This podcast includes accounts of primary headship within a trust; the experience of moving from headteacher to CEO; practical ways for building pupils’ self-esteem; reflections on how we can better shape young people’s career choices; and Sir John Rowling’s description of his own headship and how it morphed into the work of PiXL (Partners in Excellence).

1 Gemma Fairclough, Headteacher, Skinners Kent Primary School 2 Sian Carr, Executive Principal, Skinners Kent Academy / ASCL Immediate Past President 3 Ian Fenn, Headteacher, Burnage Academy for Boys, Manchester 4 Grace Barrett, Co-Founder, The Self-Esteem Team 5 Nick Chambers, Chief Executive, Education & Employers 6 Richard Sheriff, Executive Headteacher/CEO, Red Kite Learning Trust / ASCL Vice-President 7 Sir John Rowling, Founder Director, PiXL