OK, let's wrap things up. The SF team began to break up in the late 80's, and it became harder and harder to "get the band back together". It's natural for this to happen--people have lives after all. I had found a creative outlet in public access cable TV in Columbus, OH. I was involved in two comedy shows, one of which resulted in an arrest (more on that soon), then began ten years of the "Vast Wasteland" TV show, the ancestor of one of our current podcasts.