dynamics 365 that customers are already using, so SignUp Software is like an extension of the platform and the workload. "We feel like we have a really strong value proposition to bring back to Microsoft to leverage the strength and the roadmap of the platform, but then also have immediately valuable solutions that they can take advantage of now," Ashe says.
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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I break down the latest growth rankings among the top 10 cloud providers, highlight Google Cloud’s continued lead, and show how legacy giants like Oracle and SAP are rapidly transforming into cloud powerhouses.
Highlights
00:15 — I wanted to share with you the latest numbers for the Cloud Wars Growth Chart, where we take a look at the growth rates of the Cloud Wars Top 10 companies. Google Cloud holds on to the number one spot. But SAP and Oracle are breathing down Google Cloud's neck. Google Cloud grew in its most recent quarter by 28%, with revenue of $12.3 billion.
00:51 — Tied for second place are these two so-called legacy companies. Both grew in their most recent quarters by 27%. SAP’s cloud revenue is now $5.3 billion, Oracle’s $6.7 billion. Next quarter, it is likely that Oracle could well be number one on this list. But that's all the future, and we will see how that goes.
01:42 — In fourth place is Microsoft, 20% growth rate on $42.4 billion in revenue. ServiceNow grew 19% as it cracked $3 billion for the first time in a quarter. AWS, 17% — $29.3 billion. Similar to what we said about Microsoft: 17% growth rate on almost $30 billion in revenue is very impressive.
03:00 — Workday, up almost 14%, to $2.1 billion. Salesforce at 8%, $9.8 billion. Snowflake, up 26% to $997 million. I’m not placing Snowflake within the regular run until its quarterly revenue exceeds $1 billion. It's extremely likely that next quarter, we’ll see Snowflake take its place in the regular run of companies. IBM does not report its cloud revenue anymore. I hope IBM will change that policy.
04:22 — It’s fascinating to see a purely built-for-the-cloud company, Google Cloud, in the number one spot. And who’s behind it? Two venerable companies — mostly still in the software business completely for SAP — but Oracle now, in addition to its fast-growing cloud software business, also has a hypergrowth cloud infrastructure business.
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Balazs Molnar, CEO and co-founder of Rabbit, chats with Kieron Allen about the evolving challenges of cloud cost management and how engineering teams have become central to tackling them. He explains why traditional FinOps tools fall short, how Rabbit dives below the surface to uncover hidden waste (especially in platforms like BigQuery) and why automation is essential for real savings.
Optimizing Cloud with Rabbit
The Big Themes:
- Cloud Costs Take Center Stage: Companies are no longer asking, "What can we build on the cloud?" They're now asking, "Why is this so expensive?" Rabbit's origin stems from this exact pivot: cloud costs spiraled out of control, catching businesses off guard. Despite robust migration to cloud environments like Google Cloud, companies found themselves ill-equipped to understand the hidden inefficiencies causing waste. Cloud spend can quickly balloon without the right oversight.
- The Cloud Buffet Problem: Balazs described cloud computing like a buffet: Engineers can take whatever they want, whenever they want. The cloud’s flexibility is its strength but also its greatest risk. Unlike traditional on-prem setups that required hardware purchases and physical limits, cloud environments are boundless. Engineering teams now hold the wheel, yet they’re typically not tasked to steer toward efficiency. This creates what Molnar calls a "FinOps trap": assuming finance can solve a problem that’s fundamentally technical.
- Why Optimization Matters Now: Cloud vendors are still growing at impressive rates, but cracks are forming. Some businesses are exiting the cloud, not because they dislike the model — but because costs feel unmanageable. Molnar warns that in most cases, this isn’t a cloud problem — it’s an optimization problem. The promise of cloud was flexibility and scalability. But without proper tools, it becomes unpredictably expensive.
The Big Quote: "We all know the news that cloud vendors are growing 30%+ on a year-over-year basis. But we also started to see cracks in the system where companies are actually deciding to move out of the cloud because it's too expensive to them. But the reality [is] it might not have to be that expensive. It's just not optimized."
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Assist, Accelerate, Transform
The Big Themes:
- Workday’s Agent System of Record: Workday's Agent System of Record manages the emerging digital agent ecosystem. It provides structure and governance to what could otherwise become a chaotic sprawl of AI agents. By embedding agent management into existing organizational hierarchies, Workday ensures that agents become a structured extension of the workforce rather than a disconnected experiment.
- Shift Toward Role-Based Agents: Workday is designing agents to reflect the roles and responsibilities of human workers. Rather than focusing narrowly on task or function-specific agents, Workday emphasizes role-based agents that closely align to actual jobs within an organization. Examples include payroll agents, financial audit agents, employee self-service agents, and recruiting agents.
- Three-Phase Customer Framework: To ease customer adoption, Workday has a three-step framework: Assist → Accelerate → Transform. The assist phase focuses on basic productivity improvements, giving employees relief from repetitive, low-value tasks. Then, companies enter the accelerate phase, expanding the use of agents to drive more meaningful efficiencies and process optimization. The final transform phase represents the full reimagining of work processes with human-agent collaboration at the core.
The Big Quote: “A mindset shift for us as AI developers is we made AI as features to solve problems, and now we're thinking a lot about AI as a group of skills."
More from Shane Luke, Ali Fuller, and Workday:
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The Big Themes:
- SAP’s Flywheel Strategy: SAP introduced a compelling flywheel model that integrates applications, data, and AI to drive enterprise momentum. The idea is that integrated applications generate structured data, which then feeds a robust AI layer. As these layers build on one another, they create a self-reinforcing cycle of productivity, insight, and innovation—a flywheel effect. Unlike Microsoft and ServiceNow, which predict the collapse of applications in favor of agents, SAP asserts that AI agents will enhance, not replace, applications.
- The Business Data Cloud and Databricks Partnership: A highlight of the event was SAP’s Business Data Cloud (BDC), launched in partnership with Databricks. This foundational layer brings together internal SAP data and external sources like Moody’s or climate models, enabling richer decision-making. SAP showcased real-world use cases, such as tariff fluctuation impact analysis across supply chains, to demonstrate the power of combining enterprise and contextual data.
- Prompt Optimizer and the End of Prompt Engineering: SAP’s introduction of a “Prompt Optimizer” signals a shift in the AI interface landscape. Instead of manual prompt engineering, users will soon rely on AI to manage and optimize prompts across multiple large language models (LLMs), including ChatGPT, Claude, Gemini, and Perplexity. CTO Philipp Herzig even declared we’re at “the beginning of the end” of prompt engineering.
The Big Quote: "[Customers are] not ready to deploy AI and have that completely eliminate the need for apps. The data is just not there. So, maybe five years from now, let's see what progress we've made. But what's in the here and now is that customers are looking for applications."
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Parisa Tabriz is vice president and general manager for Google Chrome, the world’s leading browser platform. She leads efforts to make Chrome a secure and essential enterprise workspace, integrating AI and advanced cybersecurity to meet evolving business needs. In this episode, Parisa joins Bob to explore how Chrome is redefining the browser as a productivity and security platform, the role of AI in enterprise protection, and what’s next for Chrome’s innovations.
Chrome at Google Cloud Next
The Big Themes:
- Chrome’s Evolution into a Central Productivity and Security Platform: Over the past 17 years, Chrome has transformed from a simple web browser into a comprehensive platform integral to enterprise productivity and security. Users now spend a significant portion of their workday within Chrome, utilizing it for tasks ranging from document editing to video conferencing. This shift has positioned Chrome as the new endpoint in enterprise environments.
- Simplifying Enterprise Security with Chrome: Complexity is often the enemy of security. Chrome aims to simplify enterprise security by integrating protective measures directly into the browser, reducing the need for multiple, potentially conflicting security solutions. Features like automatic updates, built-in phishing protection, and centralized policy management allow IT teams to maintain a secure environment with less overheads.
- Personalization, Governance, and AI Empowerment: Chrome prioritizes features that allow organizations to personalize user experiences while maintaining strict governance over data and AI usage. Tools like data masking, controlled copy-paste functionalities, and the ability to designate approved AI applications help prevent data leaks and ensure compliance with internal policies. By providing these controls, Chrome empowers enterprises to harness the benefits of AI technologies responsibly.
The Big Quote: ". . . the browser is the place where you can give people access to the benefits [of AI], but also make sure that you have the controls and governance to turn it off or make sure that your employees aren't copying and pasting data into an unsanctioned AI surface."
More from Parisa Tabriz and Google Chrome:
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Highlights
Google Cloud’s AI Revolution and Customer Success (00:10)
Renner talks about how, for Google Cloud, delivering great outcomes for customers must come before achieving returns. Efforts are underway to push brainpower and expertise directly to customers, while simplifying the sales process by infusing more industry-specific knowledge. Customers are focused on realizing tangible business outcomes with AI.
Google Cloud’s Ecosystem and Partner Ecosystem (02:02)
Google Cloud is the fastest-growing company in the Cloud Wars, achieving $12 billion in revenue last quarter. A sharp focus on business outcomes, paired with a robust ecosystem of expertise, is credited for this success. Renner discusses Google Cloud’s partner ecosystem development under Kevin Ichhpurani, president, global partner ecosystem. Growth across the partner ecosystem, including SIs, ISVs, and boutique functional experts, remains a key driver of momentum.
Customer Success and Innovation at Google Cloud Next (03:46)
Innovation and customer success were on full display at Google Cloud Next in Las Vegas, with major product launches and enthusiastic customer testimonials. Marking his two-year anniversary, Renner reflects on how AI has accelerated customer success’ evolution. The volume of customer stories and advocacy is proof of exceptionally high engagement. Many customers have already moved beyond experimentation into full production.
Customer Mindset and Business Outcomes (06:09)
Today’s customers are reimagining what’s possible through AI, marking a profound shift in mindset. Renner talks about the eagerness and commitment of Google’s engineering and consulting teams to work side-by-side with customers. As customers become more sophisticated, they are increasingly focused on identifying business impact and making strategic investments. A collaborative and creative problem-solving approach is central to how Google Cloud delivers value.
Budget Shifts and Business Engagement (07:37)
AI adoption is driving a major shift in spending away from traditional IT control toward broader enterprise engagement. Renner notes that while business engagement has always been important, AI has accelerated the breakdown of old barriers across industries. Teams are approaching go-to-market strategies more mindfully. Verticalization and deep industry focus have become essential in driving business outcomes.
Ecosystem Growth and Customer Demand (11:17)
Google Cloud’s ecosystem continues to expand, with ISVs and SIs playing an increasingly critical role. Renner points to partnerships with Salesforce, ServiceNow, and others as key to expanding Google Cloud’s reach, building credibility, and scaling to meet growing customer demand. The expansion of regional SIs is equally important, ensuring global customer needs are met effectively.
Google Cloud’s Growth and Market Position (13:23)
Renner attributes Google Cloud’s leadership as the fastest-growing company in the Cloud Wars to its focus on customer business outcomes. This strategy has fueled new customer acquisition, a growing sales backlog, and sustained high demand. AI is transforming how Google Cloud engages with customers, driving growth across every product line and deepening its market position.
Leadership and Team Enabling (15:35)
Under the leadership of CEO Thomas Kurian, Google Cloud has made extraordinary strides in customer success and growth. Renner praises Kurian’s passion, energy, and clarity of vision. A major focus remains on providing field teams with the right assets, tools, and alignment to be successful. The addition of new talent to oversee the customer experience journey, reflects Google Cloud’s commitment to strengthening its leadership bench.
Final Thoughts and Future Plans (18:32)
Renner shares his appreciation for the opportunity to reflect on Google Cloud’s strategic focus and achievements. The interview closes with a reaffirmation of the AI revolution’s significance and Google Cloud’s central role in shaping the future of business innovation. The outlook is positive.
Google Cloud’s central role in shaping the future of business innovation. The outlook is positive.
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this special episode of Cloud Wars Live, Bob Evans chats with Gerrit Kazmaier, president, products and technology, Workday. They explore how Workday is evolving into a platform company, the role of AI agents in reshaping enterprise workflows, and why trust, accuracy, and extensibility are key to future-ready business solutions. Kazmaier also discusses Workday’s approach to ecosystem innovation and composable ERP.
Workday's AI Future
The Big Themes:
- Real-World Business Value From AI-Driven Results: Workday’s AI capabilities are already producing concrete results. Kazmaier shares examples like a recruiting agent that increased recruiter capacity by over 50% and contract intelligence tools that slashed legal costs by up to 60%. These aren’t experimental features—they’re embedded in Workday’s workflows to improve productivity and efficiency.
- Agents Will Enhance, Not Replace Applications: Kazmeier addresses the myth that AI agents will replace applications. Instead, Workday sees agents as accelerators of existing apps. Many enterprise applications were designed around human cognitive limits, but now AI agents can take over some of those mental loads. Over time, agents will become so proficient they’ll perform roles autonomously. But they won’t erase apps,they’ll enhance them.
- Composable ERP Is Now a Reality: Workday is making good on the long-promised vision of composable ERP: modular, customizable systems that allow organizations to choose the best tools for each job. Historically, integration challenges made composability difficult. Now, AI simplifies that complexity. Intelligent interfaces and smarter integration allow Workday’s ecosystem to plug into its core platform more fluidly.
The Big Quote: “This is like early Internet days . . . some people had innovative ideas. But economics weren't just there. Bandwidth was limited and expensive; not everyone had an Ilenternet-ready device...but as exponential improvements happened . . . an entirely new economy was invented, and I think it's the same with AI."
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At Google Cloud Next 2025, Google Cloud Vice President of Applied AI Duncan Lennox sits down with Bob Evans in part three of our series "Google Cloud and the AI Revolution." They discuss how Google Cloud is redefining enterprise applications through purpose-built AI agents, the shift from incremental to transformational innovation, and how businesses can harness agentic AI to deliver seamless, end-to-end customer experiences at scale.
Google Cloud’s Agentic Revolution
The Big Themes:
- Beyond Infrastructure to Applied AI: Historically, Google Cloud was associated with infrastructure, data analytics, databases, and backend technologies. However, it's now undergoing a transformation, stepping boldly into the realm of applied AI. Rather than just competing with established players in enterprise applications (like ERP, HCM, or CRM), Google Cloud is innovating at a more foundational level by creating entirely new types of agents and applications.
- The Customer Engagement Suite, A CRM Rethink: Google Cloud’s Customer Engagement Suite isn’t just an upgrade to traditional contact center software — it’s a full reimagining of how businesses engage with customers. Historically, customer service was seen as a cost center: something to be optimized for efficiency and minimized wherever possible. Google Cloud flips that on its head. With the Customer Engagement Suite, the focus shifts toward creating differentiated, high-quality customer experiences that build brand loyalty, satisfaction, and even new revenue streams.
- Best Adoption Practices: Lennox discusses several best practices for companies looking to succeed with applied AI. First, start somewhere tangible — don't try to "boil the ocean." Select a high-visibility area where AI can solve real problems and produce measurable results. Second, tie your efforts directly to business outcomes, such as customer experience improvements, revenue growth, or operational savings. Third, choose a strategic partner capable of evolving with you as the technology advances.
The Big Quote: "Experimentation is great, of course, but what I see more and more as I talk to C-level executives is they now want to be able to deliver ROI, and you have to make some bets. You've got to choose some areas. For us in applied AI, Customer Engagement Suite has been a great one, because it's a problem that C-level execs can understand."
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Erwan Menard is the director of product management for Google Cloud’s Cloud AI division, where he helps lead innovation at the intersection of AI agents, enterprise systems, and business outcomes. In part two of our series, Google Cloud and the AI Revolution, Erwan joins Bob Evans to discuss how governance, intentionality, and rapid scaling are critical to AI agent success, share insights on Google Cloud’s Agentspace and Agent Builder tools, and explore how multi-agent collaboration is reshaping the future of enterprise technology.
Purpose Driven AI Innovation
The Big Themes:
- Intentionality Drives Impact: Menard advises organizations not to jump into AI agent development for novelty’s sake, but to begin with a clearly defined problem and desired business outcome. However, once value is proven, it's crucial to scale intentionally. He shares the example of a customer rolling out 40,000 licenses of Agentspace only after deeply considering what kind of first experience they wanted their employees to have.
- Organizational Culture Shapes AI Adoption: There's no universal model for who should “own” AI governance. It depends on the company’s culture. Some companies may create centralized AI governance teams; others may embed responsibilities within existing business units or IT teams. The key is cultural acknowledgment: governance must be understood as a shared responsibility, not just an operational afterthought.
- Anchor in Business Value: With so many tools, models, and frameworks emerging, it’s easy for companies to fall into what he calls “optionality evaluation.” That is, spending so much time chasing the latest innovations that they lose sight of why they started exploring AI in the first place. Instead, he urges leaders to ask: What are we trying to improve? Whether it’s speeding up contract workflows, freeing up data scientists from routine tasks, or enhancing customer service, the goal should be clear.
The Big Quote: "If you find yourself in a constant evaluation loop for the new shiny object, maybe it's worth taking a pause and saying, 'Why are we doing this again?'"
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At Google Cloud Next 2025, Google Cloud VP and CTO Will Grannis joins Bob Evans to explore how AI is reshaping enterprise technology. Grannis shares how Google Cloud’s OCTO team works with customers on complex challenges, using DeepMind research, next-gen TPUs, and AI-native infrastructure, while noting the fading line between B2B and B2C and the cultural changes needed to adapt.
Inside Google Cloud’s AI Strategy
- Google Cloud Is AI-Native at Its Core: Grannis says that Google Cloud’s approach to AI is foundational. The organization’s mindset, shaped by Google’s long-standing leadership in AI, infuses every layer of its stack, from infrastructure to user interfaces. With a legacy of deploying machine learning at scale for over a decade, Google Cloud doesn’t just offer AI tools—it helps customers reimagine their businesses through AI-native thinking, using products like DeepMind and innovations born across Google’s consumer ecosystem.
- The OCTO Team Solves the Hardest Problems with Customers: Grannis leads the Office of the CTO (OCTO), a team he jokingly calls “the nerdy Navy SEALs.” They tackle highly complex, unsolved customer challenges that can’t be addressed by existing products. Rather than building solutions in isolation, they co-create alongside customers. They start with business outcomes and design backward.
- Multi-Modality and Multi-Agent Systems Are the Future: Looking ahead, Grannis predicts that multi-modal AI, i.e. models that process images, text, speech, and even scent, will become the standard. He also foresees a shift from single-function agents to “agentic workflows” powered by multiple orchestrated AI agents. Google is prototyping orchestration with projects like Astra, that signal a future where AI is not only intelligent but contextually aware and collaborative.
The Big Quote: “People . . . spend a lot of time just trying to take a PDF and analyze it. It seems very true. It is a pain . . I think that’s one reason why a NotebookLM or a product like that has been so popular because it really attacks like the heart of what people hate doing at work. [AI] puts them in the driver’s seat. They can ask questions, they can do analysis.”
Learn more:
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Inside SAP Business Network
The Big Themes:
- New Organizational Structure: SAP reorganized its internal teams by combining Business Network and Digital Supply Chain into a new unit: Supply Chain Management. While this may sound like internal restructuring, Tony Harris explained that for customers, it signals a major innovation push. A major focus in 2025 will be on supply chain orchestrationand supply chain risk — two areas that demand real-time responsiveness and cross-functional collaboration.
- SAP Business Network as a Response to Tariffs and Disruption: With the rise of geopolitical tensions, trade wars, and tariffs, companies need to rapidly adjust their supplier bases. SAP Business Network helps companies respond to such disruptions. If tariffs threaten certain international suppliers, businesses can use SAP Business Network to quickly identify alternative suppliers in unaffected regions or within domestic markets.
- Introducing SAP Business Network Promote Subscription: On the very day of the interview, SAP launched a new subscription service called SAP Business Network Promote, designed specifically for suppliers. This offering helps vendors raise their visibility and connect with global buyers on SAP Business Network. Features include enhanced and verified company profiles, uploading of full product catalogs, and access to AI-powered tools for responding to requests for information (RFIs), improving content, and correcting invoice errors. Suppliers also receive robust data insights.
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Episode 50 | AI Agents in Action
The Big Themes:
- The Rise of 'Agent Ratios': As companies roll out more AI agents, the "agent-to-human ratio" could become a useful AI maturity indicator. Currently, we’re seeing early adoption — with Oracle reporting that only 5–10% of its customers have put agents into production. These early use cases focus on low-risk, easily-automated tasks. It’s a cautious start, but the trajectory is upward. Bonnie points out that once the groundwork is laid, the pace of adoption will likely accelerate, yielding increased productivity.
- Four Smart Questions for Evaluating Enterprise AI Initiatives: To help customers decide whether to adopt AI capabilities, Bonnie offers four key questions: (1) Is it available to me? Not all customers have access to AI features; infrastructure matters. (2) Do I need or want it? Weigh the risk-reward tradeoff, especially in terms of time and internal resources. (3) Is my data protected? Ensure your vendor offers strong governance and compliance support. (4) What is the time to value?
- Knowing When to Leap and When to Wait on AI Adoption: Should companies wait or dive into AI now? Her advice: it depends. If your organization is in a fast-moving, innovation-driven sector, early adoption is essential to stay competitive. Waiting could mean falling behind. But for highly regulated industries or companies unused to rapid tech change, a cautious approach makes sense.
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Intelligent Spend's Power
The Big Themes:
- Enhancing Supply Chain Collaboration and Visibility: Traditional ERP systems, while efficient in automating internal procurement and supply chain processes, are typically confined within the organization's boundaries, leading to disconnects when interacting with suppliers, manufacturers, or carriers. SAP Business Network addresses these challenges by extending end-to-end automation beyond organizational walls. As a result, organizations can build resilient, agile supply chains.
- Driving Tangible Business Outcomes and ROI: Organizations utilizing SAP Business Network experience improvements in operational metrics. Companies have accelerated order delivery by 27% and increased go-to-market speed by 30%. A pharmaceutical company reduced safety stock by nearly 50% due to improved supply chain visibility, while Richmond International, a luxury goods producer, achieved an 82% digitization of purchase orders and cut warehouse receiving efforts by half.
- Leveraging AI and Innovation for Supply Chain Resilience: SAP Business Network empowers organizations to build resilient, adaptive supply chains through innovative technologies and AI-driven insights. By providing visibility not only into direct (tier one) suppliers but also into deeper supply chain tiers (tier two and beyond), the network enables proactive risk management and operational agility. Additionally, SAP’s strategic focus on becoming an AI-first company ensures continuous innovation.
The Big Quote: “SAP Business Network was designed to modernize how companies connect with their trading partners, leveraging AI and configurable business rules to enable seamless transaction exchanges by integrating directly with the back-end systems. SAP Business Network digitizes interactions that previously relied on manual emails, one-off portals and hence we're able to streamline processes and reduce inefficiencies."
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The Big Themes:
- AI and Humans Working Together: Salesforce envisions a future where AI and humans collaborate rather than compete. Rather than replacing human jobs entirely, AI is seen as a tool that enhances human productivity by handling repetitive tasks, improving decision-making, and streamlining workflows. Salesforce’s AI-driven offerings, like Agentforce, are designed to integrate seamlessly with existing systems to empower employees.
- Rapid Adoption of AI Agents: At Dreamforce, Salesforce onboarded over 10,000 companies onto Agentforce in just three days, demonstrating the speed at which AI adoption is occurring. This large-scale deployment suggests that businesses are eager to implement AI-powered solutions that can immediately improve efficiency. Unlike traditional software rollouts, which can take months or even years, Salesforce’s AI systems can be integrated within minutes, allowing companies to see immediate benefits.
- AI’s Future Includes Robotics: Salesforce anticipates that AI will soon extend beyond digital applications and into robotics, enabling automation in physical environments. AI-powered robots could be deployed in manufacturing, logistics, field service, and even household tasks. For instance, AI agents could be embedded in robotic systems that perform maintenance, deliver goods, or assist with healthcare services.
The Big Quote: "Our CEO, Mark Benioff, kind of kidded around in Davos to a room full of CEOs saying, 'Congratulations, you're the last CEOs who ever managed an entirely human workforce . . . the punch line is, going forward, there's going to be AI and humans working together to help customers on every company around the world."
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The Big Themes:
- Rapid Evolution in Enterprise AI & Cloud Technologies: The pace of AI-driven change in enterprise software is accelerating, making it essential for companies to keep up with frequent updates and enhancements. Major vendors like SAP, Workday, and Oracle are rapidly evolving their AI capabilities, offering new tools and features to meet growing business demands. Companies that fail to adapt risk falling behind as competitors leverage AI for efficiency and innovation.
- The Databricks Breakup Prediction Example: A compelling illustration of AI’s potential came from Databricks’ origin story: an attempt to predict relationship breakups based on digital footprints. There's a fundamental AI challenge — single-source data (e.g. judging only by a single social media page in the breakup predication example) is insufficient for accurate predictions. Instead, AI requires comprehensive, multi-source data aggregation to generate meaningful insights. This principle is now applied in enterprise software.
- The Growing Importance of AI-Powered Business Suites: A key takeaway from recent developments is the increasing importance of AI-first, suite-first strategies. SAP, Workday, and Oracle are all prioritizing integrated AI across their application ecosystems, making AI a core component rather than a peripheral feature. This shift reflects growing customer demand for intelligent automation, predictive analytics, and enhanced decision-making across business functions.
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- Validated Partner Status Enhances Client Confidence and Outcomes: Infosys' achievement of becoming an SAP-validated partner for RISE with SAP ensures that Infosys provides a predictable, standardized, and scalable approach to cloud ERP transformations. Clients gain clarity on transition strategies, enabling them to adopt clean core principles and maintain differentiation in their business processes. This rigorous partnership offers assurance about time, cost, and risk in transformation projects.
- AI-Driven Solutions and Industry-Specific Playbooks Add Value: Infosys leverages AI-first approaches and solutions, such as Infosys Cobalt and Topaz, to drive client transformations. By focusing on industry-specific playbooks and workflows, Infosys reimagines business processes, such as order-to-cash, with AI-driven efficiency. The use of 40+ AI-infused accelerators enables rapid adoption and delivers measurable benefits, like enhanced customer satisfaction and reduced errors.
- The Critical Role of SAP’s Business Technology Platform (BTP): SAP’s BTP plays a vital role in helping clients maintain clean core principles while allowing unique business workflows to operate independently. Infosys supports this transition by building customer-specific solutions on SAP BTP. For example, an electric utility company reduced billing errors by 30% and enhanced customer satisfaction through predictive insights enabled by Infosys’ intelligent customer insights solution built on BTP.
The Big Quote: “We are leveraging AI for the cloud ERP implementation by embedding AI in the various services we deliver to clients, whether it is code generation, whether it is knowledge acquisition, whether it is using more nuanced industry solutions . . . so that it is leading to improved quality, higher productivity and accelerated timeline for execution."
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Salesforce's Excitement for 2025 and the Role of Agents (01:04)
Benioff shares his enthusiasm for the current technological moment. He explains that agents will help businesses operate at lower costs and improve key performance indicators (KPIs). Agents are being rapidly adopted, with Salesforce deploying its agent platform at scale and significantly reducing the workload on human support agents. "We are in an opportunity, I think, for all of our customers, to connect with their customers in this incredible new way that we call agentics or agents . . . we're witnessing something I think, that we've only seen in the movies."
Salesforce's Market Position and Digital Labor (02:35)
Salesforce is the second largest software company in the world, with a $38 billion market cap and $12.9 billion in cash flow. "I think we're one of the first enterprise software companies to deliver an agentic platform at scale with the level of performance and capability that everybody wants." Its platform, Customer 360, integrates various products, creating a comprehensive solution. It's well-positioned to address the issue of digital labor, which has the potential to transform businesses. Benioff says there's a multi-trillion-dollar total addressable market (TAM) for digital labor.
The Importance of Data and AI in Salesforce's Strategy (10:30)
Benioff outlines three core initiatives at Salesforce over the past 24 months: integrating acquired apps into the core platform, developing a high-performing data cloud, and enhancing the agentic layer. He discusses the importance of a unified data model and the integration of the data cloud with Salesforce's apps. AI and machine learning have made many advancements in recent years and while AI is not yet perfect, it has significantly improved over the past decade.
Salesforce’s Core Values and Commitment to Partnership (15:29)
Salesforce’s core values — trust, customer success, innovation, equality, and sustainability — have remained unchanged for 25 years. As Salesforce moves into new technological frontiers, including AI, Benioff stresses the importance of transparency, communication, and collaboration. "We are moving into a new world together, and we're going to be better together." He reaffirms Salesforce’s dedication to working closely with customers and welcomes them into the future of innovation and technology.
The Role of Agents in Enhancing Human Potential (17:11)
Benioff discusses the potential of agents to enhance human capabilities, citing examples from Disney and Gucci where AI has improved employee performance and customer satisfaction. "We also saw that in Gucci, for one of the call centers where we deployed this technology, revenue [rose] 35% because the agents were just making those employees just better." He touches upon the need for rebalancing roles within the company as AI takes over certain tasks, ensuring that employees are continuously skill-building and evolving.
The Future of Agents and Applications (20:50)
He addresses the misconception that traditional databases and applications will be entirely replaced by voice-driven AI interfaces, like those depicted in the movie Her. He explains that AI models are not data storage systems but intelligence engines that augment and extend existing capabilities. While AI is evolving rapidly, Benioff says that current enterprise systems still rely on databases, applications, and workflows. He clarifies that AI will complement these systems rather than replace them entirely.
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Episode 48 | Enterprise Innovation Meets AI Power
The Big Themes:
- Workday's Strengths: Workday is carving a strong niche in HR and financial data management, two areas ripe for innovation through AI. The company has identified talent management, recruiting, and onboarding as key areas where AI can drive efficiency and improve decision-making. This emphasis on HR tech makes Workday attractive to organizations looking to modernize their HR processes.
- Adoption Challenges: One of the biggest challenges in 2025 for AI in the enterprise software space will be customer adoption. Whether it's overcoming resistance to change, integrating new systems with legacy platforms, or ensuring employees have the necessary skills to use AI effectively, the road to widespread AI adoption can be bumpy. Vendors must provide practical, easy-to-understand use cases that demonstrate AI's value.
- Oracle's Complex Implementations: Oracle’s enterprise solutions are often criticized for their complexity, particularly when it comes to implementation. The flexibility that Oracle provides means customers can tailor solutions to fit their specific needs, but this level of customization often requires substantial technical expertise and time. Oracle’s challenge will be to find a balance between maintaining this flexibility and simplifying the implementation process.
The Big Quote: “AI has to be able to cross multiple parts in multiple applications to synthesize all that information together. AI makes it easier for these systems to have integration, so to speak, as long as the provisioning is all within the same suite of products . . . For customers, having everything under the SAP umbrella or the Oracle umbrella or the Workday umbrella across multiple lines of business is, in the age of AI, going to be really helpful, because then your agents are able to be that much more effective."
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AI's Role in Business Transformation (00:59)
Bill McDermott notes a shift in CEOs from mere fascination with AI to AI-led business strategies. He sees ServiceNow's role in AI transformation as being that of a "control tower." AI has impacted several business areas including customer service, supply chains, employee onboarding, and risk mitigation. It's also a great tool for labor arbitrage. That's not to mention that AI agents can operate 24/7 without breaks, complementing human efforts.
Agentic AI, A Holistic Solution (04:01)
Agentic AI is on the rise and will serve customers, employees, and operations, taking over tasks computers handle more efficiently than humans. While current AI agents are often siloed within departments, ServiceNow's platform integrates these agents across the enterprise, offering a holistic solution. "So now you have the agents working together to accomplish something," McDermott says, "as opposed to just doing something for one function." The foundation for this integration lies in a unified data model and architecture.
Customer Trust and Innovation (06:53)
Trust is the ultimate human currency. Without it, McDermott says, there's no progress. Customers know they can trust ServiceNow and its technology. He mentions its investments in customer success programs, innovation accelerators, and strategic partnerships to drive business impact. Net new innovation must be delivered to customers, employees, and shareholders through both traditional and new consumption models.
Partnerships and Integration (10:29)
McDermott discusses ServiceNow's partnerships and the potential for a multi-cloud approach similar to the infrastructure side. He's confident in the market's ability to accommodate multiple players and points to expanded collaborations with Cognizant, NVIDIA, and others. He talks about ServiceNow's integration with hyper-scalers including Microsoft, AWS, and Google Cloud, showcasing the benefits of a comprehensive platform for business processes. "We're open, and we integrate with everybody."
Balancing Trust and Innovation (14:29)
Balancing trust and innovation in the AI era is a challenge as ServiceNow becomes increasingly embedded in customers' operations. McDermott emphasizes the value of trusted partnerships and selective collaboration to sustain customer trust. He highlights ServiceNow's partnership with NVIDIA and its recognition in the American Opportunity Index, which measures employee prosperity post-employment.
The Future of Work and AI (16:34)
In the future, AI will revolutionize work by reducing monotonous tasks and freeing up time for innovation. ServiceNow is part of creating that future, already using AI to simplify complex workflows, saving employees significant time and allowing them to focus on higher-value tasks. "This is a renaissance moment for the workers. They get to get rid of the soul-crushing work that they've never wanted to do anyway." Reskilling the workforce will be necessary for this revolution and is being done through initiatives likeServiceNow University and the AI Institute.
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Top 10 CEO Outlook 2025 series. Krishna shared with Cloud Wars Founder Bob Evans the company's optimistic outlook for 2025 amid geopolitical and economic uncertainties. They also discuss IBM's shift towards software, its AWS and Palo Alto Network partnerships, and how Red Hat has flourished since joining IBM.
Highlights
IBM's Optimistic Outlook (01:18)
Despite current geopolitical and economic uncertainties, Krishna remains optimistic about technology's role, especially in terms of automation and AI, in driving business transformations. He notes there's an increased appetite for technology globally, including in Europe, as a response to these uncertainties. Technology is a way to deliver better services at lower costs, which makes it an exciting time for the technology business.
Focus on Delighting Clients (03:41)
IBM exists to serve clients, focusing on delighting them through technology deployment and support. Krishna discusses the importance of taking risks to innovate and the need to cut bureaucracy and unnecessary processes. He emphasizes that partnerships should be win-win scenarios. "Can we expand the pie in which case we both win because the client is happier?"
IBM's Shift to Software and Impact on Clients (06:36)
There's been a significant shift in IBM's revenue mix, with software now accounting for almost half of IBM's revenue. Krishna explains that software's flexibility allows for incremental improvements, unlike hardware, which often require more disruptive changes. IBM focuses on software and providing unique value to clients in automation, hybrid cloud, data, and AI.
Enterprise Adoption of Large Language Models (10:05)
Krishna talks about the current state of enterprise understanding of large language models, or LLMs: "If I look at the enterprise understanding of large language models and what we can do for them, it's like we're in the first innings of a baseball game." Krishna advises enterprises to move forward in three steps: First, start with low-risk applications like customer experience functions such as answering service calls, as well as internal enterprise functions. Second, move to a little more risky but not totally risky use cases, like accounts receivable, procurement, and supply chain. Then, step three is applying LLMs to things like oncology and diagnosis in healthcare -- vertical-industry-specific functions. The excitement is more on step three, but customers should initially focus on the first two, where there's a lot of value.
Leveraging Automation to Drive Innovation (15:04)
All enterprises understand the importance of running lean and using productivity gains to focus resources on high-value activities. Krishna shares that IBM has freed up resources by automating tasks, allowing for more R&D to develop innovative products. He notes that overall employment has increased, but more focus is on high-value activities that enhance growth rates.
Red Hat's Growth and Role in Hybrid Cloud (16:59)
Red Hat has had impressive growth since joining IBM. Krishna says it has more than doubled its revenue since joining IBM in 2019, now exceeding $6 billion. He explains that Red Hat is the leading hybrid cloud platform, allowing for flexibility in deploying workloads across data centers and cloud environments.
R&D as a Growth Engine (21:40)
R&D should focus on innovation and quickly bringing those innovations to clients. R&D is about identifying unmet needs. "Henry Ford was asked like, how did you think of the Model T? And his answer was 'Look, if I had surveyed my customers, they would have said they wanted a stronger horse or a longer whip, but the automobile was the right answer.' Krishna mentions that quantum computing is a key area of focus for IBM in terms of research and development.
The Benefits of Strategic Partnerships (24:56)
IBM's strategic partnerships impact client value and IBM's growth. Krishna notes that half of IBM's consulting team's revenue now comes from these partnerships. He provides the example of IBM helping Delta Airlines move to AWS, while integrating Red Hat and other tools to enhance the client's experience. Krishna talks about a new partnership with security software provider Palo Alto Networks that's expected to generate significant pipeline for IBM's consulting team.
Final Thoughts and Future Outlook (27:56)
Krishna encourages clients to assign technology the same importance as other critical functions like finance and marketing. "Do you give tech the same importance that you give your CFO?" He reiterates the importance of technology and the need for businesses to adapt to its rapid pace of change. Evans closes by observing that in 2025, there's potential for the Cloud Wars Top 10 companies to exceed $10 trillion in combined market cap.
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Generative AI and Business Transformation (00:57)
Klein discusses the increasing adoption of GenAI among SAP's customers. They see it as a way to improve productivity and business processes. Additionally, SAP software now integrates human language capabilities, enhancing user experience and efficiency. Customers' focus for 2025 and beyond is using GenAI and SAP Business AI to solve complex business challenges and orchestrate end-to-end business processes.
Technology Investments and Business Outcomes (02:37)
Among customers, there's been a shift from reconciling past actions to optimizing future planning and growth opportunities. "Now we are talking about business model transformation but also, how can agentic AI and Joule . . . help me to orchestrate my new business model." He explains how SAP's offerings help customers bring all business elements to the table for comprehensive transformation.
AI's Tangible Benefits (04:10)
Proving the outcomes of AI investments is critical in times of financial pressure. SAP's Business AI offerings are designed to demonstrate tangible business benefits, such as improving the quote-to-cash process. "We make sure that you can quote more intelligent, that you can sell more, that you can price more effectively, and that you can run all the fulfillment processes in the back end way more productive. Then the customers [says], 'Absolutely, I'm all in for buying more AI units from SAP'."
End-to-End Processes and Customer-Centric Approach (06:39)
Klein discusses the cultural shift towards end-to-end processes that meet customer needs and explains how SAP's AI Foundation and tools are agnostic to various large language models. SAP's suite of offerings provides a unified approach, avoiding the silos created by working with multiple tech companies.
The Rise of Agents (08:24)
Agents are ascendant and playing a significant role in driving better business outcomes. Klein provides a concrete example of how agents will collaborate in demand, supply chain, and procurement processes. He explains how agents collaborate, to "[make] sure the customer gets an extremely valuable output end to end."
Orchestration and Collaboration of Agents (10:59)
Klein describes how SAP's generative AI assistant, Joule, can help orchestrate agents across different end-to-end processes. "Joule can help you to predict demand with our sales agent and Joule orchestrates to work with the supply chain agents on the inventory side, and then Joule helps, you know, to orchestrate the work, you know, with the procurement agent."
SAP's Growth and Future Vision (12:44)
SAP has had significant growth in applications, outpacing competitors. Klein attributes this to SAP's suite approach, which provides a comprehensive solution for core business processes. He talks about the importance of integration and extensibility, allowing customers to choose the best solutions for their needs.
Under Klein's leadership, SAP has transformed into a cloud and AI-focused company. Klein discusses SAP's vision as an end-to-end solution provider, delivering continuous innovation and enabling holistic business transformation. He explains, "The perception is yes, SAP is really delivering end-to-end solutions to me, but they [are] also helping me because they have a ton of industry knowledge, they have a ton of business process knowledge, and they are by far more than only a technology partner, they are also helping me with RISE and GROW, a kind of a methodology on how to transform my business."
SAP Management Team and Final Thoughts (19:56)
SAP has a strong management team, including new executives from Microsoft and other top companies. Klein expresses confidence in SAP's ability to continue delivering value to customers and partners. The conversation concludes with his encouraging everyone to embrace the new year with enthusiasm in particular for the opportunities of agentic AI and Joule to drive business outcomes.
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Customer Mindset and Priorities in 2025 (01:47)
The current climate of geopolitical and economic uncertainty is driving the need for speed and agility when delivering value to customers. Google Cloud customer projects that do just that include improving logistics at UPS, enhancing search functionality, and boosting customer service at Hanesbrands and Macy's. "Uncertainty means the great CEOs want action," Kurian says. "You control the controllable, and you do that by improving speed in your organization." Kurian also discusses significant AI integrations, such as Google Cloud's collaboration with Samsung on its phones and Snap’s in-app coach, which are shaping the future of customer interaction.
Cloud and AI as a Continuum (04:08)
Kurian explains that cloud services actually simplify the deployment and management of AI because they provide models and accelerators as services, reducing the complexity of managing AI systems. In turn, AI helps to streamline cloud services by enabling faster and more efficient application development. Customer examples of how cloud and AI work together to deliver innovative offerings can be found in AI-driven risk calculations at Hiscox, tailored advertising for Puma and Radisson, and content discovery for Warner Brothers Discovery.
AI's Impact on Business and Productivity (07:48)
AI is no longer confined to IT departments but is now influencing a wide range of business functions. It's improving productivity by streamlining operations, such as facilitating live patient handoffs at hospitals. "Allowing the nurses to do live handoff to another nurse means more time at the bedside. It means more productivity."
AI is also enhancing product development by enabling customers to articulate complex needs, which AI can then translate into tailored recommendations. Furthermore, AI’s role in call center automation is improving efficiency by handling high volumes of customer inquiries and providing superior service.
Customer Service and AI Integration (13:01)
Google Cloud's approach to integrating AI with customer service helps businesses create more cohesive and efficient customer experiences by improving reach, understanding, and interactions across multiple channels. Kurian discusses innovations such as the self-service retail search at InterContinental Hotels and digital concierge services for Orange. AI agents manage customer queries, upsell products, and improve service efficiency in call centers.
Cost Optimization and Efficiency in AI (15:52)
There are several ways in which Google Cloud is addressing the challenges of AI tool affordability. Kurian outlines initiatives aimed at improving the efficiency of AI, such as new software capabilities and optimizations to AI models. In the last six months, Google Cloud has significantly reduced costs, with model costs dropping by more than 10 times. Additionally, improvements in latency and the reduction of AI response iterations are also helping to make AI more efficient and cost-effective.
Customer Acknowledgment (18:46)
In closing, Kurian expresses his gratitude to Google Cloud’s customers, partners, and all those who have supported the company’s journey. "To every customer, every partner, everyone who gave us a shot, you were the reason that all of our people worked so hard. Thank you."
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AI Adoption and Business Value
Eschenbach explains that there's been a shift from experimental AI phases to practical implementation. The shift means that "customers are going to look to go to trusted partners, partners they have an existing relationship with, partners that they know have a highly curated set of data." Workday has such a curated data set. Further, as part of the shift, there's now a need for ROI and total cost of ownership analysis in AI investments.
CEO Priorities for 2025
AI, enterprise consolidation, and talent are Eschenbach's key priorities for 2025. When it comes to talent, he says CEOs and other leaders need to think about how "that talent is going to ultimately peacefully coexist with AI and things like agents in the future." He also discusses Workday's AI mindset — it's not just about delivering it to customers but also successfully integrating AI internally — along with AI's role in driving productivity. Customers are looking to do "more with less." They want to consolidate point solutions onto more comprehensive platforms like Workday.
AI Deployment and Talent Integration
CEOs should foster an AI-first culture. Eschenbach provides examples of AI use cases, such as job description automation and recruiter agents, showcasing the tangible ROI and productivity gains in HR and finance. Integrating AI with existing talent helps drive business benefits.
Competitive Advantages and Market Position
Workday's success stems from its technology, large client base, and on-time delivery. "Our customers have greater than a 95% on-time delivery of the Workday platform and on budget," Eschenbach points out "We know how to deploy this at scale across the biggest companies in the world, which gives us a leg up versus our competition, who, at times, have very complex data sets and environments and can't implement at the speed and pace and at the dollar value that a Workday can." Other Workday attributes include its platform's open architecture, as well as its strong company culture and high levels of employee engagement.
Partner Growth and International Expansion
Eschenbach reports significant growth in the partner community and its impact on business. "Historically, we've had really good partners . . . 10% of our new business in New ACV [annual contract value] last quarter came from our partners. Our partners are having a meaningful impact on our business. We have grown our partner community by five times in 18 months." He speaks about the focus on selling through hyperscalers and forming strategic partnerships, as well as the potential in international markets and continued investments in new sectors, such as the U.S. federal market.
Data Set and AI Partnerships
"We're opening up the aperture," Escenbach says, explaining how Workday is tackling AI. "We're thinking about AI in multiple ways." Curated data is essential for AI tools. Eschenbach discusses the Workday platform's integration with Slack and Microsoft to enable agent-to-agent communication, underscoring that data is important in powering AI tools and delivering customer benefits.
Innovation and External Concerns
In the face of the potential impact of global macro situations, there's a need to stay focused on innovation."We focus on innovation, and we focus on each other here inside the building and our workmates, and we continue to support our partner ecosystem on a global basis. So while there are some concerns out there, if you focus too much on them, it's a distraction."
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Highlights
Customer Boldness (00:21)
In previous keynotes, Catz has encouraged customers to be more bold – and customers are responding to that. Oracle’s cloud business is growing at a rate of 50% a year. “More and more of our customers are willing to not only jump in with one foot but their entire bodies because they’re getting more comfortable and they’re also seeing that competition is moving,” Catz says.
“Transformation and transforming yourself and modernizing yourself, that is not a destination; it’s a constant journey.” Businesses are recognizing that they become more adaptable to meet customer expectations when they embrace these new technologies.
Multi-Cloud Agreements (04:25)
Multi-cloud agreements with Microsoft, Google Cloud, and AWS kicked off in 2024. “We have always believed that the customer should get to choose what they want to use and what environment they want to run in and how to really advance their agenda,” Catz expresses. Oracle doesn’t believe in building walls or trapping customers; being open to this idea is central to Oracle's success. Because Oracle Cloud has different capabilities, the company has been able to collaborate with other providers to make their offerings work together to best meet customer needs.
Healthcare Industry Offerings (08:55)
Oracle has put extra energy into its industry suites, particularly for the healthcare industry. It aims to be able to handle everything from clinical trials to inventory to nursing schedules and more. At a recent health summit, Oracle launched new AI-powered capabilities for healthcare. While the company competes in several industries, Oracle acquired Cerner because “we knew that we needed to bring healthcare into the 21st century.”
Larry Ellison previously shared that “we can’t do it alone.” This means partnering with customers and being open to partner with other companies to apply their capabilities to ensure a quality customer experience is being delivered for patients, doctors, administrators, and others in the healthcare industry. “Do more, spend less doing it – that’s our job, to give them that ability,” Catz summarizes.
Revenue Goals (17:06)
At its financial analyst meeting last fall, Oracle released its vision for $100 billion in revenue a few years out. Catz describes what that will look like within Oracle and how customers will contribute to the company achieving those figures. “We’re telling you now, every year is going to be bigger and accelerating more,” Catz says. “The way that that curve works – it’s almost unstoppable once it starts.”
Cloud Data Centers (22:30)
Oracle has been developing cloud data centers that are “small enough to go on a ship” as well as what Ellison has called the world’s largest data centers, Evans notes. This will be important to Oracle customers in the coming years and beyond because “it gives them flexibility,” Catz explains. “We can start at any size and expand as they need it.”
Ellison and New Products (24:59)
2024 was a busy year for Ellison and 2025 will continue in the same manner. “This fellow does not rest,” Catz says. The Oracle team loves the new capabilities and new product lines that they’ve been rolling out to customers that there are no signs of slowing down.
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The Future of AI and Data in 2025: There's a lot of excitement and prototyping around AI. "People are excited that they can ask questions and get real answers instead of getting the proverbial 10 blue links. I think people see the promise of things like that. How do you make that work at scale? How do you make that work in a reliable way, and how do you make it work in a way that's not expensive?" Ramaswamy shares a recent experience in India, describing the cost-consciousness of customers and the focus on making data accessible and valuable.
Shifting Priorities for Snowflake Customers: What do customers want? Ramaswamy identifies goals including empowering business users with data faster and unlocking the value of unstructured information. In response, Snowflake is helping customers access and utilize historical information and build hybrid systems. He notes that SQL enables easier data transformations and extractions.
Cultural Change and AI Adoption: Cultural change is required for companies to handle AI. Even within Snowflake, adopting AI has been a challenging process. Snowflake's engineering and sales teams are beginning to use AI tools like Copilot and Cortex, but there's a need for ongoing practice to fully integrate AI into daily operations.
The Promise of AI and Data Platforms: AI has the potential to free up significant time for employees, allowing them to focus on higher-value tasks. Snowflake aspires to make data platforms simple and accessible, allowing users to perform complex tasks with ease. Its consumption model has several benefits and aligns it with business goals of making more money or spending less. Companies like Siemens are using chatbots to improve efficiency and access to information.
Competition and Innovation in the Data Market: Competition, Ramaswamy says, drives innovation and improves products. It only strengthens Snowflake, which stands apart due to its unified platform, tight integration, and ease of use. "If you create a chatbot with Snowflake, it will automatically obey all of the access control rules that you have set up. It will automatically obey all of the data masking that your administrator has set up." Ramaswamy discusses the challenges of balancing innovation with maintaining simplicity and efficiency in Snowflake's product offerings.
Mega Trends and Challenges for Snowflake: Ramaswamy sees two mega trends for 2025: the rise of interoperable data formats and the acceleration of AI. Snowflake is well-positioned to take advantage of these trends through its end-to-end offerings and data engineering capabilities. However, there are challenges to maintaining data quality and speed while innovating rapidly. AI tools like agents must drive real utility and value for customers.
Data Literacy Initiative: One Million Minds Plus One: Snowflake has a new initiative aimed at improving data literacy. Data can be difficult to interpret, and the right skills are necessary to do so. Snowflake is spearheading an ambitious program to educate over a million people in data literacy, free of charge. The initiative includes teaching concepts like data engineering, data analytics, and using BI tools and notebooks for interactive analysis.
Excitement for 2025: Sridhar expresses excitement about the potential for AI and data to drive real business transformations in 2025. Snowflake will continue to play a vital role in helping customers become truly data-driven organizations. Navigating growth, competition, and innovation while maintaining simplicity and value for customers is key.
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The Big Themes:
- End-to-End Integration Is a Necessity: In today's fast-paced business environment, success requires a holistic, end-to-end understanding of operations. Organizations must break out of traditional silos. A great CIO and IT team must focus on connecting these silos, ensuring seamless workflows across the organization. This perspective enables businesses to optimize processes, meet customer expectations, and avoid inefficiencies.
- Logistics as a Strategic Advantage: Companies that excel in managing their supply chain —from sourcing to delivering products to customers — gain a competitive edge. In contrast, companies that neglect logistics risk disappointing customers with out-of-stock items or poor service. Sadin also underscores the complexities of modern global supply chains. Businesses need visibility into every link of the chain to anticipate risks and adapt proactively. This logistical foresight allows organizations to maintain customer loyalty and operational efficiency, even amid uncertainty.
- Strategic Iteration and Integration Is Key to Progress: Sadin stresses the importance of iterative improvement rather than overhauling systems entirely. His "patch, polish, then perfect" strategy encourages retailers to enhance existing systems incrementally, using tools like robotic process automation (RPA) to connect and optimize processes in the short term. Additionally, Sadin warns against delaying action, likening hesitation to "sitting on a sharp fence," which risks falling behind competitors.
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The Big Themes:
Network Benefits for Buyers and Suppliers: The SAP Business Network brings together buyers and suppliers. Buyers use the network to strengthen supply chains, meet sustainability goals, and access new markets. Suppliers use it for business growth, streamlined processes, and greater visibility. The network is free for suppliers to join, allowing them to build profiles, respond to RFIs, and engage in sourcing events. With millions of global suppliers, the network serves businesses of all sizes.
Transformation of Traditional Business Models: SAP Business Network is helping to eliminate the old divide between back-office and front-office operations. It integrates various business functions — procurement, supply chain, logistics, and order collaboration — making them work together to improve the customer experience. This transformation is vital in an era where customer experience is a key differentiator in competitive markets.
Inclusivity of Small and Medium-Sized Enterprises (SMEs): SAP Business Network is designed to serve businesses of all sizes, from large enterprises to smaller boutique firms. With the introduction of the Promote subscription in 2025, small suppliers can showcase their products and services alongside larger companies. Additionally, the network’s Discovery feature provides smaller suppliers with the chance to participate in large procurement opportunities.
The Big Quote: “We have the biggest companies in the world as suppliers on the network, but we also have millions of SME-sized organizations. Smaller suppliers don't always have a way to showcase their catalogs of products or services in the same way that maybe a large company or a large supply would have, but this new set of capabilities we're providing to suppliers under
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Episode 47 | 2024 Tech Insights & 2025 Strategies
The Big Themes:
- Trends in Technology Implementation Success Rates: Bonnie shares insights from 742 enterprise software implementation customer reviews. Average satisfaction for implementation processes scored 3.8 out of 5, while partners involved in these projects received a higher rating of 4.7. Projects were completed on time 72% of the time, though 25% faced delays. Budget compliance was slightly better, with 76% staying on budget. Delays often result from incomplete scoping or unforeseen change orders during the discovery phase.
- Lessons Learned for 2025 Enterprise Projects: Reflecting on 2024, Bonnie offers three lessons for future enterprise projects. First, businesses should prioritize selecting the right partner and involve them early. Second, companies should account for unforeseen delays and cost overruns by padding budgets and timelines by at least 25%. Finally, projects are increasingly complex; ensuring collaboration between vendors, partners, and internal teams is vital.
- Change Management Tailored to the Audience Drives Adoption: Modern change management extends beyond traditional training and rollout strategies. Effective change management involves clear communication, peer influence, and user-friendly training materials. In 2025, organizations must consider their workforce demographics and preferences — offering bite-sized, engaging content (e.g., TikTok-style videos) and gamified elements to ensure adoption.
The Big Quote: “The most successful projects were ones that had the blueprint of success that was clear and . . . a clear set of business requirements, policies, and processes that were in place prior to starting the project itself."
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Episode 55 | Tech Disruptions Ahead
The Big Themes:
- Optimism for 2025 as a Transformative Year: Wayne and Bob express optimism about 2025, particularly for the U.S. economy and its impact on CIOs and digital transformation initiatives. Sadin talks about deregulation and efficiency measures, such as those championed by the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), could boost confidence and growth.
- AI and Automation Rise: AI and automation are pivotal for driving efficiency and reclaiming productivity. Examples include ServiceNow’s claim of saving users 1.5 days of productivity weekly by automating low-value tasks. Wayne and Bob cite leaders like Larry Ellison and Elon Musk as potential drivers of this transformation, particularly if given the freedom to innovate without excessive regulation.
- Advances in Chip Technology Drive Performance and Cost Efficiency: Technological advances in chip design, such as the development of two-nanometer chips, promise dramatic gains in performance and efficiency. Wayne points out that smaller feature sizes on chips enable exponentially more transistors per unit, which reduces costs, improves thermal efficiency, and unlocks new capabilities for AI and data processing. This progress aligns with Moore’s Law and could revive productivity leaps in hardware development.
The Big Quote: "Microsoft's going to be a winner because they've got the legs of the stool, AI in it. Well, maybe four legs, AI, integration, platform, and application. And you don't see that with most of the other players, their application focus, their platform plus application, but Microsoft plays at all layers of the stack, so I can mix and match."
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Supply Chain Insights
The Big Themes:
- Customer-Centric Supply Chains: Customer-centric supply chains are about aligning every aspect of the supply chain to serve the ultimate consumer. Val describes this as keeping the "why" — the customer — at the forefront, rather than focusing solely on operational efficiencies. Companies that succeed here often find themselves leaders in their industries, regardless of size.
- Cultural and Technological Shifts in Supply Chain: Val underscores the need for cultural change within organizations to adopt customer-focused practices and leverage innovative technology. Businesses must move beyond outdated methods (e.g., fax orders) and embrace digital solutions. Leadership plays a vital role in fostering this transformation, promoting a culture of adaptability, and aligning employee incentives with customer-driven goals.
- The Role of Regulatory Compliance: Compliance with regulations, such as those preventing the use of goods linked to unethical practices like child labor, is becoming a non-negotiable aspect of supply chains. Val points out that meeting these requirements not only avoids legal penalties but also ensures long-term viability and trust in global markets. Compliance is a driving force for adopting modern supply chain technologies.
The Big Quote: “[SAP Business Network] really does modernize how companies connect and collaborate across the supply chain. More specifically, the platform integrates into a company's back-end system. It can be to their ERP system, it can be through their procurement system. It can integrate to their logistics system, their planning system, and it allows us to actually send transaction documents back and forth . . . and gives you visibility across that entire supply chain."
