Alien Crash Site: Recent Episodes

Caitlin McShea

A new InterPlanetary interview series from the Santa Fe Institute takes a page from the Strugatsky brothers' classic Soviet sci-fi novel, Roadside Picnic, to discuss a variety of transformative alien artifacts.

Thirteen years ago, an alien civilization visited our planet, and left behind myriad, mysterious materials in their crash sites. These areas, Zones, behave very strangely, but the interplanetary items they contain could change the trajectory of our technological advancement. What appears as a hoop might actually be a perpetual-motion machine. What appears as a slime might alter space-time.

Spend too much time in the Zone and your genes might mutate, your bones might dissolve, your body might be ground into meat. If you’re lucky enough to make it out alive, you’ll likely be imprisoned. But a successful trip in and out of the Zone could alter human history. Do you dare? And for what?

Hosted by Caitlin McShea.

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Learn more about what was discussed in this Alien Crash Site episode by clicking through the links below:

  • Lindy’s homepage
  • Psyche Mission
  • ASU's InterPlanetary Initiative
  • Vesta
  • Kleopatra
  • Maxar
  • Henry Stone at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory
  • Voyager Mission - Gravity Assist
  • LucyMission
  • DARTMission
  • Psyche Inspired

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  • Gary’s homepage.
  • Unfettered journey
  • Dan Dennett
  • Eugene Wigner
  • Michael's Complexity Podcast interview with David Kinney
  • 2019 IPFest World Building panel discussion
  • Geoffrey West’s Scale
  • Hanson's Age of Em
  • SFI Symposium AI and the Barrier of Meaning
  • ACtioN Climate Change seminar - Complexity of Sustainability
  • Peter Turchin
  • Bob May's 1972 paper: "Will a Large Complex System be Stable?"
  • Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged
  • Paul Smaldino's work on covert signaling
  • Peter Watt’s Blindsight
  • Asimov’s Foundation trilogy

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New School Policy and Design for Outer Space

SFI’s InterPlanetary Project

Aging, Adaptation, and the Arrow of Time - A James S. McDonnell Foundation funded research track on Complex Time

Complex Time video playlist

InterPlanetary 2019 panel on Complex Time, featuring Sean Carroll

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To learn more about items mentioned in this podcast:

  • Natalie's homepage
  • Co-Ordination: On Time Between Worlds - An InterPlanetary Panel discussion on Complex Time
  • Chris Kempes's Alien Crash Site Interview on life detection
  • "Towards a more universal life detection strategy" as submitted to the Planetary and Astrobiology Decadal Survey
  • Arrival
    • Ted Chiang's "The Story of Your Life"
  • Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

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Alien Crash Site returns after that with an interview with SFI Post-Doc Natalie Grefenstette.

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  • Generalized Stoichiometry and Biogeochemistry for Astrobiological Applications
  • Multiple Paths to Multiple Life
    • Watch Chris Kempes and David Krakauer discuss multiple life in episode 2 of "Andromeda Strain and the Meaning of Life"
    • Watch Sara Walker's critique of Multiple Life in episode 4 of "Andromeda Strain and the Meaning of Life"
  • Allometric scaling of production and life-history variation in vascular plants, by West, Enquist, Brown and Charnov.
    • A related lecture by Geoffrey West
  • Atlantis Dispatch 009, in which we contemplate cultural origins...
  • Past related ACS episodes - Heather Graham and Cole Mathis on what Chris calls “Chemical Complexity.”
    • Their co-authored paper, Identifying molecules as biosignatures with assembly theory and mass spectrometry.

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  • Identifying Molecules as Biosignatures with Assembly Theory and Mass Spectrometry.
  • Generalized Stoichiometry and Biogeochemistry for Astrobiological Applications.
  • Time Team
  • Elemental Cycles
  • DNA has Four Bases. Some Viruses Swap in a Fifth
  • Bennu
  • Hayabusa Mission
  • Alien Crash Site Episode 015, with Cole Mathis on Assembly Theory.
  • Determination of Azimuth
  • Atlantis Dispatch 001, in which we contemplate the meaning of “past” life.
  • Viking missions
  • 84001
  • Isua
  • Bob Hazen

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  • Timiebi Aganaba's home page
    • And LinkedIn
    • And Twitter
  • Global Space Treaty
  • Artemis Accords
  • Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs
  • Lindy Elkins-Tanton of Arizona State University's InterPlanetary Project
    • And the Psyche Mission
  • The Court Case: Viasat, Inc (Appellant) Vs. Federal Communications Commission (Appellee) re: Space Exploration Holdings, LLC (Movant-Intervenor).

