In an unexpected move - well, unexpected for Joe, at least – we revisit an episode from 2017. Eight years ago we had a stab at writing our own creeds and now, having completely forgotten even doing it, we go back to see what we wrote and whether we still agree with it. Also we have important clarifications about cauliflowers, and we worry whether both the podcast and our lives are now travelling in reverse.

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Mentioned in this episode:

• Romanesco broccoli
• Self-similarity
• An idiot’s guide to the Council of Nicea’s big posh creed of compromise | Premier Christianity
• Mid-faith Crisis Episode 22: The schism starts here
• Epistula Apostolorum