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Highlights
Expansions Through Acquisitions (01:32)
SignUp Software has been expanding its product portfolio, moving from a focus on the office of the CFO more broadly into the operations world. Through acquisitions, its product suite has evolved. In December 2023, SignUp Software acquired Axtension, a Netherlands-based company. It has been working with Axtension on emphasizing the “I” in ISV (independent software vendor).
One of the six products involved an overlap with ExFlow AP. This led the team to taking the best of IP (invoice processing) and moving it into ExFlow to build out an offering for AP automation. The other five products are targeted toward manufacturing and project-based businesses. “They fill great gaps with the Microsoft platform toward other ERP systems as well, so we’re really thrilled to present this,” Hedin says.
Easy Integration for Microsoft Users (06:20)
With these offerings, it becomes easier for customers to manage this integration within their ERP environments, especially for Microsoft users. Bigger, more complex Microsoft users often use three to five different ISVs, Hedin notes. Now, the company’s offering enables customers to use one solution to integrate Axtension and SignUp Software.
Autonomous Finance (10:05)
SignUp has been working on low-touch, autonomous finance for a while. It’s been set up with strict parameters. The system helps automate financial processes, such as processing invoices from suppliers. Gradually, the level of automation will increase as the system is used, reducing the need for hands-on processing.
Community Summit North America (13:13)
SignUp Software will be at Community Summit North America, which takes place on October 13-17 in San Antonio, Texas. “I think it’s the greatest event when we get the combination of Microsoft and customers, partners and product suppliers,” Hedin says. He encourages attendees to “mix and mingle across those borders…and have fun.”
Attendees can find Hedin and the SignUp Software team at Booth #1133. They are looking forward to chatting about the latest innovations from SignUp Software — including AI, e-invoicing, and more — and getting input from the customers.
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Highlights
The Significance of E-Invoicing for Modern Business (00:50)
Hedin describes e-invoicing as an evolution toward an easier, more standardized way to exchange information. It can include all the documents needed during the procure-to-pay process.
Electronic invoicing differs from traditional digital invoicing. E-invoicing started with a point-to-point connection. With e-invoicing, everything comes pre-validated because the invoice has to comply with certain formats, standards, and machines, such as ERP systems.
Continuous Transaction Controls (03:50)
Hedin provides a breakdown of the shift toward continuous transaction controls (CTC) and its benefits. CTC involves invoice data being transmitted to tax authorities in real time. He notes that governments getting more tax money is the biggest benefit; this is a main driving force behind the trend toward CTC. “It’s a fantastic driving force that will not stop this steam train that started rolling,” Hedin says.
This also introduces the business-to-government flow. Different countries can also have different country conditions. For instance, in some countries, before sending invoices, it has to be approved. Navarro acknowledges that this is an ongoing, evolving process.
E-Invoicing Compliance Mandates (07:57)
Hedin and Navarro share a few pieces of advice for how businesses can ensure they comply with e-invoicing mandates:
- Where is your business based and running? Organizations must have a very clear map this. Larger companies may have different subsidiaries with different legal backgrounds; business leaders must be aware of all of them.
- Where are you sending the invoice? There may be additional requirements to comply with depending on where the invoice is being sent.
- Find a partner that knows the legal frameworks of all the countries you work with. It’s vital to stay up-to-date with the mandates in the countries of your customers and partners.
While there may be challenges and growing pains with this, it will be helpful in the long run.
Looking Ahead (15:36)
Currently, there are a little over 50 countries that have government mandates. The expectation is that it will be well over 100 countries in five years from now. This is going fast and all the governments will want to jump on this bandwagon, Hedin notes.
Navarro suggests that one day, “the tax office will be just another business party.” While businesses will have to invoice customers and inform their tax authority, in the end, it will save time with tax return processes. “Take the tax authority as a business party, and the CTC is going to help in that direction.”
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Google Cloud's Innovation and Growth
The Big Themes:
- Google Cloud's record growth and market positioning: In 2024, Google Cloud experienced five consecutive quarters of accelerating growth, including a remarkable 35% growth in Q3, up from 29% in Q2. Kurian attributes this success to the company’s ability to listen to customers, innovate with products that meet their evolving needs, and strategically invest in a strong go-to-market organization.
- AI cost reduction and efficiency: Kurian comments on Google Cloud's efforts to significantly reduce the cost of AI models. Through improved software stack capabilities and optimizations, Google has decreased the cost of AI by more than 10x in just six months. Reducing latency, improving response accuracy, and utilizing distillation (e.g., making models run on smaller devices like phones) have contributed to lowering operational costs while increasing model efficiency. This approach has resulted in a 15-17x growth in model usage in just five months.
- The evolving role of cloud in business transformation: Kurian notes a fundamental shift in how businesses view cloud computing. Initially seen as a way to reduce costs, cloud is now seen as a tool for driving business transformation. AI, analytics, and security capabilities are helping organizations speed up decision-making, optimize logistics, and gain competitive advantages. Kurian believes that the next wave of cloud adoption will focus more on enabling new business models, products, and markets rather than just reducing IT costs.
The Big Quote: “We tend to look ahead by listening to customers and understanding their needs, and create in a disciplined way, new product offerings. If you look a the last five years, we've introduced enough steady cadence. First, we started with infrastructure, then we added databases to it. We used our strength with BigQuery to build out an analytics portfolio. We were one of the earliest to say . . . we should not only provide [customers] a secure cloud, but we should also build a security product portfolio. Every one of those has driven diversification of our revenue stream."
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Highlights
Creating Opportunities for the CFO (01:50)
The foundation for the CFO role is to keep customer costs under control and be compliant. With the emergence of copilot technology, it has created new opportunities for business; not only impacting tech roles but finance roles as well. It has become a great tool for making financial processes autonomous and reaching the first three Cs faster and more efficiently. For instance, it can make suggestions to improve workflows. Copilots can also perform actions based on data to create purchase orders or help with elements of ERP systems.
Strategic Decision Making (04:45)
CFOs and financial leaders can use copilots to make more informed, strategic decisions. With processes generating a variety of traces with transactions, CFOs can use copilots to consolidate that data. SignUp Software provides a dashboard for financial processes. Copilot can be applied to gain greater financial analytics; it can identify a problem efficiently, enabling users to find the root problem and resolve it faster.
AI-Driven Financial Management (06:25)
Financial processes can be time-consuming, such as the invoice approvals process. “We can help the approver with the most common ways that would be coded and just showing them with a little light bulb,” Hedin describes. “It’s an advanced algorithm…but it’s giving you advice on how you could do that and what has worked in the history, and also giving you the probability that the AI algorithm is actually right.” While there may be parts of AI that bundle inside the processes and work behind the scenes, copilot can be applied to specific processes to assist users.
Investing to Innovate (08:30)
SignUp Software has a full team focusing specifically on investing in AI to further innovations. This team has built a bot for support flows to help their customers. Users can ask the bot questions as well as use it for action-based scenarios, such as assistance with coding invoices and automating processes.
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Highlights
Current Challenges (00:48)
Manny names capital allocation as a major challenge for the office of the CFO. They spend much time thinking about which technologies and industry solutions are best to invest in. They have to determine which investments take priority, such as investing in tech that benefits the company’s back office versus their customers. Value creation is also a key consideration. “Our analysis on where do we invest those dollars has gotten a lot more granular and a lot more scrutiny around those decisions,” he says.
“Many of the CFOs face the challenge of doing more with less when money has gotten a bit more expensive,” Hedin raises. Another challenge he notes is regulatory aspects. The three C’s — cost, control, and compliance — need to be as efficient as possible. Determining how to leverage AI can be a challenge on the technology side.
AI Impact (07:17)
When building out large language models (LLMs) and algorithms, you have to ensure you have the right governance and controls internally on the data to get the desired outcome. This is vital when starting out leveraging new technologies to drive business decisions and efficiencies. While this can be daunting, “there’s a lot of value to it,” Manny notes. Once it’s tested and secure internally, the next phase of an AI journey is to look at it from a customer-facing perspective.
Hedin shares customer examples of applying machine learning and AI. “In the financial process automation space, AI is definitely saving a lot of time already today for a lot of CFOs,” Hedin says.
CFO AI Concerns and Second Half Mindset (11:30)
Korakis says the biggest risk is that AI outputs don’t necessarily align with the question an employee is seeking to answer. If a person thinks they’re feeding the algorithm or LLM all the right data points but they’re actually not, that’s a big issue. His company is ensuring good data governance.
Microsoft has made Copilot actionable for ISVs like Signup; since it’s embedded in Finance and Operations as well as Business Central, there are actions that weren’t available before, Hedin says. It’s one thing to get intelligent responses, but when you can also start doing things such as generating a PO if one’s missing, then you have an assistant that can do a lot more things for you. It’s really exciting in terms of customer problems that can be solved.
Korakis says in the first half of the year there’s been a lot of disruption in the macro environment that followed supply chain challenges: rising interest rates that created caution and the need to be very thoughtful in using investment dollars has slowed things down a bit. “I see that starting to phase off” and CFOs are more willing to spend as the second half approaches.
D365 Trends (15:09)
Hedin says AI is one big, obvious trend with Dynamics 365. The other is new regulatory demands. If you send an invoice to a customer in Italy you need to go through their tax authorities now so they can track it. A US customer asked to start invoicing in Germany and needed guidance. It varies by country. That’s a big challenge for the international companies as well – how to handle that in an efficient way.
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Highlights
2025 Expectations (02:07)
Ashe has had the opportunity to meet with and hear from customers about the challenges they're facing so SignUp can determine the kind of support customers need. A common theme that he has noticed is around "measuring what matters and trying to see how they can move to a predictive model because there's a lot of uncertainty." When business leaders are looking at solutions like ExFlow by SignUp, Ashe explains that it's "something that when we get through our implementation, we feel like we've got a path for them to be able to help meet those goals and, hopefully, improve their relationships with their vendors and reduce some of those risks."
ExFlow as an Enabler (05:30)
ExFlow focuses on AP automation within Dynamics 365 on both F&O and BC. The office of the CFO is changing to be more strategic with investments, mitigating risks, and predicting potential opportunities. ExFlow takes the amount of time that an organization spends on invoicing, for instance, and compresses it to reduce potential errors and give time back to the business. It also helps organizations measure key elements so they can re-architect their business to be more efficient and plan more effectively. "I think that's where a lot of the real value comes from," Ashe says.
Future of AI (08:10)
AI will continue to have a huge impact, Ashe considers. For most organizations, AI will have a wider impact of a big-bang approach. "I think some organizations are prepared for that...People are going to slowly but surely get more used to just having an autonomous agent there to help them do their jobs."
Previously, Hedin has discussed the premise of three horizons of AI that can be aligned with strategic decision-making and financial control. He elaborates on these horizons: The first horizon is having an immediate impact now, as it includes using copilots to optimize processes and models to become more efficient. The second horizon involves using AI to drive the setup of systems. The third horizon is more autonomous, allowing agents to manage reoccurring tasks, for example.
Driving an AI-Strategic View into 2025 (14:46)
"We're actually doing what we've always been doing," Hedin confirms. "We've been 100% a Microsoft-dedication ISV." He describes how SignUp Software builds on Microsoft's platform for industry-specific, horizontal solutions. "We need to be smart and use what they are doing and then build the last touch on top of that." This enables the company to build AI models that become better and better with each new generation.
Although AI and its evolution is becoming faster and faster, as people are increasingly absorbing the technology, the learning curve still takes time. While AI technology is being adoption, it still requires knowledge to work through prompts, asking the right questions, and fine-tuning models. We need to be maybe one to two years patient before achieving the real autonomous level, Hedin explains, but there are a lot of efficient processes on the way.
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HighlightsDriving Adoption (02:40)
At its recent financial earnings call, Microsoft reported dramatic results from its last quarter regarding Dynamics 365 (D365), Business Central (BC), and Finance and Operations (F&O), with 27% growth quarter over quarter. Some core factors are driving this pace of customer adoption in the mid-market and the enterprise. Hedin names three:
- The number of old platforms that need to be migrated: To access the newest and best features, organizations must be in the cloud — otherwise, they’ll be missing out on copilot, for instance.
- Companies need to save money and be more efficient. Automation enables companies to do more with less.
- Security is vital in finance, especially for fraud detection and prevention.
Hedin reports that SignUp Software had similar growth rates to Microsoft, so it has been able to maintain the same pace.
Industry Innovation (05:03)
Some vertical industries are quicker with their approach to modernization and digital transformations, especially in managing regulatory compliance and implementing other cybersecurity initiatives. Hedin describes the pace of innovation and modernization among various industries.
All industries have invoices. However, the industries accelerating their pace of modernization and implementing advanced solutions are the ones that have the most to gain and with high volumes, notes Hedin. He lists retail and government as two of the top industries here.
Partners contribute greatly to this pace. “It’s the solution architects and the business process designers that advise the customer on what they can do,” he says. When partners see the capabilities that come with modern offerings, they begin to suggest those offerings.
Investing in Modernization and Automation (08:43)
The office of the CFO should be keeping an eye out for key aspects and outcomes from their investments to modernize and automate. Efficiency and flexibility are two beneficial elements. “It comes back to process efficiency to have that low cost; you have to control compliance on those processes,” Hedin says.
Modern technologies, such as automation and AI, come with a lot of fear and uncertainty as well as assumptions that they will take the jobs of humans. For those involved with the day-to-day operations of a business, that’s not necessarily true. Investing in modernization can enhance business processes and enable humans to be redeployed to do other tasks.
The 4 Cs (11:25)
Hedin describes four Cs that can come with modern technologies and are essential when working with customers and partners, which SignUp Software puts into practice with its ExFlow offering:
- Cost
- Compliance
- Control
- Copilots
SignUp Software is “heavily entrenched” in its research and development (R&D) department, Hedin says. Customers can improve their return on investment (ROI) by embracing modern technologies, deploying their employees to higher-level tasks, and benefitting from the four Cs. Another factor that Hedin mentions is the standard for CO2 emissions for companies with more than 250 people. SignUp Software offers a product for CO2 management to help companies manage data and have greater control in working toward becoming
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Episode 46 | Driving Impact Through Partnership
The Big Themes:
- Partner-centric growth: Software vendors are increasingly focusing on building strong partnerships with resellers and service providers. This shift recognizes that partners are not just intermediaries but key drivers of innovation and customer success. By investing in training, support, and co-marketing, vendors are ensuring their partners can effectively sell, implement, and expand offerings, creating a more collaborative and mutually beneficial ecosystem.
- AI as a key enabler: AI is transforming the software industry by enhancing product capabilities and enabling smarter, data-driven offerings. Both vendors and partners are leveraging AI to improve customer experiences, automate tasks, and offer more personalized, efficient solutions. This technology is rapidly becoming a competitive differentiator, and vendors are embedding AI into their platforms to stay relevant in an increasingly AI-driven market.
- Platform ecosystems and digital marketplaces: Vendors are evolving from offering standalone products to creating expansive platforms that integrate third-party applications. This ecosystem approach drives innovation, creates new revenue streams, and provides customers with more comprehensive offerings. By fostering digital marketplaces, vendors and partners can offer tailored, scalable solutions that meet a variety of customer needs while expanding their reach and impact.
The Big Quote: “AI is the new UI, and you can't have an AI just exist within a singular system. You need the AI to be able to work throughout the business in an omnichannel sort of way."
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Bayer’s Data Evolution with AlloyDB
The Big Themes:
- Data complexity and intelligent agriculture: Bayer Crop Science is addressing agriculture's complex data challenges. The company integrates data such as satellite imagery, weather conditions, soil data, and IoT device inputs, to drive innovation in seed development and farming practices. By leveraging cloud technologies like AlloyDB, Bayer's teams can support the future of farming, despite challenges posed by climate change and rising global food demand.
- Integrating BigQuery for comprehensive analytics: To further enhance its data-driven insights, Bayer integrates Google BigQuery alongside AlloyDB for extensive data analysis. BigQuery serves as the central analytics warehouse, receiving billions of phenotypic data points for in-depth modeling and decision-making. During harvest season, Bayer can quickly access and analyze comprehensive datasets, enabling better decisions across production and supply chains.
- Harvest season demands and system resilience: During harvest season, Bayer Crop Science faces intense pressure as high volumes of data flow in, requiring real-time analysis and decision-making. The peak demand period sees a sharp increase in read and write operations, making it essential for Bayer's data system to function seamlessly. AlloyDB played a crucial role in handling these spikes by providing low-latency data processing and high availability.
The Big Quote: “Climate change is a new challenge. You see some of these forecasts coming out of academia that yields will go down by 30% — that will arrest this great trend that we've seen continually increasing over the last 100 years. We need to solve for that, and that's going to take new types of data and new approaches and these types of things."
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Episode 54 | AI, CIO Challenges
The Big Themes:
- Community Summit NA: Wayne talks about attending Community Summit and how the event stands out by offering user-driven insights that focus on real-world experiences with Microsoft ecosystems, rather than vendor-led marketing. The Summit provides a platform where users share practical, firsthand knowledge, allowing attendees to gain a deeper understanding of how Microsoft technologies work in real business settings. By fostering a community of real-world users, the Summit helps businesses navigate the complexities of implementing new technologies.
- The CIO’s evolving role amid AI demands: There's growing pressure on CIOs to adopt AI-driven strategies, reflecting a shift where AI, in particular, generative AI, is no longer just an optional tool but an expectation from executives and boards. This trend is reshaping industries differently. While sectors like finance can afford significant R&D investments in AI, others, such as retail, face tighter budgets and must be more strategic.
- Balancing innovation with cost control in AI Investments: They discuss the growing complexity and cost of AI investments, with Wayne urging CIOs to carefully evaluate the financial implications of adopting AI technologies. He points out that as AI tools become more integrated into business operations, their costs, including ongoing subscription fees, are likely to rise. CIOs must be strategic about which AI tools and platforms they adopt, ensuring that they do not overcommit financially.
The Big Quote: “We're drowning in information, we've got to move faster, and some of the GenAI and traditional AI stuff is taking a lot . . . away from us so we can move to operate at a higher level of reasoning, of thinking, of overseeing."
Episode 445 | Reflecting on 2 Years of Generative AI
The Big Themes:
- GenAI's Anniversary: Reflecting on the two-year anniversary of GenAI hitting the mainstream, Bonnie notes that in reality, we still haven't seen a lot of changes yet in the sense that AI hasn't taken our jobs. The overall consensus is that many people are using it to increase productivity; the idea that we're replacing half the workforce overnight is not coming to be.
- Rapid Implementation: While some companies may not have much flexibility on their implementation timeline, fast and cheap isn't necessarily the best way to incorporate AI. Rapid implementation can lead to unanticipated risks and increased costs in the long run.
- Software Vendors and Partners: For customers to truly benefit from implementing AI, they need good partners to help them be realistic with their timelines and options. The good software vendors and partners are cautioning customers to ensure they know what they're getting into and making deliverables clear.
The Big Quote: “Work with a partner that you trust and that's going to tell you the truth...They've seen it a million times. They know you as well and they know your resources. They know the scope of your project. Find those partners that you can really trust and they're going to help you [and] lead you on the right path.”
Transforming Business with Cloud
The Big Themes:
- Role of chief integration officer (CIO): Joe Fanutti, originally the CFO of Bill Gosling Outsourcing, transitioned into the chief integration officer role. His role exemplifies the need for businesses to integrate people, technology, and operations, particularly as companies pursue both organic and inorganic growth. This evolving CIO title represents a modern shift in leadership.
- Automation and workforce efficiency: Automation has been a key enabler for Bill Gosling, particularly in managing high workforce turnover and streamlining administrative tasks. For example, automation in resume ingestion and candidate matching optimized the hiring process, reducing manual work. Similarly, automation in bank reconciliations and supplier invoicing allowed the finance team to focus on high-value tasks.
- Empowering employees with AI: Workday Assistant has transformative potential in enhancing employee experiences within organizations. Workday Assistant leverages AI to streamline HR processes, allowing employees to access information and complete tasks with ease through conversational interfaces.
The Big Quote: "The payables team I have now is the same size as 10 years ago. So we're able to scale . . . . [from] 400 to 6,000 employees, but the payables team is the same size. How did we do that? Well, that's how you do it — automation."
Oracle's Expanding Multi-Cloud Strategy
The Big Themes:
- Oracle's unique cloud architecture: Oracle’s differentiated cloud architecture offers customers flexibility across different environments, whether public, private, or government. This hybrid architecture ensures that customers can deploy the same services whether they need an on-premises solution, a fully isolated cloud region, or a multi-cloud setup. Oracle's approach also addresses the specific needs of regulated industries, like finance or healthcare.
- Global expansion and investments: Oracle is heavily investing in expanding its cloud infrastructure across the globe, including in emerging markets like Saudi Arabia, Malaysia, and Latin America. These investments aim to meet growing local demands for cloud services while enhancing Oracle’s global footprint. By establishing more localized data centers, Oracle can reduce latency for customers, ensure data sovereignty, and cater to regional regulatory requirements.
- Multi-cloud partnerships: Oracle’s partnerships with major cloud providers like Microsoft, Google Cloud, and AWS represent a shift in the cloud industry, as it was previously unheard of for these companies to collaborate. Oracle recognized early on that customers were using multi-cloud strategies, so it adapted by integrating with these other platforms. Its willingness to collaborate with competitors reflects its commitment to answering customers' needs.
The Big Quote: “It is very clear that customers drive our strategy . . . Oracle is kicking this multi-cloud era forward, an open era, if you will."
Episode 53 | Future-Ready IT Offerings
The Big Themes:
- ServiceNow's innovation: Wayne Sadin talks about ServiceNow, which Bob recently wrote about, as a first mover in the market, leading the way in creating intelligent solutions that facilitate interoperability between different applications and workflows. This innovation reflects a broader trend in the tech industry toward integrated platforms that can handle diverse business needs without forcing organizations to invest in multiple standalone tools.
- Interoperability focus: Vendors should prioritize creating systems that allow for seamless interoperability and integration across various platforms. Interoperability is not merely about compatibility; it encompasses the ability to facilitate data sharing and process integration among disparate systems.
- Multi-cloud strategies: Wayne notes the importance of multi-cloud strategies, suggesting that flexibility and the ability to connect different systems will be crucial for organizations looking to avoid vendor lock-in. In an era where no single cloud provider can meet every organization's needs, a multi-cloud approach allows businesses to select the best solutions tailored to their specific requirements.
The Big Quote: “The answer for every vendor is, to facilitate interoperability, make it easy for me to do my job better. Yes, you could build a walled garden, like the cloud vendors all did . . . That's the resort of the person with the inferior product . . . I want the ability to interoperate. I want them to all think this is not a zero-sum game."
The Big Themes:
- Oracle’s multi-cloud strategy: Karan emphasized how Oracle has been working for nearly a decade to offer customers flexibility in using Oracle’s technology across different cloud providers. It has partnerships with Microsoft, Google, and now AWS, allowing customers to use Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) with the same performance and reliability as they would on Oracle's platform.
- Technology and business challenges: Karan acknowledged the technical complexity of integrating OCI into other cloud providers' systems, but stressed that the bigger challenge was building the relationships necessary to make these partnerships work. The goal has been to break down competitive barriers and prioritize customer needs, which he sees as a transformative approach in the tech industry.
- Scaling infrastructure: Oracle is simultaneously building large-scale data centers for the growing AI and cloud needs, while also working on smaller, more modular systems that can be deployed quickly. This allows them to scale up or down based on customer demand, addressing a broad spectrum of use cases.
The Big Quote: "Our goal is to allow customers to get access to Oracle technology in an untethered way with the same level of security, regulatory compliance, and performance... Everything, everywhere. All services are secure, all services are performant. You pick."
Google Cloud's AI Edge
The Big Themes:
- Google Cloud’s AI leadership and Gemini: Google Cloud's Gemini model demonstrates its continued innovation in the AI space. The Gemini AI family integrates advanced capabilities in natural language processing (NLP), machine learning (ML), and large language models (LLMs) to deliver groundbreaking business offerings. With the rise of GenAI, Gemini serves as the backbone for a wide array of applications, including chatbots, content generation, and predictive analytics.
- Strategic partnerships boosting Google Cloud’s ecosystem: Google Cloud has strategically partnered with industry leaders like NVIDIA, SAP, and Salesforce to expand its AI and cloud computing capabilities. Google Cloud’s partnership with NVIDIA allows businesses to leverage the power of high-performance GPUs for demanding AI workloads. Meanwhile, partnerships with SAP and Salesforce bring AI-enhanced ERP and CRM systems to the forefront of digital transformation efforts.
- Generative AI and its business implications: Google Cloud’s GenAI is setting new benchmarks for business applications. GenAI goes beyond traditional automation by creating entirely new content. For businesses, this opens up endless possibilities. Among them, customer-facing applications such as chatbots powered by GenAI can mimic human conversation with a high degree of accuracy, creating more meaningful customer interactions.
The Big Quote: "It's not that the robots are coming to take over our jobs, it's that it's making an agent more productive, and it's making a customer experience just more satisfying."
Oracle Cloud Success Strategies
The Big Themes:
- Customer Success Services creation: Oracle established Customer Success Services to provide comprehensive support for customers using its cloud tools. This integration of various service organizations — such as education, consulting, and customer success management — aims to create a unified approach, ensuring customers receive consistent and effective assistance while adopting the cloud.
- Introduction of Navigator tool: The Oracle Cloud Navigator is designed to assist customers in navigating their cloud transformation more efficiently. This digital platform streamlines the onboarding process, providing best practices and facilitating quick configurations, ultimately helping clients achieve value faster and more effectively.
- Concierge services enhancement: Oracle is introducing new concierge services to address the complexities of multi-cloud environments. These services aim to provide tailored support for troubleshooting and integration challenges, reinforcing Oracle's commitment to customer success and ensuring that users can efficiently resolve issues, regardless of where they originate.
The Big Quote: “What's unique about Oracle is our enterprise-grade embedded AI. In the application space, we say, let's bring AI to your end users . . . but it's not easy for customers. 'Okay, which one should I use? How do I use them?' So we put a whole program together, which explains the new innovations."
Episode 44 | Workday Rising AI Insights
The Big Themes:
- The evolution of AI tools: AI tools have moved from basic task automation to more sophisticated systems like copilots and autonomous agents. Bonnie introduces the concept of "orchestrators," which monitor and optimize workflows based on real-time feedback. This evolution signifies a shift toward more dynamic and intelligent systems that can adapt to changing business environments and user needs.
- Strategic partnership: Bonnie talks about the significance of partnerships, particularly between Workday and Salesforce, in creating a more powerful toolset for users. By leveraging both organizations' strengths, customers can access integrated solutions that enhance operational efficiency. This partnership exemplifies how collaboration in the tech industry can lead to greater innovation and more comprehensive service offerings.
- Illuminate, the AI branding strategy: Workday's branding of its AI initiatives as "Illuminate" represents a strategic approach to making AI accessible and user-friendly. Bonnie explains that this branding aims to demystify AI for end-users, transforming it from a complex developer tool into a consumer-grade experience. This initiative reflects a broader trend of making advanced technologies more approachable for everyday users.
The Big Quote: “The power of the partnership between [Workday and Salesforce], leveraging both of their agencies together, is a real win for customers."
AI Transformation at NetSuite
The Big Themes:
- AI integration and customization: NetSuite focused on integrating AI into its platform. Evan points out the importance of large language models and traditional AI working together to identify data patterns and enhance productivity. Features like Text Enhance and the new “Ask Oracle” tool enable businesses to tailor AI applications to their specific needs without needing extensive IT resources.
- AI adoption across industries: NetSuite is seeing a surge in AI adoption, especially among its customers in software and internet industries. However, the company’s strategy is to make AI valuable and user-friendly for all sectors. By integrating AI tools directly into everyday workflows, like using the search box to ask complex business questions, NetSuite aims to make non-technical users comfortable with these advanced tools.
- Meeting business needs with tailored offerings: NetSuite is committed to providing businesses with tools that are both powerful and easy to customize, catering especially to small and midsize businesses that may lack extensive IT resources. The company's philosophy has always been to offer robust out-of-the-box capabilities while also allowing customers to tailor these features to their specific needs. Recent AI-driven enhancements demonstrate this commitment.
The Big Quote: “You should be able to ask the question in plain language and get an answer back in plain language, and that's the ultimate business user experience.”
Efficient AI Model Economics
The Big Themes:
- GenAI and its practical application: GenAI has emerged as a major focus in enterprise settings, with organizations exploring its potential to enhance core business processes. While many have successfully integrated generative AI into their workflows, others face challenges moving beyond continuous prototyping to actual production deployment. Key to overcoming these hurdles is understanding the limitations and capabilities of AI models.
- Economic advantages of smaller AI models: Smaller AI models, such as the 35 billion parameter models from Cohere, represent a significant economic shift in the AI landscape. These models, which can be run on a single GPU, offer a more cost-effective alternative to larger models, reducing the financial burden associated with AI deployment. These mid-sized models are not only cheaper but also capable of covering the majority of use cases effectively.
- AI integration into Oracle's software-as-a-service (SaaS) portfolio: Oracle has integrated generative AI into its software-as-a-service (SaaS) portfolio, enhancing various business functions without additional charges. This integration includes features like automated job postings and Salesforce optimization. Greg notes that this approach adds significant value to Oracle's offerings.
The Big Quote: “People try to chase the latest and be on the frontier but never really commit to making something work for production."
Oracle's Industry Cloud Innovations
The Big Themes:
- AI integration in Industry Applications: AI, especially GenAI is playing a significant role in transforming industry applications. Mike explains how AI technologies are enhancing customer experiences, such as in healthcare, where they automate routine tasks and improve patient interactions. This integration is expected to continue growing.
- Shift towards Industry Suites: There is a clear shift toward adopting Industry Suites rather than piecemeal cloud solutions. Mike explains that Industry Suites, which integrate various technologies and services, are becoming more popular as they offer a cohesive solution and reduce the need for extensive regression testing and complex integrations. They help organizations maintain cloud benefits, such as innovation and security, without the drawbacks of fragmented systems.
- Business transformation through technology: Technology has a huge impact on broader business transformation. Mike notes that what starts as an IT project can evolve into a comprehensive business transformation initiative. For instance, AI-driven offerings in healthcare are not only improving operational efficiency but also transforming business models and patient care.
The Big Quote: “Everybody's here to serve their customers. Patients are customers, people who check into hotels and customers, people who eat at restaurants or customers. Every CEO that I engage with says, 'This transformation helps me serve my customers better, and that's why I want to engage in it.'"
Google Cloud AI Security Insights
The Big Themes:
- Google’s ecosystem-driven security approach: Google Cloud's partner ecosystem, consisting of entities such as managed security service providers (MSSPs) and global systems integrators, helps deliver top-notch security services. While Google maintains a small in-house service capability, partners are key to scaling and extending innovations to customers. Google provides AI tools to partners, who enhance their product offerings to better serve end customers. This model ensures that the latest security advancements, such as AI integration, are accessible.
- Transitioning from assisted to autonomous security: Google Cloud envisions a future where AI will evolve from assistive to fully autonomous security workflows. Currently, AI plays an assistive role by providing actionable insights to security teams, helping them prioritize threats and respond more effectively. However, the goal is to transition these capabilities into semi-autonomous workflows, with the potential for fully autonomous security systems in the future.
- Enhancing CISOs’ efficiency with AI: One of the key problems CISOs face today is the overwhelming number of security alerts, which makes it challenging to identify and act on the most critical threats. Google Cloud addresses this issue by leveraging AI to sift through thousands of alerts, helping CISOs quickly identify the most significant risks. AI can provide real-time insights, suggesting actions to mitigate potential threats and reduce the noise from less pressing alerts.
The Big Quote: “AI is only as good as the data that the model is trained on and, in the world of security, we happen to have probably the world's most high quality and quantitative data set in threat intelligence."
Episode 43 | Oracle's AI and Security Innovations
The Big Themes:
- Completeness of suite: Oracle has an integrated approach across industries, offering a full suite of applications and services. Its multi-cloud offerings and the inclusion of infrastructure and vertical-specific applications set it apart. This completeness was emphasized with customer stories from DHL, MGM, and others.
- Embedded AI: Oracle’s AI tools are built directly into its applications, providing contextual insights based on user roles, history, and security levels. This integration allows for seamless decision-making across different business functions like HR, sales, and supply chain management, offering customers greater functionality without adding to their tech stack.
- Security: Larry Ellison discussed Oracle's commitment to eliminating passwords and enhancing security through biometrics. Oracle’s security offerings operate at the data, application, user ID, and network levels. The approach involves building strong networks first and then deploying security "agents" to detect and neutralize threats.
The Big Quote: “ . . . Embedded AI means that clients just have to turn it on. It's not like they have to add something new to the tech stack. It is there as an option, whether they turn it on or off."
Scaling Generative AI
The Big Themes:
- Prioritizing cost and impact: Businesses are focused on the dual priorities of cost efficiency and impactful results when implementing generative AI. With numerous potential applications for generative AI, organizations need to evaluate which projects will deliver the highest value. This approach involves collaborating with partners to identify the opportunities that offer the most substantial benefits.
- Open ecosystem advantage: Google Cloud’s emphasis on openness and flexibility is a key differentiator in the AI landscape. Its commitment to open systems and platforms allows for various models and technologies, including first-party and open-source offerings. This open ecosystem approach enables businesses to leverage various AI models and infrastructure options, enhancing scalability and adaptability.
- End-to-endofferings: Google Cloud offers a comprehensive AI stack that supports a wide range of applications, from foundational models to advanced infrastructure. This end-to-end tool facilitates the development and scaling of sophisticated AI applications. The integration of various layers, including model capabilities, hardware options, and platform services, enables partners to deliver efficient and effective AI offerings.
The Big Quote: “Having great models is one thing, but having differentiated infrastructure and a platform — all those three things come together, and I think we are unique in that sense."
Creating Value with Teradata
The Big Themes:
- Open Table Formats: Datasets are one of the most common ways that organizations use open table formats, as it enables them to combine several types of data and access that data. Open table formats are improving performance which will help drive a more flexible, low-cost storage option for enterprises. Having this level of customer choice will drive greater adoption and outcomes for customers deploying open table formats over time.
- Trusted AI: Trusted systems require access to data, but it must be properly managed data. Open table formats can help with trusted data progression, such as reducing data duplication by consolidation and providing a single place of oversight. As open table formats match agility and flexibility with the appropriate levels of governance, it can deliver trusted outcomes that overflow into providing trusted AI.
- Driving Customer Value and Success: Providing customers with opportunities for success is the ultimate driver. For example, Teradata supported a call center that wanted to improve customer satisfaction and outcomes based on the call center data. Teradata provided the organization with text analytics, large language models, and more being driven through a Teradata analytic model engine that provides real-time advice to agents.
The Big Quote: “We’ve always said, ‘Whoever has access to the most data can win in the analytics space.’ So, open table formats are a key component of really helping companies create an environment of trust around the data because without trusted data, you can’t have trusted AI.”
Google Cloud Data Innovations
The Big Themes:
- Integration of unstructured data with AI: Google Cloud is shifting how enterprises leverage their data by integrating unstructured data (which makes up 85-90% of all data) with structured data through its BigQuery multimodal data foundation. This integration allows for a more comprehensive data landscape where AI models can seamlessly access and analyze both types of data. This approach addresses the limitations of traditional data systems and unlocks new potential for AI-driven analytics.
- The role of partners in maximizing AI and data value: Google Cloud’s service partners implement solutions and bring industry best practices to customer environments, while independent software vendors (ISVs) build applications that leverage Google Cloud’s data and AI tools. Programs like the Google Cloud Ready (GCR) initiative streamline integrations.
- Integration challenge: The challenge for organizations lies in connecting disparate data sources, such as operational data from systems like SAP and CRM data from Salesforce, with analytics tools to enable real-time decision-making. Google Cloud addresses this by developing connectors, such as Cortex.
The Big Quote: “We are coming to the Third Age in data, which is going to divide data systems. It’s not just about having lots of one data type… it’s having the broadest possible set of data signals you can bring together. That idea of wide data systems means combining all of your data signals, structured and unstructured, into one unified system."
AI-Powered Cloud Transformation Insights
The Big Themes:
- Google Cloud's strategic growth and AI integration: Google Cloud has experienced unprecedented growth, becoming a leading cloud provider by evolving beyond traditional cloud services. Integrating AI into its offerings is a significant factor in this growth. The focus has shifted from merely migrating existing workloads to using AI to transform business processes and models. This includes innovative applications of GenAI.
- AI-driven business transformation across sectors: AI plays a pivotal role in reshaping business operations across various industries. For example, in retail, AI optimizes supply chains and reduces environmental impact, while in the automotive sector, it enhances digital engagement and customer interactions. The use of AI enables companies to reimagine their business models, achieve operational efficiencies, and deliver personalized experiences.
- The role of data foundations: A robust data foundation is crucial for leveraging AI effectively. Google Cloud’s data platform provides the essential infrastructure for eliminating data silos, enhancing data labeling, and performing complex predictions. This foundational support is integral to deploying AI applications that drive personalized marketing and operational efficiencies.
The Big Quote: "We've always believed [that] Google and its ecosystem is truly a one plus one equals three. From an ecosystem perspective, I mentioned how we've always believed in an open platform strategy. Whether [the] technology provider has something that is complementary [or] overlapping, we embrace the technology company to build on our platform and offer those solutions through our marketplaces so customers have a choice."
Episode 43 | Upcoming Conference Insights
The Big Themes:
- UpcomingHR and tech conferences: Oracle CloudWorld will cover AI in Fusion Applications, Oracle's autonomous database, and cloud innovations, with keynotes from Safra Catz and Larry Ellison. Workday Rising will focus on employee empowerment, new global payroll offerings, and AI in HCM. The HR Technology Conference will explore AI solutions for HR functions and system integration. SAP SuccessConnect will showcase global human experience management, AI-enabled learning, and cloud migrations.
- AI-driven decision-making and transformation of work practices: The conferences will spotlight how AI tools can enhance decision-making by analyzing data to predict business outcomes, while also transforming work practices. This transformation includes reducing administrative tasks and improving efficiency.
- Interconnectedness of systems: The conferences will also feature a strong emphasis on breaking down organizational silos and improving system integration, especially among larger ERP vendors. The aim is to enhance visibility and streamline operations across different departments.
The Big Quote: “What are the partners doing to bring innovation to the forefront? How is [the] implementation of these products changing in light of AI and generative AI? Those would be the main takeaways that we're hoping to see from CloudWorld."
Trusted AI Models and Strategies
The Big Themes:
- Data reliability: After conducting a survey, Teradata found that 40% of executives don't trust their own data to generate accurate AI outputs. AI requires traceability and transparency around where data comes from. Teradata helps combat this disconnect by providing access and opportunities for companies to use their data in more compelling ways to achieve the business outcomes they're looking for.
- 3 Pillars of AI: Teradata recognizes people, transparency, and value creation as three core elements of AI. Having clean data that you can trust is critical. Ensuring ROI on the AI investments to create value is essential. Having a process that provides better compliance, governance, and security is vital.
- AI strategy: Business leaders and the C-suite must understand their own inputs and outputs to make the company better. Teradata believes in building Trusted AI models to ensure businesses have outputs they can rely on.
The Big Quote: “We believe that trusted AI is really the way that people, data, and AI work together...Ultimately, it is the responsibility of the people that are managing those environments, using that data to ensure and determine that it's used in the right purposes."
Cloud Tech in Banking
The Big Themes:
- Principles and people-centered transformation: Core principles such as standardizing processes and ensuring data integrity drove Standard Chartered's transformation. The transformation was not merely about technology but about enabling its people to perform their jobs more effectively. This people-centered approach ensured that technological changes translated into real, practical improvements in daily operations.
- Strategic partnership: SAP provided a robust platform that supported Standard Chartered's data strategy and operational needs across diverse markets. Falk Rieker noted the significance of programs like RISE with SAP and GROW with SAP in facilitating the bank's transition to the cloud, addressing regulatory requirements, and enhancing process efficiencies.
- Leveraging data and AI for future innovations: With a unified data environment, Standard Chartered can leverage advanced technologies like artificial intelligence to drive better business insights, efficiency, and sustainability efforts. This strategic approach positions the bank to quickly implement new tools and capabilities.
The Big Quote: "When we embarked on our transformation, it was not to transform the technology, it was to transform our finance and treasury functions that supported the bank . . . we picked the best platform that would support that target operating model and support that transformation . . . So, we went into this with SAP."
AI & Data in Construction
The Big Themes:
- AI in construction: Artificial intelligence (AI) is reshaping the construction industry by automating routine tasks and enhancing project management. Tim discusses AI's capabilities in predictive maintenance, which prevents equipment failures and reduces downtime. Additionally, AI-driven tools assist in optimizing construction schedules and managing labor resources.
- Strategic workforce management: Proper workforce management is essential for maximizing productivity and profitability. It's important to align skilled workers with the right roles and invest in their continuous training. By ensuring the team is well-trained and strategically deployed, construction companies can significantly improve project outcomes and maintain high productivity levels.
- Focus on margins: To improve profit margins, construction firms must implement stringent cost management practices. There's a need for detailed project planning, budget controls, and efficient expense management. Monitoring costs meticulously and optimizing resource use help maintain profitability.
The Big Quote: "We never want to remove the human element, we just want to accelerate the decision-making process by having all of the number crunching and the trend analysis being done by the technology."
Episode 42 | Workday Partner Insights
The Big Themes:
- Role of Workday Marketplaces: The Workday Marketplace and the Workday AI Marketplace help customers find partners and specific products tailored to their industry, geography, and particular needs. These centralized resources streamline the search process, enabling customers to make more informed decisions and leverage the most suitable innovations and services for their business objectives.
- Categories of Workday partners: Workday partners can be categorized into sales partners, services partners, and innovation partners. Each type serves a different role, from selling offerings to implementing and supporting them, as well as creating complementary products. Understanding these distinctions helps customers identify the right partner for their specific needs, ensuring a more tailored and effective offering deployment.
- Risks and benefits of rapid implementations: While rapid implementation methodologies can offer quick solutions, they come with fixed scopes and potential risks. Customers need to be cautious and aware of the trade-offs between speed and thoroughness to avoid costly reworks.
The Big Quote: "It's really important for customers to understand. If you're looking at a partner, where is their core expertise? Are they sales? Are they services? Are they innovation? Are they all three? And what is it that your organization needs?"
Episode 52 | Cloud Innovation Impact
The Big Themes:
- Cloud industry dynamics: Wayne discusses the competitive landscape of cloud computing, emphasizing Oracle's evolving strategies to compete with giants like AWS and Microsoft Azure. He discusses how Oracle's Autonomous Database and other innovations are crucial in this race, reflecting broader trends toward automation and efficiency in enterprise IT.
- Multi-cloud strategies: The discussion covers the strategic advantages of multi-cloud environments, where organizations leverage multiple cloud providers to optimize performance, mitigate risks, and enhance flexibility. Interoperability and workload distribution play an important role in multi-cloud strategies. Enterprises increasingly adopt a multi-cloud approach to avoid vendor lock-in and maximize operational efficiency.
- Strategic insights: Wayne advises businesses to prioritize alignment between IT and business goals when adopting cloud technologies. Strategic planning, stakeholder engagement, and continuous evaluation of cloud investments are necessary to ensure they contribute effectively to organizational growth and competitive advantage.
The Big Quote: "We at IT shouldn't be so proud that we say, 'Well, only this cloud provider works.' We've got to accept the fact that we live in a multi-cloud world, we've got to accept the fact that pieces of infrastructure talk to each other across these interfaces (cloud interfaces, database interfaces)."
Episode 42 | ServiceNow's AI Partner Strategy
The Big Themes:
- Shift in ecosystem strategy: Companies like ServiceNow are shifting from viewing partners as mere distributors or implementers to integral parts of their business strategy. This shift emphasizes collaboration and joint value creation rather than just sales margins, marking a significant evolution in how large vendors approach their partner ecosystems.
- Types of ServiceNow partners: ServiceNow partners are categorized into four main groups: resellers, service providers, consulting and implementation partners, and build partners. Each type utilizes AI differently and contributes to the ecosystem uniquely.
- Emphasis on proof and customer satisfaction: Amid the excitement around AI and ecosystem expansion, there's a strong emphasis on tangible results and customer satisfaction. Potential customers are advised to verify partner capabilities through proof of successful projects and customer references. Due diligence is critical in selecting partners for AI-driven initiatives.
The Big Quote: "It's no longer about 'How can I reduce expenses?' or caring about the bottom line. I think it's this realization that customers have to say, 'How can I use the art of what's possible now with AI to make ourselves into the next Uber or Airbnb and change what we're doing in our industry?'"
Driving Innovation at SAP
The Big Themes:
- Focus on business transformation: SAP's new board area, customer services and delivery, aims to help customers with business transformation rather than just technology transformation. This involves moving to the cloud and adopting innovations like AI to enhance business agility and efficiency.
- Collaboration with hyperscalers and system integrators: SAP collaborates closely with hyperscalers for optimal cloud operations and system integrators for business transformation. This co-engineering approach ensures high availability and promotes SAP’s cloud solutions through partners.
- Acceleration and simplification: SAP emphasizes the importance of not delaying digital transformation. With examples like Fresenius and BMW, SAP shows that moving to the cloud and adopting new technologies can be accelerated and simplified, benefiting customers with faster upgrades and new capabilities.
The Big Quote: “First of all, this is always the right time to start. Now. So never wait. Because all of this world is in the stage where investing in digital capabilities is always the right thin
Episode 41 | Oracle's AI-Driven Future
The Big Themes:
- Oracle's AI advancements: Oracle showcased rapid advancements in AI capabilities, introducing 50 new AI features, including generative AI models for tasks like creating job descriptions and email templates. It aims to ensure speed in innovation, with 25 of these capabilities specifically tailored for HR.
- Oracle's commitment to healthcare: Oracle is strengthening its focus on healthcare, moving its headquarters to Nashville, the epicenter of healthcare tech. Since acquiring Cerner in 2021, Oracle is working to integrate clinical, patient, and administrative systems into a seamless ecosystem. Its commitment extends beyond Cerner, as it tailors offerings for clients using Epic, enhancing workforce management, recruitment, and operational efficiency.
- Improving candidate experience: Oracle is enhancing the candidate experience with its latest updates to Oracle Recruiting Cloud. A new product line, Boost, aims to improve recruitment efficiency through AI-driven tools, offering candidates a more personalized and engaging application process. These advancements reflect a broader trend in the industry to prioritize not just customer and employee experiences, but also those of potential hires.
The Big Quote: "I think [conference attendees] [are] really jazzed because of what the possibilities with AI are . . . what they were showing, in terms of AI, brought a new spring in their step."
AI Frontiers
The Big Themes:
- Shift from digital to AI transformation: There's been a significant evolution in the focus of businesses from digital transformation to AI-driven innovation. Initially, companies aimed to enhance their existing digital processes using the latest technologies. However, the current emphasis is on leveraging AI to fundamentally transform business operations and create new value.
- Partner ecosystem collaboration: ServiceNow’s strategy involves deep collaboration with a diverse ecosystem of partners such as Accenture, NVIDIA, Hugging Face, and Microsoft. By integrating NVIDIA's AI capabilities or Microsoft's Copilot features, ServiceNow can offer more robust and versatile tools to its clients. This collaborative approach helps businesses adopt AI more effectively.
- Importance of taking the first step: Wright stresses the significance of starting the AI journey. While the potential of AI is vast, the initial step is often the hardest, and people get bogged down in pontificating and debating possibilities. Businesses are encouraged to begin their transformation process to explore and realize the opportunities AI presents.
The Big Quote: "Every month, [AI] opens up more and more possibilities. And I think that's the mindset that you need . . . you don't need to be thinking, 'How can I do what I did before better?' You need to be thinking, 'How can I do now what I could never do before?'"
AI Drives Transformation
The Big Themes:
- ServiceNow's strong partner ecosystem: ServiceNow showcased its commitment to a partner-first strategy with a substantial presence of partners at the event. The Partner Innovation Zone and Partner Pavilion demonstrated partners' critical role in ServiceNow’s ecosystem. Erica mentions PartnerFinder, a ServiceNow tool designed to make it easy for customers to select the partner that's the best fit for them.
- GenAI and ServiceNow: Erica talks about GenAI's pivotal role in ServiceNow's future. ServiceNow's partners have been at the forefront of this AI revolution, undergoing extensive training on Pro Plus since September 2023. Jensen Huang from NVIDIA spoke at the event about ServiceNow's significant impact on NVIDIA's operations and their collaborative efforts in AI.
- Major partnerships and innovations: Key announcements included a significant partnership with Microsoft, integrating Microsoft’s Copilot with ServiceNow’s Now Assist, and a collaboration with Genesys for call center technology. These developments reflect ServiceNow's expansion into the front office.
The Big Quote: “[In a year], I still think we'll be talking about GenAI . . . we'll have real use cases. I think we'll be able to really share productivity statistics that show the impact of GenAI so that people are like, 'Wow.' We're going from, 'Is this real? Should I do a proof of concept?' to 'How do I proliferate GenAI across the platform . . . knowing the company will have at least crossed the 20,000 customer mark in terms of attendance?'"
Episode 51 | Strategic IT Budgeting
The Big Themes:
- Integrated investment approach: Wayne advocates for aligning IT investments with broader company goals, urging against treating IT as a separate entity. This approach ensures that IT projects are evaluated alongside other investments, prioritizing those with the highest strategic value.
- Time allocation for CIOs: Wayne recommends that CIOs dedicate around 20-25% of their time to budget-related activities, including engaging with business stakeholders, discussing investment priorities, and strategic planning. This time investment is critical for ensuring that IT initiatives are aligned with broader business objectives.
- Comprehensive project costing: A transparent and comprehensive approach to project costing, where expenses are aggregated to provide a holistic view of total project costs can be beneficial. This strategy prevents budget overruns and facilitates better decision-making throughout the project lifecycle.
The Big Quote: “Don't budget only for implementation. I see this all the time. If the project is going to be $10 million to put it in, what's your first year, first 18 months of costs? People say my project is to put in Product X. Now when the product is done, there's the ongoing cost — especially in the SaaS [software-as-a-service] world, that's not insignificant."
Cloud ERP and Generative AI
The Big Themes:
- Generative AI in cloud enterprise resource planning (ERP): Russell discusses how SAP is responding to evolving customer demands by prioritizing integrating generative AI technologies into its cloud ERP offerings. This proactive stance not only aligns with market trends but also underscores SAP's commitment to innovation and customer-centricity.
- Anticipation for Sapphire: The anticipation surrounding SAP's forthcoming Sapphire event is palpable. Attendees are eager to gain valuable insights, learn from real-world success stories, and engage in meaningful networking opportunities. This anticipation underscores the pivotal role of Sapphire as a premier platform for SAP to showcase its latest innovations, share thought leadership, and foster collaboration within its vibrant ecosystem.
- Executive leadership Involvement: Executive leaders such as CEOs and CFOS are broadening their involvement in strategic technology decisions, transcending traditional IT boundaries. This expanding engagement encompasses leveraging AI to drive value and results, not solely focused on efficiency and cost optimization but also broader organizational goals.
The Big Quote: “[Customers] were doing proof of concepts, they were testing how [GenAI] could potentially solve business problems. They've moved beyond that. Now they're looking for solutions. They're looking for outcomes. They understand the power of the technology, but it needs to be matched with real benefits, real value, real outcomes."
The Big Themes
- Customer priorities: Josyula identifies top priorities for ServiceNow customers, including business transformation driven by technology, a focus on GenAI and AI more broadly, and vendor consolidation (choosing a few strategic platforms and going all in). With customer priorities in mind, ServiceNow is on a journey to becoming the AI platform for end-to-end transformation, developing GenAI products and services to improve both the employee and customer experience.
- Understanding non-tech executive priorities: Having a relationship CIOs and CTOs can be helpful because they often play a part in driving business transformation that's driven by technology. It's helpful for non-tech execs to see the benefits of ServiceNow within their own functions. Partners also contribute to fostering conversations about successful outcomes, serving as great reference points demonstrating value.
- What to expect at Knowledge24: Attendees can expect to hear more about how ServiceNow is rapidly innovating in AI and GenAI in its platform and across several solutions areas as well as how ServiceNow is focusing on customer value with its ecosystem.
The Big Quote: "We are on this journey of being the AI platform for end-to-end digital transformation. And what this means is we started with our roots in it, we had IT service management and operations management. But quickly, our customers, in many cases, pulled us deeper into it, as we looked at helping them deliver on asset management, security, and risk."
Episode 40 | AI Empowerment at Workday
The Big Themes:
- Rapid innovation with Workday Extend: Workday Extend is a pivotal aspect of Workday's platform strategy. It facilitates rapid innovation, enabling quick responses to emergent needs such as workforce adjustments during the COVID-19 pandemic. The platform's flexibility empowers users to develop bespoke solutions tailored to their unique requirements. It reflects Workday's ambition to evolve beyond being solely an application company
- Bringing in more partners: Workday sees partnerships as integral to its growth and innovation trajectory. Workday is broadening its partner ecosystem beyond conventional implementation collaborators, embracing a spectrum of innovation partners. This expansion aims to leverage diverse expertise to develop industry-tailored solutions and enhance platform extensibility.
- AI Marketplace launch: Workday plans to launch an AI marketplace, representing a significant initiative aimed at accelerating AI-driven innovation within its ecosystem. This marketplace will serve as a platform for partners to develop and distribute AI solutions built on the Workday platform. It is positioned as a means to provide customers with access to a curated selection of tested AI products while offering revenue-sharing opportunities for partners.
The Big Quote: “The pace that customers want AI is a different one than all of us in the IT industry are talking about it."
Episode 50 | Securing the Digital Frontier
The Big Themes:
- Multi-cloud complexity & AI: The adoption of multi-cloud environments presents significant management challenges for IT teams, including complexities in configuration, monitoring, and integration. Simultaneously, there is increasing interest in harnessing AI to enhance cybersecurity, with discussions centering on automating tasks and responses for more effective threat management.
- Need for proactive cybersecurity measures: Proactive cybersecurity measures are to be preferred over reactive ones. It suggests that organizations should invest in tools and strategies that predict and prevent security threats rather than just responding to them.
- Adaptability and skill development: In the face of technological advancements and changing job requirements, adaptability and continuous skill development are crucial. You want a workforce that can adapt to new technologies and think critically about their applications in the business context.
The Big Quote: “When a company gets breached. . . somebody always wrote a memo that went 'Doesn't that look funny to you?'. . . imagine if we had a tool that kept watch that listened, that learned, that advised and maybe even got shrill. An email isn't going to go 'Hey, man, read me now.' But the right AI tool might very well be programmed to say, 'I'm going to keep texting that CIO until they listen to me.'"
Episode 39 | The Shifting Tech Landscape
The Big Themes:
- Significant M&A activities: After a quiet period last quarter, there's been a notable trend of merger and acquisition (M&A) in the HR technology space. Specifically, Bonnie outlines key acquisitions by major players like Ceridian, Workday, ServiceNow, and Cornerstone, emphasizing the strategic moves to enhance product offerings and stay competitive.
- Evaluating M&A impact: Bonnie advises customers to carefully assess the impact of M&A on their contracts, pricing, and support levels. Changes are inevitable but may vary depending on the acquiring company's integration strategy. Customers need to scrutinize initial contracts and understand potential changes in service quality and pricing structures.
- Customer success and satisfaction: The importance of customer feedback and satisfaction emerges as a key theme, with Bonnie advocating for customer-centric approaches and the use of reviews to gauge vendor performance and customer sentiment in the midst of industry transformations.
The Big Quote: “You want to be aware that when . . . a consulting party gets acquired, the culture is going to change drastically, and you want to make sure that what you had in the past —those great relationships and all of that knowledge, and partnership that was built — that isn't going to change in a new sort of model. And be aware that it very likely could."
Note: this episode contains explicit language.
Episode 33 | Entrepreneurial Insights
The Big Themes:
- A "radical experiment in self-governance": Chris shares his experience becoming a U.S. citizen and talks about the country's immense opportunities for individuals. The U.S., he says, is a beacon of democracy and freedom. He stresses the importance of recognizing and preserving its unique experiment in self-governance.
- Today's tech startups: Two innovative startups, WellCapped and DUDE Wipes, give unique answers to everyday problems. WellCapped, founded by Shante Frazier, disrupts the beauty industry with a Rent the Runway model for wigs and weaves. Meanwhile, Sean Riley's DUDE Wipes addresses the need for convenient and hygienic personal care products for men. These startups exemplify the entrepreneurial spirit.
- Lessons from history: Historical events such as the fall of the Berlin Wall and the rise of hiphop music demonstrate the impact of visionary individuals who challenge the status quo. By studying history and learning from past successes and failures, entrepreneurs can gain valuable insights to inform their own endeavors.