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  • Ryan’s website
  • Ryan on Twitter
  • The Carrington Event
  • Parker Solar Probe
  • Mars MAVEN
  • Ushering in a New Frontier in Geospace through Data Science
  • Dictionary of Obscure sorrows
  • What is an Individual?
  • Jorge Luis Borges
  • “Talk on Indolence” by the Avett Brothers
  • "Machine Gun" by Jimi Hendrix

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  • Vanessa’s Website
  • InterPlanetary 2018 Festival panel "Intelligent Systems and Cognitive Assistance" featuring Vanessa, David Krakauer, Jonah Nolan, Graham Spencer & Kurt Squire.
  • Dan Sperber
  • Norman Rockwell's painting "The Gossips"
  • Giant dragonfly - Meganeura
  • Alien Crash Site interview with Tamara van der Does
  • Dune witches
  • Buena Vista Social Club - Chan Chan
  • Jil Jilala
  • Nass El Ghiwane

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The paper discussed: "Identifying molecules as biosignatures with assembly theory and mass spectrometry"

  • "Scientists develop new molecular tool to detect alien life" - news article
  • "Chemists design alien life detector" - news article

The essay discussed: ($$ paywall) "Art as a Product of Nature, as a work of Art" by Paul K. Feyerabend

Dragon's Egg, by Robert Forward

Related:

Atlantis's first dispatch on the "Great Phosphine Freakout" of September 2020

Sara Walker and Lee Cronin on the "meaning" of life, as part of 2020 conversation series called "Andromeda Strain and the Meaning of Life."

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  • Natalie Elliot’s Homepage
  • Alexander Pope’s “The Rape of Lock”
  • Shakespeare’s
    • Julius Caesar
    • Hamlet
    • Romeo and Juliet
  • Claudius Ptolemy
  • Nicolaus Copernicus
  • Tycho Brahe
  • Aristophanes’s
    • Clouds
    • Birds
  • Fermilab Bison
  • Antikythera Mechanism
  • “Origin Story” for Aeon
  • And two recently published papers on universal life detection that we are WAY TOO EXCITED about:
    • Generalized Stoichiometry and Biogeochemistry for Astrobiological Applications
    • Identifying molecules as biosignatures with assembly theory and mass spectrometry

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InterPlanetary 2018 - Planetary Policy, Law & Regulation Panel

Earth Juijitsu

Environment Now

Ecuador’s recognition of Pachamama

Slavoj Zizek

Santa Monica’s sustainability ordinance, protecting the aquifers

Brown v. Board of Education

US Space Act (1958)

Outer Space Treaty (1966)

Moon Agreement (1979)

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Honeybee Capital

Ever-Widening Circles, by Rilke

Zero sum game

Tom Seeley's work on honeybees

Suzanne Simard's work about tree communication networks

Geoffrey West's lecture on Scaling

I Dream a Highway - Gillian Welch

Ode to Joy - Beethoven

Final scene of Stalker

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Van’s homepage

UCLA-led team of scientists discovers why we need sleep

Watch Van on the “Time Design” Panel from #IPFest2018

Ted Chiang’s Seventy-Two Letters

Liu Cixin’s Three Body Problem

You’re So Cool” by Hans Zimmer

“Don’t Look Back in Anger” by Oasis

“Welcome to the Jungle” and “You Could Be Mine”

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Michael’s webpage

Lauren Ancel Meyers

Carl Bergstrom’s Calling Bullshit

Michael’s work on the Neandertal genome

Information’s impact on fitness

Michael, Sara Walker, Chris Kempes and Lee Cronin, herein the #OriginsOfLifeLeague

Life Alive

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Philosophy of Werner Herzog

Adam and Eve

Kant’s aesthetics

Oedipus Rex

Pandora Myth

Beatrice Han-Pile

Diego Velázquéz’s Las Meninas

Rothko’s Tate Collection

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Tamara’s Website, Google Scholar Page & Twitter
• InterPlanetary Festival Website
• Alien Crash Site Podcast