The Big Quote: “Here's the secret of life . . . you figure out you're different. Some people call it being self-actualized . . . can you connect your uniqueness, your difference, your .1% difference to creating value for others in a way that makes a difference?"
Telecom SaaS Evolution
The Big Themes:
- Telecom SaaS defined: Telecom SaaS refers to a set of cloud-native services delivering business outcomes. Networks are evolving from traditional connectivity-focused structures to dynamic, capability-driven ecosystems. Telecom SaaS signals a transition from conventional telecommunication models to a more agile, business-focused paradigm.
- Security concerns: Nokia and its cloud partners have taken robust measures to address security concerns. Their approach includes stringent security reviews and privacy management, ensuring multiple layers of security for Telecom Saas. Nokia also undergoes accreditations and independent analysis. These steps help instill confidence in customers regarding software security.
- Shift to OpX model: In the Telecom SaaS transition, there's a shift from a CapEx to an OpEx model. This represents a significant change for an industry traditionally dominated by hardware-centric and CapEx-driven approaches. There are potential advantages to embracing an OpEx model, like lower total cost of ownership (TCO). But Nokia also has options to capitalize, if that's what the customer needs.
The Big Quote: " . . . software-as-a-service demand is starting to move closer to the network in areas like security, the security applications . . . and then just network management. All of those types of applications have already started to move, as an extension of IT software-as-a-service, to be closer to the network and become what we've been referring to as Telecom SaaS . . . "
Episode 38 | IT Project Mastery
The Big Themes:
- Handling turnover: Partners should recognize turnover as an inherent facet of dynamic IT projects. It's important to obtain commitment, preferably in written statements within the project's scope to ensure the assigned team's stability. Such statements can offer a safeguard against abrupt team changes and provide a foundation for trust between partners and clients.
- Role of a "releader": The term "releader" is introduced. It refers to individuals inheriting a project or leadership role. They navigate pre-existing frameworks and dynamics. Successful releaders need qualities such as patience, people management skills, and the ability to problem-solve inherited issues. Author Jon Casteen introduced the concept in his book ReLeader: How to Fix What You Don't Break.
- Strategic vision: Project leaders should cast a clear vision for change and address reasons behind project scope or timeline modifications. Open communication gains team buy-in. Simultaneously, leaders are urged to avoid overly aggressive changes. They must strike a delicate balance between promptly addressing critical issues and preventing unnecessary disruptions during the ongoing project.
The Big Quote: “Typically, you have to fix the plane while the plane is in flight. And so, you want to minimize the feeling of disruption, internally, while still being clear that the vision and goals are going to be realized within time."
RaceTrac and Workday | A Unified Platform
Sponsored by Workday
The Big Themes:
Workday's impact: The adoption of Workday's unified platform, encompassing both HCM and financials, has played a pivotal role in RaceTrac's ability to streamline processes, reduce post-processing time, and enhance overall efficiency.
- Cultural shift: Implementation has not only brought technological benefits but also triggered a cultural shift within RaceTrac. Employees are now more comfortable engaging with data, seeking information, and collaborating with the accounting team, fostering a more collaborative, informed decision-making environment.
- Quick adaptability: The adaptable nature of Workday's platform allows RaceTrac to swiftly adapt to changing business needs. The company can integrate new data, work with different modules, and implement changes in as little as a month, providing a nimble response to evolving requirements.
The Big Quote: " I think that the fact that we have a single source of truth, and a digestible, understandable product ... [where] I can really understand the flow of data — where it's coming from, the nuts and bolts of it — really helps me sleep better at night."
Episode 49 | AI Realities
The Big Themes:
- SaaS and AI terminology clarification: Wayne discusses the need to distinguish between various technology terms. He points out the common misuse of terms like SaaS and AI. He cautions against the trend of "SaaS-washing" and "AI-washing," where everything is labeled one or the other to generate excitement.
- SaaS and IT consumption: SaaS has brought about a paradigm shift in how IT is consumed. Unlike traditional software releases that could lead to delays and technical debt, SaaS allows for continuous updates, which means users can benefit from new features promptly. Wayne talks about the efficiency and scalability achieved by running software in a single instance in the cloud.
- Generative artificial intelligence (GenAI) prices: Companies should prepare for potential "sticker shock" in the GenAI space. Users might be initially enticed by low prices only to face higher costs later. He advises CIOs to carefully evaluate the actual cost of GenAI queries before making investments.
The Big Quote: “Well, first of all, when you look at somebody's revenue jump, bear in mind, that doesn't mean everybody's getting long-term value out of it. It means it's hyped up, and therefore everybody's trying. So, if Microsoft is charging for their Copilot, a $20 a month fee, and everybody signed up for the $20 times 100 million users, that's a revenue bump. That does not mean that over the longterm, everybody's getting their $20 value. It means we're all excited about it — we all want to try this shiny new object."
Digital Minds
The Big Themes:
- d'Skills' mission and focus: d'Skills is addressing a significant problem in the current education system. The obsolete education model fails to prepare students for the modern workforce. d'Skills aims to bridge the gap between traditional education and the demands of the future job market, with a focus on giving "native digitals" (Gen Z) the necessary skills to thrive in the age of AI.
- The state of education: The education system focuses on preparing students for standardized tests rather than cultivating essential life skills. AI's ascent is reshaping industries, and the traditional educational model is struggling to keep up. Hannah emphasizes that schools are banning AI even as it becomes a crucial aspect of the workforce.
- Native digitals' potential and perspective: Native digitals approach work, thinking, and playing from a foundation in the digital realm, extending into the physical realm, distinguishing them from previous generations. They possess a unique outlook that, when combined with AI tools, leads to innovative solutions.
The Big Quote: "Right now, parents are investing significant amounts of money in college readiness and test prep, and yet the degrees their kids are going to get are going to be irrelevant when they graduate."
Episode 37 | Lessons from 500 Reviews
The Big Themes:
- GenAI feedback: Despite being a central 2023 technology discussion theme, GenAI did not substantially transform software implementation outcomes, as indicated by data from over 500 reviews. Bonnie says the feedback she received was more about project fundamentals, such as data quality, project plans, and teams. Looking ahead to 2024, Bonnie anticipates a greater impact from generative AI, especially in terms of efficiency and speed.
- Turnover impact: Project team turnover, both within the client organization and among consulting teams, is a significant factor influencing project satisfaction, requiring careful management to avoid negative impacts.
- Realistic expectations: Setting realistic expectations for time and cost in software implementation is crucial, with the rapid selling of implementations leading to challenges when expectations don't align with actual outcomes. Vendors must set accurate expectations for customers to allocate sufficient time and resources for change management and training.
The Big Quote: "[Make] sure that integrations are being cared for, and that there's enough thought process and a plan around integrations, not 'Oh, well, it's a standard integration,' and just assume[ing] that things are going to automatically connect with one another, because it's always a lot more complicated than you think."
Co-operators, Deloitte, and SAP: Digital Trends in Insurance Sales
Sponsored: SAP
The Big Themes:
- A pivotal shift: The insurance industry is shifting towards digitization and GenAI to enhance digital transformation and sales performance management. Experts stress a holistic approach, prioritizing interconnected ecosystems for maximum benefits from modern cloud platforms. The need to provide end-to-end experiences for customers, agents, and employees emerges as a key focus.
- Generational dynamics: Ongoing studies reveal a slower adoption of life insurance among millennials compared to preceding generations. This evolving landscape presents challenges for the industry in terms of both enticing and retaining agents.
- GenAI, a major factor: GenAI is a force within the insurance sector, influencing every facet from the front-end customer interactions to the middle and back-office operations. It can provide personalized insights that enhance both customer and agent experiences. This technology can assist in addressing persistent industry challenges.
The Big Quote: "But when you don't have that interconnected ecosystem where you're looking at it holistically and moving the whole thing in the direction forward, you're not going to get the full benefit of . . . these modern cloud platforms. You're going to just get that basic table stakes, efficiency gains, and things like that. But that end-to-end experience that you want to provide your customers, your employees, and your agents, it's not going to come together if you don't try to prioritize and manage all of these things at the same time and not lose focus on all the different areas that you're doing business in."
Episode 16 | Talent Acquisition Growth Mindset
The Big Themes:
- Shift from talent acquisition to talent attraction: Pat and Bob discuss moving from a reactive talent acquisition approach to a proactive talent attraction strategy. Rather than waiting for job openings, Pat encourages companies and recruiters to explore the market, identify top talent, and build relationships through exploratory engagements.
- Balancing diversity and talent acquisition: Diversity is important, Pat says, but a singular focus on diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) can hinder overall talent acquisition strategies. Instead, a balanced approach that considers culture fit, talent, and diversity as essential components is recommended.
- Persistence pays off: Identify high-performing individuals in competitors and proactively pursue them. Pat shares anecdotes about his persistent efforts to recruit top talent, even when faced with initial rejection. Building relationships and pursuing promising candidates over time can ultimately lead to successful hires.
The Big Quote: " . . . Focus on diversity at the bottom-up, not the top-down. If you really want to change the diversity of your company, you need to start with early talent and university recruiting."
Episode 32 | Youth, AI, and Innovation
The Big Themes:
- Emergence of new startup models: There's a new model of startups that leverage AI to create and innovate. These startups can emerge quickly, requiring less capital and fewer people compared to traditional startups. The example given is of a startup achieving in one year what used to take three years and $25 million.
- Youth empowerment with AI: Young people, "native digitals," have surprising capabilities when given the right direction, coaching, and frameworks. Chris recounts experiences that challenge traditional views on supervision and training. Young individuals, even without prior coding experience, can successfully innovate with AI in a short time.
- Opportunity for corporations and recruitment: Corporations, especially CTOs, CIOs, and startup founders, should explore creating recruitment pipelines for young people skilled in AI-enabled innovation. The potential to tap into the creativity of native digital individuals is a strategic advantage.
The Big Quote: "What I've learned in the last year, is that when you have legendary young people focused on this stuff, with the right level of encouragement ... well, anything's possible."
AI, Industries, and Customer Experience
The Big Themes
- Unified SAP strategy: SAP strategically integrates Customer Experience (CX) and Industries, leveraging its status as a big enterprise with 400,000+ global customers. Its unique approach of combining strengths offers comprehensive tools from supply chain to enterprise resource planning (ERP) for a seamless, industry-focused experience for a diverse customer base.
- Retail evolution: The retail space is evolving into a combination of multiple industries, with a focus on providing a smooth, connected experience for customers from discovery to fulfillment. Every step of the journey, there's a promise to the customer that needs to be met, which software can help fulfill.
- Business outcomes and AI: It's critical to focus on business outcomes rather than getting overly caught up in the technology itself. The goal is to deliver tangible value to customers and optimize operations. SAP's approach to AI involves solving for business outcomes first and avoiding distraction by the technology itself.
The Big Quote: “... what SAP will do this year, and in the years to come, is [to be] laser-focused on the outcome of what our customers are asking, independent of solutions. Optimizing the whole, looking at it as a connected, intelligent CX, that solves for outcomes at every step of the journey."
Episode 48 | Vendor Challenges
The Big Themes:
- Contract management: Wayne and Bob discuss contract renewals and price hikes with a focus on SaaS agreements. There's an enduring need for a proactive approach and transparent communication with vendors. Metrics, scalability, and adaptability are touched upon as ways to assess value.
- AI washing: Some companies may exaggerate or misrepresent the extent of artificial intelligence integration in their products or services in what's known as "AI washing." Wayne and Bob advocate for transparency in AI-related claims. "You can't call every product an AI product, just because it does two calculations in a row."
- Strategic vendor partnerships: Wayne suggests moving away from transactional arrangements toward cultivating trust with a select few partners. It's critical to consider the vendor's business process, integrity, and forward-thinking approach when choosing partners. He urges CIOs to invest time in building partnerships, participating in user councils, and attending events that bring customers and vendors together.
The Big Quote: "The message to the CIO is, when you sign a SaaS contract, be very careful about what happens at the end of that contract. The best time to figure out what to do at the end of the contract is at the beginning, not as you get to the end."
Episode 36 | Guarding Against IT Amnesia
The Big Themes:
- IT amnesia: Bonnie introduces the concept of IT amnesia syndrome in tech projects, where post-success, lack of documentation leads to project failures. A culture of documentation is necessary to counter challenges.
- Employee turnover: Documentation ensures knowledge continuity as team members move on post-project. Succession plans address turnover, facilitating transitions and preserving project insights. By ensuring a structured handover process, organizations can safeguard against knowledge loss and maintain continuity.
- Role of GenAI: GenAI can help with documentation since many individuals face challenges in writing. Bonnie emphasizes that while AI doesn't replace the need for accuracy checks, it significantly speeds up the documentation process. Generative AI helps people make their notes on processes grammatically correct and easily digestible documents, making documentation more efficient.
The Big Quote: "Documentation and a culture of documentation: Making sure that everybody knows that it's not good enough to check a box. You have to check the box and have the documentation to ensure that process will happen in the future as well."
Episode 31 | Current Affairs Unmasked
Note: this episode contains explicit language.
The Big Themes
- DEI and MLK: Christopher surveys the contemporary DEI landscape, expressing concerns about its focus on groupism rather than individual merit, citing instances of what he perceives as discrimination against certain groups. He draws a sharp contrast between the principles of DEI and the inclusive dream articulated by Martin Luther King, Jr.
- The Middle East: Hypocrisy within academia regarding the Middle East is highlighted, with a close look at Claudine Gay's recent appearance before Congress. The Middle East discussion serves as a microcosm reflecting broader concerns about ideological extremism, free speech, and the need for nuanced conversations.
- OpenAI Turmoil: Christopher expresses skepticism and concern about the decision-makers at OpenAI, characterizing them as "DEI elitists" with questionable values and ethics. Despite acknowledging the need for government regulation, oversight, and transparency in AI development, he opposes the notion of elitist individuals having undue influence. The board's embrace of effective altruism is tied to DEI.
The Big Quote: "Here's the prediction: In 2024, we will see what is required now, which is there will be the emergence of courageous CEOs who say, we are suspending all DEI efforts in our company. And we're going to do a review of them. And what we're going to try to re-align around is equality for all . . ."
Episode 47 | 2024 CIO Wisdom
The Big Themes:
- Multi-cloud strategies: Wayne advises against traditional server purchases, except for edge computing. He advocates for a multi-cloud approach, which aligns with the diverse landscape of software-as-a-service (SaaS) applications. He encourages CIOs to optimize cloud choices for different workloads. In the multi-cloud environment, vendors should be scrutinized based on security, data protection, and governance standards.
- AI and cybersecurity: There's a perpetual arms race in cybersecurity. Wayne believes that AI, particularly large language models, introduces a significant shift, enabling adversaries to deploy smarter attack vectors. He urges increases in cybersecurity budgets, predicting that by 2024 or 2025, defensive AI implementations could tip the balance in favor of defenders.
- Tactical vs. strategic CIO: Wayne introduces the "four Ps" methodology (prioritize, patch, polish, perfect) as a framework for CIOs to manage daily challenges while envisioning future improvements. There's a need for CIOs to balance tactical problem-solving with strategic vision. A successful CIO must navigate both aspects: be able to effectively address immediate issues as well as articulate a compelling vision for the future to stakeholders.
The Big Quote: "And so the message to CIOs is, if you're buying servers, other than for edge computing, you're investing poorly in 2024. I'm that blunt about it. My goal is never to buy another server in my life unless it's an edge application."
What's Next for Industries
The Big Themes:
- Industry convergence: Industry convergence is the reshaping of traditional value chains as well as business processes and models as different sectors integrate horizontally and vertically, creating new markets and revenue streams. SAP plays a pivotal role in industry convergence by helping businesses across 25 industries navigate and capitalize on the changing landscape.
- Integrated artificial intelligence (AI), better automation: From predictive planning in retail to enhancing safety in manufacturing, AI will help automate critical functions, improving efficiency. Automation must move beyond compression and focus on transforming processes.
- Data ecosystems: Data ecosystems take center stage. In the future, ERP will evolve into a networked system leveraging diverse data ecosystems and semantics. The emphasis is on managing these ecosystems collaboratively across industries, for seamless access and exchange of data.
The Big Quote: "The industries customers operate in define their core business. So their core business really has an industry spin. But with industry convergence now coming to the forefront,[it's] reshaping nearly every industry. It is also blurring a little bit the traditional value chains that we are used to . . . It's the integration of technologies, business processes, and also business models."
SAP's CX Transformation
The Big Themes:
- SAP's intelligent CX: SAP intelligent CX aims to move away from the traditional front-office and back-office distinctions and create a unified system that optimizes every touchpoint in the customer journey. It involves collecting and leveraging operational data, adopting a composable and hybrid strategy, emphasizing personalization, and infusing AI at every step to enhance customer interactions and loyalty.
- Holiday trends: Holiday trends reveal an uptick in average order value, while consumer behavior shows a shift from an average of nine purchases to eight this year. Shoppers are expected to streamline their holiday purchases to around four to five stores, focusing on higher-value products with a bit more emphasis on savings. Timely relevance, personalization, and smooth interactions are crucial, as consumers are quick to disengage if the shopping experience feels awkward or lacks relevance.
- Automotive and utilities: In the automotive sector, there is a significant shift from traditional dealership models to a direct-to-consumer approach, transforming cars into "stores on four wheels." Concurrently, within the utilities industry, collaborations with entities like Duke Energy exemplify the use of real-time data to gain insights into energy consumption patterns. It focuses on 24/7 availability, personalized services, and proactive communication.
The Big Quote: "I would highly recommend to any customer experience leader on the planet to really once try to pick up the phone and get something arranged. It should be the life lesson for all of them, whether you're utilities or in automotive, retail, or CPG [consumer packaged goods]."
Episode 35 | Customer Connections
The Big Themes
- Appointment hygiene: Maintain good appointment hygiene by scheduling appointments promptly, respecting allotted time, and communicating clearly. Avoid delays and make sure appointments align with the customer's expectations. Even if work goes smoothly or superbly, it can be difficult for a client to look past problems with scheduling and communication.
- Considerate conversations: While having year-end meetings with customers, show a deep understanding of the customer by personalizing conversations. Ask strategic questions to uncover client goals and achievements and avoid direct discussions about commissions or financial incentives tied to contract renewals. Finally, end meetings on a positive note.
- Utilize artificial intelligence (AI) Tools: Leverage AI tools, such as transcription services, to automatically summarize meetings and conversations. This ensures that key points are documented and can be referenced for follow-up actions.
The Big Quote: "Do your homework ahead of time, bring things to the table that [customers] didn't necessarily tell you about so you can show that, 'Hey, I care about you, because I want to do more. I come to the table with more than just what you've told me.' I think that's a really big thing. People love to hear their name."
The Big Themes
- Migration from legacy: AlloyDB is for enterprises looking to modernize their data states, particularly those transitioning from legacy databases to open-source offerings like PostgreSQL. Its role as "Postgres on steroids" addresses the challenges faced during this migration and ensures compatibility, scale, and performance.
- Generative artificial intelligence (GenAI) alignment: Andi emphasizes that successful businesses will not only focus on developing GenAI skills but also on effectively managing their data states. The combination of data and AI technologies is pivotal for delivering highly differentiated, immersive customer experiences and therefore for delivering broader business outcomes.
- Multi-Cloud Flexibility: AlloyDB's ability to operate in multi-cloud and hybrid environments, including Azure, AWS, on-premises, or at the edge, demonstrates its flexibility and acknowledgment of the reality that not all workloads will immediately move to Google Cloud.
The Big Quote: "Everyone's trying to rethink how they increase their differentiation, how they deliver better user experiences, how they can really exploit those technologies . . . The ones that are going to be successful, are not just the ones who build the AI or GenAI skill set, but [who] really have a good hold of their data state. And know how to bring those two worlds together."
The Big Themes
- Leading the Way to Cloud First: Christian discusses how SAP has become a cloud-first company. The RISE with SAP program, coupled with strategic acquisitions like Signavio, plays an important role in SAP's transformation, offering more than just a technical shift to the cloud but focusing on customer needs and business model transformation.
- AI Insights: SAP's business AI initiatives, including generative AI, will transform the way end-users interact with software, with tools like Joule and automated code generation to make every developer an AI developer. Embedding generative AI into business is a priority for customers, and SAP's position at the nexus of business and technology puts it in a unique position to serve this need.
- Strategic Partnerships: Recognizing the significance of partnerships, SAP collaborates with industry giants like Google, Microsoft, and AWS to enhance its offerings, demonstrating a shift towards a more collaborative approach for mutual benefits. Partners are an integral part of SAP's portfolio, and they are enhancing their end value by a significant amount because no one can develop everything on their own.
The Big Quote: "I can still remember 23 years back, some people I met at Morton Street in New York, right at our office. They are still colleagues, some are even friends. They are helping me still today, you know, from New York. Even as a CEO, the network is so important. You need people, to have the people on your side. Because even as a CEO, you cannot run the company alone."
CFO — From Scorekeeper to Tech-Driven Visionary
- The CFO's changing role: Technology, specifically AI, is transforming the role of the chief financial officer (CFO) from a traditional scorekeeper who deals with financial reporting and risk management, to a futurist who leads enterprise-wide transformations. It allows CFOs to shift their focus from routine, time-consuming tasks to more strategic and forward-thinking responsibilities.
- The essential contribution of human skills: Value creation is a collaborative effort between humans and technology. Skills needed included empathy, communication, and consensus-building. In a future where automation handles routine tasks, finance professionals must harness these human skills to co-create and work together.
- Value creation through intangible assets: CFOs must shift their focus from managing financial and tangible assets to managing intangible assets like human capital, intellectual capital, social and relationship capital, and natural capital. These intangible assets often account for a significant portion of a company's value. Finance professionals need to use proxies and metrics to understand and quantify their impact on business outcomes.
The Big Quote: "It's not just about automation for the sake of reducing workload, but actually to look at technology as an enabler of . . . transformational changes in your business model. How do you serve your customers in new ways? How do you transform your business model with new products?"
Episode 34 | Tech Event Insights
The Big Themes:
- Employee hiring and development trends: AI is enabling predictive candidate performance analysis, and refining job descriptions. Employee engagement and well-being are crucial in the remote and hybrid work landscape, with HR addressing concerns like burnout and mental health to retain talent. Data-driven decisions empowered by AI are enhancing HR functions.
- Financial wellness: Earned wage access is a key development in HR tech, reflecting the growing importance of employee and contract or gig worker financial wellness. This concept allows workers to access their earned wages before the traditional payday, providing them with more control over their finances and potentially reducing financial stress.
- Looking to 2024: Bonnie points out that the coming year will provide a strong dose of reality with regard to the promise of AI. The key question is whether these technologies will truly transform and enhance processes or if they will remain as mere buzzwords. She also sees the slowdown in talent acquisition.
The Big Quote: “Rather than being afraid that AI is going to replace me, the conversation I think everybody should have, no matter what your job is, is ‘How can I use AI so that I can become a superhero in my job and be that much smarter, that much more efficient, and able to make the mission-critical decisions?'”
AI's Transformative Landscape
The Big Themes
- CIO and CDO roles: When the roles of CIO and CDO are separate, each can have its own priorities. A strong collaboration between the two should be encouraged to help align these priorities and increase focus on what benefits the business, even if the timing of returns varies.
- Data-driven transformation: Transitioning to a data-driven company has been pivotal for Rubrik. By embracing data-driven insights, it's gained a deeper understanding of its business operations, identified challenges such as data quality and financial health, and empowered employees with actionable insights.
- Future of GenAI: Beyond productivity gains, GenAI holds the potential to fundamentally transform businesses by systematically eliminating hurdles and solving previously unsolvable problems. Data quality is an area that GenAI might have a significant impact on down the line.
The Big Quote: "...I talk to all the business leaders [and ask things like] 'What is it about your business that bothers you, or you wish you could improve further?' I think you start with those kinds of statements. Because then you can quickly translate that back into a series of data fragments that. . . turn into metrics, get aggregated, and then finally get enabled to help the business leader with some stories."
Episode 47 | The Impact of the GenAI Revolution
The Big Themes:
- The fast-paced nature of the GenAI Revolution: Because generative AI is being developed at a rapid pace, companies are able to accelerate their progress and pace of innovation. GenAI brings greater time to value, leading to quick adoption and impact.
- Reimagine business processes: Organizations must consider how they can harness generative AI to maintain a competitive edge. By optimizing this technology, business leaders can reimagine business processes to enable greater productivity and better outcomes.
- New expectations from customers and vendors: The capabilities coming from the GenAI Revolution are raising the expectations and experiences of customers as well as employees and vendors. As generative AI is developed to be more user-friendly, it can enhance recruitment and retention as well as open new possibilities for leveraging the technology.
The Big Quote: "I am not a fan of fear, uncertainty, and doubt causing people anxiety of 'Oh you have to act now, or you're going to go out of business' or any of that kind of nonsense. However, this is one of those moments — this is a stop, drop, and roll moment — where I think people have to say, 'This is different. I need to understand how I can harness the power of what's happening these days.'"
The Big Themes:
- CIO role change: CIOs are facing a shifting role in the age of AI. While AI technologies are automating many routine tasks and processes, CIOs are increasingly focusing on enabling business transformation, fostering a culture of innovation, and ensuring that AI is used strategically to empower employees.
- Evolution of technology: AI and technological advancements are part of the natural evolution of the business world. There’ve been similar discussions and concerns when new technologies, such as mini-computers, local area networks, and the internet, emerged in the past. AI is the latest technology that is changing how businesses operate.
- Empowering employees: AI and automation are liberating employees from routine, low-value tasks, allowing them to focus on more strategic and high-value work. This transformation in responsibilities can lead to more engaged and empowered employees as they move from mundane tasks to more meaningful work.
The Big Quote: ” . . . not just AI, but technology will eliminate more and more routine, low-thought jobs, and high muscle or high danger jobs, warehouse jobs, loading ships, jobs, construction jobs, we’ve got to accept that it’s going to change . . . how do we redeploy our human resources, our people, some of whom have been with us 20, 30, 40 years, and let that be the driver of the process, instead of being enslaved by the process?”
Challenges and Strategies in Tech Industry Ecosystems
The Big Themes
- Industry-specific applications: The tech industry is witnessing a significant shift towards industry-specific applications and the importance of ecosystems. Tech vendors are grappling with challenges in aligning their strategies with the evolving landscape, where industry expertise and partnerships play pivotal roles.
- Strategy sequence: Ashlyn outlines a four-point sequence for effective strategy implementation in the tech industry. This sequence is comprised of identifying growth drivers; crafting differentiated messages; cross-functional campaigns; and sales enablement.
- Generative AI impact: The rise of generative AI is impacting the tech industry's approach to strategies and messaging. The presence of generative AI is creating accelerators in the market, lowering barriers to entry for new ideas and campaigns. As a result, tech companies should start implementing their strategies as early as possible.
The Big Quote: "You have messaging that's so high level that it almost doesn't say anything, or it says the same thing as everyone else. There are probably hundreds of businesses pushing out messaging about accelerating digital transformation, for instance. There's got to be this middle ground in between [being] so technical, that it's only attractive to a small handful of people and doesn't break through and so high level that your eyes sort of glaze over, and it doesn't capture attention. That is where we see the industry strategies and the partner strategies really helping."
Episode 15 | Building Recruitment Trust
The Big Themes
- Contingent agency vs. other recruiting models: The differences between contingent search (fee-based recruitment paid upon successful placement) and other recruiting models, like retained agencies and social recruiting, are explored, emphasizing the value of contingency agencies in today’s job market. Contingency agencies mean less risk for the client.
- Connecting with good candidates: Todd explains he has a good team, with many senior people who get that it’s about really understanding who that candidate is and that the candidate is an individual in addition to his or her resume. The focus shouldn’t be on sending a large number of resumes along to the client, but on the quality of the candidates.
- Opportunities in a down market: In a down market with layoffs and increased talent availability, there are still critical hiring needs. Companies must focus on essential positions, and this presents opportunities for recruiters who can deliver quality candidates efficiently.
The Big Quote: “LinkedIn is a huge asset, but, because the market is so soft, and there’s so many people in the marketplace, the postings on LinkedIn are more frustration than benefit. Because of social recruiting, a lot of candidates think that they should be following LinkedIn when in actuality they shouldn’t, they should actually be engaging with people like Todd and his team.”
Episode 33 | Transparency for Customer and Partner Relationships
The Big Themes:
- Maintaining strong partner relationships: The partners ecosystem is a key component to delivering value to customers, especially within the enterprise software industry. Workday emphasizes how much partners have contributed to its growth, so it prioritizes maintaining a healthy partners ecosystem.
- Customer reviews: By actively seeking customer reviews, companies can build credibility and maintain strong customer relationships. Partners asking customers for reviews is indicative that the partner stands by their work and demonstrates transparency in their operations. Sharing the customers’ voices also indicates which partners ensure customers have an excellent experience.
- Workday’s AI approach: At Workday Rising, the company emphasized trustworthiness, its data foundation, and being human-centric as three key elements of its approach to AI. While there are many technological advancements happening, Workday still prioritizes trust and transparency to maintain its connection with its customers.
Sponsored by NetSuite
The Big Quote: “A software vendor is only as good as their partners because the customer doesn’t see any delineation in their implementation between Workday themselves and the partner that’s helping them… It’s really important for Workday and really any enterprise software vendor to make sure that their partners are doing a great job and delivering in a consistent way because, ultimately, that’s how the customer is going to rate the vendor
Episode 30 | Embracing the Future Today
Note: this episode contains explicit language.
The Big Themes
- Digital transformation reshapes industries: McDonald's has seen a significant shift in its sales, with 40% of its revenue coming from apps, delivery, or kiosk orders. This reflects the growing preference for digital ordering and the decline of in-person dining, prompting changes in restaurant layouts and services.
- AI's impact on creativity and innovation: AI is influencing various aspects of creativity, including the generation of creative content like movie scripts and even the creation of consumer products like Coca-Cola flavors. Christopher had a ChatGPT song in the style of Tom Waits and thought it did a great job.
- Technological advancements come in unexpected ways: There's a ripple effect with scientific research and exploration. Breakthroughs in one area can lead to advancements in various other fields. Researchers developed new technology, such as AI and deep-sea exploration equipment, as a result of their search for interstellar objects.
The Big Quote: "If you look back in history, America's striving for the moon and space travel . . .[what] doesn't get talked about are all of the sub-breakthroughs that it led to, many of which form the basis of our industry: miniaturization, communication. All these things lead us to the internet and ultimately impact how we think about computing and a lot of other things."
What's Next With Data
The Big Themes
- Business and IT convergence: IT and business operations are increasingly converging. CEOs and executives are recognizing the critical role of technology in achieving strategic business objectives. Juergen is seeing more and more "fusion teams" where IT and business come together.
- Generative AI impact: Generative AI is a transformative technology with significant implications across industries. Businesses are exploring how generative AI can enhance operations, decision-making, and create entirely new opportunities. Business that are still on-prem may see the advent of Gen AI as a pressing reason to move onto the cloud.
- Data management and data access: Effective data management is necessary for leveraging generative AI and other advanced technologies. SAP's Datasphere is an answer for remote data access and federation.
The Big Quote: "No customer I'm aware of is successful with the central data lake. The efforts of bringing data together in their heterogeneous application landscape are just too big. And therefore, we firmly believe that data federation will be the prevailing method of accessing data."
Road to Oracle CloudWorld | CloudWorld Preview
The Big Themes
- AI capabilities: Customers will receive over 50 artificial intelligence (AI) use cases in Oracle applications including customer experience (CX), human capital management (HCM), and finance. AI can improve business processes and decision-making. Data quality and security are important for effective AI implementation.
- Business processes flow: Technology and business processes are evolving, shifting from traditional distinctions between front office and back office to a more integrated, end-to-end approach.
- What today’s talent wants: Employees not only seek job satisfaction but also expect opportunities for personal and career growth. Oracle recognizes this and has innovated within its HCM applications to meet these expectations.
The Big Quote: “The employee base that’s coming in now . . . not only want to be happy, but their expectations as far as the company’s investment in terms of their own career growth and their own personal growth is just increasing . . . and between Oracle ME, Oracle Grow, and Celebrate within our HCM applications, while we do core HR and core payroll and core benefits, that’s where the innovation has been.”
Episode 32 | Optimize Your CloudWorld Experience
The Big Themes
- Explore new technology. Identify areas of interest and focus your attention on them. Engage with fellow attendees to learn from their experiences and gain real-world perspectives on the technologies and partners showcased at the event. Take notes efficiently to capture important insights and share them with your team promptly.
- Partner selection. CloudWorld has upwards of close to 200 partners in the expo hall. It’s a very efficient way to meet potential partners to assist you with implementation. Go to the expo hall and use simple questions while interviewing as many partners as you can.
- Practical preparation. Opt for comfortable attire and shoes suitable for long walks as Oracle CloudWorld and other large events can involve a significant amount of walking. It’s appropriate to go business casual. Make sure to have a way in which you can easily take notes. Bonnie uses her iPad.
The Big Quote: "Leave home your daily grind. It is tempting, and I'm speaking to myself here, to be checking emails throughout the event and be like, 'oh, my gosh, I just got to do this, I've got to do this, I've got to take this conference call.' This gives you the opportunity to be present. You have your out-of-office on, and people don't expect you to send emails back immediately, hopefully. Use this opportunity to really get deep, be present."
Road to Oracle CloudWorld | Cloud Giants Unite
The Big Themes
- Historic multi-cloud partnership: Oracle and Microsoft's recent meeting marks a historic collaboration in the world of cloud computing. Larry Ellison was on the Microsoft campus for the first time, appearing with Satya Nadella. This partnership signifies the culmination of years of effort in promoting multi-cloud tools, making it easier for customers to utilize both companies' services.
- Interconnected clouds: The integration between Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) and Azure allows for a more seamless experience and eliminates the barriers customers face when dealing with different vendors. Customers can now use Oracle database services just like any other Azure service, simplifying operations and preserving existing commitments.
- Looking toward CloudWorld: The Oracle and Microsoft partnership announcement couldn't have come at a better time, setting the stage for significant discussions and presentations during CloudWorld, with real-life demos and details about different regions. Attendees can also expect a focus on generative AI at the event.
The Big Quote: " . . . essentially, you're able to now use Oracle database services, just like you would any other Azure service. Whether it's a database service or a past service, the experience is no different. The great news is that you can use your Microsoft commitments, but you can also use all of your existing Oracle programs, whether it's your ULA [unlimited license agreement], your support rewards, [or] BYOL [bring your own license]."
Episode 39 |Gen AI’s Impact on Business
The Big Themes:
- The focus of technology buyers. Buyers are paying attention to Gen AI’s potential to transform a business. There are going to be increasingly more enhanced, or entirely new, roles, like prompt engineer, to help companies harness the power of new technology.
- Getting off the sidelines. Technology buyers and other executives who did not adopt technologies like the PC, internet, and mobile fast enough were left behind. Tony remembers people not understanding why they needed PCs when they had typewriters and thinks those not diving into Gen AI may be making a similar mistake.
- Turbocharged co-creation. Generative AI will enable the production of more exciting software tools and applications by creating new opportunities for collaborative platforms and leveling the playing field for contributors from varied technical backgrounds.
Sponsored by NetSuite
The Big Quote: “Gen AI has the opportunity to help us create collaborative platforms for co-creation, that will have capabilities that are just simply mindblowing. Because again, go back to, you don’t have to always be somebody who knows how to code, you don’t have to be somebody that knows how to do data analytics at a supercomputer level, right? The power of these tools will allow that.”
- Banking's move to the cloud: The banking industry is shifting from building and maintaining on-premise infrastructure to adopting cloud services to improve efficiency and agility. The shift is gradual due to the responsibility of safeguarding data and complying with stringent regulatory requirements.
- Global regulations: Navigating diverse global privacy laws and regulatory requirements remains one of the industry's biggest challenges. There are few common positions, although regional agreements are a step in the right direction. There's an example of a customer who had to talk to more than 50 different regulators while implementing an SAP suite.
- AI and machine learning: Artificial intelligence (AI) and machine learning are being applied in banking processes to improve efficiency, predict contract consumption, and provide guided buying procedures.
The Big Quote: ". . .cloud is not like the old managed services where you took your mess, and you made it someone else's problem to execute. It really does require you to understand what you have today [and] where you want to go. And you have to be prepared for that. Because otherwise, it really could be a very unpleasant deployment . . . we avoided a lot of that by being prepared and taking our time and not rushing."
Episode 31 | Keeping Customers Happy
- Today’s customer success: Customer success is not just about selling products but ensuring that customers achieve value and satisfaction from their purchases. In terms of software implementation, early stages are critical for customer success, with the first year being defining.
- Evolving sales team: Sales teams are involved longer than they have been in the past. Having the same salesperson throughout a multiyear contract is ideal. The emphasis on customer success and customer satisfaction is important for sales teams because it’s another selling point for them. Reviews and other measurements are helpful for sales teams.
- Clear communication and expectations: Misaligned expectations can lead to project failures and dissatisfaction. Clear communication between customers, partners, and vendors is necessary to avoid misunderstandings and to ensure that everyone is on the same page regarding goals, timelines, and outcomes.
The Big Quote: “Customers don’t want to be marketed to anymore. They want to hear realistic stories, they want to hear candor from clients who have gone through the experience . . . authenticity is so important.”
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Innovating Insurance
The Big Themes:
- Cloud adoption challenges and benefits: Cloud adoption has been relatively slow because insurance companies and financial institutions tend to act conservatively, but now it's picking up. A core cloud enabler has been the need to standardize and centralize systems in order to increase speed, bring down costs, and bring in more data quality and transparency.
- Generative AI integration: GenAI is the next step after the movement from on-prem to cloud is completed, although some companies have already begun integrating it. Gen AI, along with the cloud, will dramatically change insurance so that ten years from now the public might not even recognize where insurance is bought from or where it is included.
- Regulatory compliance and localized requirements: Global companies like Sun Life must make sure they meet many different countries' regulations and requirements. Regulations can go beyond countries and regions and come from different companies or governments. Regulatory compliance for insurance often necessitates data centers in specific countries.
The Big Quote: "The objective is to further simplify, standardize, in the end, the core systems, because only by doing that [will] companies . . . be able to go into a public cloud now. The end goal ... is not the private cloud. It's the public cloud, and in the public cloud, standardization is a key topic. And in the public cloud, SAP is offering [the] right services."
We’re on the Road to Oracle CloudWorld. From September 18-21 in Las Vegas, Oracle will bring together its customers and partners. Acceleration Economy’s Road to Oracle CloudWorld series will feature Oracle execs previewing what’s to come at this year’s conference. For this podcast, I spoke with Peter Jazowick, CIO, Specialized Bicycle Components, who will be a featured speaker at the event.
Road to Oracle CloudWorld | A Cloud-First Transition
The Big Themes
- Pandemic innovation opportunities: Specialized Bicycle Components experienced accelerated sales and a difficult supply chain during the pandemic. It was a chance for Oracle to be utilized as a strategic partner. The company transitioned to Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) and had a cloud-first approach as it tackled its issues. Reliability and scalability of platforms became paramount to support and enable the business.
- Technical debt focus: Technical debt was addressed in part by investing in technology and partnering with Oracle’s Customer Success Services (CSS), which led to accelerated project delivery and increased support satisfaction.
- Co-creation with business: Specialized’s global technology 2027 strategy has a focused theme on co-creation with business. Business and technology leadership will work together and co-create to have alignment and accountability across the board. Jazowick sees this as critical in order to build morale and increase delivery across the company.
The Big Quote: ” . . . subscription-based models or pay-as-you-go models, those are all opportunities that we didn’t have pre-pandemic . . . And as we . . . brought in and transformed our B2B platform with CX [customer experience] commerce with Oracle, and really drove growth with the partnership with our retailers, that allowed us to look at those other business models and [have] technology empower and accelerate those areas. “
Road to Oracle CloudWorld | IAC’s Oracle Journey
The Big Themes
- IAC’s use of Oracle Technology: IAC, a conglomerate of diverse companies, employs various Oracle products to streamline transactions, accounting, finance, and reporting, ensuring accuracy and efficiency. It historically used third-party hosting facilities but has migrated everything to Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI).
- Innovation and growth: Oracle applications provide tools for intricate revenue and lease accounting rules, negating the need for third-party systems. This approach offers better control, compliance, and cost-effectiveness and promotes innovation and growth.
- Enhancing Employee and Customer Experiences: All end users, including employees, should be considered customers. Oracle’s technology enables smoother experiences by improving backend systems. An example is given of a significant reduction in processing time for a specific report.
The Big Quote: “So, with various 606 revenue rules, with various 842 lease accounting rules, the Oracle applications allow us to expand and utilize the functionality that’s inherently available in the applications, therefore allowing us not to bolt in any third-party applications, which is hugely beneficial for multiple reasons. One being, you have one less system to manage; two, you have better compliance and controls over the data; [and] three, it’s cost-efficient, as well.”
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Episode 29 | Don't Miss the Parade
Note: this episode contains explicit language.
The Big Themes:
- Carrots and sticks: Maintaining a balance between rewards and consequences is important for society. The absence of effective deterrents, such as appropriate punishment, can lead to a decline in individual responsibility and social cohesion.
- Shift in VC investment behavior: There's a strong trend towards investing in AI-related companies. Fear of Missing Out (FOMO) has gripped the VC community, driving many to invest in AI startups to avoid being left behind. This AI frenzy can lead to both promising innovations and potential investment bubbles.
- Opportunity and awareness gap: While many acknowledge the potential of AI, a substantial number of individuals, including smart and established players, remain passive or ignorant about the ongoing technological revolution.
The Big Quote: "We're at the very front end of AI, and it reminds me of [an] old expression . . . there's three kinds of people. There's the people in the parade, and there's the people who watch the parade, and there's the people who said, 'Oh, is there a parade?' And there's a stunning number of people who don't even know there's a parade right now . . . that's where the opportunity is."
Road to Oracle CloudWorld | Shifting CX Dynamics
The Big Themes
- Attendee conference goals: A conference shouldn’t only be a product showcase. At CloudWorld, attendees can expect not only to hear about new features and products but also to network with peers and Oracle leaders and learn about what’s changing for CX practitioners.
- Generative artificial intelligence (Gen AI) and CX transformation: Gen AI is having a huge impact on the CX domain. Many customer processes benefit from large language models and innovating those into Fusion Cloud applications. Gen AI leans heavily into Fusion Cloud’s push to build truly end-to-end flows
- Rise of the subscription business model: The subscription business model is becoming the new normal, and the Fusion Applications Suite enables it in the back-office and the front-office. Salespeople must readjust their behaviors and processes to handle subscriptions effectively.
The Big Quote: “There are lots of companies that were not born in the cloud and obviously have worked for a long time with [a] . . . non-recurring revenue model, a one-time interaction between a customer and a vendor . . . That’s changing dramatically in every industry . . . customers want to subscribe to usage.”
Road to Oracle CloudWorld | Databases with Jenny Tsai-Smith
The Big Themes
- Inclusive to all customers: After last year, when some on-premises customers mistakenly thought that the conference might be geared exclusively to cloud customers, Oracle is using the name "Database World at CloudWorld" to make it clear that cloud, hybrid, and on-premises Oracle Database customers are all included.
- AI integrated into Oracle Database: Oracle has incorporated artificial intelligence (AI) and machine learning (ML) into its database offerings. The company already supports over 30 ML algorithms within the database, enabling data processing and training without moving data outside. Graph analytics and real-time graph views are among the upcoming AI-related features.
- Enhancements in Exadata and developer support: Oracle's Exadata product line, in collaboration with AMD, brings enhanced performance through increased memory, processing speed, and storage. The company is committed to supporting a variety of customer configurations, acknowledging the transition to the cloud while ensuring on-premises options. Developers are also a focus, with a developer-friendly release approach, tools to increase productivity, and discussions about features like Kubernetes support and data processing enhancements.
The Big Quote: " . . we're going back to those some roots, if you will, and looking at what are things that developers really care about? Maybe they're even suffering through. And how can we solve those kinds of problems for them?"
Episode 21 | Thriving in Change
The Big Themes:
The power of curiosity: Follow your curiosity. It may not be readily apparent how one activity will connect to another, but you might find unexpected synergy. Christian had no idea that his interest in high-tech lavender farming would actually help his consulting business, but it has deepened his knowledge of ag-tech.
Fear has multiple aspects: Fear is ever-present, but can be overcome. Fear may obviate curiosity and keep you on the known path. One aspect of fear is being worried about what other people will think, but this shouldn't dictate your behavior.
The courage to say no: To say yes to something, you have to say no to something else. Companies dislike saying no, but it's essential to have the courage to say no to what's not working.
The Big Quote: “We should embrace our curiosity, we should satisfy our curiosity, we should feel free to explore, to experience, to learn, and to understand. And that is about people. That is about ideas, that is about practices, that is about processes, that is about businesses, it's about relationships, it's about love... we should embrace our curiosity and never ever, ever... be ashamed of it or... try and squelch it."
The Big Themes:
- The current era could be compared to 1995, when there was a lot of hype around the internet. John Doerr said then that the internet was underhyped. Today, AI might be underhyped.
- In business, there are two types of people, those who are the stewards of the status quo and those who work on the exponential different. The exponential different break the status quo and create new things. Now is the time for the exponential different: an example is Larry Ellison and Oracle.
- The traditional knowledge worker is in a lot of trouble due to AI, but there are new avenues available to them. They must become creators.
The Big Quote: "If a robot can do your job, you need a new job . . . [as someone] who creates net new thinking, creates net new knowledge, who takes existing knowledge, stands on its shoulders, and bring[s] it forward."
Episode 46 | The Profile of the Modern CIO
The Big Themes:
- Co-creation and business relationships: The relationship between an IT function and a non-IT organization has to build on a foundation of co-creation; IT functions must engage with the business.
- CIOs are a part of the business: Gone are the days when the role of a CIO was to simply "support the business." The modern CIO is now part of the business and must build parallel connections across all business functions. "We engage at the bottom and we engage at the top," says Wayne.
- The mindset of the modern CIO: Wayne says he looks for two things in a CIO: ability to listen and curiosity. With the change in the tech landscape and business world, CIOs must not miss an opportunity to learn. Similarly, "if IT folks are talking about technology, versus listening for the business problems, the business opportunities, we're not getting the full value from IT."
The Big Quote: "If the CIO cannot sit on the earnings call and explain the earnings to an analyst, if they can't go on a sales call and help the sales department close the deal, if they don't know how we make our money, if they don't know how we sell, and bill, and create and deliver and support, then the modern CIO is disconnected. And that doesn't work. You've got to be in the business. And I've got to be able to serve as a proxy for any other business executive, just like I'd like them to be able to serve as my proxy."
Episode 30 | Customer Learnings on Software Implementation Projects
The Big Themes:
- Oracle: As it relates to Oracle, customers have expressed on ravenintel.com that a particular challenge was around user acceptance testing (UAT). Specifically, one customer noted to "ensure ample time is built in for UAT and assume there will be errors and fixes that need to be done." Another customer noted that "it's essential that all key stakeholders at the operations level are included."
- SAP: A top challenge shared by customers who have implemented SAP software is to "challenge assumptions, and do not rely solely on your partner or vendors solution...don't assume the partner always has the right answer." It's critical that if customers don't feel confident in the assumptions being presented by the partner, they challenge it.
- Workday: Cusotmers have expressed that relating to implementing Workday software, a seasoned project manager is mandatory. From a project perspective, it is critical to have a system integrator (SI) involved who has "earned their stripes" with this specific implementation. Additionally, the leading SI/project manager should have the correct industry expertise, too.
The Big Quote: "I think with these three softwares, the nature of them is that they offer a broad set of solutions. So we're not just looking at, you know, a single, you know, stream of implementation. Typically, these implementations are global rollouts with multiple different, you know, product functions, whether it's HCM, financials, supply chain, and things like that. So these are complex implementations that we're evaluating. They're not the, you know, 30 days up and running sort of rapid implementations that smaller software packages have. So I think there's a lot of lessons learned that we can glean from these."
- S/4HANA is a force multiplier: S/4HANA is part of the "next generation of ERP," meaning its intelligent, sustainable, and collaborative. The product is truly a "model A suite of applications," leveraging the best ERP systems have to offer. The company ensures the time-to-market for the product is quick, offers great value to users, and is an overall end-to-end product for customers.
- Industry-specific business networks: With the S/4HANA Cloud, SAP is able to go beyond helping individual companies adopt industry-specific solutions, and rather, extend these capabilities across entire industries. The notion of connectivity that is embedded in the product makes it a differentiator.
- Generative AI to enhance productivity: SAP systems are used for the most critical business decisions. When integrating artificial intelligence (AI) and generative AI into its products, SAP offers the highest level of trust, responsibility, and reliability in its outcomes.
How Oracle Brings Horizontal, Vertical Solutions to Bear for Financial Services Industry
The Big Themes:
- Shifting needs for financial services companies: Generational shifts are taking place, explains Sicilia. Traditionally, banks have "built a lot of it themselves on top of bespoke systems." As such, it can become expensive and "non-elastic" to maintain these systems. The combination of Oracle's ERP and its core banking system is something that big banks are leaning into very heavily.
- Fusing horizontal and vertical capabilities into one: In order to provide customers with the right "mix," Oracle is combining its vertical and horizontal capabilities into one for healthcare and financial services customers. "I think in every regulated industry that we operate in, you'll see a similar pattern follow, where we add vertical-specific technology that complements our vertical operating technologies into the horizontal applications as well," notes Sicilia.
- Legacy companies in the "New World": Oracle, considered a legacy company, is able to "play in the modern, New World," by bringing the best of traditional technology abilities forward along with its industry expertise. By applying cloud technologies, and a greater means of digital capabilities, Oracle is contributing a new level of intimacy between customers, partners, and businesses.
The Big Quote: "One of the ones that makes a tremendous amount of sense that we're seeing great traction, and is the combination of ERP, plus our core banking system, right? I mean, really, if you think about ERP as the center of what you do in business, no matter what the business is that how do you integrate that with a vertical application, you know, in different verticals, or different touch points, but that core general ledger, right, that core ERP, and how do you integrate with that... you know, that's where we're seeing big banks lean in very heavily. And what they like is the fact that we can bring an entire solution to the market, right? Because what happens is that integration makes most sense, right? But if you have too many providers involved, the integration ends up becoming the problem for the customer... so that's been, that's been a pretty popular topic among our large banking customers, this integration between our core banking systems, cloud systems, and fusion ERP."
- Innovation: Upwards of 70% of IT spend is dedicated to compliance, leaving only 30% of the budget for innovation. This is a tremendous drag on productivity, as organizations and business leaders want to be innovating. IBM partners with over 70 financial institutions to "put the industry muscle together."
- Global Financial Services Councils: In an effort to help mitigate the complexities associated with regulatory and compliance guidance which varies across both regions and industries, IBM has established a global Financial Services Council to help mitigate institutional risks and spread knowledge.
- The ripple effect: More room for innovation feeds back into the cycle, freeing up resources, expanding areas of business, and growing the customer base. The core framework that IBM is putting forth for financial services institutions enables users to see the "long-term value and benefit from all of this."
The Big Quote: "So it's one thing to say you're compliant. It's another thing to be able to say 'I can prove I'm compliant.' And what IBM offers in this framework is IBM can work with regulators and compliance authorities and auditors in all of the jurisdictions and demonstrate that their system offers a compliant framework. Now all I have to do is prove I didn't break the framework, and a whole lot of my audit compliance and regulatory expenses just went down. So it's a tremendous saving for me, and for lots of people within the financial services world."
VCU Health and Workday | Harnessing the Power of One
The Big Themes:
- Process improvements: In order to enable healthcare workers to perform to the highest degree of their license, VCU Health recognizes the importance of technologies that enable process improvements. By working with Workday, VCU Health is able to optimize its resources, and people, by leveraging Workday systems and technologies to the greatest degree.
- Cultural changes brought on by Workday: Change has taken place at VCU Health as a result of Workday technologies. Now, employees have access to information that enables them to do their jobs quicker, and more efficiently.
- The power of one: The interconnectedness of Workday systems and technologies allows its partners and customers to harness the "power of one." Allen explains that this notion is something that led VCU Health to Workday, in addition to thinking about the future of technology.
The Big Quote: "We never want to operate in a crisis mode where we don't need to. And so when we looked at Workday, we really appreciated the notion of it being a power of one, and it being a single system that worked together that worked. And so if we made a change in one, in the HR, it flowed through the system, and then we could manage it better. So that's really what brought us to Workday, is really being able to leverage that power of one, and really being able to think about the future of the technology. Workday is built in the cloud, that's where it was born, essentially. And so being able to leverage the technology that's already set in the technology that we use today, versus an older system using a different type of technology, we really are looking to really move the organization forward, not only with the technology, but with our culture and adopting change and really helping to be agile so that we can be better resources of our healthcare system."
Episode 45 | Infrastructure, Software, Applications
The Big Themes:
- CIO "Lego blocks": CIOs in tech are looking for vendors to provide the "building blocks" that are necessary to develop applications. When CIOs approach the board, they are not looking to describe servers and storage, but rather, systems, or applications.
- Vendors compete on the strength of their products: Wayne praises Oracle for competing with the strength of its product(s). The company is not looking to lock customers in. He says that, as a customer, it makes him feel like [Oracle] has less to hide.
- Choices are evolving for customers: Customers are now faced with selecting a cloud provider whose cloud philosophy resonates with the type of work they are trying to do. Wayne and Bob explore various cloud vendors and their differentiated offerings.
The Big Quote: "We're willing to pay for differentiated vertical software that solves our problem quicker. Companies don't mind making an investment in a quality product. What we've had to do up to now, as I say, "buy the Lego blocks and assemble our own solution." There are people who think that's great. I don't think manufacturing companies, supply chain companies, retail companies, hospitals should be in the software business. I think they should be in the business that's on the nameplate on the door. And so as a CIO, I'm encouraging vendors to give me more solutions that I can configure rather than customize, and that either fit together with other products in their app store or their infrastructure space, their partner space, or they just work out of the box from the vendor. Because then I do less integration and more solution. And that's what I think I want to do as a 21st-century CIO."
Episode 20 | Combatting Declining Productivity
The Big Themes:
- Declining rates of productivity: For five consecutive quarters, productivity rates in the United States have been steadily declining. In the most recent quarter, it was down nearly 3%. "It's very clear worker productivity is in jeopardy, or so we say as corporations."
- Work from home may be a factor: Employers are facing economic and market pressures. OpenAI CEO Sam Altman claimed that remote work styles are contributing to the lack of productivity. Is this the case?
- Culture and engagement: What creates increased levels of productivity? Christian suggest that deep engagement and investment in employees can combat declining productivity rates. Bob and Christian emphasis the importance of culture, and note the ways in which a strong culture in the workforce can drive empathy, and yield better results.
The Big Quote: "The number one thing that drives productivity is engagement. But why do we not have engagement? Now think about this... why do we not have engagement? Well, why don't we just back up a bit and say, what drives good engagement? Well, if you were to look at some of the studies out there, some of the studies would say, maybe there's three, four things, you know, that really drive engagement. One is a top-down dedicated effort to grow and develop your workforce. Hmm, that's interesting. So you, you're growing and developing, that's not paying a paycheck. That's not growing and developing, everybody that thinks you're doing that. This means developing, you are investing in time, you're investing money... but I can't do that they're already not productive enough. Oh, okay. You see when we get confused so easily? So one of the factors is invest and develop your people. Oh, here's another one. This is really weird. Teach your managers and leaders to manage and lead."
Episode 29 | Key Takeaways from Oracle Summits, Customers, Partners
The Big Themes:
- Bonnie's lens: When attending analyst events, Bonnie looks for the impact that products and related announcements have on customer experience, and how the technology or software is, or can be, implemented.
- Market demands for customers: As of late, customers are focused on hiring faster, more effectively, and controlling the cost of labor forces. "That's really top of mind for the entire industry," says Bonnie, in addition to modeling data, demand planning, and supply chain flexibility.
- Oracle's area of focus: Oracle is both an application and an infrastructure platform, which is one of its competitive strengths. Oracle demonstrates its ability to help customers unify the products it offers in the Oracle suite to engage customers more effectively than individual point solutions.
The Big Quote: "While Oracle is still very much a technology company, selling software, their delivery model is moving more toward a consumable services type, repetitive business than it is, you know, the singular software installs of the past. And we saw in some of the, you know, the new product theories and new service bundles that they're proposing in the future, you know, that sort of shift happening. So, you know, I think that that was a really interesting way to kick off the day, sort of the level set things. And, you know, the things that they said, are top of mind for their customers that they're solving for, through their product lines are things like inflation and cost of living, right, this idea of cashflow. Number two, staffing shortages and the cost of labor. That's enormous."
The Big Themes:
- Delivering solutions that create agility for the business: Aviatrix handles the compiling of security enforcement into the fabric of the network. All a customer needs to do is tell Aviatrix the policy of what they want to do, and Avaiatrix puts it into the CI/CD pipeline.
- Distributed cloud firewalls are the way: In trying to "fix" network security, distributed cloud firewalls offer a great deal of promise. Competing vendors might disagree, but customers will love it, and many already do.
- Cost savings and better security: With Aviatrix, customers don't have to decide between cost savings or better security; they reap the benefits of both. Architecturally, distributed cloud firewalls are the way, hence customers flocking to Aviatrix.
The Big Quote: "As the CEO, and the business, what do they care about? They care about agility. Why are we moving to the cloud, right? That's why we're moving to the cloud. It's not for cost savings, we all know that. Gonna be more expensive than it was on-prem. The reason we're going, is that, right? Speed to the business. How quickly can I deploy applications to my customers, because that's driving my business? This is a business-led transformation. What's great about what we're doing is it simplifies things, right...We decouple all that Bob. Our system is intelligent, we create simplicity, right? Not manage the complexity, such that you actually don't need to think about the network and how the network deploys that network security. Because we own it end-to-end, we figure out the best way to do that."
How Workday Applies AI and ML Technologies to Healthcare Industry
The Big Themes:
- Patient-centered care: Workday applies AI and ML technologies to deliver on its promise of delivering patient-centered care, by looking closely at past patient records. "Already, we have seen that AI and ML apply to help our diagnosis, to help with automation, to help guide our care recommendations, and so much more," notes Kravitz.
- Industry-specific capabilities benefiting patients and providers: Workday's industry-specific capabilities are being utilized by over 375 healthcare systems. The same notion can be applied to other industries, too. Workday releases two major system upgrades a year to its industry-specific software.
- Driving digital innovation agenda: To drive the digital innovation path forward, Workday offers a true enterprise management cloud for healthcare. "And it's the same cloud for all systems, all environments, and all industries," explains Kravitz. "But the Workday platform is built on an intelligent data core that takes security, privacy, compliance, organizational hierarchy and analytics, and business policies into account as the foundation for the dynamic platform."
The Big Quote: "The difference from Workday and other companies that have moved to the cloud, is we didn't have an application that was developed for your data center, and then migrate that to the cloud. Ours was built in 2005, and, the idea behind it was to start moving to the cloud, you know, 18 years ago, we decided we're gonna build it in the cloud. So all the intelligent data core and the frameworks were all built-in with the cloud in mind from day one. So I think that's an important factor."
The Big Themes:
- Do more with less: Finance is a highly volatile business environment where things are rapidly evolving. As a result, finance teams are challenged to work within their current processes, yet still need to respond to ongoing change. Arima proposes that a company should be aligned with its data model, data definitions, business drivers, and hierarchy structure.
- How Workday Adaptive Planning is changing the conversation: Cross-functional collaboration between Workday's finance and HR teams has enabled data and information to be shared across the entire company. Prior to migrating to Adaptive, teams were siloed as they had independent data models with independent information, creating less-productive conversations.
- How Adaptive establishes end-to-end digital processes: Arima says there are two ways this happens. First, the tool itself, which is very user-friendly. Secondly, Workday Adaptive Planning enables more users with greater access to the system, delivering actionable insights, connecting "upstream" and "downstream" processes.
The Big Quote: "I think the word continuous can sound very daunting, if you really think about it, as you're always planning. We talk about continuous planning a lot at Workday. But the intent is not to be always planning and always adjusting your models. That idea is really to be agile, and to be able to have a plan that can adjust as your business adjusts. And so that's really the spirit behind continuous planning. And it, certainly, it helps to have the tools in place like our Adaptive Planning, and the data model that's aligned to that solid foundation. All of these things really help to build that agility and your planning muscle. And so once you have that capability, it really yields benefits in terms of less manual work."
Episode 14 | Lost Your Job? Here's What to Do
The Big Themes:
- Company names and personal networks: Pat suggests that new hires create two lists: one to list companies, and one to list personal networks. This is a simple and effective way to "do your research" and will help guide your job search. "The reality is your network is going to be your biggest avenue" for finding a new job, explains Pat.
- The importance of emotional EQ: Job candidates must demonstrate their emotional intelligence, personality, and value to a potential employer to differentiate themselves. Mark explains that when new hires possess the correct EQ, hiring managers will look to place the candidate in the company. Emotional EQ has become a bigger focus than what it used to be.
- Do your homework: Do proper research on the company, come prepared to ask the right questions, and connect with a hiring manager on facts, data, and information that relates to a company. Hiring managers will respond to what you know, and how much effort you put into your application and interview.
The Big Quote: "Those of you like me that are introverts, know your facts, connect with the people on data on information on facts. Be knowledgeable about what their company is doing and what their role is, about what they personally have done. You don't have to be an extrovert, you can be an introvert, but people will resonate, will really respond to you, by you having the right knowledge, you know, to be able to ask those questions in the interview, that, to me, it doesn't matter what kind of personality you have. You've got to differentiate yourself... But people will respond to you by what you know, and frankly, how much effort you put into, before you go into the interview cycle or even before you even present your job, your resume, to the offering."
The Big Themes:
- Creating room for innovation: Financial services companies spend 60-70% of their IT budgets on compliance, leaving little room for innovation. This is a critical area that the IBM Cloud for Financial Services, a solution that is co-created and co-built with the industry, addresses.
- Real-time compliance monitoring: IBM offers real-time, constant compliance monitoring to banks and financial institutions, reducing their time to implement a solution to 6-12 weeks, which is significantly faster than what they are used to.
- Bringing a unified approach forward: IBM supports its Financial Cloud customers with control frameworks and framework mapping, creating a faster deployment and implementation approach.
The Big Quote: "I think, with our [IBM's] understanding, and what we now have built with the hybrid cloud approach and the underlying technologies, we really open up that you get the best of all worlds. 100% sure a lot of the banking workload will remain on the mainframe. But you need to have, let's say, part of the workloads most likely in platforms like IBM Cloud for Financial Services, but you still need to manage different providers. So you will always have multi-clouds in your IT shop. With what we are now building, and we've built over the last few years, we basically build a coherent strategy and platform to get the best of, let's say, the traditional mainframe workload and the future."
The Big Themes:
- Purpose-built solutions centered on people: Managing resources to deliver for customers can be a challenge for companies with large services organizations. Certinia's solutions are purpose-built, focusing on the people and the service economy business, rather than product ID, which was formerly considered to be the "center of the universe."
- Synchronous process flows: When looking at process flows, most companies find that they have silos of automation, and the "as quoted" verse "as delivered" aspects generally are not in alignment. "By having a system that runs all the way from opportunity to renewal, we [Certinia] bring those things into alignment with each other and have the "as quoted" and "as delivered" very much in sync with each other," notes Brown.
- Automation to enhance opportunity: When speaking with service economy workers, it is clear that "low-value work makes them crazy." Automating this work enables service economy workers to do more of what they love, like being in front of customers and providing "intellectual horsepower." Certinia applies automation as a means of optimizing the employee experience, too, and having a "great, enriched career journey."
The Big Quote: "We are, kind of, starting a new chapter in our company's history with the rebranding to Certinia... and everything that we've developed up to now is widely increased the aperture of who we are. If you look at it across the spectrum of all those different products, we now are a full end-to-end provider. And hence, Certinia, as our new name. And we think it probably reflects not only the company we are today, it's the company we aspire to be. And so working with the large customers and the mid-tier customers that we have, we listen very carefully to what they need to get certainty in their environment, how to manage the very large and complex services organizations, and ultimately to have success. So we think the rebranding is the next chapter of our history, we think it's a really important thing to do, because it reflects the nature of who we are. But more importantly, we see big things in our future."
The Big Themes:
- Be intentional about the use of generative AI: Christian advises that when bringing generative AI into the workforce — or any technology, for that matter — that humans must ensure they remain the "master" and the technology remains the "servant."
- Consider trust: Christian encourages everyone to "get smarter on these things" but within the context of their companies. Business employees must trust that the leaders of their organizations won't use generative AI technologies to get rid of their jobs.
- Creative destruction: Christian proposes that there is a whole lot of "creative destruction" that will take place as a result of generative AI getting smarter. "That's the trajectory we are on...we have to be conscious of it," he notes.
The Big Quote: " I think there are great challenges ahead. And I think they're fascinating challenges. And I think they're important challenges. And some are going to do well. And a lot are going to do very, very poorly. Let's hope though that for the sake of, you know, the company's colleagues, you know, all over the world, that we start looking at how we run our businesses and employ these really potent technologies in a way that actually gives our employees a fighting chance. Yes, to sort of climb the capability ladder and find their next place in this changing world."
Episode 44 | How Partners Ecosystems Drive the Acceleration Economy
The Big Themes:
- The four types of partners: Value-add re-marketer (VAR), independent software vendor (ISV), implementation support consultants, and co-creation partners. Each of these partner types multiples a businesses ability to deliver.
- How partners are changing the game: Gone are the days where partners roles are limited to just fulfillment. Now, businesses need partners through every stage of the customer lifecycle "helping build systems that touch every aspect of my business."
- How do we work better with partners?: As tools become more flexible, the way we engage with partners has dramatically changed. "It's also the business demand is changing our need to implement quickly."
The Big Quote: "In the acceleration economy, it's about getting stuff from here to there more quickly, within our four walls, and across of our entire partner ecosystem. And so a vendor, and a co-creator that knows the industry, and has the clout to have people say,' yeah, they probably know what they're doing,' encourages people to then build the connection into them. So I think that's the direction you're gonna see a lot more partnerships go, if the vendors are willing to extend themselves and think 'I'm not just in the software business, I'm in the letting customers use my software more creatively business,' and a customer of theirs steps up and says, 'my secret sauce is not so secret,' not 'I don't want to sell it to other people to help us all improve our business.'"
Episode 28 | Generative AI and the Impact on Enterprise Software Purcashing, Use, Implementation
The Big Themes:
- Extensive experimentation: Bonnie tested the impacts and effectiveness of generative AI around the area of software selection and implementation, prompting the tool to provide scenarios and advice around purchasing and implementing software, from the perspective of a customer.
- Generative AI as "revolutionary": Generative AI, and tools such as ChatGPT, are revolutionary in the fact that it can organize and synthesize mass amounts of data in a relatively quick timeframe. "Some of the things that I think these LLMs really do significantly well take a lot of random information and net it out into simple bullet points."
- The "not so good": Generative AI is not comprehensive in terms of its knowledge about customer needs, demands, buying habits, or issues. It is not directionally correct when asked to create a "roadmap" for purchasing and implementing software. Additionally, the data is trained from 2021 and prior.
The Big Quote: "AI is also not going to sell your idea internally, or your project internally, and get others on board. We know these projects are successful because of the people who run them, and the effort that gets the commitment of the organization behind it, and stakeholders behind it. AI and robots are not going to do that. So the successful projects can be aided certainly by AI, but it can't be run by them."
How Workday Adaptive Helps ENMAX with Forecasting Capabilities
The Big Themes:
- Workday Adaptive Planning helps ENMAX discover a single version of the truth: With this software, everyone in the company is working off the same data set and can be used for whatever purpose is necessary.
- A single view across three applications: ENMAX utilizes Workday Adaptive Planning, Workday HCM, and Workday Financials in congruence, which has removed constraints associated with effective planning.
- Flexible solutions that empower users: Workday Adaptive Planning can be easily edited or updated and provides users with the information they need, when they need it, to do their jobs effectively.
The Big Quote: "Adaptive, that was a real game changer for us, because nobody really questioned the data anymore. There was one source of truth, it didn't matter if you wanted to know what was going to happen next month, or in 2024. You went to the same place, the same version, and everyone edited a single version. So that was really key to us, because now we're able to take all that information disseminated out to the different business areas, and they can use it for whatever purpose they need. The second change was, we have the same characteristics on the data for both our actuals and our plan. And that's one of the benefits of being on Workday for both planning and financials. So the data that's actually reflective of historicals plus board looking looks and feels the same. And so it's a little bit easier to interpret. And so that's been very helpful for us as well."
Episode 27 | Employee Centric-Culture and the Future of the Workforce
Note: this episode contains explicit language.
The Big Themes:
- Layoffs at Salesforce: Salesforce recently cut about 10% of its entire workforce which suggests a big shift in performance culture. Business leaders are now looking for a culture that is employee-centric and produces tangible results.
- A choice for listeners to make: How do we have a legendary culture that produces massive results and is a great place to work?
- Women have gained more jobs than men for four months straight: The Wall Street Journal recently reported that women now hold 49.8% of all non-farm-related jobs. A massive amount of "prime-aged men" aged 25-54, are out of work, leading to a massive hole in the economy.
The Big Quote: "What it means is we need to have a conversation. What's the society we want to have? What's the work world we want to have? What's the work culture we want to have? And how do we create true equality of opportunity, and a meritocracy based on, you know, what the people who do well do well, because they produce results, and the people who don't, don't. And we want equality around access to opportunity based on real meritocracy. I think, I think... here's what I know, I think we need to have this discussion."
The Big Themes:
- Forget the headlines, what's in this product? Is generative AI and ChatGPT truly the "next big thing," or is this something that has been around for awhile and is just now starting to get popular? When starting college in 1970, Wayne was encouraged to study computing programming because experts were predicting that by 1975, artificial intelligence (AI) would be "writing all the programs in the world."
- The future of generative AI: Wayne suggests that this tool is going to either be the biggest augmentation of human abilities, or it's going to be the biggest disruption... or it's going to be both.
- National Cybersecurity Strategy: The government's strategy outlines the need to "rebalance responsibility." Rather than holding the company that got attacked by malicious actors accountable, the responsibility is now on the vendor to ensure that customers aren't getting "ransomwared."
The Big Quote: "That's how they [generative AI and the National Cybersecurity Strategy] tie together. We're at the beginning of AI broadening into general use. Think about the Internet of 50 years ago. That's where AI is today. A great tool that's starting to reach commercial scale. And so, again, I share your fear when the government gets involved. It often doesn't go well. But this is where we as an industry, the CISOs, the vendors, the CIOs that buy it, have got to be out there with their voices heard. I'm not so interested in anybody suing Microsoft, Oracle, SAP, Cisco and everybody else, as I am in a standard that says, in two years, the product you sell me should have the standards, or else somebody's going to sue... and cyber is becoming existential for a lot of industries, the ransomware attacks, we got to do something. And clearly, as an industry, we have not taken the leadership position."
The Big Themes:
- Top CEO priorities: To drive digital business, top CEOs are focusing on acquiring and retaining talent, and leveraging and deploying emerging technologies such as AI and ML. Regardless of the company, all businesses must be "tech-enabled" now.
- New business models: The new (and multiple) business models of today are geared to adapt to meet customers where they are. Companies are shifting to subscription-based models and consumption-based models.
- Access to AI and ML data: Many strong point solutions that use AI and ML are out there, but companies cannot access the data from these tools. On the "HR side," Workday has access to the data from over 16 million records.
The Big Quote: "Well, I think our customers are deploying AI and ML, pretty aggressively. You know, as I mentioned, in their core business up front, and now they're turning to HR and financials. ChatGPT is a really powerful technology, it's gotta be used the right way. There's wrong ways to use it. And what I worry about a little bit is that traditional AI and ML... the analytics that you can do with traditional AI and ML are still really, really valuable. And what I see from customers is high uptake in that area. They want products powered by AI and ML. So Skills Cloud would be a great instance of that, where we enable jobs to be broken down into skills and put it in a canonical format, normalized across all of our customers, and then we can help our customers do matching in terms of people they want to hire against the skills they're looking for. So that's all AI and ML-driven."
The Big Themes:
- What it takes to be great: companies must strongly consider incorporating DEI initiatives into their businesses but must be careful not to let the focus on talent and culture fall by the wayside.
- Go back to the "foundational" piece: The "big initiative" of today's companies should be addressing exactly what the priorities are.
- Attract talent, but know how to retain it: A strong focus on acquiring talent, and a lack of thought about retaining talent, had created a "gap that has really widened in the last few years."
The Big Quote: "What I'm hearing and what I'm seeing in the market today is that DEiI is the only focus. Now, I'm not saying that across the board, I'm just saying generalities. There are great companies that have been corrupted into a single focus over the last couple of years... but it's one of three priorities. It needs to be one of three priorities. It can't be the only priority. And I think what I'm hearing from a lot of my friends in the big companies...they overhired to meet these DEI agendas. And now, they're laying off some of these people that they hired because they didn't focus on the other two priorities: culture and talent. You have to have all three to make, you know, to make a great hire."
Episode 28 | Supply Chains: The "Orchestrator" of Today's Business
The Big Themes:
- Why AWS entered the supply chain space: The company has the knowledge and expertise to solve critical issues for businesses today. AWS is "putting its competency to work for its customers."
- Customers want to create their own roadmap: AWS Supply Chain is not a "rip and replace solution." The product leverages the already-existing solutions customers are using to further inform decision-making.
- A supply chain is the "orchestrator" of today's business: AWS Supply Chain is industry-agnostic and is a "backbone" to the various solutions already being utilized by customers.
The Big Quote: "Everybody needs to have a good orchestrator, a good supply chain, that can really help this business to be successful. So we're not building this application focused in any specific industry, but we're making the solution, the backbone of the solution, very strong to serve all these different industries. So customers can leverage our investments and in our cloud-native architecture, so they can leverage this technology in different industries like I mentioned before. So, the exciting thing is that since our preview launch, we've been able to have those discussions across multiple industries."
The Big Themes:
- Fixing human error: The biggest cybersecurity vulnerability companies have is their people, and there's no software tool or system that is more powerful than cultivating an awareness of secure practices among employees.
- Setting the right example: Business leaders must practice what they preach. No more leaving laptops open to email inboxes on our desks. Demonstrate the company's mindset by taking data security seriously and preach it to the whole team.
- How to lead externally: Christian talks about the dangers of "convergence for the sake of convergence," where manufacturers are creating digital products without being thoughtful about the cybersecurity implications of, for example, a poorly designed app for an oven.
The Big Quote: "Unless you start building a culture around the proper treatment of information—who can access it under what circumstances, etc.—and then put real consequences associated with violating the proper handling and use of it, you're never going to really address the weakest link in security."
Want more leadership inspiration from Christian? Connect with him on LinkedIn.
The Big Themes:
- The automation of knowledge work: This has been happening for a while now—just think of the hours of labor eliminated by search engines—but generative AI takes this automation to a different, higher level.
- ChatGPT is overhyped: The panic over AI tools replacing journalists, teachers, and all human workers is overblown, Tony says. Businesses should be focused on augmenting the work done by people with new technologies.
- ChatGPT is underhyped: "Technological change always precedes cultural change," Tony says, and there are likely to be massive cultural shifts following widespread access to and use of generative AI tools.
The Big Quote: "Oftentimes, we look at these emerging technologies, and we see dollar signs. We think, Oh, my gosh, we're gonna automate this over here, which means we don't have to do that over there... And then we learn over time that these are augmented technologies that are actually accelerating what human beings can do. I would say to senior level executives: train and prepare a workforce to uplevel problem solving and creativity and innovation."
Looking for more insights to transform your business? Connect with Tony on LinkedIn or through his AE Analyst page.
Episode 26 | AI and the Rise of the Intellectual Capitalist
Note: this episode contains explicit language.
The Big Themes:
- Knowledge workers are no longer at the top of the pyramid: Careers like lawyer, doctor, and engineer have long been highly valuable and widely esteemed, but by making tons of knowledge readily accessible and mostly free, tools like ChatGPT are going to push knowledge workers down in the career pyramid.
- The rise of the intellectual capitalist: The creation of "net-new knowledge" (intellectual capital, or IC) is going to define the highly valuable and esteemed careers of tomorrow.
- ChatGPT and other AI tools should be embraced: Yes, there will be jobs lost and people who use these tools for nefarious reasons, but as a society we must embrace the possibilities and opportunities they present. For example, these tools should not be banned in schools, but instead used to spark conversation and creativity.
The Big Quote: "If you've ever created anything new of value for yourself and or your company, in your work, whether you realize it or not, you're an intellectual capitalist... And the big aha now is to take that from the back of your mind to the front of your mind. Ask yourself, what IC have I created already? How am I being super thoughtful about leveraging my IC to make a difference, to create value for others, and for myself?"
Want more from Christopher Lochhead? Connect with him on LinkedIn and explore his podcasts, blog, and books.
The Big Themes:
- Apex's culture of curiosity: While the CFO's domain is traditionally finance, JJ explains that at Apex, he is focused on business forecasting, not just financial. Workday Adaptive Planning was the perfect tool for the inclusive and cooperative culture at Apex.
- Effective planning keeps Apex ahead of disruption: The ability to create scenarios that incorporate many shareholders' voices has kept Apex strong and solvent during major challenges like the pandemic and the war in Ukraine.
- Investing in high-growth tech attracts talent: JJ contrasts the boring "plug and chug" culture he has seen in other finance departments with the dynamic environment at Apex, noting that investments in tech like Workday Adaptive is a draw for talent.
The Big Quote: "We're proud of that. When we go to the market, recruiting people, we're talking about, number-one best place to work in Fort Worth, number-six in Texas... And part of that is, we've invested in the tech, right? We've invested in Workday."
Want to learn more about Workday Adaptive Planning? Watch a demo and explore use cases here.
This episode is sponsored by Workday.
The Big Themes:
- Don't ignore the threat of ChatGPT: Even as a company with incredibly advanced AI capabilities, Google is doing the right thing by treating this kind of new interactive AI chatbot as a challenger to its massive search business.
- Be open to the possibilities of ChatGPT: On the other hand, Microsoft is very wisely looking to bring ChatGPT into the fold and enhance its existing products and services using artificial intelligence.
- The importance of transparency and trust: Christian brings up the potentially sinister side of interactive AI, specifically deep-fake videos that could be used to spread disinformation and sow discord. Business leaders must focus on building trust into the application of technologies like ChatGPT.
The Big Quote: "Gotta free the mind, if you will.... If you had an organization that had free thinkers, you could find very, very easily what ChatGPT or a similar capability could mean to financial services. The implications are significant."
Want more leadership inspiration from Christian? Connect with him on LinkedIn.
The Big Themes:
- The WFH challenge for young talent: creating a personal network and building personal credibility are incredibly important early in a career, and Pat worries that young people are not getting the networking and mentorship opportunities that working shoulder-to-shoulder offers.
- Work ethic in today's world: Pat defines work ethic not as being the first-in, last-out team member, but rather the cultivation of a reputation among bosses and peers as someone who always gets the job done and gets it done right.
- Responsibility and accountability: the only person who is responsible for the success of your career is you. Some companies and bosses are terrible, but there are still lessons to be learned and experience to be had. Make the most of every job.
The Big Quote: "It takes a full time job to find a good job. It takes a full career to manage and navigate the right career. You're gonna make mistakes... Learn how to actually build a career, a work ethic, and be able then to navigate how you want to manage your career."
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Want additional insights to help you win the war for talent? Connect with Pat on LinkedIn.
The Big Themes:
- Similarities between Madoff and SBF: Both men "wrapped themselves" in celebrity, fancy parties, and politics. They were able to pull off the deception they created by being good "talkers" and schmoozers.
- Differences between Madoff and SBF: Where Madoff admitted his wrongdoing virtually immediately, SBF has been spinning a story of incompetence rather than crime. Christopher makes connections between this behavior to SBF's identity as a Native Digital.
- Is the end of FTX also the end of crypto? Christopher says no way. This type of scandal will probably help to move regulation of crypto in the right direction, and the market will calm down eventually. Native Digitals don't believe in "analog money," and the promise of crypto remains.
The Big Quote: "What we have here is a classic situation where when something's new, when something is generally not well understood, and when something's generally not regulated, you're going to end up here. So I think at the end of the day, the crypto world will be stronger for this because we'll get some of the regulation that we have that makes some of these things hard, although Madoff proved you can get away with bad shit in the legacy world very easily... But I think it's a mistake to say this is the end of crypto."
Want more from Christopher Lochhead? Connect with him on LinkedIn and explore his podcasts, blog, and books.
The Big Themes:
- What inspired Alloy? Less than a decade ago, Clay says, companies were trying and failing to build their own private clouds, because the technology just wasn't there yet. But Oracle believes it now has the tech to meet this desire among customers.
- What kinds of customers are interested? Clay points to organizations that deal with a lot of regulation as the prime audience for Alloy—they're interested in cloud but it has never worked for them before. This includes governments and companies in industries like financial services, healthcare, and telecomm.
- Is this the future of cloud? Oracle does not believe the future of cloud is to consolidate power among a few vendors, Clay says. Alloy is intended to infuse flexibility into how cloud technology can work for customers, putting much more control in their hands.
The Big Quote: "Cloud infrastructure has been around for at least 15, maybe 16, 17 years. We're only 30% market penetration. It's not because people haven't heard of it yet... What they need is they need better solutions that actually solve their problems."
Want to learn more about OCI and Oracle Alloy? Connect with Clay on LinkedIn.
The Big Themes:
- Consistency: Companies that ask employees to give up the benefits of remote work and come back to the office must also require executives to do the same. Otherwise, trust disappears and team members disengage.
- Clarity, candor, transparency: Explaining the specific benefits of returning to in-person work is essential. Saying that productivity will go up is not enough—leaders must provide examples, and help employees understand how their experience will improve.
- Culture and environment: The key to a successful move away from all-remote work is to create an office environment that people want to be part of. Starting at the very top, companies must cultivate a positive and enriching in-person culture.
The Big Quote: "The reason why leadership is so hard is because every day, every day as a leader, your job is to show up for everybody but yourself. That's extraordinarily hard... If you are not prepared to very literally show up for everyone else, then you might want to think twice about bringing the workforce back into the office."
Want more leadership inspiration from Christian? Connect with him on LinkedIn.
The Big Themes:
- What's really going on with layoffs? Among the six companies Wayne pulled numbers for, five of them actually have had net-positive employee growth over the last several years. But they are letting people go, and Wayne explains why.
- Should non-tech companies hire big-tech engineers? There is a big opportunity here, Wayne says, but execs at non-tech companies have to be very, very careful and thoughtful when preparing to bring these folks onboard.
- What's the best way to have job security today? As an advisor to three very different groups of job seekers, Wayne has honed his most important advice: Learn new things. Always be curious. And don't turn down opportunities to learn and do things.
The Big Quote: "This may be the opportunity to shake the tree, to shake the company up and say, What if we had a continuous integration, continuous delivery tool chain? What if we were using more modern tools? ... What are we trying to accomplish culturally? And how can this availability of very cutting-edge talent, who might be disciplined differently, fit into our culture?"
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The Big Themes:
- Customer stories at Cloud World 2022: Bonnie praises Oracle for including the voice of the customer in many of the keynote talks at the conference, including Oracle Me HCM customers McDonald's, Marriott, and the Church of Latter Day Saints.
- Six key takeaways: These three customers talked about their implementation experiences with Oracle HCM technology, and Bonnie wrote up six important insights that other companies considering HR tech upgrades should keep in mind.
- Fundamentals must come first: Before pursuing HR and HCM software implementation, business leaders must have a strong grasp of processes, personas, and the employee lifecycle and overall experience.
The Big Quote: "Role clarity is important... All three organizations felt like it's very important to understand how the team is going to be in the future, in the cloud, because the team infrastructure and what they are responsible to do in a cloud environment is very different than with legacy systems."
More from Bonnie Tinder: Connect with Bonnie on LinkedIn or send a message via her Acceleration Economy Analyst page.
The Big Themes:
- This is about adaptation, not ageism: Native digitals are not better or worse than native analogs, but they are actually a new category of human being. That may sound like an exaggeration, but it's not.
- Businesses at risk of obsolescence: Leaders who do not account for the differences of native digitals are going to face (1) the failure to hire and retain anybody under 35 and (2) the inability to market and sell to anybody under 35.
- The Mentor Myth: Chris says that the secret to native analogs thriving in our native digital world is understanding that the older generations have as much to learn from the younger ones as vice versa. Read more in "The Mentor Myth" ebook.
The Big Quote: "We are the last native analogues to walk Planet Earth. period. Human beings have embedded technology into the core experience of life. And that will be true forever going forward."
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The Big Themes:
- Advice for early talent: Pat says that high schoolers and their parents should at least consider options other than college, like trade schools and apprenticeships. He recommends reading "The Millionaire Next Door" to get inspired.
- Advice for college graduates: First, differentiate yourself during the interview process by doing research. Second, once you're hired, find "your assets" within the company, because you can't just assume you'll have advocates.
- Advice for people taking job interviews: Don't be afraid to ask tough questions about a company's financial status and solvency, given the economic climate we're in today. This is one step in making sure you end up at the right place.
The Big Quote: "A lot of early talent is making a huge mistake in their career by actually moving from one job to another from one company to another after 12 months, because the next company offers them something worth more money. My advice is, don't. That's a mistake."
Want additional insights to help you win the war for talent? Connect with Pat on LinkedIn.
The Big Themes:
- An issue of legacy: Related to the concept of "legacy" tech companies, huge companies are often held back by what Christian calls "the mindset legacy," that narrowly defines what the business does and how it does it, with no room for evolution.
- The importance of culture: Christian says that a company's culture can't just be part of its overall strategy, an intellectual and emotionally agile culture needs to be the core strategy itself.
- Walking the walk when it comes to people: The only thing worse than working at a company that doesn't want to invest in people is working at one that doesn't want to invest, but claims publicly that people are its most important asset.
The Big Quote: "You're never ever, ever going to build a high-performance team by having anything other than a radical candor and an ability to understand and accept criticisms, especially when they're well deserved."
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The Big Themes:
- Data modernization: Wayne says that a "modern data strategy" completely changes a company's ability to compete, by helping C-suite executives make better decisions and avoid very expensive mistakes.
- Wayne's 5 rules of data modernization: Collect more data and do it earlier, clean and validate the data, store it securely but accessibly, make it widely available, and provide employees with powerful analytics capabilities.
- Oracle CloudWorld 2022: Wayne observes that of the 1,200 sessions at Oracle's big global conference last week, the biggest topic was not databases, but cloud infrastructure, illustrating how Oracle has dramatically evolved its positioning to keep up with customers.
The Big Quote: "[Data modernization] is not about how you buy it and who you buy it from and how you glue it together. This is a business imperative. And it's cultural, besides technological."
Want more of the CIO and CTO perspective?
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The Big Themes:
- The Task Force Tribute journey: In September, the group arrived in Washington, D.C., having traveled 8,500 miles in 23 days, with dozens of stops to connect with veterans and family members, including many Gold Star families.
- TFT is collecting stories for a virtual memorial: Next up for the group is to help create an unprecedented, high-tech virtual memorial composed of the hundreds of stories shared by military members and their families. To contribute a story, please visit the TFT website.
- The impact of sharing stories: Christian says that a common thread emerged in many of his conversations during the journey, which is the deep need among these service members and their families to talk about their experiences and their loved ones.
- Addressing mental health challenges as a community: The VA and other government agencies are not doing enough to support the mental health needs of members of the military, and Christian says that there's a great need for everyone around servicemen and women to step up themselves to help.
The Big Quotes:
- "This model that we're in in our country, where our media, you know, 'you have to enrage to engage,' right? And it's driven by business models. It's driven by self interest. But that doesn't mean that it's driven by reality. And, folks, it's incumbent upon all of us to not get lazy and be cynical because cynicism is lazy. If you think something isn't right, productively, proactively, and constructively try and fix it."
- "If you do know a military member, actually, please don't thank them for their service—actually say, 'hey, you know, if you ever ever need someone to talk to, you can talk to me. And if you think I don't understand, you're probably right. But I'm willing to try. I'm willing to try.' And that, folks, could save a life. And it could save a life of an American that really risked their all for us."
More about Task Force Tribute:
Learn the backstory, make a donation, and get involved via their website. You can also get to know the non-profit group behind TFT, Project RELO.
The Big Themes:
- Employee experience and Skills Academies: The concept of employee experience has been buzzy for many years, but the focus is shifting from perks to career advancement, reskilling, and equitable pay.
- Tech as an enabler for change, not a leader of change: Transforming businesses, business models, and employee experiences should be driven by process and change management, with tech playing a supporting role.
- Big fish want to swim in small HR ponds: Leading HR vendors like Oracle, Workday, and SAP are starting to evolve their offerings to appeal to mid-market customers, in addition to their traditional huge enterprise clients.
The Big Quote: "Customers were giving a lot of grace to vendors for getting through, making do, being really creative, helping them out of really challenging situations... That was 2021. The year of grace is over."
Connect with Bonnie on LinkedIn or send a message via her Acceleration Economy Analyst page.
The Big Themes:
- The need for speed: scaling a business is more difficult than ever, because the rapid pace of change across industries requires leaders to make big decisions more quickly than ever before—and still get the decisions right.
- The primacy of customers: Tony channels Walter White of Breaking Bad, and says that today, customers are "the ones who knock," meaning they're dictating the terms of deals and services to vendors, not the other way around.
- The upside of friction: Generally, friction is seen as an impediment to scale, but Tony says that some forms of friction are good, in that they remind leaders to take a breath, look around, and be sure things are working well.
The Big Quote: "In a funny way, it's such an obvious observation of 'oh, okay, the customer is in control.' ... It is truly profound, Bob, and I think if I was to point to one thing that can help in the scale on the seller side for technology companies—if I can point to one thing that could hold some of those companies back—it's a lack of understanding of that profound shift."
Looking for more insights to transform your business? Connect with Tony on LinkedIn or through his AE Analyst page.
The Big Themes:
- Balancing partnerships and full-service: Mike says that Oracle is thrilled to work with partners to fill "last-mile solutions" and regulatory-specific needs, but also that Oracle is looking to fill vertical edge cases with its own solutions.
- HCM in healthcare shows Oracle's differentiation: The gig economy is impacting hospitals and other care settings, so Oracle is stepping up with a suite of tools including HCM and more to help business leaders in a holistic way.
- The cloud shifts conversations to velocity over function: Thanks to the cloud, Oracle can help customers stay on the bleeding edge of technology through regular releases and updates, delivering greater speed to customers' businesses.
The Big Quote: "The ability to speak in the language of the business—because you're delivering the technology that our customers are using to engage with their customers—is a core differentiator."
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The Big Themes:
- Customer demand for multi-cloud: Oracle has been focused recently on partnerships with Microsoft and Amazon that allow mutual customers to pick and choose the cloud services they get from each vendor, and Jae says that big-name brands are very hot on this idea.
- Cloud @ Customer offers even more flexibility: For customers in highly regulated industries or that prefer more control and security, Oracle's Cloud @ Customer offering provides all the benefits of a fully managed cloud region in an on-premise environment.
- What customers can expect at CloudWorld: Jae says that if customers can come to the event with a clear understanding of their business goals and desired outcomes, they'll find a plethora of information about how Oracle's cloud solutions can help achieve them.
The Big Quote: "These are more multi-cloud-type solutions that are making it simpler and advantageous for our customers to use. We have a lot of customers who are excited about it—AT&T, Marriott, and Veritas to name a few—who have really voiced their interest and excitement about what this can do for them... getting that flexibility and optionality so they can get the best cost, best performance for their cloud business."
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The Big Themes:
- Tech's "cancel first" policy: From Amazon to Twitter and beyond, tech platforms seem to be far too quick to remove accounts, content, and products without asking any questions about the rule that's allegedly been broken.
- Brands are abandoning customer service: Trying to reach a human to discuss a customer question is nearly impossible these days. Christopher points to Southwest as a remarkable exception to this rule, and encourages companies to get humans involved again.
- The limitations of AI- and ML-driven regulation: Bots don't get sarcasm yet, and users across many platforms are dealing with account suspensions for posts that do not actually break any rules.
The Big Quote: "We have asked these major platforms for their free speech policy... They send a link, you read the link. And here's what you discover when you read the link: the word free, the word speech, or the two together don't appear in the document."
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The Big Themes:
- The "fourth phase" of Match Group's business: Following the launch of Match.com in the 90's and the breakaway of Tinder in the 2010's, a new phase is coming that's heavily focused on video, AI, augmented reality, language translation, and more.
- Eliminating manual work and "cycles of death": Trey shares some of the struggles his team had before installing Workday Financials, and the impact that those challenges had on employee morale.
- Helping the accounting teams demonstrate value: Generally, accounting is a cost center, but Trey says that the implementation of game-changing software like Workday is an important way to highlight his department's value to the larger business.
The Big Quote: "We believe that adding technology and adding the right people can provide that value, so [employees] get to spend more time with their families. So we've more or less revolutionized where we were, to provide that better value."
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The Big Themes:
- Enhancing the developer experience: This is a major focus for Oracle, and many CloudWorld sessions will focus on work that's been done to help developers use Oracle DBs, including Autonomous Database.
- Oracle Exadata: Along with database and cloud, Juan says that Exadata is one of three core initiatives for the event.
- Oracle Database 23c release: CloudWorld will feature the very first preview and discussion of Oracle's next major DB release, called 23c.
The Big Quote: "We're also talking about what we're doing for distributed apps, like micro-services and events. We're building a lot of this technology directly into the Oracle database to make it dramatically simpler. We'll be talking about things we're doing with documents and document databases—that's going to be a really big deal."
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The Big Themes:
- Fusion Analytics showcases what makes Oracle Cloud unique: T.K. argues that Oracle stands out among the competition as the only full-stack enterprise cloud vendor, since Oracle is both a cloud platform and application provider.
- The next wave of analytics transformation: Following the self-service and the SaaS revolutions in analytics, now the industry is moving exploring AI and machine learning and natural language. T.K. will be talking about this in his CloudWorld keynote.
- Multi-cloud and customer choice: Granting flexibility to customers has been a major theme within Oracle recently, and T.K. says that Oracle Analytics has a strong multi-cloud perspective and can work with data regardless of where it lives.
The Big Quote: "The world has changed dramatically, as you know, but Oracle's been executing relentlessly on its cloud strategy. And we're seeing tremendous success in the market. My team has been busy building the next generation analytics platform, and integrating it with all our cloud applications."
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The Big Themes:
- Looking beyond the walls of IT: As the CIO and VP of IT, Samantha obviously fills a specialized role at Smith, but she says that her "team" is everyone at the college, and that achieving the IT department's goals requires input from many other departments.
- Continuous iteration as a North Star: Samantha shares a favorite quote of hers, which comes from the center for teaching and learning on campus but that she applies to IT: "There are many ways to teach well, and all teaching is improvable."
- Prioritizing user experience with Workday: Students today have high expectations for digital experiences, and many academic platforms do not meet those expectations. Samantha talks about how Workday's UX tools are helping her deliver for Smith students.
The Big Quote: "I think I and my team are seen as partners in a much stronger way. Partnership isn't just delivering utilities. Partnership is being in conversations, it's bringing people together. It's calibrating, is this a big problem or a small problem? Will this solve something that's been bothering us for three years? So I think that has helped me be positioned as a strategic partner."
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The Big Themes:
- The biggest enterprise tech M&A in history: The planned $61-billion acquisition of VMWare by Broadcom has implications for Goya Foods, says CIO Suvajit Basu, and many other large global firms, because of VMWare's omnipresence in data centers.
- The cybersecurity side of the deal: When a company that powers data centers is taken over, questions must be raised about access to the data centers and the data within them. The "risk profile" of VMWare is raised by this acquisition.
- The responsibility of CXOs in these situations: The Broadcom-VMWare deal has generated a lot of FUD: Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt. Whether these feelings are valid and have merit or are unfounded and distracting, is a question that CXOs must focus on answering, ASAP.
The Big Quote: "The importance of VMWare permeates to every industry. I'm in food and beverage. Healthcare is running VM. Wall Street finance is running VM. Military is running VM. There is no single industry that I can think of that is not running VMWare today. And that is the cyber threat. We're talking about a heightened level of risk."
Want to hear more from Suvajit? Connect with him on LinkedIn and catch highlights from his talk at Cloud Wars Expo 2022.
The Big Themes:
- Investing in vertical solutions: Oracle's deep engagement in healthcare through the acquisition of Cerner has provided a strategic framework for how the company will invest and expand into other industries, including with new HCM solutions.
- New platforms and tools: Chris previews the award-winning employee-experience platform Oracle ME, the evolved Oracle Recruiting Cloud, and new offerings that power upskilling and reskilling demands.
- CHRO priorities in 2022 and beyond: Based on his many conversations with HR executives, Chris outlines what is top of mind for CHROs, including creating inclusive workforces, internal mobility, and more.
The Big Quote: "We're going deep in healthcare, obviously, with the Cerner acquisition... In HCM, we're making investments around scheduling, optimization, skills, making sure we can hire and support and schedule nurses at the right time, the right shift, the right bed, all of those things, but we're taking that strategy across multiple industries."
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The Big Themes:
- Cloud technology supercharges startups: New companies must focus on scalability, by bringing on new customers, building new features, hitting new markets, and more. The cloud is a game-changing tool in how it helps CXOs scale up and scale down as needed for certain things.
- The "aha" moment: Each panelist shared stories about how and when they realized that the idea behind their company had legs and could truly address an unmet need or longstanding challenge for customers.
- The benefits of being a startup amid established competitors: Startups face unique challenges, but can also be more nimble and flexible than large enterprises. The panelists speak about how they've leveraged the startup mentality to connect with customers and grow their businesses.
The Big Quote: "First is to understand my role as the CEO. I am the chief everything officer." - Min Chen, Wisy
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The Big Themes:
- Summit NA: Community Summit North America, the largest independent gathering of the Microsoft business applications ecosystem, is taking place October 10 through 13th in Orlando, Florida, featuring 500+ sessions and 300+ speakers.
- How to compare cloud vendors: They have different revenue streams, distinct customer bases, and come in a wide range of sizes, but cloud vendors can best be understood in three dimensions, Wayne says: their layers, their origins, and their coverage.
- Advice for the cloud buyer: Know what you're buying. Know when you're buying it. Know why you're buying it. And take full advantage of what you bought.
The Big Quote: "Remember, digital transformation is driven by technology in two ways: what I can do with my technology, or what somebody else can do with their technology against me. That's what drives the digital transformation. And the cloud products are perfect for that."
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The Big Themes:
- "The moment of truth" in retail execution: Wisy is not focused on inventory management issues, but rather on helping brands and retailers optimize the display and pricing of products through AI-powered computer vision analysis and predictive analytics.
- Reaching a tipping point: Tech solutions that leverage AI for retail execution have existed for a while, but have been overly clunky and thus under-utilized. The Wisy platform, by contrast, is optimized for use by human beings in all sorts of environments.
- Offline analysis: Wisy just announced a major breakthrough—users will now be able to get instant results and analytics, even if they don't have an internet connection or their cloud has gone down. This will save time and lots of money in terms of processing.
The Big Quote: "We don't think AI is going to replace humans. On the contrary, we still need humans for a lot of things. But we want humans to be more productive and do what is more rewarding... We see this as a transformation of a whole industry with a new set of tools."
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The Big Themes:
- Big announcements at recent flagship event in Amsterdam: Toni and Mitch talk about the new "vertical product strategy" SAP Fioneer unveiled at its Financial Services Forum, including three new platforms for banking and insurance customers.
- Trends in the larger insurance industry: At their recent mega-event, the SAP and SAP Fioneer teams gained a ton of insight into what is top-of-mind for banking and insurance customers in this time of massive change.
- What's next: With recent technological advances—including the cloud, AI, IoT, 5G, and more—insurance is moving towards a focus on the individual, a shift that has the potential to dramatically change how consumers engage with insurers' products.
The Big Quote: "We announced our platform strategy from an SAP Fioneer perspective... Over time, what you're going to see is specific vertical solutions deployed within each one of these three different platforms from us." - Mitch Bouchard
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The Big Themes:
- Speaking the Same Language: Decision-makers accelerate change by embracing industry and vertical cloud with vendors who can understand the transformation of their industries to co-create to grow the business.
- Buyer Motivations Are Shifting: Vendors need to understand the expectations of today's companies to fulfill promises to ensure they can deliver on the benefits to customers.
- Features and Function, Not Pricing: Not a new concept. However, decision-makers in the marketplace are experiencing a level of change behind technology-driven features for their P&L.
The Big Quote: "…I do think if there's a shift in…who actually sits around that, that boardroom table, I think there's a substantial shift there today, and an exciting one actually for a lot of companies, as long as they can adapt to it."
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The Big Themes:
- Events evolved: As attendees adapt to hybrid shows, understanding what changed enables people to leverage both in-person and online benefits of industry shows.
- Get creative, opt for flexibility: Hospitality resources may be short-staffed, travel could be affected, or speakers might not be able to attend in person. Event organizers can help vendors increase visibility by going online, conference speakers into the event, and holding virtual meetings.
- Do your homework to lay the proper groundwork: Outline plans on which vendors to see, sessions to attend, and how to divide and conquer with other colleagues attending. Have you thought of social media to amplify your presence as a leader?
- Bring it home and take it forward: Vendors look at the opportunity to connect with customers in high-quality conversation and seek feedback to achieve solutions and understand experiences while engaging with business leaders.
The Big Quote: “It’s those pure insights that are equally as important to watching and making sure that feature function during a software demo is what you need…certainly the vendor relationship is important, but the experience of your peers is going to speak volumes about if that is real.“
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The Big Themes:
- Three priorities for hiring: Pat says that the best hires (1) are able to do the job well, (2) help diversify the organization in terms of background, ethnicity, etc., and (3) are a good fit culturally for the company and the role.
- Recruiting today is too passive and too focused on ops: To find the right person for the role you need to fill, companies need to embrace active recruitment done by a talent attraction leader.
- The most successful companies combine recruiting ops with talent attraction: Hard data about candidates is important to help HR managers make their assessments, but you also need a talent attraction leader who understands soft skills, culture, and other factors like that in order to find the best possible hire.
The Big Quote: "You've got a brilliant sales leader focused on customers, customer success, big-deal strategy, how to develop account executives, how to attract them... If you take that person out and put in their sales ops person, that's the same analogy as what's happened to recruiting to talent acquisition leadership over the last several years."
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The Big Themes:
- A new POV on recent Microsoft announcements: Wayne talks us through his understanding of some key points made by CEO Satya Nadella and CFO Amy Hood on the company's latest earnings call, and how CIOs and CTOs should interpret them.
- Microsoft's full-stack offering is key competitive advantage: Purportedly lowering costs for customers is part of how MSFT is working to stay ahead of AWS and others, and the gamut of services they offer is essential to their efforts.
- The win-win-win of embracing WFH: It's time for boards to accept that WFH is here to stay—sustainability is important for the world and our future, ESG is good for corporate perception, and employee satisfaction is critical to both businesses and workforces.
The Big Quote: " When you talk about lowering the customer's bill, I don't think [Satya Nadella] is trying to lower the dollar spent with Microsoft. He's trying to raise the value of what you get. If I spent $1 and got a server, what did I get? If I spent $1 and got a place to run a modern, secure application that's automatically on my phone, what did I just get for that dollar? Yeah, I think Microsoft is saying I'm gonna give you a lot more for your money, because of our unique approach."
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The Big Themes:
- Some background on SAP Fioneer: Falk and Mitch explain how the partnership came to be and offer details about how the two organizations work together while maintaining independence.
- What makes SAP Fioneer unique in the market: by building the backbone for "the end-to-end business process," SAP Fioneer is more than a point solution or even a vendor, it sees itself as a partner to customers.
- Looking to the future of financial services: Falk and Mitch each share what they expect to be the next big trends and transitions in FinServ, from making a cashless economy more accessible and equitable to AI to the metaverse.
The Big Quote: "It will be more and more important that these systems integrate with each other, speak the same language. This is where you get the economies of scale. This is where you standardize, automate and harmonize your landscape. And if you're able to do that, you will be good for your customers. And what's good for your customers is actually then good for your business, as you can imagine." - Falk Rieker
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The Big Themes:
- Introducing Task Force Tribute (TFT): Inspired by a group of military veterans in Chicago who walked 13 miles to honor 13 service members who died during the withdrawal from Afghanistan, TFT comprises a small group of people who are traveling 7,054 miles together, to all corners of the country, one mile for every service member lost during the Global War on Terror.
- Creating a virtual memorial to those we've lost: During the cross-country trip, TFT will be raising awareness around its intent to collaborate with leading tech companies in the U.S. to build what Christian calls "the first highly inclusive and encompassing virtual war memorial."
- How listeners can get involved: Christian suggests three actions to take. First, just spend some time learning about the effort and following the journey. Second, make a donation of $70.54, or any amount, to help support the trip and the memorial. Finally, anyone who is a military member or family of a military member, reach out to the TFT team to share your stories.
The Big Quote: "So many people don't want to talk about this kind of stuff, because they don't want to talk about themselves. We want to make it clear that this is an opportunity for our military members to talk about the other great women and men that they served with, and the great examples that they saw, and candidly, and provide a ground truth, if you will, to the history that they were all part of making."
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The Big Themes:
- Project success depends on preparation: About half of enterprise software and digital transformation initiatives fail, and Raven Intelligence data points to the fact that many companies simply don't have their ducks in a row before getting started.
- Inside the Readiness Tool: Bonnie explains that the tool is both free and easy to use. Anyone on the project team can complete it by answering 14 questions about stakeholder support, team leadership and roles, change management, and planning and prep.
- The benefits of assessing readiness: The tool will provide a score, one through 100, that will help companies gauge where they are on the spectrum in terms of readiness. It's essentially a litmus test for, should we start this project now?
The Big Quote: "You'd be surprised how many customers go through the motions—they select a software, they select the partner, and they truly aren't ready internally to start the project. And lo and behold, they choose a great software, they choose a great partner, and it still fails."
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The Big Themes:
- The buyer-seller relationship has changed: Customers are claiming more power than ever before, and Jonathan says that companies need to earn the title of "strategic partner," not just throw it around.
- Telco is transforming around 5G: While recent years have left many telcos in turmoil, the advent of 5G technology is getting the industry its "mojo" back, according to Jonathan.
- Banks are moving to the cloud: Recent geopolitical upheaval has raised a ton of questions for the banking industry, but at the same time, Jonathan says banks are ready for a "generational leap" in technology.
The Big Quote: "I think that's quite fundamental, because that focus on enabling our customers through technology and through partnerships, is key to trust between us. And trust is the foundation of our relationships with our customers."
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The Big Themes:
- The embrace of vertical approaches is bigger than go-to-market: companies are looking to software not just to address functional problems, but to solve business challenges and transform business models
- Massive internal reorganizations are coming: in addition to new and surprising partnerships like Microsoft and Oracle on multi-cloud, Tony expects both customer and vendors to deeply evolve their structures and operations
- Merger of supply and demand chains is a key example: Professor Luyi Yang in his fireside chat at Cloud Wars Expo talked about "demand distortion events," and the need to knock down silos to better serve today's customers.
The Big Quote: "Oftentimes, market transitions are sort of so obvious, they're happening before your very eyes, and then you wake up and you go, 'Oh, I should have paid attention to this.'"
The Big Themes:
- What CXOs need to know about hybrid cloud: Wayne walks us through a number different, equally valid hybrid cloud models and explains key security implications when moving to hybrid cloud
- Look out for "fake cloud" models: CXOs need to be on guard against terms like "virtualization" and "hyper-converged," tactics that might make sense for their company but which are definitely not cloud
- The pros and cons of becoming a software creator: amid all the talk about co-creation models between cloud vendors and customers, Wayne offers some critical advice based on his past experience working on both sides
The Big Quote: "If you get something listed in the Microsoft Store, or the Oracle store, or the Google Store, or the IBM store, and it is a solution for a problem others have and your software is good, your scalability of that product is almost infinite."
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The Big Themes:
- Great software alone isn't enough: For success in a digital transformation project, choosing the right partner to help implement software is just as important as choosing the right software itself.
- Partner-project fit: The most important factor to consider in picking an implementation partner is project fit, and making sure that the team members assigned to work with you are well versed in the software, in your industry, etc.
- Why being a "preferred partner" matters: Bonnie estimates that the top 25% of software vendors get around 80% of the opportunities and projects.
The Big Quote: "To the extent that you can tell them something they did not know... or you have a level of expertise or intelligence that competitively they could take advantage of, if you can be that person to them, that trusted advisor, that's really key."
The Big Themes:
- Innovation inspired by disruption: From early 2020 today, the world looks completely different. Boards of directors and other leaders are responding by interrogating the way they've always done things and looking for new, more agile systems.
- RISE gives customers a team behind them: One of the biggest things SAP has heard is that customers love that the RISE program makes clear what everyone on the team's responsibilities are, including SAP, its hyperscaler partners, and the customers themselves.
- Finding differentiation thru technology: Brian says that every company needs to be a tech company, and to lean on the cloud to help them reimagine and differentiate their business to stand out from competitors.
The Big Quote: "What we want to allow customers to do is focus on the build, focus on the innovation, focus on the things that are going to really differentiate themselves from the competition, as opposed to focusing on the run."
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The Big Themes:
- Retail supply chains and OODA loops: Fighter pilots are trained to Observe, Orient, Decide, and Act when engaged in fast-moving environments. Retail business leaders should adopt the OODA approach for supply chain planning.
- Sustainability is key to supply & demand chains: We should not be looking at sustainability in a vacuum, but rather as integral to the efficient production of goods.
- Invest in connecting IT and OT: Let's talk less about carbon-neutral data centers and more about optimizing physical processes, which improves quality, saves money, and lowers emissions. (NB: keep an eye on strong cybersecurity!)
The Big Quote: "If I've observed and oriented and have the tools to decide, then in a supply chain environment, I can act. I can take the shot and I can win the engagement. And that's what companies have to be thinking about in the modern supply chain."
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The Big Themes:
- Differentiate in the market: Reflect on business operations. Make decisive moves and decisions, and act in an agile fashion for the future.
- Supply chain transparency is essential to stay ahead of the curve: Integrated processes from the quotation down to cash management to facilitate those processes are crucial. Companies need to be able to explain the delay and provide alternative solutions to deliver quality outcomes to customers.
- Sustainability and getting to a circular economy: Embed sustainability throughout the processes and data models natively. Infrastructure complemented with additional applications, like the sustainability control tower, brings all of the ESG KPIs together to measure the progress, product footprint management, and carbon footprint into an auditable session.
- The foundation of success for the future: Bring together vertical and horizontal integration to how companies solve problems and establish industry networks to optimize supply chain and for sustainability purposes.
The Big Quote: "The new normal is about constant crisis management. That’s the reality we need to face, and you need to be prepared. That’s the reason why an agile enterprise architecture is essential – software is a key ingredient to succeed."
Connect with Thomas on more ways to drive sustainable supply change in the digital revolution.
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The Big Themes:
- The Yext promise: Josh describes the platform as a place for "ingesting data, structuring it, and then delivering it as in the form of answers everywhere that it's needed."
- Keeping public data in sync: Yext customers want to help their consumers easily find information like hours of operation, product availability, and more, wherever they're searching. Yext helps structure that data, then automatically syncs it across various websites.
- Working across multiple clouds: Part of the reason that Yext and Redis work so well together is that both can operate in multiple clouds. Redis serves as a back-end system for Yext anywhere it has a point of presence.
The Big Quote: "As a SaaS platform, we're continually evolving. If a new place appears where consumers are looking for data, we will build an integration with them. If a new use case comes up, we will be able to satisfy it. And we're always adding new features."
This episode is sponsored by Redis.
The Big Themes:
- The stats, yet with so little scrutiny: Machine, also referred to as bot-related ad revenue, was $81 billion in 2022 with projections to increase to 100 billion in 2023.
- Machine or bot accounts inflate financials: If Twitter or Facebook decided to take down all of the fake accounts, they would have to restate their earnings.
- Dealing with a completely different mindset: Companies and executives realize they will be judged by their ability to harness technology to transform their businesses.
- Thought of the day: We are now hitting an inflection point based on the unbelievable power of cloud infrastructure, applications and tools and the agility that it gives these companies. What is technology enabling us to do to dazzle the customers and make more money?
The Big Quote: "I think the part that analysts are probably missing that links directly to the market is, I think you need to go upstream as an analyst and understand how companies are deploying modern technology today, as a part of your analysis of their financial performance."
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The Big Themes:
- Three tips for the precarious present: As the coronavirus continues to evolve and spread, Wayne says that business leaders need to be realistic about people returning to work (or not) and think creatively about how best to move forward.
- The CXO Lounge at Cloud Wars Expo: Wayne previews this unique feature of next month's conference, a dedicated space for conversations, debates, and jam sessions between and among C-level execs and Acceleration Economy Analysts.
- Looking beyond a potential recession: This year, the tech industry is going to invest $20 or $30 billion just in innovation. So while it's good to think about a downturn in spending, leaders need to have courage to make key investments now.
The Big Quote: "Have the courage to invest in technology. Invest in your manufacturing, your supply chain, your fulfillment, your customer during a slowdown... There's going to be opportunities at the end of that that we can't even envision today. Be ready to seize them. And the cloud gives you that opportunity."