• In 72 hours of sci-fi, postdocs transmit parental model of alien civilization [video]
• Greetings from a Triparental Planet 72 Hours of Science Pre-Printby Gizem Bacaksizlar, Stefani Crabtree, Joshua Garland, Natalie Grefenstette, Albert Kao, David Kinney, Artemy Kolchinsky, Tyler Marghetis, Michael Price, Maria Riolo, Hajime Shimao, Ashley Teufel, Tamara van der Does, and Vicky Chuqiao Yang
• Scale and information-processing thresholds in Holocene social evolution by Jaeweon Shin, Michael Holton Price, David H. Wolpert, Hajime Shimao, Brendan Tracey, and Timothy A. Kohler
• SFI’s VP for Science Jennifer Dunne Remembers Ecologist Bob May

• Complexity Podcast

• IPFest 2019 Worldbuilding Panel with Rebecca Roanhorse, Ty Franck, Daniel Abraham, Michael Drout, and Cris Moore
• Anathem by former SFI Miller Scholar Neal Stephenson
• Dark Integers by Greg Egan
Aliens comic series by Dark Horse

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Theme song, "Stalker" by Tortilla

The “Living in Space” InterPlanetary Panel from IP Fest 2018

ChemCam and SuperCam

Recap of Nina’s time in Antartica

Bradbury Museum panel of LANL scientists discussing Today’s Perseverance landing

Joerael Numina’s art (The image of the Curiosity Rover behind me is one example of his work)

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Sasha’s website and work

Sasha on “Visualization and Designing the Impossible” IPFest 2018 Panel

Sasha at IPFest, on open-source space data

Jet Propulsion Lab’s page of downloadable 360 and VR/AR videos

Chicago’s Field Museum of Natural History

VITAL Ventilators

Virtual tour of the Jet Propulsion Lab

Kin Dza Dza

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Exploration Institute

Ocean Planet

What Armin on the 2018 InterPlanetary Festival Panel “The End of the World?” with Annalee Newitz, and Lauren Oliver.

Read Armin’s introduction to that ^ panel in IP Transmissions Volume One: Genesis

Read up on Star Trek, if you’re unfamiliar for some reason...

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Visit David’s new website

Learn more about SFI’s recent Complexity and Structure of Music Workshop.

Watch the 2018 InterPlanetary Festival Panel, Autonomous Ecosystems, where David (and past guest, Kate Greene) contributes to the conversation.

Listen to some of David’s Sonic work.

Watch David’s Hypnomancy performance from the 2020 Currents New Media festival.

Aucourant Records.

Ardy SixKiller Clarke.

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2019 InterPlanetary Festival’s “Game Design Panel,” moderated by Frank

InterPlanetary Transmissions. Volume 2: Stardust, featuring an introduction to the Game Design panel by Frank

NYU Game Center

Claude Shannon’s “A Mathematical Theory of Communication.”

Alien Crash Site interviews with GPT-3

Frank’s Universal Paperclips

David Chapman

Marcel Duchamp

Caitlin’s favorite Jonathan Richman performance

Monday begins on Saturdayby Arkady and Boris Strugatsky

Hard to Be a God also by the Strugatsky Brothers

Stanislaw Lem

Philip K. Dick

J.G. Ballard

SCP Wiki

Antimemetics

qntm

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Kate’s new book of essays, Once Upon a Time I Lived on Mars.

The 2017 InterPlanetary Panel, which launched the project.

The 2018 InterPlanetary Festival Panel, “Autonomous Ecosystems.”

All About Eggs, published by Lucky Peach.

“Ova Easy” egg crystals, for your solo-Sunday omelettes.

“The Aleph” by Jorge Borges

Rocannon’s World by Ursula Le Guin.

“Hey, Elon Musk, What about Toilet Paper on Mars?” by Eric Mack.

New Yorker article, “Roommates on Mars,” which outlines the “Nutella Incident.”

Endurance.

“King Arthur Flour’s Baking Hotline Has Never Been Busier — and the Questions Are Getting Personal.”

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Ashton’s 2018 InterPlanetary Festival Appearance, “Living in Space”

Ashton’s 2019 InterPlanetary Festival Appearance, “Zen and the Art of Space Exploration”

Sam Harris podcast interview with David Krakauer

General Systems Theory - Ludwig von Bertalanffy

Limits to Human Performance Research at the Santa Fe Institute

Ursula LeGuin’s Rocannon’s World(pdf)

Orson Scott Card’s Ender’s Game

Arrival (trailer)

Contact (trailer)

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SFI President David Krakauer joins Caitlin McShea to consider the producers of an object, the receivers of said object, and the qualities of the object itself, in this first episode of Alien Crash Site...a sci-fi technology pod that pushes people out of their comfort Zones, and into Alien Crash Site Zones, in pursuit of a truly transformative object.