This episode is sponsored by BMC Software.
The Big Themes:
- Balancing conflicting responsibilities: Christian's first story takes place during an operation by the Marine Corps when he was a young platoon commander.
- Reflecting and preparing for big life changes: The second lesson Christian learned came to him after he left active duty, and was struggling with the loss of community and camaraderie.
- Staying vulnerable and open to input: Lastly, Christian recounts a period in his business career when he got himself trapped in tunnel-vision on a project—and the results were quite bad.
The Big Quote: "I don't always want people to hold my hands. When I make a mistake, sometimes I want somebody to go, you made a mistake. There's something really powerful about direct and even near-immediate feedback, when delivered with good intent, with the purpose of correcting something that maybe needed to be corrected."
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The Big Themes:
- ERP as a Service: In the past, business transformations and ERP transformations took years to complete. Today, customers need to get up and running on new platforms much more quickly—so Infosys developed an ERP as a Service offering, a bundle that simplifies and accelerates the process.
- Industry cloud solutions: Part of how Infosys guides clients through business transformation is through industry-specific "templates" that help customers envision what their new processes will look like.
- Clients save 30 to 40% on TCO: Infosys helps its customers get up and running on S/4 HANA cloud more quickly, but also at a reduced cost thanks to increased efficiencies.
The Big Quote: "We are very thrilled to take the partner-managed cloud approach for RISE with SAP. We're seeing a lot of successes and clients are loving it. Clients are saying that the whole adoption of S/4 HANA cloud is simplified even more with Infosys ERP as a service."
This episode is sponsored by Infosys.
The Big Themes:
- The trap of vanity metrics: certain statistics you hear all the time, like "we have 96% customer satisfaction," are not telling the full story. These metrics are easy to come by and make us feel good, but in the end they do not really help us.
- Metrics that actually matter: in a digital transformation, the stats that you need are those that tie back to business objectives. This means revenue improvements, cost reductions, and working capital improvements.
- Trust but verify: Raven Intelligence can help with choosing a vendor or partner by helping you verify the metrics you're hearing from salespeople. It's important to confirm the source of the stat, and its relevance to your business and goals.
The Big Quote: "You hear a statistic like 'on-time delivery.' But how is that defined? Because if on-time delivery is 96%, and it's based on a date that's moved eight times... Well, it's easy to have an on-time delivery for a moving target. And so in those types of cases, when you hear numbers like that, you always want to sort of peel back the onion."
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The Big Themes:
- Massive changes to cloud marketplaces: Amazon and Google Cloud are transforming the ways that companies buy software through their cloud MPs, and DoiT is helping customers respond to those changes
- Growth requires agility: the standard locked-in discounts of the past aren't working for software companies anymore, so DoiT is taking on the lock-ins with cloud partners and delivering flexible, growth-oriented benefits to ISV customers
- Trusting customers to know what they need: DoiT’s ISV Program and products like FlexSave, GTM Funds, and Agency selections, reflect its belief in trusting customers to know best what they need
The Big Quote: "It's this fundamental shift from the old way of thinking, which was 'if I spend a million dollars, will you give me 5% off?' And this new way of thinking is, 'because I'm spending a million dollars with you, how can you help me grow?'"
This episode is brought to you by DoiT.
The Big Themes:
- The "cradle to grave" approach: Pat and Pam worked together for many years to develop creative, advanced programs for talent acquisition and retention. One of their initiatives was to increase the collaboration between talent acquisition and talent management teams.
- Planning a culture vs. letting one happen: Companies should be in the driver's seat when it comes to HR and company culture. This requires focused, pointed culture development.
- Assessments and candidate data: The information gathered about candidates through formal assessments or otherwise should be shared throughout the organization to help develop their training and path.
The Big Quote: "I think a lot of organizations think of assessments as being punitive, but in fact, the data is so rich and can really help you think about somebody's career plan, somebody's career growth opportunities, and help to align that with somebody's own aspirations." - Pam Seplow
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The Big Themes:
- Netflix's disruptive start: Tony had an "inside baseball view" of the early disruptions Netflix made to the entertainment industry in the early 2000s, and he reminds us of just how innovative the company was
- A myopic focus on customers matters more than ever: when companies start to "over manage the equity markets" and fail to put the customer at the center of everything they do, that's when things go south
- Let's talk about business growth at Cloud Wars Expo: join us in San Francisco June 28-29-30 to explore critical questions about how to unlock, manage, and accelerate growth in today's world.
The Big Quote: "Somehow, one of the world's most valuable and and most scalable companies ever created lost touch with customer sentiment and customer needs. And I think that's the real story here."
Episode 20
The Big Themes:
- Change management and change agility are often overlooked: Raven Intelligence research shows that customers' most frequent regret after completing digital transformation projects is that they didn't dedicate enough time and resources to change management processes.
- The Six Es of Operationalizing Change: From a presentation by Josh Bersin, these six steps are absolutely essential to change management, Bonnie says.
- Change agility: With how fast technology evolves, change management is always an ongoing project, so companies need to commit to cultivating a culture within their organization that is change-agile.
The Big Quote: "It's not just an idea, it's something that you need to budget for during a digital transformation. It's sort of a box that you need to sort of put around all of these things. And I will tell you, it's not a cheap box."
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The Big Themes:
- How silos impede product innovation: Ray describes "a chasm" that has traditionally existed between product teams and their counterparts working in sales and marketing. Given that every person in those departments has a hand in bringing a product to market, closing that gap is necessary to make better products, and make them faster.
- Industry-specific solutions are the future: Customers' expectations are higher than ever before, and they expect their vendors to understand their specific needs, pain points, and goals. As such, companies like Propel need subject-matter experts to help design software and solutions tailored to customers' industries.
- The tailwinds driving growth for Propel: The way businesses work is changing rapidly and in countless ways. As leaders rethink their business and revenue models, internal structures, and more, Propel is the perfect partner to help them design a "whole office" solution for product development.
The Big Quote: "It used to be that we as product people and product managers thought, 'We understand what the customer needs. We're gonna design it. If we build it, they will come.' It was kind of a Field of Dreams mindset of how products were designed and launched. But it's not the case today, because people have way too many choices."
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The Big Themes:
- How Ulta grew 40% amid Covid-19 disruptions: Omar talks about the company's innovation department and the remarkable 4-week turnaround it achieved for introducing curbside pickup at all physical locations.
- Merging the physical and digital: Ulta aims to dazzle customers with a seamless experience, no matter where they're shopping. Omar describes what that would look like from the customer's perspective and what Ulta's doing in terms of increasing personalization.
- The power of data and Redis: In addition to making Ulta's backend systems faster and more efficient, Redis has helped simplify the entire process of upgrading Ulta's technology platform.
The Big Quote: "What we don't want to do is just put something out there because Omar wanted it, but millions of customers don't even care about it. So data is key. Data helps us make the right decisions, data helps us to make the right investment. With data we can be sure that we're actually delivering what our customers are looking for."
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The Big Themes:
- An update on the sale of Thomas to Xometry: Tony describes how the two companies are fitting together and creating a new kind of on-demand manufacturing marketplace.
- What's the true ROI of technology these days? Following the acquisition, Tony's been on a bit of a listening tour, having lots of conversations with other business leaders, and a theme that's emerged is uncertainty around the real impact that new technology can have on a business. Tony has some important ideas about this.
- The role of CXOs in tech implementation: It's essential that business leaders work to demystify new technology for employees, and help their teams understand how they fit into the new structure and processes it creates.
The Big Quote: "Technology is about growth. Yes, you might create something more efficient. But if that increased efficiency doesn't allow you to reallocate resources and push growth, then frankly, I don't know that your shareholders are going to be dazzled."
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The Big Themes:
- Data-first modernization: the return of the Chief Data Officer in many organizations goes hand-in-hand with an increasing effort to streamline data landscapes and eliminate technical debt.
- Opportunity at the edge: compute power at the edge has strengthened, allowing companies to push real-time analytics out of the edge with a relatively small footprint and transforming how businesses think about it.
- Industrialized data supply chains: like at a car plant, Matt says that end-to-end automation is needed in data supply chains, which means lots of new software and tools and lots of new skills training.
The Big Quote: "The early adopters have figured out that cloud is not a cost savings, it's an agility and velocity engine, right? It's profit centers. It's the ability to address our customers in new and different ways."
This episode is sponsored by Hewlett Packard Enterprise.
The Big Themes:
- Modernizing without compromise: every customer is going to have vastly different needs and different use cases, but HPE is adamant about meeting the specific requirements of each one.
- Putting the platform next to the data: giving customers the ability to access their data in its native form helps them avoid running through hoops in terms of compliance, governance, operations, and more.
- What's next for HPE GreenLake: look for more in the realms of protected infrastructure, data set management, and exploring what it looks like to separate database administrator roles, the classic IT roles, from the data operation roles.
The Big Quote: "HP GreenLake's fundamental problem proposition is to bring in what you've been buying before... and then have our GreenLake managed services organization take care of it for you, so that you don't have to worry about it anymore. And it scales up and down based on your needs."
The Big Themes:
• President Zelensky of Ukraine's heroic example: Leaders are force multipliers for the people that they lead, and to do that, they have to communicate, compel, and inspire. Zelensky is doing all of those things, while refusing to flee his country in the midst of war. It's inspiring.
• The sacrifices of leadership: Being a leader is an exhausting occupation. Because you are constantly having to put other considerations before you yourself. True leaders are always last in line, and that is difficult.
• We deserve better leaders in the U.S.: From both a business and political perspective, Christian says that the United States is really lacking in true leadership. "The great resignation" is as much about leadership as it is about anything else.
The Big Quote: "Yes, companies need to make money in a profit in order to continue, but that profitability does not need to supersede the demand the leader should have on them to ensure the longevity of the organization and the care and feeding of the people that work there."
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The Big Themes:
• The new Future CXO and Board channel from Acceleration Economy: Wayne is helping to lead a new content stream, and his tagline is "two minutes of tech talk for top executives." See more here - https://accelerationeconomy.com/future-office-of-the-cxo/
• Technical debt and what CXOs need to know: there are 3 main danger areas when it comes to technical debt and cybersecurity, and Wayne explains each of those and why non-technical CXOs need to understand them.
• "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" is wrong: in tech, being proactive is the only way to stay ahead. Ignoring problems you can't see in front of you is going to cause massive problems, so CXOs must invest now.
The Big Quote: "The acceleration economy is accelerating, whether you are or not. And that's the message I want to give to the CEO, to the CFO, to the CMO, to the board executive: you've got to understand what this stuff can do for you, or do to you."
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The Big Themes:
- Embracing opportunities created through change: The pandemic obviously disrupted how Sarah and her team collaborated with each other and with other parts of the business. Sarah says that it gave the finance team opportunities to think differently and learn new skills.
- The new role of a modern finance leader: rather than always responding to events, end-of-quarter requests, emails, etc. Sarah says that she is looking to unearth insights and action items in a proactive way, to help make the whole business better.
- AI's impact on planning and budgets: KAH has more than 40,000 associates and lots of physical locations, so using AI to analyze large amounts of data from lots of different sources in Adaptive Insights has been a game-changer.
The Big Quote: "There's not a one size fits all approach. And you really need to have a discussion with your entire team to understand what works for them, what motivates them—and really, you know, how can you help me be productive during these uncertain times?"
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The Big Themes:
- Acceleration as key to digital transformation: Ajay says acceleration is about getting rid of constraints, hurdles, and manual processes within the business.
- Data democratization is nuanced: before pursuing "democratization," companies must make sure they're generating the proper transactional data, that it's readily available for people to consume, and that there's a shared language.
- The modern CIO role: it's about so much more than technology. The new CIO has to drive strategic thinking, by being joined at the hip with the business.
The Big Quote: Workday Adaptive Insights "is how we stay proactive, right? This is how we are able to weather these marketplace storms, and the roller coaster ups and downs, and just make sure that we continue to stay ahead."
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The Big Themes:
• Oracle runs its end-to-end business on Oracle Cloud, which Doug says enables them to deliver improved experiences to customers and its own employees.
• The key outcome of the shift to a services-based business: As a cloud provider, Oracle’s culture has become one where everyone is expected to ask, ‘how can I help?’
• Doug is focused on removing friction points between the customer and achieving business value. For example, today, about 90% of Oracle’s customer contracts are executed through a fully-automated system, giving customers quicker access to its cloud services and a path to faster business outcomes.
Doug says it’s critical to have a “Relentless focus on continuously evaluating how you’re doing.” He emphasizes that transformation is never finished, and Oracle’s own cloud journey has given its people unique insight into customers’ challenges that they can use to help other companies achieve the same.
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The Big Themes:
- The lessons of the pandemic response - Stacy says she and her colleagues discovered that WSU as an institution could be much more nimble and fast-moving than they might have thought before
- Change management when moving to the cloud - Workday's systems revolutionized the employee experience at WSU, which involved some challenges but mostly major benefits
- Evolution in the CFO role and in higher ed in general - a need for flexibility and the breaking down of silos are key themes prompting change in both areas
The Big Quote: "Everything's going to involve money. It's all going to involve technology, high-level decisions about impacts, the need for data analysis and all of that... I think it's a welcomed change that those silos will be broken down, not just for the CFO, but for other leaders at the campuses."
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The Big Themes:
• The Web3 breakthrough: basically anything that is built on the blockchain is considered Web3, and Chris believes that it represents a bit of a return to idealism in tech.
• Data is under hyped: it might sound crazy, but Chris says that the vast potential of data is still expanding and being discovered.
• Native Digitals vs. Native Analogs: the fact that people under 35 grew up with technology represents perhaps the largest change in the definition of what it means to be human, ever.
The Big Quote: "I don't know why this isn't being reported widely—in 2021 venture investors invested 15 billion into Web3 / blockchain."
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The Big Themes:
• What is talent intelligence? The application of data relating to people, skills, jobs, functions, competitors, geographies, to drive business decisions.
• What are the core data sets used for TI? The bread and butter data sets are demand, supply, and cost.
• Beyond the job title: TI can be used to source candidates based on skillsets that a company is looking for, not just specific titles.
The Big Quote: "If you ask any CEO, what's their biggest asset? It's their people. What's their biggest risk for the future? It's access to the right people."
This episode is sponsored by BMC Software.
The Big Themes:
- CFOs looking beyond financial data - interconnected parts of the business like HR are equally important to understanding performance
- Data access is a game-changer for quick decision-making - the disruptions caused by Covid-19 forced WestMed to make huge calls about the business without delay
- Taking your time when setting up cloud-based systems - Anthony explains why he was so hands-on and methodical when implementing Workday systems
The Big Quote: "Workday was really the first big investment into a cloud-based offering that we had. It was definitely new to us, there was a lot of things we needed to understand about it. But once you're operating on it, you wonder why we hadn't done this sooner."
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The Big Themes:
• Three tenets of data: (1) data volumes keep growing in size and complexity, (2) business leaders are always looking for new ways to extract value from data, and (3) it's all about data security and governance.
• John's predictions fall into two buckets: (1) the competitive landscape, and (2) the technology innovation and architecture
• Overall, customers are becoming a top priority when it comes to data, both in terms of understanding customers thru data and empowering customers thru new data-driven capabilities
The Big Quote: "The immovable objects are meeting irresistible forces, and by immovable objects, I mean, the incumbents, and by irresistible forces, I mean, the startups."
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The Big Themes:
• The power of relationships: The deal between Thomas and Xometry probably wouldn’t have happened without a trusting relationship.
• Helping small and medium-sized companies grow: Xometry developed a way for smaller manufacturers to be able to take on bigger projects and grow their businesses.
• Digital transformation inevitably leads to business model transformation: For business leaders it's an important time to find ways to look at your business differently.
The Big Quotes:
• “We announced yesterday that Thomas has been acquired by Xometry, an on-demand manufacturing marketplace.”
• “The exciting union of these two companies will help accelerate the digital transformation of manufacturing.”
• “If you embrace the idea that you could do things differently, or do things that you didn't before, I find that that pace of change is less frightening.”
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The Big Themes:
• Vendors did a great job: But played to type.
• Work From Home/Work From Anywhere culture: Omicron delaying return to the office again. Employment market and stock market point at even more.
• Workplace culture evolves: The ‘Screen-ish generation’ (Millennials) doesn’t see f2f as the ideal. The ‘Screen Generation’ (GenZ) lives on screens/games/async comm.
• Reminiscent of RPA market: Start with workflow, BPM, doc management. Add scripting and interfaces and templates. Voila! Huge multiples.
The Big Quotes:
“I want my electricity to come from a socket in the wall. And so it's changing the way we operate.”
“We'll all have a Hollywood Squares box like you and I are in.”
“Why are we making office workers – who are in theory the force multipliers of the company, the analysts, the managers, the thinkers, the changers.”
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The Big Themes:
• Good scope = good outcome. And the opposite is almost always true!
• Massive personnel turnover. Services firms and their clients need to find new ways to minimize disruptions caused by job changes.
• A very clear timeline: Those simple sort of project hygiene type of things really make a big difference in the success of the project.
• Software vendors have their own issues: Partners and customers are changing rapidly, and those changes are not limited to personnel.
The Big Quotes:
“They felt like it made their job 10 times more difficult because of the lack of travel they enjoy as part of being a consultant.”
“It was actually a refreshing experience especially with little face-to-face interaction due to the pandemic.”
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The Big Themes:
• Well-represented by this flag: We hope other countries have organizations that feel that way about their flags.
• Someone's putting on space helmet: They're talking about the paradigm shift from big conventional wars and theaters.
• A winning mindset: There is a standard of behavior that says we are going to act this way, and we are going to behave within structure within this mindset.
• Not about the money: There's lots of job opportunities – and going to go where they can be the most happy.
The Big Quotes:
“They're going to stop working there. They're going to somewhere else.”
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The Big Themes:
• The ability to tailor applications: A top CFO concern is tax management, and must be addressed on an end-to-end basis.
• The right foundation: It's been a big change from when we relied on it to give us reports and manage the data model.
• Transforming and enriching data: How a single, unified data model can turn operational data into accounting entries posted into the general ledger.
• CEOs are demanding cloud-based ERP: An end-to-end solution breaks down silos, accelerates insights, and drives better and faster decisions.
The Big Quotes:
“It's really an exciting time right now to be in finance.”
“For us adding or changing a legal entity or a business unit, maybe a division or even a currency is quick and easy.”
“I like to think about it as the two T's--technology and talent--and talent is definitely on everyone's mind today.”
The Big Themes:
• It’s important to pick the right horse: In terms of transformation, in terms of collaboration, communication culture, in terms of DevOps and engineering culture, in the spirit of becoming a digital company.
• Can do a lift and shift: Choosing a path now with our entire executive team and over 500 people and 3,000 – 4,000 customers.
• The model would guide us eventually: To land in a place where we can definitively prove that we continue to deliver value because if we don't they'll stop spending and then we're out of business.
• People want to do impactful work: This is the place where you're going to be on the leading edge of what's possible because you're literally using a platform which is limited only by your imagination in terms of what you can achieve.
The Big Quotes:
“And it takes a significant amount of effort, but we love playing that role specifically because we're so passionate about the outcome.”
“We've got more than 28 regions. We've got plans for 10 more. We've got the largest network with the lowest latency of any cloud provider.”
“I loved the library when I was a kid and I love it even more now because now the library is the world.”
The Big Themes:
• Every industry has gone through some profound changes: But when you shift online, there are significant challenges in understanding where do you position inventory?
• There are breaches all the time: Because almost every cyber breach is like a black swan event. Before the breach, the organization thought it was secure.
• Building large scale consumer services: We now want all our clients to be able to stand on our shoulders as we support them on what they're trying to do.
• Look in the rear view mirror: Our goals are to help organizations. We truly believe the important challenges and our mission is to help clients with their most important challenges.
The Big Quotes:
“How do you broaden the nature of the products and services, as well as how do you broaden the reach of the financial market?”
“But working with Ikea, we learned a lot from them on how to make such an experience possible.”
“And so people will want to cherish some aspects of how they work with that along with obviously being in the office, ideating with their colleagues and working.”
The Big Themes:
• Now you can put your own paint on it: That's going to be a terrific thing for the clients, the buyers into next year and the year after.
• It's a mindset change: Message for the board and for the CEO is to think about whether you're really changing the nature of the business.
• The secret sauce for the vertical: We have to work in the wider ecosystem of that industry, whether it's healthcare, retail, manufacturing, or financial services.
The Big Quotes:
“I've got an article coming out later this week or next week on Acceleration Economy where I define the term digital transformation – and the opposite.”
“Downside of this you got to get on this bandwagon, or the acceleration is going to flatten you like roadkill.”
“We don't have to worry about things like servers and storage and networks anymore as ITP, and neither do the vendors.”
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The Big Themes:
• Hyper focused on the four markets in regulated industries: Healthcare, telecommunications, financial services and government.
• IBM's heritage is in the mid office and the back office: Our mainframe runs the systems of records in the back office. That essentially is the sun in our solar system.
• We're an open company that provides choice: As we go through the next transformation of which IBM's been through many in its hundred plus years.
• Working within the wisdom of clouds: We de-risk cloud consumption as variants, infrastructure as a service, platform as a service and also software as a service.
The Big Quotes:
“So actually I'll put it into the context of the three-legged stool which is what all of those three groups will think about.”
“If you think about the steps to that journey, IBM has always been very active in open source.”
“And that has resonated really well with the policy makers and the actual regulators as with three central banks and the European central banks last week.”
The Big Themes:
Public cloud operating model: Maybe there was more governance requirements, more security. We are seeing now customers becoming more thoughtful.
Endless pots of gold: The one big thing on their mind is, “How can I do more with less money.”
First-party data, on-premises data: But at the same time having the same self-service model, the speed, the agility, the security, the performance that you need via applications and the access.
That technology is a means to an end: It’s really connecting with the people that we do business with. People are the most important – our customers, our employees, and our partners.
The Big Quotes:
“According to Gartner, about 75% of the people they surveyed revealed that midsize and large enterprises are moving to hybrid and multi-cloud and 81% of public cloud users are using more than two clouds.”
“Our Nutanix cloud platform is built for that kind of portability across environments to begin with.”
“So we are integrating with AWS, with Azure, with other cloud providers, with managed service cloud providers to deliver that functionality to our customers in a really simplified manner.”
The Big Themes:
• The Baby Boomers are retiring: Further accelerating the need to deal with mainframes.
• FinTech as an example: Old brick and mortar banks and investment firms have had mainframes for 40 years, but those workhorses can’t handle fast-changing world of digital finance.
• You’d better get that project right: We always tell our CIOs, "When you successfully move your mainframe to the cloud, you're going to end up in the CEO's office." Unfortunately, the opposite is also true!
The Big Quotes:
“I would think there's about 20,000 mainframes left in existence spread over 5,500 customers.”
“We call them unicorns—the COBOL, CICS, DB2, deep technical experts—and they will retire before the mainframes are migrated.”
“So, we want to pass that comfort level on and share it with our new customers to say, ‘Yeah, there are going to be things that'll be difficult. We'll get there together.’”
The Big Themes:
• The great resignation is effecting projects: What are some of the key findings or trends about these transformations? What was different in Q3?
• What are the biggest reasons projects fail to deliver results? So many companies in the middle of digital transformation.
• What are some of the pain points: That's actually a little bit higher than we've seen in the past.
• What should customers be prepared for: Our survey results point the way forward for businesses.
The Big Quotes:
“So many of these digital transformations are dependent upon a third-party professional services firm.”
“This is almost going contrary to this idea of working remotely. But their main complaint was the fact that they were not able to travel anymore, it was actually something that they missed.”
“So the fewer integrations that you have and the less spaghetti, the less mess.”
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The Big Themes:
• Facebook is evil: It’s a lot like going to work for Philip Morris 30 years ago. We should continue to invest in solving the world’s problems.
• Tesla is undervalued: Tesla is a software company. Tesla is an automaker – and in five years we’ll see who’s right.
• An interesting and kind of fun way: How can you make these companies more software companies over the next few years?
• The faster we can get there: When we’re taking shots at social media – there’s big problems that need to be addressed.
The Big Quotes:
“And frankly, every time I think, okay we've hit rock bottom. It's like they figured out a way to drill further into the rock and look worse.”
“And so we need to be really careful that we don't I think that we don't paint with too broad a brush there.”
“Do you work digital or not? It's just like, so are you going to work or you're going to retire?”
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The Big Themes:
• We just launched a new channel: Reflecting this global business phenomenon, it’s called the data revolution—and it’s turning the business world upside-down.
• Mining for gold: Gathering as much customer data as possible and then using mining algorithms to gain insights and opportunities.
• Aggregated, integrated, and transformed: Data transformation is the term that is used rou describes the modern digital recipe for turning to turn raw data into business data.
• What can and should they do differently? Companies are interacting with their customers online and in unprecedented digital ways.
The Big Quotes:
“Gartner predicts that 75% of all databases will either be created in the cloud or move to the cloud by the end of next year.”
“And they're like, how did they know that about me? It's a little unsettling.”
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The Big Themes:
• The real story behind the supply chain: There are not enough skilled workers in manufacturing, logistics, distribution, and trucking.
• Combination of technology and innovative programs: Like apprenticeships, primary school education programs, and recruiting people from other industries.
• Geo-political dynamics: LinkedIn pulling out of China, recent investments by the US government to stimulate American ships manufacturing, and 5G development.
• Google is an example of a broader trend: This is a deceptively simple observation and one that holds insights for business leaders.
The Big Quotes:
“It's clearly starting to have an impact as we get a little closer to the holiday season.”
“Boy, we had that all wrong. What were we thinking? We're rethinking our strategy but trust me, they are.”
“We might break that into four or five that have proximity to final assembly, proximity to customers, proximity to talent, proximity to energy grids.”
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The Big Themes:
• The solution is a production database: So there’s a big period of time when I have two different data sources. And you run the report off that database.
• We learned about Chesterton's fence: It didn't grow like a weed – somebody put it there. They spent time and money and energy. I say to CEOs boards and my customers ask yourself, why did we do it that way?
• Very worried about shadow IT: The CEO and the CIO will come to tell you one thing: this is bad.
• Keep the lemmings from running over the cliff: Traditionally, the board of directors and the business people were talking about the same thing – and so were the vendors. Giving them the benefit of our advice.
The Big Quotes:
“Oracle got it. IBM got it. Microsoft gets it. Some of the other vendors that were more product focused, kind of looked at their product from the wrong end of the telescope.”
“They don't want to buy a vendor's product. They want to buy a process solution.”
“Do analytics, look at dashboards. They've already seen it 20 times.”
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The Big Themes:
• We're not loyal to each other: I think you've got to breathe almost our hearts back into our organizations.
• Competitors are very aggressive: And they're enticing them with new programs at 20% rates. The salaries are getting kicked up just because they're paying more.
• Blindingly obvious: When we’re in the four walls, we forget the simple things. It’s really a clear and present demonstration of what your values and beliefs are.
• Empowerment is about decision rights: I don't feel like I'm making impact. I'm not trusted to do my job.
The Big Quotes:
“I'm not an Elon Musk fan boy, I think he has good qualities and bad qualities.”
“This is how we're enabling you to have more fun.”
“Are we so dumb as to think that people can't sense that?”
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The Big Themes:
• “Scaling Up” – by Verne Harnish: The four Ds: drivers, demands, discipline, and decisions.
• Growth doesn’t always equal success: For each organization, defining what success means is really important to defining how you can make a decision and make those executions a reality.
• The Acceleration Economy Analyst Network: This is a new venture from Acceleration Economy Media, a group of experts creating content from different points of view.
• The Acceleration Economy Conference: This will be happening in Arizona in March, as a face-to-face event.
The Big Quote:
“I personally love that we're able to take some time and recognize those points of view, recognize what others have been doing.”
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The Big Themes:
• Your data pipeline is key: A strong data pipeline with a decent model is better than an awesome model with a weak data pipeline
• Sit down with the executives: It's relevant at the executive level as well. Guys at the CEO level like Cloud Wars All-Star Tony Uphoff are pushing the envelope through data.
• In data analysis, there’s a war for high quality talent: Figure out how to get better candidates into the top of your funnel and move the right candidates through that funnel faster.
The Big Quote:
“I think this concept of just digital twins in general is something that you're going to see start to radiate across more and more of complex systems.”
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The Big Themes:
• Young kids don’t have any money: After spending a hundred thousand dollars on a four year education I’d like to see the universities at least provide a one day seminar and teach them personal skills.
• A lot of brilliant minds: Talented people that are in the middle of their career have no idea how to navigate to the next level.
• They have to do their homework: I find it very sad that these young people don’t recognize that they have to present themselves.
• The video conference is a challenge: If you're feeling stressed take a breath, have fun, enjoy yourself, try really hard to make it a conversation. It’s not always about your skills or abilities. It’s about the personality contest.
The Big Quotes:
“Look online. Every company has hundreds of openings and there's so many people that are interviewing.”
“You need to also recognize that your hope is that you're going to gain one or two advocates out of the interviewers.”
“It's hugely important to recognize that you really want to connect with these people that are on the interview cycle.”
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The Big Themes:
• Operating solutions to hotels, casinos, and cruise ships: It’s been a brutal 18 months for hospitality – the industry did a very good job early on of shoring up liquidity.
• We did quite well during COVID: The vast majority of the partner technologies that were deployed I'd say in the first 12 months of the pandemic were largely focused around mobility.
• These are huge numbers: We're talking IT staffs that numbered in the thousands pre-pandemic. I don't see those IT organizations returning to pre-pandemic numbers.
• It was hard to get a hotel room: I think the industry's going to have a gangbuster holiday season.
The Big Quotes:
• “I can tell you in the immediate timeframe, because of the staffing shortages, there's a heavy reliance on technology as an intermediary to facilitate that guest experience.”
• “I hope you stayed at a property that leverages our Oracle hospitality technology.”
• “It's a really great win-win product, because the traveler is always getting a better product and the hotel's getting more money.”
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The Big Themes:
• Setting clear project goals and timelines: This will help you measure your progress. Without clear goals and success metrics, it will be difficult to understand if you are on right track.
• Make sure you have leadership buy-in: It’s important to get these individuals on board. Leadership support can also ensure you have the right resources.
• Select the right consulting partner: They wish they did more research on their consulting partner instead of simply using the first partner that their software vendor recommended.
• How to recover: Identify what is happening in real-time and isolate the specific points of failure. Assess the impact on your project and organization.
The Big Quotes:
“So who knows where the next wave of technology will take us.”
“Well, like the age old question, how do you eat an elephant? It's like one bite at a time.”
“You want a partner who's not going to bait and switch you and give you wrong the team during the selection process.”
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The Big Themes:
• They're looking to modernize everything they do: And whether that's the infrastructure, whether that's how they operate the infrastructure, but it's such a key priority.
• I look at this as two layers of that cake: If we go back to the pillars of a modernization, infrastructure, operations, and applications.
• And I think there's really three pillars to that: One is certainly modernizing their infrastructure. Two is their operations and how they're interacting with their data. And then three is empowering their modern applications.
• If you look at our core storage products: They're designed from day one to be very elastically scalable, non-disruptively so that they can easily be expanded in terms of performance, in terms of capacity.
The Big Quotes:
“All of a sudden your entire workforce is working from home and there's IT demands that come out of that.”
“Maybe there's a hurricane, a data center goes offline. How do I bridge that gap? How do I survive that couple of weeks before I can get back to normal?"
“And so I think that's going to continue to increase. And again, that's something that we've invested heavily here at Pure. Because it just fits so well with the core principles of our technology.”
The Big Themes:
• You may be hearing about it: The Buy American Act, The Infrastructure Bill, The United States Innovation, and Competition Act.
• Based on our Thomas data: We have a few predictions of supply chain disruptions that will impact the consumer economy over the next 12 months.
• The woman that created a billion dollar brand called Spanx: She was pretty savvy about design and had at least a functional understanding of some of the engineering requirements.
• These key pieces of legislation: Are accelerating the US manufacturing economy and will play significant roles in driving the overall US economy and global security.
The Big Quotes:
“And all these things arrived for the first time in history, that generation is being hit with product shortages and problems of supply chain, disruption, and ships backed up in harbors.”
“If you can, I would wait at least six to 12 months to buy your next car.”
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The Big Themes:
• Every industry: Think about how each one of them accelerated or propelled what they would have taken years to get to in a very, very short period of time.
• Some businesses have opened, some have closed: But one thing it's really taught us is we're able to touch billions of people in meaningful ways, across a broad spectrum.
• Constantly engaging with your customers: And the more you own your customer’s success, the more rewards you will see for your engagement.
• That's what you purchased: Today, you purchase a car that's convenient and that meets your sustainability, and is the next generation and it's driven through software.
The Big Quotes:
“But it's incredible how human beings have been able to cope with this and continue to cope with the scenarios around it in every place around the world.”
“And so we have to work every day, really hard to make our customers successful.”
The Big Themes:
• IBM support is a differentiator: Upstart cloud vendors are in an IaaS arms race. Legacy enterprise IT clients have been with IBM clients for 50+ years.
• Board of duty of care: The board’s overarching mandate is to protect shareholders over the long term. Boards have two main fiduciary duties: Loyalty and care.
• Cybersecurity and obsolescence risk: What is the age of IT components vs. current – years matter less than generations.
• The right CIO: The CEO gets the CIO they settle for. And CEOs should lobby for QTE—qualified technology expert—on the board.
The Big Quotes:
“We can't get people. We can't get stuff. We can't get network capabilities added because everybody's out of everything.”
“We are now 20 months into a pandemic where we sent the office workers home. Microsoft just the other day said, ‘We're not coming back for a while.’ “
“So you can be a higher margin, higher stickiness, higher customer satisfaction in a company and survive for the long run.”
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The Big Themes:
• This thing called fog of war: And the fog of war is you don't know everything. And then as soon as the bullets start flying, you actually know less because it's like this aperture shrinks.
• Half the Fortune 500 will be replaced by other companies: We have the highest churn rate in the history of the list.
• Most of our corporations are run by terrible leaders: They have the technical background, but just look at our firms, look at how tone deaf they are.
• It's a fantastic world: It's the standards that you have to live up to. And in the exploration of this conversation, we can get to the heart of why leadership is so difficult.
The Big Quotes:
“I think we've lost the societal grit to do good leadership to the extent that we need to, because it's so freaking hard.”
“When you learn leadership, there's fundamental principles that are at play here, and sometimes they're in conflict.”
“Not the placards that the typical HR department puts on the walls, which are meaningless and senseless. A waste of print dollars.”
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The Big Themes:
• The Ambassador: Excited about the project and are telling everyone about it. They’ll be the first ones that post their go-live badge on LinkedIn. They’re also rolling-up their sleeves to contribute.
• The up-and-comer: Might not have previous experience but see the project as an opportunity to grow in their career and add a successful digital transformation to their resume. Great attitude.
• Debbie Downer/Don Downer: “We’ve always done it this way” is their MO. They have a problem for every solution.
• I’m only here for the snacks: Quiet and non-participatory in meetings and email. Demotivate the team and get credit where credit is not due.
The Big Quotes:
“The success of a project is going to boil down to good people management.”
“You want to make sure that you're hand picking the team.”
“A lot of these problems can be solved through good documentation and a good project blueprint where people have known exactly what they're needing to contribute and buy one.”
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The Big Themes:
• It just doesn’t magically happen: It’s not the data you already have, this is one of the hard lessons that lot of folks think.
• DataStax fits into that equation: And this is one of the things that I think goes back to what you talked about in terms of agility.
• Everybody has S3 compatible APIs: You've got your storage now that is just scale out via very simple APIs. You've got your compute now that's been standardized on top of Kubernetes.
• You may have some rock stars: But majority of code written even at these internet companies is written by good developers. And I guarantee you, you've got good developers.
The Big Quotes:
“And so Cassandra was what enabled a number of retailers, many of the major retailers in operation today built critical parts of their e-commerce stack on top of Cassandra.”
“The starting point for most folks is you start talking about saying, ‘Okay, you need to collect and log and interpret all of these streams of data.’”
“And so the open data stack is about trying to make data catch up to where Kubernetes is in terms of giving you that agility.”
The Big Themes:
• You've got great leaders at the top of the house: In both those companies you really understand innovation.
• One of our venture companies: We sold a company to a publicly traded company that when that transaction happened, I got a lot of congratulations.
• That ship has sailed: I also think though that speaks to another thing that we expected to happen when you plug into an organization – like in this case of Salesforce or Oracle.
• Very fast moving dynamic: So we need to keep in mind not to get locked into an idea that will surely be obsolete in a matter of weeks or months.
The Big Quotes:
“But that doesn't mean that the $27 billion was a fair price. I think it probably was not unfortunately for the shareholders.”
“The game was how many times could you say synergy in a windowless conference room for 30 minutes?”
“I think in enterprise tech you're really seeing something of this happening now in Slack.”
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The Big Themes:
• A fascinating cultural shift: The millennial generation’s increasing dissatisfaction with “knowledge work” and the increasing interest in wanting to make things.
• The cultural legacies of the US manufacturing industry: This is why so many industries are disrupted by outsiders.
• Technology continues to advance dramatically: It’s time to transform and upgrade how technology is positioned, explained, and sold.
• Many scheduled office re-openings have been pushed back: We’re seeing some companies announce full remote plans in perpetuity. What will this push-back do to the tentative office re-opening plans?
The Big Quotes:
“I think I shared with you in New York City that there's over 8,000 small manufacturers that are generating over $7 billion a year in revenue in New York City.”
“We hit a really interesting inflection point where the number of millennial managers were in the workforce and at the same size as the Baby Boom managers.”
“The US manufacturing industry is close to a $3 trillion industry—there are not of industries of that size walking around.”
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The Big Themes:
- Accenture ransomware: Accenture’s response – they quickly detected, defended, and repaired. So far, it appears to be only a low-value material leaked.
- The New Digital Edge: McKinsey article rethinking strategy for the post-pandemic era. “By 2023, most companies will need to build new digital businesses to stay economically viable.”
- Talking to CFOs: After talking with several CFOs since the last episode, I think it’s time for some changes. Why does IT report to the CFO at so many companies?
- What should happen: CFO should tell the CEO, ‘no thanks!’ CFOs and the CIOs make a more powerful team – even better as peers.
The Big Quotes:
“Accenture also said none of our confidential material was leaked.”
“And you know that whole 19th century model of the green eyeshades and the rolled-up sleeves at the desk – that world has changed, and we've got to recognize it.”
“So go back 50, 60 years, the first people that put technology and the first computers went in the 1950s – that's 70 years ago.”
“Walter Wriston, the founder of the organizer of Citibank, said information about money is as valuable as money itself.”
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The Big Themes:
- The “T” in Teamwork: Why employees with breadth and depth are imperative for harmonizing organizational goals and culture. We call this the acceleration economy.
- We are launching a brand-new program: August 19th to be exact, and it's all content driven to what is the future role of the office of the CFO.
- Tie in the future effects of the office: What’s the difference between data digitization – and why organizations should care.
- I think develops a richer culture: It also helps for those people who are in those decision-making roles to better understand what you're doing.
The Big Quotes:
“A lot of organizations are needing to be adaptive and changing on a dime.”
“I think more roles are going to be a little less tactical – a little more visionary and strategic.”
“Check out our podcasts, The Wrap, that is one of my highlights of the week, and it's a time that we can share what we've heard through the week.
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As President of SAP S/4HANA, Jan Gilg oversees development of SAP's flagship ERP product, digital supply chain, and industry solutions. In this conversation, Jan discusses how the shift to a digital economy is driving unprecedented changes in how businesses operate, and the new types of software solutions businesses require to thrive in such an environment. In the midst of all that upheaval, SAP itself has changed in significant ways, and Gilg shares his perspectives on the benefits those changes are driving for customers.
The Big Themes:
- Across all 25 industries: Now moving into the cloud we are really following the old modularization strategy on the one hand side – and blurring much, much more.
- Much better visibility: I probably want to have more visibility into multiple tiers of my supply chain.
The Big Quotes:
“This will be a steering dimension for every company in every industry.”
“And we capture the data from the sensors and feed it again into the context of the vehicles.”
“The shift to Office 365 was massive from our perspective.”
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The Big Themes:
- Like Goldilocks' testing out the three different sized chairs: This one is too big, this one is too small—this one is JUST RIGHT. Mid-size businesses need solutions and partners that are "just right" for them.
- McKinsey has reported: What mid-size enterprises really need to realize their growth potential is "the ability to access foreign markets, increase operational efficiency and adopt growth-enabling technologies."
- Big idea: Businesses need to choose software that is flexible, agile, and facilitates collaboration – especially as businesses re-think in-person versus remote workspaces for their people.
- Perhaps most important of all: The midmarket needs software that's quick and less expensive to implement compared to big on-premise ERP systems.
The Big Quotes:
“So Goldilocks was sort of a modern software pioneer.”
“This year we're upwards of 1,200 project reviews at this point.”
“Because I'm thinking if it's too hot and you get a blob of that on your tongue, it's not going to be a good experience.”
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The Big Themes:
- You must preserve the core of your business: Leadership is about to make the investments, provide the autonomy, create the innovation culture and align it to your overall strategy.
- The four freedoms: An organization that allows for innovation, capability to really thrive, grow, and affect the future of your business.
- What I call the beacon model: You create a capability that is related – but separate from the core of your business.
- These are courageous innovators: They have to be able to frame and form their own culture. There is a certain amount of operational form of freedom.
The Big Quotes:
“So the relationship between leadership and courage – and then the ability to be an innovator.”
“Jeff Bezos he has a bunch of them, but one of my favorites is he says something to the extent of, ‘You cannot be afraid of being misunderstood.’”
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The Big Themes:
- We went all in with Google Cloud: Most of our peers were actually going in the other direction. They wanted to be multicloud, making acquisitions in adjacent ecosystems.
- Return to work shouldn’t mean return to normal: If I talk to our software developers, who were already remote before the pandemic.
- This is the future of our business: We are about to make an investment that will change the trajectory of the company forever, and we have very high expectations.
The Big Quotes:
“There's no customer that adopts the Google platform stack without taking on some bit of change.”
“We serve all the traditional enterprises that are fighting for relevance and survival, and we're serving all the startups that are actively disrupting them.”
“We've attracted some of the most talented, and amazing – like Miles – executives in the world to come join us on this journey, and so, I think our customers feel that.”
The Big Themes:
- Will business travel come back? There is a lot of conjecture about business travel being forever changed by the forced online interaction of the pandemic. Our sense is it already has been but not in the way many people think.
- Thomas Q2 Sourcing Report is out: And reflects strong demand across a wide range of categories, with significant implications for technology markets. We nailed a few of our Q2 predictions and have several for Q3.
- Higher Ed and Healthcare: Two massive markets that many people feel have been ripe for technology disruption for years but they remain unchanged. Will this time be different?
- The increase in demand for PCB boards: It’s not solely coming from the traditional consumer electronics. It's really coming from the auto industry.
The Big Quotes:
“I think for a lot of your listeners, you're seeing the major cloud vendors are all in on the top two or three focus of vertical cloud.”
“I think we're witnessing a whole new era of how products are conceived, how they're designed, how they're built, how they're manufactured, how they're distributed.”
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The Big Themes:
- Returning to the office: This isn’t really what native digitals want. Apple employees revolted, as did Google’s, prompting one of the largest technology companies in the world to backtrack.
- The result of this macro trend:If you are 35 years old or younger you will progressively spend time, energy, and money improving and enhancing your digital life, not your physical life.
- The stuff business: 140 million native digital Americans and Millennials and Gen Z grew up in an era where they watched how their parents pursuit of “stuff” didn't really lead to anything meaningful.
- A diamond is forever: This campaign eventually evolved into commercials in the late 1970’s where DeBeers quite literally defines how much a man should spend on an engagement ring.
The Big Quotes:
“So what's going on here when you're native analog, your primary reality is a physical or analog reality.”
“This has profound implications for the way we work, but it's a lot more than just that.”
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The Big Themes:
- Offer customers the best in breed solutions: The pace that we see in the Middle East is a very hungry market for technology and knowledge.
- The best way to accelerate: We have done a rollout in 20 countries using that template in a very short period of time. I think this is a big change from the past.
- A very quick return on their investments: So it’s very important to understand the quick wins from these types of projects.
- A journey with our customers: We believe that if they grow, their business grows, we will grow with them. That’s our culture.
The Big Quotes:
"What's your business strategy in the next three to five years?"
“People want to grow. They want to grow quickly. They want to expand.”
“And then I think it's more about focusing on the people.”
The Big Themes:
- Cloud repatriation: Techies and investors are buzzing about a recent articlethat seems to argue, “start in the cloud, then move back in-house.”
- BoD and CIO/CISO gap: Most CIOs/CISOs have limited BoD interaction, and most board directors know far too little about technology. They need to talk!
- Last week I became a NACD ‘Certified Director’: After lots of study and a grueling exam! So BoDs are on my mind more than usual.
- Pat Fitzgerald about hiring and retaining workers: Shakespeare, “Glendower: I can call the spirits from the vasty deep.” “Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can anyone – but will they come when you call them?”
The Big Quotes:
“And right now there is not a single restaurant that doesn't have a help wanted sign the size of their window.”
“Now it's 2021. Ransomware is in the news. Cybersecurity is in the news. Digital transformation is in the news I contend.”
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The Big Themes:
- The creativity that each one of them had: Telling their own story – and a lot of them used real-life stories and data, and so much more.
- They’re very polarizing: You can’t really put human management together and feel that’s a warm environment – that definitely has a lot of tone to it.
- More companies are trying to be strategic: In order to be competitive and to meet customer expectations, they’re having this drive to be from the customer’s point of view.
- There’s lots of ways to engage with us: We’ve been running this event for over 10 years, and it’s a fantastic way to network with the Microsoft ecosystem.
The Big Quotes:
“So how do you build those skillsets and some of those big questions of how you can become adaptable.”
“I think they are going to move up to the top of the list and compete higher.”
“As a young leader I guess is to lead with empathy, and lead with human awareness and kindness.”
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The Big Themes:
- That’s what Silk helps with: We’re helping customers take those applications, and more importantly the databases underneath them – and successfully deploy them to the public cloud.
- Performance and cost: We always describe it as two sides of the same coin. You can have all that performance, but it’s going to cost you the world.
- The platform works as a very clever system: It uses a two-tier architecture that splits performance and capacity into independent dimensions.
- The crown jewels of the database space: When it comes to moving it and putting it into someone else’s cloud, you really need to be absolutely sure that you’re going to get everything you need.
The Big Quotes:
“I'm in a very privileged position to be able to talk to lots of CEOs and CTOs of very large companies.”
“It's essentially like a t-shirt size methodology, but most real life work clothes don't fit into the easy small, medium, or large categories.”
“I just think that everyone needs to keep an eye on what's happening in this database space.”
The Big Themes:
- They want a player that’s crushing their quota year-after-year: Everybody’s going after that person. To get a search agency that’s going to make you a priority and only recruit for you is not realistic.
- They’re experts in their field: They’re sales recruiters, and that’s all they do. They’re engineering recruiters – and that’s all they do.
- Equity is always going to be a big issue: I think we’ll continue to be a driving force for change in the future.
- Candidates are just getting multiple offers, multiple calls: They’re getting tired of getting all the recruiting phone calls and interviews.
The Big Quotes:
“Did that person resonate with me? Do we share common values? You know, are they going to help me get to that next level?”
“They’re going to have more resources. They’re going to have more tools. They’re going to have more investment put into making that organization or that team successful because that’s their business.”
“They want to be with companies that are going to make their job easier.”
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The Big Themes:
- Microsoft has said that for every $1 of software they sell, partners make $9: The opportunity for channel partners in this time of cloud growth is huge.
- It should mirror the customer base: Software vendors should make it easy for customers to know who their partners are.
- Effective onboarding and training programs: These ensure that partners have the domain expertise to work any given software and ongoing programs.
- A level playing field: Not cherry-picking partners for customers based upon name brand or because they fund the top sponsorships.
The Big Quotes:
- “This is really a summary of the last three years of research.”
- “Just because somebody was great one year doesn't mean that they're going to be great the following year.”
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The Big Themes:
- Taking a victory lap: When you look at those lists, these are technology companies that have figured out how to partner and work within the industry.
- New Carnegie Mellon masters program:I believe the first masters level joint business degree is to help students prepare to be a product manager.
- The enemy of my enemy is my friend: But the other part of that is true as well. There’s a lot of moving pieces on the chess board right now.
- Rockefeller breaking up Standard Oil: After the breakup, he got significantly wealthier. Could the same happen with Amazon and AWS?
The Big Quotes:
“I think that the other thing that's going to be interesting as I kind of look into the back half of 2021 and 2022 is I do think we're going to start to actually see a lot more innovation around healthcare.”
“The vaccine rollout is nothing short of a miracle.”
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Oliver Bussmann is a world-renowned expert specializing on the intersection of technology and business with particular expertise in financial services, and is now CEO of Bussmann Advisory AG. Having been both a CIO and a COO, Oliver has held senior positions at UBS, SAP, Allianz, Deutsche Bank and IBM.
I had a great chat with Oliver Bussmann, who's a strategic advisor and board member for corporations and software companies, as well as startups in fintech, payments, and blockchain. Having been CIO at not only one of the world's top software companies – SAP –but also at some leading financial institutions – UBS and Allianz – Oliver shares compelling insights on digital transformation, new business models, the impact of technology on strategy, and the ongoing battle for talent.
The Big Themes:
- State-of-the-art technology: How they connect to the ecosystem, so there are two worlds coming together.
- Bringing data into the cloud: There’s a price tag to that too. It’s not only an efficiency play, by the way, meaning which application you want to test drive.
- It’s a never-ending story: The next one is already waiting around the corner. You have to adjust how you work together, and the level of collaboration has changed dramatically over the couple of years.
- My weekly newsletter: In total almost 40,000 subscribers. I have a huge community of a hundred thousand followers on LinkedIn.
The Big Quotes:
“The most important asset that you have is your people. And how you take your people, your organization on that journey, get them excited, motivated, help them to learn more new skills and capabilities.”
“And we are at the beginning of a marathon. It's not a sprint.”
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The Big Themes:
- Why isn’t big data producing big insights? In our last episode we tee’d up the idea that while we have seen extraordinary advances in big data, data analytics and data science, it’s harder to find examples of extraordinary insights of the use of big data.
- How should business leaders factor human judgement: In his latest book, “Noise,” Daniel Kahneman, a Nobel Prize winning economist suggests that the issue is about human judgement and not data.
- The era of augmented intelligence: We are seeing some remarkable advances in AI and ML learning — and there are wide ranging implications for business, politics, and society.
- Many companies are rethinking what “return to office” means: As major companies announce return to office, employees have seen the benefits of remote work.
The Big Quotes:
“We're spending a lot of time watching artificial intelligence takeoff in the industrial marketplaces and manufacturing marketplaces.”
“So this is a human element and there is an X factor oftentimes in human interactions that is very difficult to articulate.”
“And this is a truly extraordinary time. We are at an inflection point where the enabling technologies and our ability to understand how to use them.”
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The Big Themes:
- Wake-up call for boards and C-Suites: What do we hear from victims? “We didn’t think we’d be a target.”
- In our emerging acceleration economy: Firms can’t afford the lost time, the lost revenue/added costs, the hit to reputation a successful attack causes.
- Firms must do six things well: Robust prevention, quick detection, defense in depth, keeping secrets secret, effective repair/restoration, and not keeping your eggs in one basket.
- Manage systemic risk, not just cybersecurity: If someone can waltz in and unplug the firewall, are you secure?
The Big Quotes:
“There's a John Chambers quote that I've used before. There are two kinds of companies: those that have been hacked, and those they don't know that they've been hacked.”
“And if you're an executive and you had trouble understanding that, listen again, because nothing I said is very technical.”
“If your systems are cruddy and 15 years old and not connected, you might be in a full-time hygiene mode.”
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The Big Themes:
- Fundamental and important to the model: Data lakes, data hubs, data warehouses, data marketplaces – that’s a lot of data.
- Snowflake has popularized the concept: Other vendors are latching onto it – you could argue it is kind of revolutionizing that whole model.
- Google announced Dataplex: A data fabric for integration, and they also announced an analytics hub for data sharing and analytics, and sharing insights into the data stream.
- A definition of cloud computing: Still holds up to the light of day after 13 years – including databases and data sources across an enterprise.
The Big Quotes:
“So my working headline here is, ‘What is a data cloud?’ I've been hearing the term ‘data cloud’ a lot recently.”
“I think that plumbing is involved, but it's less about plumbing and more about business strategy.”
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The Big Themes:
- Where these two circles intersect: You could offer a core set of applications, and the ability for you to pick and choose some of these other applications that are available.
- We set up Lifion to build our Next Gen HCM: We had to build it not for just the up-market U.S. space, but we were also targeting U.S. HQ at MNCs and international companies.
- The numbers may vary: I’m just going to use that standard rule of thumb we follow is the 80/20 rule. Enterprise software is about 80% of the use cases.
- How do you operationalize that mission: I think the way we’re coming into the market is we are saying, “We all want to be there, and we truly believe that this is a tool that can help you get there.”
The Big Quotes:
“Now, the best part of working within the ADP ecosystem, is we can truly leverage some of these third-party applications via our marketplace.”
“We probably do not give enough credit to some of the products that have come before us. They have been the ones who have done it for a while.”
The Big Themes:
- Plotted on a bell curve: Some are amazing, and some are terrible – and some are in the middle.
- Stability is not the issue: There’s capital behind these companies that give you the same amount of runway you could expect from any of the other kinds of companies.
- The term unicorn was coined: You needed to raise money at least a billion dollar valuation from one company in your portfolio to make that portfolio be a top performing venture portfolio.
- Microsoft and Nuance: You have the sales, the partnership, and the marketing muscle that a company like Microsoft can provide.
The Big Quotes:
“But the more interesting thing to me was that in the first five months of 2021, there were 187 companies that for the first time raised money at over a billion-dollar valuation.”
“The thing that's more concerning to me is I think there's a lot of reflection we, as an industry, need to do on the right way to create healthy corporate governance among these companies.”
“And I think it's time for CFOs to stop worrying about just doing the logistics.”
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The Big Themes:
- Abe Lincoln: Give me six hours to chop down a tree, and I will spend the first four hours sharpening the ax.
- No analysis paralysis: As you prepare to lock down your decision, you must be sure that the core problem you’re trying to solve is clearly outlined in your statement of work.
- Don’t boil the ocean: Our magic number is around three alternatives that you’re shortlisting before making a final decision.
- These trusted partners: When you find a partner that can challenge your ideas and make you think outside the box, that’s definitely a sign of somebody that could really be beneficial for your project.
The Big Quotes:
“Certainly Raven Intel is a great place where you can get peer review information written by other customers.”
“Celebrate your success in the end – and then do a look back and see what worked what didn’t.”
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Just over a year ago, Howard Boville left his job as CTO at Bank of America to join IBM as senior VP of hybrid cloud. Boville joined Cloud Wars Live to discuss the big changes he’s been driving at IBM Cloud, the booming market for industry clouds that he’s been aggressively championing within IBM, and the colossal market for industry-specific solutions. A recurring theme for Boville throughout our conversation is the opening of Chapter 2 in the cloud story, where large enterprises that have been caught up in purely technology conversations have flipped the topic to the one that will drive real and meaningful transformation: business outcomes. Boville has not only some great insights to share, but he’s also a gifted speaker who employs colorful language and humor to drive home essential points.
In this conversation, Boville shares his thoughts on the ongoing power of the IBM-SAP relationship, which is almost 50 years old, and on the essential need for deep industry knowledge.
The Big Themes:
- We’ve done 6,500 projects: We’ve got 38,000 SAP practitioners. But we've actually got now the regulated cloud capabilities that allow customers to move forward with their projects.
- They will run on different types of silicon: We have x86, we have Power, we have Z, and we also have Quantum, and that will become fully onboarded beyond research institutions onto our cloud at the end of this year.
- You can start your digital transformation immediately: There are a lot of cases where we’ve taken two, three, four year projects down to two, three, four months.
The Big Quotes:
“But one other point I would make, which is again very important, is we don't see ourselves as competing head-to-head against the other cloud service providers.”
“The case of cybersecurity is that threat factor never stops, so you always need to be thinking through different ways to actually protect through breadth and in depth.”
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The Big Themes:
- The citizen developer: Those low-code, no-code tools are giving the power back to their employees, and that’s creating a new environment that’s having a reorganization in that area.
- Some of the innovations from Microsoft Teams: It was just like a basic tool that I use with Teams. Some of the innovations that they developed so rapidly in the times of COVID to adapt to a new remote workforce.
- There’s always new things to soak in there: We also have a number of events that take place, and live on demand – one of them is our binge programs.
- Industry solutions: Trying to compare their challenges with other challenges – and try to see what matches and what’s worth their time and investment.
The Big Quotes:
“Most of my day job is reading, reviewing, producing content that's relevant in the business tech world, and helping others have a voice in that conversation as well.”
“A huge feature about mydacfeed.com is the ability to personalize your feed and get connected with relevant topics and find like-minded voices.”
“I think we saw something similar when Microsoft acquired Nuance, which was their second-largest acquisition behind LinkedIn.”
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The Big Themes:
- I’ve got 99 problems and tech ain’t one of them: It’s almost never a technology issue. It’s usually a people problem.
- The technologists out there: Many technologists can be overly focused on technology, which limits their ability to see the bigger business issues. What are you really going to be focused on?
- This is a journey: We need to embrace one another and lock arms and move forward together in a secular fashion.
The Big Quotes:
“But the only thing that surprises me by that is that most companies are going to go, oh, that's not me. That's somebody else. That's that other 40%.”
“Motivate your workforce to aspire to be different, aspire to be better, and understand that they're a part of that future that is different and better.”
“And so we're all going to be on board to do this, and we're not going to do a hundred things.”
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The Big Themes:
- Declare dominion over your work: Agency is working for something greater than a paycheck. When you love what you do, you have nothing to “balance.”
- Who is your Archimedes: “If you give me a lever and a place to stand, I can move the world.”
- YOLO, “You Only Live Once”: Originally made popular by the Grateful Dead drummer Mickey Hart. For many, a good job, a nice car, and a steady paycheck are no longer enough.
- Sometimes you need an auctioneer: Your auctioneer is probably a friend, a mentor, a family member, or former coworker who pushes you to do things you don’t think you can do.
The Big Quotes:
“So we're now seeing reasonably credible research being done by major organizations saying a huge percentage of people are considering changing jobs.”
“And so what the vast majority of people fail to understand about personal freedom and career agency is that you don't need everybody to agree with what you're doing.”
“I think we're at a time where it behooves all of us to care about our lives and our work and the intertwining of the two.”
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The Big Themes:
- According to the Association for Manufacturing Technology: In order to reshore 25% of the manufactured goods currently imported from China, US manufacturers will need to invest $400-$600 billion in manufacturing technology.
- Why isn’t “Big Data” yielding “Big Insights"? It might be because as business leaders we are still confusing causation and correlation.
- The “Streaming Wars”: Have changed the way that we all watch filmed entertainment. What can the rest of us learn from the battles between Netflix, Disney+ and HBO Max?
- These are incredibly exciting times: I think there’s a tremendous opportunity in the tech markets, and the manufacturing markets – and we are watching what’s happening in other parts of the world.
The Big Quotes:
“On Wall Street, they use the phrase, ‘Make the trend your friend’—and this is an irrefutable trend.”
“I guarantee you, Tim Cook and the team are tracking those data elements.”
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The Big Themes:
- A wealth of riches that we are so privileged to have: They serve as a kind of innovation pipeline in addition to our R&D teams.
- The default data was your data: I think the concept of data protection, data privacy, and now terms that people are using around confidential computing are really where the heart of our differentiation lies.
- IBM has worked in these industries for decades: Because we have worked with financial services, telco, healthcare, etc., IBM has brought together the different pieces of their applications.
- Could a quantum computer ever crack what I’m doing: Our researchers have invented algorithms that are secure against future quantum computers.
The Big Quotes:
“When we talk about IBM Cloud Satellite, it is about a consistent distributed cloud.”
“So I got to come into our cloud business several years ago and I now serve as our chief technology officer. And I'm also an IBM Fellow.”
“And so we're very closely partnering with our research organization on the topics of future programming models and deploying those kinds of capabilities through code engine and other services in our cloud.”
The Big Themes:
- The Colonial Pipleline hack: Wake-up call for boards and C-Suites. I’ve worked in utilities industry several times, and a hack in your OT system can kill people.
- Industry networks are not new: Banks have been ‘clearing’ checks and ‘settling’ securities trades for hundreds of years. Remember “Bank Americard.” But these new industry clouds take industry networks to completely new levels.
- Sadin’s Law of industry differentiation (80-10-10 Rule): It’s about process, not system application. 80% horizontal process, 10% industry jargon, 10% organizational culture and practice.
- Channel conflict looming: For every dollar spent on software you spend three dollars implementing it. VARs/ISVs have been valuable channel partners for decades.
The Big Quotes:
“It’s been a great time to be in this business. And it’s a wonderful time to be a consumer of all this stuff.”
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The Big Themes:
- A lot of exciting things happening: Gartner is estimating that 75% of databases will be migrated to the cloud or be launched in the cloud by the end of next year.
- Big Data startup Ocient:Just raised $40 million in Series B to fund work on ingesting data on exabyte scale.
- IDC forecast: What they call the “Enterprise Datasphere” is growing 2X faster than the “Consumer Datasphere.”
- Putting databases into outer space: If you’re storing your digital assets in satellites, maybe then physical space for storage units becomes less of an issue here on planet Earth.
The Big Quotes:
“So we went from terabytes, petabytes, exabytes, and now when you look at it globally, you're talking yottabytes?”
“So you can see that just tremendous amount of data being created but much of it is ephemeral, and short lived, it's cached and it's gone.”
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The Big Themes:
· I’m in the midst of writing a book: Everybody does it, but what’s exciting are the insights I’ll get to share from some remarkable people I’ve talked to.
· Purpose and culture often go hand-in-hand: We have to be students. We have to constantly study. We have to constantly come up with those new thoughts.
· “Customer-obsessed”? Most of us are not. What percentage of your meetings are directly focused specifically on a customer’s need, versus meandering discussions about internal issues?
· Pet peeve for the week: Are you marking time? And candidly, most meetings are marking time.
The Big Quotes:
“The role of the leader is to force-multiply the organization that they lead. That is our job.”
“That's my opportunity. That's my opportunity to learn.”
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The Big Themes:
- Old-school/new school: The big search firms have some really good assessment programs, but tie a formalized assessment program into succession planning.
- The CEO sets the tenor of the company: I think a lot of times these CEOs don’t fully appreciate the components that they’re asking for.
- The recruiter’s role: Knowing the company culture, management style, succession planning, and weaknesses for the future market intelligence, that recruiter becomes a more qualified candidate to get to final interview.
- We both love this marketplace: We are consulting with a lot of clients on this exact topic, and we’re certainly seeing a lot more interest.
The Big Quotes:
“Now's the time to really go out and become a brand, a Glassdoor premiere company that really allows for talent to continue to develop that.”
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The Big Themes:
- Servicing large enterprises for 100 years: So it’s just a natural motion to actually have this form factor there.
- Reimagining what you do:Everything has entropy, and they calcify and atrophy,so you forever have got to refresh this. But to do that, you’ve actually got to then deconstruct it.
- De-risking digital supply chains: Don’t just think about the cloud capabilities. Think about the compliance controls that we have built over the past two and half years.
- Living in the future: I was going through our quantum computing capability with them, because we’re going to put that onto our cloud at the end of the year.
The Big Quotes:
“You're liberating my ability to get to all of my data, irrespective as to where it may be, whether it's on premise in the IBM Cloud or in another cloud as well – which again is unique to us.”
“And I guess imitation is the best form of flattery, but the ability to actually write once and run anywhere, again, is uniquely differentiated to us.”
“If you're a technologist, it's kind of like a candy store with the best assets you could ever imagine.”
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The Big Themes:
- Digital transformation is off the charts: But is the customer experience any better as a result of all this digital transformation?
- Poll this week with my inner circle:Over half said customer service in the past year since COVID-19 is worse – with 14% saying much worse.
- Starbucks experience used to be a place of relaxation: Now you’re greeted with 15 rules before you walk in the door. You get your overpriced coffee, and you waited in line for 10 minutes and you can’t even sit there to drink it.
- B2B Services are improved – particularly with IT consulting services: This reflects better customer experiences where so much is delivered remotely.
The Big Quotes:
“It's that final mile that you go, that they truly are going to remember and create that loyalty that, that in the end, it's going to truly benefit your company.”
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The Big Themes:
- It’s all about orchestrating the work: If you really step back and start with our customer’s customer, you need to do different things from different industries.
- How businesses are redefining themselves: Wayne Gretzky says, “Skate where the puck is going.” The puck is coming directly at us.
- Still on this new journey: Really excited about where this is going – especially the way we are building the solutions and taking them to market.
- We’re very passionate about this: If you really want to be able to change the way our customers are interacting with their customers, you really have to get in their shoes.
The Big Quotes:
“So with our solution, they went live in eight weeks and they achieved a 70% reduction in cost and a 1,500 times faster processing time.”
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The Big Themes:
- We’ve been having multi-cloud and hybrid cloud for quite some time: Without a lot of churn or having to rip out some core solutions that they’ve been using.
- Our unique AI, ML capabilities: Ranked highest in the market by lots of outside sources, and really help us to respond to our customers very, very quickly.
- At Google Cloud we can build from the ground up: We’re looking at an industry transformation, but what our customers really want is to understand and transform their business.
- We’re really doing the hard research and the hard heavy lifting: We don’t believe that anybody else can solve it as well as we can.
The Big Quotes:
“The whole way we build solutions from start to finish is involving customers at every step of the journey.”
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The Big Themes:
- Extremely unique in the industry: It’s not just about verticalizing one aspect of the cloud service – it’s bringing verticalization across the cloud services in a unified and seamless way.
- Tech intensity: That is about having the tools at hand to build a strong digital foundation, to allow you to be resilient and future-proof.
- The digital factory of the future: How do you have a rapid response for the supply chain – bringing together Azure HoloLens, as well as Dynamics 365.
- The end game: What you want to provide for your customers, and then what are the set of processes that you need to develop for that outcome.
The Big Quotes:
“This is a multi-year strategy, because we've heard from our customers that they need us to be a digital transformation partner and to help them continue to rapidly evolve and be future-proofed.”
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The Big Themes:
- Heading back to the office: The pendulum is swinging back in the other direction, and B2B or B2C becoming artificial boundaries.
- That’s part of our DNA: We’re a company that’s built around the notion of flexibility – and we can talk about it from a fan’s perspective.
- The CIO’s role has changed: My role is a leader first, and a businessman second, and a technologist third.
- Maintaining a culture of care: People really want to be here and they deliver excellence. This is not soft and fluffy – this is really the hard stuff.
The Big Quotes:
“And if you want to talk about culture and relationships and partnerships, this'll be a 14 hour podcast.”
“We call them QuickFlex Walls and they can be assembled and disassembled in minutes, literally, with no tools, literally, and you can move them.”
“We essentially took about 70% of the people in this building and moved them to a different part of the building, and we do that a few times a year.”
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The Big Themes:
- Turnover in a post-pandemic world. It appears that we’re going to see a higher level of turnover in companies as we come out of the pandemic. A year of forced locked down, a strong economy emerging and a sense of “a need for change” is driving this increase turn over. This is both a problem as well as an opportunity for business leaders today.
- Industry cloud: Market transition or marketing hype? The major tech players are jockeying for position to dominate the emerging position of vertical industry clouds. This is far, far more than simply new marketing nomenclature and positioning.
- Manufacturing is the next big tech market. Reshoring, the Buy American Act, the Berry Amendment have accelerated investment in technology and a pent-up economy are creating a massive sustained resurgence in manufacturing.
- This is also creating a massive opportunity for tech vendors: Many of whom have yet to really understand the depth of the market opportunity that manufacturing represents today.
The Big Quotes:
“We have a division called Thomas Industrial Data – now that we're selling data into hedge funds and private equity firms.”
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The Big Themes:
- Tens of thousands of people working in our vertical business: They have deep vertical knowledge and apply to some of our horizontal products, like ERP and CX.
- General contractors and subcontractors: 88% of users are small- to medium-sized businesses that make up the contractor/subcontractor community. It’s an easy and painless way to go to a pure click technology.
- We announced a partnership with Microsoft: For Oracle and Microsoft, we have exactly these types of scenarios, and we have interoperability among the cloud – both on the horizontal and vertical level.
- Self-healing, self-securing, self-patching: I think when you put those things together, the application is fully autonomous.
The Big Quotes:
“Our [industry] cloud business today is bigger than our traditional [industry] license business.”
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The Big Themes:
- We launched the Cloud Database Report in February: Sign up now via the Cloud Wars website.
- Moving data to the cloud is more complicated than it seems: Will your next database migration project take one year, or one click?
- Snowball, Snowcone, Snowmobile: Snowmobile is an 18-wheeler. It’s a tractor trailer that they back up to your data container and upload a hundred petabytes at a time.
- InterSystems has been around for 40 years: They have deep expertise and proven technologies, and they’re expanding into new spaces.
The Big Quote:
“I think of Snowflake as the Robinhood of databases.”
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The Big Themes:
- Roaring 20’s redux: Fed Chair Jerome Powell said that the economy was at an inflection point: 6%-7% or more growth, and unemployment 4%-5%.
- Two books on strategy: “Post Corona: From Crisis to Opportunity,” by Scott Galloway. And “Strategy Beyond the Hockey Stick” (McKinsey).
- Technical debt can sink you: But a due diligence approach can save you. The Forbes article by Noah Barsky offers great insights—as do Wayne’s comments.
- Board governance of technology: A certified board of directors spends 5% on cybersecurity – and hardly a word on other technology risks or opportunities. The road to perdition!
The Big Quotes:
“How intense is the war for talent? My number one trend over the last 30, 45 days is this: recruiters—the people doing recruiting every day for search firms or manufacturers or high-tech firms—are being recruited themselves to help find great new talent.”
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The Big Themes:
- $5 billion building and rewriting modern cloud apps: In the last few years we’ve really had all the ingredients, the products, the market, the technology – and so we’ve pushed it hard.
- We’re private and extraordinarily well-funded: That’s actually given us an advantage on that front. We are truly thinking in decades.
- Last mile functionality, last mile content: The solutions have to be architected in a way to address an adjacent set of industries.
- One throat to choke: We’ll have our services teams to partner with Deloitte or Accenture, or a typical SI. We’re clearly a part of this and are answerable to any issues.
The Big Quote:
“It does feel like companies want a return on their investment a lot more quickly because they're facing much more material business issues and disruption.”
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The Big Themes:
- Pet peeves: Not every manager is a leader. When you need a leader but hire a manager, you quickly realize that you’ve either hired the wrong person, or the wrong team—and it’s usually the wrong person.
- A culture of fear: What kind of culture do you have? How are you leading and how do you assess whether you’re courageous or not. You have to embrace the notion that everybody in your organization is a leader.
- We teach the Marine Corps how to be a leader: In bootcamp, I remember standing at attention in a chow line about half a mile long reading the Marine Corps book on leadership. So leadership can definitely be learned.
- Jack Welch is a classic example of someone who led with intent: You do not have to agree with the intent. That's not the point of this, but he said we would be number one or number two in every single market or segment we participated in.
The Big Quotes:
“It's not a 60-minute meeting for crying out loud. We have enough of those in our days, right?”
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The Big Themes:
- We’re getting back to normal – which is awesome: But the markets are crazy and the blank check companies – or SPAC as they’re often called – are red hot.
- Private schools are expensive: Do you want to get that Gulfstream or not?
- These magical moments: A lot of these companies want to delight their customers. They absolutely do make these companies more efficient.
- There’s a bigger mountain over there: We’re looking over there and saying it’s a ton of fun right now.
The Big Quotes:
“I think they will both be fabulously successful – great companies that are here to stay.”
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The Big Themes:
- Manufacturing is hot again: In this country there’s a Renaissance, I love it because I joined Thomas four years ago with the idea it is going to get white hot again.
- The millennial generation: Young people in particular are starting to imagine what their future might look like, and what manufacturing provides for them that other technology doesn’t.
- The Dollar Shave Club: The technology enabled the ability to create a subscription business out of razors into a retail outlet of my brand of razor.
- If you're a horizontal player: At some point you’ve got to understand that your entry into a marketplace needs to be vertical.
The Big Quotes:
“So the idea that a computer company could be a car company and a car company could be a computer company is not a reach today. It's a reality.”
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The Big Themes:
- The appetite for industry solutions is expanding in a very big way: Speaking the language of our customers is key.
- AI becomes much richer: The key element is how do you imagine the whole thing using AI – including industry-specific data models, processes, and analytics.
- Industry-specific offerings: Partners and customers building on top of not only our 360 platform but also industry-specific clouds.
The Big Quotes:
“We have seen an immense need from our customers and we have responded in kind by building and acquiring these companies, which are based on top of our plan.”
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The Big Themes:
- Results based upon ~400 vetted project reviews: Completed by customers involved with the implementation of SAP, Oracle, and Workday within the past 24 months.
- On-budget delivery scores: As a rule of thumb, customers should figure on 1.5x the proposed amount for implementation.
- The team stayed the same – no changes: If you are like the majority of customers, your team is likely to change during the course of the project.
- Highest satisfaction for partner and project: SAP
- Highest satisfaction for software: Workday
- Most responsive during implementation: Oracle
The Big Quotes:
“All three vendors here are fairly neck and neck in terms of change orders.”
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The Big Themes:
- The business case for becoming a category creator in 2021: The “be different” category designers captured 51% of the revenue growth, and 80% of the market capitalization growth.
- Net worth of a typical White family is $171,000: Ten times greater than that of a Black family ($17,150). (Brookings)
- 10-second video clip just sold for $6.6M in “Non-Fungible Tokens” (NFTs): This selling of a piece of digital art has changed the future. A new category design could have profound implications.
- Netflix moves 2% of its cash toBlack-owned banks. Twitter, Costco, others join in; Netflix moves $100M. Where do you bank?
The Big Quotes:
“They're trying to move the world from one way to another way. They take big risks in doing it. They have to have a point of view.”
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The Big Themes:
- The economy is opening up: Are you ready? Businesses are developing new ways to delight customers and the federal government is about pump more capital into the market.
- Invest in capabilities to win: Cloud, ERP/CRM, collaboration tools, networks (5G/Starlink/SD-WAN), and teleoperations (AR/robotics/low-latency networks).
- How do you budget for IT? Old: Centralized as a fixed number percentage of sales. New: Business-unit led with tech purchases seen as business investments rather than “IT spending.”
- The ability to move faster is a hallmark of true digital transformation: It’s far more important that CEO/CFO/BoD unshackles the IT investment process than investing in any specific thing.
The Big Quotes:
“So the worst outcome is we’ve got a tiger by the tail and they're multiple tigers running off in multiple directions.”
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The Big Themes:
- We immediately solved all their networking and network security issues: Now we are enabling them to actually deploy – and now they’re looking at going beyond that first cloud and two or three other clouds.
- Aviatrix is the new Snowflake: Snowflake raised $1.4B. We’ve raised $150 million. The only reason people aren’t using Aviatrix now is they never heard of Aviatrix. That’s going to change.
- Power of visibility:The center of gravity is now moving to the cloud, and we need that level of visibility and control.
- A new leader is going to emerge: If you're not working with Aviatrix yet for your networking in the cloud, you need to call us.
The Big Quotes:
“I think we’re going to surpass Snowflake, because the network was the most important part of the stack.”
The Big Themes:
- Blending old and new communication channels: It’s that personal connection that we’re really pushing with many of our clients, and now we’re able to consult with several clients about their talent acquisition strategy.
- A huge passion: Moving a client from a passive to an active recruiting model is the right thing.
- Treating a candidate with respect: In the end when you turn them down, they still feel like you are someone that’s been their biggest advocate.
- Innovative and disruptive leader in HR: There are many out there today, and we’ve seen HR become more strategic.
The Big Quotes:
“There are companies out there that really have figured that out. Many of them are tiny or small companies, but they've just done it brilliantly.”
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The Big Themes:
- Digital question marks left and right: It’s the old BCG (Boston Consulting Group) matrix. Figuring out how to regenerate and develop their future cash cows.
- Everybody’s innovative: Most firms are incrementally innovative vs. transformationally innovative. To create this muscle allows me to keep up with the market.
- The path to extinction: The withering on the vine is pretty apparent. Can these leaders be bold enough to say the very things that take their companies down a different path?
- We started with this notion of the word: The word is “I.” An incredibly powerful word but where does “I” come from?
The Big Quotes:
“In terms of universal truth, this is one that struck me as something I've encountered quite a bit in the last number of weeks.”
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The Big Themes:
- No more looking in the rearview mirror: We’re talking about what we can do looking out at the front of the car, and how we can steer the car going forward.
- The CIO’s next adventure: You’ve done all the hard work to get yourself to a point where you can help these companies do this.
- Truly transformational business functions: We’re going through a transformation right now where we shift information from something that is relegated to the back office, to something that changes how each of these business functions work.
- How do we maximize revenue? How do we optimize lifetime value? And the reality is you've got to apply industry insights on top of that.
The Big Quotes:
“Be the person who's going to the board and wowing them with how this can transform your business.”
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The Big Themes:
- Keep it simple: Your projects are complex but you must be able to distill your progress into an executive summary that can be absorbed in a minute or less.
- Deliver the bad news as early as possible: Problems tend to snowball in these projects, so get them out in the open before they derail the project.
- Give ‘em the good news: Celebrate milestone successes and team members who made a difference. Showcase early impacts and user feedback.
- Do a post-mortem upon completion: Knowing that these projects never end, measure the final impacts versus the expectations of value going in.
The Big Quotes:
Mark Twain: “I was going to write you a short letter, but I didn't have time. So I wrote you a long one.”
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The Big Themes:
- Traditional on-premises databases to cloud databases: Gartner predicts that 75% of all databases will be deployed or migrated to the cloud by the end of next year.
- The terabyte transition:Go back 20 years ago and that was big data. Now it’s petabytes, exabytes, zettabytes, and yottabytes.
- Civil War times: Business intelligence has been using this since 1865. It’s still something that many businesses have not really mastered.
- Fast and furious: The Cloud Database Report can help everyone get a better sense of what’s happening across the market.
The Big Quotes:
“The cloud database report is available on Cloud Wars. There's no registration required, just go to Cloud Wars and you dig into the deep analysis that we're providing there.”
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The Big Themes:
- What does Remote 2.0 look like? As the world starts to open up what will office work look like? Many companies are announcing that they will offer remote work in perpetuity. Other companies have announced a choice between full-remote and a hybrid remote and office model.
- Commercial office leases are being severed at an astounding rate: But yet we also hear that there may be life left in the WeWork model, as companies will look to have a pared back office capability.
- The story of the COVID-19 pandemic:At some level it is a massive supply chain failure story. At the same time the story of the COVID-19 vaccines is a big data and analytics story. In both cases better use of advanced technology is the key theme.
- The automotive industry has become the electronics industry: Our data shows a remarkable increase in sourcing events for electronic components, sub-assemblies and related products and services.
The Big Quotes:
“And I think this idea of the customer experience is something that we've used a lot, but now it's becoming a North Star for many folks.”
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The Big Themes:
- Technical debt: If you write off $0.42 during a $100M bank reconciliation, I guess you created ‘financial debt,’ but so what? It’s the Enron’s of the tech debt realm that warrant attention.
- Whenever you don’t fix something: Technical Debt as a board level off-balance sheet issue is the systemic and long-term policy of neglecting your IT environment.
- Digital transformation: Just because it’s “digital” doesn’t make it transformative. Digital optimization is a good thing – it’s just not the same and distracts CEO/BoD’s.
- CEOs/Board of Directors: You need a translator to help keep the discussion flowing. Someone who can call BS on the “just ain’t so.”
The Big Quote:
“A CIO needs to be able to do all of those things. And then as their side job, keep all the tech plates spinning.”
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The Big Themes:
- Andy Jassy is now the CEO of Amazon: The force of nature that is Jeff Bezos is going to be executive chairman.
- Databricks and Snowflake are going neck-and-neck: Databricks closed a billion dollars of funding at a $28 billion valuation. That makes Snowflake look cheap!
- Oracle started the world’s greatest relational database: Oracle has spun out vertical solutions that can deliver impressive business value.
- Building a data lake or building a data swamp: The customers want to start getting business value from it, whatever it is.
The Big Quotes:
“The value proposition of the C-suite is we can take that data and change how your business runs to make it better, faster, and allow you to delight customers in new ways.”
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The Big Themes:
- Living up to the hype: Whether you’re talking about cloud applications, or cloud infrastructure, it’s a huge accelerator.
- Put it in a giant backpack: You just carry it over to the public cloud and empty it out. But if you’re a brand-new company with no legacy, that works pretty well because your backpack’s empty.
- It took 17 seconds for everyone to have a smartphone: The transition was easier – it was better. Everyone knows the cloud is better, but we’re at 15% market penetration.
- Not afraid of hard engineering problems: The thing about doing hard engineering is that when you get it wrong, it looks like a lot of egg on your face, but when you get it right, you build something truly magical.
The Big Quotes:
“That's our job. It's our responsibility. We've been that leader for 30 plus years. We need to be that leader now.”
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The Big Themes:
- The Autonomous Digital Enterprise (ADE): A roadmap for companies putting a lot of focus on providing solutions for customers, and to help them accelerate this with technologies such as AI.
- Immense amount of data: Successful companies have to figure out how to use this data and turn it into insights.
- We've been in business for over 40 years: We've partnered with our customers from different industry domains over the year, and we have a pretty in-depth understanding of many of the challenges that they face – and the opportunities as well.
- Optimistic and bullish on the future ahead of us: Last year was tough. But it taught us to pivot quickly and learned lessons that we took there that will make us stronger and more effective.
The Big Quotes:
“You're all in the technology business, regardless of what business you're in.”
The Big Themes:
- Know your why. Don’t do projects with unclear outcomes or that do not solve a defined business issue/goal. Digital transformation only works if there’s actually a business transformation.
- Integrations.They’re more important that you think, take longer and can be problematic. The less spaghetti, the less mess.
- Your team will make or break your success. Pick the best partner, project leader, and internal team for your project, and if you don’t have a solid executive sponsor, you’re fighting an uphill battle.
- Control what you can control. Before your project gets approved, start getting your house in order. Clean up bad data before you start your project. Make sure you have a way to manage your project systematically throughout.
The Big Quotes:
“Customers and vendors celebrate this idea of go-live, like yay! And they have cakes and they take pictures and isn't that great. But the reality is that's really when the work begins.”
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The Big Themes:
- Not so Unified Communications. As many/most companies have shifted to some version of remote work, we’re seeing both the benefits but also the limitations of video communications.
- Virtual culture: We’re nearing a year of virtual, remote work for many of us. Nurturing, supporting and reinforcing culture is challenging in the best of circumstances. Ironically working remotely is forcing companies to be more intentional about their culture, causing some to reassess their cultural attributes and beliefs, and how best to train, nurture, and harness them.
- 5G, Cloud, Mobile, and IIoT are converging: To create a massive market transition. This is most acutely true in manufacturing, where we’re already getting glimpses of the future. While the news is mostly focused on the consumer impact, the reality is the B2B impact may be even larger.
The Big Quotes:
“There's another dynamic that we don't focus on, but I think is playing a major role here. And that's the dynamic of the multi-generational workforce.”
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The Big Themes:
- Authentic dialogue is dying in America: Stanford Research shows us that people are caring more about themselves and less for others.
- Good conversationalist vs. “selfie”: Many people think the purpose of a discussion is to win. At one point changing your mind was called “learning.” Today it’s called flip-flopping.
- People are told to shout their story: Not to listen. Not to collaborate. Not to learn. Not to teach. Just “tell it.”
- We will either have civil discourse – or civil war: This is the time to elevate the value of authentic dialogue. In person. And online.
The Big Quotes:
“We talk to each other and if we're human beings, we sort it out, that's the best mechanism, just be human with each other.”
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The Big Themes:
- Last mile networking – down to last few feet: Data to/from the edge will skyrocket in quantity and in value.
- IT risk-awareness rises: Cybersecurity attacks are on the rise. Russia, China, Iran, etc. are going for third-party attacks on the US.
- 2021 is predicted to be the biggest job growth in history: Government stimulus will drive infrastructure and investment, and trigger a seller’s market for talent.
- Healthcare changes are massive: Tele-everything – talk, telemetry, teleoperation, and vaccines and other therapeutic drugs. And—at last!—doctors can practice across state lines.
The Big Quotes:
“If you’re a CEO, a board member, a C-suite executive, you've got to be ready to sense and respond faster than ever. You've got to be able to move faster and you've got to be able to take those leaps, and manage your risks better than you ever could.”
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The Big Themes:
- Shift in size, scope, and delivery: The pandemic has caused a shift from mega projects to more incremental work. Many large projects were put on hold and have been modified or scaled back.
- Systems integration market: Their world has been turned upside down with everyone working from home and travel restrictions. How are they coping?
- No customer conferences to “Press the Flesh”: All in-person events have been cancelled, which has made it difficult for smaller firms to get noticed.
- How have customer expectations changed: Systems integrators are so busy focused on challenging market conditions – and not focused on internal projects.
The Big Quotes:
“I think in 2021, the businesses that really stepped up this year are going to see the benefits next year, when things get back on track and we go back to some semblance of normal again.”
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The Big Themes: Wall Street/Main Street: The software sector had a great year. The markets didn’t correct. Main Street not so much – stores are boarded up and it’s a ghost town. Disney played this perfectly: Netflix and Disney are going head-to-head. Both companies have done well in 2020, but you’re going to see Disney outperform Netflix in 2021. Walmart and Amazon: Does Walmart really want to finance their number one competitor – and does Amazon want that too? Rockefeller, Standard Oil, and AWS: John D. Rockefeller fought hard not to have Standard Oil split apart, but the wealth creation that happened was huge.
The Big Quotes: “I still think Amazon needs to spin out AWS. It's crazy that they haven't yet.”
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The Big Themes:
- Process geeks rejoice! Reimagining business process is the next frontier: New technologies; especially in AI and Machine Learning are enabling a complete reimagining of business processes, way, way beyond simple process improvements. They hold the potential to catapult business performance but require new ways of thinking about business process and how employees work with technology.
- “Nothing can happen for decades. And then decades happen in weeks.” Quote attributed to Scottish MP George Galloway. The COVID-19 pandemic has radically and irrevocably accelerated pre-existing trends. Eight weeks after the pandemic reached US shores eCommerce grew to 27% of retail, which represents a decade of growth in eight weeks. In essence business leaders are now running against 2030 expectations. This has huge implications for business leaders across most every industry.
- The pandemic will create a revolution in healthcare: 99% of people accessed healthcare during the pandemic, without setting foot in a doctor’s office, much less a hospital. This forced embrace of telemedicine will drive an explosion of innovation and holds the potential to materially change the burdens of the beleaguered US healthcare system.
The Big Quotes:
“The data shows maybe I don't need to go to from point A to point B to point C. Maybe I just go from point A to point Z.”
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The Big Themes:
- The end of Silicon Valley: Elon Musk and Larry Ellison of Oracle are pulling up their tents and going to Texas.
- Eric Yuan, founder and CEO of Zoom: 2020 entrepreneur of the year: Eric Yuan. This one’s really obvious – he gave Zoom to the schools, and he had the biggest B2C growth stories in the history of the technology industry.
- Fender’s fabulous fret-filled adventure: Fender thought at the time that there would maybe be 100,000 people. The company set its sights on over 1,000,000 million people. Seven million PR impressions, 1,300 powerful stories, and 140 artists in social shares have resulted in a 150% increase in paid subscriptions.
- Don’t let them go on CNBC looking like a dork: The bottom line is to make your executives look good – not bad.
The Big Quotes:
“There's never been a greater time in history than right now – this moment right now to be in the information technology industry.”
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The Big Themes:
- Strategic planning: Strategic planning is a lot about what you want to do – but also about what you’re able to do.
- True cloud-native ERP: That includes business intelligence, low-code, data lake – and is different from old-style on-prem ERP. Clients who haven’t seen this are just getting used to it.
- 5G and other advanced networking: The bandwidth is terrific, but latency is the game changer for IoT apps, and other simplified “edge computing.”
- There are no stupid questions: If someone on CIO’s team makes a CEO or board member feel like he or she has asked a dumb question, get rid of that IT person.
The Big Quotes:
“How are you enabling? How are you empowering? How are you teaching them to think differently?”
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The Big Themes:
- General contractor and owner: Eternal truth: it all comes down to motivating people – from high-tech to one of the most basic human activities, which is building a home.
- Men and women in uniform: Military members and veterans are great leaders and achievers. Can be enormous assets to businesses looking for character, achievement, team players.
- Fear kills:The only thing that sells better than sex is fear. Fear of being left out, and fear of not being in the group.
- The wooly mammoth: Sorry to say but some companies are wooly mammoths from bygone era—they’ve got 2 legs in the tarpit and don’t even realize they’re doomed.
The Big Quotes:
“You can avoid a lot of the chaos by simply understanding what makes people tick, and how to get the very best out of people.”
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The Big Themes:
- Apple and a thousand Intel employees: The M1 chipset Apple wanted was a billion-dollar investment in 5G, which they did in 2019. Will Apple use M1 to go up against AWS?
- The 800-pound gorilla: Microsoft has a culture that looks less transactional and more collaborative. They are a Trojan Horse – and an 800-pound gorilla.
- Oracle and SAP are back at it again: They’re both creating elegant and powerful new apps for industry-specific solutions in what promises to be a huge new market.
- Transform the industry: How we can be business partners to transform healthcare, manufacturing, automotive, and mobility – and how to adjust those businesses over the next 12 to 18 months.
The Big Quotes:
“I literally can't come up with anybody other than potentially Jeff Bezos, who just wants to be CEO of this whole thing, who this isn't a win for spinning out AWS at this point.”
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We spoke with David Trice, Honeywell Forge Chief Product Officer and General Manager Connected Buildings, in a Cloud Wars Live Perspectives. Here is our conversation.
The Big Themes:
- Honeywell Forge: Enterprise performance management is bringing a new solution to the table – eliminating the barriers of complexity.
- Transforming into a software company: Honeywell is going to be a software company – and an industrial company.
- Mobile first software company: How you engage with the customer, how a building operates, how the supply chain operates, and what we do in the next step of our transformation.
- Reinventing everything: Honeywell’s business is to reinvent everything – from on-premise hardware driven-control systems to virtualized capability to digital transformation.
The Big Quotes:
“We understand, there's a lot of complexity. That's why we purpose-built Honeywell Forge to rethink the problem.”
The Big Themes:
- Mix of old school and new school: Know that there are different types of recruiters, just like there are different types of CXO executives and HR executives.
- The virtual employee: Bill Gates, Chairman and Founder of Microsoft is saying 50% of employees going forward will work from home – and 30% of office space will diminish.
- A huge gap in the industry: Bringing in diversity is a huge priority. Retaining talent so that they stay for 10 or 20 years is another goal.
- Looking ahead to 2021: The head of talent needs to be much more focused on earning the right to be a strategic partner and trusted advisor.
The Big Quotes:
“The head of talent acquisition really needs to have a seat at the table too.”
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The Big Themes:
- A project leader: Who has enough political capital to see the effort through to the end – and people who are culturally aligned with them.
- Projects with poor technology succeed because of great teams: Projects with great technology fail because of bad ones. You choose which one.
- An experienced technical person: One who’s deeply and intimately familiar with the product idiosyncrasies and pitfalls – and is willing to take that chance.
- Commitment: Project team members who can stay throughout the duration of the project – both from the systems integrator side and the customer side.
The Big Quotes:
“I'm from Chicago. You always think of Michael Jordan, but really, and truly that was Phil Jackson that I would call the project leader.”
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The Big Themes:
- Seeing a shift from hyper-specialization: What are the implications for recruiting, retaining, and developing talent in today’s market? Will the era of collaboration give way to a more structured approach to building teams and organizational structures?
- Digital transformation is blurring the boundaries between domains: Technology is asking questions about finance. Finance is asking questions about sales. Marketing is helping to define core financial metrics.
- In a world where everyone has access: Same data, and same information. What sources can leaders turn to seek an advantage?
- The role curiosity plays: Business success will grow exponentially in the next decade. Leaders can see the patterns and the connections between various disciplines and functions. And data sets will become highly prized.
The Big Quotes:
“I think Steve Jobs took a lot of inspiration from just the relentless curiosity that Walt Disney had.”
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The Big Themes:
- A sprint to the finish line: Digital transformation doesn’t just mean changes in our business models. We’re seeing a fundamental change in our culture.
- Truly engaging with customers: Not only you are benefiting yourself, but you are also benefiting others – and that’s true empathy.
- Seven and a half billion people on this planet: We all want to be happy, and that journey to happiness is not a bad thing.
- Amazon makes zillions of dollars with Prime: If they say it’s going to be delivered on November 6th, and it shows up on November 5th you go wow!
The Big Quotes:
“Ryanair CEO Michael O’Leary said, ‘If I had known that being nice to customers would have worked so well, I would have done it a lot sooner.’”
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The Big Themes:
- ServiceNow vs. IBM: The market cap of ServiceNow, with $4 billion in revenue, is closing in on that of IBM, which is a 115-year-old company with $75 billion in revenue! Meanwhile, Bill ServiceNow CEO Bill McDermott teams up with IBM to unleash AI on IT. Go figure!
- The markets continue to go up: The economy at large is finding its sea legs – but it’s always about the future.
- Let's figure out what customers want: Customers want solutions and they want solutions for the businesses that they're in, and the industries that they operate in.
- Not the dream job it once was: Young people feel that working at Facebook today is about as appealing at working for a tobacco company. For top students at Carnegie Mellon, the dream job is with Elon Musk’s SpaceX.
The Big Quotes:
“It’s impossible to imagine a CEO on the golf course at Augusta saying, ‘I really need to fix my cloud infrastructure, but I don't really care as much about my ERP solution.’ That’s just not how they think!”
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The Big Themes:
- His grandfather Jack and father-in-law Phil: Jack served in World War II, and Phil in Korea. Both served and fought—and lost too many friends—so that we wouldn’t have to.
- How is it possible that the internet didn’t blow up?: No industry in history has been tested like the tech industry. Our IT professionals are heroes.
- The worst cyberattacks in history: Massive security breaches, but the cloud worked to become an essential service, and data became an essential service.
- So many companies were able to migrate millions of workers: According to Stanford researchers 42 percent of the US labor force is now working at home full-time.
The Big Quote:
“We have a hundred percent volunteer military, and it's not like we pay them millions of dollars a year. These people are not Bill Gates or Jeff Bezos.”
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The Big Themes:
The power of trust:We’re trying to create a better experience – for our customers, our partners, and our employees. But navigating that trust is all-important.
Avoiding the creepy factor: Tech companies who are applying this technology have to be very careful of how they leverage it.
An actual video avatar:We understand that the computer’s not real – but if it comes in as a projected human, we respond to it in that way.
Virtual agents and the customer experience: A core element of platforms across the spectrum, virtual agents are here to stay.
The Big Quotes:
“When I sit on some of these briefings with technology companies that are demoing some of this new technology, it's staggering, it’s mind blowing.”
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For this sponsored episode of Cloud Wars Live, I spoke with Anthony Brooks-Williams, CEO of HVR. As a cloud provider of data-replication and data-integration solutions, HVR takes hybrid to the next level.
The Big Themes:
- People are taking a digital approach to their businesses: Where are they sending that data? They're typically sending it to the cloud.
- HVR had the best quarter ever: It was a wow moment. And Q1 is looking even better for them.
- Data is the lifeblood of corporations: Whether the challenge is operational efficiencies, inventory management, or better communication with their customers, more companies across multiple industries are turning to HVR for their hybrid data. HVR’s customer include some of the world’s largest corporations.
- HVR helps connect the dots to help leaders lead: What kind of data do companies want? What is the strategy? Ultimately it gets driven down from the top.
The Big Quotes:
“It's constantly evolving because customers’ expectations are rapidly changing.”
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The Big Themes:
- Cool technology, but: You don’t want AI bots running your show. Many companies are defaulting too quickly to technology. “Old-fashioned” personal engagement is essential.
- Looking for the rising star: Companies want aggressive young talent that they can mold into the leaders of tomorrow.
- Companies are not giving them the chance:Because companies have employees with more practical experience, they’re not getting younger people into the fold.
- You’ve got to do your own homework: Your LinkedIn profile and your social media sites are important. But you need some coaching with your manager or other friends and then tailor your resume to specifically do those things.
The Big Quote:
“I believe in relationships. I believe in market intelligence, I believe in competitive intelligence.”
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The Big Themes: • Metrics that matter: As the ability to track most anything as “data” accelerates, there’s a lag between technology’s ability to capture data and people’s ability to understand the data, spot patterns – and more importantly act on it. • Are millennials negatively impacted by WFH? The young generation of managers will have a gap in their learning curve based on not being able to regularly interact with their peers, mentors, and industry face-to-face. • Leading in times of crisis: These are very unique times for leaders, and perhaps the best approach is to.... • Focus on your True North: What are the needs of my customer? How are those needs changing? What do my employees need to adapt, to succeed, to excel? What is my company’s new opportunity? And how do we make money with that?
The Big Quote: “I think it's a time for leaders to make sure that they're calibrating their aggression and taking advantage of these opportunities.”
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The Big Themes: • Good, fast, or cheap – you can only pick two: Don’t shortchange your project results by not investing enough in user training and adoption activities. • Garbage in – garbage out: There’s a reason you’re changing systems, and it’s easy to think that a new user interface will make it easy to clean up old information. Not so! • Pick the best team: Make sure that the team you meet in the sales process is the same team that will stay with you during implementation. • Big bang rarely works: The big-bang approach results in an implementation that has a positive and lasting impact. Most customers wish they’d been more patient and measured with the schedule.
The Big Quote: “The partner is really the one that is going to help make or break the success of the software that you purchased.”
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The Big Themes: • Microsoft told 160,000 employees: You have the permanent right to work from home. All the big tech companies are starting to adapt because a lot of their workers can work from anywhere. Huge implications for every type of business. • Apple will evangelize 5G. The new wave of iPhones will help millions of businesspeople grasp the significance and power of 5G without having to understand the technical details behind this extraordinary technology. • “Augmented” Reality becoming “Regular” Reality? As more of this powerful new technology becomes commonplace, it will expand our perception of what’s “real”—and it will seem normal, not the stuff of sci-fi. Are you ready? • CXOs who refuse to understand technology are doomed to fail. Doesn’t matter how old you are or what your early experiences were with IT—no CXO can expect to succeed unless she or he has a deep and ongoing sense of how technology can drive new levels of business value.
The Big Quote: “When you put in your technology 10, 20, 30, or 40 years ago you’ve stopped maintaining it.”
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The Big Themes:
• The power of the network effect: Will it trigger next wave of M&A for software companies?
• A crisis is a terrible thing to waste: This crisis has been a great accelerant – and now the question is can you take advantage of that accelerant.
• Tech addiction: What’s happening across society right now is around tech addiction. There is a right way and there is a wrong way – which do you choose?
• Pets.com was way too early: The Super Bowl commercial in 2001 was the demise of pets.com. Actually, the idea was perfect—but the timing was brutally wrong. There’s a big lesson in that for all of us today.
The Big Quotes:
“Three cell phones that can't talk to each other don't really have any value by themselves. It's the ties between the three that become valuable.”
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The Big Themes: • Home projects vs. digital transformation projects: There are going to be challenges along the way—here’s how to keep calm and soldier on! • Embrace the disruption: Enjoy the journey. In the end, is you’ll be able to see the full value of the project. • Prepare to be annoyed: There are times you are going to be annoyed with your software vendor for certain things – but stay focused on the larger goal. • Pursue the gain, get over the pain: Bonnie has some customers who say it was twice as much time as they thought – and a lot more expensive than they thought – but they still rated the project as excellent.
The Big Quote: “If they're going to be impactful to your business, they're going to be big and complicated – and there are going to be challenges along the way.”
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The Big Themes: • Cheaper, faster, better: Technology is making all of our companies much more agile. And that’s what’s allowing all our companies to reshore. • Great jobs in manufacturing: There are great jobs out there, but people don’t seem to be taking them – perhaps because they are what Tony calls “new collar jobs” and people aren’t ready for them. • The gift of speed: CEO Marc Benioff of Salesforce says the big thing customers ask him for is the gift of speed. • Renaissance in apprenticeships: In the US there are more and more trade schools, but we’re still catching up with the rest of the world. For countries like Germany and others the idea of apprenticeships is a big deal.
The Big Quote: “You look at Apple, you look at Amazon, you look at the most valuable – or at least perhaps the second most valuable car company in the world, Tesla. They’re all manufacturers.”
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The Big Themes: • The new, new normal – and the new abnormal. How many meetings have we had where somebody had a cat sitting on their head? • CIOs must drive speed, flexibility and innovation across their companies—Sense and Adapt at warp speed! • REI just built a huge new headquarters – and they’re never going to occupy it. The notion of work, is changing and we have to get used to it. • Not so long ago, a mainframe was lowered by a helicopter into the 35th Floor of an NYC bank building. At the time, it was pretty much normal. Now you have Amazon, Microsoft, Google, and Oracle to do it for you. • Wayne Sadin is #2 on the Rise Global “IT Leader Power 100” list. “When you outgrow your IT strategy, call me!”
The Big Quote: “I am a believer in science. I’m a believer in engineering. I believe in the human spirit.”
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The Big Themes: • Six months ago, would anyone on the planet believe that 20% of incoming Harvard freshmen would defer? Great example of the crazy times we’re in! • Sean’s message to those and other would-be college freshmen choosing to take a gap year: “Why don’t you spend that time starting your own business?” The course and content Sean’s developing for that are drawing a great deal of interest. • Disney purchasing TikTok makes a lot of sense – even Twitter purchasing TikTok makes a lot of sense. But Oracle or Microsoft? Crazy! • Ten years ago, when Oracle founder Larry Ellison bought Sun Microsystems, some people thought it was a brilliant move, but many that it was insane. But TikTok is the next level of crazy!
The Big Quote: “TikTok is an incredibly popular social media platform, especially for the very young demographic.”
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The Big Themes: • Bob poses the challenge: “My CFO is a real hard ass, and I think he or she is gonna really put me through the ringer. How do I turn her/him into a passionate advocate?” • On big projects, you have to put your best people on top. Assigning an average person to lead a project you are calling “essential” is a sure sign you’re not fully committed. • An emotional appeal and an aspirational appeal to the CEO and the CFO: Help me help you make the company better! It has to be personal as well as data-driven. • There's always going to be some bumps in the road. But if you have the right framework in place, you’re going to avoid those unexpected twists and turns.
The Big Quote: “It's not even just getting at parity, you want to do something that's truly groundbreaking.”
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The Big Themes: • Taken as directed, you should see a change in your digital transformation in a few weeks – as long as you read the message on the bottle. • It seems like a parlor trick, but with a facsimile of “Bob Evans” people can use AI and not have any idea that you’re an algorithm. • As a master storyteller and as digital leader you need to be crafting a vision of the future – and you need to get it right. • The movie “I Robot” is more prescient than you think. Maybe you should invite the hologram for Happy Hour; they’re great coworkers and not at all judgmental.
The Big Quote: “And that's what I encourage every digital leader to be. They need to be a futurist.”
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The Big Themes:
- The industrial sector realizes customer service is not enough—customer experience is the new priority.
- Everybody codes: some business executives are finding that a base level of coding expertise is helpful in steering digital strategy.
- Data literacy is rising across all job functions – being able to manipulate and analyze data is becoming a core competence.
- Where data makes a difference: today, only one in 10 molecules developed by the pharmaceutical industry ever make it out of clinical trials and into the marketplace.
- It's a wasted opportunity for online learning to be nothing more than a video image of a professor lecturing away. (Tony was raised by academics so he is a huge fan of higher education.)
The Big Quote:
“Apple is one of the most valuable manufacturers in the world, and so are Microsoft, Google, and Amazon.”
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The Big Themes: • If you’re a CEO, CFO, CIO, or board member – how “natural” and “normal” are your video meetings? Some suggestions on excellent and inexpensive gear to optimize effectiveness of video meetings. • You wouldn’t fly on a cropduster to meet a big client in person—so don’t use crappy video/audio gear to meet them online. • Embrace the OODA Loop: fighter pilot Colonel John Boyd invented the notion of an OODA loop – we Observe, we Orient, we Decide, we Act. That’s an ideal model for today’s sense-and-respond world. • As budget season approaches, some helpful hints on how to strategically set IT budgets to align with our always-on digital world.
The Big Quote: “So over the years, I've amassed a whole bunch of toys that helped me work in what used to be airports. I remember airports.”
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For this episode of Cloud Wars Live, I talked with Oliver Schabenberger, EVP, COO, CTO at SAS.
The Big Themes:
· SAS and Microsoft have an important strategic partnership. Microsoft’s mission is to empower every person and every organization. SAS’ vision is to transform the world of data into a world of intelligence.
· Digital transformation combined with increased connectivity is driving how to automate and simplify. The deluge of data is all about that.
· It's always a technology problem – but it's never just a technology problem. It's a technology, people, and process problem.
· Dr. Goodnight, the CEO and founder, will make no layoffs or furloughs during the pandemic, and that will never change.
The Big Quote:
“What we're seeing right now is a growth of data in two places – in the cloud and on the edge.”
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The Big Themes:
· The New York Times ad begins, “Dear Microsoft, big news and congratulations on today’s announcements. We’re genuinely excited to have some competition.”
· The ad reeks of arrogance. And Slack is saying to the European Union, “it’s just not fair the way Microsoft is treating us.”
· It’s time for Slack to be part of a different enterprise company, and maybe it’s Oracle, Salesforce – or maybe Microsoft will have pity on them and gobble them up.
· The cloud space is only going to get more interesting over the next 12 months, as we rush to reinvent these industries and businesses and reimagine them.
· Slack and Microsoft Teams are not anywhere near the same. Sean says, “when I get a link from a company that I’m working with, I grimace. It’s an absolutely terrible product.”
The Big Quote:
“The sad reality is Slack is worth more inside somebody else's enterprise today than it is alone.”
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The Big Themes:
· It’s a great time to connect with your customers and employees. Try new ideas, try innovation, try creativity, and don’t waste these opportunities.
· Jamming 300 people into the same footprint is a myth. There’s not a shred of evidence that the open office makes people more productive.
· Bill McDermott, CEO of ServiceNow said there will be times some people choose to work remotely – with childcare, parents, etc. – and sometimes you need to use the office as a “productivity tool.”
· Thomas.net is now in the fourth wave of a monthly survey, and a surprising number of manufacturers are reshoring back to North America.
· This is going to reshape global manufacturing for decades to come – and not just the areas we think about.
The Big Quote:
“What we're seeing is more robust hiring than we would have anticipated. Close to 40% of the companies are actually hiring right now.”
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The Big Themes:
· Empathic design is creating a level of engagement for both your employees and your customers so that you are now listening to their needs.
· William Gibson wrote a book called “Neuromancer,” and was fond of saying, “The future is here, it’s just not evenly distributed.”
· You may not have empathy, you may not be able to feel the emotions of people you’re serving, and you may not put yourselves in their shoes – but there are ways to solve that.
· A reporter said to Steve Jobs when the iPad came out, how did you know this? And he said, “Our task is to read things that are not yet on the page.”
The Big Quote:
"The rigidity of all this structure, which was vital in the industrial age, is becoming this albatross around our necks.”
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The Big Themes:
· There are bottlenecks in the process, the wheels fall off, and the scope keeps changing – this is hard work!
· 85% of the time you’re going to be working with the SI partner and not the software vendor themselves –as in SAP, Oracle, Workday, etc.
· With rapid deployment you’re not going to get an army of consultants. You’re going to get fewer people – and they’re going to be cross-functional.
· Bonnie answers a “Quick Quiz” on how the customer has to have the right expectations, and has to free up the resources to get the job done.
· She compares this to a marathon: If you hit a wall at mile 18 it will be bad. But if you’ve done the training ahead of time, it’s going to be amazing.
The Big Quote:
“You really want to have confidence that the people leading the process have been there, done that, and done it successfully.”
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The Big Themes:
· A billion knowledge workers on the planet, and a quarter to half of us are working from home
· The future is not guaranteed to us, our innovations not guaranteed to us, human rights are not guaranteed to us. Our founders expected the citizenry would be much more involved.
· What happens to the travel industry, the leisure industry, and caterers, etc.? Where will they all go?
· Two million residents of New York City could permanently move out of the city – and they are moving to rural Colorado, Oregon, Maine, and Vermont
· Mark Benioff, the CEO of Salesforce, has the tallest building in San Francisco – and he has been powerful, courageous, and a very visible leader
· Apple’s got the greatest UFO ever invented – what happens to it?
The Big Quote: “Silicon Valley is no longer a place – it’s an idea.”
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· Who needs to wear a suit?
· Digital transformation is rethinking your products, your markets, your customer experience
· Why are you running a million row Excel spreadsheet?
“The efficiency game is an anchor around your neck that's going to sink you.”
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Each month, “Ammirati on Innovation” episodes will look at ways that the disruptive-startup mentality is spreading beyond young entrepreneurs to big established corporations. Serial entrepreneur, venture capitalist and Carnegie Mellon B-school professor Sean Ammirati, who sits at the intersection of these high-change dynamics, provides insight. In this podcast, Sean and I talk about how long it will take until we get the economy back up and moving again.
Episode 14
Reimagining our companies is on Sean’s mind. We need to figure out what the right innovation strategy is. The world is going to be very different, and you need to build new products, new services, and new value to your customers. And companies need to do all that more rapidly and with more commitment than ever before.
The notions of courage, commitment and vision in the face of daunting threats have been with us forever. I mention to Sean one of my favorite poems: “Horatius at the Bridge” by Thomas Babington Macaulay describes how Horatius steps forward to do what others believe is impossible as the Etruscan army is about to invade. The specific form of the challenges faced by people change over time, but the need for powerful and fearless leadership is a constant.
Sean concludes with revisiting your operational plan, and how you’re investing in your assets this year. In this time of crazy transition and transformation, that’s all we have.
Also in this episode:
· Steve Jobs and Corning Gorilla Glass
· Work from home forever!
· A magical time for your business
· The mirror is much closer than it appears
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Bonnie Tinder is the founder and CEO of a company called Raven Intel (www.ravenintel.com), and it’s an independent B2B peer review site that is amplifying the voice of the customer. She focuses on software customers, consulting partners, and software vendors, and picks the best partners for their needs. In this new monthly series called “Tinder on Customers,” Bonnie and I talk about how not all partners are created equal, and choosing the right one is critical to a project’s success.
Episode 1:
Bonnie thinks that COVID-19 was a massive reset. The digital transformation projects that were happening prior to March were clipping along and life was good. And then wham! Big projects were taken down, and every single company changed their scope.
I tell her that Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella has gone through two years of digital transformation in the past two months. Hear her answer.
Bonnie concludes with the need to have a connection with customers and employees, and the necessity to reinvent yourself from the ground up. Businesses who were forward-thinking and had a presence were the ones who came out on top.
Also in this episode:
· No industry has been immune to this disruption
· A curveball is okay – but when you’re expecting a fastball you’d better be resilient at the plate
· Marie Kondo – let’s get rid of the things that no longer serve us
· This is going to crush some businesses
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Each month, Tony Uphoff, visionary CEO of Thomasnet.com, joins Cloud Wars Live for a recurring segment. “Uphoff on Industry” will explore the innovations, upheavals, and breakthroughs reshaping the world of manufacturing and industrial markets. In this episode, Tony and I probe how it’s been like to be in a social media and pandemic world.
Tony starts off with Facebook and the monetization of rage that you see on social platforms, and the systemic racism in the US. In the sixties, you had a print-based world, and a television-based world – and that’s it.
Tony quotes Stephen Stills, “Something’s happening here.” I say, “What it is ain’t exactly clear.” These young people are going to grow up with a set of expectations – and some of the more seasoned folks think it’s almost an instant disruption.
I joke with Tony that my black t-shirt is a 40-year-old vintage item. Tony says that my sartorial splendor and food choices are deeply troubling.
We conclude with it’s a time for listening. Try to understand what is happening and don’t be too quick to volunteer opinions. It’s a very scary time and you see a lot of false positives and negatives.
Also in this episode:
· Employees are saying, “I’m good thanks – I’ll stay right at home”
· Microsoft’s CEO Satya Nadella: two years of transformation crammed into two months
· Everyone in the world is paying attention to Zoom
· Email is the Rodney Dangerfield of digital platforms
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“Sadin on Digital” episodes explore the fast-changing and high-stakes world of digital business. In this discussion, Wayne and I talk about how modern ERP has changed, and if the board and C-Suite executives are not aligned with you through thick and thin, things will go badly.
Wayne talks about how the scariest three letter word in the English language is ERP (enterprise resource planning). He talks to board members and C-Suite executives about ERP, and he listens to them when they say it’s going to cost more, it’s not going to work, and it’s going to take forever. But that’s not the case. You can get an ERP in the cloud for a fraction of the cost.
In his final thoughts, Wayne discusses how if you’ve got a typical 20-year old software suite that’s discombobulated and disconnected – and half your business runs on Excel spreadsheets, you’ve got a problem. Modern ERP has all the resources for AI, IoT, mixed reality, drones, sensors, edge computing, and advanced analytics – and you should use them!
Also in this episode:
· Chesterton’s Fence: Never take a fence down until you know why it was put up
· You want a person who has the scars and the gray hair
· IBM coined the term material requirements planning (MRP), which begat ERP
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Each month, Charles Araujo joins Cloud Wars Live for a recurring segment known as “Araujo on Transformation.” Charlie is a bestselling author who has three books to his name: “The Quantum Age of IT,” “The Ecosystem Advantage,” and “Performance-driven IT.” He is also an engaging speaker who will entertain and challenge your audience. Charlie has a website called www.charlesaraujo.com, and another called “The Institute for Digital Transformation.” In this episode, Charlie and I talk about the cataclysmic year we’ve been having, and the fact that the environment is constantly shifting.
Episode 4:
Charlie talks about how he wrote an article called the “Digital Enterprise Readiness Framework,” and it was tied to the idea of resiliency – and how pleased he was that there were a number of executives who had their business continuity plan (BCP) at the ready.
He goes on to say that none of us are going to forget the year 2020. It has been a cataclysmic series of events. But a business continuity plan is designed to absorb the shock – be it pandemic, a terrorist attack, or a natural disaster.
We conclude with what he calls the imagination gap – only it’s not just one thing, it’s two things. The first one is fear, and the second one is ignorance.
Also in the episode:
- How to create a resilient organization
- Compensation models are still tied to the old world
- Creativity is from the top down
- The beatings will continue until morale improves
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Each month, “Lochhead on Different” episodes explore the need to differentiate people, products, and services in a world that encourages a lot of imitation. Christopher Lochhead is a best-selling author, top podcaster, and former tech-industry CMO. In this episode, Chris and I talk about recent episodes of horrible violence exacting terrible tolls on families, communities, and this entire country.
As always, Chris shares thoughtful and powerfully voiced views. In this episode, he weaves together the senseless murders of two Americans – George Floyd and Santa Cruz Sheriff's Dept. Sergeant Damon Gutzwiller – and the agony and anger each has triggered.
Chris also relates a deeply personal story of the kidnapping and murder last year of his best friend – and of the relentless efforts of law enforcement to track down the 4 "unspeakably evil" killers. Echoing the view of most Americans, Chris says that while there are certainly some awful police officers, most law-enforcement officers perform an extremely difficult job in an honorable fashion.
We discuss the separate but related tributes Chris participated in, and cried in, for George Floyd and for Sgt. Gutzwiller, and profess our belief that it is time for good people of all backgrounds to stand together.
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Each month, “Ammirati on Innovation” episodes will look at ways that the disruptive-startup mentality is spreading beyond young entrepreneurs to big established corporations. Serial entrepreneur, venture capitalist and Carnegie Mellon B-school professor Sean Ammirati, who sits at the intersection of these high-change dynamics, provides insight. In this episode, Sean and I talk about business model transformation and how Microsoft and FedEx are reimagining the world.
Episode 13
Sean talks about how we’ve gotten to a point where companies have made 80% of the investment they needed to in digital transformation (but he thinks they’ve gotten about 20% of the value from that investment). Business model transformation is not just making experiences more efficient and making your supply chain run a little smoother, but actually completely turning your businesses into digital-first models.
Taking a turn, Microsoft and FedEx are partnering to combine the scale of the global digital logistics network of FedEx with the power of Microsoft’s intelligent cloud. Businesses will have an unprecedented level of control into the global movement of goods.
Concluding, Sean says that we need to start looking at how do we take this situation that we're all in and use it to make our companies better, stronger, and more vibrant. We owe it to our employees, we owe it to our customers, and we owe it to our shareholders.
Also in this episode:
· The hen and the pig – no such thing as a merger of equals
· Joint AI innovation between Microsoft and Novartis
· Workday and Salesforce: Perfect together
· Is it a V-shaped recession, or a U-shaped recession?
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Each month, Charles Araujo joins Cloud Wars Live for a recurring segment known as “Araujo on Transformation.” Charlie is a bestselling author who has three books to his name: “The Quantum Age of IT,” “The Ecosystem Advantage,” and “Performance-driven IT.” He is also an engaging speaker who will entertain and challenge your audience. Charlie has a website called www.charlesaraujo.com, and another called “The Institute for Digital Transformation.” In this episode, we talk about how senior management has to step up to the plate and solve the customer experience.
Episode 3:
Charlie has been a fan of design thinking for years. It’s putting the customer at the center of everything you do. It’s about solving problems – and solving them empathetically from the perspective of your customer.
He names companies that have some arcane backend processes that have him hanging up the phone and canceling his trip. How many times have we been frustrated because we’re pulling our hair out? (Although he’s bald.)
Concluding, he talks about how it’s going to fundamentally change the way we experience design thinking. If you’re a leader of an organization, or a leader of a tech company, you need to come to this with a degree of humility.
Also in this episode:
· Design thinking vs. systems thinking
· Working permanently from home
· People love and need connection
· A futurist is someone who has seen the world turned upside down
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Each month, Tony Uphoff, visionary CEO of Thomasnet.com, joins Cloud Wars Live for a recurring segment. “Uphoff on Industry” will explore the innovations, upheavals, and breakthroughs reshaping the world of manufacturing and industrial markets. In this episode, we’re discussing how this is going to impact your business big-time – but maybe you can pivot to something else and become more agile.
Episode 14
Going into our 12th week of the pandemic (seems like forever), 33 million Americans have lost their jobs – and there is more hardship to come. Tony says there are entire segments of industries going away overnight, but the rollercoaster ride – and the emotional impact of that – is maybe getting a little less scary.
Convention centers aren’t opening up anytime soon. The core value of a trade show is connecting buyer and seller, meeting prospects, and spending time with customers. What can replace that experience? He gives an answer (hint: nobody needs to fly, and nobody gets too drunk the night before).
The Grateful Dead is on Tony’s mind, and he quotes the lyrics by the late, great Robert Hunter. “Sometimes the light’s all shining on me. Other times I can barely see. Lately, occurs to me, what a long strange trip it’s been.” That’s the era we’re living in right now.
Also in this episode:
· 75% of critical medications are not made in this country
· The best data analytics package is not going to give you the answer
· Titles and certifications are meaningless
· Bill McDermott, CEO of ServiceNow says, “We’re going to come out of this stronger.”
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Peter Steube, managing director of Enterprise Technology Research (ETR), will join us each month to discuss enterprise-IT buying trends among big-company CIOs and IT decision-makers around the world. ETR (www.etr.plus) has developed an extensive database of IT buying tendencies over the past 10 years, and tracks whether those buyers are likely to buy more, hold steady, or buy less from specific IT vendors. In this episode, Peter and I discuss how cybersecurity is increasingly top of mind for enterprises globally.
Episode 3:
It’s very important to stay protected from cybersecurity threats when you’re moving from a work at home environment or a remote infrastructure environment. Many companies are increasing their spend on Azure, AWS, and Google – which are the three primary public cloud providers.
Citing other cybersecurity vendors, like SailPoint, Okta, and CyberArk, he also includes a few companies called CloudFlare, Fastly, and Zscaler.
Finally, Peter talks about the three uncertainties in life, death, taxes – and fourth, good spending data on Microsoft. He thinks that Microsoft Azure is going to continue to win over AWS and Google.
Also in this episode:
· Company CEOs are holding their spend steady
· Salesforce strengthened its overall spending intentions
· Digital transformation initiatives have become a part of life
· Zoom vs. Microsoft Teams vs. Slack
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Each month, “Lochhead on Different” episodes explore the need to differentiate people, products, and services in a world that encourages a lot of imitation. Christopher Lochhead is a best-selling author, top podcaster, and former tech-industry CMO. In this episode, we delve into human agency and the people who created the future – including the woman who created the wheel.
Episode 13
Chris and I discuss how in December a lot of companies had just completed their best year, and were heading into what they thought was even a better year. In January, the economy was on fire – near record lows in unemployment. Then February starts getting a little spooky, and when March hits, BAM! everything changes.
Restaurants, bars, airlines, hotels, etc. are going to open back up, but the question is how do we do it safely? Chris thinks the agenda is very clear right now. How do we save the maximum lives and protect people as effectively as we know how, and how do we build a strong America and strong global economy?
Concluding, Chris says the future is ours to choose. Get involved in your communities, and get involved in the trajectory of your company.
Also in this episode:
· Nine percent of companies didn’t simply recover three years after a recession – they flourished
· Human beings have agency, and can create the future
· He quotes the Dude in the “Big Lebowski,” “This aggression (recession) will not stand, man”
· The real heroes are the healthcare workers, retail workers, and supply chain workers
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This episode is brought to you by RSA Security.
For this sponsored Cloud Wars Live conversation, I speak with Mignonette Silot-Chang, VP of Human Resources for RSA Security. Mignonette and I talk about how we are under unprecedented times, and how her employees across the globe have displayed incredible resiliency, and have been able to adapt very quickly. In Silot-Chang’s opinion, this crisis presents leaders a great opportunity to demonstrate empathy, patience, and understanding.
Companies are going to come out of this in two ways – those who embraced the new norm will come out closer and more collaborative – and others will be more fractured because they didn’t lean into the opportunity.
The days of traveling week after week for in-person meetings or conferences may be a thing of the past – although there is always a need for face-to-face interaction. Mignonette sees more companies embracing the notion of a flexible workplace – and how video conferencing might be the go-to plan in the future.
RSA Security belongs to the family of Dell Technologies.
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“Sadin on Digital” episodes explore the fast-changing and high-stakes world of digital business. Wayne Sadin and I focus on digital transformation, and what it means to put technology first. Today, we look at Wayne’s suggestions across various industries of what it means to put your product, your culture, and your market – and what your business is going to look like.
In this episode, Wayne and I discuss how “horizontal” subways and “vertical” elevators are going to fall from favor. It’s a lot easier and for some, less stressful to take a bus, a private car – or even a bicycle. Wayne predicts that people are going to move away from big cities like New York, San Francisco, Paris, London – and move into the suburbs and exurbs.
Most of Wayne’s clients have worked from the home environment pretty seamlessly; business as usual. A lot of executives who said, “Never, I’m not going to put up with it,” are now realizing it may not be so bad.
We also explore how telemedicine is revolutionizing the industry. You can sit in front of a screen and a doctor is monitoring your smartwatch, smart ring, arm sensor, implanted insulin device – and all that telemetry and edge computing and IoT is now feeding back to a sensor suite.
Also in this episode:
· Why are we running out of toilet paper?
· We have more sensors, IoT, edge computing, and robotics, than there ever were before
· Why a doctor in Texas can’t treat a patient in Oklahoma
· People dying of COVID-19 also have heart problems, obesity, smoking, and other comorbidities
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This episode is brought to you by Oracle.
For this sponsored Cloud Wars Live conversation, I talk with Bruno Aziza, Group Vice President, AI Data Analytics Cloud at Oracle. Bruno takes us through his conversations with customers. He asks a very simple question: What can we do to help customers innovate at scale?
The Oracle Analytics Summit will kick off on May 12th. This is a free event and Oracle has designed the experience without a registration password, and without a paywall.
Schneider Electric, FedEx, GE, Outfront Media are all part of the summit. Bruno says last year the Oracle Analytics Summit had three keynote speakers – and this time Oracle has six.
Finally, Bruno says, the Oracle Analytics Summit is not the beginning; it goes on forever until Oracle has really solved all the problems related to analytics. So, he says, customers should participate, engage, and provide his team with feedback.
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Each month, “Ammirati on Innovation” episodes will look at ways that the disruptive-startup mentality is spreading beyond young entrepreneurs to big established corporations. Serial entrepreneur, venture capitalist and Carnegie Mellon B-school professor Sean Ammirati, who sits at the intersection of these high-change dynamics, provides insight.
Episode 12
In this episode: Sean says founders are some of the most creative and innovative people. They have a combination of intellectual courage that makes them pretty remarkable. He says Larry Ellison of Oracle, Larry Page and Sergey Brin of Google, and Mark Zuckerberg are the Mellons and Carnegies of this generation.
Sean says a crisis is a terrible thing to waste. He says he’s seeing it across his companies. These are businesses that he has investments in and it’s created real tailwinds.
Sean says Disney+ had a great quarter – and now they are catching up to Netflix. But Disney’s core theme parks are another issue.
Sean says airline companies have taken all of their profits and plowed them into stock buybacks. He says that puts them in a very weak position. Sean thinks that transportation is less important than it was before – and we’ll figure out a way to do it remotely.
He says SurfAir is a great example. They flew from regional airports, and he had a number of colleagues who were just fanatics about the SurfAir experience. But, he says, are we going to travel on airplanes are some point? He suspects they will.
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Each month, Tony Uphoff, visionary CEO of Thomasnet.com, joins Cloud Wars Live for a recurring segment. “Uphoff on Industry” will explore the innovations, upheavals, and breakthroughs reshaping the world of manufacturing and industrial markets. Join Tony and me as we discuss disruptive new trends in the digital-industrial world. These include how we design, source and manufacture products. And also the new ways in which industrial companies are getting up to speed on marketing, sales and customer experience.
Episode 13
In this episode, Tony says Thomas made a full pivot for about 350 employees spread across two locations – one in New York City, and one in Horsham, PA. He says the first step was how smoothly it all went, and how prepared Thomas was to go remote.
Tony says he has so many suppliers that just bring tears to his eyes. He says they have to shut down for the foreseeable future. Although, he says he’s heard from hospitals, organizations, city and state governments that found incremental suppliers. And he says you can use it on ThomasNet.com – and he says Thomas did it in 48 hours, not nine to 10 months.
He says Mark Andreesen of Andreesen Horowitz – who created the modern web browser called Netscape – wrote a post recently that says it’s time to build. He called out in a positive way that US manufacturing has never had a higher output.
Tony says ThomasNet rolled out a new badging system, rolled out version 5.0, rolled out business unit called Thomas Industrial Data, rewired all our financial systems, rolled out a new order entry system, and 450 seats of Salesforce – all in 30 days.
He says we are going to have a little turbulence here, but he thinks we’re going to get through this, and for many companies, they can come out of this stronger than before.
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Each month, Charles Araujo joins Cloud Wars Live for a recurring segment known as “Araujo on Transformation.” Charlie is a bestselling author who has three books to his name: “The Quantum Age of IT,” “The Ecosystem Advantage,” and “Performance-driven IT.” He is also an engaging speaker who will entertain and challenge your audience. Charlie has a website called www.charlesaraujo.com, and another called “The Institute for Digital Transformation.”
Charlie says from his standpoint he’s not sure of exactly how this is going to play out – and how much of this is truly long-lasting, from an economic standpoint. Uncertainty, he says, is certainly the big elephant in the room, and it’s really a debilitating factor.
Charlie says the correlation he draws if you think about a sports team or an elite military unit – that strategy is the secret sauce. He says his father did work for military units and Navy SEALs and watching them drill was utterly fascinating – because they communicated so much with body language and signals that were not even verbal.
Charlie says a restaurant chain in Chicago – a high-end restaurant – saw that it was not business as usual and they couldn’t do what almost every other restaurant in the country has done, which is simply try to do their existing business. But now, he says, they’re doing it all via delivery. They’ve rebuilt their menu and changed their app.
Charlie says we are going to see a massive shakeout. And in the end, some will come out of this so much stronger, and some will just crash and burn.
His final thought is, if you’re an enterprise leader the biggest mistake you could make would be to see this as temporary and just wait it out. He says he thinks we’re at a point now where you have a massive opportunity to use this time to experiment, to play with ideas, and to allow your humanity to flow through. There is a silver lining here if we choose to see it.
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Peter Steube, managing director of Enterprise Technology Research (ETR), will join us each month to discuss enterprise-IT buying trends among big-company CIOs and IT decision-makers around the world. ETR (www.etr.plus) has developed an extensive database of IT buying tendencies over the past 10 years, and tracks whether those buyers are likely to buy more, hold steady, or buy less from specific IT vendors. Peter's monthly sessions on Cloud Wars Live will come under the handle "Steube on Spending."
In this episode, Peter says he just wrapped up a survey of approximately 1,300 IT execs (CIOs) in April. He says we’re facing some very serious challenges to corporations in the future.
Peter says in his conversations with technologists over the past few weeks he’s been very keen to ask the direct question, “Is there anybody who’s not tone deaf to this?” He says deferred payment plans, promotions, are increasingly being driven to consumption-based models rather than licensed-based models.
Peter shares his screen to make a point about SAP. In January, SAP had effectively stabilized. But now, in April that spending intention score has come down again.
He shares his screen again to make a point about Salesforce and their acquisition of Tableau over a year ago. He says you’re spending more with Tableau because at the end of the day he’s sure that that’s what Salesforce executives would like.
Peter says if you’re stomach’s turning, you’re not alone. He says he wants to keep the optimism going, and encourage people to use all the resources they have available.
He has a website called etr.plus, his email is ps@etr.ai. And he is also available on LinkedIn.
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Each month, “Lochhead on Different” episodes explore the need to differentiate people, products, and services in a world that encourages a lot of imitation. Christopher Lochhead is a best-selling author, top podcaster, and former tech-industry CMO. He’s a student of not only business and technology and marketing but also human nature, human folly, human genius, and very human joy.
Episode 12
Chris says if you’re a human being, and you care about other human beings, this is hard. I tell him that you’re the guy in King Lear who said, “as long as we can say this is the worst, it ain’t the worst.” Chris quotes Churchill by saying “If you find yourself walking through hell, keep going.”
He says roughly in a month, from an economic point of view, we’ve gone from the strongest economy in modern history to the worst economy since WWII. He says it’s heartbreaking to see beautiful Italian churches with caskets in them.
He says it’s not a $2 trillion dollar bailout – it’s a $6 trillion dollar bailout. He says we have to have oversight and we have to have radical transparency and governance. Is the bailout going to end up being $10 trillion?
He says the supply chain is an essential service, and companies like Walmart, Amazon, and Costco are stepping up to become omnichannel companies.
Chris says he had Chris Fussell, a Navy SEAL on his podcast, and Stanley McChrystal, a four-star General, in a previous episode. He says they have a hundred-person consulting and training company that is working with various government agencies on the COVID-19.
Chris says the internet is an essential service. Data is an essential service. Cloud is an essential service. And our mobile and wireless networks are essential services. Data saves lives in a crisis.
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“Sadin on Digital” episodes explore the fast-changing and high-stakes world of digital business. Wayne Sadin and I focus in particular on what CEOs and boards must do to lead their companies successfully into the Digital Age. Today, we look at Wayne’s suggestions for how businesses should be preparing for COVID-19 and an extended work-from-home period.
Episode 14
The world has changed, Wayne says. We’re going to see this as pre-Covid and post-Covid worlds. He says are we going to want to shake hands? Are we going to get on that airplane? Or are we going to want to meet in person versus meeting virtual?
He then turns to technical debt – and he says you’re not fixing this in the middle of this crisis. He says the worst time to acquire a new skill is in the middle of a gunfight – and we’re in the middle of a gunfight. This is not the time to be putting in a brand-new system this week.
Wayne says that the “patch, polish, and perfect.” It’s broken, it doesn’t work so let’s figure out how to keep it running for the next day, week, month. Then we can polish it and perfect it.
Wayne says with the freemium model, you can use either the full system for a limited time, or the full system for a limited number of users. He says you could pay Microsoft a couple of hundred dollars a seat per month – or you could go pay somebody else $15 or $25 a seat and get 80% of the features – features you probably don’t need. He says his bill from Zoho is $0 a month.
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Each month, “Ammirati on Innovation” episodes will look at ways that the disruptive-startup mentality is spreading beyond young entrepreneurs to big established corporations. Serial entrepreneur, venture capitalist and Carnegie Mellon B-school professor Sean Ammirati, who sits at the intersection of these high-change dynamics, provides insight.
Episode 11
In this episode, Sean says he hasn’t been on a plane for almost four weeks – and that’s unusual because he is always on a plane to somewhere. So he has been able to have dinner with his wife and kids, and it’s been incredible. He says it puts life in perspective, and that’s the most important thing.
Sean says that his roughly 30 companies are negatively impacted by COVID-19 – but he says that’s secondary to health and safety. He says everyone is working from home.
Sean says he authored a book called “The Science of Growth,” where he looked at pairs of companies and asked, why did one company take off and the other one didn’t. Why is a third of the internet running on top of WordPress? Why are people driving Teslas and not Fiskars? Why do people have a Facebook account and not a Friendster account?
Sean says he wouldn’t want to be in the hospitality business today – or the travel business. He quotes Warren Buffett as saying, “Only when the tide goes out do you discover who’s been swimming naked.” Sean says he typically uses that in board meetings when it feels like companies are swimming to close to the knife’s edge. He says it’s true of a global company, and it’s also true inside a 10 person company. He says he’s pretty proud that his portfolio companies are doing a pretty good job of making sure that they’re doing the right thing.
Sean says what some companies are doing over the last five years in terms of share buybacks to inflate their stock. He says there are companies who had really good offers to raise money three months ago and held out to try to get a 5% higher valuation.
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Each month, “Lochhead on Different” episodes will explore the need to differentiate people, products, and services in a world that encourages a lot of imitation. A best-selling author, top podcaster, and former tech-industry CMO, Christopher Lochhead is a student of not only business and technology and marketing but also human nature, human folly, human genius, and very human joy.
Episode 11
In this episode: Chris says if you turn on your TV or fire up your browser, you’ll see don’t go to anything with more than 250 people…don’t go to anything with more than 100 people…and now we’re down to 10.
Chris says we’re on Zoom right now, and Zoom was started by Eric Yuan. Zoom has given their technology to all the schools in America – K through 12. Google, too, has stepped up to build a website, and Microsoft as well.
He says there was a deep connection with people after 9/11 – and it didn’t matter what political, racial, or whatever differences – we all seemed to melt away, and stood as one. He says that’s what’s beginning to happen here.
Chris says that megacompanies like Target, Walmart, or CVC – and of course Amazon – are delivering essential services. Chris says if you think about all the major food retailers now, America would be in a very difficult place.
I tell Chris that there are people immigrating to the US from Russia – mostly for religious reasons – and they would stand in the aisles dumbfounded, “How is this possible?” The essential services these supply chains deliver are remarkable.
Chris says it’s likely corporations are going to miss their next quarter’s numbers by 100%. Pipelines, revenues, and guidance on earnings are all going down.
He says a panel of experts at UCSF says 40% to 70% of us are going to get it. That’s 150 million Americans. If one percent of us die, that’s 1.5 million people.
Chris says what can we do to drive revenue for our business – if our business is still functioning. He says in the tech industry, there is something called “whitespace analysis.” Chris says this is where companies sell to an existing consumer, rather than selling to a brand-new customer.
He says the average commute in America is roughly 45 minutes. That’s an hour and a half a day. And he says that’s an hour and a half a day back. You can transform their lives, because in that hour they can workout, invest time with their family, and keep healthy.
Chris says he’s working on a book with Eddie Yoon, and it’s about “radical generosity.” Walmart and Target, etc. are giving away their parking lots for drive-thru testing. Tech companies are giving away their technology. He says as a company what can we do that’s radically generous?
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Each month, Tony Uphoff, visionary CEO of Thomasnet.com, joins Cloud Wars Live for a recurring segment. “Uphoff on Industry” will explore the innovations, upheavals, and breakthroughs reshaping the world of manufacturing and industrial markets. Join Tony and me as we discuss disruptive new trends in the digital-industrial world. These include how we design, source and manufacture products. And also the new ways in which industrial companies are getting up to speed on marketing, sales and customer experience.
Episode 12
In this episode: Tony says about 350 of Thomas are now working remotely – and 75 independent sales reps that they call certified Thomas Partners. He says he’s been amazed to watch his company make that transition and he is proud of his people that got him there. He says these are anxiety producing times, and he’s amazed at how calm people stayed.
Tony says that Thomas started to produce some surveys. The first wave Thomas sampled 750 companies, and the second wave they sampled 1,400. The first wave of the study 60% of respondents said they were seeing an impact on the virus in the near future. Second wave, 45% of respondents said they were seeing an impact. That means that some sources in China are coming back online.
Tony says that auto companies, electronics companies, aerospace companies, and others have their supply chains disrupted. He says you may see an acceleration of re-shoring in the U.S.
I tell Tony that when I was in ninth grade I had a coach that told us, “adversity builds character.” But he said no, “adversity reveals character.”
Tony says there’s a lot of people that understand that they can be very productive and live a high quality of life without the strain of commuting. He says that it’s pretty easy to draw a vector point and to see a higher percentage of remote workers. Which means empty offices.
Tony says to stay calm while we fly through some turbulence. He says we’re watching how customers and prospects are reaching out to Thomas and looking at the dashboard of their products and services. Tony says they were chatting via Slack today, and seeing users request a feature where a supplier would show lead times for products and services – right on the supplier profile.
Tony’s podcast is on all the major platforms as well as https://ThomasNet.com. You can also subscribe to Thomas’ daily email newsletter at https://www.thomasnet.com/insights/.
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“Sadin on Digital” episodes explore the fast-changing and high-stakes world of digital business. Wayne Sadin and I focus in particular on what CEOs and boards must do to lead their companies successfully into the Digital Age. Today, we talk coronavirus and why it’s a number one priority.
Episode 13
In this episode: Wayne begins by saying the world divides up into the digital haves and the digital have nots. He says if you’re Google, every Googler has a mobile device and they carry it with them everywhere they go. Their network has the ability to handle more than 100,000 people working at home. But he says with construction companies and manufacturing companies, 90% of your staff works in the office – and that’s an abrupt transition.
He says meanwhile, you’ve got people quarantined and locked down out of a sense of prudence – and you may want more and more people to work from home.
Wayne says people laugh when he comes into a client’s office, because has a power supply, a spare screen, charging bricks, a battery, and two headsets in the bag. But he says, it’s naïve to say everybody’s got a laptop, because that’s not the case. For example, you don’t need a laptop when you’re an accounts payable person. And he says you probably have collaboration tools. On the business side, he says, are your people aware of how to log in? How about printers? Do they have a printer at home?
He says the coronavirus is number one priority. Staying home and staying healthy is something he wouldn’t prioritize over corporate profits. He says there are going to be companies that emerge from this crisis in better shape. And there are companies that are just going to fall apart because they can’t operate in a different model.
Wayne says the crisis may be over in a couple of weeks, but he says the infection rate is going to overload the healthcare environment. He says what if we had a rolling problem for six months to 12 months. He says that’s his message to IT – don’t assume it’s over.
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For the past 35 years, Ben Rewis has been a leader in the development and deployment of cutting-edge enterprise technology within large financial-services companies. With a renewed passion for AI, Ben is now advising companies ranging from startups to global corporations on digital transformation and the massive opportunities around innovative uses of AI. A surfer buddy of Cloud Wars Live monthly guest Christopher Lochhead, Ben joins us today to share some compelling ideas on AI's vast potential for both good and evil.
Ben starts out by saying he got into working for a big insurance company, but he eventually relocated from Maine to California to join VISA – where he ran internet eCommerce services. Then, he moved to JPMorgan Chase and started looking at the fraud algorithms associated with real-time transaction processing.
He says as a student of tech, he already sees AI making a big difference in lots of industries – including healthcare, automotive, financial services, retail, telecommunications, manufacturing, etc. He says there are going to be 41 billion devices and 79 zettabytes by 2025 – and they are all benefiting from AI.
Ben says he does consulting work for the ag-tech industry. He says an apple tree has 2,000 blossoms and farmers want to cut it from 150 – so you don’t get the little golf-ball sized apples, you get the big, juicy ones. That’s 1,000X transformation – or 10,000X transformation.
Ben says things like miniature drones can be weaponized – and just like nukes they could get into the wrong hands. He says this is the most pressing ethical issue we face around safety, and particularly what war represents for our planet. Ben says there’s a ton of benefit for humankind, but also a ton of risk.
I tell Ben that an IBM executive, John Kelly, visited the Vatican – and the Pope – and he spent most of the time discussing the notion of bias. Ben says that there’s a challenge with ML systems. They’re not like traditional products and can’t be conjoined with another dataset. For example, a computer vision camera producing class one, and another set of cameras producing class two won’t be the same algorithm.
Ben says he loves working with teams that are doing digital transformation – whether it’s a Fortune 100 or a startup. He says he helps teams think through their products and business strategies, and if it’s a big company looking for transformation he is happy to do that too.
He says he found technology and wilderness at the age of 17. He says he found nature to be a really great teacher. Ben says pay attention to what it means for your kids’ kids, and try to the leave the world a better place.
His website is benrewis.com.
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Each month, Charles Araujo joins Cloud Wars Live for a recurring segment known as “Araujo on Transformation.” Charlie is a bestselling author who has three books to his name: “The Quantum Age of IT,” “The Ecosystem Advantage,” and “Performance-driven IT.” He is also an engaging speaker who will entertain and challenge your audience. Charlie has a website called www.charlesaraujo.com, and another called “The Institute for Digital Transformation.”
Charlie says at his core, he’s an IT guy who ran technical operations for a billion-dollar healthcare firm – and then spent his career as a consultant for executives who were engaged in large-scale transformational programs – things like organizational design, operational optimization, and process improvement.
He says throughout the Industrial Age, it was all about producing a mass product for a mass market. The industrial barons of their time didn’t have robots – they had human beings. But they were basically robots. They trained us to show up on time, every day, and repeatedly do the same thing over, and over again.
Charlie says he launched a new digital journal called “Your Digital Future,” and it’s specifically aimed at answering the question of how do digital leaders step into this bold future. And he wrote a piece about why automation fails – and it has to do with the fact that we had to create space in the organizations for them to have a safe path.
Charlie says we all have more information available to us than ever before. He says the idea of secrecy in an organization is almost a joke today – so how do we as a company start transforming our entire business model and our operating model around it?
Charlie says he uses Amazon and Walmart as an example. Walmart was the Industrial Age masterpiece. They built the world’s most amazing supply chain and they should have been unassailable, but what Amazon has brought to the table is the transformation of the customer experience.
He said he had ordered six chairs from West Elm, and they said it would take four months to arrive. When they showed up the two chairs were in the wrong color. And the second time one of those chairs was also in the wrong color. Fast forward to his wife, and she ordered a very extensive flower set from a name-brand florist. The flowers came, and they were very lackluster, but on the spot the agent gave his wife a credit for the entire amount.
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Each month, “Ammirati on Innovation” episodes will look at ways that the disruptive-startup mentality is spreading beyond young entrepreneurs to big established corporations. Serial entrepreneur, venture capitalist and Carnegie Mellon B-school professor Sean Ammirati, who sits at the intersection of these high-change dynamics, provides insight.
Episode 10
In this episode, Sean says Andy Jassy has been an incredible CEO of AWS. He says AWS would be one of the 10 most valuable companies in the world the day it went public. And he understands that it basically works for everybody in the world – except for Jeff Bezos. He says there are a ton of customers making very different decisions if AWS was a standalone entity. But, he says, will the CEO of Kroger compete with Whole Foods? He doesn’t think so.
Sean says Microsoft and Google are doing in the cloud space exactly what retailers, healthcare companies, and banks, etc. They’re saying, “What’s our incumbency advantage, and what are we best in the world at?”
I tell him that Peter Steube, one of our latest Digital All-Stars, has a 10-year trendable data from CIOs and CTOs about the enterprise purchases they’re making. Peter says there is absolutely no question that in the last six months Google Cloud has gone up dramatically – and also Microsoft. Sean says it’s hard to uncouple Google Cloud from the rest of the Google digital advertising business.
Sean says AWS needs to be set free. He says that’s a prediction he’s feeling much better about here in February than he was when he made it in January.
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We're delighted to introduce a new monthly guest on Cloud Wars Live: Peter Steube, managing director of Enterprise Technology Research (ETR), will join us each month to discuss enterprise-IT buying trends among big-company CIOs and IT decision-makers around the world. ETR (www.etr.plus) has developed an extensive database of IT buying tendencies over the past 10 years, and tracks whether those buyers are likely to buy more, hold steady, or buy less from specific IT vendors. Peter's monthly sessions on Cloud Wars Live will come under the handle "Steube on Spending."
In this episode: Peter Steube says ETR stands for Enterprise Technology Research. At the core of his business, he says, they’re data scientists. He says what ETR has been doing in that time period is building an active network, in which CIOs, CTOs, IT executives, and IT decision makers can do large-scale surveys. He says ETR also works on planned evaluations of emerging technology vendors.
Peter says ETR’s primary audience are professional investors, specifically focused on late-stage, publicly-held enterprise tech companies. And he’s proud to say ETR works with some of the largest global hedge funds and mutual funds.
He says in early 2020 they’re on pace for approximately 100 interviews with CIOs. They are fully recorded, transcribed, and housed in a searchable library on the platform.
Peter says ETR has a formula down to two key metrics – the overall number of respondents, and the proprietary metric called the net score. The net score measures the overall health and trajectory of spend. He says contained in this research is 10 years of survey responses – and a lot of cool tools.
Peter says with Thomas Kurian running things, the Google Cloud Platform could change quickly. He says they’re a likely alternative to AWS and Azure, and they seem to be taking a page from AWS’ book. I say to Peter, four or five days ago I saw an interview with Thomas Kurian in which he said, “We’re focused on executing our business plan – and we don’t get caught up in those things.”
You can visit Peter at www.etr.plus, and you can participate in their surveys and receive access to their research.
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Each month, Tony Uphoff, visionary CEO of Thomasnet.com, joins Cloud Wars Live for a recurring segment. “Uphoff on Industry” will explore the innovations, upheavals, and breakthroughs reshaping the the world of manufacturing and industrial markets. Join Tony and me as we discuss disruptive new trends in the digital-industrial world. These include how we design, source and manufacture products. And also the new ways in which industrial companies are getting up to speed on marketing, sales and customer experience.
Episode 10
In this episode: Tony says we have the benefit of having had a ringside seat at a lot of these market transitions. He says it always surprises you how long it takes for them to happen – and then the speed with which they ultimately happen. Tony says he thinks we’re at one of those stages right now, with industry 4.0 and digital transformation.
Tony says if you look at the valuations of a tech company, it’s much, much higher than a manufacturing company. Tesla is an outlier – sure, he says, they’re bending steel just like the others, but they’ve clearly fused tech at the center.
He says a sunflower moves based on the angle of the sun – and that’s what SunBot, a company that captures 90% of the sun’s rays does. It emulates nature, and it’s creating a whole new solar technology.
Tony goes on to say it was his chief technology officer who raised the idea that Thomas should develop a business unit called “Thomas Industrial Data,” to sell datasets into the buyside financial institutions. Tony says when he brought that up, he said, “please call me in a month.” But he was right, because the CTO was able to see that much quicker than anybody else in the company.
He says he lives in a glass house too, and he’s trying to understand what customer success really means. He says if you’re in the wrong hands, and you’re wildly overpromising on something, and you don’t know exactly what it is. But he says if you go to the other end of the spectrum it’s a license to upsell you after you’ve bought the core product or service.
Tony goes on to say that China assembled a 40,000 square-foot hospital in 10 days to assist people for the Coronavirus. They used prefabricated materials, and he is an awe of that.
Tony’s podcast is on all the major platforms as well as https://ThomasNet.com. You can also subscribe to Thomas’ daily email newsletter at at https://www.thomasnet.com/insights/.
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Each month, “Lochhead on Different” episodes will explore the need to differentiate people, products, and services in a world that encourages a lot of imitation. A best-selling author, top podcaster, and former tech-industry CMO, Christopher Lochhead is a student of not only business and technology and marketing but also human nature, human folly, human genius, and very human joy.
Episode 10
In this episode, Chris kicks off with John Doerr of the legendary venture capital firm Kleiner Perkins – who famously said the internet was underhyped. He took heat for it – but guess what, John was right. Also, he says Kevin Maney, who co-authored Play Bigger with Chris says the cloud is also underhyped.
He says his buddy Big Ben Rewis is advising a startup called Verdant Robotics. They have sensors on plants that are able to detect moisture levels – a/k/a chill hours – and the more chill hours the better, because trees sleep longer in hibernation when it’s colder.
He goes on to say that Steve Pratt has a company called Noodle.ai, and their mission is to optimize manufacturing and supply chains. Forty-percent of the food on the planet rots. And 40% to 50% of trucks on the road are empty because they are not optimized – and that creates 42 billion wasted miles, and over 97 million tons of CO2.
He says when he was with a company called Mercury that got its start in quality testing it went like this: “Test, test, test. Monitor, monitor, monitor.” Not so for Shadow Inc., which produced an app in two months that screwed up the entire Iowa Caucus.
Chris says that a podcast featuring a husband and wife team called Phelim McAller and Ann McElhinney are following the Harvey Weinstein trial, day by day. They have actors in LA read the pieces, and they stitch things together overnight. He says it’s groundbreaking.
I tell Chris that people are saying this is the end of innovation. And I say that a bureaucrat was running the U.S. Patent Office in 1907, and he said, “We should now shut down the U.S. Patent Office because everything that can be invented has been invented.”
He then turns to the Coronavirus. Corona beer surged over 3,200% globally on Google, and Chris says, “Are those people allowed to vote – or to procreate?” I joke that, “I've got to run because I've got a case of Corona beer that I've to get rid of. I just heard that it's deadly.”
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“Sadin on Digital” episodes explore the fast-changing and high-stakes world of digital business. Wayne Sadin and I focus in particular on what CEOs and boards must do to lead their companies successfully into the Digital Age. Today, we talk 2020. Wayne shares his predictions, ideas and recommendations for boards and the C-suite.
Episode 12
In this episode: Wayne begins with the term “Shadow IT,” which are systems built within organizations and used without approval. He says, let’s do a little history lesson: In years past there were only mainframes. And then we had minicomputers, and they begat PCs, and people could say, “I can do stuff on this. I just need this thing on my screen.” And that turned into, “Why don’t I share that nice Excel spreadsheet with this other person?” And then that other person shared it with yet another person, and before long it gets published as one of the corporate financials.
Wayne says there is a book by Fred Brooks called “The Mythical Man Month,” and it’s one of the seminal works of managing IT. Wayne says it talks about the notion that if I’m building a system for me it takes X effort. And if I’m building for other people, it takes three times that effort. By the way, Fred Brooks was the architect of the IBM System 360 software package – the biggest software product ever delivered.
He says the problem with databases is they are being hit millions and millions and millions of times a day – or maybe billions if companies have an IoT situation. Organizations have machines sending machine messages, he says, and people don’t want to let end users into the database. He says it’s known colloquially as the query from hell.
He says companies moving to a SaaS-based ERP, and a cloud-based ERP can get multiple benefits. Microsoft, Oracle, Salesforce, Workday, and others have what are called “data lakes,” which are structured and unstructured data.
Wayne talks about “horses for courses” – if you’re changing something that touches the general ledger or is ever reported in external financials to investors or customers, you have to have a level of control. It’s not a free-for-all, and the system will magically keep you from doing a stupid thing when you’re making a calculation.
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Each month, Tony Uphoff, visionary CEO of Thomasnet.com, joins Cloud Wars Live for a recurring segment. “Uphoff on Industry” will explore the innovations, upheavals, and breakthroughs reshaping the the world of manufacturing and industrial markets. Join Tony and me as we discuss disruptive new trends in the digital-industrial world. These include how we design, source and manufacture products. And also the new ways in which industrial companies are getting up to speed on marketing, sales and customer experience.
Episode 10
In this episode: Tony believes that 2020 will be the year where industry 4.0 really takes off. The increase he says, of products and services such as robotics, advanced manufacturing systems, additive manufacturing (a/k/a 3D printing), electronic components and sensors, have finally converged.
Tony says that 5G will open up packets of information at volumes we haven’t dreamed of before. He says that 5G connected to additive manufacturing will put small manufacturing facilities closer to a company’s customers.
Tony says that Apple, Amazon, Google, and Microsoft are all manufacturers. But in a different era we would have said, “no, they’re software companies.” But if you actually look at the business they’re in, he says, enabling technologies are allowing us to rethink what is a manufacturing company.
He says a Toyota plant in the Midwest did a $1.5 billion upgrade to every system – including AI and robotics. And here’s the kicker: It created more than 500 jobs.
Tony says Boeing is struggling to figure out who the company is in today’s world. He says they made some really, really bad decisions. And because of that, Boeing’s very large customers are backing up and saying, “Maybe you aren’t who we thought you were.”
Tony says when Steve Ballmer was the CEO of Microsoft, it was all about market share, and about why they were better than the competition. Fast-forward to Satya Nadella, who is now the CEO, and he’s talking about customer behavior and customer needs. And he’s talking about partnering with other corporations like Oracle and SAP.
Tony’s podcast is on all the major platforms as well as ThomasNet.com. You can subscribe to Thomas’s daily email newsletter at thomasnet/insights.
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“Sadin on Digital” episodes explore the fast-changing and high-stakes world of digital business. Wayne Sadin and I focus in particular on what CEOs and boards must do to lead their companies successfully into the Digital Age. Today, we talk 2020. Wayne shares his predictions, ideas and recommendations for boards and the C-suite.
Episode 11
In this episode: Wayne and I discuss how he works with a lot of manufacturing companies, logistics companies, and construction companies, and their technology stacks are 30, 40, or 50 years old. He says some of them are coming up to Wayne and saying, “What do we do to get started?”
Wayne says people who define themselves as buggy whip manufacturers were passed by when the auto industry emerged. But people who define themselves as leather manufacturers switched to driving gloves and prospered. Defining your market really matters.
Wayne says the power of AI and IoT is that you can flip a switch and pay a license, and all of a sudden be in the 21st Century. He says the modern ERP vendor says, “Oh yes, we can write that, we can modify that, and we can show you how to customize that.”
He says Microsoft has done a terrific job in two areas: One is Active Directory, which shows your security environment and your management of privacy, and that’s now connected to the cloud. And number two is Azure Stack, which can take the code into your data center, and act as though you’re in the cloud.
Wayne says 2020 is going to be a terrific year. The economy’s doing well, and his clients are pretty optimistic. Their businesses are growing and now it’s the challenge of keeping up with growth and keeping ahead of competitors.
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Each month, “Ammirati on Innovation” episodes will look at ways that the disruptive-startup mentality is spreading beyond young entrepreneurs to big established corporations. Serial entrepreneur, venture capitalist and Carnegie Mellon B-school professor Sean Ammirati, who sits at the intersection of these high-change dynamics, provides insight.
Episode 9
In this episode, Sean and I discuss Slack. He says Slack has basically been slashed in half – $42 a share vs. $22 a share. Its market cap is $12 billion. Sean says what would these statistics be worth inside Oracle, Salesforce, Microsoft, or Google. He says that with some of the assets Microsoft has, LinkedIn plus Slack would be a very good combination. Sean says LinkedIn bought Lynda, a corporate education company, for $1.5 billion, but so far it’s been an accretive acquisition.
He speculates Walmart has the potential to buy one or two very large companies – including FedEx, which he says would be a good acquisition – and maybe Shopify too. He says we’ll see a further investment in Walmart Labs, including new business models.
He then turns to Amazon and AWS. He says he just can’t wrap his head around why Amazon won’t spin out AWS this year. He says he’s seen all the denials from the management team – but it just doesn’t make sense that they don’t want to do this. Sean says how does Walmart feel about cutting checks to AWS? I say that AWS will finish the calendar year with about $38 billion in revenue – placing them among the top seven tech companies.
Sean says he’s not an economist, but his conclusion is that often companies are wrong. They often deliver with confidence and that confidence often turns out to be incorrect. The market almost certainly needs to correct in 2020.
Sean’s podcast is Agile Giants, and it’s on all the major platforms.
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For this sponsored Cloud Wars Live conversation, I spoke with Steve Daheb, Senior Vice President, Oracle Cloud. He starts with the Autonomous Database. Steve says quarter by quarter it’s growing by 100% and thousands of customers are running on it. It eliminates human error and it’s self-driving, self-securing, and self-repairing.
Steve says with machine learning and other technologies, you don’t need a room full of PhDs to figure it out. Oracle has done the hard work for you so you can focus on what matters most for your company.
He says it’s all about the perimeter and protecting the network. But he says users are the new perimeter and 70% of breaches are still happening internally to a company, and if that data isn’t encrypted – which was the case with one financial institution – you can lose a hundred million records because of internal malpractice. Steve says these breaches wouldn’t have happened on Oracle’s watch: they would have been self-patched.
He goes on to say Oracle’s adding a new data center every day. In the last six months, it’s been Seoul, Mumbai, Sao Paulo, Zurich, Sydney and three DOD data center regions.
Steve talks about how Oracle Cloud’s ERP is used by some of the biggest companies in the world – like Biogen, Cisco, MGM, Walgreens, and Swiss Post. They are all companies that are using Autonomous and Gen 2 together. He says it’s exciting to go into 2020 with this head of steam around Autonomous – and Steve Miranda, who is executive vice president, applications development – is leading the charge.
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Each month, Tony Uphoff, visionary CEO of Thomasnet.com, joins Cloud Wars Live for a recurring segment. “Uphoff on Industry” will explore the innovations, upheavals, and breakthroughs reshaping the world of manufacturing and industrial markets. Join Tony and me as we discuss disruptive new trends in the digital-industrial world. These include how we design, source and manufacture products. And also the new ways in which industrial companies are getting up to speed on marketing, sales and customer experience.
Episode 9
In this episode: Tony and I begin by discussing our recent experience at Carnegie Mellon University. Our Digital All-Star Sean Ammirati, who founded the Corporate Startup Lab, invited us to participate in a day-long event that touched on Disney+, the industrial IoT, data silos, and a host of other topics.
Tony was with a company called Rodon, and they were launching a new product called “SillDry.” It’s for a commercial building where if you’re putting in windows you can make sure they stay dry. They built a rubber unit that goes into the application, and it fits in cleanly and easily.
Later, he says he implemented the Harvard strategy of “Jobs to be Done” as a research methodology and formalized process. He says it was exhaustive, and Thomas did five-hundred 90-minute interviews. But, he says, the qualitative analysis is helping ThomasNet put the data into perspective, so they can see the patterns a little better.
Tony talks about how workers on the factory floor are looking at real-time data and are better able to make decisions. They’re looking at customer orders, customer needs, and how many orders are shipping and where they’re being shipped. Everyone knows what’s going on.
Finally, he says we don’t need managers – we need leaders.
You can see the Thomas Industry Update podcast on every major platform – and on Thomasnet.com.
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Each month, “Lochhead on Different” episodes will explore the need to differentiate people, products, and services in a world that encourages a lot of imitation. A best-selling author, top podcaster, and former tech-industry CMO, Christopher Lochhead is a student of not only business and technology and marketing but also human nature, human folly, human genius, and very human joy.
Episode 8
In this episode, Chris agrees with me that “Data is the new oil” is stupid. He says data is more valuable than cash. Data can be converted into value in more and powerful ways than cash. He goes on to say that cyberbullying is an epidemic, and that people of all ages are committing suicide as a result.
According to IDC, Chris says, there’s going to be a 10X increase in the amount of data on planet earth –163 zettabytes. And according to Statistica, the average person – adults and children – will interact with a connected device nearly 4,800 times a day! Also according to Statistica, the Internet of Things will have 75.5 billion connected devices by 2025.
Chris says there’s a company called DribbleUp, and they have created a “smart basketball," which tracks things and gives data back to your phone – and presents you with different and more effective ways of training and using the ball.
Chris says there’s a term going around called, the “data flywheel.” Simply stated, the company that has the most data around who their customers are and what customers are purchasing. Chris and his partner Eddie Yoon co-authored a Harvard Business Review article that said the company with the fastest growing data flywheel is most likely the one who is going to be able to dominate that category, because their lead will soon be insurmountable.
He says many concert tickets get sold on the secondary market – and are essentially digitally scalped. So Adele said on her recent tour, ”If we don’t solve this problem, somehow only the people who are in the audience are a bunch of rich people. I want to perform for my most enthusiastic fans – some might be rich, but others aren’t. So how do I allocate the tickets?” The solution was an algorithm. It was effective in getting tickets into the hands of fans who actually wanted to come – and that is an example of a data flywheel.
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“Sadin on Digital” episodes explore the fast-changing and high-stakes world of digital business. Wayne Sadin and I focus in particular on what CEOs and boards must do to lead their companies successfully into the Digital Age. Today, we explore how business leaders should hire CIOs. Because the industry is changing, and the role needs to change along with it.
Episode 9
In this episode, Wayne and I talk about how his Christmas present this year to his clients and potential clients is about what to think about next year. He says that all technology is not good technology – and it’s sometimes hard to tell the wheat from the chaff.
He says there are too many things in the market called Fake Cloud. They sound like Cloud, they look like Cloud, but they just add to complexity and cost. And there’s a balloon payment due in the form of ransomware that holds your data for hostage.
I tell him that this week Cloud Wars named Thomas Kurian the Cloud Wars CEO of the Year. Wayne says he put Google into the business of supplying Cloud to enterprises – and he says it’s a terrific choice for those of us that see Cloud as a place to put mature workloads.
Wayne says everybody who has done a big ERP knows that if you’re not ready for a seven, eight, nine-figure investment, take a look at something else. He says technical debt comes in because clients don’t realize that every year they have to keep spending that. And by moving to SaaS, hyperscale Cloud, and modern ERP they can buy the product, pay their monthly fee, upgrade it maintain it – and not create technical debt.
Wayne says blockchain is a solution in search of a problem. He says every problem that’s been brought to him he found a cheaper, simpler, easier way to solve it. Also, he says 5G will one day be a terrific product, but it’s just not ready yet.
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Thomas Kurian has been CEO of Google Cloud just one year, and in that time he has transformed the organization.
Thomas says Google started the year by focusing on changing to organization to be more customer-centric, and enabling the customer journey. He goes on to say if you’re talking to a financial institution, are there better solutions to do fraud detection, anti-money laundering? If you talk to logistics and manufacturing companies, how can I optimize the location of my fleet? How can I save money doing that better? How can I do scheduling better?
He says everybody wants to create that magic moment with a customer.
Thomas says there’s a scarcity of talent in AI and machine learning – at least people that do it well. He says Google’s approach has been to create a solution that helps people fundamentally improve the experience that their consumers have when they call the contact center – without having an army of people and expertise themselves. He says Google wants to enable organizations to be bold and brave – and don’t feel afraid of embracing technology.
Thomas says there are different kinds of partners that customers have needs for – not just distributors and resellers, but system integrators, solution partners, and managed services companies. And he says they’ve really been pleased with the growth in the partner community.
Thomas says Google has had customers tell us, “Hey, I've been told it'll take me 10 years to re-optimize my supply chain infrastructure – and what you guys delivered for me in four months is improving my inventory turns and my supply chain efficiency by 10 times.”
Finally, Thomas compares this to running a marathon. He says there’s a great runner called Eliud Kipchoge who ran a marathon in two hours – something that people never thought possible. He says you have to be patient, but you have to have a sense of urgency – and the people who work at Google do both.
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Each month, “Ammirati on Innovation” episodes will look at ways that the disruptive-startup mentality is spreading beyond young entrepreneurs to big established corporations. Serial entrepreneur, venture capitalist and Carnegie Mellon B-school professor Sean Ammirati, who sits at the intersection of these high-change dynamics, provides insight.
Episode 8
In this episode, Sean and I discuss how Disney+ had over 10 million people signed up in 24 hours – and they’re registering 1.2 million downloads a day on the app. He says his wife was one of the 10 million people who signed up for Disney+. And because he has two kids he says you need food, water, and Mickey Mouse.
I told him about a guy who used to work for Oracle who said to Larry Ellison, “Hey Larry, we’re doing a lot of stuff here at Yahoo and we got a call from some people at Disney. And they asked if maybe we could discuss the opportunity of doing some things together. I don't know, what should we tell them?” Larry said, “Let’s see, they have the greatest movies in the world, they have theme parks, hundreds of millions of fans around the world, an incredible brand, loyal employees. You know, all these assets you’d die for. What does Yahoo have? Free news and email.”
Sean says SAP is reimagining HR the transition from HCM to HXM – in other words, employees first. He says SAP is creating a whole new category, and he thinks that’s not going to be the last thing you’re going to see coming out of SAP.
Salesforce and Microsoft were in a bidding war for LinkedIn, and Sean says what felt expensive for LinkedIn now feels awfully cheap with the HCM space heating up.
Sean circles back to Disney+ and says the CEO of Netflix should figure out what to do to level the playing field. He says that his currency is down in the last six months, and he has less currency to deals than he did six months ago. Sean knows the history of AOL and TimeWarner. He says the world has changed and you need to scale to play in the game that Netflix and Disney+ a playing out today.
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Each month, Tony Uphoff, visionary CEO of Thomasnet.com, joins Cloud Wars Live for a recurring segment. “Uphoff on Industry” will explore the innovations, upheavals, and breakthroughs reshaping the the world of manufacturing and industrial markets. Join Tony and me as we discuss disruptive new trends in the digital-industrial world. These include how we design, source and manufacture products. And also the new ways in which industrial companies are getting up to speed on marketing, sales and customer experience.
Episode 8
In this episode, Tony and I begin with his podcasts, which are available at the Thomas Industry Update and on every major platform such as Spotify, Apple Podcasts, etc. Karen Norheim was on Episode 3. She is president and COO of American Crane & Equipment Corporation and Tony said she is doing some really innovative things.
He says tariffs are constantly in the headlines, and you can’t predict the impact – we don’t know what’s going to happen. He suggests that companies are identifying localized supply chains as their backup – if not their primary.
Tony says upwards of 75% of trading relationships are paid via a traditional purchase order or traditional check, rather than e-invoicing or electronic payments – which seems astounding to him.
He goes on to say that, “Boy I outsourced my manufacturing to Vietnam.” If you own the supply chain, he says, you know how long it takes to ship it back – and the loss or breakage along the way.
Tony says companies now have dashboards up in a centralized service area, and they will have a physical camera showing all the different components of their supply chain – so if anything were to happen, they can move in real-time.
Tony says he gets several emails every day saying, “I stumbled across your profile, and I thought we should connect.” He imagines that if you’re an industry tradeshow and you see the CEO of a customer company and walk over and go, “Hey I just happened to stumble upon you.”
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Each month, “Ammirati on Innovation” episodes will look at ways that the disruptive-startup mentality is spreading beyond young entrepreneurs to big established corporations. Serial entrepreneur, venture capitalist and Carnegie Mellon B-school professor Sean Ammirati, who sits at the intersection of these high-change dynamics, provides insight.
Episode 7
In this episode, Sean and I kick off with a new look at the evolving WeWork and Softbank story. Sean explores what it means that SoftBank chose to invest even more money into WeWork, and now owns about 80% of the business. Plus, the fact that the former CEO is making $180 MILLION during the transition! I think we all can agree, that’s a pretty good consulting package.
In our last podcast episode, Sean compared WeWork to a real estate business. Now he says it’s basically a rental car company: they buy expensive fixed assets, and then they rent them out in very short units of time. But there are still reasons for optimism. For example, Sean says, Amazon has 5,000 WeWork desks in New York alone.
We also debate whether the SoftBank decision to keep WeWork running is a smart one. Are they following the sunk cost fallacy? Or doubling-down on their belief in WeWork’s ability to lead the transformation of work trend? Sean quotes hedge fund manager Howard Marks, who says, “To be a great investor you need to be two things: you need to be contrarian and correct.” SoftBank is definitely being contrarian. Only time will tell if they’re also correct.
Sean and I then jump to a discussion of a few of the Cloud Wars Top 10 vendors. I have some questions for Sean about ServiceNow, which now has Bill McDermott as CEO. You could argue that it’s the #1 most innovative company in the world; it’s growing at 35% and approaching a billion dollars in revenue per quarter.
Finally, we have a high-level discussion of innovation. Sean says his employer, Carnegie Mellon, has been ten years ahead of the world in AI – they were using self-driving cars in the aughts. Innovation works differently everywhere. But some recent moves by Microsoft, Amazon and Google to take a leadership position in AI indicate that the time for widespread, non-stop innovation is NOW.
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For this sponsored Cloud Wars Live conversation, I spoke with Mick Hollison, CMO of Cloudera. Mick just came back from a Cloudera customer event in New York City called Strata Data, in which they unveiled the new Cloudera Data Platform to the world. He said customers wanted it to be open-source, open APIs, open compute, and open storage.
Mick quotes Peter Levine of Andreesen Horowitz, who says the early phase is dictated by convincing developers and technologists to start programming; the next phase is to get users; and the third phase is how to extract meaningful analytics and insight from the data.
He goes on to say that they have a customer, Komatsu, which makes massive mining equipment costing hundreds of millions of dollars. Cloudera put sensors on the devices to ingest the data, analyze it, and then predict what was going to happen to the machines. The machines, by the way, literally sink into the earth.
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Each month, Tony Uphoff, visionary CEO of Thomasnet.com, joins Cloud Wars Live for a recurring segment. “Uphoff on Industry” will explore the innovations, upheavals, and breakthroughs reshaping the the world of manufacturing and industrial markets. Join Tony and me as we discuss disruptive new trends in the digital-industrial world. These include how we design, source and manufacture products. And also the new ways in which industrial companies are getting up to speed on marketing, sales and customer experience.
Episode 7
In this episode, Tony and I discuss the passing of Mark Hurd, co-CEO of Oracle. He says he could be tough, but Tony had huge admiration for his business acumen.
He goes on to say that there’s really cool technology around what’s called “smart warehousing,” where they’re combining man and machine to automate and improve efficiencies.
Tony was invited to give a keynote address at the Electronic Components Industry Association (ECIA), and he spoke about data and research. When he got off the stage, somebody used the expression, “You punched us right in the face with the reality of where our buyer’s going – even if we didn’t want to hear it.”
Tony was also on Fox Business News, and talked about the state of U.S. manufacturing. Prior to his appearance, the stock market tanked by 500 points. He says it was a fascinating time to go on the show, since the markets were reacting to the ISM survey of manufacturers.
Tony says that your prospective customer knows more about your products, your offering, your competitors, and the marketplace than your best sales rep could ever know.
Tony has a new podcast called “Thomas Industry Update.” Their first guest is Anne Evans, director at the Department of Commerce, who is helping U.S. companies understand the complexities of exporting. It’s available on all platforms: www.thomasnet.com/update.
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“Sadin on Digital” episodes explore the fast-changing and high-stakes world of digital business. Wayne Sadin and I focus in particular on what CEOs and boards must do to lead their companies successfully into the Digital Age. Today, we dive deeper into a topic we’ve touched on a couple times before: “technical debt.” Through some evocative metaphors, Wayne explains why it matters—and how to avoid it building up.
Episode 9
In this episode, Wayne and I talk about the CIO. He says the CEO gets the CIO they settled for. If the CIO can’t hit your strategic agenda, and help you become a partner, and move the business forward, you’re setting your sights to low. Don’t settle, he says, for a mediocre CIO.
He says the CIO needs to get on the truck if you deliver things. Get in the warehouse if you store things. Get on the factory floor if you make things. Go on a sales call and see what happens when your salespeople get tossed out on their ear.
He then goes on to say that most executives work in vertical silos – as in, I’m in charge of department A or B or C. But he says the CIOs who are effective get out of that way of thinking, and start thinking of themselves as the Chief Process Person.
He tells the story of how he asked a CIO, “What do you think is your biggest accomplishment.” And the CIO said, “Oh, it’s really simple. My IT budget was 0.91% of sales, and I was able to keep it to 0.88% of sales.” Wayne says that’s just nuts – what if they had given him 0.03% of sales to focus on top line innovation, or process improvement, or customer satisfaction?
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Each month, “Ammirati on Innovation” episodes will look at ways that the disruptive-startup mentality is spreading beyond young entrepreneurs to big established corporations. Serial entrepreneur, venture capitalist and Carnegie Mellon B-school professor Sean Ammirati, who sits at the intersection of these high-change dynamics, provides insight.
Episode 6
In this episode, Sean and I discuss the pain and suffering at WeWork, which had roughly a $50 billion market cap, and is now struggling to do one-third that much. Their CEO, Adam Neumann voted to oust himself amid various scandals, and their “community adjusted EBITDA” he calls a made-up metric.
SoftBank, their largest investor, was poised to push for an IPO, but Sean says WeWork was a $10 billion great idea – not a $50 billion great idea. He says this was always, at the end of the day, a real estate business, and he compares it to CB Richard Ellis – although with a 5x valuation. And Sean says it turns out that beer and kombucha on tap is expensive – and there’s a lot of that in WeWork spaces.
I tell him about my experience eating seal meat with SoftBank. Sean says I should have moved it around on the plate and hope something else comes along.
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Each month, Tony Uphoff, visionary CEO of Thomasnet.com, joins Cloud Wars Live for a recurring segment. “Uphoff on Industry” will explore the innovations, upheavals, and breakthroughs reshaping the the world of manufacturing and industrial markets. Join Tony and me as we discuss disruptive new trends in the digital-industrial world: how we design, source and manufacture products, and also the new ways in which industrial companies are getting up to speed on marketing, sales and customer experience.
Episode 6
In this episode, Tony and I start off by discussing how there is substantial increase in software products and services in the industrial marketplace – and how software companies really need to focus on customer success. He says he openly will throw rocks – and live in a glass house at the exact same moment.
Tony says that in the spirit of eating their own dog food, Thomas has completely reconfigured over 400 seats of Salesforce and added a completely different order entry system. He says they also ripped out the entire financial software backbone – and installed several other systems to support the financial process.
He talks of Regis McKenna, who was a hugely influential figure in Silicon Valley. He was responsible for a lot of the things we think about in modern marketing and positioning – including Apple and Compaq. And he talks of Jan Carlzon, who resuscitated SAS airlines in the 1980s. He’s written a book called “Moments of Truth."
I mention the remarkable and unexpected changes taking place in the software world, such as the budding BFF relationship between former rivals Microsoft and Oracle. In the interest of driving more value for customers by helping them integrate software from Microsoft and Oracle, Larry Ellison went so far as to say the two companies now have a "great partnership."
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“Wayne Sadin on Digital Strategy” episodes explore the fast-changing and high-stakes world of digital business. We focus in particular on what CEOs and boards must do to lead their companies successfully into the Digital Age. Today, we talk frankly about the recent Capital One data breach, whether AWS bears any responsibility for it, and how companies of all sizes should be thinking about security and the cloud.
Episode 8
In this episode Wayne and I discuss technical debt. I ask him is this technical debt in the financial sense of debt – or is it because you haven’t made the investments to keep up with modern technology? Wayne says it’s the latter. He says technical debt keeps you from delivering and executing on all the business strategies that leaders want and need.
Wayne quotes a CEO as saying, “My Windows XP computer boots up every day, so what’s wrong?” He compares it to a P-51 Mustang fighter plane from WWII. Yes, Wayne says, you could do that – but if you go head-to-head against a Chinese MiG, who would win? Hackers, he says, are flying MiGs.
Wayne goes on to say that Russell Reynolds coined the term “QTE,” which stands for qualified technology executive – an individual possessing a high degree of current technology-relevant domain experience. It was modeled after the Sarbanes-Oxley QFE – a qualified financial expert.
Finally, he puts a plug in for the Digital Directors Network run by Bob Zuckis at USC. Membership is free for board-qualified technology and cybersecurity experts and corporate directors who want to develop their digital diversity skills in the corporate boardroom.
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Each month, “Lochhead on Different” episodes will explore the need to differentiate people, products, and services in a world that encourages a lot of imitation. A best-selling author, top podcaster, and former tech-industry CMO, Christopher Lochhead is a student of not only business and technology and marketing but also human nature, human folly, human genius, and very human joy.
Episode 7
In this episode, Chris and I start by discussing September 11. The 9/11 Memorial and Museum in New York is a profound experience that everyone should visit. Chris says he felt anger, emotion, and sadness – but he also felt uplifted. He said the wildest thing is it captures the worst of humanity and the best of humanity at the same time. I quote Virgil from the 9/11 Museum who said, “No day shall erase you from the memory of time.”
On a lighter note, Chris says that approximately 50% of marriages originate digitally, according to Pew Research. And couples who meet online tend to communicate better and have longer and happier relationships. Chris says a trend now in marriages is putting pot in the wedding bouquet – and even in the floral arrangements at the dinner table. He then goes on to say that a future Google AI program will be spying on your baby – and that fires up his George Orwell.
Chris had Eric Yuan of Zoom fame on his podcast. Zoom is now a $20 billion+ publicly traded company, and he created a tremendous amount of wealth for his employees and shareholders. Eric said, “I think it was a good thing that it was really hard for me to get into the United States, because it taught me as a young man perseverance.”
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Each month, Tony Uphoff, visionary CEO of Thomasnet.com, joins Cloud Wars Live for a recurring segment. “Uphoff on Industry” will explore the innovations, upheavals, and breakthroughs reshaping the the world of manufacturing and industrial markets. Join Tony and me as we discuss disruptive new trends in the digital-industrial world: not just how products are designed, sourced and manufactured, but also the new ways in which industrial companies are getting up to speed on marketing, sales and customer experience.
Episode 5
In this episode: Tony and I discuss self-management, something that he says doesn’t get talked about enough. He says the emotional stamina required to run a business today is infinitely more difficult and more trying than it was even 10 years ago.
Tony says there’s been nearly 200,000 robots purchased in the U.S. in the last seven years – and in those same seven years there have been 1.3 million new manufacturing jobs. He says he’s not a huge fan of the work-life balance; it’s not about how many hours do I spend working and how many hours do I spend in my personal life – it’s about how do you stay fresh. And finally, Tony says if you’ve lost your curiosity and passion for the industry, you might want to consider calling up private equity and deciding to get out.
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Each month, “Ammirati on Innovation” episodes will look at ways that the disruptive-startup mentality is spreading beyond young entrepreneurs to big established corporations. Serial entrepreneur, venture capitalist and Carnegie Mellon B-school professor Sean Ammirati, who sits at the intersection of these high-change dynamics, provides insight.
Episode 5
In this episode, Sean and I discuss how he wants everybody to think about themselves as an entrepreneur – and that includes people working inside large businesses. He quotes Jim Collins of “Good to Great” fame by saying good is the enemy of great – and that’s why some entities don’t become great. Sean says that software, when done well, provides asymmetric value, and how Satya Nadella of Microsoft said that over the next five years, 500 million new applications will be written – far more than in the history of the software industry. And finally, Sean says you can go to corporatestartuplab.com and see free tools that are in development – all the Corporate Startup Lab asks for is feedback. His podcast Agile Giants is on all the major streaming networks.
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This episode is brought to you by Oracle.
For this sponsored Cloud Wars Live conversation, I sat down for a talk with Bruno Aziza, Group Vice President of Oracle Analytics. Bruno says Oracle Analytics and AI can help organizations make faster and better decisions and help companies be better companies – and better societies. He says if you’re not a cloud-first analytics solution, you’re going to have a lot of issues with data provisioning and data protection.
Bruno says it’s not just data scientists, engineers, and business analysts that need insights into their workflow – it’s employees. And yet only 35% of employees can use the data analytics tools that have been produced for them – and 65% of them are in the dark. He calls it the “silent majority.” If you could enable 10% more, how many more ideas could you get to win in the marketplace?
Bruno’s weekly YouTube podcast is called “Destination:Insight,” where you can go on LinkedIn and reach out to any customer. He says they have a very engaged community who are dying to tell you about their story.
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Each month, “Lochhead on Different” episodes will explore the need to differentiate people, products, and services in a world that encourages a lot of imitation. A best-selling author, top podcaster, and former tech-industry CMO, Christopher Lochhead is a student of not only business and technology and marketing but also human nature, human folly, human genius, and very human joy.
Episode 7
In this episode, one of his finest, Chris says that Nike acquired a company called “Celect,” which is a retail analytics and demand sensing firm. (Nike purchased it for its omnichannel expertise.) And Chase bought a company called “Persado,” which is an AI company that specializes in marketing and copywriting. (Their AI performed better than ads written by human copywriters – with a higher percentage of clicks in some cases.)
Chris then goes on to say he had some visitors from London, and the teenagers were constantly on their phones – the sunset, the S’mores, the beach fire didn’t seem to register with them. He says he went to a Rolling Stones concert at Levi Stadium – and the Stones ARE rock & roll – but you wouldn’t know it from all the people texting on their phones.
Chris says you should stick to your vision – people said Chris swore too much, was a bad interviewer, interrupted his guests, was annoying, was bald. Now he has the #53 podcast in the country – outpacing Oprah for a time.
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“Wayne Sadin on Digital Strategy” episodes will explore the fast-changing and high-stakes world of digital business. We’ll focus on what CEOs and boards must do to lead their companies successfully into the Digital Age. Today, we talk about hyperscaling, digital transformation, and shifts in enterprise technology that are creating opportunities for differentiation.
Episode 7
In this episode: Wayne looks at Capital One and their data breach. Is it Amazon’s (AWS) fault or Capital One’s fault. He digs down to say that Capital One shoulders the blame – but they noticed the discrepancies and did their best to patch it. Hackers will always be upgrading their technology and sharpening their tools – and we need to be diligent.
Wayne compares it to a hole in a fence. You can drive trucks through there and you’re perfectly safe. But what if a human being can walk through the hole; then you have a problem. But Wayne says that no one should spend enormous sums on cybersecurity when you can buy preconfigured solutions for most of the standard problems facing you.
He then goes on to say if we turned up everybody’s thermostat to 100 degrees during the middle of a heat wave, how many pets and how many people would we kill?
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For this sponsored Cloud Wars Live conversation, I spoke with Craig Wilensky. Craig is CEO at JASCI, a SaaS provider that specializes in warehouse management, order fulfillment, carrier shipping, and labor management software. JASCI also provides data and analytics, parcel shipping, machine learning, and robotics.
Craig shares with me the three primary concerns among his customers. First is speed. Next is reliability. Finally, security: JASCI needs to deliver speed and reliability while also keeping customers data secure. It’s clear that Craig has a passion for his customers, which are primarily e-commerce companies with razor-thin margins. So we dive into how a collaboration with Oracle helps JASCI deliver speed, reliability, and security. Specifically, we discuss Oracle's ATP (autonomous transaction processing) platform. Craig tells me ATP has been a critical tool in helping his customers keep up with their competitors, the big tech giants. For example: by leveraging ATP, average decision-making time of JASCI AI software is less than 100 milliseconds. (And he wants to bring it down into the five millisecond range!)
We're in a "whole new world" of retail, Craig says. And JASCI software is doing some really hard work for customers, including big data, decision learning, and automation. But what Craig focuses on, and what Oracle is helping JASCI accomplish, is making it look like no work at all.
This episode is brought to you by Oracle.
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Each month, “Ammirati on Innovation” episodes will look at ways that the disruptive-startup mentality is spreading beyond young entrepreneurs to big established corporations. Serial entrepreneur, venture capitalist and Carnegie Mellon B-school professor Sean Ammirati, who sits at the intersection of these high-change dynamics, provides insight.
Episode 4
In this episode, Sean and I discuss how Microsoft and OpenAI announced a joint initiative, which they call AGI, and how $1 billion – no matter how big the company is – is a big investment. I quote from Sam Altman, Chairman and former CEO of YCombinator and now CEO of OpenAI, “The creation of AGI will be the most important technological development in human history with the potential to shape the trajectory of humanity.” Sean says Sam is not someone you would bet against, because it is the best-run tech accelerator out there. He then returns to how Bing feels like the old Microsoft, not the new Microsoft. Sean then notes that with challenge comes great opportunity, and people have some really exciting opportunities in front of them.
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Each month, “Lochhead on Different” episodes will explore the need to differentiate people, products, and services in a world that encourages a lot of imitation. A best-selling author, top podcaster, and former tech-industry CMO, Christopher Lochhead is a student of not only business and technology and marketing but also human nature, human folly, human genius, and very human joy.
Episode 6
In this episode, Chris and I discuss the role of Chief Growth Officer, a hybrid version of the CMO, the CIO, and the CDO. Chris wonders if it’s a stupid thing – or not. We also look at the fact that America is losing the AI war to China and Russia, and the lamestream media is not reporting on it. Chris also talks about how FaceApp, which projects you forward several years is – wait for it – created by Russia. And did you know that 23andMe uses your DNA for the benefit of the drug companies?
Later, the conversation turns to private equity. We discuss how and why “Value Extraction Engineers” are putting themselves first—as opposed to the founders, employees, and shareholders. Chris says, “If you lay down with dogs, don’t be surprised when you get fleas.”
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Each month, Tony Uphoff, visionary CEO of Thomasnet.com, joins Cloud Wars Live for a recurring segment. “Uphoff on Industry” will explore the innovations, upheavals, and breakthroughs reshaping the the world of manufacturing and industrial markets. Join Tony and me as we discuss disruptive new trends in the digital-industrial world: not just how products are designed, sourced and manufactured, but also the new ways in which industrial companies are getting up to speed on marketing, sales and customer experience.
Episode 4
In this episode: Tony and I discuss the future, and the near-past. We heartily agree on just how fortunate we have been to have had a ringside seat for the utter transformation of technology in recent years. (We also agree that if you aren’t fluent in technology change yet, you’re going to be left behind.) Next, Tony and I discuss how his company, ThomasNet.com, covers 72,000 categories—and the fact that every second, someone’s buying a product or service.
Tony goes on to explore the business implications of massive population shifts. Namely, that the Baby Boom generation and the Millennial generation are now roughly 50/50 in the workforce. Also that there will be 10 billion people on the planet by the year 2050 (which isn’t very long from now). Finally, Tony does a bit of a rant on the restaurant industry – which you definitely don’t want to miss.
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Each month, “Lochhead on Different” episodes will explore the need to differentiate people, products, and services in a world that encourages a lot of imitation. A best-selling author, top podcaster, and former tech-industry CMO, Christopher Lochhead is a student of not only business and technology and marketing but also human nature, human folly, human genius, and very human joy.
Episode 6
In this episode, Chris and I discuss how the Chief Growth Officer is a hybrid version of the CMO, the CIO, and the CDO. He wonders if it’s a stupid thing – or not. Chris goes on to say that we’re losing the AI war to China and Russia, and the lamestream media is not reporting on it. He also talks about how FaceApp, which projects you forward several years is – wait for it – created by Russia. And then he discusses how 23andme uses your DNA for the benefit of the drug companies.
The conversation then turns to private equity, and how “Value Extraction Engineers” are putting themselves first, as opposed to the founders, shareholders, and employees. Chris says, “If you lay down with dogs, don’t be surprised when you get fleas.”
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Each month, Tony Uphoff, visionary CEO of Thomasnet.com, joins Cloud Wars Live for a recurring segment. “Uphoff on Industry” will explore the innovations, upheavals, and breakthroughs reshaping the world of manufacturing and industrial markets. Join Tony and me as we discuss disruptive new trends in the digital-industrial world: not just how products are designed, sourced and manufactured, but also the new ways in which industrial companies are getting up to speed on marketing, sales and customer experience.
Episode 4
In this episode: Tony and I discuss how we’ve been fortunate to have a ringside seat on the transformation of technology – and how if you aren’t fluent, you’re going to be left behind. Next, we discuss how ThomasNet.com has 72,000 categories, and every second someone’s buying a product or service. Tony goes on to say how the Baby Boom generation and the Millennial generation are now 50/50 – and how there will be 10 billion people on the planet by the year 2050, which isn’t very long from now. And, he does a bit of a rant on the restaurant industry – which is something you don’t want to miss.
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Each month, “Ammirati on Innovation” episodes will look at ways that the disruptive-startup mentality is spreading beyond young entrepreneurs to big established corporations. Serial entrepreneur, venture capitalist and Carnegie Mellon B-school professor Sean Ammirati, who sits at the intersection of these high-change dynamics, provides insight.
Episode 3
In this episode, Sean and I talk about decision-making, from a couple of angles. First, we explore the choice that giant global corporations have to make when a new opportunity comes along. Namely, do we do this ourselves, or partner up to make it happen? We also affirm that companies can walk and chew gum at the same time— meaning that they need to care about customers AND users at the same time. Sean has a podcast called “Agile Giants,” where he interviews guests ranging from CEOs, CTOs, and VCs to authors. With that unique POV underpinning his thoughts on the subject, Sean tells us that Oracle and Microsoft teaming up together makes for strange bedfellows. Later, Sean reveals that knew he wanted to be a programmer from the age of seven (!!!).
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Each month, “Lochhead on Different” episodes will explore the need to differentiate people, products, and services in a world that encourages a lot of imitation. A best-selling author, top podcaster, and former tech-industry CMO, Christopher Lochhead is a student of not only business and technology and marketing but also human nature, human folly, human genius, and very human joy.
Episode 5
In this wide-ranging episode, Chris and I discuss Mary Meeker’s popular annual Internet Trends Report. Inside is a fact that caught Chris’ attention: today, 3.8 billion people are on the internet. So Chris explains why he believes we need to get the other half on it, too. Taking a somewhat opposite tack, we also debate the merits and the downsides of internet usage. The report reveals that Gen Z spends between 5 and 10 hours per day on their phones.
Next, the conversation turns to Cutco, a knife company whose mantra is “Changing lives by selling knives.” We look at how its employee experience differs from that of a Facebook or other leading tech companies. Then, Chris explains why your life is like a smile.
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“Wayne Sadin on Digital Strategy” episodes will explore the fast-changing and high-stakes world of digital business. We’ll focus on what CEOs and boards must do to lead their companies successfully into the Digital Age. Today, we talk about the relationship between boards and the C-suite, and the most important questions to ask an incoming CIO.
Episode 6
In this episode: Wayne and I discuss how the cloud is driving us to new features as we get things done faster. He also talks about how hyperscale is for Google, Amazon, Microsoft – and everybody else is going to be a second-class citizen. Later, he asks why invest in putting a million servers and data centers around the world? You could just as easily hire 5,000 developers and build an application that will make your customers so happy, they’ll never think about leaving.
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Each month, “Ammirati on Innovation” episodes will look at ways that the disruptive-startup mentality is spreading beyond young entrepreneurs to big established corporations. Serial entrepreneur, venture capitalist and Carnegie Mellon B-school professor Sean Ammirati, who sits at the intersection of these high-change dynamics, provides insight.
Episode 3
In this episode, Sean and I talk about how you can walk and chew gum at the same time – meaning that you need to care about your customers AND your users. Sean has a podcast called “Agile Giants,” where he interviews guests ranging from CEOs, CTOs, and VCs to authors. He speaks about how Oracle and Microsoft teaming up together makes for some pretty strange bedfellows. Later, Sean reveals that knew he wanted to be a programmer from the age of seven (?).
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Here’s my conversation with Arpan Shah, who is the General Manager for Azure Infrastructure Marketing at Microsoft. As the tech companies in our Cloud Wars Top 10 rankings drive transformation not just in individual corporations but also in entire global industries, it’s essential for business executives to understand the strategic intentions of each of these vendors. That’s what this new limited series is all about.
Episode 3: Microsoft
In this episode, Arpan and I discuss the most fascinating form of digital transformation he sees happening among Microsoft’s business customers. Plus, why hybrid cloud is so critically important at this moment in time. We explore the connections between hybrid and red-hot edge computing, and where Microsoft’s hybrid strategy is headed next. Press play to get some compelling insight from inside the Cloud Wars #1 vendor. (You’ll want to hear Arpan’s response to claims from Microsoft’s cloud competitors that they can do everything Microsoft can, and do it just as well.)
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Here’s my conversation with Juergen Mueller, CTO, and Christian Klein, COO. As the tech companies in our Cloud Wars Top 10 rankings drive transformation not just in individual corporations but also in entire global industries, it’s essential for business executives to understand the strategic intentions of each of these vendors. That’s what this new limited series is all about.
Episode 7: SAP
In this episode, Juergen explains how Qualtrics was a game-changing acquisition – and a very simple integration. He also discusses how SAP is not competing with the hyperscalers – they’re in a “co-opetition.” Christian describes how SAP has the ability to connect the pieces of the Intelligent Enterprise. He also describes how all industries are undergoing a huge transformation – and how SAP can help them transform through new business models, data analytics, and AI.
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Each month, Tony Uphoff, visionary CEO of Thomasnet.com, joins Cloud Wars Live for a recurring segment. “Uphoff on Industry” will explore the innovations, upheavals, and breakthroughs reshaping the world of manufacturing and industrial markets. Join Tony and me as we discuss disruptive new trends in the digital-industrial world: not just how products are designed, sourced and manufactured, but also the new ways in which industrial companies are getting up to speed on marketing, sales and customer experience.
Episode 3
In this episode, Tony and I look at a the “flywheel” effect, with simple systems that companies don’t need to think about. Next, he switches to how 17 year-old Formula 1 drivers grew up in the age of simulators, using them thousands and thousands of times. Tony discusses the role of MRO (maintenance, repair, and operations), and how it may change to “optimization,” which could be a new machine – or a new capability. And he talks about how AI and ML have emerged, and we’re starting to see levels of scale and speed – and also applications that we haven’t thought of before.
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Each month, “Lochhead on Different” episodes will explore the need to differentiate people, products, and services in a world that encourages a lot of imitation. A best-selling author, top podcaster, and former tech-industry CMO, Christopher Lochhead is a student of not only business and technology and marketing but also human nature, human folly, human genius, and very human joy.
Episode 5
In this wide-ranging episode, Chris and I discuss how Mary Meeker’s report says over 3.8 billion people are on the internet – and we need to get the other half on it too. We also look at how 34% of workers say they’re engaged – and the rest of them?? We turn to Cutco, a knife company that has the mantra is “Changing lives by selling knives” and how it turned itself into a personal growth company. Then, Chris discusses how your life is like a smile. From from zero to 20 you’re pretty happy, but from 25 to 45, happiness starts to drop off as we build our careers, meet spouses, and collaborate in the manufacture of human beings. Then we begin to come out the other side and the happiness curve goes back up.
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Each month, seasoned executive Tony Uphoff joins Cloud Wars Live for a recurring segment. “Uphoff on Industry” will explore the innovations, upheavals, and breakthroughs reshaping the the world of manufacturing and industrial markets. Join monthly guest Tony Uphoff, CEO of Thomasnet.com, and me as we discuss disruptive new trends in the digital-industrial world: not just how products are designed, sourced and manufactured, but also the new ways in which industrial companies are getting up to speed on marketing, sales and customer experience.
Episode 1
In this episode, Tony and I look at how the world of work is changing. No longer starkly divided between white collar and blue collar, today “new collar” jobs are on the rise. We also debunk some misunderstandings about U.S. manufacturing. (Hint: the U.S. remains a formidable power, with 248,000 new jobs created in 2018.) Finally, we dive into some less-discussed forms of digital transformation: now that the B2B buyer has gone online, there are fewer habit- and knowledge-gaps between the millennial and the baby boom generations.
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Each month, “Ammirati on Innovation” episodes will look at ways that the disruptive-startup mentality is spreading beyond young entrepreneurs to big established corporations. Serial entrepreneur, venture capitalist and Carnegie Mellon B-school professor Sean Ammirati, who sits at the intersection of these high-change dynamics, provides insight.
Episode 2
In this episode, Sean and I celebrate big, legacy businesses taking innovation “moonshots.” What about the Disney+ strategy makes it a Netflix killer. Why SAP + Qualtrics is a killer idea. And how Satya Nadella just might be the killer CEO of the decade. Sean also talks us through his belief that grocery chains, manufacturers, automotive companies, and others need to figure out what their own version of Disney+ looks like—and get started on building it. Because as Sean says, we cannot relegate innovation to a subset of the economy and a subset of society.
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Here’s my conversation with Leighanne Levensaler, Senior Vice President of Corporate Strategy for Workday. This is also episode eight of “Cloud Wars Top 10 Executive Insights.” As the tech companies in our Cloud Wars Top 10 rankings drive transformation not just in individual corporations but also in entire global industries, it’s essential for business executives to understand the strategic intentions of each of these vendors. That’s what this new limited series is all about.
Episode 8: Workday
As Senior Vice President of Corporate Strategy for Workday, Leighanne discusses how machine learning is sewn into the fabric of Workday, so that every feature can be more personalized and more predictive. Workday has a customer base that is 2,700 strong, and they have opened up their APIs to customers so they can extend their experience in a multi-cloud environment. Leighanne also talks about how Workday has always taken the harder, longer road, managing not for just the quarter – but for generations. And, she discusses how and why she frequents Workday customer Panera, which is not mobile-first, but mobile-only.
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Here’s my conversation with Juergen Mueller, CTO, and Christian Klein, COO. As the tech companies in our Cloud Wars Top 10 rankings drive transformation not just in individual corporations but also in entire global industries, it’s essential for business executives to understand the strategic intentions of each of these vendors. That’s what this new limited series is all about.
Episode 7: SAP
In this episode, Juergen explains how Qualtrics was a game-changing acquisition – and a very simple integration. He also discusses how SAP is not competing with the hyperscalers – they’re in a “co-opetition.” Christian describes how SAP has the ability to connect the pieces of the Intelligent Enterprise. He also describes how all industries are undergoing a huge transformation – and how SAP can help them transform through new business models, data analytics, and AI.
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Each month Tony Uphoff, visionary CEO of Thomasnet.com, joins Cloud Wars Live for a recurring segment. “Uphoff on Industry” will explore the innovations, upheavals, and breakthroughs reshaping the world of manufacturing and industrial markets. Join Tony and me as we discuss disruptive new trends in the digital-industrial world: not just how products are designed, sourced and manufactured, but also the new ways in which industrial companies are getting up to speed on marketing, sales and customer experience.
Episode 2
In this episode, Tony and I look at how additive manufacturing (3D printing) is providing factories with products from simple to complex, and how digital twinning – a digital representation of a physical asset – is a game-changer. We also discuss how a digital ledger, (blockchain) opens up “tons of opportunities” for manufacturers. Tony thinks that technological change precedes cultural change, and that industry is leading the way with robotics and automation.
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Here’s my conversation with Oracle's Steve Daheb, and the latest episode of “Cloud Wars Top 10 Executive Insights.” As the tech companies in our Cloud Wars Top 10 rankings drive transformation not just in individual corporations but also in entire global industries, it’s essential for business executives to understand the strategic intentions of each of these vendors. That’s what this new limited series is all about.
Episode 6: Oracle
As Senior Vice President of Oracle’s Cloud Business Group, Steve is bringing a strong business and customer orientation to the market. If he’s right, the TaylorMade Golf Company is seeing not a 40% improvement in performance – but a 40X improvement. And The Hertz Corporation, which used to provision a database in eight weeks, can now do it in eight minutes. He goes on to say how having an open platform gives customers a choice of hybrid, heterogenous, and multi-cloud – and how cloud flips the script from 20% innovation to 80% innovation.
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“Wayne Sadin on Digital Strategy” episodes will explore the fast-changing and high-stakes world of digital business. We’ll focus on what CEOs and boards must do to lead their companies successfully into the Digital Age. Today, we talk about the relationship between boards and the C-suite, and the most important questions to ask an incoming CIO.
Episode 5
In this episode: Wayne and I discuss Wayne’s favorite subject: technical debt. Wayne, who has served as CIO, CTO, and CDO, laments the fact that most boards talk to their CIO maybe four times a year (not enough). He shares the first question he would ask, as a member of the board, to an incoming CIO (and what he’d want the answer to be). Plus, Wayne and Bob explore why IT shops tend to have an overabundance of technicians who want to turn the knobs and play with the dials, but not enough “human factors” people. Watch for all this and more, and to find out what Wayne means when he says that he never wants to be a Dilbert cartoon.
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Cloud Wars caught up with TJ Graven, Under Armour's Senior Vice President of Global IT, at SAP Sapphire Now 2019 in Orlando. As a long-term customer of Qualtrics and now of SAP, Under Armour is already gaining an enhanced understanding of their own customers through the combination of operational data and experience data: the Xs and Os that make up experience management.
TJ and Bob discuss how 21 years of innovation at Under Armour shapes how the company runs today. Plus, TJ shares his plans for increasing transparency throughout the organization, measuring success, and bringing on the right talent in a highly competitive environment.
Highlights:
▪️ "Understanding our business deeply allows us to really be thoughtful and anticipate where things are going."
▪️ "I don't have a separate technology strategy... Our success is all measured in the same way. It's making our consumers better, making our athletes better."
▪️ "Technology's impact on the way we work and the way we live and the way we transact our business is something that you can't expect a single person to see."
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Here’s my conversation with ServiceNow Chief Innovation Officer Dave Wright, the latest episode of “Cloud Wars Top 10 Executive Insights.” As the tech companies in our Cloud Wars Top 10 rankings drive transformation not just in individual corporations but also in entire global industries, it’s essential for business executives to understand the strategic intentions of each of these vendors. That’s what this new limited series is all about.
Episode 5: ServiceNow
I sat down with Dave Wright, who is the Chief Innovation Officer at ServiceNow. In this episode, Dave discusses ServiceNow’s particular approach to keeping companies both as relevant and as agile as possible. We also talk trends in digital transformation, tectonic shifts in ways of working, and enterprise-wide workflows that mirror seamless customer experiences. And Dave shares some examples of ServiceNow’s “systems of action,” including how partners like Deloitte get creative not just in systems implementation – but also in building their own world-shaping applications.
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Each month, “Christopher Lochhead on Different” episodes will explore the need to differentiate people, products, and services in a world that encourages a lot of imitation. A best-selling author, top podcaster, and former tech-industry CMO, Chris is a student of not only business and technology and marketing but also human nature, human folly, human genius, and very human joy.
Episode 4
In this episode, Chris and I discuss how Uber wants to be the Uber of everything, how Chris Hughes is a Facebook critic, and how the Wall Street Journal reports that we’re at the lowest level of entrepreneurship in history. We also discuss how instead of going to Disney’s Millennium Falcon, with their $400 French fries and $25 Cokes, you should take your kid for a walk in the woods. Oh, and we discuss how the fatal selfie is maybe what Darwin intended.
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“Wayne Sadin on Digital Strategy” episodes will explore the fast-changing and high-stakes world of digital business. We’ll focus on what CEOs and boards must do to lead their companies successfully into the Digital Age. Today, we talk about how hyperscalers enable you to not be in the server maintenance or virus patching business.
Episode 5
In this episode, Wayne and I discuss his favorite subject: technical debt. We also discuss how most boards talk to their CIO four times a year, how IT shops have an overabundance of technicians who want to turn the knobs and play with the dials, and how he never wants to be a Dilbert cartoon.
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In this episode of "Cloud Wars Top 10 Executive Insights," Harish Grama, General Manager, IBM Public Cloud, and I discuss how IBM’s Hybrid Cloud is transforming customer strategies. Harish has worked with thousands of developers, and managed a budget of hundreds of millions to build out IBM’s Hybrid Cloud strategy – including SoftLayer, Bluemix, Cloud Managed Services, and OpenStack in public, dedicated, and local deployment models. He left IBM briefly for a two-year stint at JPMorgan Chase but returned in 2018.
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In this episode of Cloud Wars Top 10 Executive Insights, Arpan Shah and I discuss how over 95% of the Fortune 500 are on Microsoft Cloud, how customers are now asking not why should I move to the cloud — but how should I move to the cloud, and how a hybrid model is what customers want today.
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Cloud Wars caught up with Qualtrics CEO Ryan Smith during SAP’s big Sapphire 2019 event in Orlando. About 6 months after agreeing to an acquisition by SAP and about 3 months after the deal was completed, the Qualtrics co-founder and Chief Executive had some compelling insights and stories to share.
We discussed how SAP’s global presence is helping Qualtrics scale at a pace that would have otherwise been impossible. Ryan shared his unique expertise and insight into why experience management is the solution that businesses need today and will need even more tomorrow. And I got a look at how Ryan sees Qualtrics fitting into and strengthening the SAP cloud. Watch to get a look behind the curtain of a deal that has sparked transformation and innovation at one of the world’s top enterprise tech vendors.
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In this episode of Cloud Wars Top 10 Executive Insights, Will Grannis and I discuss how Google Cloud is helping drive innovation and growth for businesses and breakthrough experiences for customers – and, how to unlock the transformative power of the cloud with data analytics and machine learning. We also explore how the cloud can enable data-driven business models that would never have been feasible before.
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In this episode of "Cloud Wars Top 10 Executive Insights," Larry Socher and I discuss what Accenture's learned in 20,000 tech projects with clients, and how he manages to remain a trusted partner to hyperscalers AWS, Azure, and Google Cloud -- as well as to all the major SaaS vendors.
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In this second episode of "Cloud Wars Top 10 Executive Insights," Larry Socher and I discuss what Accenture's learned in 20,000 tech projects with clients, and how he manages to remain a trusted partner to hyperscalers AWS, Azure, and Google Cloud -- as well as to all the major SaaS vendors.
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In this episode of Cloud Wars Top 10 Executive Insights, Will Grannis and I discuss how Google Cloud is helping drive innovation and growth for businesses and breakthrough experiences for customers – and, how to unlock the transformative power of the cloud with data analytics and machine learning. We also explore how the cloud can enable data-driven business models that would never have been feasible before.
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Each month, “Ammirati on Innovation” episodes will look at ways that the disruptive-startup mentality is spreading beyond young entrepreneurs to big established corporations. Serial entrepreneur, venture capitalist and Carnegie Mellon B-school professor Sean Ammirati, who sits at the intersection of these high-change dynamics, provides insight.
Episode 2:
In this episode, Sean – a Digital All-Star – and I discuss how Disney+ is a Netflix killer, how SAP and Qualtrics is a killer idea, and how Satya Nadella just might be the killer CEO of the decade. He also talks about how grocery chains, manufacturers, automotive companies, and others need to think about what’s my version of Disney+.
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Each month, “Christopher Lochhead on Different” episodes will explore the need to differentiate people, products, and services in a world that encourages a lot of imitation. A best-selling author, top podcaster, and former tech-industry CMO, Chris is a student of not only business and technology and marketing but also human nature, human folly, human genius, and very human joy.
Episode 3:
In this episode, Chris – a Digital All-Star – and I discuss how tech companies (including Zoom, Pinterest, and Lyft) are going public again, and how Eric Yuan of Zoom had to apply nine times for immigration papers. Plus – how in America, making money is a good thing, and how if you begin to view yourself as a personal entrepreneur your employer is not your employer but your client.
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Wayne Sadin is one of our Digital All-Stars. In this episode, Wayne and I explore the topics of continual ERP updates, the rise of the financial management suite, and how partnering with competitors – and even customers – is becoming a new paradigm.
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Andreas Larsson is the Engineering Director of Electrolux, a 100 year-old Swedish company whose products include washers/dryers, ovens, refrigerators, and vacuum cleaners. His company uses the values and principles of agile and lean to develop high quality products and services that help customers be more successful.
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Each month, Uphoff on Industry will explore the innovations, upheavals, and breakthroughs reshaping the the world of manufacturing and industrial markets. Join monthly guest Tony Uphoff, CEO of Thomasnet.com, and me as we discuss disruptive new trends in the digital-industrial world, ranging from how not just how products are designed, sourced and manufactured, but also the new ways in which industrial companies are getting up to speed on marketing, sales and customer experience.
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In this sponsored episode of Cloud Wars Live, I interview two executives from Apps Associates – an expert in cloud migration, and a managed services provider – in a program that debunks the top five myths about Oracle migration. They are:
- It’s too difficult to navigate license compliance
- It’s not feasible to move Oracle applications to the cloud
- Cybersecurity concerns outrank cloud benefits
- My company can’t afford cloud migration
- Oracle applications users have limited cloud options
Among the topics discussed are how change management is preventing companies from moving forward, how you’re not more likely or less likely to get audited if you transition to a third-party cloud, and how on-prem is more likely to cause a data breach – usually from within.
The executives are Bill Saltys, SVP, Alliances; and Paul Vian, SVP, Sales and Marketing.
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Kris Cowles is Vice President, Global Applications IT at Topcon Positioning Systems. She previously held the position of Director, Engineering Operations at Cisco. Kris's company operates in three segments: The Positioning Business, which uses high-precision GNSS positing technology to achieve the automation of civil engineering construction and farming; the Smart Infrastructure Business, which applies the surveying technology we have developed since our founding in the fields of infrastructure development and structural maintenance and management; and the Eye Care Business, which offers advanced solutions in the field of ophthalmology.
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Wayne Sadin is one of our Digital All-Stars. In this episode, Wayne and I explore the topics of continual ERP updates, the rise of the financial management suite, and how partnering with competitors – and even customers – is becoming a new paradigm.
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Watch a new episode of Cloud Wars Live with Dean Del Vecchio, EVP, CIO, and Chief of Operations at Guardian Life. In addition to defining and implementing a strategic technology vision aligned with Guardian’s long-term growth initiatives and ongoing business objectives, Dean is responsible for leading enterprise customer service and operations. He provides strategic oversight for Guardian’s shared services organization in India, as well as Real Estate and Facilities, Physical Security, Office Services, Source to Pay, and Enterprise Imaging.
Dean's significant leadership experience driving strategic growth using innovative solutions across the banking, healthcare, and news media industries has helped Guardian think differently about how to leverage technology to grow, service customers, and evolve as a company.
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Andreas Larsson is the Engineering Director of Electrolux, a 100 year-old Swedish company whose products include washers/dryers, ovens, refrigerators, and vacuum cleaners. His company uses the values and principles of agile and lean to develop high quality products and services that help customers be more successful.
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Watch a new episode of Cloud Wars Live with Dean Del Vecchio, EVP, CIO, and Chief of Operations at Guardian Life. In addition to defining and implementing a strategic technology vision aligned with Guardian’s long-term growth initiatives and ongoing business objectives, Dean is responsible for leading enterprise customer service and operations. He provides strategic oversight for Guardian’s shared services organization in India, as well as Real Estate and Facilities, Physical Security, Office Services, Source to Pay, and Enterprise Imaging.
Dean's significant leadership experience driving strategic growth using innovative solutions across the banking, healthcare, and news media industries has helped Guardian think differently about how to leverage technology to grow, service customers, and evolve as a company.
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Each month, “Ammirati on Innovation” episodes will look at ways that the disruptive-startup mentality is spreading beyond young entrepreneurs to big established corporations. Serial entrepreneur, venture capitalist and Carnegie Mellon B-school professor Sean Ammirati, who sits at the intersection of these high-change dynamics, provides insight.
Episode 1
In this episode, Sean and I discuss what innovation looks like in 2019: where it’s coming from, who gets funding for their ideas and how, and why cloud has been so transformative in terms of the business models for entrepreneurs and innovators. Sean also shares his thoughts on the recent story about Lyft and Amazon’s $8-million-per-month partnership for AWS services. (Spoiler alert: he thinks it’s worth every penny.)
Sean Ammirati is a partner at Birchmere Ventures, which focuses on both SaaS and consumer internet investments, as well as their Birchmere Labs initiative. He is also an Adjunct Professor of Entrepreneurship at Carnegie Mellon University’s Tepper School, and hosts a podcast series called “Agile Giants.”
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Brian King oversees all of Marriott's worldwide digital, sales, distribution, revenue management and customer engagement efforts. Brian's organization ensures a thoughtful approach to blending high-tech and high-touch services that ultimately drive revenue and customer loyalty for life. Marriott’s digital channels generate over 17 billion in sales annually and our customer engagement centers host over 65 million interactions each year.
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Josh Greenbaum is an industry analyst and consultant who’s been following the enterprise software market for 30 years. Join Bob Evans as they discuss how tech companies have to stop showing how pretty their underwear is, and how vendors are selling product the way they build it; not how it is consumed. Josh also discusses his passion project, the U.S. Vote Foundation. (https://www.usvotefoundation.org/)
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In this episode of our Digital All-Stars series, Bob Evans and Chris Lochhead discuss exponentialists vs. incrementalists, how Airbnb couldn’t get arrested, and how Henry Ford was not improving on the horse.
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Each month, “Ammirati on Innovation” episodes will look at ways that the disruptive-startup mentality is spreading beyond young entrepreneurs to big established corporations. Serial entrepreneur, venture capitalist and Carnegie Mellon B-school professor Sean Ammirati, who sits at the intersection of these high-change dynamics, provides insight.
Episode 1
In this episode, Sean and I discuss what innovation looks like in 2019: where it’s coming from, who gets funding for their ideas and how, and why cloud has been so transformative in terms of the business models for entrepreneurs and innovators. Sean also shares his thoughts on the recent story about Lyft and Amazon’s $8-million-per-month partnership for AWS services. (Spoiler alert: he thinks it’s worth every penny.)
Sean Ammirati is a partner at Birchmere Ventures, which focuses on both SaaS and consumer internet investments, as well as their Birchmere Labs initiative. He is also an Adjunct Professor of Entrepreneurship at Carnegie Mellon University’s Tepper School, and hosts a podcast series called “Agile Giants.”
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“Wayne Sadin on Digital Strategy” episodes will explore the fast-changing and high-stakes world of digital business. We’ll focus on what CEOs and boards must do to lead their companies successfully into the Digital Age. Today, we talk about cybersecurity, the C-Suite and how businesses can avoid becoming Equifax, the sequel.
Episode 3
In this episode, Wayne and I look at how cybersecurity has become a strategic imperative in the Digital Age. We explore the topics of “technical debt” and “technical hygiene” as they relate to cybersecurity. Plus, Wayne explains how business leaders can fight back hard against increasingly sophisticated invaders.
KEY CONCEPTS* “Technical debt” isn’t some arcane accounting term. It’s a strategic issue that CIOs and CEOs must confront together before that debt crushes them and possibly their company. * “Technical hygiene,” as Wayne explains, is critical. The bad guys are getting smarter, more sophisticated, more relentless and more aggressive, so business leaders need to fight back hard against these invaders.
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Pierre-Luc Bisaillon is a seasoned executive with more than twenty years of experience in the technology industry. Pierre-Luc leads the global IT organization at Cirque du Soleil. His background is a unique combination of strategy consulting, entrepreneurship and technology, enabling him to provide sharp insights and impactful recommendations.
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Founded in 1905, Red Wing Shoes boots protect workers in more than one hundred countries across the world. As CIO and VP of Innovation, Mark Kermisch oversees all IT functions worldwide including the PMO, Application Development, Infrastructure, Support, Security, IT Business Partners and eCommerce. His team develops software that supports our retail, wholesale, supply chain, manufacturing, sales, and eCommerce business teams. Marc is also responsible for Red Wing's innovation center, The Garage which is focused on crafting our future products, services, and experiences.
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It's all about speed. Bobby Berry heads a team that is transforming Fruit of the Loom for the digital age, where consumers expect up-to-the-minute styles, and partners expect the latest in digital business platforms.
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Dion Hinchcliffe is an internationally recognized thought leader, IT expert, business strategist, enterprise architect, book author, frequent keynote speaker, analyst, and transformation consultant. Dion works with the leadership teams of Fortune 500 and Global 2000 firms to drive successful change with emerging digital methods including enterprise social media, online community, cloud computing, data centers, digital business models, Internet ecosystems, workforce collaboration, and the future of work. Dion has been featured or quoted in CIO Magazine, Computerworld, Fast Company, Wired, The Wall Street Journal, Forbes, and BusinessWeek.
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In this episode of Cloud Wars Live, Bob Evans and Wayne Sadin discuss the various members of the C-Suite -- including the CDO, CMO, CRO, and COO.
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In this episode of Cloud Wars Live, Bob Evans and Chris Louchhead discuss the coming niche-nado, solving old problems in new ways -- and backyard chickens.
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Founded in 1905, Red Wing Shoes boots protect workers in more than one hundred countries across the world. As CIO and VP of Innovation, Mark Kermisch oversees all IT functions worldwide including the PMO, Application Development, Infrastructure, Support, Security, IT Business Partners and eCommerce. His team develops software that supports our retail, wholesale, supply chain, manufacturing, sales, and eCommerce business teams. Marc is also responsible for Red Wing's innovation center, The Garage which is focused on crafting our future products, services, and experiences.
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Each month, "Wayne Sadin on Digital Strategy" episodes will explore the fast-changing and high-stakes world of digital business, with a focus on what CEOs and boards must do to lead their companies successfully into the Digital Age. Today, we talk about why CEOs must set the...
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On this episode of Cloud Wars Live, hear how CarMax is disrupting the used-car industry with its its online presence and its no-haggle pricing. Join Bob Evans of Evans Strategic Communications and Shamim Mohammad, SVP and CIO of CarMax as they explore the consumer buying experience and CarMax’s recent adoption of Salesforce.com.
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Founded by Richard Branson, Virgin Trains is a UK-based company that’s revolutionizing the railway industry. Whether traveling for work, for family and friends, or to the UK’s most iconic destinations, Virgin Trains (https://www.virgintrains.co.uk) will help you arrive relaxed and refreshed. And as you’ll see from Bob Evans’s awesome interview, you’ll be entertained along your journey.
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Lou Senko has a 20+ year career leading the architectural design, development, implementation, and integration of enterprisewide solutions to meet global business, financial, and market demands. He is skilled in building, integrating, optimizing and expanding enterprise technologies, teams and processes to achieve compliance, reduce costs, and enable growth. Lou is also a member of the Forbes Technology Council, and previously held the position of Director of Technology for the Michael & Susan Dell Foundation.
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Dion Hinchcliffe is an internationally recognized thought leader, IT expert, business strategist, enterprise architect, book author, frequent keynote speaker, analyst, and transformation consultant. Dion works with the leadership teams of Fortune 500 and Global 2000 firms to drive successful change with emerging digital methods including enterprise social media, online community, cloud computing, data centers, digital business models, Internet ecosystems, workforce collaboration, and the future of work. Dion has been featured or quoted in CIO Magazine, Computerworld, Fast Company, Wired, The Wall Street Journal, Forbes, and BusinessWeek.
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Dan Drawbaugh is Chief Executive Officer of The Steadman Clinic and the Steadman Philippon Research Institute in Vail, Colorado. As CEO, Dan leads a team of talented physicians, researchers and scientists who make TSC and SPRI one of the most sought after orthopaedic sports medicine destination centers globally. Dan is a proven leader and innovator in healthcare information technology with over 30 years of experience in the areas of information and biomedical technologies. He has served on a number of boards, including the Oracle Advisory Board, IBM Advisory Board, and Verizon Wireless Advisory Board.
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Den Howlett provides strategic product direction support to a variety of enterprise vendors, along with delivering M&A due diligence services. The last five years, he’s been part of the founding team at diginomica, a media property that found a way of breaking away from the ad-driven model that dominates most digital media. Previously, he co-launched Information Week in the UK (1996-7) and was a contributor to numerous IT titles, winding up with a four-year stint at ZDNet.
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Founded by Richard Branson, Virgin Trains is a UK-based company that’s revolutionizing the railway industry. Whether traveling for work, for family and friends, or to the UK’s most iconic destinations, Virgin Trains (https://www.virgintrains.co.uk) will help you arrive relaxed and refreshed. And as you’ll see from Bob Evans’s awesome interview, you’ll be entertained along your journey.
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Pierre-Luc Bisaillon is a seasoned executive with more than twenty years of experience in the technology industry. Pierre-Luc leads the global IT organization at Cirque du Soleil. His background is a unique combination of strategy consulting, entrepreneurship and technology, enabling him to provide sharp insights and impactful recommendations.
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Tom Fisher is a legendary executive with a successful record of accomplishment nationally and internationally for the development, implementation and delivery of solutions on the Internet, eCommerce, Software as a Service (SaaS) and other high technology sectors. He is currently EVP and CTO of MapR Technologies, which is the industry’s leading platform for AI and analytics.
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Dr. Ganesh Kumar has been the Chief Operating Officer and Senior Executive Vice President of OFG Bancorp since March 2017. He served as the Chief Financial Officer of Oriental Financial Group Inc. since January 2012 until March 2017 and served as its Executive Vice President until March 2017. Dr. Kumar is responsible for corporate finance, strategic planning, accounting and financial reporting and business analytics.
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From NASA to his latest venture, THRIVE, Joe Stafura is a visionary who is always three steps ahead of technological change.
Joe’s Affective Computing Company provides solutions to complex environments such as distributed work forces, multidisciplinary work teams, and value chain management and assessment across different organizations.
Its flagship product, THRIVE (www.gothrive.io) is a unique, and sustainable option to traditional training, coaching and consulting options. Its modern design provides professional communicators and managers the ability to build long-running sets of learning conversations, leveraging the knowledge of the organization and trusted expert sources.
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In his role at Care.com, Dan Giurleo is responsible for the evaluation and negotiation of global ERP and EPM technology platforms. He led the execution of a global Workday Financials implementation, including data model design, business process definition, system configuration, roles and security definition, data conversion, testing, and report design.
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Tony Uphoff is an award-winning digital media, live event, and marketing services executive. He is an accomplished operating executive with an unparalleled track record of building, growing and transforming media and marketing businesses. Tony’s transformative leadership of companies, cultures, people, and organizational performance led to building the largest single brand in B2B – InformationWeek – and to the sale of CMP Media to UBM for $940M. He was also responsible for leading The Hollywood Reporter to surpass rival Variety in market share for first time in its 75-year history.
He is now President and CEO of Thomasnet.com, a 120 year-old company that's the leading platform for product sourcing, supplier selection and actionable information for industrial decision makers and the marketers looking to reach, engage and sell to them. Thomasnet.com, Thomas Marketing Services, and Thomas Product Data Solutions form the largest, most advanced marketing system in the world for the industrial markets.
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Sean Ammirati is a partner at Birchmere Ventures focused on both SaaS and Consumer Internet investments as well as their Birchmere Labs (www.birchmerelabs.com) initiative and an Adjunct Professor of Entrepreneurship at Carnegie Mellon University’s Tepper School.
Most Recently Sean was COO of ReadWriteWeb, one of the most influential sites about the future of technology and innovation. In December 2011, the company was acquired by SAY Media to strengthen its technology channel. Sean was previously co-founder and CEO of mSpoke, which was the first acquisition of LinkedIn.
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Stuart Bashford is the digital officer for the Swiss-based Bühler Group, a $3B, family-owned company that is 158 years old. Every day, billions of people use Bühler technologies and solutions to satisfy their basic needs for food, mobility, or communication. Hear Stuart discuss cloud, AI, and the Internet of Things.
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It's all about speed. Bobby Berry heads a team that is transforming Fruit of the Loom for the digital age, where consumers expect up-to-the-minute styles, and partners expect the latest in digital business platforms.
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As Senior Director responsible for Murad's entire portfolio of global Oracle applications and IT services, Rish Sinha focuses on coordination with technology and its business partners to provide a consensus-based enterprise solutions that are scalable, adaptable, and in synchronization with ever-changing business needs.
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Christian Anschuetz is UL’s Chief Digital Officer (CDO) where he is responsible for identifying, prioritizing and embedding technology innovation and digital trends into the vision, strategy, and operating models required to sustain and accelerate the company’s growth. Before assuming the role of CDO, he served as UL’s global Chief Information Officer. He is also a director of ProjectRELO, which is dedicated to transforming America’s perspective on the value and character of our veterans through intense and immersive business leadership training exercises.
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Brian King oversees all of Marriott's worldwide digital, sales, distribution, revenue management and customer engagement efforts. Brian's organization ensures a thoughtful approach to blending high-tech and high-touch services that ultimately drive revenue and customer loyalty for life. Marriott’s digital channels generate over 17 billion in sales annually and our customer engagement centers host over 65 million interactions each year.
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Chris Lochhead is founder of LOCHHEAD Enterprises, Inc., and previously held positions as chief marketing officer for Mercury Interactive (acquired by HP), and Scient.
He is an Amazon #1 Best Selling co-author of “Niche Down: How To Become Legendary By Being Different" and the Harper Collins' "instant classic,” "Play Bigger: How Pirates, Dreamers and Innovators Create and Dominate Markets."
He is also the host of “Legends & Losers” which has been called "The Podcast Silicon Valley Needs." New York Times bestselling author Hal Elrod says the show is, "one of the best podcasts of all time." Known for raw, authentic dialog with humor that is "just off enough, to be totally on." Legends & Losers is the podcast for people who want to design a legendary life and a legendary business. Visit Chris at www.lochhead.com.
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Kris Cowles is Vice President, Global Applications IT at Topcon Positioning Systems. She previously held the position of Director, Engineering Operations at Cisco. Kris's company operates in three segments: The Positioning Business, which uses high-precision GNSS positing technology to achieve the automation of civil engineering construction and farming; the Smart Infrastructure Business, which applies the surveying technology we have developed since our founding in the fields of infrastructure development and structural maintenance and management; and the Eye Care Business, which offers advanced solutions in the field of ophthalmology.
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Wayne Sadin is chief digital officer and chief technology officer for Affinitas Life, which is targeting the 76 million Baby Boomers who want to live in metropolitan areas, and would like to continue to contribute to society through professional careers and volunteer work. He began his career at Data-Link Systems/Fiserv Lending Solutions, and has held a number of positions in the financial services and technology industries. He also serves on a number of boards, including FSA Logisitx Inc. and the National Association of Corporate Directors.
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CarMax is disrupting the used-car industry with its its online presence and its no-haggle pricing. Join Bob Evans of Evans Strategic Communications, and Shamim Mohammad, SVP and CIO of CarMax as they explore the consumer buying experience and CarMax's recent adoption of Salesforce.com.
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As chief technology officer for Microsoft Services, Norm Judah has what he considers, “the best role in the company.” He works on both the customer side and the vendor side of enterprise technology, and those combined perspectives are uniquely valuable in today’s high-paced and turbulent business world. Hear Norm discuss artificial intelligence, bots, Microsoft HoloLens, and much more.
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